probably some other way to do it but I don't know that it'd be "neater"
#🔌│tech
wheat plume
I had to figure all this out without internet or notes in an hour for an exam ;-;
I want to improve it though
timid chasm
doubt there's much to improve on just that line unless you just want it shorter
but that'd involve the same steps basically just line by line
for every one that is greater than the third side give a boolean a true value then check if bool && bool && bool
but it's the same thing
ashen spindle
I mean the point was the improve the entire code, so if you know which variant is appearing the most, you could make a local variable for it
or for the last check, instead of making s1s1 multiple times save it as s1x1 = s1s1, but that's all I could think of
timid chasm
yeah it's just taking something and doing it another way it seems
I don't think there's a way to determine what would tend to be false most likely either
otherwise you could short-circuit each if statement but minor convenience
more like a thing you just do by habit
wheat plume
its sayig this is an unreachable statement when i put the ; after the first return -.-
ashen spindle
yeah you dont want to return there yet
first step create a local string
then set it to what your text says, and append what type it is
timid chasm
and doesn't that if set need brackets too?
ashen spindle
then return that string
timid chasm
nvm they're 1 line
ashen spindle
no you can write one liners
so basically if its a triangle "string = text" then string.append or + or whatever works there to add the next line
timid chasm
isn't that line just checking them all together?
nvm
can you do 1 == 2 == 3 in java or w/e that is
or just assignment shit
ashen spindle
dont think you can
timid chasm
boo
wheat plume
wheat plume
hm?
timid chasm
with s1+ s2 > s3 wouldn't it apply also if s1+s2>=s3?
ashen spindle
no
wheat plume
idek
ashen spindle
no you just keep it as > 
timid chasm
you mean just >
ashen spindle
yes
wheat plume
I did not mean to start a debate on how a triangle is defined 😛
ashen spindle
trianglelists ftw
timid chasm
pretty sure java doesn't even support triangles since Mc doesn't even have them 😛
wheat plume
^^^ not wrong
timid chasm
nah it's just 4 smaller squares
wheat plume
^^ also not wrong
I hate how Chrome has this habit of always opening on the SAME DESKTOP you closed it on -.-
I closed Chrome on the third desktop and it opens on that desktop no matter what desktop I opened it from
UGHH
I opened it from desktop 1, it opens in 3, which is the desktop I was on last time I closed it
timid chasm
what do you mean you open it from 1?
mine opens from wherever I last closed it?
do you have like 3 diff chrome icons in each desktop
wheat plume
I have 4 virtual desktops, I click the chrome icon from the dock I have and it opens up in whatever desktop I last closed it from
halcyon moss
if statements without block {} 😒
timid chasm
that seems normal to me
halcyon moss
thats just asking for errors
wheat plume
you dont need { } when its only one line
halcyon moss
no you don't when its a single statement afterwards. But in my opinion it is super error prone
wheat plume
i dont see how it is if you indent it right
halcyon moss
well, you add a second statement, assuming it is wrapped in a {}. But now it isn;t
wheat plume
I know that return is part of that else cause I have in tabbed in under it
halcyon moss
second statement is now outside that block
wheat plume
If I need to do that I just look at how I indented it
and that fact there is only one statement in that
halcyon moss
you assume you are always coding perfectly 😉
wheat plume
ehhh kinda
I am just realllly careful about editing code I ave written already
I comment out the line and paste a copy and edit that, and then remove the original when it works xd
halcyon moss
if that works for you, then it works.
i know myself, and this way i will break code. I always put the {} on a if
timid chasm
hell, even with brackets I fuck up all the time
halcyon moss
but most of the time i'm writing Python, so i don't need to deal with those pesky brackets anyway :p
timid chasm
esp when we made Checkers and Go
ashen spindle
both, but use both only rarely since I'm fine with most autoformatting VS gives me
though it is funny to look at satistics showing the average earnings of people who use tabs vs spaces
timid chasm
so a tab 😛
halcyon moss
well, i press the tab key...?
timid chasm
yay configurations!
halcyon moss
🎉
reef patrol
Prebuilts. Not even once
reef patrol
That appears to be the case. ACER factory workers specifically.
reef patrol
crimson wigeon
Tabs are the way to go, and then spaces if you want to align things
ashen spindle
first people are getting the new index controllers, cant wait for the reviews
plush summit
@reef patrol that hurts to look at
reef patrol
It hurts more to pay for. 😂
ashen spindle
well, if it works for a bit its better than when I got a non bent cpu that just died lol
earnest osprey
Bent cpu, ouch
plush summit
expecting to see an autograph on the top "linus wuz here"
zenith sonnet
I wonder what my VII can do under water...
