#๐Ÿ”Œโ”‚tech

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plush summit
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im at a loss

chrome estuary
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yeah sorry bromato

plush summit
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apparently the package that contains ifconfig is depreciated @chrome estuary

chrome estuary
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oh

plush summit
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ip addr works

chrome estuary
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oh yeah

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uh

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yeah i'm like... out of it right now and no help

plush summit
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XD

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why did you switch from arch?

chrome estuary
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AUR annoyed me. Everyone wanted to rely on it so a lot of shit was build from source or hope the AUR worked.

plush summit
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i tried running lspci -v to see if the module is loaded

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but it goes off the screen

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oh

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cool

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not a clue

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realteck something

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nope

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its intel

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yeah

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its there

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looks alright to me

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yes

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i am using vb

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it works now

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it stopped working when i installed grub and rebooted

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i reverted to a snapshot

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ilkl repeat the proccess and see if anything is moscinfugured after i get it booted

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hopefully

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ive tried this a bunch of times

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failed

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every single time installing grub confused me

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there we go

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installed grub

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and no connectivity

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after reboot

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whats he file?

latent mural
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turns off hdr, well that was interesting nice.. gradients i guess

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@zenith sonnet

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Still got some tweaks to do (like cutting the thread fixing the Reservoir) and

plush summit
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you dont need a bootloader?

latent mural
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All in all, I'm pretty happy with the outcome, since it's my first custom loop ever

plush summit
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vb is not uefi

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i think it still uses legacy

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....

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how

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its the vm

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made the change

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it didnt work

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it was able to connect prior to becoming a standalone system

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once i rebooted independent from the installation media i cannot connect

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idk what im doing

pale sigil
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Oh here we go

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somi rely on lastpass way to much

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Don't question one of the tabs, tis not what you think.

plush summit
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@proud nacelle why dont you use arch anymore

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i want to use it for its customizability

chrome estuary
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yeah instead of any AUR packages having the key inside and doing something like requesting you to accept the key like it should... It makes you do the hard work.

plush summit
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so what distro hten

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i dont exactly like mint

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and im not a fan of ubuntu either

chrome estuary
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in the foot

plush summit
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i tried gentoo

chrome estuary
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haha

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haha

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Void's nice but weird.

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You're lucky if chrome even compiles correctly.

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I'd seriously suggest Antergos if you're locked eyes with Arch.

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It's like gentoo but not or some shit. I never could get it to work.

plush summit
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ive tried it

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i want something fast

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something that i can customize

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something that will last a long time

chrome estuary
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honestly...

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Ubuntu.

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but you already expressed distain for it.

plush summit
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I really don't like the UI

chrome estuary
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you can change that

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Distros really do not change much from one to another except for package management in most cases unless you're doing something weird like Gentoo or Void.

karmic grail
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Some guy in a FB group that I'm in just bought these

latent mural
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workstation parts

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buying something for work is completely different than something for a hobby

zenith sonnet
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@latent mural Looks great

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Did you do any stress testing yet?

latent mural
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@zenith sonnet Just Prime95, peaked 74c clocked to 4,15GHz(Ryzen 2600) for 10 seconds. Was pretty stable at 68-69 a majority of the time.

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I need some more rads

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Just got one 240mm (albeit fat, 65mm), want one thin 360mm in the top

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how long did it run?

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Not very long, 15 min or so. Just wanted to play some

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with that amount of rads you have to let it run longer to find out your max temp

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OCC(T?) topped 55c after 15 as well.

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ok?

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GPU testing didn't seem to work

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rip me, my wallet limits me to peasant aio and air cooling

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With OCCT

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I spend about 150 bucks, but then I got everything cheap. Got an EKWB Supremacy EVO for free, 20 fittings for 25, pump and top for 30. I belive the fittings are Barrow and the pumo Laing(Spelling?) and top Aquacomputer

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if you get a d5 pump, and you shouldn't get anything else, they are always from the same company

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only with slight modifications like eks rgb pump etc

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It's a DDC pump

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Probably getting a combo for next build

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I think they also are from the same company

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the only cooler for my gpu is like 100โ‚ฌ

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Buy used

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you can't get it used

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there only is one from alphacool

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and they basically make them semi custom

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What GPU do you have?

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I'd have to buy another gpu

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zotac 1080 amp extreme

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Could just get a core only cooler

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there aren't any waterblock for it since the card also ahs a watercooled version

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Like EKWB Thermosphere

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and the card + waterblock might be a bit to tall for my case

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since the card itself is already pretty tall adn teh pcie power cables basically touch the glass

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Get EKWB Supremacy VGA then

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โ‚ฌ50, and then add some copper Finns for the vrm and VRAM

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I could

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but in total it would still be pretty expensive

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and since my card hates OC it wouldn't be of any use to me

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Honestly, you don't go into custom loops because (unless you're a mega skilled clocker) you want lower temps, you do it because it's fun, looks cool and adds another level to your computer nerding

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Unless you got the money to spend there is no real gain for you

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well, I could get lower temps and especially less noise

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but with my gpu it would ruin the looks if I can't find a fitting gpu block

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I could maybe exchange mine for a smalle model wiht a more common pcb

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like the msi armor etc

latent mural
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wtf

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apparently blizzard made dx12 work on win7

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guess for what game

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Yea, read that

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why wow?

