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spare wave
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I am shit at aiming anyways, it's just that for some stuff like SFM it is more comfortable to just have lower DPI.

fair gull
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i dont get 400 dpi and 2000+ dpi

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windows has a dpi setting?

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im at 1000

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this is how i like it

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everything below is too slow

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3000

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wot

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how even

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thats way too fast imo

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how does one use windows with that

fair gull
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i just tried it

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was too fast imo

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good my mouse doesnt go over 2500

latent mural
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better than 400/1600

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forget about 3200

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the sticker is removed

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ewww

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wireless before good wireless

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the 2070 i ordered got delayed till the 20.

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ye

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either a delayed brick

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dafuck

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or a strangled brick

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rip

pale sigil
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@latent mural dont think this anne pro will be of any use to you

latent mural
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why?

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didn't really look at the pictures

pale sigil
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pcb is fucked most likely

latent mural
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rip

pale sigil
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you can still have it like

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but ye

latent mural
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sure

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i'll take it

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The rtx series is selling so bad that there are never any in stock

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@latent mural do you live in australia?

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no

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or any other bad supplied place?

fair gull
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why does everyone think the rtx cards are bricks

latent mural
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?

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i meant the g700s

pale sigil
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plenty here in the uk

latent mural
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my supply chain goes through poland, i bet it's those damn poles

fair gull
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oh

latent mural
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the rtx cards are bulky

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but I Iike that personally

fair gull
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not as bulky as amd cards btw

latent mural
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sure

pale sigil
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dont like how thick they are

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and its one reason i dont want one :p

latent mural
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rtx has a lot of 3 slot designs

pale sigil
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i couldn[t care less for raytrace

latent mural
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I like how the blower MSI card is sitting in stock for months

fair gull
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mine is 2slot

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@pale sigil dlss tho

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and tensorcores

latent mural
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ye

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but hbm2 does antialiasing well enough to not care about dlss

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and tensorcores are useless to the average consumer

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btw @pale sigil tell me what shipping to germany costs and your paypal and I'll pay it to you

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Some sellers are selling 2070 rtxes for 470 euro..

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yes?

pale sigil
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mostly depends who you want to go with

latent mural
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should be a ratehr normal price

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ehh

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I don't really care about the shipping company

pale sigil
latent mural
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pls no hermes

fair gull
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make sure to ship before brexxit

latent mural
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other than that I don't care at all

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do the ups express delivery

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I don't care about the few euros more

pale sigil
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Well, i will try and sort it out by next week, i dont have a printer so i have to do it at uni

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xd

latent mural
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lol

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I can print it out and send you the shipping label dogelul

pale sigil
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if mum goes into town ill tag along and do it that way too

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post office

fair gull
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wait how old is callum

latent mural
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500ish

pale sigil
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13

reef patrol
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πŸ˜„

fair gull
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thats what i guessed

pale sigil
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oi

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i will shank you

fair gull
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with ur playmobil knife?

latent mural
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Oy

pale sigil
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i have one with my toy kitchen from when i was young

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ill use it

fair gull
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oh shit

reef patrol
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Cheats and looks up age

fair gull
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hes serious

pale sigil
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im 23

latent mural
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You got a loicense for that playmobile knoife?

fair gull
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callum u misstyped

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13

reef patrol
pale sigil
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you mistyped 9

fair gull
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i know u wish u were 23 so u dont need mommy for everything

pale sigil
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mate

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i pay her so much upkeep

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she best be giving me lifts to post office

fair gull
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"mate" as if we are mates mate

latent mural
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lol

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I actually payed a lot of upkeep too

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now I moved out

reef patrol
fair gull
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i pay 450 a month

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my mom doesnt give me shit

pale sigil
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i hate it, everyone i know doesn't or pays next to nothing

latent mural
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and haven't left my apartment for a week

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I paid 300€

pale sigil
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and i still pay for the internet and usually electric

fair gull
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same callum

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my employer was like "ure kidding right? 450 for upkeep?"

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he was like "i only took 50 from my kids"

latent mural
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now I pay 370€ a month with everything included

pale sigil
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i would move out but i have no stable income

latent mural
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rip

fair gull
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i might move out in a few months

pale sigil
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Im saving up, once i start working after uni im going to move out maybe 6 -12 months in

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What really makes me sad is if i never fucked up with my finances

latent mural
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if you are able to use simple programms and are capable to communicate when something breaks what broke you are hired

pale sigil
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i could have left uni with 23k

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i shit you not

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23000 british rubles

latent mural
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I'll likely leave uni with exactly 0 because I spend my money way too fast

fair gull
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i almost read "fucked up with my fiances" and was like "dude u are 23 and had multiple fiances wot?"

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then i realised u typed finances

latent mural
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just get a a0 printer

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and start printing calenders

fair gull
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psure at that point its called a plotter

latent mural
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one calender costs you about 0.13€

spare wave
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Any fields you are really good in? Tutoring.

latent mural
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and you sell it for 0.30€

zenith sonnet
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Damn it, looks like a missed a nice discussion about mice ^^

latent mural
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lol

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what do you use mainly?

pale sigil
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Anyone have any old spare parts, cpu, ram mobo etc

spare wave
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Well, I've got a CPU

latent mural
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I have a 750D case

pale sigil
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been trying to build a small server for nearly a year now, i cant afford to just buy brand new hardware etc

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so its been a struggle.

fallow bison
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stock amd coolers for days

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o

pale sigil
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i have been trying to find a dell optiplex too

fallow bison
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then, no

latent mural
pale sigil
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i live in the uk πŸ˜„

latent mural
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you can get servers and hardware for very little there

pale sigil
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the issue with these sites is they over charge

fallow bison
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We have those at our school callum, what do you want to use them for?