ashen spindle
https://videocardz.com/81086/asus-gigabyte-palit-geforce-rtx-super-and-radeon-rx-5700-series-spotted-at-eec @zenith sonnet you wanted some news
pale sigil
TL:TR
ashen spindle
wait for tuesday
zenith sonnet
Calling it now
Super is going to be a paper launch
Just so they have something that theoretically competes with Navi at the same price points
ashen spindle
ye its basically a mix of what they did with the 11gbps pascal and some pricedrops
which is nice to have, better than not having it
feral jolt
I dont see any improvements here
With any aftermarket card with nice phases you can reach 120-130% of the base power limit
These probably aren't much better than a evga FTW3
latent mural
well
you can get a super FTW3
still not really worth
like the pascal "refresh"we had
pretty meh
kinda like intel skylake refreshs mostly were
feral jolt
That's what I think yeah. Unless the aftermarket companies come up with something
latent mural
if you get the old cards cheaper you might as well take those
if they are the same price you get a minimal performance increase you will likely won't notice
ashen spindle
the 2070S will have more cuda cores than the original at 100$ less, and more rt cores, idk how that is a useless refresh 
the 2080S will get more stuff at the same price but also faster memory, so they also push down prices of the original models so now you dont have 200$ gap between two options
pascal refresh really was just faster memory for same or even higher prices lmao
earnest osprey
Market flood to give amd a hard time with navi launch
Better and cheaper gpus are great, but poor amd
feral jolt
i dont think in practicality they are going to be 100 dollars cheaper for the super models
either aftermarket cards will be more expensive or regular cards will become cheaper
ashen spindle
sure, but thats the same as aftermarket cards never hitting msrp either
zenith sonnet
I'm still expecting Super to be paper launch
So many amazing panels in development
2020 we'll get 4k 144Hz HDR600+ for less than 2000 €
Maybe as low as 1200€
feral jolt
it means nothing
there isnt hardware to power a beast like that
unless you are trying to play minecraft at 4k 144hz
zenith sonnet
I'm usually keeping my display longer than 1 GPU cycle
I'm still using my 2009 WQHD as secondary display
Anyway, my VII should be able to handle it at appropriate settings
144 FPS is still mostly a CPU issue, not GPU
feral jolt
not at 4k
but usually yes
i imagine a vii with a 3000 series chip should hit like 90-110 averages which isnt that bad
but frame dips might be painful
zenith sonnet
Lowering graphics settings, I'm always gping to be CPU limited eventually
And almost no game will do stable 120+FPS, even at lowest settings
zenith sonnet
Nah, I've tried
1% lows will always be under 100, except for a few select titles
But maybe a 3950X will make some difference to my 5820K
I expect 40% better 1% lowest frame times
feral jolt
modern intel chips have a 30% faster core speed
i imagine that since the 3950x is around the same core speed it will lead to a 30% fps increase if you are completely cpu bound
feral jolt
does that thing use ddr3
earnest osprey
It's both ddr3 and ddr4, actually
One of the very first consumer cpus with ddr4 support
Man like
I got that new
600 for the cpu
400 for the mobo
400 for slow ddr4 with no fancy heatspreader
feral jolt
eh i mean it aged pretty well besides the ram
zenith sonnet
I got mine way cheaper back than
360 for the CPU
300 for the board
240 for the RAM
Upgraded the RAM like two years later from 2133 to 3200
I'm curious what the LG displays that become available next month will perform like
But damn, I might just have to wait a year or so for a decent 31.5" 4k 144Hz display with HDR
That's about everything you need for the next couple years
feral jolt
whats the jedec ram speed
earnest osprey
I would rather have 1440p 240hz
If the ips response time can come low enough to do that without smearing to shit
Maybe a VA panel could do it, I know there is a 200 hz one
zenith sonnet
The new LG panels might be able to do 144Hz with little to no overdrive
Anyway, manufacturers seem to reduce response times a lot lately
With the new panels they develop
earnest osprey
1440p ips can already do 165 hz fine
zenith sonnet
Depends on the overdrive settings
But even the best IPS displays barely get down to 6ms average pixel response time with maximum overdrive
earnest osprey
I don't know how overdrive works or if i have it on
Technically the pixel response only has to be lower than the frame time
earnest osprey
only three samples and high error margin but
That would be damn impressive
it's about what a 9700k/9900k gets on that site for single core
so we'll see
zenith sonnet
There's also that leaked review that showed it almost on par with a 9900K in single thread
wheat plume
your pfp is so pretty :DD
earnest osprey
Thanks Lana
It's often engineering or review samples that show up in early benchmark listings
ashen spindle
well by now its a fair chance to be a review sample
earnest osprey
since some get it early and they do all their testing ahead of time, then post a video right on the release date
yeah
We don't know what the conditions it ran at were really
So we all wait for the 7th
wheat plume
wheat plume
Everyone hates the Irish
Except those Americans who claim to be Irish despite their only Irish relative being so so so far back it doesn't matter
zenith mirage
See that a lot with people claiming to be Scottish
But they don't really care about Scotland, just what "being Scottish" allows you to do, like wearing kilts and saying you're part of an ancient clan
wheat plume
wow
zenith mirage
Its more amusing than anything tbh. Like reading Americans fretting about wearing the right tartan for their clan, when like 98% in Scotland don't know or care about clan tartan
wheat plume
cuteyyyyyy :DDD
pale sigil
It's his birthday today
wheat plume
:DDDD
pine reef
a rub? nah give that dog a belly rub.
plush summit
reef patrol
#thatsalottadamage
latent mural
yeah d00d your chip just desoldered, just leave it in the oven on max heat for an hour
ashen spindle
nothing a can of compressed air cant fix 
latent mural
I lost my video card support peg, but then i thought, how would china fix this
reef patrol
timid chasm
Uhh. That's a 128GB SSD Microsoft...
latent mural
intel is rip
and they know it
they are basically saying that they will compete in stuff outside of perfomance
but an internal document says that amd is better in that regard and took over the lead with fewer people while being at a major disadvantage
zenith sonnet
Yeah, read that thing
Well, what ARE things intel is still better at?
Cache latency?
