Well, AIB cards won't have much differences, only cooler Tino
#πβtech
delicate osprey
it can be a fine starting point
fickle ore
It's a weird thing. I don't have much brand loaylty in any other case, but motherboard and gpu vendors I have
delicate osprey
nobody is talking about that though
fickle ore
Like, Never will buy Gigabyte for their shitty BIOS etc
and that never changes π
they always had shitty bios
delicate osprey
i think they're improving recently
fickle ore
maybe, from the issues on the reddit I dont think so
delicate osprey
why are there no decent looking affordable PC cases
fickle ore
yes there are O.o
delicate osprey
well
fickle ore
delicate osprey
the only acceptable one to me appears to be Fractal Design Define R6 USB-C
fickle ore
mm QT01 is nice, comes also in Silver, nice
Maybe x570 motherboards have rear USB-c?
Why you need it on the Computer Case?
delicate osprey
I'm going for a B450 motherboard
fickle ore
Ahh well thats the issue, Maybe wait for B550?
fickle ore
Damn
delicate osprey
X570 very expensive for the feature set + high power consumption + fan
my current pc is 9 years old :p
fickle ore
You beat my I7 2600k
fickle ore
Yea our Sandybridges would ahve been good for another couple years if not for the vulnerability issues
delicate osprey
it's served me very well, running 4.3ghz all that time
fickle ore
Overwatch Performance from 300 fps to 150 fps due to vuln patches and overall performance regressions from patches
delicate osprey
but 4 threads is just not enough
fickle ore
Aye
delicate osprey
also it's just too slow for my photo editing and other stuff
fickle ore
I was running 4.8 ghz for years only 1 year ago dropped to 4.5 ghz due to instability π guess it's wore down
5.0 ghz was possible, I won the silicon lottery last time
delicate osprey
i've actually got two nearly identical setups, MSI p67-gd65 / 2500k
fickle ore
Nice
fickle ore
how?
delicate osprey
botched bios update
fickle ore
:I
delicate osprey
my own mistake though
delicate osprey
never trust bios flashers from windows
i tried manually flashing it with a raspberry pi
on the jspi pins
but i couldn't make it work
MSI netherlands fixed it for me for free though! 5 years out of warranty
delicate osprey
it really was, they said put 20 euros in the box but they just returned the note
fickle ore
haha ^^
delicate osprey
no shipping charge either
delicate osprey
I'm considering the B450 carbon pro
the only thing is that they're releasing the 'MAX' versions of those b450s soon
with the proper bios, because they had to slim it down to fit the 16MB eeprom
though I may even prefer the non-graphical bios
I couldn't handle only 4 SATA ports
but maybe i should just build a nas/server
fickle ore
I'm hesitant with the older boards
There is no guarantee the BIOS will ever be non bug fre
delicate osprey
well... they're releasing these 'MAX' versions which officially support the new generation
what processor are you getting btw?
reef patrol
OC a 3600 and get the same? π
fickle ore
you know that won't work
timid chasm
so you turning off SMT or leaving it?
fickle ore
Turning off with a 8 core most likely
feral jolt
It seems that single core results are a little skewed for zen 2
timid chasm
I thought the 3600 did better in games?
feral jolt
Using just 2 cores massively reduces frequency compared to single core
fickle ore
the 3800x is best in games out of the whole lineup
iirc
I could be wrong
best bins
feral jolt
Worst availability
Still even if a 3800x bins well it doesn't seem up to par
Using the others as a comparison
I'm still hoping bios and driver updates will make it significantly faster
timid chasm
I thought GN benched one but it seems they skipped it or didnt have one
almost seems worthwhile to save the 70 bucks and go 3700x
fickle ore
turning off SMT probably helps benchmark scores due to current scheduler issues before they are fixed, tuning ram to 63ns etc
idk if 3700x clocks as high as 3800x
and FCLK doesnt clock as much
feral jolt
Anyway are there any good prime day deals on amazon
fickle ore
Haha Back in your days Tino overclocking was even more extreme π
feral jolt
I saw the Dell 34 inch ultrawide was 720 dollars, that's a good deal but I already have one
timid chasm
I couldn't imagine buying an ultra wide or spending 700 bucks on it
delicate osprey
I'm probably going 3700x, was going 3900x but might do that on 4xxx series
timid chasm
I could spend 700 bucks on something she wanted easily
but that works out well in my favor
fickle ore
PPL have different needs and wants
personally I would spend 700 easily if I deemed worth it but not gonna spend 700 on 20 year old tech (TN panels)
Will spend 700 easily on ultrawide if they make Oleds
feral jolt
I really like the ultrawide. I think most of them are IPS
Acer and Dell and lg have IPS 120 hz
I think all the panels come from the same LG factory
fickle ore
yeah they are just milking old tech. Monopoly. Fuck them
fickle ore
Milking TN an IPS panels with no innovation. Voting with wallet until we see new tech they can produce but don't want to
there's nothing special about 120hz IPS
its just IPS
feral jolt
Resolution and curved panel
wheat plume
Are there any relatively cheap oled monitors?
fickle ore
Not currently
wheat plume
How much would the cheapest be?
