is the end of the contrac thrye beef it up
#🔌│tech
pale sigil
zenith sonnet
I'd happily pay 1€ more for stable 200 mbit Q.Q
gentle turret
the only substantial price rise should be at the end of a new customer contract
when the new customer discounts run out
that's entirely down to ofcom regulating competition based on how many people are switching providers
gentle turret
I do love how oddly backwards virgins bundles are
the most you buy the more you save, you can pay less by just adding something else to the package
pale sigil
its because it costs them nothing
gentle turret
but if they're reducing your monthly bill by you taking more services then it is costing them
because they're getting less from you
pale sigil
they aren't reducing it tho
i have been with them for like 4-5 years
And they clearly dont want me to go away
gentle turret
when I say you in that sentence I don't mean you
gentle turret
it's cheaper to buy VIVID350 with a phone line than VIVID350 without
you actually pay less for more
zenith sonnet
Well, I can get my contract without phone for 5 quid less
gentle turret
I pay £50 for 350mbps broadband only
gentle turret
there is no line to rent
pale sigil
then why the fuck are we paying so much
gentle turret
I think some areas used to have virgin just use openreach for the phone line
so there actually was line rental then
openreach line rental is pretty extreme these days
I think when I left talktalk it was £20 for line rental
paying that much per month to rent a copper line they haven't changed since before I was born seems obscene
zenith sonnet
Any comments on that Aorus AD27QD, though? 🤔
ornate forge
display with rgb on the back. Ugh
toxic jolt
@zenith sonnet lots of "tricks" going on in the background
the biggest thing is how they claim it's an "IPS" display, but also has 1ms response time
toxic jolt
I'm told that's not possible. Me and a friend did some digging, and figured out what the deal is
toxic jolt
On their page, they describe it like a TN panel, but it's really just an IPS with 5ms response, then they strobe the backlight
toxic jolt
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
which would be alright, if it wasn't advertised as 1ms right on the title
zenith sonnet
I don't even know what motion picture response time means
Is that with blur reduction on or what?
toxic jolt
they turn off the backlight while the IPS changes it's pixels
so you don't see the transition
zenith sonnet
Anyway, in the review it still got excellent scores for display lag and actual response time
toxic jolt
the backlight is all it is
you can't accurately measure that closely
at 144hz, you give or take about 7ms of input lag depending on where the screen is in the refresh
best being 0, worst being 7
so having an extra 4 in there doesn't really show up
granted, I'm making a mountain out of a mole hill
still seems really scammy to me
zenith sonnet
The 4ms actually means nothing relevant
It's a measure for one single transition
Leaving all others unaccounted for
toxic jolt
yup
STILL, does that make it okay to straight up cover up what panel you're using
or lie about the numbers?
toxic jolt
better than most gaming monitors, though
zenith sonnet
True
My FS2735 doesn't have it
But it's 3 years old now
Looks better than the Samsung display, tbh
I'd like to see a fresh Eizo 144Hz WQHD Freesync display, though
With those additional 3 years of experience built in
Although I suspect the next thing we'll see from them is 144Hz 4k Freesync
zenith sonnet
Afterburner 4.6 stable released
karmic grail
😱
ashen spindle
custom thing or is that a ryzen pro? I know they at least have black IHSs on the ads
oh wait nvm its a 3000 series so not offical 
solar hinge
@pale sigil what needed replacing?
karmic grail
@ashen spindle it's a fan made pic, in reference to the old "Black edition" amd chips
ashen spindle
ah, didn't care about hardware when that was a thing
chrome estuary
i really just want the proc itself but yeah IHS is nice
I'll upgrade to probs top or near top of line 3rd gen Ryzen when it's released and sell my 2700x to a friend who's already offered to buy it when that day comes
crude cipher
Yeah I really want to upgrade to 3rd gen from 1st but I just got a new graphics card so I'll probably wait for 4th as well
zenith sonnet
I just got new graphics and I'm going for highest clocks third gen ^^
Would also be cool if hybrid crossfire became a thing again
Or something that uses the iGPU for compute
Like True Audio
reef patrol
So .. Directx 12? 
karmic grail
Sill looking for a wraith Prism cooler
😡 I'm trying to find one for under 30$
pls help
timid chasm
I hope ryzen 3000 has noticeable improvement in game performance. If they do I'll probably try and get a 3850x for the hell of it
zenith sonnet
I'd be very surprised if it didn't
Although I believe there's a few things Microsoft needs to improve as well
karmic grail
hope single core performance gets better
zenith sonnet
That's almost a given
karmic grail
*gets better to the point where it's near Intel performance in games
zenith sonnet
Isn't it more or less just about clocks then?