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every card that somewhat benefits from dx12 can run the game just fine

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or do gtx 600 cards suddenly struggle with it?

fickle ore
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dx12 improves cpu performance not gpu

latent mural
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what cpu realistically struggles wow?

fickle ore
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mmorpgs require alot of cpu

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probably most

latent mural
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apparently an i5-3330 or an fx-6300 is the reccomended spec

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minimum is a core 2 duo or a phenom 2

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and with most do you mean most of 15 years ago?

fickle ore
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every new game supporting dx12 is good in my book

latent mural
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I won't complain abut it

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their chjoice was just very weird imo

fickle ore
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probably even newest cpu struggle within certain scenarios

latent mural
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in wow propably not

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if you want it to run at 500 fps maybe

fickle ore
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it's hard to say which is the bottleneck in place with high amounts of ppl + actions + max graphics settings

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wheres the article ?

latent mural
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german article

fickle ore
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probably most ppl running win7 play on shitty laptop with dual cores and dx12 helps there, and partly PR trick

latent mural
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dx 12 needs a geforce 600 gpu and up to work

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so those laptop should at least run mobile versions of the first couple core generations

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which already overshoot the minimum requirements by quite a bit

fair gull
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so

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i didnt need to upgrade to win10 after all

latent mural
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only for wow

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appartently it neds a lot more work for each game to work

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and microsoft cooperated i nthe project to make it work

fair gull
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i only play wow

latent mural
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why would you need to upgrade to win 10 then?

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it's not like wow demands dx12 and nothing less

fair gull
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for dx12

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more fps

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in raids

latent mural
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how much does that benefit wow?

fair gull
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i got 50fps more now altho this could also be due to having a 2080ti now

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btw /s

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i play everything but wow

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altho i heard dx12 does improve fps for real in effect heavy scenarios like raids and battlegrounds

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i actually upgraded cause i didnt wanna reinstall and rainbow six siege always claimed my d3d9.dll was a virus

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and theyre support basically said "reinstall windows thats the only fix"

gentle turret
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@latent mural basically every CPU on the market struggles with WoW if you want to run it above low

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it's an incredibly CPU bound game

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since they added DX12 support they've worked on multithreading more things and moving things off the main thread which has helped quite a lot, but it's still CPU bound

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you know it's good when you could go to Suramar and drop to 40fps, then change to 800x600 and still be at 40fps

latent mural
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I can't seem to find anyone else who has/noticed the trailing with bfv dlss

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And the small grains make me a little scared that my GPU is going to die soon

zenith sonnet
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wait half a year
wait for AMD to release something that does the same thing, just better

latent mural
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AMD doesn't support DX12 on win7

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and their current GPU lineup rarely offers a clearly better product if you want to buy anything with the power of the RTX 2060 or above

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the other problem

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I'd really buy AMD if they'd offer a competitive product and I'd be in the market for a new GPU

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but neither is the case

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Somebody was giving credit for an unannounced product

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to a company that barely managed to keep up

zenith sonnet
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The VII supports DirectML, which can do something comparable to DLSS

latent mural
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tbh dlss is a stupid feature imo, since it barely makes any difference

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you can jsut use normal AA methods and they work about as good

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and becasue of it's faster VRAM Vega should perform better in that task

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in total the Vega cards don't offer anything ofer Nvdidia card

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ik

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but that isn't genetive

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but possesive

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wait, nevermind

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you are right

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it's both

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apparently english doesn't really have a genetive

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btw, can every word be used as a noun in finnish?

zenith sonnet
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The 2080 doesn't really offer anything over the VII either

latent mural
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@zenith sonnet except usually better performance

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and much less power draw

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better and less noisier coolers

zenith sonnet
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They're about equal, and draw equal power for the same performance
Only thing that's truly better on the 2080 is the stock cooler noise levels

latent mural
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forget about the stock cooler

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there are very good non stock coolers

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not on radeon VII though

zenith sonnet
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Give it about as much time on market as the 2080 had, and it will have those, too

latent mural
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and the stock 2080 will generally perform better

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the 2080 launched with custom designs

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radeon vii will likely not get any though

ashen spindle
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equal opwer draw? wat

latent mural
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not really too

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doesn't the radeon vii draw almost 100w more?

zenith sonnet
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We'll see about that
The stock PCB is way overkill anyway, any custom design will likely be a downgrade

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Nope, it does not

latent mural
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cooler design is more important

ashen spindle
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rated at 75w higher iirc

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vii is at around 300W, a 2080ti is at like 250

zenith sonnet
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Posted the numbers a while ago, I think it something around 244W peak and 190W average for Time Sky

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At 1780 average MHz core and 1200 Mhz memory

latent mural
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how come some news sites get over 300w power draw?

ashen spindle
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in the metro last light benchmark the vii seems to peak at 320W even

zenith sonnet
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At what vcore?

latent mural
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base?

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we talk about base, not undervolted

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that heavily depends on the chip and is vastly different for every card

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but if you have multiple cards of each you can test it for us if you want

zenith sonnet
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I only got 2 VII's to test
They to 1801 Mhz at 960 and 930 mV respectively

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Launch reviews had a press driver with broken Wattman, real world differs a bit from the launch reviews

latent mural
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the insane OC GN did is beaten by a 2080

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without OC

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their card pulls somethign between 500 and 600 watts

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that is with newer drivers and wattman

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they have to beat the card really hard to make it go faster or sometimes comparable

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if you just add the price of the cooler you could save just a little to get a 2080 ti

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which then beats it out of the box everywhere except certain rare workloads, which are completely irrelevant to almost any user

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and those users get radeon instinct cards

pale sigil
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Fractal Design Define S on offer atm

latent mural
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in general?

pale sigil
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In the U.K.

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Kinda tempted

latent mural
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I'm guessing they are getting rid of old stock

pale sigil
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ยฃ60

latent mural
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wait, nvm I thought it was out of production now, but it isn't

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really not a bad price

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personally don't like acrylic panels, but definetley not bad

pale sigil
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Not a huge fan of the side panel design

latent mural
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oh

pale sigil
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I like the cases that completely hide cables and the psu

latent mural
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I see the non window version

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well if you pay 50% more you get the meshify c which does that

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psu shrouds are kind of new

pale sigil
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They've been a thing for years

latent mural
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the only bigger brand that did them a lot before 2018 was NZXT

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or was it 2017?

