especially japanese ones
#🔌│tech
zenith sonnet
Dropping below 50 FPS in a lot of scenes, with a ton of ini optimisation
latent mural
I have a vega 64 and it is too small of an upgrade imo
maybe a radeon vii if I can get one for a really good price
cheapest is 600€, which is too much imo
zenith sonnet
Dunno if/when prices will drop
latent mural
unlikely imo
and no boardpartner cards
so I would basically ahve to get some aftermarket cooling solution
zenith sonnet
It's okish loud, not too terrible, but neither pleasant
latent mural
I could get a morpheus for that
I want it as silent as possible though
and an open loop is a couple hundreds
at that point I could just get a 2080 with a good cooler
or maybe even a 2080 ti with a decent one
which will be pretty quiet
a morpheus + 2 good fans is already 100€ though
feral jolt
If I was buying a GPU it would be an evga b stock 1080 ti for 629
I dont need ray tracing and the 1080 ti is superior to the 2080 in many aspects
latent mural
rip EU customers I guess
feral jolt
Oh well you can check the evga .de for b stocks
They didnt have any 1080 tis when I looked for my German friend tho
latent mural
highest end card is a gt610
could get a 2080 for 720€ though
either gamerock premium or a phantom glh
feral jolt
Hmm that is unfortunate for you that they are sending all the b stock to USA
I've heard that the quality control on the rtx cards is worse than previous generations
feral jolt
My friend got a month out of his before it started flickering
latent mural
which they apparently fixed by now
feral jolt
His was aftermarket cooler
latent mural
then nvm
feral jolt
Apparently it's a fairly common thing
feral jolt
Screen would randomly go black for 1-5 seconds
The next one they gave him worked though he's had it for 5 months or something now
latent mural
rip
feral jolt
I was never into radeons
feral jolt
Never been in a spot where there was a better deal on a radeon
I had an 8800gt for a good 5 years
latent mural
you could get vega 64s new for 300€ here lol
latent mural
They are all sold out now afaik
zenith sonnet
AMD is certainly worth a try
Drivers are great nowadays
feral jolt
I would but I got a gsync
zenith sonnet
gg
feral jolt
So I just need AMD to stay competitive and drive down nvidia prices 
latent mural
Or get a cheaper freesync monitor, which works for both
latent mural
True
zenith sonnet
Just not as high as Nvidia
feral jolt
Already have 750 bucks into this monitor I'm not going to buy another
latent mural
Maybe it is just because the die is so tiny
And they kept a similar performance target
feral jolt
I am really considering a 3800x though
latent mural
As always wait until it is out
zenith sonnet
I'm going for 3900 or 3950,depending on what gives me better clocks
latent mural
Seems pretty promising though
zenith sonnet
Or 3800X, if it OCs to the same levels
feral jolt
Yeah I probably wouldn't upgrade until the fall
3800x seemed to me to be the same cores as the 3900x just less of them
Guess we will see though
feral jolt
My 6700k is at 4.4 
zenith sonnet
Binning is often very differently, and TPD remains the same or similar
feral jolt
4.5 brings me 15c hotter 
latent mural
When my roommate changes his rig again i'll get it back for testing how far i can push it
feral jolt
Its stable at 4.5 but no I'm not running at 75c for +100mhz
When I could run at 59c at 4.4
latent mural
Any vcore changes?
feral jolt
Idk I ran the Asus auto OC
Stress test got to 4.6 and shut down
I might need a new cooler
I'm using an old thermaltake aio from 2012
I dont trust it tbh
ashen spindle
in hindsight I wish I wouldn't have gotten my asrock mobo, it works fine and all but the bios is just bad, I'm not even sure which options are the right voltage for cpu etc. so I only oc'ed it on stock settings 
feral jolt
I think I'm sticking with Asus for mobos
latent mural
Aio cooler?
latent mural
Oh, ok
feral jolt
I think I'm gonna switch to a noctua air cooler soon but the model I wanted is unavailable
Can't find out if they are ever coming back in stock
ashen spindle
what model?
feral jolt
It was the 120 mm 2000 rpm one
UT12a or something
U12a
I was ready to buy it and poof all gone
latent mural
They will make new versions of every cooler
Knowing noctua it could take like 6 month until they come out though
feral jolt
If they ship to US I might buy it
Maybe I should look harder. Some smaller retailers could still have a few in stock here
plush summit
Just grab an AMD chip
wheat plume
Spotify looking goooooooddddd
pale sigil
My eyes burn
crimson wigeon
use zypper
unique schooner
eww
pale sigil
pacman is lame
plush summit
oof
plush summit
^^^^
one of the labs in class was to download and install packages manualy with no package manager
kms
zenith sonnet
Stupid Android 9 refuses to update apps when I have a VPN active
Even though I'm connected on Wifi to my home router...
