🔌│tech

[digital pewter]

Also really you could just download large isos from some high speed mirrors and see how long it takes

[sick creek]

Oh im not worried about it

I get 110MB+ on usenet

Which is around 900Mb+

I just thought it was funny

“Good”

Not excellent. Not amazing. Not fantastic. “Good”

Insert Obama “not bad” meme here

[wet walrus]

"That's fair"

[reef patrol]

Usenet. I haven't heard that name in a decade.

[solar hinge]

usenet is still wildly popular in the netherlands

[sick creek]

it's still the best/fastest way to erm... get news

and linux isos

[urban salmon]

Linux tech tips

[timid chasm]

what a fun start to the day

It's been acting weird for a while

[fallow bison]

[timid chasm]

Never full screen like that though. It's always just been a vertical piece of the monitor

once its on for a bit it goes back to normal

the vertical issue would happen on certain colors too, like orange and yellow 🤷

[pale sigil]

RMA time

[timid chasm]

It's way past that

[pale sigil]

😦 shit

[solar hinge]

it's probably a capacitor that fudged it

i've had it with an old monitor before and a friend of mine fixed it :p

[latent mural]

try to rma it first though

as long as you can

[pale sigil]

I got my monitor in 2014

Still going strong

[latent mural]

if they see you opened it and messed with the caps you won't get a refund/replacement

[solar hinge]

i've got one from 2009? (or somewhere there)

[latent mural]

ehh

[solar hinge]

so yeah, waiting for it to die before getting a new one 😄

[pale sigil]

Oh I have one from 2010 I still use as my second

Everyday

21.5" xD

[latent mural]

my oldest is from 2009

my second

[pale sigil]

Before that I was using 4:3

[latent mural]

third is a much worse asus one from 2014

[solar hinge]

yeah my new one is from 2018 and that one from 2009'ish and one that i do not know, because i "borrowed" it from a friend and i still have it, 5 years later 😄

[latent mural]

LG 29UM69G is still bae for me

and you can get it for 200€ new

[pale sigil]

Before that was ugh good olde crt

[solar hinge]

Lenovo has a great 1440P one that we use at work

they're great

CRT

ctr(l) :p

[pale sigil]

I type words backwards sometimes

I'll let you figure out why

[solar hinge]

then it would be TRC

[pale sigil]

Ok letters the wrong order

[solar hinge]

:p

[pale sigil]

Better?

[solar hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/mrspeaker-order-brexit-nodeal-may-gif-13286953

[pale sigil]

Owwwddaaaaa

[solar hinge]

he's amazing :p

[wheat plume]

Too bad I couldn't get discord and Minecraft to work on zorin ;_;

But at least it's still made in Ireland 😍 although it's Dublin ;_;

[zenith sonnet]

My second is a Samsung PLS QHD from 2009, still going strong, but the colours degrade some with the years

Gonna replace it soon, though
If I actually buy the Aorus...

Still wondering if the poor Overdrive is a dealbreaker or not

[pale sigil]

Ew im going to be forced to use an IPhone.

[zenith sonnet]

Eww

Please leave

[pale sigil]

Im selling my phone and i dont have a replacement for it yet.

lol

[plush summit]

There's still no way for me to root my phone

In a couple years now and there's still no method out

[pale sigil]

Anyone got any suggestions as of the best way to see if my hardware is fucked? (CPU and GPU)

ye but like which ones

would people suggest

[ashen spindle]

furmark

aida64

[pale sigil]

to poor for furmark

[ashen spindle]

firestrike

[pale sigil]

wait no i was thinking of the wrong software

[ashen spindle]

ah yeah forgot about prime

[pale sigil]

Discord rules

shhh

So furmark for gpu

i stutter so much

in all games

its becoming a huge issue

yes

[ashen spindle]

what cpu/cpu do you have?

[pale sigil]

7700k 1070ti

[ashen spindle]

also look at thermals with Hwinfo 64

[pale sigil]

my temps are super great

but when i game i ramp my fans up

temps? they aren't super great in the bios

[ashen spindle]

I mean all temps, could also be VRM temps on the gpu or mainboard etc.

[pale sigil]

Now i thoought about this

that it could be my cooler

But like

[ashen spindle]

just let hwinfo run when you play the next time

and you'll know the peak temps everything reached

[pale sigil]

i literally went from a H80 that was faulty and to a H100i and the temps barely improved

[ashen spindle]

could be a lot

[pale sigil]

just running Discord, netflix and browsers

in general its warm in my room rn

so take that into account

[ashen spindle]

I assume its not delided? could be a bad IHS curving

did you make sure paste between cooler and cpu is fine?

[pale sigil]

its showing slightly different C than cortsair link

and yes i did

i replaced it

[ashen spindle]

I'd trust hwinfo over basically every other software

[pale sigil]

i set the fan curves up more, rnt hey are running at 2500rpm

the radiator itself is cool

everything is

first thing i do

i only have 3 start up programs

i always turn off HW Acceleration

very random

it can spike dramically

[ashen spindle]

hw accell usually just puts load on GPU anyway

[pale sigil]

http://cbyrne.tk/OJplc5hh1Dp{g{.mp4

it isn't really that bad atm

spike wise it can be worse

in bios the temps are pretty high tho

and it worries me

im worried the cpu itself is fucked

stutter?

yes

temps no

[ashen spindle]

well in bios it might just be a bad fancurve setting, or a fan that doesnt ramp up in bios

[pale sigil]

they max out by default

[ashen spindle]

in bios?

