🔌│tech

[latent mural]

so I'd have toc heck if they deliver for every product manually

[pale sigil]

Wait wtf

Amd cards don't come without boxes

[latent mural]

?

[latent mural]

the mailman just hands you the card with the sipping label stuck on

[pale sigil]

Sorry, upload didn't go through

They've come without a box

[latent mural]

that is very weird

[pale sigil]

Since when is this a thing

[latent mural]

are you sure those are normal retail cards?

[pale sigil]

Yes

[latent mural]

do they have some kind of display output?

[pale sigil]

Bhahaha

They are oem

[latent mural]

didn't know you could buy those retail

[pale sigil]

I just picked the cheapest and smacked order as I was going to return anyway

It's only dvi

And yet I somehow still got 2 games

Touché

[latent mural]

those are mining cards

[pale sigil]

Well 2 games for each

This should he grounds for now having to pay for return postage

It's legit not mentioned

Anywhere xD

It's legit advertised as normal cards

[latent mural]

gimme the link

[pale sigil]

No free haribos :(

[latent mural]

tbh

quite normal

is finland even europe

[pale sigil]

Even in features it says powered by rx580

What does that even mean

[latent mural]

what?

nice

[pale sigil]

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-amd-radeon-rx-570-gaming-4g-mining-edition-graphics-card-oem

Oh or says oem at the end

[latent mural]

look at the link

the GAMING MI card is the mining version

deos it really only have dvi though?

[pale sigil]

Lol the specs are wrong

I think they sent me the wrong cards

[latent mural]

nah

you bought mining cards

oh boy

[pale sigil]

The actual name on the cards is straight up mining card rx 570 mining card

Oc

[latent mural]

quantim mechanics

[pale sigil]

Look at their specs on the site BTW

[latent mural]

nagga please

quantum mechanics are a difficult topic

@pale sigil specs look normal to me

@digital cliff you said you have difficulties understanding the concept of electricity?

even though it is extremely comparable with water

[pale sigil]

specs look normal 🤔

[latent mural]

well, idk what kind of i/o the card has

[pale sigil]

i said only dvi :p

[latent mural]

ok?

maybe there is a second revision

oh god

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/watcir.html

it's not 100% true, but pretty close

imagine that electrons are water molecules

that is how light works

[pale sigil]

tbh thats a bit worrying for someone who is not tech savy, for me i just ordered the cheapest because i was going to return them anyway :p but imagine someone who was legit new.

Saw this post with the wrong specs

[latent mural]

light is especially difficult

[pale sigil]

and no indication it was a mining card

[latent mural]

@pale sigil there is indication, but if there aren't the specified ports one more reason to rma it

[pale sigil]

There is no indication though?

Its branded a gaming card

etc

[latent mural]

the mdoel is a mining model

@fickle ore keep it simple to understand it

[pale sigil]

Yes but again someone may not understand this.

Who is not tech savy

[latent mural]

it's like you explain a baby how a door works

[pale sigil]

it should be mentioned in desc or something

Again its no issue for me but i can deffo see people not realising

Hell they even come with free games which is weird

lol

[latent mural]

electrical potential bla Bla bla free flowing electrons inside a conductor bla bla passing of electrons to another conductor bla bla

I wonder why quantum mechanics are hard

you have to look at the easy parts first

otherwise you can't get the hard stuff

[pale sigil]

BHAHAH

THEY SENT ME A 1080

580

SORRY

BUT STILL

[latent mural]

wait

rly?

one or two?

[pale sigil]

one

is a 580 and one is a 570

xD

[latent mural]

wow

[pale sigil]

Also they are refunding shipping and playing return fee

[latent mural]

how much is a used 580?

[pale sigil]

cba

tbh

its hard to sell stuff here

and if i do i have tp pay an insane % towards ebay and paypal

[latent mural]

oh right

forgot that you use normal ebay usually

[pale sigil]

gumtree within 50 mile for me is useless

[latent mural]

yee

[pale sigil]

i tried selling old hardware for 6 months once

sold on ebay fast but lost a lot due to % cut

[latent mural]

my 580 took 3 days

on ebay kleinanzeigen, which takes no revenue

[pale sigil]

its weird that even if these gpus are the code

the specs do not allign

[latent mural]

maybe tehy changed it in some revision

[pale sigil]

i cant be assed oppening them to see the seriel

[latent mural]

you should see it from the s/n

[pale sigil]

its literally a bag mate, everything is inside

[latent mural]

it should be on a sticker somewhere

[pale sigil]

not oppening them

[latent mural]

ahh, ok

how do you know it'S a 580 then?

does it say so on the invoice?

[pale sigil]

the mobo has its own sticker with the names

board

or whatever its called

the top part

[latent mural]

ahh, kk

there should be a s/n somewhere on the card though

[pale sigil]

i really cba 😛 i packed them already

[latent mural]

don't know where gigabyte puts them these days

lol

[pale sigil]

its so weird including games in mining cards

[fallow bison]

the s/n is on the card itself, the left bottom

[latent mural]

it'S from AMD, they don't care what the chip was used for

[fallow bison]

near the io ports on the mobo

[latent mural]

they get their cut no matter what

[pale sigil]

I just looked up the rev 1

still has all ports

[latent mural]

tbh the only difference the mining version has from the normal version should be no backplate and an illegal warranty

[pale sigil]

illegal warranty?

[latent mural]

3 months

in the EU they need at least one year

USA should also require at least a year

[pale sigil]

Warrenty is 36 months

Here anyway

[pale sigil]

Probably outside of the EU?