feral jolt
3440x1440 pushes the limits of most hardware
fickle ore
Conan, the limitation is the not the panel for high refresh , but the bandwith of the cable and the chip
fickle ore
the cheapest oled monito is probably 5k
delicate osprey
i mean, you can get a 55" 4k oled TV for 999 euros
you could also source a 15.6" 4k laptop panel
fickle ore
tv's don't really work as a monitor if they don't have a low latency mode
feral jolt
What is this a 4k panel for ants?1?
feral jolt
Rather have 3440x1440 at 4 ms 120hz
delicate osprey
OLED tho
fickle ore
21ms is like more than my whole setups total latency π
feral jolt
Yeah oled is cool for sure but might be waiting a while til its affordable
delicate osprey
JOLED is starting printed oled production this/next year
should bring more products to market
delicate osprey
compared to 0
feral jolt
They might be 3k instead of 5k lol
delicate osprey
I figure it'll be 750-2k initially
feral jolt
Does oled have any issues with decay
feral jolt
Ghosting sucks in games
delicate osprey
yeah i returned a 144hz VA because of the ghosting
fickle ore
VA isnt OLED
delicate osprey
it happens on lower brightness with OLED
fickle ore
Not convinced, OLED has 0.1ms pixel transition times
feral jolt
4k is nice for media
delicate osprey
the pixel characteristics are dependent on the current
at low currents they suffer from some delay
if you have an OLED phone you can try it
delicate osprey
bleed isn't the biggest concern with IPS, the glow is
TN and VA usually suffer from bleed
IPS has glow when viewed off-angle
which is a problem at >~27", especially ultrawide
depends on your purposes
feral jolt
Still better than viewing TN off angle
delicate osprey
consuming and producing media, OLED and IPS
VA is nice for movies/stills too
rich colours
but professional displays are often IPS
fickle ore
ULED is not self emissive so It'll never be as good for gaming
and I don't really believe the ghosting can happen on OLED unless you have a source
perhaps some phone power saving feature
fickle ore
u read the comments the shop says its software issue..
feral jolt
Do you think microled would kill oled before it ever gets mainstream
delicate osprey
I've had it on many iterations of the samsung galaxy phones too
fickle ore
No, Microled is using leds, backlight. Never will the image be as sharp as self emissive tech
I watched that vid before u linked it, just read comments it says software issue
delicate osprey
OLED is great apart from the burnin
fickle ore
top-emissive oled will start to be produced next year. Should be better for longevity and 10% brighter atleast
delicate osprey
oled brightness is mostly an issue for TVs
really, only
in fact they can be brighter than LCDs on smaller sizes
fickle ore
Why is that?
fickle ore
Do you mean bigger pixels or smaller pixels are harder/easier to drive and what exactly reduces the brightness?
delicate osprey
the high pixel density on phones + battery constraints means the backlight cannot go through the image layer as effectively
fickle ore
There is no backlight in OLED
delicate osprey
there's 'light overhead' around the pixels
I'm talking about LCD
oled doesn't have this problem so it can be brighter at higher densities
but there's a limit to the OLED pixel brightness, but on LCD TVs the backlight is more effective
so you see a lower relative brightness on large sizes
fickle ore
Oh, you mean OLED brightness stays unaffected, but LCD brightness varies due to pixel pitch
I get it
fickle ore
Yeah it makes sense
but what do you mean when you say oled brightness is an issue for tvs?
delicate osprey
because they're often used in bright conditions
and because people see the LCD tvs shining twice as bright in the showroom and think it's better / don't notice the contrast issues
probably doesn't help that most OLED demo reels are focused on ultra contrasty scenes i.e. mostly dark
also driving OLEDs at peak brightness probably wears them out faster
feral jolt
But the blacks are darker
delicate osprey
what do you mean?
feral jolt
should have more contrast even if its not as bright
delicate osprey
yeah but you don't notice it on the shop floor because it's a very bright environment, plus the LCD tv demos often don't show much black so the total light output will exceed the OLED demos by a large amount
feral jolt
yeah it would be interesting to see if retail stores change to dark rooms for displays
wheat plume
tbf, all lot of them here put the TVs on display in dimmer lit areas than the rest of the store
they just turn the lights off, not anything else fancier than that
timid chasm
to be fairuh
the first bit for reference
People will bitch about anything when it comes to PC tech
ddr4 3600 sticks and they complain that it's 16-18-18
You can't have it all
wheat plume
wtf did I just watch?
wheat plume
"As soon as it detects itself falling, it retracts the pizza back into the phone at normal speed"
zenith sonnet
If you get ghosting with any decent modern display, you're using the wrong overdrive setting for your refresh rate
@feral jolt SotTR is like one of the worst benchmarks to compare AMD and intel
It's extremely biased
pale sigil
very good deal
ashen spindle
theres also a 1tb samsung ssd on for 117euro
timid chasm
there was a set of 16gb (2x8) 3200 ballistix elite ddr4 for 104 too. People were pretty excited about that
timid chasm
this ram is supposedly binned really well
timid chasm
I thought about that one but I don't have much use for it
timid chasm
Wasn't there a cheaper non-4k?