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don't remember

fickle ore
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cant wait for AMD to offer GPU that's somewhat competitive with NVIDIA. Nvidia just sucks, their drivers suck and fuck them

pale sigil
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One thing I love is hdd and ssd is hidden behind

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I adore that

latent mural
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don't most do that nowadays?

pale sigil
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No

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A lot still have hdd trays

latent mural
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SSDs are pretty much always in the back

fair gull
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@gentle turret idk man i get my 200fps + easily on maxed settings

latent mural
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and if you want a lot of HDD trays you either have them under the shroud or you don't

fickle ore
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any good looking modern aluminium cases on the market atm, Callum?

pale sigil
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I only have 1 HDD and 2 SSDs now

fickle ore
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I want to hide HDD/SSD aswell

latent mural
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@fickle ore I don't think there are many doing aluminum

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and those are pricey

pale sigil
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I used to have 1 SSD and 2 HDDs lol

latent mural
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the only one I can think of is Lian Li

pale sigil
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I just want a small case

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With no compromise

latent mural
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compromise number 1

pale sigil
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I just saw this was on offer is all

latent mural
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it is small

pale sigil
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And looked it up

fickle ore
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Lian Li, silverstone and Jonsbo have aluminium cases atleast, wonder if more do em

latent mural
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silverstone still has some?

fair gull
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id like a case out of supercodnuctor wire

fickle ore
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Silverstone has yeah. I just need a case that's not an eyesore for the lady

fair gull
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and then etch away a bit of copper and it would look dope af

fickle ore
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my current one is big and looks retarded ๐Ÿ˜„

fair gull
pale sigil
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Ugh side panels are to big

fair gull
latent mural
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just get one of those big monoliths from lianLi

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looks 100% clean

pale sigil
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Ooofr define s way bigger than I thought

latent mural
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well it isn't a small case

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idk what you thought

fair gull
fickle ore
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wat ๐Ÿ˜›

fair gull
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and if she doesnt like it ironman will blast her

fickle ore
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fooking windows on the cases these days

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nobody makes cases without windows?

latent mural
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sure

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all fractal cases are available without window

fair gull
gentle turret
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@fair gull everything on max standing in one of the latest expansion hubs?

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Dazar'alor for example

fair gull
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yes

gentle turret
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I'm not sure I actually believe that

fair gull
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in raids it dips to like 80 or 60

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when everythings going off

gentle turret
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so if you stand on Dazar'alor looking outwards with everything on max you get 200fps?

fair gull
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180-200

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ya

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easily

gentle turret
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meanwhile the benchmarks done after the patch hit with an insanely overpowered system didn't manage that

fair gull
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after which patch

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thats the question

gentle turret
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the patch that added the DX12 multithreaded optimisations

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so 8.1

fair gull
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idk man i just go onto my normal favorite german rp realm

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altho i can say rn that the population of these realms is literally low af cause german realms

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or well eu datacenter

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cause blizzard somehow has to divide by regions for some reason

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i can tell u rn if u expected this to be like a 400 player hub with all their armor effects and shit

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uh no

gentle turret
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even at night with only a few people around it makes no difference

fair gull
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"a few"

gentle turret
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yes, like 5 or so

fair gull
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welp i can send u screens later on with an fps counter

gentle turret
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I'm talking 4am levels of night when it's pretty quiet

fair gull
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or afterburner or smth

gentle turret
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these are wowheads figures with an OC'd 7980XE and a 1080 Ti in I believe the kul tiran hub

fair gull
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what are the specs

gentle turret
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which are in line with what I'd expect

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and in line with the gains I saw in dazar'alor personally

fair gull
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like i said imma send u screens later on

gentle turret
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if you're getting 200fps in the hubs then some setting isn't as high as it goes

fair gull
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can also send u a video if u want

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showing that its maxed

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i dont run anything special either

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just an OC'd 9700k and a 2080ti

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but ya im very positive to remember 200fps

fair gull
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@gentle turret ok i seem to have misremembered. i just tested it with lowest and highest setting while resolution scale is set to 4k and both give me 65-70fps

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but settings dont really seem to affect it at all

gentle turret
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because it's a CPU bottleneck

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as I said earlier

fair gull
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somehow remembered it with 200fps

gentle turret
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the only way to change it is to turn down specific settings that are CPU heavy

fair gull
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could also be wotlk i dont know

gentle turret
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๐Ÿ‘Œ

fair gull
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jk thats the background fps limit

plush summit
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Hey, has anybody had issues with cellular hand shaking?

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Specifically with andriod p

fair gull
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cellular handshaking?

plush summit
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Mine got stuck in a loop

fair gull
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i havent had problems so far

fallow bison
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Me neither

pale sigil
karmic grail
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lmao my friend a couple months ago was planning to buy KB

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he chose between Logitech G pro and Varmilo sakura

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Went with Logitech cause ARRRGEEEBEEE

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now his leds are dying and he regrets not getting Varmilo sakura

latent mural
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rip me

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ordered hardware

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and all good thermal grease is sold out

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except for the 20g version of MX-4

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I don't want 20g

solar hinge
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20gr is for when you change it every 3 months and then for 2 years or so :p

latent mural
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somewhat like that

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more like 5 years then

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I originally had 4g in my order, but they sold out on that

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and when I asked if they could exchange it for the 2g or 8g version those sold out as well

fallow bison
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boB that sounds like he could just send it as rma, right?

zenith sonnet
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Kryonaut sold out?

zenith sonnet
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Every reviewer seems to have heaps of it
Guess that explains it...

latent mural
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appaerntly they just got mx-4 back in stock

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they said it won't be there until next week

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NT-H1 is also back

zenith sonnet
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They have Hydronaut in stock

latent mural
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yep

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they have now

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rip me

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I'd have taken MX-4 but it was out of stock yesterday

