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crimson wigeon
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Try for example the systray popups

wheat plume
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You can move those??

crimson wigeon
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Until recently even the settings list on the side in system settings was scrollable like this

wheat plume
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Click and drag to scroll??

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Wtf

crimson wigeon
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Yeah it's really messed up to treat the mouse like a finger

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(and then when you really want to scroll things with your finger it won't work, excellent stuff!)

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But also yes if you really want to move those plasmoid popups you can, just use whatever shortcut you have for moving windows and drag them around the screen, hell even resize them!

wheat plume
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Firefox still doesn't support touch screen -.-

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Wtf Mozilla

crimson wigeon
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It does

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You might just have to explicitly enable xinput2 support still

wheat plume
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-.- how do?

crimson wigeon
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Set the env var MOZ_USE_XINPUT2 to 1

wheat plume
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What file?

crimson wigeon
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Any

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(that provides that env var to firefox that is)

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I appear to have put it in ~/.profile export MOZ_USE_XINPUT2=1

karmic grail
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@latent mural what mic do you have right now? I remember you said you had one from eBay or something that was pretty good

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I'm looking to buy a new headset/headphone

ashen spindle
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quality? get sennheiser

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but comes at a price

karmic grail
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I need a mic as well

ashen spindle
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if you get a wired one you could get a clip on mic, or one on to put on the desk, usually cheaper + better

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also personally I'm a totally shill for wireless headphones rooGasm1

timid chasm
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I like steel series' Arctic 7 but I refused to use wired

karmic grail
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I wanna go wireless since my current wire is ruined

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But good wireless ones are $$$

ashen spindle
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aye

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but its like getting a wooting over a membrane kb

karmic grail
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true

earnest osprey
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I got my g703 for $50 because preorder op

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I mean it was technically already available, but the charging may was on preorder. Got the set for $150

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No wire, no forgetting to charge

plush summit
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help

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This confinued when I exited the game

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And had this artifacting over other applications like discord that use the GPU to render

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So is my GPU dead or at least dying?

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Could it have been my CPU thermal paste application?

ashen spindle
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check cpu temps if you think its cpu

plush summit
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GPU temps around 75

ashen spindle
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what cpu

plush summit
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Almost always at 75 when in use

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6600 k

ashen spindle
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wait do you mean cpu or gpu thermal paste

plush summit
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Could it be either at my thermal paste application coming in contact with the CPU and the pins is this a GPU issue

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Because I was a little uneasy with my first thermal paste application

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Two completely unrelated things

ashen spindle
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what

plush summit
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My graphics card report 75 degrees Celsius

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Is the peoblen my graphics card

ashen spindle
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okay but you said you applied thermal paste to the cpu

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so why are you telling me gpu temps

plush summit
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Or could it be the fact that some thermal paste got on the bottom of the CPU and made contact between the CPU and the pins

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I would I have noticed that much earlier

ashen spindle
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just tell me the cpu temps Reeeeee

plush summit
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I'm not monitoring CPU temps

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Thoigh I'm guessing 50 60 Celsius

ashen spindle
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hwinfo64

plush summit
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I had to restart my machine

ashen spindle
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sigh

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why do you bring all this up when you then dont want to talk about your cpu vvWhat

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75c is fine, asuming its an nvidia card or amd thats not years old

plush summit
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Amd

ashen spindle
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bc idk limits for 3+ generations old cards

plush summit
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Rx580

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cpu right now is

ashen spindle
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yea thats fine then for that gpu

plush summit
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30

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30-31

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c

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normal

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excuse me

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30-35c

ashen spindle
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okay then look at cpu temps after you play for a bit, if they stay below 90 no worry

plush summit
ashen spindle
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if its in the 90s might be something but should still be fine

plush summit
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50c

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on cpu

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using 7z bench

ashen spindle
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yeah no issue there then

plush summit
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so is my gpu dieing?

ashen spindle
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have you oc'd gpu chip or memory?

plush summit
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no

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no

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no

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fans yes

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but with in operational limits

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so no oc

ashen spindle
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wait your overclocked fans what lmao

plush summit
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wll

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no

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no oc XD

ashen spindle
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you mean you increased fancurve lmao

plush summit
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just upped fanspeed

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yeah

ashen spindle
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play again see if it still happens

plush summit
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could it be my psu?

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no

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this is like

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the third occurance of something like this happening

ashen spindle
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could be

plush summit
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few and far between

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happened a few times at college

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a long time ago

ashen spindle
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could try undervolting the gpu, its usually good for amd cards like that anyway

plush summit
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it cant be that i have a 550 watt psu though

ashen spindle
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try reseating the gpu, maybe not pushed in right

plush summit
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so...should i rma my gpu or buy another one

ashen spindle
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depends on your budget

plush summit
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wish i had money to throw arround

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i hgave a little

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but not much

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enough for a new one

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not that i want to buy one

ashen spindle
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then look at rma first

plush summit
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i have to pay for shipping

ashen spindle
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ah right stupid na laws

plush summit
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both to and from

ashen spindle
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forgot about that

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uh, could always try to sell it then use that as + money on your budget for something better

plush summit
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sell it for like 150

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so dont bother to rma?