What the fuck?
Yeah
I can just disable the VPN to update
But it's still weird
plush summit
the beginning of this video https://youtu.be/GZwldNliKbI
pale sigil
Not that I'm complaining
But the other day I bought a smart switch with energy tracking
I got a message saying give us your amazon order for a free gift, after I did they told me to buy this new £27 duo plug they just released and they'll refund the order via PayPal.
That's pretty dope but why?
Is this a known thing?
Of never mind, it's part of a testing program.
Still awesome
"Hi We got smart plug for testing.
How to take part in the program?
- Buy the new arrival product (no need to return) on Amazon.
- Then send me the payment proof and we guarantee to refund to your Paypal within 2 working day
If you are cool with the process. Please do not hesitate to contact me."
Well
I mean
I could just return it
Lol
Also Mi8 128gb £299
Ye but I'm worried it's gonna be like £500
Also Mi8 is a no no
Just saw the notch 
fleet basin
Extremely long shot... anyone very familiar with the Android boot process? Specifically, when during boot /data/cache is writeable and if it's possible to create /data/cache/.disable_magisk because I'm bootlooping (technically crashing back to the bootloader, and then to a "you may be corrupt" screen.. stock bootloader works fine) and there's no twrp available yet for this phone XD I've tried a few ways and haven't got it working, so I'm wondering if there's something I'm missing... latest attempt was a write /data/cache/.disable_magisk 1 between the triggers for pre-boot and boot using the otherwise stock bootloader, but that didn't appear to work. Hard to verify...
pale sigil
Well that's disappointing
9t is snapdragon 730
Hmmm
Apparently it has similar in benchmarks
pale sigil
Well M9T in Spain atm £270
I'm really tempted
As I know the UK version will be much more
I'm so desperate for a new phone that doesn't have a notch ;-;
Then again it would me a downgrade really
fleet basin
Wasn't sure where lol
zenith sonnet
Is RDNA part of GCN, or replace GCN?
Nvm, new arch
Ryzen 3000 seems to support 3600 MHz RAM, and up to 5000+ on certain boards ;o
ashen spindle
RDNA is „ New“ but the 5700 cards will still have some parts of GCN
And apparently ryzen does work with such high speed mem kits but you get negative scaling beyond 3733MHz from what I’ve heared
GCN is also not per se bad but just scales bad for gaming, for machine learning it’ll still be the better uArch
latent mural
yea
zenith sonnet
WHY
ashen spindle
Bc only x570 is there at Launch, no B Series of so for the lower end. And it doesn’t cost them much to make one version with and one without WiFi for example
zenith sonnet
Reeeeeeeeeeeee
Can we fast forward to October so all the new hardware is out and I can just pick the best?
zenith sonnet
Well, X570 chipset is supposedly freaking expensive, 40$ alone
Nothing any more, I hope
September is Ryzen 3950X
ashen spindle
Ah forgot it launches later
zenith sonnet
Dunno if I should wait
It might not add much value over the 3900X
And cost 300€ more
zenith sonnet
Do we need computers at all?
warped dove
I just wanna redeem my 40¢ product key, how am i supposed to decide
warped dove
1 navi card + electricity + a tent = warmth enough to survive northern European winters
zenith sonnet
Navi is barely a hand warmer
What's the release date of the 3950X?
Aww, no final date yet
inb4 13th of September
Wait, no, 12th 🤔
zenith sonnet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN3HjuD3Xxs
Image enhancing tech opposed to DLSS?
Lower latency?
Oh
The latency stuff is part of the E3 show
Time to watch the second half, lol
FidelityFX on the VII pls D:
ashen spindle
yea I dont trust the latency stuff
zenith sonnet
I do
You get similar numbers by going from Windowed to Borderless Window and again to Exclusive Fullscreen
ashen spindle
I'm suspicious of it being noticeable. Time to send up is usually not the largest factor anyway (< 1 frame) compared to general input device -> rendered frame or the physical screen blit, both of which could be multiple frames.
zenith sonnet
If they somehow managed to leverage out the increased lag from the Windows DWMs Vsync, that's a possible way to do it
ashen spindle
on another note
wccftech so take it with a grain of salt, but we might see something on the 21st
zenith sonnet
Cause let's be honest, there isn't enough space between a 2070 and a 2080, to add a 2070 Ti or a 2070 Super, without it either being a meaningless upgrade, or straight up replacing the 2080
ashen spindle
well going by this it would be a refresh so they previous versions would fade out and not get produced
zenith sonnet
I think i may have to wait for September after all D:
harsh terrace
Don't want to use this channel as tech support but, whenever I open my start menu (Windows 10) my whole PC starts lagging, it freezes for 3-5 seconds continuously
Any ides what causes that?
warped dove
Well tiles in your win 10 start menu can be THICC with animations and live data. The live data part could be networking related. Hide or unintall things that you don't use, you might suddenly solve it. - probably not though, win10 is a ****show
harsh terrace
Well I removed all tiles, unsure about some apps
warped dove
Your probably will most likely be randomly and quietly fixed by a win10 update some times. I feel like the age of resolving your own problems in windows is dead...
