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zenith mirage
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If you wanted it

wheat plume
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Thanks!!!

pale sigil
wheat plume
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so transparent

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cant even see what apps they from

pale sigil
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blind innit

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What phone do you have again

wheat plume
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Mi Mix 2S

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running the newest MIUI 10 global beta cause I wanna get new features man

unique schooner
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mmh my pocophone did not have an upgrade since 3 weeks (did 1 update since i own it )

wheat plume
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was that the update that made the l1 patch happen?

unique schooner
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l1 ?

wheat plume
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You know, the thing that lets you watch netflix in HD

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Widevine or whatever

unique schooner
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oh idk, i dont use netflix on my phone

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kinda feels awkward if i cant be on discord at the same time

wheat plume
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xd

pale sigil
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Mi mix 2 is expensive

unique schooner
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no

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error 500 is

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code is stupid

wheat plume
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I was saving up for the Mix 3 but I didnt get that cause adding on import fee would make it cost like 250 euro more

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wait, no the phone was 120 more so 300 more ;-;

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😂

unique schooner
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there are also http error codes

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alot higher

pale sigil
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No u

unique schooner
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yes

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but the docs on them are funny

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lets see if i can find that sheet again

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focking heck

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xD

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recaptcha is quite good

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compared to others

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also there is v3 coming out

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doing everything silent

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or deathbycaptcha

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never had lag issues with it

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also the audio one

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keeps bots away quite good

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as after a while it gets blocked

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so on a big scale buster doesnt work

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useless you have like 3 billion proxies

fair gull
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or an ai that can solve em

unique schooner
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@fair gull an AI takes time

fair gull
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not if it runs on a quantum computer

unique schooner
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you could also say OCR can break the "normal" captchas

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duh who owns a quantum computer

fair gull
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uh microsoft and google

unique schooner
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well if google has to break there own captchas

crimson wigeon
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Well those reCAPTCHAs that challenge you are also used for training AI

unique schooner
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this tool can break recaptcha too

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correct

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but still requires "clean ips"

crimson wigeon
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I member back in the day when it was text only I sometimes just typed whatever because it only wanted one word right (usually the more scrambled one)

unique schooner
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cause google flags ips and force you to fill alot more "images"

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@crimson wigeon correct 4chan made a big raid about it and replaced it with nigger or fuck

crimson wigeon
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And I bet even now clicking on traffic lights and shit is definitely for training their self driving cars

unique schooner
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so duh

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i dont mind

crimson wigeon
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THEY'RE USING US

unique schooner
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think about a world without google

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at the end we can use there products for free

crimson wigeon
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Yeah maybe we would all be using Yahoo instead

unique schooner
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yea ofc there are issues

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but what is ur alternative

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you wont get arround it

crimson wigeon
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But hey they care about our privacy! Even letting us set our data to auto delete!

unique schooner
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well they are kinda forced for that

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atleast in the EU

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google is also a major changer for antivirus companies

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if you dont know virustotal is from google

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the pretty much only company what can keep up with antivirus stuff "on there own" is microsoft

take a look at https://www.microsoft.com/security/blog/2018/02/14/how-artificial-intelligence-stopped-an-emotet-outbreak/

Microsoft Security

At 12:46 a.m. local time on February 3, a Windows 7 Pro customer in North Carolina became the first would-be victim of a new malware attack campaign for Trojan:Win32/Emotet. In the next 30 minutes, the campaign tried to attack over a thousand potential victims, all of whom we...

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do note :
windows defender is in my opinion the strongest right now

they have a hugh sample set as its pre installed with windows 10
and they have alot of resources to analyze "unkown" files very quick with a good model

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we used to have kaspersky endpoint at work

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and now most of our clients just run on the free windows defender

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kaspersky took too long to update the databases

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and even then the detection rate was horrible

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and it already broke some stuff 2-3 times

pale sigil
unique schooner
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the new teamviewer plans are such a scam

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you cant buy "lifetime" anymore

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and they always want to talk you over

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to switch ur lifetime one to a sub one

pale sigil
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Vnc isn't as good tho

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I don't even have a job :>

latent mural
pale sigil
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lul google bragged about privacy

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Also that's cheaper than what it was supposed to be lol

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I hate teamviewer now

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Latency, image quality etc innit

pale sigil
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Welp vnc has got a lot better than it was a few years ago

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Is there no way to have it separate screens like tv

unique schooner
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i think that depends on ur viewer

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@proud nacelle multi screen setup

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so you can "tab" trough the screens

plush summit
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Vnc is open sauce too?

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So there are other versions

wheat plume
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mm open sauce kannadance

pale sigil
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Just standard

pale sigil
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Vnc server and viewer

fallow bison
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i frikin love vnc man

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its got so much better

pale sigil
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Ye it has

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Last I used it was 2015 lol

fallow bison
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it was awful to get it working back then lol

pale sigil
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Ye and meh in general

fallow bison
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agreed

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lots of drops

pale sigil
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@proud nacelle What do you suggest?

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i was watching lucifer

ashen spindle
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gotta love unreal sometimes

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already down from 7000 shaders but still

wheat plume
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This is 1026 times faster than my wifi

pale sigil
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Damn

wheat plume
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:OO

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I can't

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How tho

chrome estuary
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because they've got more money than god and can do shit like that.

pale sigil
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Anyone have a suggestion for a laptop at a decent price, 8gb ram, ssd etc

unique schooner
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random dell from ebay ?