Wow.
latent mural
well, we as a customer don't have any official numbers
fallow bison
Packaging
fallow bison
Yeah no like cardboard
latent mural
my i5 6600k came almost loose in the box
zenith sonnet
Also, AMD adds, if intel adds one at all, a much better boxed cvooler
fallow bison
If amd had that 9th gen box
zenith sonnet
If only I didn't have to wait for September for the 3950X..
@latent mural What do you think about latest panel development plans?
Is it a bad time to shop for monitors?
latent mural
i am completely out of the monitor game
like 100%
and I only want ultrawides personally
so the market is expensive for me
zenith sonnet
There's several 4K, 144Hz, HDR1000 panels in development that are supposed to become available 2020
Then again, it'll be a 1-2 year wait until affordable displays using those become available
latent mural
i mean i'd love to have a 1440p ultrawide 120+hz panel with good colors and contrast
but I also need vesa which almost already kills it
and is expensive af
zenith sonnet
I dunno, why ultrawide?
You can probably get additional vertical pixels at the same price with 16:9
latent mural
ever since I used ultrawide I don't want to go back
and you'd need a large screen for that
there are some 31.4"monitors
they are all VA
well, I am not making a completely impossible task
there is stuff rather close to that
but that is expensive af
zenith sonnet
31.5″ IPS-type Panel with 4K @ 144Hz with >1 Million Zone Dimming Backlight!
Expected Q4 2019
latent mural
why not micro leds at that point
zenith sonnet
Another 31.5″ Option with 4K @ 144Hz but with a 10,000 Zone Mini LED backlight
This?
latent mural
mini led isn't backlight lol
latent mural
best option for me is still the predator lol
why bother with it being a backlight at that point
zenith sonnet
Because the pixels can't light themselves up
zenith sonnet
But the first panel is getting there
It probably has 1 LED for every 2x8 or 3x3 pixels
That's OLED
There are OLED displays
But they aren't generally usable yet
Like early LCDs were a poor choice for gaming
The tech isn't fast enough yet
And they have only a few thousand hours of lifetime
My Eizo has almost 30k hours now
If it were OLED, it would probably not be able to display blue any more
3 years ago, blue LEDs had a 2000h MTBF or something
fickle ore
they aren't fast enough? wut?
zenith sonnet
Ok, I take that back
I have not seen a review measuring signal to photon delay on an OLED screen yet
latent mural
i wish amd had a high core count cpu with inbuilt graphics with display port via usb c
i wonder how many cores will the next apus have this new generation
feral jolt
i think with in a few years APU's will become the standard budget build
instead of like a ryzen 1200 and a rx 570 it will just be an APU
it would be a lot simpler for first time builders too. just screw in the mobo/apu/cooler assembly, plug in power supply, and add ram
feral jolt
Oof
Just killed my 980 ti
Time to go to microcenter
Should I mount all the graphics cards I've killed to my wall
pale sigil
How did you kill it
feral jolt
Playing squad in 3440x1440
pale sigil
Man I hate the MSI design so much
feral jolt
Yeah I dont like msi anymore
pale sigil
OC
feral jolt
The only OC I did was adjust max power to 110%
pale sigil
Nah it slowly kills the GPU
feral jolt
Screen went black, I restarted and nothing happened but everything was spinning
So I moved hdmi to mobo
And went in to bios and it said I didnt have a GPU
I reseated it and it said the same thing
Its evga b stock. I've only owned it for 2 months or so
Gonna go to microcenter and buy a zotac 2080 ti
Arguably one of the worst brands but that's the point. It just needs to last long enough for me to trade it in for next gen
Microcenter product protection is top tier
They arent
That's like saying all mechanical keyboards are the same
zenith sonnet
The chips are created equal, but the PCBs are not
pale sigil
I have but it was down to the EVGA defect
feral jolt
Well I really push my hardware to play squad in 3440x1440
A good GPU is very noticeable
I also play way too much vidya
1200 hours in squad
Between different PCBs?
zenith sonnet
Different VRMs, power delivery, memory chips...
feral jolt
A lot of higher priced ones get higher binned silicon with that nice PCB too
zenith sonnet
If you use the card as-is, it doesn't matter
zenith mirage
something something higher overclocks something something
zenith sonnet
If you OC or UV, you may have better results
feral jolt
I dont SL often because I play with a clan
zenith mirage
i see
zenith sonnet
Better power delivery may allow you to run lower voltages or more amps
Better memory may lead to a few % better performance
And some manufacturers bin their chips for different tiers of cards
feral jolt
None of this matters if you're playing minecraft
zenith sonnet
Doubt I'll be able to kill my VII with anything except mounting pressure, though...
feral jolt
Matters a lot if you're playing AAA games at higher resolutions
plush summit
Why would you buy a Vega 7... isn't it crazy inefficient
Like performance-per-watt and all
pale sigil
Why would you buy AMD gpus 
feral jolt
Give it a year and navi GPU will be the card to buy
plush summit
Doubt x
pale sigil
plush summit
Amd has a little bit ago still in terms of power consumption
zenith sonnet
It's about equal to the 2080 perf/watt
pale sigil
Im excited for Navi
feral jolt
Nvidia has no tricks up their sleeve. The super launch is stupid
plush summit
Right now I want to see test first
The super launch makes me think Nvidia is out of ideas
Or they're just bored
zenith sonnet
I call paper launch
plush summit
Since AMD really isn't any competition anymore
pale sigil
They are worse than apple at this point XD
zenith sonnet
Just so they have something that competes well with Navi on benchmark charts
feral jolt
AMD is out here playing 7 nm chess
pale sigil
Fucking 3 variants of the same gen
plush summit
Don't they?