zenith sonnet
Lol, the Radeon VII's went up in price
karmic grail
didnt someone in this discord have 1 or 2?
zenith sonnet
<
zenith sonnet
Pretty happy with them, actually
karmic grail
how are power draws/temps with them
zenith sonnet
~65C GPU / 85C junction temps in Time Spy or Fire Strike Stress test
1801 Mhz core (~1780 MHz average), 1200Mhz memory, 960mV core
The other card does the same at 930mV core and a good 10C lower
iirc
Fans left on auto, they go up to 2500 RPM in the worst case
karmic grail
that doesnt sound too bad for stock cooling
zenith sonnet
It's way better than nearly every review I've seen
Then again, they had to work on buggy drivers
19.2.2 was the first driver that officially supported the card and came out like 3 weeks later
19.3.1 I think gave a few more improvements in Wattman, it just works now
zenith sonnet
Lol, I've watched the biggest disappointments of 2018 video on GamersNexus yesterday
2080 was the winner there
fallow bison
Yo 2500 max rpm
I wish i had that, my rx580 sounds like its bout to take off when under ful lload
karmic grail
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
fallow bison
Spins up to_ 3100_ rpm max
Sound absolutely horrible
Custom fancurve fixes it mostly, though
This shits just rediculous
karmic grail
i have fans on 1200rpm ❤
fallow bison
Never hits this anymore, though. luckily
zenith sonnet
That sounds bad for a 580
fallow bison
Nah max it ever hit was before my custom fancurve
Something like 3100
Still waaay too high
Max rn is 2500 or so
karmic grail
zenith sonnet
Case ventilation? Dust? Reseat the HSF? 🤔
zenith sonnet
@karmic grail 0-10000 range is a bit overkill
fallow bison
Hehe
karmic grail
haha i dont know how to change it lol
fallow bison
Bob, you have a 1070, right
karmic grail
@fallow bison yes
@zenith sonnet whats the max it should be
zenith sonnet
I dunno, about as high as it could ever go, rounded up to the next 1000
So maybe 2 or 3000
fallow bison
I'd set it to 2500 for 1070
fallow bison
Just to have a lil more detail than 3k, but more range than 2k
zenith sonnet
Did you save?
zenith sonnet
Modify the right graph?
karmic grail
yes modified the right graph, save restart didnt work
its like forcing itself to 10000
karmic grail
ah fixed it
zenith sonnet
Why does it show the card drawing 40W of power in idle? 😲
karmic grail
wait msi afterburner shows you power usage?
karmic grail
@latent mural im ready for tomorrow 10am
latent mural
rip me I guess
karmic grail
glorious model O releases tomorrow 😄
latent mural
caseking starts preorders on monday
fallow bison
Didn't for my 1050ti,does for my rx580
karmic grail
i might actually be still asleep for me
zenith sonnet
Minimum stock fan speed for the card is 30%
karmic grail
oop 12PM i guess it is
zenith sonnet
stays at a cool 33-35C for all components
karmic grail
i feel like i might be actually choking my 1070
50c idle - 33% fan speed
OC'd tho
latent mural
oof
tbh
you might actually get more performance without OC
my 1080 hates OC and actually get'S me more performacne stock
couldn't bother to try undervolting yet
zenith sonnet
Graphics score
9 077
Neato
60C max GPU temp, 83C max junction temp
2500 RPM max fan speed
1780Mhz average, 1200 mem
244W peak power draw, about 190W average
zenith sonnet
Not sure why it's still drawing 40W idle
should be more like 15W
CPU score
6 104
Ugh, I guess? What does a 2700X get?
karmic grail
what benchmark you using?
karmic grail
also can you identify this gpu?
zenith sonnet
Too small, too blurry
karmic grail
crank this video up to 4k
zenith sonnet
I can't find 2700X results on 3DMARK
What do they list the CPU as?