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or do you want to buy a new one ?

pale sigil
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new one

unique schooner
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graphic card or internel ?

pale sigil
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interal

unique schooner
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any preference on size ?

pale sigil
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nope

unique schooner
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smth along this ?

pale sigil
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that price

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oooft

unique schooner
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well

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you can go lower too

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but unsure what you want todo with it

pale sigil
pale sigil
fallow bison
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Lol f

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Agreed

wheat plume
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if only this was true, anything I download downloads at less than 1mbps and youtube barely loads at 720p60fps

wheat plume
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o

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idk maybe

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but not when im at my student house

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I get like 12mbps down there

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maybe 16 on a good day

pale sigil
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Anyone know any decent free macro software that isn't AHK

solar hinge
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I'm in a crowded shopping centre on the basement level

pale sigil
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on a VPN

wheat plume
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Quinn has Xiaomi?

pale sigil
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I honestly cannot believe how fast 2019 has gone

wheat plume
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not for me

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slow af

zenith mirage
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it's been quick

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and a lot has happened

fair gull
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@wheat plume same

wheat plume
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😂

fickle ore
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computex gonna be gud

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AMD and Wooting Lekker

fair gull
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i wish i had the spare money to fly over

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id so want to visit the woot booth

fickle ore
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anyone used thermal Grizzly Kryonaut?

fair gull
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yes

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berry gud

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altho somewhat expected from tg

fickle ore
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aight, how much is enough? 5.5g?

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or 1g?

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gonna do cpu and gpu atleast

fair gull
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1g should be enough tbh

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since u dont need that much thermal compound on either anyway

fickle ore
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thx

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ya graphite pad from thermal grizzly

ashen spindle
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paste is still better, but if you swap components a lot it's much easier to swap

fair gull
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tbh pads are more smth for quick fix but not a permanent soluction

fickle ore
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aye

latent mural
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the padss are good as a permanent solution

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but perform worse than paste

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but longer

fickle ore
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I'm either gonna use kryonaut or just Liquid Metal

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depends on the ryzen 2 IHS I guess

latent mural
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liquid metal between cooelr and ihs is not worth

fickle ore
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copper heatsink I need too

latent mural
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get kryonaut

fickle ore
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what do you mean not worth? How much difference?

latent mural
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not a lot

fair gull
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ur temps with pads will also be kinda crap

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tbh

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id say a year or 2

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depending on the temps you actually pull

latent mural
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more like 3-5

fickle ore
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my friend doesnt even use paste lol

fair gull
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idk i replace mine every 2 years

fickle ore
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but he doesnt OC

latent mural
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depends heavily on paste though

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liquid metal usually doesn't last as long

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wat

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you have to use something

fickle ore
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naah

latent mural
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doesn't matter if he ocs

fickle ore
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its fine

fair gull
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he uses mustard

latent mural
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what does he have?

fickle ore
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I ran my AMD cpu without paste

latent mural
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a pentium 2?

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pls

fickle ore
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i7 kabylake he has

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iirc

latent mural
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wtf

fickle ore
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6 cores

latent mural
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it's gonna throttle like hell

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400€ cpu and not 10€ for paste

fair gull
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how does one use such a cpu without any thermal compound

latent mural
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even though the coolers aalways come with some too

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nope

fickle ore
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ive told him couple times he doesnt care so I won't either

fair gull
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the IHS is never flat enough for that

latent mural
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you won't get good enough contact

fickle ore
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think i'll prob get custom IHS + kryonaut

fair gull
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why a custom IHS with ryzen

fickle ore
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larger surface area

fair gull
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arent ryzen IHS solder to the die?

latent mural
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no?

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yep

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you'll kill the cpu

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only the 2200g and 2400g aren't soldered

fair gull
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completely irrelevant if the die is larger or not

fickle ore
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yea

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I wanna see if I can push the limits

fair gull
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then go with LN2

fickle ore
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😄

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wot

latent mural
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yea

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but are low power af

fair gull
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idk why anyone would want to modify the ryzen cpus except maybe lapping the IHS

fickle ore
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for fun I guess

latent mural
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you loose temps

fair gull
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gl with 0 improvements

fickle ore
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its a hobby

latent mural
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you'd have to resolder to even keep temps

fair gull
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^

fickle ore
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ik

ashen spindle
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just sanding the ihs should bring the most there

fair gull
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lapping the IHS and just using good thermal paste and a good cooling solution will get way more perf than fucking up the entire cpu

fickle ore
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yeah thats another thing I need to do

fair gull
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a custom ihs will improve the temps by a degree or 2 at max

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altho id say it will prob make it worse

fickle ore
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this is not my first build, im not worried ^^

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and I welcome even 1 degree lol

latent mural
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nope

fair gull
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i mean theres a reason soldered cpus only get delidded to put the cooling onto the die directly

latent mural
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you'll loose temps with a custom ihs on ryzen

fair gull
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and not to replace the ihs

latent mural
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since you can't resolder

fair gull
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even if he can resolder it will be worse than the factory job

fickle ore
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yeah thats probably true, bah, scrapping that idea then. Need to think of something else

fair gull
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lap the ihs done

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yes

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was on the ryzen aswell

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ryzen 2 will be the same prob

latent mural
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except the 2200g and 2400g

fair gull
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lets not talk about crappy cpus ok

latent mural
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yea

fickle ore
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this isnt soldered?

latent mural
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nope

fair gull
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its the g cpus

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they are shit anyway

fickle ore
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right so that low end ryzen arent soldered thats why it improved couple c

fair gull
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ya

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u can liquid metal them etc

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not sure if intel finally started soldering their IHS

latent mural
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they did

fair gull
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9th gen?