timid chasm
nvm it's oos it looks like
timid chasm
our 4k tv is smart and I don't need any extra stuff so I was looking for a non-4k
wheat plume
The TV we have in this house has HDMI ports but the satelite box we have only outputs in SCART -.-
and its a 32 inch 1367x768 so it looks horrible
but the colors and things are amazing
pale sigil
Ye but it doesn't run Kodi i bet @timid chasm
Thats what my Gen one is for
kodi only
i use netflix on the tv itself and on my chromecast
timid chasm
not really what I'm looking for
fallow bison
Yall smart here, how would i go about backing up my laptop to my desktop?
pale sigil
wtf
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
You could connect your laptop to your desktop via ethernet
but you cant use internet
fallow bison
The files arent too big though, so is it maybe possible to do it wirelesly?
pale sigil
then again i dont think 12 year olds should be doing that
fallow bison
nah cant, its an ultrabook
wheat plume
ayyyyy!!
ashen spindle
240 for 43 doesnt seem like the best deal?
wheat plume
What os+desktop you going to try?
ashen spindle
nvm didnt see the discount
pale sigil
absolute bargain
wheat plume
I wish !
:PP Maybe if I have time someday I will try a proper install of Arch
cause rn I am on Manjaro
I am worried about not knowing how to connect it to WIFI
pale sigil
i think ill give Manjaro another try....
wheat plume
oo I see...thats good
pale sigil
this time without all the bs grub issues
wheat plume
You dont need GRUB if its the only OS on the SSD
ashen spindle
do you have a link for that ssd?
pale sigil
As said, issues with grub, this is why im getting a different SSD to avoid that
@ashen spindle if you do a trial for audible you get 10 quid free
or whatver your country is
ashen spindle
oh so the saving isnt just from prime day?
pale sigil
correct but even the prime day offer is solid af
ashen spindle
yea but not enough to be better than the 1tb I want to get
was going to get 4 for that price lol
ashen spindle
yea I'm looking at a 1tb from samsung for 117euro
pale sigil
i wanted that one
but just dont have the money rn
which i know sounds retarded considering
but 28 quid vs 100
i pretty much spent all my money now xD
that i can
ashen spindle
yeye no I get it
wheat plume
I need to ask the user how many savings accounts they want to make and then store all of them in array of the size they told -.-
AGH arrays confuse me too much for this
pale sigil
hmm i wonder
if i use my USB 3 dock that has ethernet with the firestick
will ethernet work over it
like this but its powered
wheat plume
The Pixel 3A + 3AXL arent getting the Android Q Beta? ;-;
I assume they will get Android Q though since they are Pixel phones.
zenith sonnet
Buy RAM now or in two months?
delicate osprey
prices should start rising again at the end of the year
zenith sonnet
I need 4x 16GiB stick, 3600+, low latency π€
timid chasm
how low do you get with 3600? 15 and 16 is the lowest I've seen or head of
and does it need to be a kit or standalone sticks?
delicate osprey
3600c16 would be fine i think
timid chasm
somebody on reddit was bitching about it
delicate osprey
I'm going for similar, 32gb now and adding 32 if prices drop (or rise)
timid chasm
not sure I've seen lower tbh
zenith sonnet
I want 2x 32 GiB for two rigs
timid chasm
so you need two sets of 2x32
zenith sonnet
64 I don't need in one PC
timid chasm
got it
zenith sonnet
Well, it doesn't really matter if its 4x single stick, 2x 2 sticks, or 1x 4 sticks
delicate osprey
I think ryzen 3xxx IMC is improved so much that you don't need to be too picky
micron and hynix dies can work
earnest osprey
I got a 3600 @ 16 kit from g skill, I think it has Samsung B dies
It at least does cl 15 fine
I haven't tested it much
wheat plume
2nd time installing teamviewer and it not working
delicate osprey
man teamviewer flagged my account as commercial use
pale sigil
after blocking me
delicate osprey
assholes
wheat plume
what do you use instead?
wheat plume
o
delicate osprey
yes and no
wheat plume
i see
pale sigil
they flagged me also, because remote in pretty much all the time to my desktop.
delicate osprey
if you're on a controlled network it's annoying
wheat plume
-.-
timid chasm
oh that ballistix elite only has used left for that size
earnest osprey
I need to do some overclocking research for my 3700x, so I'll look into the ram more too
pale sigil
Pls do and give us some info on it
fallow bison
For remote access use either the new chrome remote desktop or VNC
wheat plume
Looks like something from the 1980's
timid chasm
good ole Netscape
wheat plume
yo
delicate osprey
you can use whatever client you want
delicate osprey
it's all RFB protocol
fallow bison
rename your damn pc's
pale sigil
its not updated on vnc xD
wheat plume
Teamviewer doesnt let me enter an id to connect and says my connections isnt ready
fallow bison
.MrPlaptop
delicate osprey
teamviewer has saved me plenty of times though
zenith sonnet
Is Samsung B-die still the best option for low latency RAM?
pale sigil
its useless for me now anyway
delicate osprey
using the portable edition to mirror your own screen can be real nice for presentations
timid chasm
exactly what it sounds like
fallow bison
chrome remote desktop is awesome
wheat plume
its giving me a .deb file......AGHH this is useless to me
one sec
imma check AUR
yay for yay!