pale sigil
Now they are doing super
zenith sonnet
2060/70/80 are no match price/perf for Navi
plush summit
In a good way or a bad way?
zenith sonnet
Good for Navi, bad for Nvidia
feral jolt
Unless you calculate your power bill cost over 3 years 😂
pale sigil
Oh I've started
zenith sonnet
For Navi? Looks decently power efficient
feral jolt
Nah I'm more talking about the vii
pale sigil
The only time I'll ever consider AMD is if it's ever actually better
Not just "nearly as good as"
zenith sonnet
I don't see it being actually worse
pale sigil
Ryzen is similar
zenith sonnet
Also, I like the lower button-to-photon delay
pale sigil
Per core is the reason I haven't
zenith sonnet
Per core, the 3000s seem to trash intel at all tiers
Can't wait for the benchmarks
zenith sonnet
The only thing intel has is Hz
As for Navi, it at least is good enough to have prompted Nvidia to do the whole silly Super thing
I'm hoping Vega gets that whole display lag reduction feature launch day as well
earnest osprey
I think nvidia is all open source driver wise too?
ashen spindle
"The super launch makes me think Nvidia is out of ideas" or maybe they aren't worried that amd has somewhat competitive offerings a year later, when next year they'll have a new generation with probably performance jumps like from maxwell to pascal
earnest osprey
Literally anyone can play with the cuda sdk
And I know people make edited nvidia drivers
wheat plume
Distros like Manjaro and Pop OS auto install nvida drivers for you if you choose to install them
earnest osprey
The nvidia ones work just fine anyway
The part that matters for making stuff run on the gpus is open source though
pale sigil
I'm sorry what?
ashen spindle
pale sigil
wheat plume
a lot of games will be using Vulkan now , maybe, cause of Google Stadia
so there will be very high change of them releasing a linux binary too to run
earnest osprey
Whatever
wheat plume
I have the force composite pipeline enabled, it makes plasma not screen tear
very nice
feral jolt
ended up buying a 2080 ti
feral jolt
959 for a windforce OC
bought the microcenter protection plan so in 2 years i can take it back and get a 3080 or whatever
if it lasts that long the way i game
good thing squad doesnt support ray tracing lol
ashen spindle
oh dam that sounds like a steal, didnt know you could get them for below 1k
feral jolt
it was an open box deal
had been sitting there since april so they cut the price twice
ashen spindle
wow
feral jolt
but they said that this card was never used. someone bought it and it didnt fit in their mid tower
ashen spindle
lmao nice
feral jolt
there wasnt a single scratch on the PCIe plug so that would be a good indicator
ashen spindle
250-300 off of a basically new cards is not bad, especially if it comes with a protection plan
feral jolt
yeah im pretty happy with it
i guess they just knocked it down from 1100 to 959 a couple days ago
ashen spindle
wonder if that was an accident and it was supposed to be 1059 lol
feral jolt
i dunno. this card has terrible reviews
ashen spindle
I mean tripple fan should be good enough cooling regadless of the actualy quality of it, as long as you dont push heav oc 
even worst case, just spend a few minutes undervolting and it really shouldnt matter
feral jolt
well some reviews said they couldnt get past 1350 mhz on the clock
but mines here at 1920 mhz
another review said theirs caught on fire 😂
ashen spindle
feral jolt
i wonder how much of these bad reviews are just stupid people who dont deserve a 2080 ti
console peasants
ashen spindle
not getting beyond baseclock seems like someone just suffocating their gpu entirely in a closed case
feral jolt
memory clock is 7000 mhz right now for me
getting a steady 240 fps in the server browser
earnest osprey
Isn't 7000 mhz the base memory clock?
zenith sonnet
AMD drivers on Windows are great
exotic rune
Indeed
I came from a Gtx 670 to a Vega 56 and...oh my god...I lived for 5 years with the "driver stopped working and had to be restarted" bug from nVidia literally every two hours of playing games, which I had with every nVidia GPU before too. Other than that, the driver handling feels like some early 2000s software. Clunky and unintuitive. I am happy that I made the switch back to AMD. Last time I used an AMD GPU was the HD 6870 which was also a great card for the time.
ashen spindle
first nvidia gpu was 770, no issues with that or my 1080 ever 
cant say anything about before
solar hinge
I've had a geforce2, x1950xt, hd4780, HD 6870, gtx770 and now a 1080ti
As well as a 290x
pale sigil
It sucks ass
wheat plume
That's doesn't have a dark theme on anything other than stock Android
pale sigil
Also the no notch wide screen effect wore off so quickly haha
feral jolt
I actually find phones with no bezel to be annoying
I like the screen to end on a comfy bezel not slide my finger off it to touch the edge
In other news 2080 ti was worth
Steady 120 fps at 3440x1440 with some boosted up settings like ambient occlusion and effects at "cinematic"
timid chasm
what game though
feral jolt
Squad which is a notorious bastard of a game
timid chasm
pretty common in EA games
feral jolt
It was really bad in alpha 10
timid chasm
Can't imagine it was/is worse than ARK 😂
feral jolt
I dunno it could be. Is ark cryengine?
timid chasm
Unreal 4
feral jolt
Oh same with squad
timid chasm
on ARKs EA launch it was hard to get 60 fps without using their shitty launch arguments
and it made the game look like a blur
shader model, that was it lol
😂
timid chasm
I had an fx 6300 for a while. That was kinda rough
feral jolt
Luckily my friend for some reason decided to upgrade his 6700k to 7700k and I bought his 6700k and mobo for 200 a couple years ago
But now I need a ryzen to power my 2080 ti
zenith sonnet
Can you post a framerate graph?
reef patrol
I have converted. I am now a wireless mouse apostle.