So, same laggeroos?
harsh terrace
Yep
warped dove
The menu also has translucency, rendering that could be the problem
look into disabling transparency
Kill cortana will fire and fury
warped dove
Impossible. She's in there somewhere, wasting resources of your computer.
Scroll all the way down the list of programs and look for a strangely named or unnamed entry
zenith sonnet
Try rebooting?
warped dove
Kill the process called Com Surrogate through taskmanger
(this will make windows and some other apps sad)
Close anything that draws over other apps like flux or windows nightlight
^ ye was gona say too
zenith sonnet
How much RAM do you have?
warped dove
disable igpu / multiGPU through motherboard if using a discrete card
harsh terrace
16 GB, my CPU doesn't have igpu
zenith sonnet
All I can find are issues with VM softwares
harsh terrace
I tried restarting you driver and ended up with a bluescreen
warped dove
It sounds like a rendering issue, the menu is being throttled to communicating with the graphics accelerator. That's often the symptom of such lag when using VMs
zenith sonnet
The com surrogate?
Lol, that's a system process, Windows doesn't work without it
warped dove
Not true ; )
Windows will start it back up when it needs it and other unwanted apps will immediately crash when you kill it. For some reason doing this fixes a lag issue I have on ARMA 3 . Software is fucking crazy man
zenith sonnet
You should try fixing the buggy .dll's, not killing Windows Processes
warped dove
Yes I -should- but as you see by googling literally any issue as you just did, the journey to finding a solution is insanely long, fruitless and tedious these days edit: and solutions not even guaranteed :/
Anyways Dommy when you don't fiddling with everything also try fixing your registry using CCleaner or Little Registry Cleaner
harsh terrace
Tried before
Even cleared search indexes
I'll try deleting all shortcuts from start once home
plush summit
warped dove
Come back to firefox : )
ashen spindle
you mean performance per watt?
first google result btw
zenith sonnet
Mildly shady
zenith sonnet
Wikipedia doesn't really help
Since they only list TDP
Well, at least it's sorta accurate for AMD
plush summit
I wouldn't be surprised the lower TDP chips provide better performance-per-watt
TDP
zenith sonnet
Intel's TDP isn't even close to real world power consumption
plush summit
Wait what is a t p d or t d p
zenith sonnet
TDP
plush summit
And even then that's not the Waters of the CPU that's the amount of heat supposed to output
zenith sonnet
Thermal Design Power
plush summit
Wattage*
zenith sonnet
Right
Well, on AMD parts, it's usually within margin of error for a full load
Intel uses only base load to calculate TDP
Every CPU gets better perf/watt by undervolting
So, the best might be a heavily undervolted Zen 2?
ashen spindle
I mean now youre comparing chips that fundamentally work differently so idk what the point is of that
the best would be a custom chip only having the pipelines needed for the task that is used for comparison on the most efficent node
ashen spindle
¯_(ツ)_/¯
plush summit
@proud nacelle arn chips would be the best
ashen spindle
I mean
what are the requiremenmts for it to work
like if there is something that requires me to give it admin rights for example, I dont care if there are 2 or 2 million ways to do so,
if this again is something that abuses what another thing already does but differently, I don't really see the issue in that sense
just like I dont care if intel or amd have more spectre/meltdown issues
it's either 0 or not 0 in my eyes
pale sigil
I had my fire stick so much
It’s dogshit slow
Anyone got any suggestions for kodi sticks
Reasonable price
Because I’m ducking sick of this
Takes half an hour just to navigate to one show
latent mural
Wat
zenith sonnet
Can't check rn
But read something like that yesterday
And well, I can see why...
Their drivers are plain awesome nowadays
5700 XT is awesome
3950X even more
feral jolt
anyone here well versed in RAM knowledge?