lel the website wont be able to help me here
wheat plume
delicate osprey
chrome tho
pale sigil
its very bare bones, high latency and laggy at times.
delicate osprey
hate that shit
pale sigil
and chrome
wheat plume
it cant run the installed deb package, no shit !
crimson wigeon
Just do old classic X11 forwarding because it's the best thing /s
timid chasm
hah
crimson wigeon
Dunno I tried doing old school X11 magic recently it was almost usable
Unfortunately the thing I was doing required alt gr usage and for some reason that also sent a left arrow key press π€
zenith mirage
@pale sigil how are you making that ssd so cheap? mine shows as Β£23
neat oriole
Koss Porta Pro or Koss ksc75
zenith mirage
neat oriole
They look shit but they sound good
wheat plume
Written coding exams are stupid -.-
what work environment will you ever have to manually write code by hand on paper
without accessing internet for help -.-
timid chasm
Is it low level programming class?
wheat plume
Java
timid chasm
It's not about the environment it's about knowing the basics
timid chasm
higher level classes will typically let you use help
wheat plume
Even trying to code this application in IntelliJ , I had issues getting it to work the way he wanted
I also asked someone else who spent years coding java and he said they mau have been some issue with the question on the exam
They guy who is giving me lessons is really great at Java
timid chasm
sounds like a stellar professor
wheat plume
ikr....
timid chasm
and actual programming classes we were expected to know it and there were never any surprises
Some of the higher level classes for sure let us use outside help because it's unreasonable to expect results otherwise
wheat plume
one of the questions in the exam was to do some stuff using the instantOf() method
and it wasnt possible to do with the arrangement you would end up by following his UML diagram correctly
that method would not work
timid chasm
sounds like a blast
I miss the professors at my first college. They were actually helpful but with this online only crap this one professor sucks and has bullshit lecture material and every other professor uses his notes for their own classes
drives me nuts. Just teach it's what we pay way too much for
wheat plume
I just found one of the first things we did in first year
ah, I wish this year was as simple as this
timid chasm
you said you were in the end of the program or just the java material?
wheat plume
I have done the end of 2nd year java
each year there is more stuff to teach us
we did classes and loops and sorting alogorithms this year
timid chasm
4 year in total?
wheat plume
yah
thats my goal anyway :// it may come to an end if I cant make it into 3rd year in august
wheat plume
Yeah, the whole year is dedicated to making a large ass project for every subject you did in third year
so java project, c# project, web dev project using javascript and php (assuming we wont learn more), a netowkring project , software testing project -.-
we learned binary in first year
how to make logic gates and to work out what the output of them will be
timid chasm
I had an assembly class but don't remember shit on it
It was CS 334 and a fast track of 170 and 270 combined.
Pretty sure everybody was failing cause we had a bonus quiz at the end worth like 80 pts lol
wheat plume
Actually, we learned some BASH this year
I may be a fulltime linux user, but i still did shit in that class -.-
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timid chasm
All my linux was an early year at a technical school. Awesome professor
I know I hate the join command though
or did
wheat plume
Does Fedora offer a MATE Desktop as an ISO option?
because in the college they had Fedora, with the Mate desktop and the cinnamon icon pack and themes applied
it was really odd
cause I know Fedora workstation uses gnome
imma lokk
look*
wheat plume
zenith sonnet
Why do 16 GiB sticks have so much worse timings than 8 GiB sticks?
ashen spindle
not as bad as 32gb sticks at least
earnest osprey
Lmao
feral jolt
8 gb is the size of the mem chip
so a 16gb is 2 chips on a dimm
i think 32 is double sided with 2 on each side
earnest osprey
I mean
Even a 4 gb dim has several chips on both sides
So I'm not sure how dram packaging works
I would assume you need at least two chips for "dual data rate" to be possible
earnest osprey
So those ones are 8 chips on both sides
zenith sonnet
RIS/CAS is the best thing to happen to PC gaming since Freesync and Anti-lag
zenith sonnet
So, I'd be better off with 4x 8GiB or 2x 16GiB?
ashen spindle
depends how far you want to push it, what board, what kits
feral jolt
4x8 B-die's is probably the more affordable option
ashen spindle
smsung b die is EOL for a few weeks now iirc
wheat plume
RIP Unity desktop :'(
They switched to gnome 3 -.-
This making Ubuntu "just another gnome distro" in my mind
Thus*
Gnome desktop also ruined the magical and unique feeling of using zorinOS 11 too
On 12 they swapped to gnome
So rip all those compiz effects
I know
But it was unique
Now it just uses gnome
Although they way they use gnome is fairly unique
Idek what desktop it was
Or window manager it used
Shoujd try to find out
wheat plume
wheat plume
Would you like to purchase a felony quantity of keyboards?
reef patrol
I swear officer they are for personal use!
wheat plume
It thinks everytime I use Java 12, that I am playing Minecraft π€
reef patrol
π
Sure? They mentioned drugs, so they know what that is π
At least superficially.
That's what they call them though. A kilo.
Because they tend to hold a kilo of cocaine.
See the reference?