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the only option I had were MX-2 and Silver 5

karmic grail
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@fallow bison he's going through RMA now

pale sigil
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Can we rma facebook

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F

pale sigil
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tempted

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Monitor market sucks asds

warped dove
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Acer ED242QR:
Curve 16:9 design
Great views
Better your eyes

Very quality
Wow

zenith sonnet
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The new Aorus looks great

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144Hz WQHD Freesync

latent mural
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aorus what?

zenith sonnet
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Monitor

latent mural
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kk

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does it have pricing yet?

zenith sonnet
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For curved, there's this Samsung VA one

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about 600โ‚ฌ

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The Samsung is 500โ‚ฌ

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Had QA issues in the past, not sure if still true

latent mural
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oof, 600 is quite steep

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especially for a brand which never made monitors before

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and the Samsung VA is one of their QLED monitors, right?

zenith sonnet
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It's a VA panel

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C27H70, i think

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Don't remember the model number of the Aorus, though

sick creek
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Open thermal paste isnt good past 18 months or so

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It gets dry no matter what you do

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You can still use it but it wont work as well. I threw out all my old thermal paste recently, incl a 20g tube of arctic silver ceramique lol

latent mural
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still thinking if I should order some from Amazon

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but sicne Ryzen doesn't OC very well I don't think that it'll make much diference

fair gull
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@sick creek oh so i shouldnt put powder on the cpu?

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shit i did that the past 4 years with customer pcs

fallow bison
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iirc it really depends on what cpu it is, Yamatoklok

latent mural
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2700X

fallow bison
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I think the x series didnt oc as well

latent mural
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well, the normal ones usually wen't to the same clocks

fallow bison
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I know for a fact that the 2600 does oc well

latent mural
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they were just a little lower on base

fallow bison
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So you want to oc, or lower your temps?

latent mural
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they were about the same price though

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as fas as I know I basically can't OC
and my cooelr should cool it more than enough, even wit hbad paste

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I'll look what my temps are and then decide if I want to change

fallow bison
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Well then if its currently at acceptable temps it really isnt needed

latent mural
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it currently is in a box from dhl

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should be pretty cold

fallow bison
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O lol

latent mural
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and hopefully not wet

fallow bison
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Well keep in mind ryzen can run pretty hot when oc'ed

latent mural
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yea

fallow bison
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Atleast, mine certainly does

latent mural
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how much did you oc yours

fallow bison
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4.1 ghz

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coming from 3.4 stock base

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So thats quite the overclock for a budget cpu

latent mural
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hek

fallow bison
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It runs about 15 degrees hotter though

latent mural
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I currently still ahve my 6600k on 4.5

fallow bison
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But i got a 240 rad AIO

latent mural
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from 3.9

fallow bison
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Yeah that bout the same

latent mural
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without any voltage changes

fallow bison
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Damn thats nice

latent mural
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they all do that

fallow bison
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How hot does it run idle?

latent mural
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not very

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have a 360mm aio though

fallow bison
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Mine runs 35 or so

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minimum

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usually 38

latent mural
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might be a bit warmer, have the fans pretty slow though

fallow bison
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Which is quite hot for idle, but under load it hits a max of 63

latent mural
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doesn't get over 65ยฐ on laod though

fallow bison
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And i also like keeping my fancurve quiet

latent mural
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problem is that it only is 4C/4T

fallow bison
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but my rx580 destoys my quiet pc lmfao

latent mural
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rip

fallow bison
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Yeah 4T is a bummer

latent mural
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replaced the fans on my 1080 for 2 noctua fans for that reason

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doesn't OC well, but it stays quiet

fallow bison
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Yeah ive looked into it

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but rx580 is just a super hot card

fair gull
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arent all amd cards super hot

fallow bison
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But ive really been able to oc mine well

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Lower ends arent

latent mural
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my x580 wasn't that hot

fallow bison
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i got +145 on base clock

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9000 mhz mem

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So that a substantial difference

latent mural
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had the nitro limited edition

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sold it for 50% margin after 3 months of use dogelul

fallow bison
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Those run quite cool indeed

latent mural
#

at the price of a used 1080

fallow bison
#

Damn nice

fair gull
#

idk if i really want to oc my cpu further and my gpu

fallow bison
#

Depends on if you need it

#

id say no if not

latent mural
#

my gpu really doesn't like to OC

fair gull
#

8C/8T

#

id like a bit more power

fallow bison
#

Do you regulalry hit 100% load?

latent mural
#

can't increase the core clock by even 100 MHz

fair gull
#

i never hit 100%

fallow bison
#

Then its simple

fair gull
#

except when i need the power

fallow bison
#

dont do it

fair gull
#

with like JtR

latent mural
#

8C/8T sounds like a 9700k?

fair gull
#

it is

fallow bison
#

Are you runnign ryzen?

latent mural
#

what clock?

fallow bison
#

o

#

ofc not

fair gull
#

currently its 4.8

latent mural
#

well, if the cooler allows it it can definetley do 5.0

fallow bison
#

I'd say 4.9 to stay stable

fair gull
#

its an h100i

latent mural
#

nah, it's just a 9900k without HT

fallow bison
#

knowing you dont necessarily need it

latent mural
#

it should be able to do 5.0 at stock voltage

fair gull
#

it can

latent mural
#

get's hot though

fair gull
#

i mean it boosts to 4.9 without any oc

latent mural
#

why did you underclock?

fallow bison
#

I'd lock it at that without voltage change then

fair gull
#

i didnt

#

my base clock is 4.8

latent mural
#

ahh

pale sigil
#

I run at 4.6

latent mural
#

so what is the problem then?

pale sigil
#

For some reason any higher my temps go insane

fair gull
#

id like to puush for 5

pale sigil
#

The last few months

fallow bison
#

9600k's do that iirc

pale sigil
#

I used to be at 5ghz all the time

latent mural
#

rip

pale sigil
#

5ghz has been easy to have since 7700k

latent mural
#

maybe try undervolting

fallow bison
#

How old is it callum?