[latent mural]

maybe

[fallow bison]

it is 36 in NL too

But its void when overclocked

[latent mural]

depends on manufacturer

[fallow bison]

gigabyte

[latent mural]

EVGA even let's you swap the cooler

[pale sigil]

When the return label email has't arrived yet and post shuts in an hour https://giphy.com/gifs/reactiongifs-LRVnPYqM8DLag

[fallow bison]

lel

[pale sigil]

and its the only time i can get a lift

[latent mural]

wtf is a 580 XTR

[fallow bison]

xtreme?

Yeah default boost is higher

but the fact they say the backplate is used for cooling makes me lose interest

[latent mural]

they always say that

[fallow bison]

Yeah its so stupid

[latent mural]

as long as it doesn't choke the card I don't care

[fallow bison]

indeed

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/TFtaEX48fo4

I was using Solus 3.9 and then 3.99999999 for about two years

So I MAYY switch back to Solus, I just love it so much and it is IRISH ❤ I love to support an Irish project

[pale sigil]

Curiously is making me want to buy one

https://www.amazon.co.uk/DREVO-Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlit-Tenkeyless/dp/B01K4GXJMA/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=drevo%2B84&qid=1553003183&s=gateway&sr=8-2&th=1

[wheat plume]

why is it called the Gramr? is it because it is so light like a gram or because it can somehow help your grammar?

[pale sigil]

ask them :p

[wheat plume]

xd

[fair gull]

the gram joke wont be understood by americans

[wheat plume]

cough cough LG Gram cough cough

[latent mural]

of course they mean the mythical sword

[pale sigil]

guess i wont be returning these gpus today

[wheat plume]

AGHHH I wanna switch to Solus again xdd

oh?

[pale sigil]

they have not sent me return label yet :<

[wheat plume]

oo

[fair gull]

@pale sigil welp i didnt get my second rtx 2080ti back yet

[wheat plume]

the parcel I am expecting today , I have not heard anything about it and the tracking website cant find the number they gave me :/

[wheat plume]

Calling the beta ROM a weekly update isn't accurate :/
It's more like every three to four weeks

[latent mural]

holy

the new noctua 120mm tower weighs over 30% more than their previous one

https://noctua.at/de/home-product/nh-u12a

without fans

[zenith sonnet]

Is that the really good one?

140mm when

[latent mural]

They already took their damn time for 140mm

[ashen spindle]

man this google cloudplay thing is so weird, you can already tell it's less mature than RTX on launch

[chrome estuary]

I'm seriously considering buying a different phone. I've got a Note 9 (SD US Unlocked) and with the addition of Pie which is a flaming pile of shit. I'm seriously tempted to buy a new phone just so I can get an unlocked bootloader.

[karmic grail]

OnePlus 6/6T 🤔

Poco F1?

[wheat plume]

Yes get a bloody pocophone!

easy af to install custom roms, but why bother cause miui for poco is amazing

[chrome estuary]

I...

well I've looked into it

[wheat plume]

Pie isnt shit!

[chrome estuary]

But no headphone jack and the fucking notch

[wheat plume]

i thought the Poco had a jack...O.O

[chrome estuary]

None of their others do.

oh no it does

that's surprising.

[wheat plume]

yeh it does!

[chrome estuary]

I'm almost tempted by their new flagship Mix... But no jack.

[karmic grail]

OnePlus 6 for OxygenOS
Pocofone for everything else

[wheat plume]

i wish I could afford a Mix 3

that thing is sex

[chrome estuary]

OnePlus has the same issue... No jack, as well as the addition of no sdcard. And yes I use my microSD card a lot.

I don't need dual sims. I need a sim and sdcard.

Plus USB 2.0 on a fucking flagship with USB-C?

[reef patrol]

My OP6 has a jack.

[wheat plume]

Then I recommend the Redmi note 5

the one with duel cameras and an sd 636

that was my last phone and i loved it so damn much

I put AOSP extended on it a few weeks ago

[chrome estuary]

oh did they remove the jack from 6 to 6t?

[wheat plume]

YES ;-;

[reef patrol]

😄

Silly OP

[chrome estuary]

What is with this super hardon for removing GOOD USEFUL FEATURES AND ADDING SHIT LIKE NOTCHES

gah

[fleet basin]

Everyone wants to copy the worst ideas from Apple

[karmic grail]

yes
Probably one of the stupidest decisions

[reef patrol]

WATERPROOFING

[chrome estuary]

I bought a note 9 for a reason and I bought the wrong fucking one.

[reef patrol]

No I don't care about it either 😄

[wheat plume]

wdym the wrong note 9??

[chrome estuary]

I should've bought an Exynos but I didn't read up on it.

[karmic grail]

ooF

[wheat plume]

oohhhhh

right

damn

yeh

[chrome estuary]

I got a snapdragon instead and they've all got locked bootloaders

[wheat plume]

:/

do you have the update to One UI?

[chrome estuary]

except for the international one but since it's a solitary event, good fucking luck getting custom roms.
Yeah I do and One UI is disgusting garbage. I'm about to upgrade back to Oreo

[fleet basin]

The argument of "we had to remove it for waterproofing" is demonstratably BS as the Samsung Galaxy S... 5, I think, has a high waterproof rating with a removeable battery and headphone jack

[wheat plume]

One UI + Good Lock = custom ROM level customising

[karmic grail]

Really wish the 1+6 had the teardrop notch instead of the fat notch

[wheat plume]

my phone doesnt have a notch 😄

[chrome estuary]

I could live with the teardrop.

It's why I can't get a poco f1

[wheat plume]

the Mi 9 has a teardrop one

i think it has a headphone jack too but im not sure

[chrome estuary]

no, not that i can see.