Aside from not having any onboard profiles, I'm quite happy about my new Harpoon RGB mouse.
I honestly can't feel the latency using 2.4ghz.
still cave
I use a g502 lightspeed
reef patrol
And I hate when my cabled mouse hits the monitor or something. The cable that is.
reef patrol
Tried those, didn't work.
latent mural
Or a paracord
The harpoon is just pretty heavy
And corsair decides to cheap out on sensors
reef patrol
The Harpoon is one of the lightest mouse out there
It's like their most basic model. And I love it.
reef patrol
Haha. Not even close.
latent mural
Like almost all but 3 of the logitech wireless ones
And 2 of the 3 are a variation of the same mouse
reef patrol
My old G9x, my old razer. Much heavier corded mice.
99g is like a feather. And it only has two side buttons.
reef patrol
latent mural
I'd say below 90 is fine
reef patrol
Welp. Light enough for me 
latent mural
But 80 and below is not that hard to achieve
reef patrol
And short. Much more important. Can't stand long mice.
latent mural
And corsair still doesn't get the competitive players
reef patrol
Legit can't use most mice due to my intense claw grippage.
latent mural
The harpoon and now the m55 have weird drawbacks
G305
Does that
Depends on the shell he used
Tbh i am amazed how good the g305 is
reef patrol
Yeah I was a diehard G9x user. So sad it never came back.
I'll have to try the 305 at some point.
Only downside with the Harpoon, is that I hate the onboard hardcoded profiles till iCue boots up. None of them match my own DPI
zenith sonnet
@digital cliff Get a Logitech Lightspeed wireless
They have less latency than cabled mice of other brands
3-4ms measured average
That's about as much as you get with a Logitech wired mouse :p
timid chasm
yeah no way
latent mural
Lightspeed already beats many wired mice in latency
a wireless connection can be just as quick as a wire though
well, it is now
lemme look it up if there is any empirical evidence
that logitech mice hav ethe same delay no matter if wireless or not
zenith sonnet
The Logitech wireless hardware is amazing
Practically immune to interference as well
latent mural
wouldn't say that
but if you use the extender to place the receiver on your desk yo uusually don't have problems
zenith sonnet
It's been tested, and proven
Hell, I can use the mouse 2 rooms over without issues
latent mural
some people have problems if their wifi ap is right next to the pc and they don't use the extension
latent mural
yeah, that happens
likely your dac/amp
you could try to use some kind of shielding
I have to keep my phone on the other side of the desk to stop it from happening
feral jolt
man it sure would be cool if someone made a mid priced hall effect joystick that worked
wheat plume
I dont understand Arch Linux, on a pure install , the sound is set up u sing ALSA but it is MUTED by default......you have to set it up to startup not muted
wheat plume
Ah , PyCharm. Calling people out on their crappy duck typing since whenever it was created 😂
timid chasm
Heard of rubber duck debugging but not duck typing
crimson wigeon
Duck typing is cancer
zenith sonnet
What is duck typing? Like with 1 finger?
timid chasm
It doesn't make sense to me
timid chasm
yeah I don't follow
latent mural
I can't boot to windows with just a usb-c monitor plugged in, works fine for bios, but crashes-reboots after the bios splash screen
it's a rtx 2070
maybe a word of warning for someone
wheat plume
I spent 60 hours in vehicles last month it seems
wheat plume
I dont walk very much
I probably should
I made firefox look like a gnome application
well, I didnt do the code behind this, I just installed the theme manually
I put it on my laptop
I hated the cinnamon desktop on linux mint so I installed gnome instead
I want to install Pop OS
but I dont want to fuck up my duel boot
;-;
i need windows for only ONE project in college, because she refuses to let us use other software
she managed to pick the HARDEST software to use and install for this project
I cant, when im not there
I must repeat it over summer -.-
idk if the college has the labs open over summer UGHH
and I cant do the project on my laptop cause me and the other 85% of the year could not get the software installed and working right
and she refused to help us because "It is very easy to install"
yet she wasnt the on who installed it, the computer technicians did
I hate her so much
I can do the course, on other software and then try to convert my project later to the software she wants when I can get into the college labs
thats what I did already
Oracle SQL is slightly different than microsoft SQL -.-
and the way to connect to the databse is so much fucking harder on Oracle via microsoft visual studio
she doesnt care , she wants it on THAT software
she refused to help me when she saw I was using something else
she also refused to help me becaues I wasnt up to date on what she taught us in class, I cant be up to date if IDK how to do it and thats why I asked for help
mm
everyone complains about her
even the rest of the damn staff there -.-
you mention her name to staff and they visibally shudder
I am fairly sure the college only keep her there so they can get the repeat money from students who fail her classes
cause like 60% of students do in her classes
ikr....
only 3 people in my particular class consistently pass her exams
pale sigil
My uni actively avoid repeats
They don't encourage it
It's horrible repeating
Mentally draining
zenith sonnet
Lol, 2070 Supers are literally poorly binned 2080s
latent mural
imagine if you bought a 2080 like a month ago
and now the 2070 super just almost beats it for like 200$ less
zenith sonnet
Nah, 2080 still stronger
latent mural
they are pretty close
zenith sonnet
2070 Super is a 2080 with 6 less cores
zenith sonnet
For a total of 40/72 enabled cores
zenith sonnet
Maybe has more enabled cores than the original 2080, same as with the 2060 Super?