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i dont reccomend them

latent mural
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they have xeons for cents

pale sigil
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They are fine for 4th gen onwards

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I use a NAS but there are certain things that fustrate me i cant do on it

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so i want to build a micro system and have full linux running

fallow bison
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In summer we had to place fans next to them to not let them overheat and shutdown though

pale sigil
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instread of being crippled from time to time

fallow bison
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Linux might be fine

pale sigil
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my uni uses them except atm they are 7700s or 8700s

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with 32gb ram and 980s still

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xD

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And im some classes with corsair k75s

fallow bison
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Jeez no we got the cheapo ones lol

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integrated graphics😎

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Lol really

pale sigil
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In networking rooms we use a lot of vms

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like 5 at a time

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Have multiple server racks etc also

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for lab work

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Which btw im still yet to experience

fallow bison
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i think our server might run off of a forking raspi

pale sigil
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they just like to waste money

fallow bison
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it is SO slow

pale sigil
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they were binning 6700s the other week

spare wave
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Don't insult my Raspi cluster.

pale sigil
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i asked can i buy one for my dissertation work

fallow bison
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Damn you have a cluster

pale sigil
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they said no 😦

fallow bison
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Oof

spare wave
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Foo

pale sigil
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they outsource it

fallow bison
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The clusters seem cool

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but

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not worth it tbh

pale sigil
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i want a pi for kodiu

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fucking sick of this trash firestick

fallow bison
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or is it really that much faster?

pale sigil
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give me one

spare wave
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They are like 20 bucks, depending on the model

pale sigil
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i dont have 20 bucks for kodi πŸ˜„

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its a shitty situation

spare wave
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You can get a 3+ B nowadays for that O.O

fallow bison
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Yeah well, i use one raspi just to fuck around with some software for my school, but it is waaaay to slow to even handle greenfoot

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Tbh dont use a raspi as firestick

pale sigil
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124 quid with a code

fallow bison
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Decoding is unreliable

pale sigil
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not that bad

fallow bison
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Im pretty sure we have those

pale sigil
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anything is better than firestick

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my firestick takes 10 min just to start watching something

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crashes all the time

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and kodi is dogshit slow

fallow bison
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00f

pale sigil
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audio always cuts off etc

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i have the first gen :/

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the infamous first gen

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mine cost 10 quid

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xd

fallow bison
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Heh callum that pc goes for 86 pounds with 1 ssd + wireless

pale sigil
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thats why i got mine

fallow bison
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Das pritty good

pale sigil
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where?

fallow bison
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oh wait

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lol

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extras

pale sigil
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pleb

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xD

fallow bison
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SHHHH

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I didnt say that

spare wave
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  1. The fucks a firestick
fallow bison
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like a bad chomecast

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and chromecast already is awful

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like awful

pale sigil
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its not even a chromecast

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like i mean

fallow bison
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issa stick

pale sigil
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its just so bad

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its ui is garbage

spare wave
pale sigil
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chromcast is just press a button on hte app and it works instantly

fallow bison
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a usb stick

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With hardware encryption i think

pale sigil
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but

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chromecast just works

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no hassle

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no shitty gui

fallow bison
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Welllllll

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thats where youre wrong

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mine takes about 15 min to start

pale sigil
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lol wut

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mine is off when my tv is off

fallow bison
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and then ~5 min to connect to wifi, if it doesnt i have to reset it

spare wave
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Ye it is, but

pale sigil
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when i turn my tv on it takes like 15 seconds top

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to start using

spare wave
fallow bison
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Jezus i wish

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oh yeah much cheaper

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ill get that one

spare wave
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Youll save 50 dollars

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Of ~1000

spare wave
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But seriously, how long can it take to drive from Jubilee to Heathrow? From experience: 30 mins.
Royal Mail: 2 days.

fallow bison
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21.50

spare wave
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But thats not this ironkey thing

fallow bison
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ehh well if you go around the world a few weeks

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ironkey is bullshit

spare wave
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(IMO RSA is safe enough)

fallow bison
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get a sandisk stick and use their encrypted vault

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if you need it

pale sigil
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what are the chances of rma xD

spare wave
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I just googled firestick, and the ironkey thing came up

fallow bison
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1pound lol

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That aint it laser

pale sigil
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its a bid ofc it staets at 1 quid

spare wave
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Very high

fallow bison
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Its that amazon fire thing

pale sigil
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my friend goes there all the time and rmas stuff

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he personally got a 1tb 850 evo for 15 quid

fallow bison
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yes

spare wave
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I know, but I just wondered why it is so expensive

pale sigil
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rmad it xD

fallow bison
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what the

spare wave
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It would still look cool to just have sitting around .-.

fallow bison
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my ssd total is like 180 now and i have 750 gb

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but thats because its not 1 disk

spare wave
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you can get 800 for 120, by buying 4*200

fallow bison
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Yeah well m.2 cuts 2/3 of my budget

spare wave
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oh no wait, actually more.

fallow bison
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and 2*250 in raid

spare wave
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960

fallow bison
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thing is

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i dont have any more sata connections

spare wave
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I don't really need the SSD speed, and am mostly satisfied with my 2*6 HDD

latent mural
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rip

fallow bison
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my total hdd space is 25tb

pale sigil
spare wave
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Ah yes, the storage creep.