Kinda upset about FHD+ and not QHD+ but I can get over it.

[karmic grail]

But then it is one of the "slimmer" notches amongst the fat notches from phone
Google Pixel 2 XL wheeze

[wheat plume]

i would prefer FHD+

1. I cant see the difference
2. better battery life

QHD+ is stupid on a 6 to 7 inch screen

[karmic grail]

^^^^^^^

[chrome estuary]

I've noticed it on the note 9, especially when samsung just has to make every fucking ui thing super massive even when all the settings are on smallest possible.

[wheat plume]

huh?

[chrome estuary]

Yeah it's disgusting, even worse on One UI.

[wheat plume]

half the screen to tell me what app im in 😂

I know its to reach better but meh

[chrome estuary]

also I'm pretty sure the mi 9 doesn't have a MicroSD slot so... fuck I really wanted it but that's pretty much an instant no go for me.

[karmic grail]

I don't think much phones have SD card slots anymore, with the standard being nearly 128gb

[wheat plume]

i have 64GB and i dont even use near that amount

[karmic grail]

Was a bit sad that the 1+6 didn't have it cause I would of moved all my old photos from my ZenFone 3 with the microSD

[chrome estuary]

I know but I like using my MicroSD still. Especially if I'm doing backups and shit so I can push all my files to it and not fear losing anything.

[karmic grail]

:^(

[chrome estuary]

I've refused Pixels and 1+ because of these reasons.

[chrome estuary]

TBH I'm almost tempted to buy the Note 9 again but Exynos.

[wheat plume]

oo

[karmic grail]

How do you have like no photos/videos

online backup?

[wheat plume]

I recently installed the beta version of the rom and that essentially does a factory reset

• a mixture of cloud backup in the mix

[karmic grail]

ah

I don't do online backups 😂

[wheat plume]

I use Mi cloud

since its built into the phone

and I dont care much for google drive

[karmic grail]

I've always used Google photos

Since I've never bothered to learn another backup program

[wheat plume]

i use google photos but I turn off auto backup

I dont like the miui gallery app very much except the hidden albums feature

[karmic grail]

I have autoback up on when I'm connected to wifi, the stock gallery app has a "hidden" album feature

[chrome estuary]

3.3GB on phone
49.8GB on SD Card
Both are 128GB

[wheat plume]

i dont have any wifi to connect to

my phone is my only source

[karmic grail]

oof

I abuse my unis wifi to upload/install stuff

[wheat plume]

😂

[chrome estuary]

i have shit wifi at home

so yeah that's all i got

[wheat plume]

when im at my college accomodation my phone's data connection is really fast

but when im at home it cant even reach 1mbps download

:/

[karmic grail]

f

[chrome estuary]

to get another Note 9 (but the correct one this time.)
It's gonna be like 600$ which hurts because I wanna by a new stove which is gonna be like 400-500$

[wheat plume]

:/

[karmic grail]

rip

my home wifi is like
half of this

I just end up using my mobile data for 99% of the time

[chrome estuary]

damn. that's like double my download speed and 12 times my upload.

[wheat plume]

the fastest my download ever got was 10mbps

[chrome estuary]

mine is lucky to get 8mbps most days.

[karmic grail]

ADSL life?

[wheat plume]

adsl?

[karmic grail]

for your home internet

[chrome estuary]

"Why do you hate it out here so much?"
Land sucks, net sucks, electricity is expensive as fuck, house sucks, no cell signal sucks.

[wheat plume]

my home internet is my phone's hotspot

[karmic grail]

😶

[wheat plume]

it is too expensive to get an unlimited data deal where we live

it would cost like 80 a month

thats just mental

so I can get it for 20 a month with this phone deal

[chrome estuary]

yeah i totally want to spend 350-400$/m on electricity.

[karmic grail]

I abuse my mobile carriers ($5 40gb/30days) deal

Usually need 1-2 a month

[chrome estuary]

my friend, my guy.

That's my desktop alone. Let's not include the 20-30GBs/m my phone uses.

and however much dad uses

[karmic grail]

I'll check on my PC usage but this is my phone

[wheat plume]

Since the start of March

[ashen spindle]

https://gyazo.com/25e8f417393952dbb105ab2ed15b3430 oh, bit more than I expected

[wheat plume]

O.O

oh shit

[chrome estuary]

I'd have to have my internet constantly going to hit something like that.

[karmic grail]

FBI knocks on your door

[wheat plume]

Interesting

[ashen spindle]

I dont even torrent

[chrome estuary]

i do

[karmic grail]

FBI walks off

[wheat plume]

Firefox nightly!!

[ashen spindle]

https://gyazo.com/1dc4e89e98f675bfc254e6fbf5724c2a

[karmic grail]

Y'all are crazy

[chrome estuary]

1.14 on mobile
10 on wifi

[wheat plume]

that font....oh my

no

[chrome estuary]

I literally don't even notice it anymore

[karmic grail]

that font

😷

[wheat plume]

I found that on MIUI, if you change the font, you can no longer be able to tell if an email is unread or not in gmail cause the title is the same font and no longer bold

so I kinda have to use the default font :/

[chrome estuary]

yeah i need to start backing all my shit up to my microSD for a factory reset when I flash oreo to my phone

[wheat plume]

Why Oreo?

[karmic grail]

Just don't do a me and brick the phone trying to update

[chrome estuary]

Because one UI is disgusting trash.

[wheat plume]

i think it is not the worst

I prefer to whatever LG are doing thats for sure

and also Sony

[karmic grail]

OneUI isn't too bad

[chrome estuary]

Literally every aspect of it makes me want to vomit blood.