[pale sigil]

its why my pc sounds like a fucking jet engine when booting

and yes in bios

already did

what res should i run

for furmark

[crimson wigeon]

native

[pale sigil]

fullscreen or?

[crimson wigeon]

Whatever you prefer

[pale sigil]

Well it’s running now

CPU temps are around 40-60 however fans are on high

Gpu temp with 86% fan is ok average 60-65c

Max being

Also downloading 3D mark

How long does this go on for

[ashen spindle]

yup

[pale sigil]

Oh

Fucking F

[ashen spindle]

well at least the gpu doesnt seem to be the problem

65c under load is very good

[pale sigil]

aye

cant fault evga

still looks shittier than my 1070 tho

i fucking loved my 1070

ill run 3d mark in a min

does furmark store logs

[ashen spindle]

dunno never used it

[pale sigil]

dUnNo NeVeR uSeD iT

[ashen spindle]

that's not how that meme is supposed to work

[pale sigil]

tHaT's NoT hOw ThAt MeMe Is SuPpOsEd To WoRk

[ashen spindle]

there we go

[pale sigil]

Nice

3D mark won't install

[ashen spindle]

[pale sigil]

[ashen spindle]

well try prime95 or cinebench for cpu stresstesting then

[pale sigil]

Despite it telling me not to run as admin it worked as admin

[latent mural]

Lol

Install hwinfo or some shit

To look at fan speeds

[ashen spindle]

he has hwinfo

[latent mural]

Rip my phone connection

Ehh

If fan pwm rpm isn't an issue it is basically 100% a defect fan

Open case and listen which one it is

Not very hard

[ashen spindle]

why would a defect fan cause stuttering though

[latent mural]

Hek

Mobile data is crap

Thought problem was noise

Since the messages came in wrong order

[ashen spindle]

gj phone

[latent mural]

Ye

Thx

Ehh

Hardware changes?

[pale sigil]

No hardware changed

[latent mural]

Gpu?

If yes reinstall drivers if you haven't done it

[ashen spindle]

no he only changed cooler a bit ago

[pale sigil]

Done

I changed the cooler last year

[latent mural]

Ehh

My bet is ram

[pale sigil]

I replaced the actual thermal paste like 3 months ago

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah could be ram good call

[latent mural]

Shouldn't matter for performance if temps are ok

Ram likes to do werid shit

Try testing each stick if you have multiple

[pale sigil]

Sigh

I hate men tests

[ashen spindle]

I'd start by using memtest, bit simpler than hardware changes

[latent mural]

Yep

[pale sigil]

I did a mem test 4 months ago and had no signs

[latent mural]

Memtest may not find the issue though

[pale sigil]

http://cbyrne.tk/5IlXUaWq0cp{u{.mp4

cpu temps

this was normal firestrike

[ashen spindle]

bit warm but shouldn't be causing any issues

[latent mural]

Can't see shit

[unique schooner]

nice .tk domain

[pale sigil]

i was to cheap

open the link

bear in mind

fans maxed out

[ashen spindle]

does look like ram could be the issue indead

[pale sigil]

Very hot hot the bios

[ashen spindle]

eh, really just looks like a bad ihs/thermal paste combo you got

[pale sigil]

Ihs would be a manufacture issue right

[ashen spindle]

bad luck in the silicon lottery basically

[pale sigil]

But it’s a manufacture issue0

?

[latent mural]

What id max temp?

[zenith sonnet]

What PSU do you have?

[latent mural]

Try prime 95

[ashen spindle]

was 85 at on hwinfo earlier for one of the cores

[pale sigil]

Ir was?

Lol

[latent mural]

Should still be fine tbh

Not good but ok

[ashen spindle]

83* but thats still fine

[pale sigil]

But

[ashen spindle]

and yes its a manufactur "issue"

[pale sigil]

Ok warrenty

[ashen spindle]

but more of thermal paste just being bad

[pale sigil]

Should still be valid

[ashen spindle]

you cant refund it for that

[pale sigil]

You can’t rma for IHS?

[ashen spindle]

not really

unless it doesnt work

but in your case it just looks like it is at the bad end of the spectrum

[sick creek]

You can delid to find out for sure

🤪

[zenith sonnet]

PSU?

[sick creek]

I delid my 4790k way back when and i had a 4mm air bubble

[ashen spindle]

yeah what psu do you have? that could also be a cause for issues

[sick creek]

Temps dropped literally 50c at load

I was hitting 99c+ on light tasks

[pale sigil]

PSU is 850W EVGA super nova g2

Which is fairly new

[ashen spindle]

ok doesnt look like to little W is the issue lul

[zenith sonnet]

That's actually a very good unit

Unless it's a manufacturer fault, I'd not think its the issue

[pale sigil]

I got 500 more points re running

[sick creek]

that's my actual cpu

right after delid

[ashen spindle]

ohh that's one shitty paste

[sick creek]

so much for "next gen TIM"

(at the time)

[zenith sonnet]

You get good 3D mark scores, but stutter in games?