Oh, the search is broken
They have results
karmic grail
lmao
latent mural
looks like an xfx
zenith sonnet
2700X @4.05GHz gets about 10k points
latent mural
maybe hd6xxx series
karmic grail
@latent mural found it tyty
latent mural
it'S a xfx hd 7750
karmic grail
surprisingly looks alot like a single fan radeon 7 lol
zenith sonnet
Lol, with just a 2700X I'd get about 50% higher CPU score and over 10k points in Time Spy
Can't wait for Zen 2
karmic grail
ill skip on 3rd gen, wait for 4th gen ryzen (and i have no money CRY)
karmic grail
2020 seems a bit early for 4th gen
karmic grail
how do you write 12tb on (i would assume) boot drive
solar hinge
look at the last picture 😮
karmic grail
WTF 37GB
solar hinge
euhm 32.7
solar hinge
and TB :p
karmic grail
i dont wanna write too much on my 970 evo
karmic grail
glitch? or actual written gb/tb's
reef patrol
Actual.
karmic grail
idk why but i wanna slap some more rgb in my pc
RGB fan looks tempting
i need 2 only tho
reef patrol
Solve what 😁
reef patrol
karmic grail
although its just a ring RGB, prefer a full LL120 like fan
reef patrol
RGB MUSIC STOPS
latent mural
you should ratehr get a corsair ML fan
karmic grail
35$ eac
reef patrol
Mixing brands is a no no
fallow bison
I think this is pretty reasonably for a 5month old drive
reef patrol
I'm such a lazy boi. My main OS NVME has 6.1TB written in total.
960 EVO. had it for a year
zenith sonnet
Mine's a little over 3 years
I also actually still have my first SSD from 2009 connected
Sata2
latent mural
my 840 only died shortly after I got my other drives about half a year ago
like 3 days after
zenith sonnet
Anyway, why shouldn't the old SSD still work?
latent mural
it came out of a datacenter
zenith sonnet
30 TB is about 800x overwriting the drive
crude cipher
@zenith sonnet old drives didn't have as good durability
warped dove
@karmic grail well I was worried that it was much too large for a light, liftable mouse
chrome estuary
look if my mouse can't concuss someone, it ain't good enouh m80
warped dove
1/2 m v^2
bro
haughty condor
That's cheap shipping to aus
I just emailed my PR contact
I want each color so much
pale sigil
Mines like 12tb lol
My ssd I mean
Take that back 20tb
How the fuck have I wrote 20tb
ashen spindle
well do you have it for 2 months? 2 years?
ashen spindle
I have 39TB and have it for 1 1/2 years now I think
pale sigil
Well I was very wrong I've had this ssd for nearly 2 years or seems
1 year 8 months
Not to bad then
crude cipher
Weird my WD Blue 3D 2TB reports itself as a SanDisk Ultra 3D
They're the same thing with different branding, I just would have expected the labeling to go deeper than the sticker
warped dove
21.5 TB on my 850 PRO (windows updates failed for a year or two, completely thrashing the drive with boot loops and big downloads), luckily it has a 10 year warranty and 600TB writes rating. My downloads, streaming and games usually go to hard disks. Gonna get a 970 EVO Plus for m.2 eventually, ideally it'll be less abused.
crude cipher
60k GB written on this drive in 1.5 years
warped dove
Glorious Model O specs are out and " Menisforte " did a brief first impressions. Looks good, omron 20m. I assume that the DPI stages can be programmed through optional software.
crude cipher
My drive life is at 96.7% or so
warped dove
Mine also claims 97%
For mice, anyone have an opinion on glossy vs matte for a skinny-hands not-clammy/not-sweaty guy like me? This video is saying glossy has "a way better grip", and I do like to lift'off. Glossy ugly, even tacky though...
crude cipher
I think they're almost certainly exaggerating. Grip is more dependent on materials and mouse shape than surface finish
I have a G502 so my thumb is sitting in a rubber well
The Model O looks like an intrinsically harder to grab mouse.
Just due to profile and materials
warped dove
Ah you know I should clarify, he is holding a glossy and a matte mouse in the video. Though his comments may stay be primarily informed by his previously-held opinions. I also notice that he's a pretty large guy.
Model O has no build in grip but it does have an informed shape with slight overhang that lets you lightly pinch or claw onto the sides, making it easy to lift.
Lack of the shape design is the #1 reason I won't but the Ninox Astrum, though I'd love love the extra side buttons.
warped dove
Suspiciously, Glossy is $10 more... Which feels like it lends some weight to the idea that glossy is generally better if you don't have the shortcoming of sweating too much. I realise it's probably just an expensive coating process.
ashen spindle
Suspiciously, I dont see it on caseking 
ashen spindle
oh idk, dont want it, just wanted to take a look at it
warped dove
That is an extreme contrast... If you really like 502 then it's odd to switch.
karmic grail
From heavy and a brick to a lightweight ant
karmic grail
My OnePlus 6 gets unlocked by a black and white paper copy of my face
works about 10-20% of the time
zenith sonnet
Changed something minor in BIOS
power goes out on the next boot
board assumes failed overclock and resets BIOS
zenith sonnet
😱
plush summit
no
the real crime would be preforming a bios update during a thunderstorm
without a surge protector
unkempt pewter
That’s why you get a UPS.