latent mural
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want one?

pale sigil
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corsair deffo rma without proof of pruchase most of the time

latent mural
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actualyl have one flying around

fallow bison
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i have 1.2 tb left

latent mural
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somehow got two when buying one

spare wave
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I will now make pancakes and then go to bed. So gn8 to you all o/

fallow bison
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So will i

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but - the pancake part

latent mural
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I already ate

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so no pancakes for me

fallow bison
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so gn all o/

latent mural
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gn

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i gotta go to sleep to scream at the mailman tomorrow when he tries to not deliver my EC1-B for the second time

zenith sonnet
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I would like pancankes

zenith sonnet
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Wife made pancakes

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t'was awesome

timid chasm
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Keeper!

karmic grail
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@pale sigil buy some dead gpu's and send one to me 😩 i wanna put one ontop of my pc

fallow bison
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nono dont put a gpu on ur pc

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Inwin A1 is a beauty on its own

karmic grail
karmic grail
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Vertical mount in A1 would be nice

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Though it would literally overheat like shit

fallow bison
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your glass would melt

reef patrol
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Hue

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Huehue

karmic grail
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hueheueh

It almost actually looks real

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Post this on r/sffpc lmao
Vertical 2080ti mounted in Inwin A1

reef patrol
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Thermaltake makes a ton of variants on it.

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Expect to spend money on canned air - And no pets or kids πŸ˜„

fallow bison
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Yeah no thanks

karmic grail
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I'm starting to think I should of gotten a H200 case from nzxt

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240rad support πŸ™ƒ

reef patrol
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An mITX in name only πŸ˜„

karmic grail
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true...

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I do love the A1 alot more tho

zenith sonnet
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New news say Navi will be later than expected, potentially Q4

fallow bison
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I'm really happy with my corsair crystal 280 thingy

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Matches my setup really well

zenith sonnet
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Might wanna buy a new case this summer, when I do an base upgrade

fallow bison
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I like your power switch

zenith sonnet
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Hmm,
Wonder if I can find a better vBios for my card

main trellis
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Guys i need help

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Idk what I have done but my Mainboard doesn't boot into bios

latent mural
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rip

zenith sonnet
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Remove power, drain current off the board, then perform a BIOS reset

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Also make sure your PSU still works

main trellis
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Update it booting

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Automatic repair constantly

zenith sonnet
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Automatic repair is Windows, that's after the Bios?

main trellis
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Yes

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I know

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Just reinstalled Windows should work now

plush summit
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@karmic grail that thing is a paperweight without any rtx titles

latent mural
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4 hours of messing with 5ghz wifi

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i learned a lot

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i also learned to just pull an ethernet cable next time

spare wave
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In my experience 5G is just 2.4 with less reach.

latent mural
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it's supposed to go to 800mpbs but my phone dropped support altogether due to EU law, my router doesn't support it; i broke my hostednetwork driver and the windows 10 wireless hotspot function wont allow me to change the channel

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so it's stuck inside 2.4ghz channels

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but in theory it's supposed to be much better

chrome estuary
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glorious 9mbps

sick creek
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5ghz is higher bandwidth (because of the tighter waves, more info can be sent) but more susceptible to interference and objects blocking the signal, etc because it cant bounce as far

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Its why i have 1 AP on each floor of my house

plush summit
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its good to have

reef patrol
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No wires

plush summit
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sure?

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lifi could be a thing soon

sick creek
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I use ethernet for almost everything

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I wired up every room in my house

plush summit
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true

sick creek
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?

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I dont use reddit

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Sorry :/

plush summit
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interesting

sick creek
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Ah

plush summit
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how much did that cost

sick creek
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Umm

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99 for the router, 90 for each AP (3 of them), 80-100 for the switch, 100+ for the box of cat6, another 30 for the short premade cables, 79 for that white box which is basically a management server for the wifi

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Cant remember how much the power strip and rack mount were

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Probably another 100 or so for everything

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Ish? Yeah

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I didnt buy it all at once

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And i wired up 2 houses with one box of cat6

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And i still have prob 200ft or so left

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Probably wasted around 60 feet from excess in the pulls

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Most rooms have 2 ports, some only have one because of the nightmare getting the cables to them

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Yea of course

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I do that for rooms with lots of devices

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It was ridiculous getting wires across the ceiling and then down to the wall opposite of the router

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I had to cut open the wall in the room above

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Drill thru the top plate, then thru the cavity and through the next set of boards

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And push the pull string through

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I had a fiber optic camera, without it i never would have been able to do it

fair gull
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still have 2 24port switches laying round

zenith sonnet
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Anyone know a good router that can sustain 400 Mbps with SQM enabled?

fair gull
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square meters?

zenith sonnet
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Smart Queue Management

fair gull
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oh

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tbh never heard of such a setting in routers

zenith sonnet
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Typical recommendation is the Ubiquiti ER-X

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But its CPU can only handle 100-120 Mbps

latent mural
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This concludes our testing protocol.
PC VR>5ghzwifi>phone
works almost ok

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hopefully something I can provide as a taste test for ones wishing to leave off to apple

crude cipher
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@fallow bison what is in that build that the retail value is set at $6500 with 8GB of RAM lul

fallow bison
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4*8

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@4800

crude cipher
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Ah

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That makes more sense

zenith sonnet
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At what timing would the CPU even be able to handle that RAM speed?

latent mural
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unsubstantiated rumours say that navi is comming in october or later

zenith sonnet
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Yeah

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Well, how long ago was Polaris? 4 years now?