pale sigil
#

Just over a year by like a month

fallow bison
#

Huh odd

#

i know that after 2 years it could happen

#

happened to my friend too

#

Fried his cpu after having it on 5.0 for over a year

pale sigil
#

I was going to just wait till I get a new case and re do all my cooling and see if its just a me issue

fallow bison
#

Got warmer without him knowing

pale sigil
#

I didn't have it on 5ghz for long

fallow bison
#

Very odd

pale sigil
#

Maybe 2 months tops? I then ran it at like 4.8ghz for a while then just 4.6

latent mural
#

rip

sick creek
#

Higher voltage will cause strain on the silicon

latent mural
#

maybe your cooler is dying?

sick creek
#

Eventually you will need more and more voltage

#

And then it just wont work at all

fallow bison
#

Voltage wasn't touched though

#

Pretty sure

sick creek
#

Then the oc wasnt the issue

#

Only increase in voltage causes that

ashen spindle
#

stock voltage and bad stock LLC sometimes can be enough to cause slow degradation

latent mural
#

it could legit be the cooler

sick creek
#

Without temp sensors on the hs you wont know

#

and who here has an external probe

#

Lol

latent mural
#

well, he should get some kind of rpm signal back

sick creek
#

I mean if the fan is dead you can see it

latent mural
#

and should be able to name what cooler he has

sick creek
#

True

fair gull
#

so anyone got a clue bout oc'ing a 2080ti

sick creek
#

Dont?

fair gull
#

whyn't

ashen spindle
#

you'll need to do hardware mods and/or use custom vbios to get much done, they are severly limited in max powerdraw

fair gull
#

oh?

#

oh right the 130% PL bios and that

ashen spindle
#

well, depending on how far you want to push it, but you wont get much more than what their oc tool will give oyu after 15 minute testing

#

ye

latent mural
#

tbh

#

you usually can get better results with undervolting

ashen spindle
#

on amd ye, on nvidia not as much afaik

latent mural
#

less power draw and temeprature let gpu boost 3 psuh the card higher

#

and you may be able to do a slight overclock because of the lowered powerdraw

#

at least that is how it worked for pascal

fair gull
#

this isnt pascal

#

this is tony

latent mural
#

imagine Nvidia rleasing the Titan Tony

fair gull
#

but im tony

reef patrol
#

5ghz isn't "easy", but it's doable on most CPUs given right conditions, and having good cooling, and a good motherboard

fair gull
#

tmw calder isnt ur friend so u cant ask for parts being send to u

pale sigil
#

I hope one day we get batteries that don't die so quickly -_-

#

My phone is being downed by its battery

#

Sucks

#

100% 9am, bow it's 2pm and 10%

pale sigil
#

And all I've done is use discord and watched 3 videos

fair gull
#

18000mAh battery

pale sigil
#

Battery dying in general

#

Not how long it lasts

#

The life span

#

If you get me

latent mural
#

what phone do you have?

zenith sonnet
#

My OP3 still gets 6+h SOT after 3 or so years

fair gull
#

my phone is 2 years now still gets 13h +

sinful fractal
#

@zenith sonnet without touching it while at work, when i'm home at 19h~ i'm like 30%

zenith sonnet
#

Well, that was actual usage

#

I think I used it for navigation, 4G and GPS enabled the whole time

#

40-50% brightness

sinful fractal
#

battery should last at least 24h with intensive usage

#

that's so annoying to bring your charger everywhere you go to make sure your phone stays on for the day

zenith sonnet
#

I dunno

#

I don't feel like using the phone more than an hour a day tops

sinful fractal
#

yeah same, but it's all about the idea of having a 500 euros phone that only last half a day when you Don't use it that much

#

it feels a bit like a robbery

reef patrol
#

Most smartphones last from morning to evening on a fresh battery. No more blobsad

crimson wigeon
#

My OP3T needs to be charged every day it seems, battery life has been garbage ever since the Nougat update

#

I miss when the SOT would easily reach 5+ hours no problem now 2 hours is a reach

#

At least it charges really really fast

sudden glacier
#

had my screen on for 3.3 hours, youtube for 2.5 hours, discord 40 minutes, 10% battery left

zenith sonnet
#

@crimson wigeon Considering it's essentially the same device as mine, I suspect you might have a powerbug installed

crimson wigeon
#

Uhhuh

#

I don't know about that

#

It literally went to shit the moment I upgraded and hasn't really recovered since

#

And since then I've done several full wipes and it's still crap

zenith sonnet
#

Weird
Nougat runs fine on mine, with no noticeable change to battery life
Does it get warm?

crimson wigeon
#

Pie did improve things a little but again not by much

#

And yes it does get slightly warm

#

And yes guess what

#

At the top of battery consumption is the GOSH DARN GOOGLE PLAY SERVICES

zenith sonnet
#

I once had an app installed that was a literal power bug for stress testing, 100% screen, CPU, GPU, full power antennae, GPS, etc
And it takes 1.5h to fully drain the battery
If it drains that fast, it should get very warm

#

Maybe a faulty battery?

crimson wigeon
#

But why would an Android upgrade make it faulty?

zenith sonnet
#

It might just have happened around the same time

#

Actually, the battery is one of the few things, that are different to the OP3

crimson wigeon
#

I did that the day I started using this phone.. (well CM but still) and maybe I'll try MicroG... maybe..

reef patrol
#

๐Ÿ˜„

fair gull
#

i dont get the leaving part imo... im not an interesting individual and i couldnt care less what google does with the info i agreed they are allowed to collect

#

no i have stuff to hide but since i clicked agree and i know what im in for

#

i cant really complain

#

plus i think google is broken for me anyway

#

sicne 2015 theres no new entry of my browsing history on their website

#

and im logged in on my phone and browser

#

im very sure people like you wont ever find a service in this day and age that truly doesnt collect data about u