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or 8th?

latent mural
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yep

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9th

fair gull
fickle ore
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might LM, but would hate to reapply, atlho I understand it stops at some point becuase its done amalgamating into the nickelplating

fair gull
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should have checked before buying my cpu but good

fickle ore
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i know

latent mural
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the 9980xe is just a 7980xe but soldered and a little oc'd btw

fickle ore
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gotta make sure its copper

latent mural
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like exactly the same

ashen spindle
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really curious how the next intel cpus with more cores will deal with the heat, since they'll still be 14nm+++++++

fair gull
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well 10nm

latent mural
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you can't directly comapre lithography

ashen spindle
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10nm and its basically the 7nm amd uses, yes yes the numbers are basically just marketing symbols now

latent mural
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it's like saying "the 8350 is as fast as a 9900k, cause they both are 8 core 5ghz"

ashen spindle
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what?

fickle ore
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it is known

latent mural
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yea

ashen spindle
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you mean the fact that the numbers dont say anything? that's been known for years

latent mural
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depends on measurements

ashen spindle
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people talked about it when 14nm came out already

fair gull
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the "7nm" just means that the smallest feature on the die is 7nm doesnt mean that everything is 7nm small

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in fact many things can be way larger

fickle ore
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dont fret. amd 7nm > intel 14nm+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

fair gull
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comparison of all foundries

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and their "nanometer" stuff

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i think they use tsmc

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not sure tho

ashen spindle
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tsmc nc glofo stopped caring for 7nm for now bc business strategies

fair gull
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oh no they use global

solar hinge
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@wheat plume i indeed have a xiaomi mi 5 pro

fickle ore
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they use tsmc

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not glofo

fair gull
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do they?

fickle ore
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yyy

fair gull
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fucking hell what is the internet today

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oh right they moved from global to tsmc

ashen spindle
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yes glofo used to make them

fair gull
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with 7nm

wheat plume
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ooooh!

fair gull
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anyway as you can see in the chart they are pmuch the same

fickle ore
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tsmc a bit smaller I guess

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thinking about parts for ryzen 2 setup is fun

fair gull
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i can tell you

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how about

fickle ore
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what?

fair gull
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2 quadro rtx 8000

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a ryzen2

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128gb of ddr4 ram

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a fancy mobo

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and then u all dump it into a plastic box for veggies

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for optimal cooling

fickle ore
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-.-

fair gull
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i mean do u really want to spend hundreds of moneys on a case when u spend well over 10grand on the gpus alone?

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the rtx 8000 costs

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6500

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eur

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so you shouldnt waste money on a case

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thats why i said veggie plastic basket thingy

fickle ore
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my old case looks like someone bombed it

ashen spindle
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just put it in a fridge 4Head

fair gull
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cut some holes in it

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ez pc case

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and transportable with 2 handles

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plus stackable

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if u decide to build a second one

fickle ore
fickle ore
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Im wondering which motherboard maker has best support for BIOS releases?

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my experience with asus has been shite

fair gull
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bios releases?

fickle ore
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first ones to stop updating bioses

fair gull
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what do u mean by that

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u know that... a bios usually only gets updated to fix bugs

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except with like the current intel gen they updated bioses to implement 128gb ram

fickle ore
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theres ton more stuff that could be updated, but some don't

fair gull
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why update it

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when it works as expected

fickle ore
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why do anything at all because why bother

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??

fair gull
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idk my mobo does everything as expected

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including virtualization, raid etc

fickle ore
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had to custom my bios alot, because of things like intel MEI, sata, ethernet, cpu microcode updates etc

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that was a hassle

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it's more secure if the microcode is updated on the bios

fair gull
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ime is a joke tbh

fickle ore
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ME can't be disabled, tahts why u need to do custom bios to update fw for security updates..

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its a hassle

fair gull
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ofc ime can be disabled

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same as tpm can be disabled

fickle ore
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good luck lol

fair gull
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its literally a bios setting

fickle ore
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wasnt in sandybridge era

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cant disable if I wanted to

wheat plume
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this guys accent kills me

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so british OMFH I CANT 😂

fallow bison
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Everything better than my frikin dutch accent

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Sounds like i have a stroke 24/7

wheat plume
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oo?

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I wanna hear

fallow bison
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Join gentalk later tonight :)

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Ill be there probably

wheat plume
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o ok

fallow bison
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Welcome back

wheat plume
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yo

fallow bison
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Yeet

fickle ore
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yea what a hassle

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dont think disabling ME is possible, i dunno what Tony really meant

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intel cpu vulnerabilities are enough for me to switch

reef patrol
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Are you a corporation with secrets to keep? 😄

fickle ore
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always this same argument

ashen spindle
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was there ever a case of specter/meltdown etc. being used for malware? just curious

reef patrol
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I'm a gamer - I don't really have to care if my CPU technically has vulnerabilities. There are MUCH easier ways to grab my info...like voluntarily through Facebook 😄

latent mural
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I don't have to keep secrets if I don't want my pc to be infected with malware

reef patrol
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I'd rather have performance than crippling myself to close a door that isn't even remotely likely to be used.

latent mural
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not that an av would really protect anything

fair gull
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not to mention AMD cpus also have vulns

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and they didnt even admit to it until the example code to abuse them released

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intel was like "might be we have some"

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amd was like "ya buy us we dont have any"

fickle ore
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intel performance is compromized due to vulnerability patches

reef patrol
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Nothing happened to them - They're still there.

fickle ore
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windows 1903 improves taht performance a bit for intel

reef patrol
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Not to mention ones in your BIOS through micropatches.

fair gull
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i think if intel did tank 15% perf no one would use em anymore

fickle ore
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ya, retpotline fixes

fair gull
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weirdly people still do

fickle ore
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older intel cpu's tanked like 30%+

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newer gen, not so much

fair gull
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are we talking pentium 3?

latent mural
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no?

fickle ore
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sandybridge, ivy, nehalem etc

latent mural
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those didn't have all the vulnerabilities

reef patrol
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You can't have it all - Vulns like Spectre exist, because Intel (and AMD) designed their CPUs to predict behaviour - Which increases performance, but opens a security hole.