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because its gonna be like...50 bucks total

ashen spindle
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I mean we dont even know if it is the gpu lmao

plush summit
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weell how to i test for it

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i have multiple instances where ive had this issue

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just not this severely

ashen spindle
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could try putting some stress with like furmark on your gpu

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see if that causes it

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then undervolt/lower clocks on gpu memory and/or gpu chip see if it stops then

plush summit
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kinda useless if i have to lose performance on something that should operate at its spec

ashen spindle
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undervolting is not lowering performance

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and if you get rid of it by lowering mem/chip clock we at least know its the gpu and not psu or something else

plush summit
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lower clocks on gpu memory and/or gpu chip

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not undervolting

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this just randomely hapened while playing

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and sometimes randomly hapens while using chrome

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guess ill try reseating

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It's screwed in

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There's no way it's moved

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What about GPU sag

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Is it possible that the card is being destroyed?

ashen spindle
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the screw is just in the front at the case right?

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so theres still plenty space at the pcie connector to not be properly seated

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gpu sag would also either make temps worse bc it removes contact to the cooler or pull it out of the gpu socket

plush summit
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It looks fine for me and I don't see any problems

ashen spindle
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.. you literally cant even see if this is the issue

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if you could see it be so far out of the pcie slot you would not get a signal at all

plush summit
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So the only way to troubleshoot this is to literally get a screwdriver take it out and put it back in

ashen spindle
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could also first try the stresstest

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since I think its more likely to be psu

plush summit
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But if the PSU dies then the entire system dies

ashen spindle
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what

plush summit
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That's usually what happens

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If the PSU dies it usually takes the entire system with it

ashen spindle
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if you have a psu that when it dies takes the entire system with it I'd have that psu ripped out of the system the day before I buy it

plush summit
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I have an EVGA gold fully modular I don't know the model name

ashen spindle
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dunno how evga psus are but I'd imagine they are fine

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furmark is also just a gpu stress not a system test, so you dont go to stupid power ammounts anyway

plush summit
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Oh hey I just noticed this card has a duel bios

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Either way I should probably have a fire extinguisher ready right?

ashen spindle
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what

plush summit
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Well if there is some sort of caytostrafic traffic failure with the card

ashen spindle
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your gpu temp is 75c, not 1030

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yeah sure but thats like saying you need a fire extinguisher when you power on any pc

plush summit
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So what would I be looking for when i hit it with furmark

ashen spindle
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well, look if it causes the same issues

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and take a look at temps I guess

plush summit
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So do I just use a stress test or do I use one of the presets

ashen spindle
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uh whatever sounds like an option for stress/stability testing it

plush summit
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ppl say that furmark is used for "burning in"

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and also say to go throug heaven benchmark instead

ashen spindle
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look man I can either spend my time trying to help you fix it or you can use google and do what you want

plush summit
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well

earnest osprey
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furmark is designed to get the gpu really hot, it may find limits that nothing you actually do will hit

plush summit
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i dont know how to use furmark to the point where it will destroy my hardware

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which scares me because again

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i dont have money to throw arround

ashen spindle
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I really dont know how it would do taht unless you hit temps above limit and run it for hours without stopping it

earnest osprey
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furmark has a habit of asking the gpu to draw too much current

plush summit
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so use heaven then?

ashen spindle
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I said monitor temps since if you stay at 75 nothing breaks

earnest osprey
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furmark for thermal testing, heaven for a long time is an okay stability test

plush summit
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so i want heaven then?

ashen spindle
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if its not hit by gaming every time you most likely wont see it if you run a gaming benchmark...

earnest osprey
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Yeah

plush summit
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sometimes happen while IDLE

earnest osprey
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its either that unstable or something else is wrong.

ashen spindle
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... yes so its not something consistent so you want soemthing that stresses it more than usual to find it faster

earnest osprey
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I was plagued with gpu related crashes until I noticed my gpu wasn't fully seated in the pci slot :/

plush summit
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i can see that mine is

ashen spindle
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no you cant see that

plush summit
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and the sag is negligable

ashen spindle
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stop saying you can see it

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you literally cant look into the connector itself with a pair of eyes

earnest osprey
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You can see if the tab is up or down though

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I didn't find it until I went to remove the gpu to change the computer case haha

plush summit
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it clicked into place when i seated it

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thasts how it should be

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no?

ashen spindle
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yes, it could still be just a tiny bit of at a connector

zenith sonnet
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@plush summit Check the graphics memory too
Temps and stuff

plush summit
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i cant get heaven to run

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i can only open the bat file

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i cant execte it

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theres no option to even execute it

zenith sonnet
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It's more likely that, a blown cap somewhere, or the PSU

plush summit
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blown cap?

zenith sonnet
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Doubt it's the GPU if you didn't pump a lot of voltage through it

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Capacitor

plush summit
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oh

zenith sonnet
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Or soldering weakening

plush summit
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thats believable

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with how intermitant it is

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though just tapping it should be enough to cause atrifacting

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right?

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right

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turned burn in off in furmark settings

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just gotta turn up case fans and then hit it

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it should be 100% fine though

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this issue is sooo intermittant

ashen spindle
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what

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did you set it to 15 seconds or what

plush summit
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benchmark

ashen spindle
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stresstest

plush summit
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so

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minecraft with shaders

ashen spindle
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no you use furmark to stresstest it for idk 15 minutes or so at least

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a one minute benchmark is not a stresstest lmao

zenith sonnet
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It's most likely the graphics card or PSU, but almost certainly not the GPU itself

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Something else on the PCB, memory, solder, VRM...

ashen spindle
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ya my guess was vram but kinda unlikely on default, or psu

zenith sonnet
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Baking would be an option?