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3?

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They've taken their sweet time designing this

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Let's hope it impresses for once

zenith sonnet
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I need a new mosuepad

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My Shidenkai feels worn

latent mural
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currently looking for one too

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shidenkai is definetley on the list for me

zenith sonnet
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It's 5-8 years old now

latent mural
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too small

plush summit
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good god

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what is that

latent mural
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a wrist wrest mousepad

zenith sonnet
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Apparently Artisan released a new RM series in December

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But the site seems broken for me

latent mural
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artisan wanted to release the RM series

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they didn't though

zenith sonnet
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Their Website says released 12/2018

latent mural
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ik

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no

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release 12/2018

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btw

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you are also german?

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how much is import?

zenith sonnet
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Last time I ordered, customs fee was 19%

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So price of pad + 19% + shipping

latent mural
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that's reasonable

zenith sonnet
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RM series is a budget series?

latent mural
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idk

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couldn't find any info on it

zenith sonnet
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Found that on reddit

latent mural
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ok?

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held back because I couldn't find out what the RM series will be

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and my current mousepad is still fine

zenith sonnet
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Not sure why, maybe it's my adblocker
But their website does not seem to work right

latent mural
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it's always kind of weird

zenith sonnet
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Now it works

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...

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Do I want another Shidenkai or a different surface?

latent mural
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idk

zenith sonnet
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They also used to have a Shiden a few back

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It was even smoother than the Shidenkai

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And I hated the Raiden. Felt like it was "gripping" my mouse

wet tide
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hey, so quick question, when I turn on tachyon mode, the RGB doesn't turn off with my twoting, did they fix the need to turn off RGB in tachyon mode with the twoting?

pale sigil
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rgb effects turn off

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not rgb

ashen spindle
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hey, anyone around to help me find a bug/issue? If so try to set up a hotkey for discord that is ALT + F9 (or any F key above F5)

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and tell me if it worked or not

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for some reason it only works with F2,F3,F4 for me

wet tide
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so GTA doesn't want to pick up the analog

ashen spindle
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gta v is quite annoying, you can use it to drive but only if you dont move your mouse while doing that, and you need to set it back to digital when you exit the car and walk, if you want to move with wasd around

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but it does work absolutely fine for driving

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or does it not work even when not moving/clicking with your mouse?

wet tide
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hang on

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so turning works with my mouse but the actual "driving" part does not

ashen spindle
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ye because while you move your mouse, gta thinks your at a pc and ignore controller input, so you basically need to re-press your pedal key everytime it switches

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aka it doesnt really work with a mouse

wet tide
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no i cant get the car to drive at all in analog

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regardless if i use mouse

ashen spindle
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do you have your analog profile set up correctly?

wet tide
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I thought

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I bound w and s to triggers bc thats how you drive in gta

ashen spindle
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ye, w as right trigger I think it was

wet tide
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YEA

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ack cap lock

ashen spindle
wet tide
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yes axis 1

ashen spindle
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hm should be working then

wet tide
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? now it is lol

ashen spindle
wet tide
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how can I import a keyboard profile with the new wootility?

ashen spindle
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idk havent used it yet

fallow bison
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I think it isn't yet patched, will be soon, though

zenith sonnet
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This is pissing me off
580, Vega 64, or Radeon VII
Nothing is a good choice, but neither is keeping 290X until Arcturus arrives

latent mural
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time to buy an rtx

fair gull
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^

zenith sonnet
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Heh, 2080 is only marginally better price/performance than the VII
Plus, I'd have to GSync displays, so not really an option

fair gull
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u dont have to gsync display

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the new drivers also support freesync

zenith sonnet
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For the handful of displays it works with (mine isn't among them), performance is magically a lot worse than Freesync

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'a lot' being one frame more delay

fair gull
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i mean.... i dont use freesync/gsync at all

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cause i dont get the point

latent mural
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doesn't care about tearing at all

fair gull
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i didnt get tearing yet

zenith sonnet
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It's tearfree, lowest latency possible gaming

latent mural
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well tear-not-free is even lower latency

zenith sonnet
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Tearing was rarely an issue for me either

latent mural
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tearing is certainly not worth paying extra for me

zenith sonnet
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But the improvement in latency and smoothness is well worth it

fair gull
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idk i tried out gsync on a few monitors for a customer

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and

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idk

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didnt feel better than my normal screens

latent mural
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latency according to mr. battlenonsence on youtube will always be higher with adaptive sync

zenith sonnet
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Nope, Freesync does not add any latency whatsoever

latent mural
#

and who ever I've asked about the "smoothness", no one could tell me for sure if it's a thing or not with adaptive sync

zenith sonnet
#

Frame delivery is perfectly timed
There will be no dropped frames

latent mural
#

you can just limit your framerate for that

fair gull
#

the question is will u really notice it outside of competetive games

zenith sonnet
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Not everybody will

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I do

fair gull
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ok so its a you problem

zenith sonnet
#

I'm extremely sensitive to latency, I notice a difference between 60 and 144Hz, or 20ms more button to photon delay quite easily

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To the point where under some circumstances, playing a game in Borderless window instead of Exclusive Fullscreen can give me migraines

latent mural
#

60 to 144 would be hard not to notice :p.. unless you compare to screens that blur a bunch

fair gull
#

^

latent mural
#

Xenoa that just sounds like your experiencing strobbing at 60hz

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amusingly you can 1. live with that 2. get a shitty motion blurry screen 3. ramp up to 144hz

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learned to live with it

zenith sonnet
#

This is on the same display, Freesync enabled

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πŸ€”

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Also it's a 'flicker-free' backlight

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It can do backlight strobing at 60, 100, 120, 144 Hz, but I never used it because it disables Freesync, which is clearly superior

latent mural
#

the frame rate itself can cause strobing

fickle ore
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freesync doesnt need 1 frame buffer to work?