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Close holes, reduce performamce boost.

fair gull
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and in AMDs case put more cpu cores in to gain back

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@proud nacelle thats a year old plus yes obv a quick path to get rid of said security vulns will be shit

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but thats why they are quick... stop the leak then improve

fickle ore
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my CPU without retpotline fix can do 150 FPS in OW, 220 with the fix

ashen spindle
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put out garbage patches to reduce vulnerabilites, people complain it's not perfect, wait for them to not affect performance, people complain that there is an issue

reef patrol
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Can't have fast AND good. 😅

ashen spindle
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afaik there still hasn't really been malware abusing it and it's something so niche I dont see why it should affects anyones choice what to buy

fair gull
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gl explainin that to someone in an office

reef patrol
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Yeah... You don't need exploits like this, when your gear from Cisco has day 0s 😂

fickle ore
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because you buy amd u dont even have to care about meltdown etc

fair gull
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why do u think its still viable to use macro infections with word/excel

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or infected zips/pdfs

reef patrol
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Yeah... Hah

ashen spindle
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but I want performance not better meltdown/spectre/whatever the new one was called security

reef patrol
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You can't best stupidity out of lazy workers. bcaShame6Scared3

fair gull
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ok so i heard u are willingly going around and explaining someone to check file extensions etc

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and how the entire thing works

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nice

reef patrol
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People will always ignore procedure to get work done faster.

fair gull
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hf spending days and days

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for maybe 1 company

fickle ore
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@ashen spindle what do you mean?

fair gull
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ya dont use pcs

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thats the solution

ashen spindle
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I'm pretty sure most people here don't really argue what cpu vendor to buy from from the position of a company?

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so for personal use I dont really care about meltdown and such at all

fair gull
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same

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i go intel cause i didnt have bad experiences with them yet unlike amd

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garbage temps despite a good cooler and TG paste

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it randomly throttling

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then they replaced it

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still did the same

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when the cpu throttles in idle at 30°C

fickle ore
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intel and pigeon shite

fair gull
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thats not a me problem

reef patrol
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Intel - Because AMD haven't tied them for gaming, and I don't need 16 cores for rendering videos. bcaGuiltyCaught

fair gull
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i didnt even oc the thing

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yes

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it dropped the clock and throttled

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idk maybe

reef patrol
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That's just auto clocks.

fair gull
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no like

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my thermal probe read 30°C on the ihs (not inbetween cooler and ihs but on the ihs)

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the cpu itself usually read like 255°C

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when i checked in software

ashen spindle
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255 pepes

fair gull
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psure they dont get that hot

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but fact is

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both cpus i got did it

reef patrol
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Sounds like a broken temp sensor. That can mess with auto clocks any day.

fair gull
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right out of the box

latent mural
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is your mobo broken?

ashen spindle
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sounds more like a board issue than cpu?

fair gull
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i replaced the mobo and even tried at work

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the cpu at work worked fine

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and showed the same temp as the probe

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the cpus i personally owned both did not work

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this obv could have been really bad luck

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but

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i still rather go with intel nowadays

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yes

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and then i tried my original mobo at work

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with a cpu from my work pc

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and that worked as expected

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ok

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both mobos did exactly the same with my cpus

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and the work cpu

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both showed 255°C on my cpus

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and they both showed the right temp witht he work one

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idk what exactly the work one was

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but the cpu i got back then was an fx-6smthsmth

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how was the mobo fucked if both did exactly the same

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mobo 1 and mobo 2 showed 255 °C with the 2 cpus i owned

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and both mobos showed the right temp with my work cpu

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not hard to understand really

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exactly

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and thats why i dont trust amd

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yes latest bios and all

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like i did all the checks

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psure the mobos still exist somewhere sold em on ebay

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never got a complaint

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the cpus got trashed

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with intel i had pretty good luck in the silicon lottery

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both overclock extremly well

fickle ore
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I like the AMD processor design more, they put more stuff on the die, which is good

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igpu is irrelevant to me

reef patrol
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Intel are trying hard to remove those as well.

glad scroll
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Kinda like when Nvidia made a gold graphics card

wheat plume
#

O.o

glad scroll
#

Yeah, the Titan V

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A card derived from the Tesla family.

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3k$ though

wheat plume
#

woow

pale sigil
#

@wheat plume y tho

wheat plume
#

idk tho@pale sigil

pale sigil
#

@neat oriole Headphones

#

Wireless

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$50

#

gogogogog

fair gull
#

@glad scroll so are the quadro cards made out of gold then aswell?

#

quadro rtx 8000 is like 6.5k

glad scroll
#

@fair gull If I do recall the Titan V was a special promotion thing, like 30 years in the industry or something.

latent mural
#

No, it was gold to differentiate it from the silver gtx cards

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Sibce they wanted to spilt the titan lineup from gaming

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Same with the also golden rtx titan

fair gull
#

they should make golden rtx 8000 quadros

#

make em flat 10k

#

ez

neat oriole
#

Wireless and $50? I wouldn’t bother but if you’re looking for convenience just find something with good reviews on Amazon

pale sigil
#

For a friend

neat oriole
#

I’m not really familiar with wireless headphones besides the more higher end ones

#

Does it have to be wireless?

pale sigil
#

Ye idk why he even wants to bother

#

Earphones I can understand being wireless

#

But not headphones

ashen spindle
#

wireless headphones are amazing, but not at 50 bucks

pale sigil
#

That's what I was meaning

#

Earphones at $50 fair enough

#

But headphones

neat oriole
#

Tell him every wireless headphone under $250 is probably trash and that the only ones worth getting are usually $350 and up

#

It’s a fools game trying to find a cheap good wireless headphone

#

Tell him to get these instead

#

I’m not even joking when I say these are the best closed back headphones under $200