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Trying a different PSU would, too

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Amyway, it seems that because of something, vram is corrupting

plush summit
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sooo

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i dont exactly have a bunch of spare parts lieing arroud

ashen spindle
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which is why I told you reset gpu and stresstest to check that one first without needing anything else

plush summit
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minecraft is hitting it pretty hard

ashen spindle
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aight I'm out, gl finding the issue

plush summit
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i just dont understand kitting it with a test that is beyond real world things

ashen spindle
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because on real world settings its obviously not constantly happening

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so you exaggerate one load at a time and see if one of them causes the issue

plush summit
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80 degrese with furrmark

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nothing out of the ordinary

ashen spindle
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let it run for like 15 minutes at first, just look at temps on your gpu, below 90 is no issue at all

plush summit
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ive been running it allong sime mc

ashen spindle
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does hwinfo find a readout point for memory temps?

plush summit
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im using wattman

ashen spindle
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dont use wattman

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for sensor reading

plush summit
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speedfan then?

ashen spindle
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hwinfo 64

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but seeing as its still not occuring, its most likely something else, my bet is on the psu

plush summit
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i dont see anything

ashen spindle
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could still try undervolting the card, since that will only help anyway

plush summit
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77 on the card

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still running fr mark

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its not going anywhere

ashen spindle
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getting vram temps would be nice but hard to do usually

plush summit
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thats all i got

ashen spindle
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hm looks all fine

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could also try cpu stresstest/ memchek/diskcheck see if its anyhting else

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since you cant really test psu issues via software

plush summit
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nothing

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no memory errors

ashen spindle
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well yeah if there were memory issues that are causing it, you'd probably see it lol

plush summit
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i went on about this last time

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my screen was flickering as iff it had a low refreshrate

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the last few times it happened

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nothing nearly as severe

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could it be a memory leak?

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from an application?

ashen spindle
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memory leak is not a hardware issue and would not do something like this anyway

plush summit
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could it be because of xmp?

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or is this just vram corruption

ashen spindle
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could be vram could be cpu could be gpu could be mainboard could be psu

plush summit
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well

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how tf do i troubleshoot without spare parts

ashen spindle
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by doing the stuff I told you to do and check other part first and if its psu coming to that conclusion by excluding other parts as a cause

plush summit
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so cpu test next?

ashen spindle
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cpu, disk, memory

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then google if you can do any tests to see if its psu bc I never looked at that

plush summit
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i did smart checks recently

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disks are not an issue

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using crystal disk info

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everything is "good"

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nothing

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im isning cpuz stresstest

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Crystaldiskinfo says nothing's damaged

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And memory diagnostic successfully completed

ashen spindle
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well that seems awullfy quick for checking disks and ram, but does look like it might be psu

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or maybe gpu vram in some weird way

plush summit
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ram checnking jut finished

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and as expected

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no issues

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new hdd i bought

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ssd

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old hdd

ashen spindle
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98C on your ssd????

plush summit
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...thats not right

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thats more like it

zenith sonnet
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Imo it's highly unlikely that it's something other than the graphics card or PSU

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Or you'd notice more and different issues

pale sigil
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JESUS CHRIST ITS ABOUT TIME

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NOW I DONT HAVE TO RELY ON BETTER DISCORD

reef patrol
pale sigil
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just a few more improvments and it'll be perfect

crimson wigeon
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multi...window...

pale sigil
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pls

sudden glacier
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Folders yes

pale sigil
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still not as good as the plugin i use

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but its hard to complain

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xD

plush summit
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As I said

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We at better discord I've had these features for a very long time

pale sigil
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well ye

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but still

plush summit
ashen spindle
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Looks fine but idk

warped dove
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New mouse preorder hype for people with sub 20cm hands

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pale sigil
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that is so tiny

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jesus

warped dove
pale sigil
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except its ugly af

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the cm one

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i mean

warped dove
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Which one is ugly?

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It's Cooler Master and who cares, your hand is covering it

pale sigil
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$50 is overpriced af

warped dove
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Haha what

pale sigil
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get a g305

warped dove
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For 35 euroes? practically no difference

still cave
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who would buy that cooler master mouse lol

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except a newborn

pale sigil
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wirless tho

warped dove
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Battery costs tho

pale sigil
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uses barely anything tho

still cave
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it stays charged for weeks with 1 battery

pale sigil
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g203

still cave
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it wont cost that much

pale sigil
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My friend is using the same battery for like 8 months now

warped dove
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literally 1 pack of lithium batteries makes that g305 the same cost anyway cost is interesting

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All these mice are affordable

still cave
pale sigil
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i mean

warped dove
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I'm just concerned that the Cooler Master mouse has a weird shape, high rear hump and gentle front slope..

pale sigil
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buy a recharge

warped dove
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that's like the perfect shape for carpal tunnel syndrome but it is so small that it shouldn't be a problem.. shouldn't be

pale sigil
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btw

still cave
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you'd have to be below the age of 4 to actually fit that cm mouse

pale sigil
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it depends on the battery

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that 250 is with a cheap battery it must be

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cos like it lasts wayyyyy longer

still cave
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just get a g102 instead

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its the same thing but wired

pale sigil
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or 203

still cave
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and 10$ less

warped dove
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Or claw grip or female to fit the CM mouse

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Why are you talking with such certainty about the size of the cooler master mouse when the dimension aren't even listed? I know that the mouse was at CES

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"Inspired by some unconventional modern design elements and feedback from the youths of today" omg it really is a fortnite mouse for preschoolers LOL

still cave
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there you go

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its for preschoolers

pale sigil
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now you cant get it

still cave
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wait

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what if he is a preschooler

pale sigil
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Unless you love Fortnite