[ashen spindle]

the games on a SSD or HDD? and did you check if the drives are fine?

[zenith sonnet]

Slow harddrive causes long loading times, but usually not stutter

[ashen spindle]

yea question was bc depending on what it is you need to look for different stuff

[pale sigil]

Damn kingdom memory had lifetime warranty

Wtf

[sick creek]

just delid and do liquid metal @pale sigil

😉

[pale sigil]

To scared and it’s still in warranty

[ashen spindle]

maybe after we find his issue first

[sick creek]

haha

is it intel or amd?

[zenith sonnet]

Allmost all memory has lifetime warranties nowadays
They're rarely ever the issue
If there's an issue with RAM, is usually unstable speeds

[pale sigil]

If it’s memory then we are golden

[sick creek]

yea bad ram usually bsod on prime95 mixed ffts

so i would try that

[zenith sonnet]

But then again, that's a cause for BSODs, not stutter...

[pale sigil]

I shall try that

[sick creek]

or bad mem timings, that is

mixed FFTs uses a lot of ram

[zenith sonnet]

Just stutter, it's either software, or thermal throttling, or unstable voltages

[sick creek]

is it amd or intel tho

[pale sigil]

Intel

[sick creek]

ok

yea its possible however unlikely that they got the base voltage wrong

cause every chip is different

[pale sigil]

Who's they

[sick creek]

intel

[pale sigil]

Oh

[ashen spindle]

could also be a shitty mobo with a bad LLC or so

[sick creek]

they test the silicon batches and set the base volts

i forget what its called

but it has a name

[zenith sonnet]

Binning

[sick creek]

no no not the process, but the actual voltage value

[pale sigil]

What options

[sick creek]

like for the 4790k, "golden" chips had this value at like 1.10v

[zenith sonnet]

What's a golden value for a Radeon VII?

[sick creek]

fuck if i know

i havent been in the OC scene for a while

i dont know what the latest shit is

[pale sigil]

Default it is

[sick creek]

yea sorry

blend

i swear it used to be called mixed but thats the one

[pale sigil]

My desktop is being tortured

Rn

[sick creek]

lel

[pale sigil]

Oof

So laggy

Temps staying at 60-70atm

[zenith sonnet]

Disable Geeforc Experiensee

[sick creek]

not bad, but that could change

[pale sigil]

GeForce experience XD isn't installed

[sick creek]

small ffts do max heat

[zenith sonnet]

It records all gameplay by default

[sick creek]

large ffts do max mem

[zenith sonnet]

Also, Windows DVR does the same

Actually seen that to be the issue for some people

Or go AMD

[pale sigil]

I always disable dvr

I swear

Also that was kinda the plan

With ryzen 3

Tbh

So what does this run until I stop it?

[sick creek]

pretty much

[ashen spindle]

yeah 20 mins or so should be enough

[pale sigil]

Timestamp

[sick creek]

yeah 20-30 mins should be fine, but i've had unstable OC last an hour and then fail

so it depends on what you're after

[pale sigil]

I'm just sick of my eyes bleeding when I play games

[sick creek]

wut

haha

[pale sigil]

Because of stutter

[sick creek]

ah

[pale sigil]

I even stutter on fucking minecraft

[sick creek]

oof

so to test that

either lower your clocks

and set mem to default speeds

or raise cpu voltage 0.1v

[pale sigil]

Ram at default speeds atm

[sick creek]

without changing anything else

that could also be it tho

you arent running the xmp profile?

[pale sigil]

No I mean I just did it

Before the test

I'm not running XMP

[sick creek]

i would try that

[pale sigil]

Make me

[sick creek]

i'm not arguing, but that's what i would do

[pale sigil]

I’ll try it after the test

I was just kidding

[sick creek]

haha

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah maybe I should try and do some mem OC at some point, only have 2133 sticks on defautl settings

[sick creek]

but bad mem timings could cause the stutter

xmp might set them closer to what they like

[pale sigil]

Which would be the best outcome nil

Ngl

The memory being an issue I mean

[sick creek]

well so

the memory might just be a bad combo with the motherboard

at their default settings

[pale sigil]

I hope so

[sick creek]

basically motherboard manufacturers engineers set their own "stable defaults"

[pale sigil]

I was going to do all this when I got a new case

[sick creek]

and they are not the same from brand to brand

[pale sigil]

But like I can’t deal with it

[sick creek]

so like one might set tRas to one value

and then another mobo might be completely different

it just depends on what ram they're testing with

thats why asus has a memory compatibility guide for every mobo

[pale sigil]

While I’m waiting I sold my s7 @wheat plume so I’m looking for a new phone 👀 what phone did you have again?

[sick creek]

its not to push certain brands, its just what they tested and deemed was stable

[pale sigil]

It’s not always been an issue tho

[sick creek]

no usually it isnt

but some mem is more sensitive

i had some mushkin memory that was great... IF you had the right settings

if you didn't, it would be unstable, stutter, bsod, etc

defaults didnt work either

[pale sigil]

Interesting

[sick creek]

yeah it was stupid. i had to call mushkin and one of their engineers actually sent me values to try

but he was right and they fixed everything

[wheat plume]

I have the Mi Mix 2S

but I would recommend the Mix 3 over this

its better in everyway except battery size

[pale sigil]

I wish I just got the mi3 during that sale 😦

[wheat plume]

mi 3?