sudden glacier
ye time to head outside and play with the dog in the park fellow gamers
been receiving errors for 2 hours now
feral jolt
2080 super has better memory and a few more cores
zenith sonnet
Well, there's also been claims that it would be 800$
Eh, it's not impossible, though
Navi is really small
latent mural
still not enough power for 4k
zenith sonnet
You can put a lot of Navi into an APU
feral jolt
Yeah my gtx 1080 runs 8k 120 fps no problem
latent mural
in doom 2
feral jolt
I only play super Mario 2
zenith sonnet
Also, that video by coreteks mentions a lot of interesting things
ashen spindle
video with the title " the END of nvidias dominance", talking about an architecture that we dont have in our hands yet/dont know everything about, vs a year olrd archtiecture that wasn't even focused on traditional shader improvements
zenith sonnet
Huh.
There will be a point in the nearer future where an APU will deliver the same performance as a CPU+discrete GPU at a lower power draw
ashen spindle
not for high end for a while
unless we get some breaktrhough that allows die shrinks by more than expected ammounts
zenith sonnet
I think it's more of an issue of putting the right things together and cooling them
ashen spindle
I mean I'm expecting the new nvidia gpus to have lower heat output since they are on 7nm EUV and historically nvidia always had good thermal designs
it does look a loooooot better for the future of amd without GCN limitations
earnest osprey
Tegra SOCs are pretty incredible, for heavily parallel workloads
Not sure how useful it would be for gaming or other more linear tasks
ashen spindle
depends, always hard to judge since performance from SoCs are generally biased, since software is optimized to run on one specific set of hardware
same pattern how consoles get better performance than games on the pc with equal power
okay finished the coreteks video
a lot of good information in the first 3/4
but then he suddenly extrapolates that amd has the performance crown in 2020, from Lisa Su saying, RDNA is scalable 
wheat plume
earnest osprey
Why is that 1400, jesus
earnest osprey
That's too much lol
wheat plume
yeh...the phone is being preordered for 650 dollars
idk what the actual price will be
earnest osprey
how expensive is the monitor
earnest osprey
550 for a 24 in monitor??
wheat plume
who knows....
earnest osprey
I hope they aren't trying to make people get a 4k hdr 1000 monitor with their phone
wheat plume
the KB better be mech too
I mean a phone could run that
perhaps
but idk that processor in the librem 5
its not snapdragon or mediatek
earnest osprey
Kb in the picture looks more like a mac kb
wheat plume
yeh, true
but they dont even have a body for the phone yet, its just a dev board
with a small screen attached
earnest osprey
Probably why they are asking so much
Don't even have the money to develop the product
wheat plume
they are for sure focusing most of their attention to the software, the rate they putting youtube vids about it
earnest osprey
At least they seem to be working on it
wheat plume
mm , I am positive it will be a finished product
they are currently using the gnome desktop, making it work for smaller phone screens using a thing they made called libhandy
earnest osprey
Doesn't seem like they are claiming anything dumb either
wheat plume
Nope, gnome desktop has a nice way to convert it to small screens tbh
the apps seem like mobile apps anyway on desktop , kinda
itll be hard to make the preference menus to work on a phone
pale sigil
Pretty much the sad truth
wheat plume
It's gnome desktop with a special library to make the apps resize to phone size
And they already have their own desktop OS
wheat plume
Possibly
zenith mirage
If its open source, then surely people can support it themselfes even if the company behind it folds?
If it is indeed open source, which I assume it to be
Although that also requires a large enough user base with enough skilled people involved
zenith sonnet
Well, why would tens of thousands of users use it?
There's not enough marketing, this is the first I've heard of it as well
Assuming you can convert 1% of users to use your new OS as early adopters, you gotta get millions to read about it
wheat plume
FINALLY getting the Plasma 5.16 upgrade
Problem is, its 1.3GB update size on Manjaro
It is a lot of consistency fixes
the system settings arent very consistent so they are trying to fix that
and some bug fixes and better notification handling too
It has been stuck on downloading "xf86-input-elographics" for the past 10 minutes :/
wtf
and its still at 1.1GB downloaded
did the update freeze?
wheat plume
hmm, this is WAYYYY different now
all that wasted space 🤔
it was left jusitified
and a lot larger in scale
I can finally move the notification popups to bottom right
pale sigil
I honestly don't care, I don't give much data to google on my phone anyway, they can see me reading Reddit all they want or see me going to uni or the shop XD
I don't text anyone, I use brave to browse etc
I don't use assistance
Even on PC I've been taking a lot of action
Temp containers are a godsend
Aye you became my granddad
You gonna get a grandad car too along with it? xD
Oh noes
Don't drive past schools
Guy with a Nokia and a van can't end well
I really hope you haven't recently purchased sweets also
*sweets
I only really eat chocolate
Me and cookies don't get along
zenith mirage
Fruit and nut mixes 👌
pale sigil
Don't like nuts
earnest osprey
Legumes!
pale sigil
Mhmm
zenith mirage
I will admit, I do prefer salted nuts but I avoid them since the whole point is they're supposed to be better for me
zenith mirage
You'd love galexy hot chocolate. Make the mistake on preparing it with milk and youll be drinking what tastes like salt water
Quite impressive how they managed that
zenith mirage
Oh yeah, no clue how they made such a mess of it
crimson wigeon
I used to have super+ all the number keys for my virtual desktops.. now I barely use them :/
open tinsel
What OS would you guys recommend for a Huawei ALE L21
wheat plume
Doesnt EMUI use iOS like gestures?