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Oh ye

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That's a good point thonk

warped dove
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I only play competitive minecraft

pale sigil
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[X] Doubt

pale sigil
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my computer hates me

fallow bison
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How do you get 70 c at nearly idle on mid to high end water

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Are you running stock clocks and voltages?

pale sigil
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i really dont know and yes

fallow bison
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Jezus

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Do you have the stock cooler still

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Even with that it wouldnt be at 70

pale sigil
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H110i

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V2

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Reeeee

fallow bison
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Try that and see if its a problem with ur coole r

reef patrol
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Pleasant's PC is cursed with "dem hot temps"

fallow bison
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Same here

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But thats cuz of weather

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Rocking the 83 c gpu

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Cpu is still fine

pale sigil
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Think I'm gonna fucking get a hyper 212 and compare

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But I really can't be assed switching out brackets

fallow bison
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Might just unapply my quite hefty OC from my gpu

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You really should try ur stock cooler and see if its around the same temp

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If you have spare thermal paste, that is, ofc

pale sigil
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Don't have a stock cooler

fallow bison
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O

pale sigil
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K versions of Intel don't use stock

fallow bison
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Oh ofc

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Frik

pale sigil
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Even with fucking Intel turbo off

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It's a heavy temp

fallow bison
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Thats so odd

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Do you have the stock static fans on the cooler?

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Radiator

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Instead of normal case fans

pale sigil
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Man I really can't be assed replacing the damn bracket on my motherboard

earnest osprey
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Might want to try checking the thermal paste spread, to make sure that's not hurting things

fallow bison
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just switch to amd

pale sigil
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I I already replaced thermal paste

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Last week

earnest osprey
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Is the pump speed reasonable?

pale sigil
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It's maxed bout

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Put

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Out

fallow bison
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Try checking vcore voltage with cpuid

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Might be bios related?

earnest osprey
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My only thoughts at this point, if not settings related, are either not enough mounting pressure or the curse of the concave ihs

fallow bison
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Or clogged micro channels in the block, but that would be very unlikely

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Would be a faulty aio in that case, they always put anti algi and corrosion in the fluid

earnest osprey
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The only cooler I heard of having that issue, every single unit had that issue

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That enermax aio where the coolant was disolving the gaskets, lmao

ashen spindle
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intel k cpus do come with a cooler, unless you buy a tray version

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maybe not the 9900k but yours definitely is sold with one

earnest osprey
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There are usually box and no box options

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With or without, essentially

pale sigil
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mine

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never came with a stock cooler

ashen spindle
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then you just bought the tray and not the boxed version

pale sigil
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i got a box tho

zenith sonnet
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@earnest osprey Nope

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Boxed intel CPUs don't always come with a cooler

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9700K doesn't have one, either

earnest osprey
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That's not what I'm saying

pale sigil
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9900k has one cos its a bloody i9

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lol

zenith sonnet
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9900K boxed is also without cooler

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i5-9600K, also no cooler

earnest osprey
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Im saying you can probably get one boxed with a cooler or in a smaller box without it, or in the same box without it

zenith sonnet
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The smaller boxes without the coolers are the K SKUs, the larger boxed with a cooler are the non-K variants

pale sigil
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i have to many amazon accounts

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jesus

zenith sonnet
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intel more or less stopped selling boxed coolers, except for low end and locked SKUs

pale sigil
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oh lord

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h100i v2 was discontinued

fallow bison
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Well you now know the reason behind that

pale sigil
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hahaha

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im convinced its the cooler

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because like

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it never gets hot

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but at the same time it could be the sensors

fallow bison
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Likely the cooler

sick creek
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it’s never the sensors

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like almost never

fallow bison
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Sensors nearly never faulty

zenith sonnet
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I had the same issue with my AiO, @pale sigil
At some point it just stopped cooling properly

After taking it apart it seemed to have built up some green-blueish gel around the fins, probably some copper salt

pale sigil
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really hope its not the cpu itself

zenith sonnet
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Well, it's a 7700K

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So...

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Delid this

sick creek
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delidding is so easy, you’d have to be an ape to fuck it up

pale sigil
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i felt robbed

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when i got the 7700k and then 8700k came out

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then again

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compared to prices these days i got it cheap

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230

sick creek
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if intel cpus get cheap, you know a new one is coming out lel

fallow bison
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I got my 2600 for 115 lmfao

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That legit a steal

pale sigil
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i was an idiot

ashen spindle
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*am vvSmug

fallow bison
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It was priced 168 originally

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But callum do you really need more power than a 7700k

pale sigil
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more cores would have been nice

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but no

fallow bison
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I had the same thing

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But tbf i really only rarely top my cpu

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Its almost always in all games at 35 - 55 %

pale sigil
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Ok so i rang Amazon

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im going to buy a hyper 212... if its a cooler issue i have a label to return my h100i v2

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if its not a cooler issue

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then well

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F

fallow bison
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So you will get your money back, at least partially if its a cooler problem?

pale sigil
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i mean i can still return the hyper 212 technically

#

lol

#

bit shady

#

but meh

zenith sonnet
#

You'll never hit 100% CPU usage in any real world scenario

pale sigil
#

Lol

#

I hit 100%

fallow bison
#

I absolutely dont for my usage

#

I top it at 65%lmao

pale sigil
#

especially when playing Minecraft modded

#

xD

zenith sonnet
#

The issue is, though, that nothing tells you if you hit 100% on a single thread

pale sigil
#

playing gta uses like 85%

#

oh

#

i get you

#

well

#

i can confirm

#

mc does

fallow bison
#

But do you play at higher than 1080 callum?