I imagine they're from a pounds country π
/r/mech is predominantly Us based
wheat plume
Keylo!!
yeh π
"sound exotic enough"
:PP
i love this post π
TYPE+super.toString()??????
wtf is this syntax and what does it mean
agghhh
TYPE is a final string variable btw
wait nvm
I am dumb -.-
the + is the concatanation -.-
im so used to seeing it with a space before and after
wheat plume
Is it possible to control MPV using keyboard shortcuts globally? so I dont have to have it focused to use the keybindings?
earnest osprey
Java just sucks
wheat plume
I only had 1 error previously -.-
savingsAccount is the array name right? or SavingsAccount? :/
I ran it, gave the info and this happens
there is 300 of these errors -.-
wheat plume
yes
i have the same as the notes
but the notes make a bankAccount array instead of savingAccount array
so somethings I had to change
zenith sonnet
Lol
No 2080 Ti Super, and the 2080 Super gets a 4% more shaders buff
ashen spindle
hrm? did someone leak the 80 super review?
also ofc there is no ti super, that one already had the full chip aside from what the titan has
wheat plume
OMFH YES
golden girder
@wheat plume I don't know if you still strugle with the code or not...
SavingsAccount are the class that it seems is not referend in your current class BankingApplication. You need to add a import line for it so the compiler know which class he should use there. You get one error for each time you have used this class in the current class. You also need to specify the class path for the class Person.
savingsAccount is a variable array of the type SavingsAccount that holds the amount of entities that the user specify in the form. I don't know why you mention bankAccount because I can't see it in our code.
It seems that you have maybe a error with the Person class too.
@digital cliff Who you are mean?
pale sigil
I should really stop using the same pin for my phone which my mum and sister know off by heart
I left my phone at home when going swimming and I swear to god I left it turned on but it was off when I got home.
@digital cliff id be lying if I said I didn't feel weird leaving the house without my phone
It was nice not being glued to it, sure I would have put it in the lockers but it would have still been on my mind when in my pocket before and after
wheat plume
I shall look at the Person class then @golden girder
golden girder
You should always start with the first error that is shown.
golden girder
I don't know how the code looks right now.
Because on the first picture it prints out an error, so it's a error on compile time. On the second you got a exception, so it happened in run time. So the compiler errors must be fixed.
wheat plume
There currently are no compile errors
It's all runtime
ashen spindle
there is one big error, it's called Java 
golden girder
So you can debug it and look at the values and check if everything is correct.
wheat plume
i have phantom upgrades
wait...pamac shows the upgrade but yay doesnt π€
wtf is going on here
wheat plume
Made my desktop look like Mac for no reason
fallow bison
bad π‘
fallow bison
send me dat pic in dm
wheat plume
o
fallow bison
ill remove
pale sigil
@wheat plume its easy to remote without crop
wheat plume
hm?
wheat plume
Xdd
timid chasm
100% plausible
wheat plume
;))
warped dove
Has the Keystone analogue (UK spelling trust me π ) keyboard been discussed on any Wooting discord channel yet?
Early bird copies are all gone so highlighting them doesn't feel like free advertising at this time.
warped dove
Welp
timid chasm
Wooting backed it
warped dove
^that's how I know about the project; I follow Wooting on kickstarter and received an email about their activity
timid chasm
Somebody mentioned it the other day but I got the email too
pretty sure the team is pro-competition because the more we see analog (US) keyboards the better chances we have to get it implemented natively in stuff
warped dove
It's obviously good R&D to see competitors but also respectable to back it officially using their main account, and I know what wooting aren't shy of shouting out for other creators and claim to actually want analogue to be adopted more widely
wheat plume
They seem to be putting the word "AI" in their Kickstarter without much reason to
timid chasm
modifies activation point based on your hands? No thanks
wheat plume
What does that even mean?
warped dove
I can tell you
wheat plume
It turns off switches if your hands aren't over them?
timid chasm
Almost sounds like dynamic changing of activation point but not sure. I just like to set it to whatever I want and leave it
I assume that'll be an option though
wheat plume
Interesting
warped dove
I heard about some papers and PhDs regarding profiling people's typing styles for Identification and error checking. Both of those ideas are deeply studied. Obviously digital keyboard designers like swiftkey, apple, google have a lot of physical and machine learning assisted researching regarding keyboard layout, design, processing, usability
timid chasm
serious question. Do we really need 100+ fps for LED animations
timid chasm
I get that you want things to check mark that others don't have but that's reaching, imo
warped dove
So I was at a hackathon a few months ago and told some doctoral students about those studies and they looked up the ideas and made a piece of software that could ID people randomly smashing keys, they called is smashpass. So rgdsjdfhasdf and gfdrhfsdgh are both valid passwords for me
wheat plume
Ooo
warped dove
Basically, AI assisting keyboard usage isn't that hard for expert developers and at least something can be achieved in a weekend
But anyone can walk up to a microphone and say "We can use AI to do anything! just fund us and we'll get right on it"
timid chasm
the adaptive AI gif just looks like DKS
warped dove
Especially after having a little success with the aforementioned possibilities
I'm guessing that the 100+ FPS LED is just a gibberish way of saying there's no noticable pulsing in the LED lighting, and it updates quickly in response the keyboard effects
Someone from their team is in here watching for all the wooting criticisms I guarantee ; )
timid chasm
Not a bad looking keyboard and I hope it does well but I don't need another with a One and a Two
wheat plume
Xd
warped dove
I think the AI stuff has decent potential if actually have some developers capable, and not just talkingpoints.