:p
Power outages can happen at any time.
UPS and a SOIC clip and flasher.
pale sigil
the real crime is rime
unkempt pewter
There are good ones.
Expensive tho.
Probably not. Considering how modern PC supplies need cleaner sine waves.
latent mural
it's likely one guy and he somehow needs to make a living
it's not like he sells one everyday
karmic grail
might be a small company similar to wooting
latent mural
with a much smaller market though
latent mural
@karmic grail preorders for the Model O went live in germany, they will start delivery in may though
fickle ore
Don't get the hype for model O. Doesn't do anything Astrum doesn't
latent mural
it releases
has virgin grade ptfe skates
has a more flexible cable
seems like it is lighter
and the shape and size is pretty close to an fk1, which is extremely good
it isn't clearly a better mosue, but it has quite a lot of things going for it
fickle ore
astrum will have more flexible cable and same ptfe skates. Probably same weight aswell
Astrum is just better allaround but whatever
ornate forge
no cable is better than best cable these days
logitech has 80g wireless mice (tad expensive tho T_T)
ashen spindle
well according to the info I found Astrum will be ~20g heavier
fickle ore
75/76/76.5g respectively for the different shapes for Astrum
thats around 5g more than Model O, hardly 20g difference. Waiting to see what the real weight for O is, its marketed at 69 we'll see.
ashen spindle
oh, read it was 60g for the O, must've misread it or had a bad source
fickle ore
Astrum has optical switches/wheel, f/w tuned for low latency, adjustable sensor position, adjustable shells and side buttons. Don't get me wrong not hating on O, just can't wrap my head around the hype
I'll drill holes on it and it'll be lighter than the O anyway
ashen spindle
better marketing, never heard of the Astrum till now
fickle ore
Ahh probably why
It'll use the most flexible cable/paracord he can pass the FCC/CE testing with. Hopefully I won't have to paracord it. Finalmouse was able to pass with the phantom cable aswell
ashen spindle
ya the phantom cable is really nice, don't even notice there is a cable when I move the mouse
latent mural
@fickle ore haven't seen any virgin grade skates on any astrum pictures
those are ALWAYS white
fickle ore
Cause it doesnt have any skates yet.. But he says on the updates he will use undyed virgin PTFE
latent mural
phantom/shoelace cable is pretty nice, but unfortunaltey still far off from paracord
fickle ore
also it will delivered also in april or may
latent mural
btw, the astrum seems to be quite big
fickle ore
Odin O has to pass FCC/CE too you know
latent mural
ikj
fickle ore
prolly use same cable anyways
fickle ore
astrum is pretty medium size, has 1cm button overhang
which makes that seem tall mouse
but in reality isnt
ashen spindle
I'm just glad that there are more mice coming that aren't a brick and also not limited like the finalmouse
fickle ore
pretty much, but cba deal with mechanical switches anymore that break in few months or pray that the manufacturer didnt fucked up debounce code
latent mural
It feels much worse than zowie and sits so deep that I accidentally click when scrolling
ashen spindle
yeah I hear that alot but I have no issues with my wheel 
latent mural
I legit won't use my phantom just because of that
And because I know that the wheel will break sooner or later anyways
ashen spindle
maybe I just got lucky and mine has no issue, wouldn't mind that 😄
latent mural
The model O seems pretty promising currently, let's hope they don't mess up
fickle ore
do you like the WMO shape?
latent mural
Haven't had much chance to try it
Looks like a solid shape though, although it seems a little flat
latent mural
Well, pretty much any ambi shape is based on the wmo
And pretty much any shape is based on the intellimouse
ashen spindle
I used to have a G500 and still haven't found a shape that I like as much or more
latent mural
alpha shape looks more like a razer copperhead
fickle ore
yeah its pretty similar
warped dove
Have "optical" switches been seen on any mouse that actually exists?
fickle ore
yes
warped dove
Good answer. But please can you provide the name of it?