pale sigil
#

i would love to

#

but still waiting for the right monitor

#

and im poor

earnest osprey
#

What if your real world scenario is rendering, lol

fallow bison
#

I see, id love to too, but my gpu is too meh

#

For 1080 its perfect

zenith sonnet
#

There is no monitoring tool I'm aware of that tells you if you hit 100% CPU load on a thread

pale sigil
#

@zenith sonnet wrong tag

earnest osprey
#

Lol

fallow bison
#

Oof 7700 only has 4 cores

pale sigil
#

yes

#

hence why i felt robbed

fallow bison
#

I getchu now

earnest osprey
#

Task manager shows you per thread usage, but not with values

fallow bison
#

Thought it was 6 or so

#

Just use hwmonitor

pale sigil
#

this is not task manager

#

this is linux htop

zenith sonnet
#

@pale sigil Get a 3600
6C/12T
All of which are faster than your 4

pale sigil
#

i cant afford it

#

sadly

#

not only is it a new cpu but its also a new mobo

#

its just to much

fallow bison
#

Would i be able to run a 3600 on a b450 from gigabyte?

zenith sonnet
#

Oh...
Well, be happy you got such a nice CPU, then! 😄

warped dove
#

Try using less paste, you want a little as possible as theoretically the best situation is a perfectly flat cool in contact with a perfectly flat heatspreader

zenith sonnet
#

@fallow bison Yes, no issues

warped dove
#

Also there might be an airbubble in your AIO

sick creek
#

b450 just means you wont have pci-e 4.0

fallow bison
#

I might look into it for college

warped dove
#

^undetectable

thick elk
#

I know this may be stupid but put the cpu on some load and try to feel if the radiator gets warm?
If

fallow bison
#

Need a lil more power

sick creek
#

literally thats all the new mobos give you

pale sigil
#

as i said

zenith sonnet
#

@fallow bison Just make sure you update BIOS first

pale sigil
#

the raidiator is alsways cool

fallow bison
#

Absolutely :P

pale sigil
#

like chilling cool

#

My h80i died also btw

ashen spindle
#

just get a msi b450 max board, those are for ryzen 3rd gen

pale sigil
#

🤷

fallow bison
#

Very odd callum

ashen spindle
#

so no need to update bios on them

fallow bison
#

Nah i got a good one

#

Good enough

pale sigil
#

i dont want a cheap board

#

tbh

sick creek
#

my corsair h100i (v1?) still works but the performance is average, p sure i would do better on air

pale sigil
#

thing is

#

my h100i v2 is less than a year old....

zenith sonnet
#

There are great B450 boards for about 100€

pale sigil
#

my h80 was many years old

fallow bison
#

I got a cheapo aio but it works really well, think its a CM 240 rgb blah blah about 70 euros

pale sigil
#

Again, even if i sell this mobo and cpu

#

there's going to be a big cost

ashen spindle
#

gaming plus or tomahawk are like 70-80 and work fine for 6 and 8 cores ryzen 3000

sick creek
#

oh wait, i dont use the corsair anymore

#

i have a AIO 360mm rad, thermaltake

pale sigil
#

the only way i could go with ams

#

amd

#

is if i use a wrath cooler

#

and use the refund

zenith sonnet
#

@pale sigil 280€ for board and CPU, and you can sell that shitty AiO and get the same perf with the boxed cooler

pale sigil
#

for the mobo and cpu

warped dove
#

Since crossfire and SLI are basically dead, I would just make an mini ITX build, and only one board is that format right now: the gigabyte auros x570 Wi-Fi . Most small parts are cheaper apart from SFX power supplies. Cooler is all sufficient these days.

ashen spindle
#

I mean for a 3600 the stock wrath cooler is good enough

pale sigil
#

Mate

#

280 is a lot

earnest osprey
#

Wrath cooler

zenith sonnet
#

If you don't have poor case ventilation, in that case no cooler keeps it cool

pale sigil
#

I wont be able to sell the 7700k and MSI Z270M for much

earnest osprey
#

cool your wrath today with the new Wrath Cooler!!!

sick creek
#

lol

#

i noticed that too but i tried to let it go undetected

zenith sonnet
#

@pale sigil Open a fundraiser

warped dove
#

plz dont

sick creek
#

LMAO

pale sigil
#

LMAO

sick creek
#

homeboi has like 20G’s saved up

fallow bison
#

Callum ur toxic

warped dove
#

that's weirdly easy to read

pale sigil
#

pLeZ hElP mE aFfOrD a NeW pC fOr MiNeCrAfT

fallow bison
#

I turned my laptop upside down to read that

pale sigil
#

thats the correct format

#

oops

fallow bison
#

Thanks

zenith sonnet
#

Just do some odd jobs for a weekend or two

#

Don't be a pussy

pale sigil
#

odd jobs

#

oh baby

#

@fallow bison

#

interested?

fallow bison
#

Yes

sick creek
#

31c ... iTs ToO hOt hELp mE

fallow bison
#

Ill pay you 5 crisps and a chip

sick creek
#

😉

pale sigil
#

im stillw aiting on money

#

for my vr headset i sold to my friend

#

/s

sick creek
#

wait wait

#

you “sold” your friend the oculus

pale sigil
#

He has never let me down and i said he can pay me as much as he can each week.

sick creek
#

and did not get payment

#

lol

pale sigil
#

Like legit, this guy has lent me hundreds and i have him

#

never once let me down

#

in 13 years

sick creek
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

pale sigil
#

im getting money

#

just slowly

#

way to slow

warped dove
#

He's too buys playing computer games to work and earn money to pay you

sick creek
#

tell him to stop getting pints at the pub

#

he’ll be able to pay real quick

pale sigil
#
  1. He doesn't drink. 2. He has been struggling to get a job (hence me offering to let him pay it off with job seekers). 3. He plays games 24/7 aye
fallow bison
#

Sounds like me

sick creek
#

plays games 24/7

#

struggles to get job

fallow bison
#

Except for 1,2&3

sick creek
#

HMMMMMM

pale sigil
#

Well

sick creek
#

yes i know not literally 24/7

#

but like, if you have time to play games while you are job searching, it usually means you aint trying hard enough

pale sigil
#

He would love a job, he made a gamble on his last workplace and it went pear shape.