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These are $60

pale sigil
#

The ones you linked?

neat oriole
#

Yeah

#

They’re not wireless but they’re really good

pale sigil
#

How's bass

neat oriole
#

Superb

pale sigil
#

If only they were on prime now

neat oriole
#

Literally destroys everything under $200

#

They’re way more expensive on amazon for some reason

#

They used to be really cheap and then some reviewer hyped them up a lot

#

So now the only place to get them cheap is the official website

pale sigil
#

£55 here regardless

#

Kinda tempted

#

Better than the mx50s?

neat oriole
#

Way smoother and less bright

pale sigil
#

Bright?

neat oriole
#

Wait you mean the M50x right?

pale sigil
#

Sorry ye

neat oriole
#

Yeah these are way better maybe except comfort since they are a bit smaller

pale sigil
#

Tbh they are big on me

neat oriole
#

And bright is a term that refers to excessive amounts of treble

pale sigil
#

Ah

#

TIL

#

I'm tempted

#

Solid price and I need to replace my mx50s

neat oriole
#

I personally think the M50x is super overrated

pale sigil
#

Leather is getting meh atm

#

And I know :p

neat oriole
#

Well that’s what happens with pleather

#

Or protein leather

#

But the CALs also have pleather pads

pale sigil
#

Can't detach the wire on these?

#

Got any suggestions for attachable nice that aren't overpriced?

#

Kinda sick of using my snowball

ashen spindle
#

like one to clip to your headphones instead of a desk mic?

neat oriole
#

No unfortunately the wires aren’t detachable

#

But as long as you don’t throw them around they should last you a long time

pale sigil
#

@ashen spindle ye

neat oriole
#

And for microphones

ashen spindle
#

dont think you'll find any good ones like that

pale sigil
#

Mod mic is to expensive

neat oriole
#

You can try a v moda boom pro

#

If it’s compatible

#

What’s wrong with the snowball

pale sigil
#

Just sick of having the arm take up so much space

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And wires

ashen spindle
#

you have an arm for your snowball? distThink

neat oriole
#

That’s the sacrifice you have to make for good audio

pale sigil
#

Yanno the mic arm things

#

You clamp onto the side of the desk

neat oriole
#

Well I mean the snowball isn’t that great but it’s probably better than most headset mic

pale sigil
#

Snowball is fine

#

Shh

ashen spindle
#

are we talking about the same snowball mic?

pale sigil
#

Yes I use an arm with it

ashen spindle
#

don't use one with it?

neat oriole
#

I’m just being elitist with my full on streamer level setup dw about it

pale sigil
#

It sounds god awful if you just use the normal legs

#

Fuck me

#

Like you can hear everything around me

ashen spindle
#

wait how does using different ways to hold it affect the quality?

neat oriole
#

Just change the mic pattern

pale sigil
#

Because it's right next to your mouth with s pop filter

#

And reduced audio

#

So it's not as sensitive

neat oriole
#

Just change it to cardioid

#

It should help with isolating background noise

#

Won’t help if you put it right next to your keyboard tho

pale sigil
#

I also literally use it only for voice

#

I only got it because I got it for £25

neat oriole
#

Well you can’t get a good attachable mic for 25 quid that’s for sure

pale sigil
#

😦

neat oriole
#

Why not try the Samson Go

#

It’s small and you basically clip it to the top of the monitor

#

Sound quality is pretty decent too

fair gull
#

i heard the boom adapter is garbage

neat oriole
#

It’s still better than most headset mics

ashen spindle
#

the one big issue I have with that, is that it heavily depends on what case you use

#

I mean what is a "normal" case? grab some random tower and it could very well be something that has absolute garbage airflow

orchid rune
#

Why would u even go for an aio when u have noctua

#

Apart from looks, which for the most part is the point in custom loops too

latent mural
#

noctua needs too much space in some cases

#

the o11 doesn't fit most 120mm towers

wheat plume
reef patrol
#

The O11 was basically designed for water cooling. Loops or big AIOs. 😅

#

Personally I don't recommend AIO for performance, but for noise and ease of installation.

ashen spindle
#

we dont even know what the case was that they used, just that they put 4 fans in the front which is kinda weird to do since that is not what a normal person would do when debating what cooler to get

#

it looks like the sidepanel is not completely closed and allows airflow through it too?

reef patrol
#

The noise can definitely be better

zenith mirage
#

Yeah my PC is pretty quiet these days

#

And I got mine pretty cheap so meowshrug

reef patrol
#

And given how crappy mounting can be on a lot of air coolers, it's a price I pay. Also most entry level AIOs match similarly priced air coolers.

ashen spindle
#

imo that video just isn't a good way to show if they are good or not

reef patrol
#

"Considerably" is a strong word.

#

Because sir coolers are bulky,can be s right nightmare to install, don't look as nice and don't perform significantly better in they price range.

unique schooner
#

im very certain a AIO is as bulky

#

and as much as a nightmare

#

probably even more nightmare to install

#

cause you have to mount the radiator too

reef patrol
#

AIOs aren't bulky where it matters. In the CPU area.

#

A LOT of sir coolers have really bad mounting brackets, which just plain suck to work with. Noctua has it absolutely right with their N15 coolers though

zenith mirage
#

Idk, I think air coolers are ugly compared to an AIO. And installing an AIO has been far easier in my experience than any tower air cooler

reef patrol
#

I'm on the opposite end there. AIOs are prettier, don't occupy space in the CPU area (which had s ton of cable connectors) and are just as- if not more quiet under heavy load

#

Not all. See NZXT's Kraken series. You can turn the logo off and only have the infinity mirror effect

#

You don't look at it, so of course you wouldn't.