harsh terrace
I never felt a need to use a virtual desktop
Even before having double monitor setup
earnest osprey
I found them useful in macos cause there was a dedicated button for it so it was easy
karmic grail
Tried it in my PC a bit, PSU fan just fucking sky rocketed
Sounds like a jet engine lol
pale sigil
aye but you rarely ever need to have it more than 10%
zenith sonnet
16 GiB is even nicer
I seem to be limited by system memory though
Can't really load more than 10-12 GiB with 16 GiB RAM
So, sorta useless? 🤔
solar hinge
yeah bob, don't you need a bigger desk bob
so your mouse fits
Bob
Right @karmic grail
karmic grail
@digital cliff just borrowing friends I have to give it back 😭
@solar hinge yep still need a bigger table
feral jolt
Anyone here use hwinfo64
zenith sonnet
Yeah, used that
zenith mirage
Not even sure I care at this point. Might pirate it as a small fuck you to rockstar for their shitty release tactics
It'll sell like hotcakes though, so it's ultimately meaningless what I do but still
wheat plume
I used the code generator feature to make a constructor and now it says there is none??
wtf
mortal pilot
the drefault constructor is the cobnstructor without parameter
so public Brain(){...}
so simply write your constructor and you be fine
wheat plume
Yeah, I got it sorted I think.
wheat plume
oooo new feature
ashen spindle
so apparently rx5700 and rx5700xt will drop prices by 30 and 50 usd respectively, the day before launch
nice move to bait out nvidias super pricing if its true
though I am worried that AiBs will not get lower costs and have to eat profits for this, or can't compete with reference edition which would suck bc their coolers suck
ashen spindle
but those cases were price adjustments after launch right?
and I might be wrong on it, but I think that mostly came from nand prices going down and thus the HBM they used not costing as much anymore
but I hope it was planned so we just get lower prices without losing quality 
I have no clue how that relates to anything this launch
zenith sonnet
AMD probably still has a larger profit margin than Nvidia
They're using more of the binned as trash TU-104's now, but they're still a whole lot larger
Also, I called paper launch, and apparently there's no stock anywhere
Didn't look myself, though
feral jolt
The 3.5gb gtx 970 thing was pretty funny. My friend got a check from nvidia from the class action
ashen spindle
when a company announces a new product, but you cant get it bc its already out of stock, or prices are way above msrp and such are called paper launch
because it is launched on paper but not in reality
zenith sonnet
Leaked benchmarks
https://i.imgur.com/Els9aDX.jpg
zenith sonnet
5700 = 2060 Super
5700 XT = 1080 Ti
Or something about there
ashen spindle
bit below the 1080ti
but we only saw graphs, no clue if that was with max temps are if there is more room etc.
zenith sonnet
According to their benchmarks the 3700X competes with the 9900K on many fronts
The rest of the gaming benchmakrs summed up:
Gaming-Benchmarks (Min FPS) between 65W 3700X and unlocked 9900k:
RotTR 9900K 8% faster
FC5 9900K 16% faster
Wolfenstein 2 9900K 4% slower
AC: O 9900K 3% slower
Cities Skylines 9900K 4% slower
KC: Deliverance 9900K 9% slower
ashen spindle
thank god we finally have an actual second choice
took amd ten years of intel not doing anything big but at least we got it
zenith sonnet
I think AMD offers better price/perf than Intel at any price point rn
Need more benches
reef patrol
Buying the 9900K for gaming is insanity anyhow 😄
ashen spindle
sure, but good marketing and "muh fps" still pushed sales on it
reef patrol
Or so Intel claim at least.
ashen spindle
hm?
reef patrol
I haven't seen sales of 9900K happen in our chain.
Outside of a few eSport team machines for "streeming"
The 9700K or 9400F rule here.
ashen spindle
lowercase S 
ashen spindle
reef patrol
😄
ashen spindle
also acceptable, since that brings us closer to summon the great one
reef patrol
eSporto El Grande
solar hinge
eBork games
yoMomma games
whe LoL became eSports popular, suddenly all the try harding
ashen spindle
solar hinge
when*
ashen spindle
nah I think they should be stable for a while now
ashen spindle
in sales? yes at multiple vendors
been the case at mindfactory for months now I think
well you cant get accurate data on that really unless you are amd/intel
% of cpus saled I think
so how many cpus sold in numbers, not cost, are from intel/amd
the english graph is from mindfactory, idk the chinese or whatever it is one
zenith sonnet
Japanese
I dunno the source
Yes, CPUs sold in numbers, percentages, and what SKUs were sold
The Threadripper 2990WX sells surprisingly well
ashen spindle
take a looh at your cpu if you got a slight bend in your ihs maybe
pale sigil
The terminal paste dried up.....
ashen spindle
guess it really was terminal
pale sigil
ashen spindle
dont tell me you are looking if it is curved from this angle
pale sigil
I kinda just thought I'd upload a pic
ashen spindle
ashen spindle
what
pale sigil
I'm having a severe brain fart atm
ashen spindle
yes its pull
pale sigil
I want it to pull air into the radiator
ashen spindle
but logo can be on either side, that doesnt say anything
crimson wigeon
If you're not sure you can look on the sides there might be an arrow somewhere
crimson wigeon
If not plug it in and just feel it 😃
pale sigil
The issue is that it's a pain in the ass to put this in
So if its wrong
It's gonna suck
crimson wigeon
On my Corsair fan that I've repurposed as a scuffed desk fan the logo is on the side that blows out air
crimson wigeon
Or if it turns out to be wrong just flip the connector it's just a DC motor that's how it works right
crimson wigeon
Don't bring physics into this!