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O.o

zenith sonnet
#

Nope

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Image goes straight to the monitor

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And the monitor refreshes immediately when receiving an image

fickle ore
#

that's nice. Wasn't interested in in Gsync cause it adds 1 frame I think

zenith sonnet
#

G-Sync compatible mode (Software GSync) adds a frame

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Hardware GSync also has the same low latency

fickle ore
#

I think there's something happening because most test i've seen at the same refresh rate, the average latency with gsync is still a couple milliseconds more than vsync off

zenith sonnet
#

There's a few variables

fair gull
#

ya dont use 30km of display cable

zenith sonnet
#

Lol, that too

fickle ore
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...

zenith sonnet
#

Also, running at 300 FPS internally or using an ingame limiter has different effects than using RTSS to stay within adaptive sync range

fair gull
#

easy fix get a shit gpu and run at 30fps

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no limiter needed

fickle ore
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meeh, ill just keep using vsync off, or did they increase freesync to 240hz?

zenith sonnet
#

Freesync itself has no limit, I think

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It all depends on what the display and GPU can handle

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And the cable..

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Anyway, best is always Vsync off, and using the best available limiter to stay within Sync range

fair gull
#

the standard has a supported range

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which prob most monitors/cables dont exceed

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its like 10-240hz or so

pale sigil
#

TIL i learned when accessing your ipad or iphone its only readable

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not writable

fallow bison
#

@proud nacelle you didnt have a case, did you?

reef patrol
main trellis
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Wiped my whole pc wasted

#

F

zenith sonnet
#

Might take a few minutes

latent mural
#

Ordered the same rtx 2070 from another shop, will pick it up tomorrow
includes anthem or battlefield V

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50 euro more :/

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but at least it's not "maybe in 2 weeks"

karmic grail
latent mural
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oh lian li made it

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yeah, they'd do that

karmic grail
#

sadly it only takes 200mm long GPU's

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so my Aorus 1070 is outta the question

latent mural
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just saw a hole in it

karmic grail
#

boi

latent mural
#

honestly, i really want a case where the gpu is placed as if hotswappable

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and the cooler poking out as well

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basically make it look like a tube amplifier

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you mean a testbench?

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ahh

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a testbench with one of these

karmic grail
#

test bench with a cover

latent mural
#

pretty much, but prettier looking

karmic grail
#

get a minitx case (thats slim)

#

cut holes where the gpu and cpu cooler would go

latent mural
#

easier to just make you own

#

so similar to the cheapest case that linus once had

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and your own would be cheaper and far far sturdier

#

that case was like 10€

#

havent seen it

karmic grail
latent mural
#

that's not a case

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that's 4 5mm bolts

#

it is a case

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well it's not pretty

#

believe me

#

there is a case somewhere in that

#

well I jsut meant the basic idea

karmic grail
#

there WAS a case in there

latent mural
#

well my basic idea is the picture i posted

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I'd liek to see how my O11 dynamic would look if it was in a normal formfactor

karmic grail
#

011 dynamic itx version

latent mural
#

that pretty much exists

karmic grail
latent mural
#

the O11 only really is special because of the price

karmic grail
#

and the view

latent mural
#

there is this

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no really

#

lian li had cases like this for years

karmic grail
#

OOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMGGGGGGGGG

latent mural
#

but they are expensive af because they ar emade out of aluminum

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the dynamic isn't

karmic grail
#

but there isnt that fan area

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in the front of the case

latent mural
#

not originally

#

they also have the pc 05

karmic grail
#

but its hard to find lian li cases in australia

latent mural
#

and the pc 07

karmic grail
#

unless its very common ones (dynamic)

latent mural
#

which takes full size atx

#

and has 4 pcie slots

karmic grail
#

the pcq38 looks alot like a A1

latent mural
#

they also are so expsnisve

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you can easily get them in germany thanks t ocaseking

#

but they really aren't cheap

reef patrol
#

The Dynamic is the first of their cases with that silhouette and side fan moibts, that I've seen.

latent mural
#

I think the original O11 had an Asus version that was similar

#

but bigger and much more expenisve

#

I think like 3 times the price of the o11 dynamic

#

yea

karmic grail
#

imagine pc011 shrunk down just a mit

#

mATX or itx would be nice

latent mural
#

would basically be an h200 but with a glass fron panel

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wil llikely be released by nzxt in the next 2 years

karmic grail
#

but it needs to retain that side mounted fan area

latent mural
#

or there will be anotehr even more stupid trend in the industry

#

in matx it could work

#

in itx you would only get a single slot

karmic grail
#

TECHNICALLY... the A1 with a clear front would be exactly a 011 itx

#

but the PSU is mounted upfront

latent mural
#

tbh I don't think inwin is at the level of quality of lian li

karmic grail
#

sadly yes

latent mural
#

inwin is extremely good

#

but lianli is god tier

karmic grail
#

but its just a notch under lianli

latent mural
#

I'm happy that they noticed that they could half the orice by just using steel instead of aluminum