#

You're going to have to, because RGB lighting is s premium feature.

#

At home I use AIOs, because they perform better in tight spaces than low profile air coolers. And my main rig has a custom loop, so that kind of counts as well.

solar hinge
#

i've bought an AIO in the past, and handed it on to someone else :p

#

rocking my massive scythe mugen gen 5

pale sigil
#

Fell asleep 4am at 58% battery

#

Woke up with 14%

#

Battery is fineeeeeeeee

plush summit
#

XD

wheat plume
#

O.

#

O

wheat plume
#

Yeh 😄

#

and the sexy ass animations you can enable too

#

like wobbly window and BLUUURRRRR

#

Plasma is great ❤

#

gnome by default looks horrible

#

but in 3.32 its gotten a bit better

#

Yeah, the pantheon desktop is pretty

#

so is Deepin ❤

#

yeh

pale sigil
#

No

wheat plume
#

that uses Pantheon desktop

pale sigil
#

Elementary os

#

No

#

No no no

#

Plez no

wheat plume
#

Callum getting nam flashbacks?

pale sigil
#

Yes

wheat plume
#

o why

pale sigil
#

The shit I had to do on elementary to do basic stuff was aids, everything was so locked down

wheat plume
#

Yeah ....

#

you need to just install a package

#

i forget the name now

pale sigil
#

Honestly didn't like it

wheat plume
#

but installing the tweak tool is shit

pale sigil
#

Looked pretty though

wheat plume
#

sudo apt install software-properties-common

pale sigil
#

Elementary is for super super super super new people to Linux

wheat plume
#

Yeah

#

comes with the best kid lock too

pale sigil
#

XD

wheat plume
#

xdd

#

honestly I put Elementary on my uncles laptop

#

he liked it

#

though he only needs a web browser so I gave him firefox cause midori cannot youtube

orchid rune
#

Back to the aio topic

pale sigil
#

No u

orchid rune
#

A lot of aios are actually louder than the U12S for example

pale sigil
#

I'm switching to air when I get a new case

orchid rune
#

Noctua is a special company

#

@pale sigil what case

pale sigil
#

Idk yet

crimson wigeon
#

But KDE (or Plasma as they prefer) like all other environments struggles with multimonitor setups, but I know it's because all the devs only use laptops that very rarely have another monitor connected

#

Which is why even on my big fat desktop PC it still references a "laptop screen" like seriously

orchid rune
#

@pale sigil if u got a budget up to 150

#

Evolv p600s looks promising

#

eclipse* sorry

#

still waiting on a gamers nexus review tho 😛

pale sigil
#

Dont like it

#

tbh

orchid rune
#

fair

pale sigil
solar hinge
#

did you scan your brain and that was the outcome?

plush summit
#

Fatal error!

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x00000000

XAudio2_7.dll!0x0000000073F54C29
XAudio2_7.dll!0x0000000073F4FF91
XAudio2_7.dll!0x0000000073F4A726
XAudio2_7.dll!0x0000000073F468F3
Grip-Win64-Shipping.exe!0x00000000FBB52FFC
Grip-Win64-Shipping.exe!0x00000000FBB54DBF
Grip-Win64-Shipping.exe!0x00000000FAF3C9F0
Grip-Win64-Shipping.exe!0x00000000FAF3EB9C
Grip-Win64-Shipping.exe!0x00000000FAF300E2
Grip-Win64-Shipping.exe!0x00000000F9F6645E
Grip-Win64-Shipping.exe!0x00000000F9F666CC
Grip-Win64-Shipping.exe!0x00000000FAF3A0E5
Grip-Win64-Shipping.exe!0x00000000FA05B747
Grip-Win64-Shipping.exe!0x00000000FA0585D4
KERNEL32.DLL!0x000000008B457974
ntdll.dll!0x000000008BE0A271
ntdll.dll!0x000000008BE0A271

Crash in runnable thread AudioThread

#

sooooooo

#

did it crash because 00000000 is a null address?

ashen spindle
#

does sounds like a nullptr issues

plush summit
#

it looks like my x_audio2 backend crashed

#

and that set off a chain of events

#

what im guessing happened was
the xaudio2 backend crashed and cleared from memory, the game went to write to the last known memory location the audio service was running in....and there was nothing there

reef patrol
pale sigil
#

xD

reef patrol
#

Yes - My memes have transcended into real life.

plush summit
#

N9

latent mural
#

oof

#

many signs point to a g303 rerelease

#

rip big hands

harsh terrace
#

I finally got my hands on a new monitor, now running a dual display setup and got an issue - my new display has higher display lag than my main monitor

#

Both run on DP cables, main monitor got 165 hz refresh rate while the secondary is at 75 hz

ashen spindle
#

you mean display lag but specs say same delay for both monitors?

harsh terrace
#

Both state they should be at 1 ms

#

One key factor might also be GSync on the 165 hz display

#

Well, disabling GSync didn't do shit

ashen spindle
#

try setting that to fullscreen only.. oh nvm then lol

harsh terrace
#

Disabling FreeSync in new monitor's panel didn't do shit too xd

#

(note: I don't need gsync for my secondary screen)

ashen spindle
#

try switching the cables and ports where they are connected

harsh terrace
#

The issue isn't here when both are set to 60 hz

#

Perhaps it's just an illusion caused by various refresh rates

crimson wigeon
#

Having multiple monitors at different refresh rates can sadly cause some fuckery

ashen spindle
#

ye was going to ask, how did you determine that it has bigger delay

wheat plume
crimson wigeon
#

Because you shouldn't do that

wheat plume
#

it let me before

ashen spindle
#

I have a 100hz/60hz setup and dont notice anything,. but 165/60 might create the illusion easier

unique schooner
#

try sudo -i

#

so you are the root user

wheat plume
#

nope

crimson wigeon
#

Or perhaps xhost + to allow literally anyone to connect to your X server

wheat plume
#

o

#

hmm idk

harsh terrace
#

We can say it is just an illusion, also switching ports has negative effect on my 165 hz monitor

#

(game can't reach 165 hz)

ashen spindle
#

huh

latent mural
#

What is the polling rate on your mouse?