fallow bison
Wellll all light tracking mice are optical
fickle ore
;P
latent mural
who thought a metal cable would be a good idea
fickle ore
iirc they all use bloody LK switches except the Maxtill one uses optical magnetic switches
latent mural
yea
fickle ore
would love to hear more about those though
latent mural
razter is also very likely to bring out a new mouse with optical switches
fickle ore
haha yeah thge HP Omen Reactor has cable weighing more than the mouse lol
latent mural
since they already source the bloody lk switches for their huntsman keyboard
fickle ore
yeah they brought out their own optical switches for their keyb
latent mural
nah
fickle ore
Ohh those arent their own?
latent mural
they got the one from bloody
fickle ore
ahh oke
don't really keep tabs on Razer. Their software requires internet so no thx 😄
latent mural
their mice also require software to remember their dpi
fickle ore
Yeah I guess you can save 0.2g weight not including onboard memory. Next level shit for Finalmemers
latent mural
you can also save 0.2 cents
fickle ore
true builds up
warped dove
nagga, please don't drill holes in your astrum
fickle ore
whyy
warped dove
For one, drilling causes plastic to heat, making a spikey ugly mess. There'll also be an edge where the coating ends where you cut it and it might flake away especially if you touch the holes.
fickle ore
Only thing I liked Razer for is their use of Philips Twineye but they couldnt fix Z-axis tracking so joke's on them
warped dove
The mouse is supposedly designed to encourage 3d printing your own components. Either try that or buy a part from an artisan/enthusiast.
latent mural
but the base shell will still be solid
fickle ore
You are right. Hadn't given thought to coating flaking away due to the holes
latent mural
just sand it off
warped dove
There are several coating choices. Some limited edition (rubber, iridescent)
fickle ore
many colours aswell
latent mural
tbh I only care about black
warped dove
Honestly though the mod-ability idea is a pipedream. No one has the resources to 3D print good parts with good coatings.
fickle ore
glossy dark chrome, matte blue metallic shine, glossy purple metallic shine, matte red metallic, matte green metallic, rubber coating Grey colour, and then basic black matte and basic white matte
latent mural
if you have some hard filament it should be fine
fickle ore
can still get it
hehe
I got the purple glossy
I can't sand it Yama, gets rid of glossy and glossy has the best grip for me. Literally sticks to my hand. I can lift the mouse without gripping it basically
latent mural
I meant for 3d printed parts
if you sand them with 400 grid you get a pretty grippy finish
fickle ore
ah ye
latent mural
and if you really need maximum grip some hockey/baseball tape will do
fickle ore
it's kinda shame no sensor mousefeet on O and Astrum
One good thing about Astrum is that you can take the mouse apart without taking the mouse feet off, so can tweak alots and change paracord etc without having to apply new feet
pale sigil
refurbs are covered for warrenty right @reef patrol
reef patrol
Huh... Guess your ass is covered 😁
pale sigil
They claim its not
reef patrol
Tell them to read up on EU law, and inform them, that if they don't follow the law in which they operate, you'll contact your national consumer rights organisation and make them hurt.
pale sigil
"Whereas the specific nature of second-hand goods makes it generally impossible to replace them; whereas therefore the consumer's right of replacement is generally not available for these goods; whereas for such goods"
pretty vague
reef patrol
Right of REPLACEMENT, not REFUND.
pale sigil
However
pale sigil
"3. Member States may provide that the expression "consumer goods" does not cover second-hand goods sold at public auction where consumers have the opportunity of attending the sale in person."
fair gull
amazon is not an auction u can attend publicly
pale sigil
mhmm
and its not ebay either, if it was sold by a random person maybe
but it was sold directly from a retailer
aka amazon
fair gull
ya so they have to replace it
reef patrol
They're just saying that you shouldn't expect to get a replacement product, and instead should assume to get a refund.
pale sigil
Bit concerning if they are like this if the mouse dies in say 6 months 😄 then again im covered by amazon for a year.
But still...
if i get a refund it will just cost me more money to replace
karmic grail
@latent mural orders went live in Australia on Sunday, but shipping delivers on late March early april
latent mural
They also received the new ISO GMMKs
karmic grail
Also think I might have been first to order in Australia
Finished my order in 2min from releasing
ashen spindle
it's only on the beta right now
latent mural
how do I download the beta?
ashen spindle
check the pins in #archived_wootility_beta_feedback but be aware that it's still a beta and thus you might encounter some bugs
latent mural
thank you
latent mural
didn't they tell you anything in advance?
reef patrol
karmic grail
I knew it was going to be late
They said on the website (late march, early April)
but didn't expect "April 30th"
solar hinge
I'll bet you €5 that it's going to be delayed further
fair gull
@solar hinge its not the wooting two
solar hinge
So you want to bet?