No very attractive if you want a finished product any time soon though.
These guys sure make a lot of dosh on their keyboard kickstarters. But they shoulda shown their face on camera, They have one human model pretending to use their keyboard in a previous campaign but the rest is stock footage and the voice actor is clearly just a publicity hire.
I dig the layout of the Kira mechanical keyboard. Not ISO though.
reef patrol
warped dove
Small bottomleft shift is kinda important to me. An App/Menu key is desirable too if I'm doing work using it. But the small size with enter key on the right is real nice.
zenith sonnet
'100+ FPS' keyboard lighting is still bad
Should be PWM-free
And just apply a constant voltage
There you go, million FPS lighting
reef patrol
wheat plume
This is why keyboards will need to plug into 3 usb ports in the future -.-
my last one wanted to use 2 ports already but it still worked with only one of them since I had no need for the usb pass through ports on it
zenith sonnet
Eh, that crap
I don't want that either
If I want an USB hub, it should be powered
My display has a good one, actually
To bad I can't reach it...
zenith sonnet
Yes, on the back on the left side of the right display in my setup
Dunno why Eizo thought that's a good location
It'd be barely useable in a single monitor setup
wheat plume
at least it isnt as badly designed as that apple mouse with the chagring port at the bottom -.-
that is the biggest mess up apart from the way you used to charge the pencil on ipads
ipad on a stick π
earnest osprey
Whoever designed that should be shot
wheat plume
reef patrol
Apple man himself did as I recall. It was to force you to go make a cup of coffee.
Gotta love it when philosophy takes precedence over practicality π
wheat plume
-.-
wow
while the ipad design was meant to make it not portable and to break your lightning port if you hit the pencil by accident
yay!! You got to pay them an extra 150 euro for a new pencil!!
and repair the port on your ipad too
reef patrol
Apple has made many interesting design choices over the years.
The iPad air had LCD and glass separate, making it pretty easy to replace the glass.
The iPad air 2 had both glues together. So you gotta swap both, if the glass breaks. It's basically cheaper to buy a refurbished one instead, and just donating the old one to the workshop.
Or when they removed the SSD data recovery port on their Macbooks in 2018. As if having data soldered and encryped by default wasn't bad enough for students and such π
halcyon moss
encrypted can still be recoverable
reef patrol
Encryption is also fine - If you could actually pull the data out, but no header.
I remember last exam season, parents came in with a dead Macbook, which had their daughters final work on it - We ended up sending it to a specialist who unsoldered the drive and decrypted it using their encryption key for something like a thousand euros.
wheat plume
:OO
reef patrol
Sure - She should have made backups. But most people don't think about needing that, if they aren't warned or are techie.
wheat plume
Yeah
pale sigil
Lanaaaaaaaaaa
reef patrol
I see elderly people PCs full of priceless photos, with zero backup so often. They are usually pretty damn grateful when we manage to pull out even a fraction of those from a dying drive.
halcyon moss
I like my drives to be removable (looks at lenovo x1e with 2 ssds)
reef patrol
Same - I'd never get a soldered laptop. Nigh impossible to service. Even as a technician.
I just wish laptops manufacturers would make it easier to access the interior. My Ideapad 320 had ugly marks around the case, because it's cheap plastic, and you gotta pop off like 30 small holding bits.
What happened to the easy to access panels you'd simply unscrew.
halcyon moss
5 screws to get in, and they even stay in the hole
reef patrol
Hell - My wife's Acer laptop is the ultimate Eff You to technicians. To access the RAM DIMM slots, you have to complete take it apart. Motherboard out and everything.
pale sigil
Mansennnnnnnnnnnnnnn
reef patrol
pale sigil
I hate dealing with elders when it comes to tech
Especially my grandparents, they think I'm incapable af
pale sigil
True
halcyon moss
buy quality hardware, which is servicable ;)
although even among thinkpads its becoming rarer
reef patrol
Yeah I think I read the other day that they made the recent ones even worse.
pale sigil
Lois is weird
halcyon moss
x1e also only has an internal battery, but its easy to open and replace
pale sigil
He sucks apples dick so hard but also trashes them
halcyon moss
he repairs them
pale sigil
I know
halcyon moss
doesnt use it
pale sigil
I know
reef patrol
Not a fan of internal batteries. That usually means they are exclusive to a few models, making them more expensive to buy down the road.