[wheat plume]

....

i like it has dark theme tho

thats neat

[chrome estuary]

I fervently loathe it.

the only good part of it is dark theme

[wheat plume]

i really love AOSP extended

[chrome estuary]

I can't. Locked note 9

I'd instantly be on lOS if i could.

[wheat plume]

I am tempted to install it on my current phone but I do not want to risk it

if I fuck up I wont have a phone or wifi

[karmic grail]

OxygenOS ♥️

[wheat plume]

Yeh

I have no wifi at home

too expensive

then I will have to pay an extra phone deal

and the cheapest unlimted data plan is 60

:/

rn I get unlimited for 20

o? im not sure

no clue

[chrome estuary]

I've asked AT&T and a few other places. They've denied the ability.

[wheat plume]

my phone carrier deny the ability to use the phones hotspot for wifi but I have been doing it for 3 years 😂

[chrome estuary]

Nope. Not for the Note 9

yeah i know

[wheat plume]

when I installed AOSP extended on my last phone I didnt install custom recovery
I just booted into TWRP using fastboot on my PC and connecting my phone
then using TWRP to install the ROM and GAPPS

so yeh, TWRP is not installed on that phone either

[chrome estuary]

Also I hate this cause I've got to use ADB to remove all the bloatware and shit and have to be extremely careful to not disable anything for dEX

[wheat plume]

i love dEx ❤

[chrome estuary]

Same. I've got an HP Elite X3 for it and it's flawless. That's another reason why I don't want to part with the note 9

desktop Experience.

does as the title is named.

[wheat plume]

it is the desktop like experience when you connect a samsung phone to a monitor

that thing

taking you dont like it?

i find the idea of the System76 Lemur fascinating
it is a fairly well specced PC that can be mounted to the back of your monitor

[chrome estuary]

that's an understatement.

I could get an intel nuc for cheaper i think

it's a punch to the gut for sure.

yeaaa

i mean for the lowest end model of the meerkat... it's 600$

[wheat plume]

Anyone know of Slimbook? they do linux laptops too

I have not seen much about them other than KDE Neon promoting them as they use Neon OS as default

[chrome estuary]

a similarly priced nuc gets you a faster processor, more ram, and a larger SSD if you shop carefully.

[wheat plume]

what version?

[chrome estuary]

I'd have more fun eating a motorcycle bolt by bolt

[wheat plume]

i used KDE Neon Unstable Dev version on my laptop for about 4 months and had no issues

well, the media keys on my laptop didnt work ;-; exceptfor volume and mute

i cba to try tbh

[chrome estuary]

I want to get an intel nuc for a hackintosh machine as they're perfect for it. Out of sight, out of mind, fast for the machine, makes the new mac mini look like a broken toaster.

[wheat plume]

I assigned some touchpad gestures to do it instead

you wanna see my rice of it I made?

i will try to find my screenshot for you if you do

KDE Plasma desktop

it takes a while to make it look this way but i love it

xd what desktop you on?

hm??

window manager then?

ah!! nice nice

I used to use i3-gaps

I liked it a lot

it is why I love the look of apps with no decorations on them now

thats why I also rmeoved them on that screenshot too

I used the keys I used on i3 to close and holding super key and left click can move windows around

super key plus right click can resize

I am not using it anymore
I switched back to Manjaro Gnome

the sound quality on Manjaro Gnome in particular using headphones it much better than any other version of Manjaro I have used

and IDK why that is

Yeh , they mus tbe doing something different, or the gnome sound system uses something in the background

also I like the elegance of gnome 3

you can really make it look slick

and I use the Nord theme

with Kohrla icons

and Montserrat font

cause I love Montserrat

😄 Have fun using openbox

what app set do you use?

like for your file manager and text editing and photos

you know how there are gnome apps and mate apps and cinnamon apps
the core apps that are pre installed

terminal file manager?

noice

ahah! the true OG

[chrome estuary]

I'll give One UI a single day.

[wheat plume]

I recommend LSD instead of LS, it is so useful

😛

ikr but I approve

[chrome estuary]

ls -la

lsla

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/cz25mFcAOwU

this is how I found it

nu??

(what is the difference??)

😛

[chrome estuary]

htop is basically a CLI where as top is... a much worse looking CLI

[wheat plume]

ahah xd

htop is pretty ok looking

[chrome estuary]

last time I used it. TOP was a bitch to look at IIRC

htop wasn't bad.

[wheat plume]

A E S T H E T I C

[chrome estuary]

more like oh my god my dyslexia why

there was no seperation of text

htop has nice lines and stuff

top was just "hey guys were all here now."

[wheat plume]

I love telling people I use LSD

😂

I recommend it to anyone!

[zenith mirage]

Man, LSD seems cool

[wheat plume]

you do need to have nerd fonts installed to fully experience it

that way you get all the icon gloryness

[chrome estuary]

I'm sorry i thought we could be friends

I guess not now

[wheat plume]

nu...you can use the same font but itll only pull the icons from nerd fonts

Yeh , you must try LSD

it is super nice

i am nearly 100% certain they knew what it sounded like when they made this

and I think it is new also so it may have come out around the same time as Linux 4.20

ahahah!!!

Yeh I use it on Manjaro

i updated last weekend

[chrome estuary]

ever hear your alarm when it's not time to wake up and just cringe

sarcasm

[wheat plume]

That's why I did this

[chrome estuary]

oww

yeah mine starts at 4am and that's the only one.

[wheat plume]

:OOO

4am?

adfuq?

dafuq*

[chrome estuary]

4am to get up.
I leave at 4:15 for work
Get there at 5
start work at 5:30.