#

He desperately wants a job and like, the only way he can deal with the shit is playing games.

sick creek
#

i guess

pale sigil
#

If he isn't occupied he gets fucked up big time.

#

Doesn't help he has Asperger's and some other stuff tho

#

So think of it this way

sick creek
#

i feel like you youngins need more perspective

pale sigil
#

when he is stressed HE IS STRESSED

#

YOUNGLINGS

#

HOW OLD DO YOU THINK I AM

sick creek
#

yeah heard it all before

#

around 25

pale sigil
#

im 32

#

Nah im kidding, im not, im 23

sick creek
#

thats what i thought

#

dont they cut you off with going to school in the UK after a certain age

#

like basically... “you’ve tried enough, it isn’t working out, GLHF”

pale sigil
#

Well, i went to uni and still technically a student.

#

I worked a year before uni 😄 then repeated a year

#

So im soooo behind everyone when it comes to "adult" life

#

xD

sick creek
#

goddamn this plane is cold

#

also speaking of planes

#

aircanada

#

their power outlets dont support 130w laptop chargers wth?

reef patrol
#

I'm 32
Nah kidding

laughs nervously

sick creek
#

haha

#

well, I am 32 and it’s whatever

zenith sonnet
#

Glad I'm not 32

sick creek
#

why

zenith sonnet
#

Ya'll old fucks 😏

pale sigil
#

How tf

#

are intel getting away with selling 7700k for £345.28

#

disgusting

#

also the price difference here between the 3600 and 3600x is 18 quid

#

lol

reef patrol
#

Isn't it just retailers upping prices on old stock?

pale sigil
#

possibly

#

most likely

ashen spindle
#

intel has not been lowering prices on old stock since at least sandy bridge

#

so any lower prices are retailers trying to get rid of it

zenith sonnet
pale sigil
#

if it s my cooler

#

though

#

i probably wont get a new cpu

#

cos like

#

no point

crimson wigeon
#

Meanwhile the temps on my CPU are still mostly the same since I last repasted it however many years ago.. thonk

thick elk
#

I would say the chances of it being your cooler are pretty high.

sick creek
#

then you did a good job before or a terrible job now? lol

#

or are you saying the last time you re-pasted was years ago

#

cant tell

crimson wigeon
#

Years ago was the last time

#

Can't remember how many but many

sick creek
#

ah

crimson wigeon
#

I don't really buy that whole thing of having to repaste every few years, sounds like a plot to get people to buy more thermal paste to me!

sick creek
#

depends on the paste

crimson wigeon
#

I'm just using whatever Noctua stuff came with this Noctua cooler

sick creek
#

noctua is good paste

#

so that’s likely why

#

their paste is consistently in like the top 5 TIMs I think?

#

i tend to use the thermal grizzly pastes/metals now

sudden glacier
#

I made a junk folder for emote servers and ones I don't even remember what the reason was for joining

#

they're all muted in there

#

then I have a primary, secondary, and communities folder

#

and open which ones I want to pay attention to on that hour of the day

#

if there's a dot on the folder that's collapsed, I just ignore it

#

also some other folders like Game servers, Streamers, etc..

zenith sonnet
#

Discord needs a 'jump to first new message'

earnest osprey
#

It exists

#

It's called esc

#

Or click on the bar that says "unread messages"

#

Or the "jump to present" popup on mobile

#

Wait, that would be last new message

#

Hmm.

fallow bison
#

First as in first in the convo

#

instead of last message

#

Wont it jump to the bottom

#

instead of first unread

#

Oh shi

wheat plume
pale sigil
#

Snapchat in 2019 lul

wheat plume
#

Xd

#

I need it for two people who refuse to use discord

solar hinge
#

Lana is sending nudes around

earnest osprey
#

Uh

crimson wigeon
#

Oh

wheat plume
#

You know I won't do that

still cave
#

oh really

wheat plume
#

I wish I didn't have this body

earnest osprey
#

Refusal to upgrade to windows 10 doesn't mean the rift is bricked, lol. But that does suck

fallow bison
#

Lmao windows seven in 2019

wheat plume
#

LMAO windows in 2019

fallow bison
#

atleast it doesnt take 3weeks to setup my apps

#

Gave up on linux cuz of its awful app support and thus performance, too

crimson wigeon
#

Well yeah trying to use modern hardware on a legacy OS isn't really going to provide the optimal experience