#

unleyy you open your own services

#

including your own isp

#

im fine with what google, discord etc collect about me and they openly state what they collect plus i can always request what data they stored. sure i will not use services whcih lie in my face to me

#

email service known to be pretty anonymous gets used more by hackers etc
gets more requests from law enforcement due to it
now gets shit for complying with requests as stated in their ToS

#

and they will still sell ur data

#

so basically the bad guy that kills people less often is acceptable but the one that does it slightly more frequently should be killed

#

like the still sell it... it shouldnt matter how often

#

i somehow highly doubt that

#

imma say they will all turn around at some point and sell data

#

and thats the logic i dont get

#

they already sold your data

#

it wont undo that

#

plus then u have to switch everything over all the time

#

which is even more annoying

#

no just dont do the shit u want to hide on the net

#

do the shit on the net u dont care about people finding out

#

dont post ur nsfw pics or shit like that

#

i dont even get the question tbh

#

imo as long as you use a service provided by someone who is not you, you will have your data sold at some point

#

uh yes if you also run your own isp

#

and your own server hwardware

#

u basically need to own everything in the chain to make absolutely sure no one sells ur data

#

any email provider can turn against you

#

since they all have to hand you the mails via web or pop3/imap

#

there is no best way rn

#

its a bad to switch providers every time your current one fucks up

#

as it is to stay

#

i dont communicate anything via email anyway

#

the important stuff i want to send i do send to the people that need it encrypted with aes256

#

but thats rather few times

#

cause usually i meet those people pmuch daily and can exchange with them in person

#

well i dont share stuff i wouldnt share publicly with people i havent met irl

#

if i do meet them they usually also get a password to decrypt/encrypt messages

#

thats also why i dont care bout google etc... i only do things here that i literally dont care about anyone knowing

fair gull
#

but to each their own

zenith sonnet
#

What happened to safe-mail, actually?

#

My router got an update
FRITZ!OS: 07.01

ashen spindle
karmic grail
#

they did it to "not hype things up" for their next mouse

ashen spindle
#

ya kinda stupid for multiple reasons but w/e

latent mural
#

it's 10 degrees in this room

#

time to see how far the gpu boost will go

#

oh right it was just power limited all this time

fallow bison
#

Lol

pale sigil
reef patrol
#

๐Ÿ˜„

#

Tough luck Valve.

plush summit
#

i think i have a linux problem

chrome estuary
#

jfc

pale sigil
#

Linux os files take up nothing

#

One thing I love about Linux

plush summit
#

i have lots of linux iso

#

and ive instaled each of them

pale sigil
#

Bruh

fair gull
pale sigil
#

Lots of Linuxs shouldn't add up to 468gb

#

L

plush summit
#

@fair gull give me those

fair gull
#

why

pale sigil
#

Pretty much similar, on my NAS I have loads of ISO files

fair gull
#

i mean we can trade

plush summit
#

i loved vista

fair gull
#

all ur linux isos for my win isos

reef patrol
#

Windows 10 ISOs are from 2016

plush summit
#

XD

pale sigil
#

@fair gull dreamspark?

fair gull
#

wha?

chrome estuary
pale sigil
#

Just assumed with your key files

fair gull
#

no

#

i own a ton of old cds and floppy's

#

all working fine

plush summit
#

wow

reef patrol
#

I have a similar collection of ISOs on my workshop USB drives. Great for installing Windows on customer PCs.

pale sigil
#

Oh lol, all of my keys are from dreamspark I've pretty much given away most

fair gull
#

all my keys are available on a printed label on the cd case

#

i value my windows cds/dvds

#

except the 8.1 one

#

i hate that one

reef patrol
#

pls no. No disc based installers ๐Ÿ˜„

pale sigil
#

Simple excel file here for all my keys. I have like 200 keys for different OSes and software

#

My college reset my dreamspark 3 times :p

#

And uni two times

chrome estuary
#

I uh...

chrome estuary
#

yeah sure dreamspark

fair gull
#

also collecting VS

chrome estuary
#

that's totally how i get mine.

pale sigil
#

So I have a bunch of windows 10, 7, vista, xp and 98 keys

reef patrol
#

I have a stack of retail keys, unscratched. I kind of went the Linus way, except I just crack my machines to get rid of the watermark.

Life is too short to call the MS robot activation line

plush summit
#

lol

pale sigil
#

You don't need a password breaker for office tho

fair gull
#

hdclone soon will add 9 since we bought it in my company

chrome estuary
fair gull
reef patrol
#

I use Hirens... which is just a bunch of (free) software bunbled together in portable self extracting packages.

pale sigil
#

Hirens is life

fair gull
#

oh i have a bunch of hirens sticks aswell

reef patrol
#

Password retrieval, harddrive scans et cetera.

fair gull
#

like old ones and newer ones

#

also have a gandalf win10 boot stick

#

for PE win10 with tools

pale sigil
#

Hirens is useless for Windows 10 tho

reef patrol
#

Naw

fair gull
#

not really

reef patrol
#

Turn off the AV and it runs great.

chrome estuary
#

I have one USB for bootable usbs and it's a fucking USB 2.

pale sigil
#

The password aspect of it

reef patrol
#

The password tools I have in my Hirens run fine in Windows 10.

fair gull
#

oh well ya but for that u just boot wlinux on hirens, copy cmd.exe to utilman.exe

#

and boom

reef patrol
#

But only if the AV is dead.

fair gull
#

free passwords

reef patrol
#

I swear - These USB sticks has saved me from so many agonizing experiences with elderly PC owners, who don't know their passwords. Any of them.

fair gull
#

same

chrome estuary
#

dad can't remember passwords to save his fucking life

#

I can't tell you how many times I've had to reset his email and facebook passwords...

reef patrol
fair gull
#

using facebook in 2019

chrome estuary
#

Even when he writes it down he fucking loses it.

fair gull
#

u prob wanted to say youp..... youtube

chrome estuary
#

nah he uses facebook to keep up with family and shit.