i think my ram is my current bottleneck for framerate in unreal 4 games
i only play squad
just started reading and realized i have 2 single rank 2666 dimms which is probably a massive bottleneck
thinking of getting 2 dual rank 3200's
spark horizon
I'm kind of wary of the 5700xt until I see more third party tests
feral jolt
im running a 6700k currently
spark horizon
coz nvidia seems positioned to just drop the prices on their non super cards anyway
they def murdering it in the cpu market tho
zenith sonnet
AMD has plenty of margin to play with
Also, any two same memory sticks can run dual rank
You either have a bad bios setting or one of them is in the wrong slot, consult your motherboard's manual
@feral jolt
feral jolt
some sticks run dual rank inside the stick
i have 2 ranks of ram from 2 sticks
but i could have 4 with 2 sticks that are dual rank
which i hear is very beneficial
zenith sonnet
Only if they are two sided
And no, your CPU can't run quad rank afaik
I have my 5820k running quad, but with 4 sticks
What's much more limiting is latency
Bandwidth is plenty for games with dual rank
feral jolt
2 ranks per channel for the 6700k
dual channel obviously so i can fit another 2 ranks in there
zenith sonnet
Huh, guess I messed up channels and ranks
Anyway, I don't see how much ranks improves latency
And bandwidth should be fine
feral jolt
yeah its a weird thing that nobody knows about i just found out about it today
doubling the bandwith by doubling the ranks is supposed to make a huge difference
zenith sonnet
Depends on the task, really
Most are latency sensitive
Few are bandwidth sensitive
feral jolt
i play squad its pretty demanding and likely more bandwidth sensitive
unreal 4 game with a lot going on at once
idk what i could use to watch my memory bandwidth as i play to confirm this suspicion though
zenith sonnet
My feeling is that you sacrifice latency to increase bandwidth, by losing the ability to read and write by coupling ranks or something?
feral jolt
latency is more related to frequency i think
because as frequency gets faster the latency numbers go higher
because 3200mhz c16 ram and 1600mhz c8 ram would actually have the same latency
3200 tick cycles are twice as fast
zenith sonnet
Right
But often going higher frequency costs you latency past a certain point
Because you need to loosen timing too much to get it stable
You can probably find 3200 C14 or something nowadays
Which seems to be the optimum for gaming
feral jolt
c14 dies are all single rank unfortunately
this was the article that made me think it might be more important to have the ranks
looks like a way better minimum fps from having 4 ranks
frame dips are killer
like i literally get killed from having frame dips in squad on a regular basis
zenith sonnet
News to me, I'll read uo when I'm home
But before buying new RAM, I'd also consider moving to Ryzen 3000 in your place
Which has at least an equal benefit
feral jolt
well. its not out yet. and unfortunately squad is still super dependent on single core performance. and if i bought ram it would be able to be transferred to the new mobo/cpu
latent mural
I mean look up if other people have similar problems
I know pubg had problems with slow hard drives
feral jolt
the single core performance of the 3800x does look about 20% better than my 6700k from what i've seen so thats gonna be nice
i have an m.2 3000r/w drive
latent mural
if you plan on going AMD then get fast memory for sure
feral jolt
im preferably waiting another generation to upgrade tbh
600 bucks for a 20% faster core speed is not that practical
latent mural
AMD seems t obe doing a tick tock rn
feral jolt
the 3800x is supposed to be around 400 then another 200 for a mobo
feral jolt
my friend currently plays squad on a 2700x and gets about 20% peak cpu usage because it isnt optimized for 8 cores
latent mural
rip
not bottlenecked by gpu?
you can't compare single core performance directly anyways
since some tasks prefer amd or intel
latent mural
what do you have currently?
feral jolt
980 ti
feral jolt
im just thinking the ram is responsible for my low minimum fps
feral jolt
xmp is on
feral jolt
its not great ram
i bought it during the great ram sham of 2018 so i bought the cheapest available
160 dollars for 2 8gb sticks of 2666
latent mural
rip
feral jolt
patriot el cheapo
latent mural
got my kit when I ugraded to my 6600k
hyperx fury
but the cheapest I could get
with 16gb
was 90€ lol
zenith sonnet
Now is probably the worst possible moment up upgrade anything
feral jolt
i bought this 6700k off my friend and he refused to sell me his ram because the prices were awful
latent mural
ye
feral jolt
dont think ryzen 3000 will support it
latent mural
not sure myself
maybe with a new board lineup
board partners seem to be ptimistic about x570, so maybe
zenith sonnet
Desktop will use DDR4 this gen
3600 support seems baseline, OCs can reach 5000+
Although that's extreme OC territory
But it's the best single threaded performance on the market by a decent margin
If AMDs slides are honest
Well, it was cinebench I think?