chrome estuary
Yeah. The twooting is a keyboard. This is a mouse
karmic grail
if the g502 wireless gets released before model O ships out
ill maybe cancel my model O order and buy wireless g502
latent mural
just buy paracord, it's much cheaper
karmic grail
If I get paracord I might as well get feet right?
latent mural
yep
get some from either corepad or hyperglides
nah
paracord is ~15
and feet are around 10
with postage you add about 5 to each
feet get sent in a letter
and my paracord was too
I meant you should do that instead of upgrading rom a g502 to a g502 wireless if it coems out
since the g502 is so heavy that wireless makes too little of a difference
for most mice yes
although paracord is stull better
the g502 has an extra bad cable though
the one on the 502 is worse
it's really bad
was semi fixed on the hero varaiant
latent mural
no
karmic grail
🤒
latent mural
paraflexcables is likely cheaper for aus
idk how import is handled in aus
since they noticed how much better a good cable is
yep
karmic grail
$15 🤒
latent mural
makes a big difference though
not most important
but a bad cable can ruin a mouse
well
if you pay a high price for a product so you can expect it too be good
have you heard about griptape though?
and for the price of a good bungee I can get 2 cables
fickle ore
I like default glides better than 3rd party
latent mural
have you tried rubber stoppers from ikea?
karmic grail
@fallow bison I gagged when I saw that font
fallow bison
I threw up
fair gull
the fuck are glides
latent mural
he means skates
fair gull
the fuck are skates
latent mural
mouse feet
fair gull
oh u mean like the rubber feet
karmic grail
$20 for 2 sets on ebay
fair gull
id rather buy 2 mice for that money
latent mural
oof
karmic grail
can you actually get good mouse for $20
fickle ore
no
fair gull
mine costs like 9.90
latent mural
logitech m100
fickle ore
depends how you measure "good"
fair gull
it works great idk why id spend more
it does everything like clicking and moving the cursor
fair gull
idk i can 360 with it in 1 drag
latent mural
that doesn't say anything about the sensor
karmic grail
😂
fair gull
@digital cliff nit a bait my actual mouse
i couldnt give less craps about extra buttons etc
latent mural
btw
fair gull
it works fine and i can replace the switches so ya
fair gull
i have like 50 of them here for 9,90
latent mural
from when?
fair gull
this is in my store btw
latent mural
10 years ago?
fair gull
idk we had hundreds of them
like 5years ago
mine is like 2years now from when i brought it home
works like a treat
karmic grail
I'm actually a bit scared taking the g502 apart
latent mural
oh I am sur eit works
fair gull
before that i had a g100 which failed after 6months
karmic grail
Reading about the two small springs that you can lose
latent mural
the logitech office mice never seem to break
latent mural
and that is likely a faulty mice
fair gull
the only thing id like would be a braded cord
karmic grail
fair gull
not getting caught on my slide out tray
karmic grail
😂
karmic grail
#relatable
fair gull
dude my room is too small rn for a normal desk
karmic grail
RELATABLE
fair gull
moving soon and then hopefully imma have a real desk
latent mural
s braided cable won't help then
fickle ore
braided cable is retarded invention
fair gull
idk the wooting cable didnt catch anything yet
fickle ore
adds weight + catches on mousepads
latent mural
maybe try to get a used g305 from ebay kleinanzeigen would help?
fickle ore
literally useless
karmic grail
fleimi has roasted me about my sliding table
not literally roasted but close enough
😂
fickle ore
keyboard tray would be nice
latent mural
@fair gull https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/logitech-g305-gaming-mouse-gamer-maus/1068226170-225-1286 get this instead
karmic grail
latent mural
I'll assure you that it won't get any cable stuck anywhere
karmic grail
never
forget
fair gull
is that wireless? and it has gaming in the name
latent mural
yea
fair gull
fuck wireless
latent mural
logitech wireless is flawless
fair gull
how bout that
latent mural
for which reason?