[sick creek]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-0V9v-ybKU

that's dope

it looks just like an iphone x but without a notch lol

[pale sigil]

I’m gonna miss 1440p

[latent mural]

wasn't that out for quite some while?

[pale sigil]

£300

😦

[wheat plume]

You can still view YouTube in 1440p on this

[pale sigil]

Last week

[latent mural]

400 €

[wheat plume]

Woah

[latent mural]

oh, ok

had it on hand a couple days ago in a shop

[wheat plume]

Ooo lucky

[pale sigil]

Oh shit it’s 300 again

Out of stock

Ffs

[wheat plume]

;&;

[zenith sonnet]

Just go OP7, lol

[wheat plume]

I wanna get a pixel 3A XL

[latent mural]

fuck the op7 lol

the k20pro exists

[wheat plume]

But I already paid quite a lot for a phone already

[latent mural]

or mi 9t

[wheat plume]

Yes
K20 ftw

Well
The global version isn't out yet

[latent mural]

no reason for the op7 to exist imo

[sick creek]

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/light-phone-2#/

get one of these LOL

[latent mural]

yea

[wheat plume]

Xd

[latent mural]

less geatures nice

[pale sigil]

K20 why

[wheat plume]

Wait for global k20

[pale sigil]

That’s on offer atm

[latent mural]

300USD

[ashen spindle]

Hope the iphones this year will be decent so I can upgrde from my 6s if needed

[latent mural]

for a glorified plastic slab with leds

[pale sigil]

I’d rather get global

[latent mural]

the k20 pro has pretty good hardware for the price

[pale sigil]

But I need a phone soon

[sick creek]

the k20 looks like shit tbh

[pale sigil]

Can’t deal with this iPhone

[wheat plume]

And you get sd 855
In screen fingerprint scanner
Pop up front camera

On the k20

[latent mural]

the mi 9 t comes out like next week

[sick creek]

it looks like a burner phone

[latent mural]

and is like 350€

[sick creek]

from 2008

[latent mural]

for a snapdragon 855

[wheat plume]

And it has a headphone jack

[zenith sonnet]

I still hope there will be something that trumps the Ryzen 3900X
When is E3 again?

[pale sigil]

755

Not 855

[latent mural]

e3 is start of the next week

[pale sigil]

730 sorry

[latent mural]

pfingstmontag is on a good day this year

the mi 9t/k20 pro

[zenith sonnet]

8C|16T with higher clocks would be better for me

[latent mural]

is slightly more expensive for the 855

[pale sigil]

Reee

[zenith sonnet]

Don't think games use 12C|24T soon

[ashen spindle]

EA E3 talk is on satuday already

[pale sigil]

My budget is £300 max

[ashen spindle]

microsoft is on sunday

[latent mural]

most presentation are on monday morning in germany afaik

[ashen spindle]

https://gyazo.com/734dc9d8b62c816daa3fb223c1fbb482 german/eu times

[latent mural]

oh, ok thx

[zenith sonnet]

There's no AMD in that list

I'll hear from GN anyway, I guess

[ashen spindle]

amd is monday iirc

monday 23:00 apparently?

wait no should be midnight

[zenith sonnet]

So I'll hear Tuesday afternoon, I guess

[pale sigil]

So I haven’t BSOD yet

[zenith sonnet]

Memory and CPU are fine
Did you monitor CPU clocks and temps for throttling, though?

[pale sigil]

I’ve been recording my screen

Well not recording it

Using sharex

[zenith sonnet]

How many 12V rails does your PSU have?

[ashen spindle]

well hwinfo shows max temps the cores reached so just look there

[zenith sonnet]

Throttling wouldn't be visible, though

But temps above 90C suggest throttling

[pale sigil]

Max 88

[zenith sonnet]

Meh, it's possible

[pale sigil]

Average 72

[ashen spindle]

nah thats 88 on prime, only was 83 max on firestrike

prime is not a load you get in a game

[zenith sonnet]

True

[pale sigil]

Where does the benchmark log get saved

[zenith sonnet]

Anyway, make sure CPU and GPU are on different 12V rails, if the PSU has multiple

What's your GPU?

1070 TI?

[pale sigil]

1070TI

[zenith sonnet]

K

[pale sigil]

I did a 30 min text btw

[ashen spindle]

ye long enough for non OC'd hardware

[zenith sonnet]

It's probably still software
Or maybe the card
Unstable vram?

[pale sigil]

Hmm

Let's try XMP

[ashen spindle]

IIrc nvidia forced partners to not OC 1070TIs bc then they would be too close to 1080s

so shouldnt be VRAM oc issues

and vram just failing on stock could happen but that's sooooo unlikely

[pale sigil]

so ugh

i underclocked

the ram

and performance is better

[ashen spindle]

whats the old/new speeds?

[pale sigil]

2333 atm, it was 2800

then again i also enabled xmp

[zenith sonnet]

Might be unstable timings, bad board, or unstable CPU secondary clocks, or whatever

[zenith sonnet]

What the hell is that?

[pale sigil]

An OS

[zenith sonnet]

Unfamiliar. Do NOT want.

[wheat plume]

Made in Ireland ❤

https://zorinos.com/

[zenith sonnet]

Does it support Vulkan, at least?