Which usually even favours Intel
feral jolt
i heard that they claimed a 15% increase in single core speed when the reality was 11%
not sure on how correct that is
zenith sonnet
If you can find good DDR4 3600 or 4000 today, it's probably a good buy, but compatibility lists for Ryzen aren't out yet, so you'd imit your choice on boards
They beat a 9920K by 14% single core and 6% multicore
With the 3900X, which is almost a third the price
3950X just destroys Intels lineup
3800X is probably going to be the best mainstream CPU for a long time
feral jolt
yeah i dont need the extra cores so 3800x is gonna be my most likely upgrade
zenith sonnet
Even a 3600X will be decent, if you're out to save a few bucks
3700X has two cores more, but lower frequency
So unless you OC, it might be a worse choice
feral jolt
dont want the 3600 since its not an upgrade at the single core level
zenith sonnet
It is
feral jolt
over a 6700k? not that ive seen
zenith sonnet
Single core it's on par with the higher tiers at the same frequency
Just has less cores
latent mural
you can't directly compare clocks
zenith sonnet
What clock is your 6700K running at?
feral jolt
for single core performance
multicore the ryzen 3000s would shred my 6700k
i guess i was looking at stats for the 3600 not the 3600x
latent mural
it all depends on tasks anyways
zenith sonnet
I meant single
latent mural
even then
some tasks favor intel/AMD
not as bad as with gpus
still matters though
feral jolt
yeah and unfortunately everyone is building MORE CORES instead of faster cores
latent mural
they get faster though
at least for AMD
intel currently mostly pushes it with higher clocks
zenith sonnet
Wonder how long intel can keep this up
Zen 3 and 4 might bring more heavy IPC uplifts
zenith sonnet
Navi surprised me
It's better than I expected
Seems to handily beat the 2070, and even the 2080 in select titles
And it sits uncomfortably close to my VII
And I'm sort of doubting Nvidia's Super...
There's no info on it, other than speculation and rumours
They deliberately waited for AMD to announce their lineup, to think up an response
They probably only hinted Super to make it look like it was ready long before
latent mural
especially the price
zenith sonnet
I'd buy it for the price, if I hadn't upgraded yet
latent mural
if I wanted an upgrade and didn't have something not lacking behind much, definetley yes
let's hope sapphire makes a good non limited version
zenith sonnet
Eh, that's almost a given
zenith sonnet
Wonder how many of the new features the old cards will get
FidelityFX sounds interesting
But with it being post processing, it may easily degrade images
There's few post processing, that doesn't
And then the latency thing
Still curious about what they did
Still suspect is decreases or eliminates DWMs latency hit
zenith sonnet
So I came to the realisation that cooling something takes much less power than I thought
To keep a system that draws 350W under high gaming load to Ambient, you may not even need 100W
I dunno how those things scale at this point
🤔
I could live with the power draw, but I'm wondering where you'd even find the parts
Well, technically, I guess you'd just have to push the water through a cooling loop after the radiator
Probably more difficult with air cooling
1903 supposedly fixes the issues Windows scheduler had with Ryzen
Meaning Gen 1 and 2 can see significant gains too
pale sigil
I really need a new phone 😦
wheat plume
Pixel 3A XL
pale sigil
To expensive
wheat plume
it is out in the EU
pale sigil
Not the pro
wheat plume
why is the Mi A2 Lite better in everyway than the Mi A2 other than CPU? -.-
3010mAh is crappy but the Lite has 4000mAh battery
but I prefer to have no notch and a better CPU :/
wheat plume
yup
wheat plume
I wonder will the Mi A2 get Android Q?
dont android One phones come with 3 years of updates? or does that depend on the brand pushing them out?
pale sigil
Brand
wheat plume
cause I know in the EU the Nokia 7 Plus barely got the Pie upgrade despite being Android One
Android One, fails to do the job it was meant to do ://
wheat plume
The battery life is decent if you dont plan to use it day in and out as a wifi router
pale sigil
How big is it again
wheat plume
it lasted me all day Monday with about 14% to spare and most of the day it was taking photos and videos and also trying to reconnect to phone signal cause where I was there was barely any signal strength
It is 3400mAh
pale sigil
I just want a bezeless phone
wheat plume
How much is the Mix 3 for you?
pale sigil
Also does the mix 2s not have a selfie cam?