karmic grail
Logitech's wireless is pretty good ngl
latent mural
has no more input lag than a wired mouse
karmic grail
Tried my friends 403 wireless for a week and it was good
fickle ore
It has
latent mural
and actually uses a decent sensor
fickle ore
1-4ms more input lag than wired ;P
fair gull
i dont like the fact it needs batteries
latent mural
has weeks if not months of battery life
fair gull
and then i need to change em in a battle
hell ya
my current mouse hasnt stopped working once
latent mural
but it gets stuck on your table
fair gull
only when i slide the tray in and out
which i try to avoid rn
and only do if i go away for a few days
karmic grail
idk I should go through the hassle of waiting on a refund and buy feet+paracord OR just wait for my model O
latent mural
wait for the model o
karmic grail
@fair gull git gud slide the tray in and out every day
fair gull
like on my razer shit board the mouse cable wasnt a problem cause it had usb passthrough
so i rolled it up zip tied it and had it on the kbd
nothing catching anywhere
karmic grail
I slide my tray in and out every day with the g502 cable literally paperclipped to the edge
fickle ore
@karmic grail just wait for Model O
karmic grail
ya I guess I will
fair gull
@digital cliff na u cant convince someone that doesnt see a reason to spend more than 10bucks on a mouse
latent mural
you legit can get a g203 used for 15€
fair gull
give me 1 reason why i should switch from my currently perfectly fine mouse
karmic grail
well it is really down to personal opinion
fair gull
with titanium sensors and whatnot
fair gull
used
fair gull
latent mural
I'd rather reccomend using tape and a paper clip
karmic grail
I'll stick to my paperclip I guess
karmic grail
holy smoll screenshot
latent mural
those are shit though
latent mural
ik
latent mural
and spin out
fair gull
the fuck is spin out
latent mural
and then the cursor is somewhere on the edge of your screen
or you spin 500 times in a shooter
nice
fair gull
never had that happen in 2 years
karmic grail
TIL a mouse can spin out
latent mural
if you try to move one of those too fast it happens
fair gull
the only game that does it is wow and guess what i tried multiple mice even from friends who have a razer mamba and it does it
latent mural
razer mice are also shit
the very old ones are fine in comparison to other mice fro mthat era
fair gull
so basically u told me "when u try to be a progamer with it it will be shit"
latent mural
nah
if you try using it while gaming they usually perform pretty bad
has nothing to do with "progamer"
latent mural
tbh
karmic grail
i need a low profile bungee
karmic grail
yea I remember someone here listing that
latent mural
no monitor mounts for me
karmic grail
or someone HAS it
fair gull
tbh i dont get the spinout never had it happen to me
fickle ore
the shape of that rx250 is amazing ill give you that
latent mural
tbh
if you manage to rub the logo off you should contact logitech
and tehy'll send you a new one
latent mural
do it on twitter
fickle ore
but the mouse is 125hz and probably malfunctions at over 1m/s speeds
latent mural
and they'll do it for publicity
fair gull
hm seems like a good plan
desolder switches solder in faulty ones and get a new one cause the logo rubbed off
i mean i have some logitech ones with rubbed off logos somewhere
like 20€ mice or smth
that we got back from a lease of a school
chrome estuary
I've rubbed the logos off my logitechs before.
solar hinge
didn't you buy it from amazon itself?
pale sigil
Ye
plush summit
thats a mighty fuck you
latent mural
subpixel text on this 4k tv is shimmering around the characters
but also images
and in different ways in different parts of the screen
so strange
it looks like someone added a bit of jpeg to everything and then animated it
crimson wigeon
👌
crimson wigeon
Oh yeah that too try disabling any image "enhancements"
latent mural
all disabled
input renamed to pc and all that stuff
see that blue bit? it's shimmering even
blue noise
can be a different colour depending on what is in use
I would think it's the differing but.. it's weird
it's sdr, there's nothing to differ
reef patrol
latent mural
huh
i've tested this yesterday!
but now setting it to hdr>sdr made it work
well.. it's lesss
much less but it's there
I blame android tv
latent mural
wait a sec.. nvidia panel only allows me to use 8 bit
toxic jolt
Time for CRU
latent mural
well if i set the refresh rate to 24hz i can select 12bpc, but now the problem is ever worse
as in the blue glow is even bigger
the cable should be fine.
4:2:2 made it work
but now its not 4:4:4
maybe it is the cable?...
crimson wigeon
But it's digital it doesn't make sense 🤔
latent mural
something something bandwidth
i've now noticed that the other, much longer high speed hdmi cable drops a few pixels
Not sure how it figures out if a cable is 2.0 or not
reef patrol
Begins ranting about how there is no such thing as a 2.0 cable, just sjitty cables and good cables with better insulation
reef patrol
latent mural
but in some ways im even more confused
I need to figure out if hdr is actually on
and when
reef patrol
Easy to enable - Usually easy to spot in browsers.