Whereas external ones almost get cloned overnight, with much cheaper prices, since they are much vider used.
halcyon moss
most are too long
reef patrol
Those are just videos. You should watch an entire stream π
pale sigil
Oh I do
I find them very informative, I've learned a lot, I wish I watched his videos before doing my keyboard π
halcyon moss
aww crap, ryzen 3000 made memory more expensive
reef patrol
Really? It's like half price of what I spent π
But get RAM fast - Supposedly there's an incoming supply lack
halcyon moss
well the one kit i have in my wishlist is a lot more pricy
earnest osprey
I'm glad I moved early haha
chrome estuary
I don't need more RAM. But I have two unfilled slots I really want to fill
timid chasm
there's dummy sticks for that
zenith sonnet
I still need to know WHAT ram to get to pair with an 3950X or an 3800X
4x8 GiB vs 2x 16 GiB
Which ones play nicely with Ryzen 3000?
halcyon moss
does zen 2 do quad channel? i've read it does not
Does dual channel work with 4 sticks?
earnest osprey
Yes, you can have multiple sets of dual channel
Whether you should go two sticks or four has more to do with if the mobo has t-topology or daisy chain topology for the ram
t-top supposedly works better with 4 sticks, daisy chain with two
Ryzen 3rd gen really likes 3600 mhz though
ashen spindle
just looks at your boards manual/website what it supports and then look what you can get for cheaper
zenith sonnet
I can get 8 GiB sticks with CL15, 16 GiB only CL17/18
ashen spindle
does that little difference even matter for your usecase? is your mobo t-top or daisy chain? etc.
reef patrol
zenith sonnet
I haven't picked a board yet
pale sigil
@wheat plume does my pic disgust you
zenith sonnet
I've seen worse
But here they at least add some of those air pockets to fill the space
reef patrol
I do wonder why they're not using book envelop style boxes though.
Seems cheaper overall.
reef patrol
Sure - But if you're ordering a million of one or the other, it isn't going to matter surely?
reef patrol
From that very video - I see several boxes much cheaper.
zenith sonnet
Actually, they use those book thingies a lot here for small stuff
pale sigil
they have been actually changing
tbf
as you pointed out
my other package came in a recycle bag
but they both came from different places
reef patrol
reef patrol
We do the same at our shop. I even reuse GPU and Mobo boxes, from prebuilts we sell.
Just flip the packaging to a neutral white, so it doesn't look like you're shipping a GPU (potential theft risk and all that) and put a bit of packaging fluff from when we receive stuff from suppliers.
pale sigil
meh i think im gonna stick to kbubtu
plush summit
ouch
pale sigil
fixed
wheat plume
@pale sigil Manjaro kde
pale sigil
i dont wanna use pacman π¦
pale sigil
reeeeeeeeeeeeeee
wheat plume
Would you like to install idontcare? Y/N
pale sigil
I just don't wanna get used to an entire new command set >:
earnest osprey
π₯
halcyon moss
what more do you need than search and install? π
delicate osprey
finally bought my new amd build
pale sigil
i dont like kde
wheat plume
I don't think it's ugly
I love the breeze theme
I currently use Arc dark
And the LΓΌv icons
pale sigil
It's ugly
wheat plume
It isn't the worst default theme
Look at gnomes default theme :') that thing is ugly
And those icons shudders
pale sigil
Temple OS looks nicer
wheat plume
Wait, if that was the only OS on the system, why you need grub??
pale sigil
It won't boot π€·
wheat plume
are you on nvida drivers?
pale sigil
Linux still needs a boot loader
And I'm still duel booting
Just installing Linux first
wheat plume
I have this issue with manjaro plasma using nvidia driver, it hangs up on boot
so I have to spam esc to get to the login screen
zenith sonnet
nvidia driver
There's your problem :^)
wheat plume
It doesn't happen with any other desktop
Even other version of Manjaro don't do this
zenith sonnet
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cefwjg/ty_der8auer_for_per_ccx_oc_recommend_massive/
Interesting
solar hinge
@delicate osprey what are the specs you got?
ashen spindle
jesus christ amd reddit
think "ok cant be too much bs in there" and the posts ends with a conspicary theory lmao
delicate osprey
just speculating fanboys
i went for 3700x/2x16gb micron e-die/gigabyte x570 aorus pro/2060super (until 5700 aibs come)/960gb corsair mp510/fractal R6 case/scythe mugen5pcgh cooler
@solar hinge
ashen spindle
sounds like a good build to have
delicate osprey
should be a spectacular upgrade from my 4 thread i5-2500k
esp. for my photo editing and data science shit
ashen spindle
oh yeah lol
delicate osprey
building it tomorrow
cerulean cobalt
Sup y'all boys
fiery cliff
Does anyone have figures for input latency for the gmmk? can't find any test anywhere
pm me please if anyone knows, going afk probably
wrong chat - sorry. still, if anyone has any clue what I'm talking about.. π
fiery cliff
been a while since i created a windows/linux dual boot (prefer VM:s and linux subsystem for windows for simpler things) - but last I did it I concluded it was easier to just install linux, then let windows be the boss of the bootrecord and edit it from windows with some utility. cant remember name but some sort of bcd/mbr editor /easybcd i think - used to be free though).. as win-dos gets VERY ANGRY if the opposite is done π
pale sigil
earnest osprey
Wow, keeps your pc below ambient without even spinning the fans or pump? What is this sorcery?
pale sigil
ok this is pissing me off
pale sigil
Sooo much messing around with linux
crimson wigeon
Yarp
reef patrol
That's not QUITE the result they came up with, but yeah.
zenith sonnet
Water cooling has advantages and disadvantages...