#

125 and 250 hz can cause problems

ashen spindle
#

is there even a good reaosn for such low polling rates nowadays? I know csgo used to like lower rates or smth but I dont know if that is still the case

latent mural
#

Ehh

#

To save battery on wireless mice, idk

#

500hz is good enough though

#

The cs pros are used to 500 usually

#

Most can't fepl the difference to 1000 though

#

They used ms mice with mlt04 sensors, oced to 500

#

Still the best laser sensor btw

ashen spindle
#

ye I meant 125, I know 500/1000 doesnt really matter anymore

latent mural
#

Yee

harsh terrace
#

@latent mural my mouse has 1000 hz poll rate, 1ms lag

#

G703

latent mural
#

There are slight noticeable differences, but if you feel those you can likely also dfferentiate a hero from a 3360 at low dpi

latent mural
#

Guess I'll be keeping my galaxy S8 for at least another year

reef patrol
#

Or my OP6... Yikes

latent mural
#

and the normal 7 is just an upgraded 6t

reef patrol
#

Also not a fan of no 3,5mm jack. Still no good shared standard for BT, and most good headphones are cabled.

latent mural
#

yep

#

and no ip rating

reef patrol
#

Don't really need that personally, but I can see the like.

latent mural
#

I legit would've killed my phone without it

#

was washing something off of my hand while I was tired and still was holding my phone

ashen spindle
#

glad apple supports older phones with OS updates for longer than most others, don't really like any of the current phones available rooSip

latent mural
#

linus also made a video about that

#

with the right phone you have a similar experience on an android device

ashen spindle
#

with official updates or with work that I have to do and using some custom os?

latent mural
#

custom os

#

not much work with good devices

#

and you can know which are good while they are out

ashen spindle
#

ye but its still work for something I barely use

pale sigil
#

I'll still be using my s7

#

Goml

ashen spindle
#

still using my iPhone 6 rooSip

pale sigil
#

Mine blew up (iPhone 6)

fallow bison
#

what

pale sigil
#

Ye

fallow bison
#

nice

ashen spindle
#

forgot the s, its a 6s

#

hopefully without the explosion feature

pale sigil
#

If I replaced my phones battery, wireless charging shouldn't be affected right as its on the motherboard itself?

#

I know it's a retarded question

reef patrol
#

Correct.

plush summit
#

depends on if you leave the wireles charging coils in or not

pale sigil
#

Just don't wanna replace my phone when I could pay £7 to buy a new battery

harsh terrace
#

Okay it's time to fuck around with audio devices

Looking for a way to "merge" two audio devices, which are my monitors with built in speakers. Basically make an audio output device that uses left speaker of my left display and right speaker of my right display

#

Perhaps the unused speakers in the middle could be utilized as central channel lul

fair gull
#

some phones have the coil for it on the battery

#

@pale sigil

#

@harsh terrace mixer is what u need

#

that way u can mix stuff but ull have the problem of prob needing to build a custom cable anyway so u can literally just make one

#

or build a small curcuit board that splits it in the right channels

harsh terrace
#

No need for actual speakers, I'm only ever using a headset and monitor speakers are used only if somebody visits me (rarely)

reef patrol
latent mural
#

It's been out for quite some while

#

Expensive af though

#

Like 200€

unique schooner
#

anyone used proxmox before and migrated a physical server to it?

reef patrol
#

Hence "on sale", Yama 😉

#

As in - Discounted, because they want to get rid of their last stock 😄

latent mural
#

oh, ok

fair gull
#

@unique schooner why would u use proxmox tbh

#

plus migrating a linux server from a to b is easy as long as both are the same architecture no matter if virtaul or physical

#

just copy the drive and boot

#

obv change fstab entries

#

and grub/syslinux

unique schooner
#

its windows

#

and why would i not use rpoxmox ?

fair gull
#

oh noe

#

well idk i gave up on win servers tbh

unique schooner
#

well

#

german industry

#

doesnt

#

not my choice

fair gull
#

i force all my customers to use linux

#

am german

unique schooner
#

lol

fair gull
#

am industry technician

#

and so far

unique schooner
#

well im the customer

fair gull
#

they all loved it

pale sigil
#

A lot of servers are Linux servers that run windows VPS servers

unique schooner
#

want to bamboozle me ?

latent mural
#

it's problematic if you have to use external software which doesn't run on linux

fair gull
#

so far most companies wanted smb shares, websites in house and some management software that was easily just a website

unique schooner
#

mate

#

its not

#

based on what i want

#

its based on what i have

#

its lovely that you can use linux

#

i cant

fair gull
#

u asked if i want to bamboozle you

#

no i dont

unique schooner
#

no i ment callum

fair gull
#

i did not translate it to your case

#

oh

#

well then i misunderstood but yes thats often the case

unique schooner
#

that im getting bamboozled ?

fair gull
#

no that its just a win vps on linux

#

even if u buy hardware

unique schooner
latent mural
#

what even is overhead?

unique schooner
#

they are physical servers

#

i have here

fair gull
#

yes

pale sigil
fallow bison
#

Holy shit that's sick

pale sigil
#

Imagine duel booting windows 10 on your phone heyimL

crimson wigeon
#

TIME TO DUEL

crimson wigeon
#
mds:Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT vulnerable
meltdown:Mitigation: PTI
spec_store_bypass:Mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp
spectre_v1:Mitigation: __user pointer sanitization
spectre_v2:Mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: conditional, RSB filling``` this list is just too damn long, how many more things are they gonna add in and zap even more performance...
fallow bison
#