karmic grail
#

though my inwin a1 is stupid heavy

latent mural
#

well

#

it's packed

karmic grail
#

oh its aluminium

latent mural
#

and you have an aio now

karmic grail
#

'The modern Scandinavian style design is complemented with tempered glass and brushed aluminium.' - A1 front page

latent mural
#

6KG according to caseking

karmic grail
#

ye

latent mural
#

my o11 is 10.1

#

with steel

karmic grail
#

13.2lbs

latent mural
#

and 2 gigantic glass panels

karmic grail
#

inwin a1 thicc boi

latent mural
#

the o11 is thick

#

but you can't even put a hyper 212 in it

#

would be the biggest improvement if they'd ever make a normal tower version

karmic grail
#

wot you cant put a 212 in it?

#

so its even slimmer than my a1

latent mural
#

it's not that slim

#

but the back is thickened so it can fit a normal psu

karmic grail
#

ah

latent mural
#

especially bad for the o11 air

#

since it is mostly the same tooling

reef patrol
#

Both cases are designed for watercooling honestly.

latent mural
#

you should do watercooling for both

#

the o11 air would be an extremely good air cooling performer if it could fit a decently sized cooler

#

a cryorig h7 would fit

#

and a noctua nc 14 s

#

friend of mine has a bequiet vertical cooler in his

#

performs pretty well

karmic grail
#

I was originally gonna buy a dark Rock pro4 for the Inwin a1

#

But then I found the AIO I had in HK which was cheap

latent mural
#

btw

#

is it an asetek cooler?

karmic grail
#

yes I think

#

Emphasise on I think cause I can't find any info on the cooler

latent mural
#

you usually can't

karmic grail
#

What would I look for for if it's a asetek cooler

#

Any distinct things that stand out

latent mural
#

pretty much only the mounting mechanism

#

which can be easily cloned

karmic grail
#

Asetek cooler is the one you twist on right?

latent mural
#

?

#

no

#

you basically have teeth on the block

karmic grail
#

ah no it isnt

latent mural
#

and then a bracket which goes in the teeth and presses the pump on the cpu

#

without bracket

karmic grail
#

no my one has a piece that slides out for Intel/amd bracket

#

I'll get a pic of it later

latent mural
#

ok?

karmic grail
#

simply saying it doesn't have teeth on the block

#

It's just 4 screws to mount it

spare wave
#

I think you all ignore the best case

#

The packaging of your motherboard.

latent mural
#

my brotehr legit had a high end system laying on his windows becasue he couldn't bother buying a case

karmic grail
#

I never used the box to build my pc

#

😐

latent mural
#

?

karmic grail
#

just straight into the case

latent mural
#

ahh

#

you meant that

#

I think he meant to use the box as a more permanent solution

karmic grail
#

ah

latent mural
#

by trying to find waht I searcehd I also found the worst case of them all

karmic grail
#

To be fair I wouldn't mind a box as a case

#

Airflow is extremely good blobhyperthinkfast

#

I just found out the back of my case is cooler than the front

latent mural
#

looks like they just left half of the sides open

#

reminds me of the worst coller that I have ever seen

#

lemme look if I can fidn it once again

karmic grail
#

Shit I didn't pick up the 50c athlon from a local second hand shop

latent mural
#

rip

karmic grail
#

I'll go check tomorrow and see if it's there

#

The guy selling would probably be like what are you doing buying this

timid chasm
#

I find it so weird that the CEOs of AMD and Nvidia are related lol. I wonder what family gatherings are like

fair gull
#

nvidia ceo gets praised while the parents are angry that amd ceo didnt become a doctor

#

basically liek any other asian family gathering

timid chasm
#

she is a Dr though

#

just not a physician

fair gull
#

see

#

they will find snth to pick on

timid chasm
#

being a physician is hugely overrated though

fair gull
#

being an it technician is aswell

timid chasm
#

that's not quite the same as degrees in electrical engineering though

spare wave
#

It really is not though, when you look at your potential income.

latent mural
#

I'm sure the income of the AMD ceo position is higher than the one of a physician

timid chasm
#

If you're talking about people that popular it depends. Some doctor with a tv show makes way more than an average physician

latent mural
#

but more than teh AMD CEO?

timid chasm
#

take a look at Dr Oz. As crazy as he is he makes millions

#

He specifically may not make more than her but he's definitely up there and not even the richest of physicians

fair gull
#

look at dr. phil man

#

he got a ranch full of children

timid chasm
#

Both are quacks too

zenith sonnet
#

From Wikipedia
He is said to be a cousin of AMD CEO Lisa Su,[17][18] but this has been dismissed by her.[19]

#

Lol

#

Anyway, she's hailed as one of the best CEOs in the tech world right now

#

And you can see the results

latent mural
#

ther are even rumors of intel to buy out AMD jsut to get her as the CEO

timid chasm
#

Oh she's definitely killing it

zenith sonnet
#

It's always good to have an engineer at the top, not a politician

#

I wonder if I should go custom water loop for my next build

fickle ore
#

Do something cooler, Ionic Winds perhaps?

zenith sonnet
#

Why though?

fickle ore
#

why watercool?