[ashen spindle]

Ireland more like IrEWWland

[wheat plume]

doesnt all Linux support vulkan?

[pale sigil]

More like not being able to fin... 🍺

[wheat plume]

xd

[ashen spindle]

don't get what you play at

[wheat plume]

^

[pale sigil]

dOeSnT aLl LiNuX sUpPoRt VuLkAn?

[zenith sonnet]

The entire purpose of an OS is playing games
Anything else is secondary :p

[ashen spindle]

still don't get it

[pale sigil]

As in the joke i tried to make?

Quintosh

:monkaHmm: don't get what you play at

in #tech_talk · Jun 6, 2019, 5:51 PM

[ashen spindle]

yes

[zenith sonnet]

Are you 45?

😂

[wheat plume]

the mac layout only comes on the Ultimate versioon of Zorin

the one you pay for

it looks like windows by default, with a taskbar like panel at the bottom

fair enough

[zenith sonnet]

I'm stuck in the past

When games used to be fun

Nowadays my brain feels slower 🤔

[wheat plume]

Any particular OS you wanna try ?

I would say Pop OS or manjaro if you wanna go to Arch

[pale sigil]

I wanna try having a new phone :< but the buyer hasn’t responded and was supposed to be here half an hour ago

Gotta give them credit

This iPhone 6s is pretty damn fast

Still

[zenith sonnet]

So is my OP3
Phones have reached the point of sufficient processing power for almost any basic tasks

[pale sigil]

Yes and no

My s7 for example was definitely showing it’s age

This iPhone 6s feels snappy and a lot faster

Not that I’m saying the s7 is slow

But saying I can feel the difference as time goes on

[ashen spindle]

yea the only thing I noticed aging on my 6s is the camera

[zenith sonnet]

Factory resetting once every 2 years also goes a long way

[pale sigil]

Also flem how is your battery not fucked

[orchid rune]

Thats cos iphones never end their support cycle either

[pale sigil]

I reset a month ago

[orchid rune]

Constant updates

[pale sigil]

They do end t

[orchid rune]

Unlike androids which are generally only on cycle for like 2 years

[pale sigil]

Just not right away

[orchid rune]

They end way down the line

[pale sigil]

I’m just saying is all

Apple devices age better in a lot of cases even though I really dislike them

It is

Really is

[ashen spindle]

yeah but google is the devil

so pick your poison

[pale sigil]

He uses Nokia

[orchid rune]

What a hipster

[pale sigil]

IKR

You’re poison

[orchid rune]

One thing apple always gets praise for is their commitment to privacy

[pale sigil]

Well

Have you not seen login with apple

[orchid rune]

Which ull get far less of on any android

[pale sigil]

He’s somewhat right made

Mate

Mage

Me rn

[orchid rune]

Theyre much better lol, i believe its one of the reasons why siri has fallen behind though, they dont recieve as much data to improve it

[pale sigil]

Correct

Tbh

Used to be more private

Without google services android is crippled af

It sucks ass

[orchid rune]

Likely for eternity unless apple decides they want to start collecting more data

[pale sigil]

Whatever it’s called that allows you to run google apps

Without it you can’t run play etc

Ye

I just want a Linux phone that doesn’t cost a kidney to buy

[orchid rune]

Alternative to youtube?

[pale sigil]

There’s a much better alternative

Much much better

YouTube Vance

[orchid rune]

Vsauce

[pale sigil]

I type so much better on iPhone it’s insane

Never known why

[orchid rune]

Can u not turn it off

Like everyone does on android

Good

If you keep autocorrect on you a hoe

[ashen spindle]

wtf why would I want to turn it off

makes writing so much faster

[orchid rune]

Cos its annoying as piss

Just have suggestions on

[ashen spindle]

I type german and english and use it

[orchid rune]

Purge autocorrect from the face of the earth

I just use samsungs keyboard, cba installing any other

Nor do i need to

Finnish

[zenith sonnet]

So Finnish is just broken?

[pale sigil]

Finnish

Minnish

Innish

Linnish

God I’m so bored

Pretty much

[orchid rune]

Mince raft

[pale sigil]

Hmm mince

[zenith sonnet]

Play Raft, then?

[orchid rune]

I keep meaning to hop back onto raft

[pale sigil]

My server be dead till tomorrow

Or well my server hosted on cops server

[orchid rune]

Last time i played there was basically no content

[pale sigil]

I’ve tried all day

They all bore me

Read them all

Well physical ones in my house

I can’t even be bothered to play satisfactory

[orchid rune]

Play frozen elsa make up games on gamesforgirls

[zenith mirage]

Start playing war thunder so you can waste hundreds of hours grinding

So basically, go play F2P games

It really is the only way

[zenith sonnet]

Good old WoT days...

[ashen spindle]

steam summer sale on the 25th btw

[zenith sonnet]

I want a game to be competitive, again

[ashen spindle]

yep

well this time I'll buy some things

[zenith sonnet]

Stop being poor? 🤔

[zenith mirage]

Tbf, its just that easy

[zenith sonnet]

I need to buy an house, still

[zenith mirage]

In this economy? I don't think so

[zenith sonnet]

Or build

What video?