[wheat plume]

;-;

wow

[chrome estuary]

Okay Good Lock is great. I hate how having a battery percentage still left the little drawable battery icon

[wheat plume]

I do like good lock
it would be the only reason I would get a samsung phone

[wheat plume]

No more text support?? ;_; fucking Google

[karmic grail]

[karmic grail]

$10 no RGB cable tho
Might nag AMD for one

[karmic grail]

is it just me or I can't tag Yamatoklok?

hmm weird

shit

[fallow bison]

R i p

Is it a modular cable?

[karmic grail]

no it's the RGB cable off the Wraith Prism

That bottom one

[fallow bison]

No clue, you might be able to diy some cable though

[karmic grail]

One of the end is just a 4pin RGB connector, but the end that plugs into the cooler looks like a proprietary connector

[latent mural]

@karmic grail I mean I could give you mine, doubt that AMD AUS is gonna like that though

didn't you say you got it from a friend

[karmic grail]

yeah he's long sold the 2700x

He kept the cooler cause the buyer didn't need it

[latent mural]

rip

go on ebay

and find a person that made a picture of the box

and get his invoide

otherwise let me get home and photoshop it for you

[karmic grail]

I honestly just need the S/N

I can Photoshop one of my old receipts thats digital

[latent mural]

yee

my s/n is german though

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AMD-Ryzen-7-2700x-8-Core-16-Thread-Processor/293011283329?hash=item4438d55d81:g:P-cAAOSwcgNcjjeA

the one of this guy is too

at least very likely

[karmic grail]

Wait how do you know a S/N is German

unless your saying where you bought it

[latent mural]

look at where the seller comes from

[karmic grail]

ah

Thought there was a number/word on the SN that says it's german

[latent mural]

maybe

idk

[karmic grail]

F can't find any 2700X for sale in Aus on eBay

There's 1 but no SN

[latent mural]

any other australian used markets?

[karmic grail]

I'll try gumtree

[latent mural]

already checked gumtree

[karmic grail]

nope none

[latent mural]

btw

do you have the other cable?

[karmic grail]

no

I don't need the USB one, only need the RGB one

I don't even have another USB port plug

[latent mural]

oof

[karmic grail]

It's a heavy cooler I'm not gonna lie

[latent mural]

nah

[karmic grail]

alot heavier than expected lets say that

[latent mural]

https://noctua.at/en/nh-u12a

take a look at that

it's 760g without the fans

with the fans it's heavier than my keyboard at work

[karmic grail]

wtf .7kg

Feels like it would sag/put alot of stress where it's mounted

[latent mural]

They have a bigger one

but this one amazes me

took them years to develop

it'll be expensive af though

[karmic grail]

it's noctua it's bound to be expensive
But the price/performance is unbeatable

[latent mural]

msrp is 99€/$

so it get'S beaten by the NH-D15 in price

[karmic grail]

😷

[latent mural]

the fans are really expensive to make

and the heatsink is much denser then their previous ones

[karmic grail]

158aud (before price markup at PC shops)

Probably 169-179

[zenith sonnet]

It'll probably last a decade or two

So, it's good price/performance

You'll probably also get upgrade kits for the next sockets for free, if they can make it compatible

[latent mural]

ik

but the new one is pretty muhc only good if you need the formfactor

at least until the price drops

since it's more expensive than the NH-D15

[zenith sonnet]

I got one for my decade old D14 for free when I switched to LGA2011

[latent mural]

ik

noctua is great

their products aren't expensive because of huge markups

[zenith sonnet]

I'm still going to try water, though

This Summer

[latent mural]

open loop or aio?

[zenith sonnet]

Open

Probably

Nothing is decided yet

[latent mural]

I want to, but it's so expensive

[zenith sonnet]

Either way, the VII deserves a custom cooler

[latent mural]

didn't EK bring out one

[zenith sonnet]

And I want more MHz out of the 3800X or whichever it'll be

[latent mural]

nvm, they plan to bring out one

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/gpu_displays/ek_appears_to_be_preparing_an_amd_radeon_vii_water_block/1?fbclid=IwAR3wC_0Vz0NOLrgCvOE_aHS2p5HTAqTgCXP6ZLQLJOUpt4SaP81r1-t8hxA

[zenith sonnet]

It does benefit a lot

I think 2200 MHz should be no problem for the cards under water

[latent mural]

not blowing out your ears will also be an option

[zenith sonnet]

Honestly, noise is ok if you undervolt ^^

Better than the stock 290X was

[latent mural]

don't remind me of that

I'm happy I had the aio 390X from poercolor

although the shitty asetek pump died

and while trying to repair the card I bricked it

[karmic grail]

@latent mural do you mind if I borrow your 2700X S/N just for the RGB cable replacement off AMD?

[latent mural]

im 100% certain they won't like mine

can give you my invoice etc

[karmic grail]

"yeah I bought this 2700x from my friend off discord, gave me a great deal"

[chrome estuary]

I'm going to be getting a top of the line Zen2 chip and selling my 2700x to a friend.

[latent mural]

the weirdest part would be that I didn't even have it for a week

and ryzen 2000 != zen 2

[karmic grail]

hMmmmm

Would they really check so deep into where the S/N came from...

[latent mural]

and my invoice is from the 14th

they want the invoice

which is undoubtly german

[karmic grail]

use your S/N and my invoice?

I'll PS my invoice

[chrome estuary]

I know Zen 2 isn't Ryzen 2X00

[latent mural]

who is buying a cpu and sells it after a couple of days becasue of rumors that a newer one will be out in 3 months

[karmic grail]

impulse sell

[chrome estuary]

Oh if you're talking about me. I've had my 2700x for a while.