wheat plume
it does
you could not sell a phone without a freaking front camera man
youd be murdered in your sleep
pale sigil
Mi mix 3 isn't much
wheat plume
get that over the 2S if you can
its a much better phone
less bezels
slidy fun stuff
OLED screen
pale sigil
Oh that's the slide up one
wheat plume
better screen + MIUI 10 black theme = battery saving
btw, the Mi 2S does have a front camera
wheat plume
They compete within their own brand
pale sigil
Mi 8 would be decent but the damn notch
wheat plume
it is odd
pale sigil
I simply cannot stand it
wheat plume
mm ;-;
you cna hide it in software
and it rounds the corners too for you
to match the bottom corners
pale sigil
Cos that's logical
wheat plume
yeh
you dont wanna have that uneven corner rounding
top with no rounding and the bottom with it
pale sigil
Honestly the mi mix 2a feels like the obvious choice or the mi 9t
But the 9t has a weaker cpu
Know any other companies etc 😄
feral jolt
Is the galaxy s10 a bad buy
pale sigil
Yes
feral jolt
Whys that
feral jolt
They are on sale right now and I was thinking it's time to upgrade my s5
pale sigil
Because it's overpriced
solar hinge
@wheat plume i just need xiaomi to confirm to me that the mi mix 4 will or will not be a slider phone like the mi mix 3 and if they sell via tmobile netherlands
otherwise i'll be getting the new one plus 😄
pale sigil
The aids thing is warrenty when buying from china
wheat plume
I hate the ONE UI on Samsing phones
solar hinge
nah, they sell in normal store heres
wheat plume
I always hated samsung software
solar hinge
@pale sigil
pale sigil
No
solar hinge
i just need it to be in tmobile stores
wheat plume
Quinn, The Mix 4 will likely have an under display front camera
solar hinge
ah yes, but most are sold here via normal stores
wheat plume
Because the already have a prototype
solar hinge
i want the slidey phone 😢
wheat plume
SAMME ;-;
pale sigil
Yes but you won't get a 2 year warrenty
solar hinge
ow and in screen finger print reader
feral jolt
How is battery life on those xiaomi
wheat plume
Pretty decent tbh
solar hinge
we do here @pale sigil
wheat plume
its very agressive to background processes so if you want to keep an app always running you need to tell it to not restrict battery life
feral jolt
It's generally my biggest concern is the battery. If I dont get a whole day off a charge a phone is worthless to me
feral jolt
But how long will that last with current battery tech?
pale sigil
My concern is battery life also
wheat plume
I spent Monday taking photos and on reddit and taking videos and also it spent a few hours constantly looking for phone signal to connect to
and I had 14% when I got home at 9
latent mural
@pale sigil I can buy a Mi mix 3 in normal electronic stores here
wheat plume
left the house at 7am with 90%
pale sigil
Ye I never said you couldn't
pale sigil
That's decent though
feral jolt
I've ate through several batteries on the s5 and they dont make new ones so if I buy a "new" one it's been sitting for 5 years and is noticeably weaker
wheat plume
^^^
latent mural
better battery tech will degrade less
new samsung phones will have less problems
after the note 7 they increased their battery tech
feral jolt
Why can't they just use universal replacement batteries. Damn capitalists
zenith sonnet
How much do they degrade nowadays?
Numbers I have from 9 years ago were like 10% per year
pale sigil
Because it needs sealing
wheat plume
Simple penetration is a great theme
pale sigil
For water resistance
zenith sonnet
Charging was the bigger issue
pale sigil
Once the seal is broken it's fucked
latent mural
yep
feral jolt
10% a year seems like a huge lowball
latent mural
you can make them last much longer with good charge cycles
nah, was pretty normal 9 years ago
pale sigil
Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 the battery sucks ass
latent mural
nowadays they should underrate batteries by like 20%
and don't charge them above the rated capacity
solar hinge
@wheat plume on my redmi note 4x i upgrades to miui 10.2 (chinese rom) and now the "easy to install" google play stuff doesn't work anymore :'(
due to this i have been hesitant to update my daily driver, the mi 5 pro as i don't want it to fuck up 😦 so can't use the new battery shit stuff
feral jolt
I had a 5800 mah battery for my s5
Was nice for about 2 years until it was worse than a stock battery
pale sigil
My next phone I'm gonna power off the plug at 80%
feral jolt
Eh that one lasted the longest for me. I'm on my 4th battery
pale sigil
No, long lasting vibrators
solar hinge
i just want the new phone to be retro slidey slidey
pale sigil
Any other none bezel and notch phones people can suggest
solar hinge
the new one plus
pale sigil
But it's overpriced
latent mural
for half price
pale sigil
I can't risk the 1 year warrenty
latent mural
I'll buy from an european importer
pale sigil
And it lacks band 20
latent mural
and it won't be a problem
pale sigil
That's not true though?
latent mural
they have a minimum warranty
pale sigil
No
The 2 years is manufacture watrenty
Not seller
Though apparently eglobal offers 24 months warrenty
Damn I didn't know
solar hinge
here we have 2 years seller warranty
pale sigil
Yes you've said a million times
pale sigil
Because we are not sheeps who buy Samsung
latent mural
I like samsung
latent mural
they are expensive though
solar hinge
technically
latent mural
I had multiple chinese phones in the past
solar hinge
as i had a samsung note 2 duos
latent mural
and they only had slight problems
solar hinge
which was not available outside of china :p
latent mural
which likely have resolved by now
pale sigil
I really like the mi mix 2s tbh
solar hinge
not everything is solved :p
solar hinge
screen?
pale sigil
Not oled
latent mural
the mi mix 2 s had a bottom camera?
if you ever want to use the camera you will be annoyed
pale sigil
I Mexer use it
Never
Tbh I don't like worrying about screen burn
So it does make it temping
Because it's not coming out I'm the EU
latent mural
is there no mi 9t pro?
pale sigil
Nope
solar hinge
isn't the mi 9t the k20?