Guys i need help, what's the best wireless gaming headset (pref incl 7.1) 150$ can buy?

latent mural
#

Beyerdynamics dt 770/990 + a mic

fallow bison
#

I like the arctis 7's

latent mural
#

7.1 headsets are a scam

fallow bison
#

dunno if its any good

latent mural
#

And ss headsets aren't that good

#

Wireless itself isn't that good

#

If you don't like the logitech fit you are out of luck

fallow bison
#

I wont use it for competitive play though

#

so delay etc doesnt bother me

latent mural
#

It's not that good because audio quality is worse

fallow bison
#

Right

latent mural
#

And the 2 somewhat viable options are bad

#

At least in comparison to wired headphones + a mic

fallow bison
#

i see, but i'd like to have it wireless

#

As for music ill use my speakers anyways

#

or my other headphones

#

these are mainly for gaming (basically forza only lol)

latent mural
#

There also is the manowar, but it is incredibly cheaply made

fallow bison
#

I mean, razer

#

but ill look into it

#

dont really enjoy their soundsignature

latent mural
#

It is even below razer standards

#

Why wireless anyways?

fallow bison
#

I hate wires basically

#

dont have a good way to get it to my pc

#

Just like that i dont have to take off my headphones if i need to get something when chatting

#

I mean im not really a gamer tbh

latent mural
#

Oh, ok

fallow bison
#

Im kinda into the steelseries thingy, but not sure if i'd prefer the arctis 7 over the 3 bluetooth edition

latent mural
#

There are also some from astro, but they are expensive af

#

Bt is shit for headphones

#

Tons of delay

fallow bison
#

Bluetooth does sound a bit more clear

#

True

latent mural
#

There are good bluetooth headphones, but I wouldn't rely on it being good

fallow bison
#

I think i might just cop the arctis 7's

#

I mean, the mic isnt that great

#

but its not worse than my current one either

latent mural
#

Btw 7.1 is a complete scam on headphones

#

You only have 2 ears

fallow bison
#

+the chat - game volume wheel seems interesting

latent mural
#

Yea

fallow bison
#

Yeah its mainly the software indeed

latent mural
#

It has ome interesting mixing options

fallow bison
#

And dts x isnt great

#

ome?

fair gull
#

@fallow bison i thought sound is irrelevant

#

so why are u bothering with sound signature then

fallow bison
#

Well yes, but i will listen to music soemtimes

#

Not that i'd really need the best quality, but wireless quality is better than razer's 'compressed' mid tone sound

fair gull
#

so basically u only have logitech and the manowar

fallow bison
#

ish yes

fair gull
#

build your own audio transmitter

fallow bison
#

ez

fair gull
#

the u buy/build a portable amp

#

and get good headphones

#

ez

fallow bison
#

been there done that

#

not really

latent mural
#

?

#

What

#

You want maximum noise cancelation?

zenith mirage
#

barring stuffing every spare bit of space between the ear defenders and your head with foam

#

then nah that sounds fine

latent mural
#

Just get something like bose qc 35

zenith mirage
#

i suppose the other thing you could do is get those memory foam earbud tips so they have as snug a fit as possible

latent mural
#

You can get those for half price new in box on ebay

#

Just look for any with active noise cancellation

fallow bison
#

how much are you willing to spend?

#

00f yeah no noise cancelling then

#

i thought maybe some sony's, which arent perfect but are still quite affordable

#

Stay away from sennheiser's NC though its dogshit

unique schooner
#

i paid 120 for my bose qc35 II

fallow bison
#

Thatssa steal

#

noice

unique schooner
#

@fallow bison i prefer the sh over the bose

latent mural
#

They were around that price new in box on ebay at that time

unique schooner
#

they got given away with a Huawei so you could get them cheap

fallow bison
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i returned them because the only thing it did was introduce more static over the ambient sounds

unique schooner
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mmh mine worked fine

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i had the pxc 550

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and the bose qc 35 II

fallow bison
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mx 1000?

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Not sure, can only find WH 1000's lol

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359 is close to 75

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I see

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If you are willing to spend about 130 you should cop these though: Sony WF-1000X

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For earbuds they have excellent NC, keep in mind that its no-where near headphone-level NC

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they do look a bit dumb though

latent mural
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I am also thinking of replacing my otg buds with something else

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But i hate the idea of charging my headphones

fallow bison
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They really are a good cop, and the soundquality is amazing for bluetooth

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especially with AAC codec

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They do run out quite quickly, like 3 hours on a charge, 3 charges per case

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but who really wears earbuds for 3+ hours

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just buy headphones at that point

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True

latent mural
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I meant charging them at all

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Usually my buds are in my pocket when I am not using them

fallow bison
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Its odd to begin with, but you'll end up charging them overnight every 2 days or so

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I always have them with me

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Case is small enough to fit in your pocket easily

latent mural
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Also not sure what to get

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I am thinking about wireless headphones

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Since buds don't have good audio quality

fallow bison
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Depends on how often / where you use them really

latent mural
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Is there a guide for the ne DKS?

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To uni and back

fallow bison
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Wires in ears with ANC is mainly BS

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unless its a well knwon brand like bose, which still isnt perfect

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But indeed, you could get em and return em if its shit

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Difficult to say, if youre looking for ACN, then no

unique schooner
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well bose isnt that great when it comes to quality

fallow bison
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most will just bring a lot of static

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Agreed

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But thats basically just testing and returning

fair gull
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just use the anc of android pie

fallow bison
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In ear fit is very difficult to see from a website / gather from a review

fair gull
fallow bison
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maybe third party tips