[latent mural]

I legit got mine on friday

[chrome estuary]

Oh damn

[latent mural]

btw, I have a chance to trade my zotac 1080 for a nitro+ vega 64

should I take it

my 1080 doesn't OC at all btw

[chrome estuary]

IDK. I don't remember the Vega 64 being much better

[karmic grail]

I've heard good things about my friends Vega 64

Runs cool

[sudden glacier]

vega 56 is currently competing with a 1080 by performance updates, so sounds like a good deal

vega 64 is probably way above

[latent mural]

the single best thing for me that the backplate isn't partially yellow

bad part is, that I have no guarantee to not be scammed

and I have no card to use in the meanwhile

except a gtx 750ti

[karmic grail]

oh not a hand to hand trade?

[latent mural]

well, he lives like 400 km away

more like 500 even

[chrome estuary]

I think I'll stick with my EVGA GTX 1080

[latent mural]

I could also get an asus strix

which is much closer

[karmic grail]

cries in aorus 1070

[latent mural]

don't knoiw if it fits in my case though

already pretty tight fit

[karmic grail]

Aren't strix cards pretty short

They are triple fan but their shorter than most triple fan cards

wait similar length to my aorus

[latent mural]

the vega 64 is pretty tall

[karmic grail]

oh width wise?

[latent mural]

from the motherboard outwards

card has aboput 1.6cm space

[karmic grail]

that's alright not too close

[latent mural]

fortunatley teh power connectors are recessed

those almost touch the window on my 1080

[karmic grail]

Oh forgot about that

[latent mural]

the asus card seems t obe smaller in general, should be no problem

[karmic grail]

90° 8/6pin adaptor 🤔

@latent mural I'll try AMD replacement with your S/N, send S/N in pm?

[latent mural]

ye

wtf

what color does the fk2 wheel have?

kk

so one of the newest ones

[karmic grail]

inb4 Tino found his endgame mouse

[latent mural]

nice

[karmic grail]

time for mods Tino 🤔

[latent mural]

maybe consider the 305, if you are interested in wireless

weird that he had the 102 in finland

should be a 203 in europe

[karmic grail]

Paracord + skates + grips

Next time I go Japan imma buy a "logicool" mouse

Name sounds damn cool

[latent mural]

ok, just sold my card

[karmic grail]

750ti time

[latent mural]

ym 1080

dude comes by later this day with his vega 64

wanted to try something different

is a sidegrade

will maybe change with AMD finewine

if the vega OCs at all it'll be an upgrade

since mine doesn't

but that card has waterblocks readily available

dammit

I have to clean up my room today

frick

[karmic grail]

I nearly bought a 1060 6gbwhen I was building a pc

youch

130aud

Japanese logitech

[fallow bison]

Lmao

[sudden glacier]

Darre and The cooler Darre

[fallow bison]

Hey hey hey calm down you lil

[wheat plume]

Dayumm Daniel

[solid osprey]

Can anyone tell me which screw it is?

Planning to watercool ny 2080ti haha

Cant get better hm

Me2 lol never saw anything like that before

[fallow bison]

Maybe contact EK or the gpu manufacturer

[fair gull]

u see that not the screw

thats just the threadinsert

u can see how the profile grips the material around so it doesnt rotate when screwing in a screw

cant imagine that being a screw tbh

[latent mural]

@solid osprey just tell us which model it is

makes it easier

if this is the gainward phoenix GS, like the pictures suggest it should have the standard PCB

which makes it compatible with any founders waterblock

[fair gull]

that doesnt tell him which screw that is or does it?

oh wait

he wanted to get a waterblock

[latent mural]

well it'S screwed in from the backside

[fair gull]

nvm me

ya thats what i thought

[latent mural]

don't know why the screw would matter in that case

idk why he exactly asked for the screw

[fair gull]

i think he wants to get a driver to take it a apart

or well know if he has a screwdriver to remove it

[latent mural]

will likely be a standard philips head

[fair gull]

but honestly like without wanting to sound rude or mean... if u cant tell that this isnt a screw then u shouldnt buy a custom waterblock for the gpu

[latent mural]

if he doesn't have a fitting screwdriver and is planning to do something related to electronics he should get an ifixit kit

well, a couple of years ago backplates were far of standard

[fair gull]

should always just get an ifixit kit

[latent mural]

if you have more than 0 hands, yes

[fair gull]

imma buy a xiaomi magic wand or what its called aswell

[latent mural]

you mean a hitachi magic wand

[fair gull]

wowstick

thats what i meant

and no i dont have anyone to pleasure with a magic wand

[latent mural]

lol

[fair gull]

https://www.amazon.de/Elektrischer-Schraubendreher-wiederaufladbarer-Akkuschrauber-Schrauben-Bits/dp/B07H35NY46/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3GBNT0THW1T81&keywords=xiaomi+wowstick&qid=1553082058&s=gateway&sprefix=xiamoi+wo%2Caps%2C170&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1

like that

[latent mural]

looks nice

tbh I'd prefer it non electrical

[fair gull]

well i want it cause it is electronic

and i really hate taking apart notebooks cause my wrist hurts like shit after 3 or 4 a day

[latent mural]

iot screwdriver when?

ok, understandable

[fair gull]

sadly it doesnt have a clutch to regulate torque

[latent mural]

I'm not screwing around so much that it hurts

tbh, since it'S made for small electronics it should likely not have too much torque at all

[fair gull]

thats what i do like 5 times a day

[latent mural]

looks pretty legacy to me

[fair gull]

most business models have a cd drive still

especially in germany thx to the Finanzamt

heck sometimes they still ask for floppies

[latent mural]

wtf

can floppies rot like cds?