#

For one, we don't have a signal where I live so texting is non-existent and we rely on our landline.

pale sigil
#

@chrome estuary

chrome estuary
#

I'm assuming your 'media' folder?

#

Or drive in this case.

fair gull
#

1tb network drive for media

chrome estuary
#

2

reef patrol
#

Right - Enough being lazy. I gotta see if I can get my old NAS to run and pull data out of it, so I can rebuilt it with a more modern chipset.

I think it's running some kind of 2nd gen low power intel (self built), going to replace it with a 6th gen i3 6100 on a ... bitcoin mining motherboard.

chrome estuary
#

he's using a 1tb already.

fair gull
#

oh right

#

i have 300gb music alone

pale sigil
#

2tb for media

chrome estuary
#

God damn.

reef patrol
#

I used to - But I gave up on local music after getting too used to Spotify

#

Now I only keep movies and TV series in storage.

fair gull
#

most of it is dreamdance

chrome estuary
reef patrol
pale sigil
#

Alright boys

fair gull
#

well all my music is ripped from CDs using EAC

#

all nicely in flac

chrome estuary
#

yeah mine's uh... not so legit

fair gull
#

is it available on bandcamp?

#

if so its free anyway

pale sigil
#

We had a nas called Brenda at work

fair gull
chrome estuary
#

I think one song I own is?

pale sigil
#

She had 12tb of music

reef patrol
#

I want to do the ultimate stream machine kind of setup longterm. A garage server PC style thing that handles all NAS, torrent and Transcoding stuff for the entire household as automatic as possible, since wifey is tech inept ๐Ÿ˜„

pale sigil
#

One of the clients was obsessed with archiving music

#

And I mean obsssesd

fair gull
#

i have a client aswell who got like 8TB of music

pale sigil
#

He asked to convert all his 1tbx12 drives to 2x6gb

fair gull
#

and he has 2 backup nas to backup his nas which is running raid 15

pale sigil
#

So a copy was made

#

And he called it Brenda

reef patrol
#

๐Ÿ˜„

fair gull
#

the best one i had was this dude with 2gb of CP tho who we busted

#

i mean imagine this

#

ur pc isnt working

#

so u bring it to a place that fixes it

#

and u dont even try to hide

reef patrol
#

Yikes

fair gull
#

luckily the only time in all my years i had to call the cops

chrome estuary
#

Surprisingly I've heard similar stories with ranges from gigabytes to terabytes.

reef patrol
#

Yeah - We've had two cases of that for as long as I've worked here. We just report it to the police and play dumb with the customer, when they come to pick it up. We just tell them to go pick it up at the police station.

fair gull
#

with us its that the police comes to us

#

hides and the customer just gets it back

#

and well

#

gets escorted to a new car

reef patrol
#

Heh. Also works IF the customer actually bothers t show up as agreed on time.

fair gull
#

i mean

#

this is germany

reef patrol
#

touche

fair gull
#

altho tbh like i said only called police once myself

#

my employer had it 2 times before i started working there

#

well anyway imma go play some DMC5 and see how good/bad it is

latent mural
#

Rip me

#

My crosshair vii hero just arrived

#

And the top m.2 slot is dead

fair gull
#

rip

#

no raid m.2

reef patrol
#

Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100T CPU @ 2.50GHz
My old NAS is such a powerhouse

latent mural
#

I really don't want to rma though

fair gull
#

welp u dont have to use the other m.2

#

unless u actually need both

latent mural
#

yee

#

it's still bad, considering this is a 280โ‚ฌ mobo

fair gull
#

true

#

well mine works fine luckily

pale sigil
#

I want to make my own nas

#

But like

#

Can never find decent priced old hardware

#

Everyone thinks their shit is worth something

chrome estuary
#

yeap

fair gull
#

id recommend an actual server board btw

reef patrol
#

Reuse your own stuff ๐Ÿ˜„

#

Eh. Don't need server specific stuff really. Only if you're buying a preowned xeon.

chrome estuary
#

Excuse me. My NAS requires two of the latest Xeon GOLD processors running along side at the least 4TB of ram.

fair gull
#

no like i mean for the premium stuff like build in raid controllers and รญBMC

#

its not bout the processor really

#

just put in an i3 or some shit

#

its just that u usually can get 4 lan ports, ibmc and the mentioned raid controller out of the box

#

and usually like 10 sata ports

pale sigil
#

I don't have own stuff

#

I gave most of it away

reef patrol
#

Next time ๐Ÿ˜„

#

You don't need a server board for RAID ๐Ÿ˜„

#

Also not sure why you'd need more than a single gigabit connection. We have switches

fair gull
#

switches dont make the connection faster tho

#

multiple eth = more speed

#

plus software raid is shit and usually a good server board has smth more like a seperate raid card

#

i just like hardware raid and for speed id actually prefer an SFP+ DAC connection but thats not smth ud find on a mainboard idrectly

latent mural
#

tbh

#

hardware vs software raid makes very little difference nowadays

chrome estuary
#

I mean a raid card would be nice for the extra ports for sata or sas or etc

#

Or ide if you're so inclined

fair gull
#

idk i just save the config of the sata card and replace the battery every 6month when the system is powered

#

a battery isnt even a euro so its not expensive

#

idk i like the extra sata ports

#

the biggest storage server i build so far had 50 disks

#

i see it the same as emulators vs real hardware

#

emulators might get close

#

but they cant beat the real deal

#

altho a few emulators can pmuch emulate perfectly

#

i need them ports anyway

#

so might also use the raid card for what its build

#

ya they usually have onboard hardware raid tho

#

at least the ones i know

latent mural
#

usually yes

chrome estuary
#

My head hurts a lot so I forgot there are pcie cards with Sata ports

pale sigil
#

I have a spare raid card lol

warped dove
#

brothers are not technology

#

OK well they do make reliable printers

#

My parents have bought like 4 colour printers in the last 3 years. I keep telling 'em to get Brother, but no there's always a sale

#

Example of what, sale or no sale?