ashen spindle
earnest osprey
The fan always exhausts to the side with the center supports
pale sigil
Great
No image
Something is actually wrong with my gpu
It lights up but the fans won't move
P
ashen spindle
are you sure its not just a model that has fans off below 50c or so?
if its a case with bad airflow and you usually dont ever hit that it isn't that unusual to not notice it
pale sigil
OK all good. I just had to reconnect all wires
Well considering my room temp atm
39c is goooooooooooooood
Whoooooop
My desk is an absolute mess
Still weird spikes
but a lot better
tho im not playing a game atm
ashen spindle
did you check if your ihs is flat?
ashen spindle
delid it and it'll be fixed I bet
pale sigil
when the warrenty runs out
im tempted to buy a hyper 212
and compare
see if its the actual cooler
the raidiator itself is cool
ashen spindle
I mean unless your cooler can still be rma'd I dont see what youd get from that
ashen spindle
o I thought it was an older thing already
pale sigil
nah its like a year old
golden girder
Possible delays with an input device...
At 1 kHz scan rate scans at best deleay is nearly at 0 ms and the worst at 1 ms, so in the average it's a 0.5 ms delay. With an additional polling rate for it at 1 kHz on top, it means the best would be 0 ms if the value is catched up right after the fasted possible scan, but the worst can be nearly as 2 ms, so the average is 1 ms.
scan rate | polling rate | max delay | average delay
1 kHz 1 kHz 1 + 1 ms 1 ms
0.5 kHz 1 kHz 2 + 1 ms 1.5 ms
0.5 kHz 0.5 kHz 2 + 2 ms 2 ms
0.25 kHz 0.5 kHz 4 + 2 ms 3 ms
So on average a 3 ms delay is still shorter as the refresh time of a 240 Hz monitor which is 4.17 ms. But the big question is how fast the scan rate is on a gaming mouse.
latent mural
gaming mouse is >=1 kHz
it's still nice to have lower latency even with a 60 Hz monitor
we know the mouse actually scans at >=1 kHz, not just reports at that rate, by testing
golden girder
The fastest polling rate for USB is at 1 kHz, so you can't really go faster. The new Hero sensor from Logitech should run at 400 Hz scan rate.
latent mural
where did the 400 Hz number come from? I only see 400 IPS for the Hero sensor at https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/products/gaming-mice/g502-hero-gaming-mouse.html
internal scan rate and USB polling rate are often quite different
we know nowadays that top mice behave really well with their internal scan rate
golden girder
Yes, 400 IPS aren't 400 Hz 😦
latent mural
and keyboards behave like complete shit, usually 125 Hz for "high end" mechanical keyboards, plus 10 - 40 ms extra latency on top
golden girder
Wait, 400 instructions per second are 400 Hz.
latent mural
"IPS" is inches per second in this context
golden girder
Hmm 
, there isn't any legend for it...
latent mural
right, I figured that out only by googling "mouse ips"
ashen spindle
you expect too much from a marketing page 
latent mural
"up to 400 inches per second detection speed, and up to 40G acceleration"
found by anandtech's website from google
400 Hz would be quite shocking because USB doesn't have a 400 Hz poll rate
ashen spindle
hrm on the english version of that site it's called read and tracking speed
still doesnt help to figure out what the scan rate is
golden girder
I asked about the scan rate not the polling rate. USB polling rate can be 1 kHz, 0.5 kHz, 0.25 kHz & 0.125 kHz.
latent mural
https://www.overclock.net/forum/375-mice/1603737-s3988-vs-3310-vs-3360-technical-differences.html for existing top end sensors
hero sensor has power saving features so it might be variable
golden girder
The diagram shows CTS per ms, so at the max it should be like 800 CTS / 1 ms and that should be like 800 kHz.
The graph show the variable...
wheat plume
Very old english guy searching for anime wallpaper while livestreaming FerenOS https://youtu.be/AGLvNpG6KFo?t=699
latent mural
oh, it's in English, I can read it now
https://blog.logitech.com/2019/03/29/anatomy-of-a-hero/ describes the internal scan rate of the Hero sensor
looks like they made major advances in power savings
their tech stack seems good too, minus the inevitable bugs of a new system
golden girder
So the Hero sensor has a vaiable frame rate which means there isn't a fix scan rate.
ashen spindle
/totallynoticons
pale sigil
Plasma sucks
wheat plume
I love Plasma
crimson wigeon
~/.local/share/icons or just /usr/share/icons because all users should be able to enjoy
pale sigil
I want that in my life again
But can't be assed
The main issue is the side loading bs, if you remember I tried like 7 times and had nothing but issues
wheat plume
This is manjaro plasma
With the adapta theme and kvantum configured to apply the blur to dolphin
And Luv icon pack
wheat plume
^^^
pale sigil
NoU
ashen spindle
next time I stub my toe I will blame you, just so you know it 
pale sigil
Same
@proud nacelle
@proud nacelle
@proud nacelle
@proud nacelle
@proud nacelle
@proud nacelle
@proud nacelle
Nothing.
Night
@proud nacelle
@proud nacelle
open tinsel
anyone know a fix?
plush summit
oof