[fair gull]

yes everything out of plastic can

[latent mural]

I meant in a reasonable time

CDs start to rot after "only" a fw decades

[fair gull]

oh data rot

ya around 20years

[latent mural]

which most floppys likely have passed by now or if not very soon

[fair gull]

well u can just rewrite them

the just demagnitize

[latent mural]

oh, ok

imo cd content that isn't available in digital form should become free to archive

[fair gull]

u can archive what u want

[latent mural]

as in archive.org archiving

[fair gull]

u just cant share it

[latent mural]

not locally

[fair gull]

oh

that wont happen tho

[latent mural]

cause what am I gonna od if my HDD dies?

ik

[fair gull]

cause really old cds dont use produkt keys

[latent mural]

ik

but if it isn't available digitally isnt it usually abandonware?

[karmic grail]

❤ finally seeing it at night

[wheat plume]

oo

[latent mural]

AyyyMD

[fair gull]

@karmic grail its 1:34pm

[latent mural]

can't wait for my vega

is it though?

[karmic grail]

AyyyMD

Is it really

[fair gull]

@latent mural id recommend time.is

[karmic grail]

IT SOUNDS LIKE A JET ENGINE WTF

[latent mural]

bob discovers air coolers

[karmic grail]

wait nvm

[fair gull]

no bob just discovered the shitty amd coolers

[karmic grail]

The AIO is controlling fan speed

[latent mural]

better than intel coolers

[fair gull]

not all intel coolers tho

[latent mural]

except their aio

[fair gull]

they old ones from the first pentiums were baller

[latent mural]

yes

they had to cool how many watts?

[karmic grail]

@latent mural

[fair gull]

90watts i believe

[karmic grail]

whEEZe

[fair gull]

at least the pentium4 i have is 90W

[latent mural]

you think you can cool a pentium 4

[fair gull]

its a PGA one not LGA one

[latent mural]

without ln2

[karmic grail]

Should I use that SN

🤔

it's literally tempting me

[reef patrol]

For what 😁

[fallow bison]

Thats really sketchy bob

S/n might refer to other details than yours

[latent mural]

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/p18k-the-world-s-longest-lasting-smartphone#/

energizer is really gonna do it

[wheat plume]

they did it

that thing is a massive battery bank with a phone included

[neon palm]

It takes about 8.5 hours to fully charge the P18K. 😂

[latent mural]

depends on their fast charge

[neon palm]

that's from their faq

[latent mural]

oof

ok, then, nevermind

they expect me to sleep for 8.5 hours

[neon palm]

yeah who got time for that shit

[latent mural]

why does it take so long?

my ulefone power had 6000 mAh

and it took 2 hours

[neon palm]

'cause it's a 18000mAh battery being charged thru USB

[plush summit]

well

realisticly if you want your battery to last...you would never charge to 100%

[latent mural]

even better for charging

[neon palm]

it's just silly, you'd be better off with a decently sized hot swappable battery + built in secondary battery

[latent mural]

yep

[neon palm]

you could hot swap batteries for ages

[latent mural]

something like an lg g5 + internal battery

[wheat plume]

my redmi note 5 pro has 4000mAh battery

lasted so long when not using it for wifi hotspot

[latent mural]

well, 3000+ is pretty much the norm now

except for apple

[wheat plume]

if the pixel3 had a 4000mAh battery

it would be best phone

[latent mural]

just a big battery is not everything

just improving software can do a lot

[wheat plume]

Yeh I know that for a fact
my elephone S8 had shit battery life

and it over heated too :/

worst phone I ever had

had also a 4000mAh battery

barely lasted 3 hours ;-;

[latent mural]

my brother has that one

[wheat plume]

oo

[latent mural]

his lasts pretty long

[neon palm]

were you using stock os?

[wheat plume]

the one that came with the phone

[latent mural]

my brother is definetley using stock os

[wheat plume]

it looked like stock

but with some shitty duraspeed thingy

[latent mural]

the best one was his previous one

some vernee

[wheat plume]

oo

[latent mural]

which kept replacing his wallpaper with a picture of a dolphin

[wheat plume]

hmmm strange

[latent mural]

my umi once managed to mess up how much internal storage it had

and said it has 64gb instead of 32

[wheat plume]

dafuq

[latent mural]

which resulted in funny calculations

[wheat plume]

r/softwaregore xd

[latent mural]

the consumer want a glass back though

at least most want it

the galaxy s5 for example was water resistant enough to go underwater and had a removable battery

at least samsung vastly improved their batteries after the note 7

[reef patrol]

Glass back means better reception.

[latent mural]

good luck making a metal phone with removable battery

that one almost requires a plastic back

and making that sealed from water with a case is unacceptable

[reef patrol]

iPhones are fairly easy to replace batteries on. At least the ones mortals can afford

[latent mural]

yea

[reef patrol]

Fuck trying to bother redoing the liquid seal though.

[latent mural]

"user replaceable"

only requires you to void your warranty

or whatever is left, since your liquid indicators recognize slight dampness as water

[reef patrol]

Those have repeatedly been called bs by consumer rights folks and courts here.

They have to prove actual damage to components.

[latent mural]

ik

still isn't user replaceable

otherwise basically any phone counts as user replaceable

[reef patrol]

True. It's DIY hobbyist replaceable though.