#

Factorio just isn't released yet xD

ashen spindle
#

ye early acess games usually dont participate in sales

#

yea but in general you see that less, usually only if the games sales need to be higher for the game to be able to be continued etc.

#

Well, I needed one last month bc I needed to print my bachelor papers LUL

#

not on my own ofc

#

sent it to a copy shop

#

before that when I wanted to print ESTA forms etc. when I went to the us incase I needed it, otherwise not really for anything in the last years

fair gull
#

i print around 100pages from mon-fri each day

#

customers

#

and testing printers we send out to customers

ashen spindle
#

do you want to put a phone in a box if you want to pin something to the wall that you'd need to print otherwise?

warped dove
#

"I print hundreds of sheet - to test printers" I feel that this is cheating xD

fair gull
#

na testing is like 2-4 pages

#

but customers come in and want shit copied or printed from usb

#

or their phone

#

nope we repair pcs, laptops, phones, printers, monitors

#

sell all of that aswell

#

and we sell office supplies

#

welp we are the only shop in like 40km radius that offers any of that

#

so

#

ya

#

we have contracts with all schools, hospitals, most doctors etc in the radius

ashen spindle
#

also works better with the german stereotype than the canadian rooVV

fair gull
#

but ya i love my job

#

this is my job

#

leaning back and putting the feet up

warped dove
#

You guys ever buy 2+ of the same item in different colours / size / whatever and send the ones that you don't want back?

fair gull
#

sleeping for 8hrs

#

and waking up

#

not really

#

id really love to do hardware or software engineering

#

but id also like to stay in my region or a region similar to it cause we got tons of forest around here

#

no major cities

#

nice and quiet

warped dove
#

Heh. I could probably take a better job within software engineering, some place nicer. But moving to somewhere nice would likely mean to drive to and from work for hours every week, which I don't want. So I stay in the middle of a dry, dusty city with reasonable but kinda limited career choice and everything within walking distance.

fair gull
#

well i have to drive an hour now aswell

iron wave
#

I am looking for a C SHA-1 library that I can set the inital values and read them back. I only need it to process 64 byte blocks.

pale sigil
iron wave
#

That is not how you spell color. :V

pale sigil
#

@iron wave different countries spell it differently

iron wave
#

The ones with the u are wrong though. :-P

pale sigil
#

No u

karmic grail
fair gull
#

@iron wave prob will need to modify an existing one

latent mural
#

still confused about the tv running 4k@60hz hdr full no chroma sub sampling over hdmi

#

there are small artefacts yes, but they are also there on 30hz

#

and they are not limited colour

#

it's like im over clocking the hdmi port or something

fair gull
#

just use displayport

latent mural
#

go ahead and tell me not to use a tv in a trolling manner

#

again

fair gull
#

no like

#

i literally prefer DP over HDMI

latent mural
#

tvs dont have dp

fair gull
#

some do

latent mural
#

bigbrain: ill take your word for it

fair gull
#

its just that i really like the better backwards comp of DP

#

and i had fewer shit going on with it

#

the DXW804/904 came with DP at some point

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i think they dont have it anymore tho

latent mural
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I'm one of those people who round down to 0 everything bellow 5% of a total

fair gull
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i will admit its very unlikely to find one

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but we bought that for a customer whos a lawyer and they wanted a big screen to show files to their clients

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this way we got nice 4k - 60hz no hassle

latent mural
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i got the tv with the best picture for the price

fair gull
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are u sure the tv def support 4k at 60hz?

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as in spec wise

latent mural
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it's a 2018 tv

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it supports hdr at limited colour range 60hz 4k

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im trying to figure out what is this magical 60hz 4k full range with small artefacts that are not at all the same as a limited colour range, when windows even says it's an 8 bit connection

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the tv says hdr

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it looks hdr too

latent mural
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battlefield v keeps crashing left and right, like just in the menu

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i have this impression that the hdr data is sent at 1080

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can't even launch the game now....

fallow bison
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Does it also crash on 1080?

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Or 1440 maybe

karmic grail
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offer this guy $50

latent mural
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tbh

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it'S not worth imo

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the scrollwheel is pretty bad and recessed

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and the coarting on my phantom got bad after little use

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@fallow bison i got it to run but it really crashes whenever whatever

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tried 4k , 1080, hdr,

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just crashes in the menu randomly and when changing graphics settings

fallow bison
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Thats, odd

latent mural
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i have this illusion hdr made it crash more

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i hope it's not a dead rtx...

fair gull
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then it would crash with other games at 4k too

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like ark

latent mural
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maybe its the tensor cores

fair gull
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like i said it would also happen in ark then

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they use some rtx things

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altho ark got other problems

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it doesnt work with the new nvidia drivers i think and dx11...

latent mural
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you seem to often has this misconception that a small something is everything :p

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i dont have ark

fair gull
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ffxiv?

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any game that uses rtx shit

latent mural
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i dont have anything else that runs rtx

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hence i said maybe it's the tensors

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and there's this weird ghosting with dlss on in bfv...

fair gull
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theres prob some python code to test tensor cores

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i have weird ghosting with dlss aswell together with some weird other issues

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like flickering textures etc

latent mural
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that rayytraced quake 2 was fine, not sure if it used the tensors

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in bfv there was a round big dot going from many light sources 1 cycle per second

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from light source to ground surface

fair gull
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dont own bfv so i cant test it myself

latent mural
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i wanted to video it but it crashed

fair gull
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does the entire system crash or only the game?

latent mural
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just the game