[pale sigil]

Not being able to multitask sucks

[orchid rune]

Why dont homeless people just buy a house

[zenith sonnet]

Well, you can at least rent a room

Most people stay homeless by choice
Even if it's the choice not to do anything about it

[orchid rune]

Shut up and buy a house

Just do it

Tick

[zenith sonnet]

Procrastination is such a bitch
Been failing to it for 25 years

[orchid rune]

Easy fix to procrastination

Stop doing it

Easy

[zenith sonnet]

ADHD is also a tough nut to crack

[orchid rune]

Fix to adhd u ready?

Stop it

Just you know, dont have it

[zenith sonnet]

Unfortunately, just do it doesn't fix it
Just solves some symptoms

[orchid rune]

Thats perfect

Ur depressed? Just be happy 4head

[zenith sonnet]

So was I

You can't fix depression with thoughts
You can just get some symptoms fixed

[orchid rune]

Just get better

Just stop getting ur vaccines and ull be good as new trust me i read it somewhere

[zenith sonnet]

Being homeless or jobless isn't a mental health issue, like ADHD or depression
One may lead to the other, but they're different things
One you can just fix by doing it, the other you need to learn to live with or against

[latent mural]

being homeless in germany is legit your own choice

[zenith sonnet]

You gotta what, work against the social systems?

[latent mural]

ye

spend all your money on alcohol

and even then you can get wohngeld which you can't controll

[zenith sonnet]

Even an uneducated person will be found a job

[orchid rune]

Obviously ive been pissing around

Everything we've talked about has way more depth and nuance to it.

It's fun to believe that "just doing it" is all there is to it, but its blissfully ignorant

[latent mural]

in germany not

[zenith sonnet]

Or maybe just the core of the issue

[latent mural]

you only have to get hartz IV and wohngeld

and then you ahve a flat

and enough money to life

a shitty life

[zenith sonnet]

With the problem being that people 'just don't do it'

[orchid rune]

What the hell is that

[latent mural]

but better than on the street

german social system

[orchid rune]

Xeanoa uve got to consider that theres way more hoops to jump through than just the one at the start, with obstacles along the way that can sometimes be extremely difficuilt to get past for people in unfortunate positions, such as living on the streets with no cash

And even just the words "just do it" for something like stopping procrastinating

Ok how?- thats not helping, a great solution is to make a schedule

[zenith sonnet]

Schedules don't work - you ignore them

[orchid rune]

Not if you really want to change

Theres no excuse for not following a reasonable schedule

Thats only a starting point

[zenith sonnet]

Except, that you just don't do it

[orchid rune]

If you cant do that then thats just laziness

And you dont actually care

[zenith sonnet]

It's very comparable to depression in that regard

[orchid rune]

Depression is a very hard thing to fight against but its also possible- it will likely require a lot of support, but with enough move its also something that can be done

This is also what I mean by there being more to achieving something than just doing it

[zenith sonnet]

Is procrastination a learned behaviour? A disorder of neurotransmitters? What is it?

[orchid rune]

Procrastination is a very human thing, i dont think its a fault in anything

[zenith sonnet]

Support is the one best thing I found to help with procrastination. Unfortunately, for the procrastinator, it feels like bad pressure. Because they're blissfully aware of the issue, and constantly feel bad about themselves

[orchid rune]

Adhd definitely contributes to procrastination though

I have mild adhd and am the master of putting things off till the last minute

Obviously very easily distracted too

[reef patrol]

ADHD here. Can confirm

Super absent minded.

[zenith sonnet]

Procrastinating in video games might sound like the most stupid thing ever

[orchid rune]

Remember everyone procrastinates to a degree

[zenith sonnet]

But it's how I spend half of the time

[orchid rune]

You mean playing games instead of doing what you should be doing or what?

Cos in that case thats probably the most common form of procrastination, cos everyone would rather be doing something they enjoy

[zenith sonnet]

Nope, procrastinating ingame - from the gameplay

[orchid rune]

ah

only thing I can really think of there is if I was playing an open world game or something i could just go off and do something stupid but i mean thats also what ur supposed to do really- so u must be talking about something else

assuming you mean u just stop paying attention

[zenith sonnet]

Nope, like jumping in circles, instead of doing anything productive to your progress

Or whatever it is you can do

Like sitting in menus

[orchid rune]

that doesnt sound very fun

[zenith sonnet]

It isn't

But that's procrastination

[solar hinge]

xeanoa, i haven't seen you type this much in ages :p

[pale sigil]

Ikr

[zenith sonnet]

Well, nobody talks that much to me, usually 😦

[pale sigil]

Xeanoa

LEDs reee

[zenith mirage]

Finally got a TV at the end of my bed and it's everything I hoped for and more

Which is to say, kinda awkward to set up and not actually that great in practice

But, it just about plays YouTube videos in an acceptable manner, which will do for now

[pale sigil]

So smol

[zenith mirage]

It's far away

I can't actually remember how big it is, but its like 30" or something

[pale sigil]

T H I C C BEZELS

[zenith mirage]

Oh yeah

She's an oldie

[pale sigil]

30”

[zenith mirage]

Which is why it's not that good

[pale sigil]

My monitor is 27”

[zenith mirage]

Maybe its not then

[pale sigil]

Brad’s so weird to think about ngl

[zenith mirage]

Idk

[pale sigil]

I have a 43”

[zenith mirage]

Mine is 27 too now that I think about it

Hmmm

[pale sigil]

Got so used to it

[zenith mirage]

Now I'm lost

[pale sigil]

That 27-32 is tiny to me now

[zenith mirage]

This must be closer to 40 then

[pale sigil]

[zenith mirage]

Idk

[pale sigil]

Nah it’s probably 32

[zenith mirage]

Tbf, I got this off my flatmate, because we nabbed a TV out of the bin shed

[pale sigil]

It looks 32

[zenith mirage]

So it's decent for that much

If I could be bothered, I'd get up and measure it

But since I can't, I won't

[pale sigil]

Free?