[latent mural]

ye

but everything is

[reef patrol]

Doesn't require super special tools (unlike literally everything else in a modern iPhone)

[latent mural]

samsung would be one of the best phone companies, since they provide every replacement part first party

yea

only like the screwdriver for the screw they developed

[pale sigil]

You had one freaking job oculus

One fucking job

Why the hell have they made the new rift internal tracking

[latent mural]

ok, got vega now, wat do

[sudden glacier]

stream 4k with 4% cpu usage like a boss

[latent mural]

i have a 2700X and don't stream, so that won't matter

[fallow bison]

I know what to do

overclock

[plush summit]

alright....i got an idiot who thinks that the human eye can only "see 60 fps"

help

[fallow bison]

Oh no

Oh god
Kill it with fire

[fast crown]

"it clearly can see only 30fps" Kappa

^actually my brother

he is still alive somehow

[latent mural]

well, it's a strix card so I need to replace thermal pads

[fallow bison]

Kill it with more fire

Oh F

[plush summit]

what do i do

[fallow bison]

Wikipedia

[sudden glacier]

you're probably getting trolled

[plush summit]

i wish

[sudden glacier]

just tell them eyes dont see "frames per second", they can only see change in light

actually "seeing" itself is just a concept, but that goes too deep

[plush summit]

i wish they were

[sudden glacier]

[sudden glacier]

Nah his brain only works at 60Hz

[sudden glacier]

how I usually show ppl how much 144Hz makes a difference:
go into a FPS game like OW, load up training
set the screen hz or limit the fps to 30 vs 60 vs 144

[plush summit]

[sudden glacier]

every single person that tried it noticed a huge difference

[plush summit]

this guy is litteraly an idiot

[sudden glacier]

even my dad

and the only screen he sometimes looks at is the news at 8 and his phone

[plush summit]

your eyes dont work like sli or crosfire cards

[fallow bison]

He's now litterally saying his bike can only go half speed with 1 wheel instead of 2

Fucking show him the difference if you ever get the chance to

[plush summit]

hes in the us

[fallow bison]

O

[plush summit]

not my friend

he is an actual idiot

[sudden glacier]

he's probably one of those ppl that will still say "I see no difference" after looking at it for less than a second

and refuses to look at it again

[plush summit]

you cant fix the usa XD

[pale sigil]

Can we plez shit on oculus together

[plush summit]

no

its good

[pale sigil]

No

[plush summit]

vr sucks becuse i get a headache whenever i try it

[pale sigil]

Rift S needs a lot of hate right now

[plush summit]

there for vr shoiuld be illegal

[ashen spindle]

wait why hate on Rift s? what is it doing wrong?

[pale sigil]

They scrapped external tracking and went with a wmr design

[ashen spindle]

I still dont get it?

[pale sigil]

Internal tracking is shite

[ashen spindle]

like do you hate not needing extra tracking stations?

[pale sigil]

Internal tracking right now is really really bad

It's unstable and useless outside he fov

It cannot track fast movements

[ashen spindle]

according to the people who tried it its better than the current oculus?

[pale sigil]

Source?

[ashen spindle]

3 people I know that tried it in person

[plush summit]

what

the

fuck

[pale sigil]

Yes but have they tried to actually break it outside of the demos?

Cos demos are focusing on fov games

[ashen spindle]

they are gamedevs and make/made vr games so I'd assume they know what they tried

[ashen spindle]

also I think ars has an article that also says it felt better

[pale sigil]

It's still such a downgrade

[ashen spindle]

is it though

[pale sigil]

The ipd is a huge huge issue alone

Lower hz

No way to properly adjust jt

[ashen spindle]

apparently you just do it digitally instead of with a manual slider?

[pale sigil]

Yes it's not the same

It's just emulated crap

It's on the wmr and it's not good enough

One of the main reasons I returned my wmr headset

[ashen spindle]

tbh I dont even see much of a difference unless I set mine to the max or min

[pale sigil]

Manual ipd moves the actual lenses

Digital just emulates

[ashen spindle]

and if lower hz for the better resolution makes it better or worse probably depends on the usecase

either way I'll probably get to try it because I'm sure my Uni gets one when it gets released so I'll try the tracking on some expert+ beatsaber maps lol

but either way, having a good setup for the trackers is a big issue for a lot of people who want a VR headset, for mass adoption this is the right choice either way imo

[pale sigil]

There's a small part of me that wants a rift s

But no ipd is a huge issue for me

So I literally can't use it

I'll probably just get a quest at this point

[ashen spindle]

I mean you cant really say that untill you tried it imo

what if the default setting is how you would set it manually

[pale sigil]

I can

It will be the same as the wmr

Literally

It's software side not mechanical

[ashen spindle]

okay, I'm talking about the case where you dont need to change it from the default

regardless of it beeing digital or manually adjustable

unless the screen/headset has the exact same screenplacement of the wmr you tried

otherwise it might be fitting, right?

[pale sigil]

It's designed by lenovo

It's basically wmr lenovo headset

Which I had

It's using the same design all around

Another issue was not being able to tighten or pull the lenses towards you more with a strap

[ashen spindle]

hm maybe it will be worse then we'll see, either way I feel like a lot of points on that joke newspaper image are just there because people want to complain

or maybe im just too optimistic

[pale sigil]

anyone figured out how to stop wootility updating

I tried

Won't work

[fallow bison]

Thats, odd?

[wheat plume]

Linux can have an auto download updates feature if you enable it

[fallow bison]

Are you sure you blocked the actual program instead of a shortcut

Idk how wootility starts. Might be an executable starting multiple services

[wheat plume]

ah right

I have never messed with appimage before

if you want to talk or ask me something @ me cause I Must try to do this dam project ;-;

[karmic grail]

this damn wifi holy