zenith sonnet
#

Chance to reach a higher OC

#

Also it sounds like an interesting project

#

And less noise under load

fickle ore
#

still uses a fan πŸ˜›

zenith sonnet
#

Of course it does

#

It also louder when idle

#

Usually.

fickle ore
#

yea well, you asked for an opinion. Custom watercool isn't something I would do personally due to the fan + noise + hassle of water inside my pc

#

I would personally look for alternate ways to cool

zenith sonnet
#

Yeah, I'm not too sure myself

#

With air cooling, you have a lot less performance, it's just unavoidable

#

But water is expensive and a hassle

pale sigil
#

Only reason I haven't bothered

#

To expensive

#

Isn't a great payoff

#

I mean ye it's cool but screw spending a fortune for a little less temp

zenith sonnet
#

I would guess 300-400€ for high quality components, GPU and CPU loop

#

But while we're at it, why not watercool the RAM and Board? πŸ™ƒ

reef patrol
zenith sonnet
#

Well, side effect, though: Less heat in the case means cooler RAM and Board by default

latent mural
#

bad side effect

#

less airflow means hotter ram and motherboard

#

especially vrm cooling suffers from that

zenith sonnet
#

If you don't have airflow any more, you're doing it wrong

pale sigil
#

Good side effect

#

Who cares

latent mural
#

and 300€ to 400€ is a pretty low estimate, especially for cpu and gpu

pale sigil
#

As long as you don't go above 50c we all cozy

zenith sonnet
#

But a single case fan is more than enough to keep the inside of the case fairly cool

latent mural
#

usually yes

zenith sonnet
#

When you don't have a 300W GPU and 150W CPU venting into it

latent mural
#

if you OC your VRM can get pretty toasty

#

especially the new intel CPU proved that

zenith sonnet
#

I'm waiting on the 3700X or 3800X, whichever has the higher base clocks

latent mural
#

and even a fan pointing directly t it wasn't enough usually

#

tbh

#

I don't think Ryzen 2 will OC well

#

or matisse whatever you want t ocall it

zenith sonnet
#

Lol, people bashed the FX95xx something with 220W TPD, but the new i9's pull just as much

latent mural
#

AMD showed in the last few years that they get every last bit of performance out of their parts

#

ye

#

with the difference that the 9900k is just slightly faster

#

just barely

#

and the FX95xx were all the same 8350 but OCed some more

#

and the z390 boards are pretty well built

#

especially the ones from gigabyte

zenith sonnet
#

Also need to decide on a case

#

And buy everything double

latent mural
#

o11 dynamic

zenith sonnet
#

Being married has its perks (like a 4000€ tax return), but you're immediately gonna spend that on double purchases, lol

karmic grail
#

Inwin A1

zenith sonnet
#

Too small

karmic grail
#

damn

#

Preferred size : matx?

reef patrol
#

H500?

karmic grail
#

Inwin 301 or whatever its call

#

Yea 301

zenith sonnet
#

ATX

#

Although I don't mind larger cases

#

The O11 looks good and is surprisingly reasonably priced

#

130€, I would expected twice that

reef patrol
#

Keep in mind it is a heavy boi.,

zenith sonnet
#

Anything less than 40Kg is alright

#

I'm not some middle aged woman demanding not having to lift more than 8Kg

#

πŸ€”

reef patrol
zenith sonnet
#

Doesn't come with case fans

#

I like that

#

Means I don't have to spend 15€ more for some crap fans I'd replace anyway

karmic grail
#

011 is surprisingly lighter than A1 @reef patrol

reef patrol
#

No πŸ˜„

#

Oh god no haha

zenith sonnet
#

Nope

#

The A1 seems to be 3-4Kg lighter

latent mural
#

the o11 dynamic almost weighs double

zenith sonnet
#

6Kg vs 10.1Kg

latent mural
#

don't choose the O11 if you want to do any amount of air cooling though

#

except when you want to get a vertical cooler

reef patrol
#

AIO and Loops only pretty much yeah.

latent mural
#

currently have a nzxt x72 360mm aio in mine

#

can't reccomend it though

#

temps are great

#

everything else isn't

zenith sonnet
#

Used to have a Fraktal Design Kelvin S24

latent mural
#

looks are ruined by bad rgb and CAM is the worst piece of software that survived for more than a monthj on my pc

zenith sonnet
#

Until the insides corroded

#

Lol

latent mural
#

I didn't take the corsair one because I though it looked cheap

#

the NZXT has only 7 color rgb in segments though

karmic grail
#

Wait oh the 011 dynamic

reef patrol
karmic grail
#

Thinking of the wrong case 🀦

latent mural
#

which one did you think of?

karmic grail
#

Can recommend fractal cases tho

latent mural
#

haven't worked too much with them personally

karmic grail
#

Have seen many builds in it (also many good reviews and stuff)

#

I wanted a fractal ITX case but there wasn't any that I liked

#

Now they have that new ITX one and I really want it

zenith sonnet
#

Currently have a Corsair 760T

#

It's ok

karmic grail
#

at least you have front fans

zenith sonnet
#

Plenty of space to work with, good cable management

karmic grail
#

A1 struggles with fan setup and plenty of space

#

Though cable management is good

zenith sonnet
#

It's a full tower though

karmic grail
#

true

#

ITX has its compromises

zenith sonnet
#

It's huge

karmic grail
#

I like big towers but I don't like how easy it is to work in one

reef patrol
#

Prepare to buy a cable splitter and and a cable extender for the A1 though...