pale sigil
#

Lol legit oculus doesn't work with windows 7 right now

#

People with windows 7 have an expensive brick

#

@earnest osprey

ashen spindle
#

I mean the comment in your screenshot even mentions they said it for months

pale sigil
#

You literally can't use the oculus on Windows 7 right now

#

Nah the last 48 hours an update stopped the oculus working with w7

#

Just read more into it

earnest osprey
#

It's not a brick if you just upgrade to windows 10

pale sigil
#

Though response says it wasn't intentional

chrome estuary
pale sigil
#

It's more a term saying its useless if you're on Windows 7

ashen spindle
#

CLAPPERS nice order

pale sigil
#

@chrome estuary buy me one

chrome estuary
#

no

earnest osprey
#

I see it more as a reason to give in and just upgrade windows already, lol

chrome estuary
#

i'll brag show it off when I get it

#

probably next week

pale sigil
#

Or just buy me one stevedab

chrome estuary
#

i would if i were rich

pale sigil
#

I'll trade you 12 German wooting ones for one

chrome estuary
#

I don't have the use for one wooting one

pale sigil
#

Pft

chrome estuary
#

they still haven't shipped the damn thing out even though it said "immediate shipping" and I ordered it last night

pale sigil
#

XD

#

Have fun waiting

chrome estuary
#

I'm one of those people that can't just wait

#

i neeeeed it

#

NEEED

glad scroll
#

I see none has mentioned star hopper yet OhISee

pale sigil
glad scroll
#

Oh well, understandable, yesterday's launch was the first in a series of safety tests

ashen spindle
#

I read it worked and that's about it

glad scroll
#

It reached a height of 20m before landing, and at that height the fumes from the engine covers anything you can see.

#

They aborted once though, but seems they could refuel and restart the test

#

The next hop will be 200m so that will be more exciting hype

zenith sonnet
#

@digital cliff Alright, it exists, but it's broken

#

On the phone, it only jumps 50 messages back or something

#

I've had issues with it, at least

#

Anyway
I'm slowly starting to understand how Ryzen works

solar hinge
#

How does it work @zenith sonnet ?

crimson wigeon
#

Magic obviously

solar hinge
#

By the tears of aborted Intel cpus

fickle ore
#

please click radeon anti-lag support enxtended for products/API's + GPU integer scaling

wheat plume
pale sigil
#

Hahahaha

wheat plume
#

Xd

#

Go ahead ahaha

#

You need a mi account

pale sigil
#

Boi

#

I still get anxious when removing a cpu

warped dove
#

Why take it out? Never move my CPUs once they're in

pale sigil
#

@warped dove wanted to check if anything was bent to see if it was the cause

sick creek
fallow bison
#

Looks like an access point

sick creek
#

Yep

fallow bison
#

Good job

sick creek
#

Lol

#

Only had to go about 8 feet but there was a lot of shit in the way in the ceiling

#

Had to go past hvac among other things

pale sigil
#

Which it's not

#

Can I access your porn stash

sick creek
#

Wut lul

pale sigil
#

Or is it protected behind a second password 🤔

sick creek
#

Who keeps hard copies anymore

pale sigil
#

Furries

sick creek
#

Well, i’m not one so lel

pale sigil
#

I've seen some shit when backing up my friends computer (showed me what he wanted backing up before I put his new ssd in)

sick creek
#

lol

#

I’ve definitely stumbled upon peoples porn stashes while fixing their computers

#

But that was over 10 yrs ago

#

I dont work as the family&friends free IT person anymore

reef patrol
#

Hard storage is still to be preferred in an industry where content comes and goes I guess.

pale sigil
#

Speaking of porn

#

Don't you think it's funny how discord makes it a no no yet you have servers like hentai servers with thousands of members in them

#

And nothing happens

sick creek
#

Yeah porn servers of any kind is something i aint touching with a 10ft pole

#

Thats just asking to be on a “list”

pale sigil
#

Thought of this

#

Just waiting for my cooler to arrive

#

Like

#

Why amazon

#

You used to deliver at 3pm

#

Now you deliver super late

#

Make them workers suffer more

wheat plume
#

With it's design and icons

crimson wigeon
#

But it's also very early in development

wheat plume
#

Yeh

#

I know

#

That's why the icons might be messed up

fallow bison
#

Its an insider preview

#

Thats why it may look / handle inconsistent

crimson wigeon
#

Not just that, but an accidentally leaked build

fallow bison
#

Lmao

#

How does that even happen

crimson wigeon
#

The usual explanation "Windows Insiders may be wondering what caused this scenario. We actively test and validate each of our preview builds internally before sharing them externally, however a configuration change allowed this build to release to multiple rings simultaneously, including external rings. We have made the necessary remediation in our Flighting service and have implemented additional changes to help prevent from this happening in the future. We apologize for any troubles this may have caused for affected Insiders and appreciate your assistance in bringing this to our attention so we could make the necessary changes as quickly as possible."