I got my TV cheap af I was lucky

4K, 43” gigabit Ethernet etc for £270 I think it was

Maybe less

Last one in the store

[zenith mirage]

Well, TV was free, cables etc were not

Had to buy a 7m HDMI and an extension lead

[latent mural]

@pale sigil https://www.amazon.de/43DP602-Fernseher-Digital-T-Cast-Schwarz/dp/B07GB3VJVV kek

android tv, so the best smart tv you can get

[pale sigil]

I got it 3 years ago

[latent mural]

ok, good deal back then

[pale sigil]

Also shit make

[latent mural]

TCL is actually quite good

if you don't wanna spend thousands

[pale sigil]

LG is the lowest I’d personally go

Tbh

[latent mural]

what do you have?

[pale sigil]

LG

Haha

I don’t trust cheaper brands

Is all

[latent mural]

oh, ok

tbh samsung and sony software both is shit

android tv is just SOOO much better

[pale sigil]

Like I see them all the time

In shops and they always see shit one way or another

LG software is the worst

[latent mural]

and that was a comparison of two extremely high end 70" devices to a 400€ one

[pale sigil]

Though I’m pretty sure they all use webOS

[latent mural]

idfk

all horrible

lg also isn't the nicest though

haven't been able to use one of their high end devices yet though

https://www.amazon.de/Sony-KD-70XF8305-Fernseher-Android-Sprachsteuerung/dp/B07CMW8JFR the sony was this one

the samsung was this one https://www.amazon.de/Samsung-KU6079-Fernseher-Ultra-Triple/dp/B01CJS8JC6

so not the cheapest models

[pale sigil]

LG has awful software

I use a fire stick and chrome cast

[latent mural]

andorid tv is sooooo goood

[pale sigil]

Probably is yw

But not many companies use it

[latent mural]

you have noo need for either a chromecast or a firetv at that point

runs pretty much any andorid app you'd want on a tv

[pale sigil]

You do for Kodi

Cos the TV will usually be weaker

[latent mural]

nah

is fast enough

[pale sigil]

Have you ever used kodi on a firestick?

[latent mural]

nope

hate kodi though

[pale sigil]

Nuff said

It’s hell

[latent mural]

roommate had it running on a raspberry

why would you want kodi though

[pale sigil]

And kodi sticks are much more specced that TVs usually

[latent mural]

it is android

does any kind of media playback

[pale sigil]

Because kodi literally streams anything

[latent mural]

it is android

a real os

with a browser

[pale sigil]

Real debris and exodus

[latent mural]

and such things

[pale sigil]

Can watch everything

Have you not used kodi for films and tv shoes

[latent mural]

nope

not a big tv person myself

[pale sigil]

I use it everyday for 1080-4K goodness

To watch me episodes

[latent mural]

have a pc

don't need a tv imo

[pale sigil]

So do I but I’d rather watch shit in bed

[latent mural]

I understand the appeal

nah

bed is manga time

[pale sigil]

Can’t be asses watching from a distance on a 27”

Fuck that

[latent mural]

never been a tv person

nah, I could forget that

wouldn't be possible

[pale sigil]

Is someone who watches Netflix considered a tv person?

[latent mural]

roomate takes his laptop to his bed

even worse

I only watch netflix on my pc lol

idk

[pale sigil]

Ye no I can’t really do that for shows I wanna relax and watch, only shows to watch when I’m hiking

Chilling

[latent mural]

tbh I don't think I know when I last watched tv over something else

[pale sigil]

Usually I watch stuff before bed

[latent mural]

which wasn't mythbusters

[pale sigil]

And eat tea in bed

[latent mural]

likely when I was a little kid

[pale sigil]

It’s nice

[latent mural]

how do you watch shows when hiking?

[pale sigil]

I used to watch stuff on my monitor all the time but once I got that TV

I couldn’t go back

When chilling

Also I’d use my IPad

Ifhsss

I guess

XD

In finding it hard to move to iPhone keyboard rn

But damn I type so fast it’s crAzy

[latent mural]

rip

but guys

swipe typing lol

[pale sigil]

Yes

[latent mural]

ik

[pale sigil]

He’s being sarcastic

[latent mural]

it is a feature since 2012 or something

my nexus 4 had it

as well as wireless charging

[pale sigil]

Nexus 4

Back when google fared

Cared

[latent mural]

was a good phone back then

my only lg

[pale sigil]

Nexus 5 was fantastic

[latent mural]

the only company that made a nexus and still failed in the smartphone market

I actually forgot what replaced my nexus 4

was it my ulefone power?