zenith sonnet
#

Can put an NH-D15 in there and still have about 3cm of headroom

latent mural
#

I LIKE BIG TOWERS AND I CANNOT LIE

karmic grail
#

List of extenders I bought for A1:
1 to 5 4 pin fan splitter
HDD female plug to molex

latent mural
#

I have ym 750D still in my old room

#

also pretty big

karmic grail
#

the fking A1 doesn't have molex connectors

latent mural
#

don't like acrylic panels though

#

?

reef patrol
#

Who needs molex though? πŸ˜›

latent mural
#

that'S a good thing though

zenith sonnet
#

The doors are crap

#

Lol

latent mural
#

molex is the worst

karmic grail
#

The shitty fan controller I had needed a molex plug

#

The first week of me using the case I had no fans

latent mural
#

you don't need extra cables for a modular psu

karmic grail
reef patrol
#

Let me rephrase - Who needs a fan controller for an A1? Does your motherboard not have fan headers? πŸ˜„

latent mural
#

and the molex plugs can't killy our psu becasue they hit the case wall in the worst way

karmic grail
#

yes motherboard has fan headers
no it doesn't have enough

latent mural
#

for the 12 fans he put in there

#

wtf

reef patrol
#

πŸ˜„

latent mural
#

how many fans do you have

karmic grail
#

I have 4 fans

latent mural
#

rip motherboard

karmic grail
#

2 4 pins on motherboard

zenith sonnet
#

I have 3

karmic grail
#

1 used up by AIO

reef patrol
#

Fan splitters mate

zenith sonnet
#

It's plenty

karmic grail
latent mural
#

ju8st use fan splitters

#

you can legit put all 4 fans on one conector without any trouble

reef patrol
#

Well not the pump, but the fans sure

karmic grail
#

I used a 1 to 5 fan splitter
That works

#

The pump has the CPU_FAN1 plug

#

Splitter has the CPU_FAN2 plug

reef patrol
#

I hope you set CPU1 to a static speed πŸ˜„

karmic grail
#

Max rpm

#

My motherboard says the pump is at 2300ish rpm

latent mural
#

ah, kk

karmic grail
#

which I'm not sure if it's correct or not

latent mural
#

should be half of that

#

at least that's how it usualyl works

#

which is a pretty realistic value

karmic grail
#

might be a mobo glitch then

latent mural
#

no

zenith sonnet
#

HF-14's do a pretty good

latent mural
#

it has to do with how the pumps give out the pwm signal

#

tbh

#

I think the HF14 don't do enough static pressure for an itx case to perform well

karmic grail
#

might check up on it then 😱

latent mural
#

nah, it's normal don't worry about it

zenith sonnet
#

Yeah

#

They're a low pressure high flow design

latent mural
#

few motherboards have a "pump mode"

zenith sonnet
#

FD do have high pressure fans as well

latent mural
#

best fan would definetley be teh NF-A12X25

karmic grail
#

πŸ€”

latent mural
#

even though it is 120mm

#

it's normal

karmic grail
#

phew

zenith sonnet
#

I don't need static pressure

latent mural
#

the NF-A12x25 actualyl does both better than most fans

#

and is quieter than most fans

zenith sonnet
#

This case has an 'open top'

latent mural
#

it just is THE best

karmic grail
#

I wish I could afford A12x25 but the brown puts me off

latent mural
#

yeaa

#

still waiting for a chromax version

karmic grail
#

If noctua could just make them black it would dominate the fan market

reef patrol
#

They uh did

latent mural
#

the price is also rather high

#

not the NF-A12x25

#

at least not yet

reef patrol
latent mural
#

they did it only with all prior fans

karmic grail
#

I still can't find out the perfect fan placement for the A1

latent mural
#

and instead of releasing the 140mm model at the same tiem as the 120mm model tehy isntead released a bracket to mount the 120mm fans to 140mm rads

#

because it still performs better than those apparently

karmic grail
#

yes
And no it hasn't died

latent mural
#

lol

karmic grail
#

6months running strong

latent mural
#

and a laptop firecuda

zenith sonnet
#

I have all case fans sucking air in, lol

latent mural
#

you should at least point one out

zenith sonnet
#

Nah, that makes airflow weird

#

In this case

latent mural
#

oh

#

and just pumping air in doesn't?

karmic grail
zenith sonnet
latent mural
#

wait

#

the aio pumps air in?

#

wtf

zenith sonnet
#

I have the CPU fan mouted vertically

karmic grail
#

yes cause it really doesn't have another air source for fresh air

fair gull
#

@sacred smelt the 120s die way way quicker than the 240 or 480

latent mural
#

what about the back one

#

why can't that one push air out?

karmic grail
#

whaddya mean

#

The one that's exhausting rn?

latent mural
#

the one behind the gpu

#

oh

#

so you have an exhaust fan

karmic grail
#

yes

latent mural
#

ah, ok

karmic grail
#

The PSU is mounted so it sucks air in

#

So I just did a flipped version of how usually airflow works in a normal ATX case

latent mural
#

btw

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wasn't there a wooden version of the A1?

reef patrol
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Prototype shown off, never produced 😦

karmic grail
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yes the first concept

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was a shame but probably the wood was a expensive bit

fair gull
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make ur own case

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easy

latent mural
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rip

reef patrol
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I believe that was their reasoning, yes. The A1 is already a bit pricy

karmic grail
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150aud 😞

zenith sonnet
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Why hasn't anyone ever made a case made out of radiator? πŸ€”