solar hinge
Xiaomi Mi 9T announced: It's the Redmi K20 for European users
pale sigil
At less spec
latent mural
the 9t is the k20
not the k20 pro
there apparently will be a mi 9t pro
and also a pocophone f2 pro
latent mural
yea
pale sigil
Can't stand it
latent mural
same
latent mural
the mi mix 4 is like 500+
solar hinge
as long as i can get it via tmobile i don't care
i get 150 euros for one time payment and then up to 75 euros per month 😄
pale sigil
What ever happened to the mi mix edgeless brand
solar hinge
perhaps look at second hand?
pale sigil
No
Hell no
I'm honestly leaning towards the mi mix 2s
I'd consider the mix 3
But battery
Right now I have £150 from old phone sale + some other stuff and £150 of my own money
But the mix 3 is £370 -_-
wheat plume
Mix 2S is still plenty powerful
pale sigil
Exactly why I'm trying to keep my budget insanely low
Which is where the mi mix 2s comes in
At £270 so £120 out of my own pocket
warped dove
So the Google pixel has 2 main cameras, this is huge news for the GCam software for getting google image processing on all multi-lens android smartphones.
'bought time, google
pale sigil
I could get a mi 9t
solar hinge
the cpu is far from bad though
pale sigil
It's a 730
solar hinge
same as the k20
pale sigil
K20 Pro is what I wanted
solar hinge
ah the pro you wanted
pale sigil
I think I'm gonna get a mix 2s
solar hinge
did you see my earlier message @wheat plume :p
warped dove
730 best processor right now. Has new AI chip and wifi6 ready. 855 is for gamers.
Only problem is everyone is skimping on the UFS memory version for 730s, apart from on the samsung A80
pale sigil
How is it better tho
warped dove
I just said
pale sigil
So you're telling me if I got the 730 I'd get better performance than the 845
Even if it's not Samsung
wheat plume
it is just as fast in normal usage
warped dove
Depends on task but why would you care? It's fast enough for all the dumb mobile games
wheat plume
my 660 was fast enough to play PUBG
pale sigil
Want the best for my money
wheat plume
sadly Fortnite is limited to 30fps for some reason on Android so with the 845 I have it is a stipid experience
pale sigil
I could have got it at amazon Spain for £290 but it's out of stock
latent mural
tbh you can get better performance out of a 730
pale sigil
Fortnite 
wheat plume
i wanted a heavy game to test on my phone
and when I found out it was locked to 30 I got pissed
pale sigil
Sureeeeee
warped dove
All respect lost
pale sigil
Disgusting
warped dove
delet. solid state memory undergoes constant shifting-around of data so clogging it up with junk shortens yo card lifespan ; )
^ these are the kind of knows that get you the "best for your money", not just buying the biggest numbers on paper
pale sigil
Damn I feel stupid
wheat plume
pale sigil
I could have got the 9t for £285
solar hinge
acne?
warped dove
^ one of those exploding phones. Oh wait dats samsung
latent mural
you mean the iphone 6 plus?
pale sigil
I'll wait a bit
zenith sonnet
Still wondering what display to buy
Or which are releasing soon D:
wheat plume
I wann try it ;-;
crimson wigeon
The only kind of slider I want in a phone is of the keyboard variety
crimson wigeon
https://www.fxtec.com/ too bad this thing is out of my phone budget
wheat plume
it comes with a case
wheat plume
o?
latent mural
that keyboard looks uncomfortable to use
yea
drops on top
screen slides out because of inertia
ehh
drops on bottom I mean
wheat plume
yeh
latent mural
and then you have a 3mm piece of glass dropping on the floor
wheat plume
3mm glasS?
latent mural
btw, have g305 now
very nice mouse
well, yea
glass + screen etc
is somewhere between 2-3mm just from looking at it
wheat plume
hm
solar hinge
what do you mean?
latent mural
They wanted gmail to be a telecommunication company
Which would allow them to look at all user information at will
solar hinge
ahh
latent mural
Was in front of the european court
solar hinge
then it's not covered under letter confidentiallity stuff?
latent mural
Letter confidentiallity doesn't exist in germany anymore
As well as the bank secret
it does exist
but they can bypass it if they suspect you in any case
solar hinge
hmmm
feral jolt
i use this firefox addon called adnauseum that "clicks" all adds while simultaneously hiding them and stopping them from tracking me
so the websites i visit get money for my "clicks"
pale sigil
Just use temp containers
No cookies or tracking outside of the container
Each new domain or tab creates a new container
pale sigil
WELPPPPPPPPP
wheat plume
oooo :DD
pale sigil
Note: the deal atm is if you order now
it will be reduced
to about 285 pounds
before it ships out or something
wheat plume
oooohhh ! alright then
pale sigil
offer in question
the MI 9t pro is being released
apparently
but i dont wanna dish out more
i really hope the 730 is as decent
as people say
pale sigil
is the 730sd 5g compat?