[pale sigil]

Wait wha

Nexus had a snapdragon 800

[latent mural]

reminds me, I also had the original xcover for like 2 months

[pale sigil]

I had a HTC ONE

Piece of shit

[latent mural]

friend has the htc 10

no software updates

[pale sigil]

Flagship phone my ass

[latent mural]

was supported for like 3 months

[pale sigil]

Compared to the nexus 5 it was a literal piece of shit

Though ngl

Still looks so much better than current phones

[latent mural]

wasn't a big fan of the htc styling back then

still am not now

[latent mural]

they look like some futuristic devices out of the 80s

[pale sigil]

Still pretty thin all things considered

I still have it

Use it as a remote lol

I like were we are good with phones

Excluding the notch

Fuck the notch

[latent mural]

the notch is horrible

still hate apple for doing that

they could've just copied the s8

[crimson wigeon]

The notch is ridiculous

[latent mural]

a friend also had like the first 720p phone from htc

that thing ran worse than the galaxy s3

[pale sigil]

I had that spire one while my m7 was being fixed

It froze when j had to ring the ambulance

Dear god

[latent mural]

oof

spire one?

[pale sigil]

Or was it wildfire

[latent mural]

why do you name your devices after natural disasters?

the new htc tremor

that actually doesn't sound completely terrible

but pls don't

stay to numbers

those make sense when you release a phone every year

[pale sigil]

Damn Cydia got a sexy overhaul

[wheat plume]

isnt that the thing you use to install jailbreak tools?

[pale sigil]

Tweaks aye

[wheat plume]

indeed they are prices

even jailbreaking your iphone doesnt get rid of cost

[timid chasm]

Why would you think you'd never see that?

[wheat plume]

im sure most are?

maybe not on iOS

[timid chasm]

Not sure what that even means

I mean you deleted comment

no idea what that means or was targeted at

but I'm going to assume paid content isn't open source

Not necessarily

it's used for freedom over your device in a lot of cases. Doesn't have to be illegal

It can be, sure.

uh..yeah

but doesn't have to be...

[pale sigil]

I mean

[timid chasm]

You don't have to buy them. I'm sure there's probably some repo that has them for free somewhere

[pale sigil]

Make money if you can right? I’d sell tweaks

I’ve never bought one

It’s mostly heavy modified themes that cost

[timid chasm]

yes free repos are ymmv

you bypass them by not buying them

not sure what you mean by "bypass" though since they are optional

if the device hardware supports it

Aren't those in the pic above apps?

like themes and shit

so you were carrying on a conversation about something you didnt look at or know what it was?

pretty sure they're themes which isnt weird to charge for, rooted or not

not at all

[pale sigil]

Themes yes

Most people don't

[ashen spindle]

Why does my ISP even offer 24/7 support hotline if people who can fix stuff aren’t available 24/7

[wheat plume]

I'm so mad at Android Q
The back gesture -.-

Why not do it the way miui 10 does it

Have the back button be the bottom half of the screen so apps that have side menus don't need to be updated

Instead they deadass make the whole side of the screen the back button -.-

[agile summit]

@ashen spindle because the folks who are good rotate to earlier hours

[orchid rune]

Thats timezones for ya

[ashen spindle]

Get timezoned noob

[zenith sonnet]

Weird
Since updating to Android 9, playstore doesn't download anything

[latent mural]

rip

have you tried turning it off and on again

[zenith sonnet]

Weird

I had to disable my VPN

[ashen spindle]

to make sure it continues to work you also need to give me your credit card number and the 3 numbers on the back

[zenith sonnet]

Isn't SSN an American thing?

Probably has, though I do not know what you could even do with it

[ashen spindle]

no for privacy reasons we dont have one global id for everything

[zenith sonnet]

Never heard about it being misused

I mean, I do have one, I guess

[ashen spindle]

you have a number for your insurance, different one for your pension etc.

[zenith sonnet]

But it doesn't work to identify yourself

That's what IDs are for

Or Passports

[ashen spindle]

well you are required to have a something to identify yourself starting at 16 aka passport or IDs

[zenith sonnet]

And only IDs or passports are allowed

[ashen spindle]

uh no

[zenith sonnet]

The only one that gets the SSN is the employer to process payments into the social systems

[ashen spindle]

no you need a previous pass, birth certificate or something along those lines

[zenith sonnet]

I do not need an SSN to order a new passport

Yeah, that

To get married I needed an ID or passport and a birth certificate

[ashen spindle]

I didnt know places outside the US use it lmao

[zenith sonnet]

Still no SSN

There are ID numbers in Germany

They're different from the SSN, though

They're are different ID numbers for almost every service

[ashen spindle]

yea on my ID there isnt a single number that matches with anything on my insurance card

[zenith sonnet]

ID or passport, health insurance, taxes and social security, whatever

All three have different unique identifiers

[ashen spindle]

closest we have to SSN is probably the Service number you get if you join the military

[latent mural]

since military service isn't necessary anymore it is only for a few people though

[ashen spindle]

yup

[latent mural]

and even in the past many people avoided that year

[ashen spindle]

also passports do have some parts in common with your ID, since for example the US ask for your ID document number but you need to show your passport and not the ID

if you want to go to the US without wanting a VISA that is

not that bad depending on where you go to

Atlanta was quite nice