But if your monitor isn't at least 800HDR it isn't going to be a crazy experience.
latent mural
I think it's on, but nvidia control panel says 8 bit, windows display settings say hdr video streaming - yes (if you set it to any limited colour range it will say no) and the tv is reporting a full, not limited colour range and hdr10
and the tv is showing me the resolution mode every once and a while, maybe 20 minutes, as if it got reset or unplugged
latent mural
what is this mystical full range rgb 10 bit 60hz hdmi 2.0 with small artefacts
zenith sonnet
It's not 144Hz, so probably some old artefact from the past?
latent mural
i mean at 4k
zenith sonnet
4k is meaningless until they hit the celestial numbers
latent mural
no u
zenith sonnet
Is it possible to show the Afterburner/RTSS OSD on the second display or somewhere else than in the 3D app?
latent mural
Trying to check if hdr is working but bfv keeps crashing
And now it crashed in the starting menu
latent mural
DLSS is interesting in bfv in the snow level. At 4k on this 2070 it has the performance of exactly 78% resolution scaling. But I can't say 78% looks better, I see very obvious sharpening.
All while DLSS is clearly interpolating between half framerate, there's a very clear motion blur
Y'know DLSS looks like the nvidia edge filter on vegetation in crysis 2 and a vectoriser had a baby
Ok I bumped up the sharpness on the tv from nothing to 20% and it without a doubt looks better than 79%,
But the ghosting is still there
fair gull
using a tv
ashen spindle
just get a BFGD then 
latent mural
Sure let me wait forever
fair gull
big fucking ghidra disassembler?
latent mural
I haven't felt immersed in a 2d game in any shape or form since I was 12.
Then I played on a giant screen in front of my face with fancy sound and u finally did
🐸
Quint: I'm sure this was half the price
And in a local store
ashen spindle
oh yeah definitely cheaper lmao
fair gull
and not 144hz and prob has massive input lag cause its a tv
fair gull
oh and did i mention ghosting
fair gull
doubt
latent mural
And y know
What can run 144 4k at medium settings
A ti right now and not in 1 year?
fair gull
2 rtx 2080tis overlcoked
latent mural
So in other words nothing
ashen spindle
depends on the game, csgo would probably do very well
latent mural
Heh
fair gull
ya literally is game dependant
latent mural
Safe to say: nothing
ashen spindle
also the bfgd does have gsynch so it's nice even if its not constantly 144fps
ashen spindle
doubt it, since its a nvidia showproduct
fair gull
so u can actually get 4k at 60hz
latent mural
Nvlink 2080tis for gaming is for people who need to sort out their priorities
latent mural
I mostly work on a tv
Have to deal with a lot of bitmap guis
So the more relestate the better
I can't imagine running 4k DLSS on low in 2 years on this 2070
latent mural
Well you won't find out with that attitude
I wonder why games omit sharpening on dlss
Maybe they can't pluck that out of their post processing pipeline
Huh. I can see some kind of interlaced dots on still snow
No random seeds here, that's for sure
That dlss ghosting https://imgur.com/a/zZ1jv9a
Crazy stuff
pale sigil
I GOT RID OF THE SMUDGE @fair gull
latent mural
i thought it was supposed to be better against ghosting than taa
pale sigil
Had to use alco wipes
fair gull
what smudge
pale sigil
fair gull
????
pale sigil
on the right click
fair gull
i didnt even know about this
pale sigil
@latent mural
fair gull
was just a bit random but good for u bro
latent mural
ye
chrome estuary
So I've got this m570. My logo is white no longer. I've used it so much that you can only see where it used to be
or there was one with the black logo apparently, idfk
plush summit
when installing arch, do you need to install ethernet drivers?
reef patrol
Nope. I use dishwash soap and a large rag to clean mine
ashen spindle
did that (the video) years ago and it worked fine
chrome estuary
@plush summit No.
chrome estuary
okay I've not manually installed Arch for fucking ever. I always used Arch-Anywhere (Now known as Anarchy Linux) but after getting sick and tired of the AUR being heavily depended on, I switched to Ubuntu.
But I'm like 95% sure Arch comes with dhcpcd.
plush summit
.....guess i should odownload the package aand see for myself
because i cant ping
i dont even have ifconfig command
chrome estuary
what the flippity fuck
Let's do a barrel roll on this my friend and give me a few minutes because apparently I don't remember anything.
yeah dhcpcd is part of the base group which should come on the thing.
plush summit
....
chrome estuary
uh... try redownloading the iso?
or if you don't feel like installing manually, Antergos is an option.
chrome estuary
I really wish I could help you. But I have no fucking clue what to say or do.