fallow bison
#

Oh ofc the rings

#

Totally forgot

pale sigil
#

Hyper 212 gets way to tight for my comfort

fallow bison
#

It'll be fine

pale sigil
#

My temps in the bios are 40c

#

But bare in mind my room is extremely hot rn

#

And it only has one fan

zenith sonnet
#

That's normal

pale sigil
#

im still getting kinda big spikes

#

from 30-50

#

why does different software show different temps

zenith sonnet
#

Don't use speedfan or speccy
Both known to show wrong values

#

CPU-Z is good

pale sigil
#

I couldn't find info about temps on cpu z

fallow bison
#

Hwmonitor

pale sigil
#

which is open

fallow bison
#

Follow that one

pale sigil
#

that one shows huge spikes still

fallow bison
#

It happens, think its normal

#

I have it too

#

Might be cuz of water, dont know

zenith sonnet
#

Might be the paste

fallow bison
#

Hmm

#

Could be

pale sigil
#

Mate

zenith sonnet
#

Heat just doesn't get out quickly on those chips

pale sigil
#

i literally just applied it

zenith sonnet
#

So shorts bursts cause temp spikes

#

Not your application

#

The one under the IHS

#

Delid this

pale sigil
#

ah

#

well

#

was really hoping it wouldn't come to this

#

also

#

the fan is very slow

#

i remember being able to control it

#

lol

#

or its just super quiet

fallow bison
#

Fanspeeds don't influence spikes

pale sigil
#

ik

#

well either way

fallow bison
#

Oh, maybe look at ur mobo software

pale sigil
#

there is an improvement

#

so far

#

temped to just fuckin sell

#

its still under warrenty

#

i think

feral jolt
#

I like hwinfo64

pale sigil
#

much much much much more stable

ashen spindle
#

ya hwinfo 64 is very realiable

pale sigil
#

trying it with destiny 2 now

#

a majority was deffo the cooler

#

because my temps are very stable now

#

between 40-55

#

before it was like 70-80

#

Considering its like 29c in my room

#

pretty good

zenith sonnet
#

If you get 40-55 while gaming

#

Then 40-50 spikes are weird

pale sigil
#

All i know is i dont see 80c

#

which means me happy

thick elk
#

Just kind of sad that your aio died so soon.

pale sigil
#

F

pale sigil
#

Wot

warped dove
#

another mouse with hole in it for you boys

#

n girls

#

but this one is much bigger than the babymice

#

and it's ergonomic although not much grooves in the buttons

ashen spindle
#

huh, hows the scrollwheel and price?

warped dove
#

link in description

ashen spindle
#

ah, too many links so I didnt see it lmao

#

60 bucks aight seems good

warped dove
#

I mentioned the Coolermaster MM710 and Glorious Model O-minus earlier incase you missed it

#

Yeah these mouses are totally affordable

ashen spindle
#

yea I know about the other 2

#

well, good to know I'll have options if/when my ultralights fails

safe patrol
#

I looked at the Glorious, but my current mouse is weighted. Getting an ultralight may throw off my balance

timid chasm
#

but where's all the side buttons on that thing?

ashen spindle
#

you use more than back/forth buttons on the side?

warped dove
#

Long ago companies would put those buttons one the left and right side of the mouse not both on one side and I used to love that

#

Then some even started putting 2 on each side or 2 left 1 right

#

Shame that didn't hold

ashen spindle
#

hrm I dont think I could use a button on the right side without losing grip on my mouse

warped dove
#

The Ninox Astrum is 2 and 2 but it's never ****ing coming

timid chasm
#

Somebody talk me out of buying a 10TB shuckable drive for my PC

ashen spindle
#

do it vvSellout

timid chasm
#

IIII think I just might

#

They seem to be Reds or some white labels sooo maybe

timid chasm
#

fuck they went back up to 200 before I bit

halcyon moss
#

The ninox astrum is making me sad :(

fallow bison
#

It looks really interesting

halcyon moss
#

The delay is going up to a year soon, and the updates are bad

#

And my mouse scrollwheel is getting bad

feral jolt
#

Logitech wireless too good

#

I'm really happy with my g305

#

That's all I have to say

zenith sonnet
#

Logitech wireless is so good it beats almost any wired mouse from other brands

feral jolt
#

I think I've got it to where my only latency is from my GPU draw time

#

I really need those black switches to enjoy using tachyon mode though

#

I accidentally press A too much with my fingers resting on wasd

#

Too bad I cant put a blue switch in there for extra resistance

zenith sonnet
#

I've got plenty of blues, but you wouldn't want them there

#

And don't forget CPU time

#

Unless you got Anti-Lag enabled

#

Display time is 5-7ms in the best case

fickle ore
#

and you have extra 4-5ms from logitech clicks

#

and 0.5-1ms from wireless

#

logi is also capped at 1khz while astrum and zaunkoening are clockable to 8khz

#

logi does not sync mouse and usb so you could shave off another 0.5ms there, due to powersavings

zenith sonnet
#

Has anyone ever done a test how much total latency the GPW has?

fickle ore
#

why?

zenith sonnet
#

Iirc Logitech showcased it at 3ms

#

They're always at the top of charts

fickle ore
#

like I said wireless adds around 0.5ms-1ms

#

no sync between usb polls and mcu another 0.5ms

zenith sonnet
#

Well, what's the total actual latency?

#

That's the interesting figure

fickle ore
#

for what? clicks or motion?

zenith sonnet
#

Either

#

Action to signal sent/recieved latency

plush summit
#

Bruh

#

Thats so cheap

pale sigil
#

What's the catch 🤔

plush summit
#

I wanna buy it

#

I have 16

#

Double would be awesome

pale sigil
#

That's before tax no?

#

Here it's £152

plush summit
#

Cheap

ashen spindle
#

if thats pre tax its what I could get it here for too

pale sigil
#

That's what I was thinking

#

That it was pre tax

#

Because then it's not cheap

plush summit
#

Its cheaper than all the other options

#

Even with 13% tax

pale sigil
#

That specific ram has always been cheaper

plush summit
#

32gb for like 170

pale sigil
#

Wait your tax is only 13%?

plush summit
#

Ye

pale sigil
#

Got it easy tax wise

plush summit
#

I wish

#

Thats quite alot

pale sigil
#

Ours is 25% suck it up

plush summit
#

Oof

#

I kinda want to buy it while its cheep

#

But like

#

Id want to buy things when i decide to ipgrade

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So thag ddr5 doesnt come out and then im stuck on any bord with ddrr

earnest osprey
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ddr5 is at least a year off and it's going to be $$$ when it does