pale sigil
oh noes
wheat plume
Yes 3.....this is DEFINETLY 4G.... -.-
wheat plume
sd card slot?
pale sigil
nope
ash shit
it doesn't have wireless charging
the only issue i have with budget phones these days
is the fact they are so far behind in screen res
wheat plume
if it has NFC it should have wireless charging right?
wheat plume
i know
latent mural
why should if have both if it has one?
wheat plume
not sure
crimson wigeon
So behind in screen res? Oh, 1080p AMOLED..
crimson wigeon
Technically higher resolution than the AMOLED tho
wheat plume
no....
latent mural
is it really 2015 though?
crimson wigeon
Yes, pretty much all phone AMOLEDs have the shitty RGBG subpixel layout, so only green is the advertised resolution, red and blue is halved
wheat plume
hmmm
crimson wigeon
It's why things like small text can look a bit jaggy
latent mural
I mean at that time samsung had 1440p in their flagship
latent mural
@crimson wigeon I can't notice a difference between 1080p or 1440p on my galaxy s8
wheat plume
they could have put the top thingy to the right side....to make it symetrical :/
crimson wigeon
Mmm, eye magic
crimson wigeon
And the reason for that shitty subpixel layout is because human eyes are more receptive to greens than other colours hence why you don't really notice those other colours having less resolution
crimson wigeon
Yes because when phone VR was still the in meme I put my brand spanking new AMOLED OnePlus 3T in my Loop VR and it was garbo compared to my old LCD LG G2
latent mural
tbh VR is hard to do
crimson wigeon
And I do notice text being a bit ugly with colour fringing and such
latent mural
even with a real HMD you get screen door like hell
pale sigil
weeb
wheat plume
I meant the macOS theme
wheat plume
;-;
wheat plume
indeed
pale sigil
Now I just need to wait 7 days
pale sigil
Fingerprint is behind the screen yes
warped dove
Sounds like my Toshiba 2TB is ill, never had a hard drive fail before but its getting louder. Everything personal is on backblaze.
Is using TeraCopy file copying software to "copy paste" over 1.3TB of all kinds of personal and mostly games media to my unused Seagate in one action too ambitious? xD I'd love to see the time elapsed.
wheat plume
Oh damn
Sounds like a huge task for a failing drive to do
warped dove
Really hard to define failing. It could be fine for a year more but it sounds like shit.
wheat plume
Ah...ok
warped dove
Has used less than 5% of its reserved back up sectors for detected errors. Support defines this is grounds for replacement but they'll just send me another refurbed drive. Either way I'll have to shift everything. Should be a lot faster than downloading 1TB of stuff again...
wheat plume
Definitely
warped dove
I say should because windows copy paste grinds to a halt with many small files but there's software to accelerate such tasks.
wheat plume
I noticed that before
You copy a large file in windows and it stops randomly
warped dove
You mean directory, or single file?
wheat plume
Single file
pale sigil
I'm scared about using quick charged lol
warped dove
Haven't moved one large file in a long time tbh...
plush summit
XD
warped dove
I wonder if there exists a tool to test whether a hard drive carries the dependencies for anything important of your computer...
So that I can test disconnecting it before other actions
For Windows 10 as it would obviously be platform specific
ashen spindle
besides hot sawpping it while running your programs you deem important I cant think of anything specific right now
wheat plume
Ahhh ..
pale sigil
Now listen up
warped dove
^ kek
wheat plume
Here's a story
pale sigil
I was kidding XD
wheat plume
Tehe
wheat plume
Oo
pale sigil
Why the O.o
pale sigil
No surprise
pale sigil
It's only a matter of time Linux takes over
One of our uni labs is exclusively Linux
Kbuntu
feral jolt
i'd use linux if it was more common for games to run on it
i clean install windows every couple months, i really prefer simplicity
pale sigil
Can run almost all games now.
feral jolt
im not finding any evidence that squad runs on linux
pale sigil
It's on steam right?
feral jolt
yeah
ashen spindle
pale sigil
Then it can run ^
ashen spindle
but you cant run multiplayer as of right now
bc EAC doesnt really work with it yet
feral jolt
yeah theres no single player to the game besides the test range so thats not gonna work for me
i dont need a VAC ban
pale sigil
Gonna be aids for cases and glass screen
zenith sonnet
I'm having a good time with the OP3
So unless one of the other phones had a feature I want that the OP7 Pro is missing, or was of a general better quality, I'd probably go with that
wheat plume
🔥 🦊
wheat plume
o?
pale sigil
eh it was a shitty wire
wheat plume
hm
latent mural
it is just the beta
pale sigil
I know