You can't say they're equal
For a non-OC usecase, I'd say water holds almost no advantages, though
Slightly improves longevity of silicon, boost clocks and power draw
But not to any meaningful extent
earnest osprey
The main advantage of water cooling is that you can move the heat somewhere that has a lot more space for radiation of that heat
But water cooling with the same cooling surface area will be less effective
Compared to air
It's why you don't see water cooling in laptops
There would be no point, there isn't any more space for larger rads anyway
earnest osprey
Maybe in a custom loop where you can have an actual reservior. Probably not for an aio
reef patrol
For nok OC use cases, it's mostly a question of case space. Some cases can fit more water-cooling than air cooling.
Also reservoirs don't help cooling. They're mostly for show.
earnest osprey
Basically all cases will have more soace for wc
A lot of water mass definitely would slow down the thermal rise
Assuming pump rate is sufficient to keep it mixed
reef patrol
Slow down, not help cooling. If anything you're just buying time. If the radiator can't get hmthdt hest out, it'll just keep rising.
earnest osprey
Depending on the situation that's fine, but you're right
reef patrol
Sure. A PC could burst within the thermal volume just fine..but for consistent work or gaming it'll have issues eventually.
earnest osprey
As for cooling area, basically any case has way more space for rads
reef patrol
Muh 5G 
feral jolt
I noticed that when I use my USB wifi adapter it gets hot as fuck if I try to download something big
earnest osprey
Usb wifi oh no
feral jolt
I actually drilled holes in my wall and hard wired because it was overheating and crashing
feral jolt
Yeah but sometimes my hardwire has issues during inclement weather
So I have the USB Justin case
I had USB only before and it ran fine when my computer was a shitter
It was sufficient in the days of spinny drives
earnest osprey
The spinny drives that still can do anywhere from 50-140 MBps which is 10 times what most people have for internet speeds?
earnest osprey
most people
feral jolt
Well is that speed accounting for when the drive is half full and starts going into blinky mode
earnest osprey
Slow hard drives are not very slow comared to what internet is
quaint verge
Get a cat 6 ethernet cable its better insulated for weather
zenith sonnet
Ryzen likes to stay cool
"You get about a 4% reduction in power consumption for every 10Β°C Tcore"
I didn't think it mattered that much
ashen spindle
I wonder if that all comes from the cores o the I/O chiplet, or equally from both
sick creek
zenith sonnet
I heard it tops out at about 40-50W for threadripper
Also, you ideally want your Ryzen to stay below 55Β°C under load
That's top tier air cooling in a very good case
zenith sonnet
https://static.techspot.com/articles-info/1877/bench/Stock.png
Stock 3900X (including stock cooler) vs OCed 9900K
You can probably get those 6% by using a better cooler
zenith sonnet
I don't understand why no reviewer uses the same cooler on both
pale sigil
also does anyone know where i can get an IOS for windows 10
cos
ugh
i cant run windows media tool on Linux >:
i have a windows on my NAS but its old af
-3 months old
feral jolt
Download the iso?
pale sigil
there is no direct download
to an iso for windows 10
there hasn't been in a longggg time
nevermind
ashen spindle
pretty sure GN are using the same cooler, the kraken for almost every test? @zenith sonnet
but yeah its crazy how many "good" or big sites just uses terrible comparison methods still
pale sigil
Ok good, now my NAS is downloading it for me while i go bed.
Need to maek a Windows part for games
thing is
its a lot cheaper to get a 9900k right now
so it seems logical to get that
ashen spindle
good z370/90 boards are also way cheaper than good x570
pale sigil
thing is
the entry for zen 2
is chaotic rn
you should avoid them for a few months
zenith sonnet
3900X runs just fine on a good B450/X470
ashen spindle
yeah but they are eol and you need a bios update, so need to manually do it usually etc.
and they arent that cheap either surprisingly
green otter
i have seen it run like 1% slower on a b350 as well they do not take a lot of power
ashen spindle
well it depends if you take a the 3600 or 3900x lol
zenith sonnet
MSI just re-released a whole stack of B450 boards 'Ryzen 3000 ready'
They're not EOL
ashen spindle
nah thats old inventory remarketed
green otter
and they have boot kits to flash bios and at stock the 3900x is 1% slower
zenith sonnet
And those will handle even a 3900X just fine
zenith sonnet
Not old inventory
They've got a different EEPROM chip on it
green otter
ya so they dont have to take out things like raid
ashen spindle
urgh that is going to get confusing with prices and such
green otter
i dont think so the old boards will fade when they drop you wont be able to find one
ashen spindle
wow even an A320 board is getting a max version??
green otter
ya the chips take like no power they can run the 8 core parts at stock without a problem
i watched hardware unboxed and i was amazed
these suckers are power efficient asf
zenith sonnet
Most important thing that every reviewer seems to fuck up on purpose is: keep the Ryzen cool
It starts to slow down noticably above 55Β°C
ashen spindle
sure but what do you need to keep it that low under load? clc?
zenith sonnet
You lose like 200-300 MHz running it 70-80Β°C
green otter
money ;)
zenith sonnet
Those are the few % it's always missing in benchmarks
Good case and a good air cooler
Since power draw is really low
ashen spindle
but its not really missing if its an unrealistic scenario?
zenith sonnet
You don't need to dissipate 250W like with an 9900K, the 3900X draws 120W tops
green otter
1000w 9900k
zenith sonnet
And that's all core load
green otter
the new ryzen parts are a huge step in the right direction they just need to figure out gaming and intel will be useless