but it'S not really a noteworthy argument
#🔌│tech
latent mural
toxic jolt
tbh I don't think the launch was rushed as much as the devs weren't rushed enough
we STILL only have 2 games that support any 20-series features, and it's been 4 months
ashen spindle
well some parts were more than others
toxic jolt
nvidia has sent developers to the companies in order to help them integrate the features
yet nothing has happened
ashen spindle
also tbf, the windows updated that is needed for DXR having so many issues didn't help either I imagine lmao
toxic jolt
that's kinda what I'm getting at
it's not like the update made much of a difference in the end
since we still had to wait for ff and bfv
but we're seeing a lot of error that nvidia had little to do with
ashen spindle
for games that is, was is put into any creator tools like blender or so? idk how fast it will be implemented in these tools and dont know which media I could even see it on
latent mural
no
blender doesn't support it currently
my friend bought his 2070 specifically because he thought it did
ashen spindle
is there a known date for blender or any similar tool to implement it? Or are they all just "TBA" features?
latent mural
SOON™
random oasis
add in the massive performance hit ray tracing has and that automatically kills all interest in it for me
karmic grail
OOF Radeon 7
16gb hbm2
latent mural
by the time it comes out nvidia will drop their prices by 100
or more likely availability will be ridiculous
doom an gloom
where im at the 16gb will instantly add 100 euro extra in itself though...
i don't know how they keep doing that
a majority of people still only look at gigabytes and price and the chain is profiting
No, i mean retailers know that this is a luxury product and it has a lot of gigabytes so they add an extra 100 euro
oh that's nice
reef patrol
I for one can't wait to review it 😄
latent mural
because the problem here is that a 6gig higher msrp card is always cheaper than a 8 gig lower msrp card
that's what im saying
reef patrol
Ehhh... Not always.
latent mural
here
reef patrol
The 1060 3GB was cheaper than the 4GB 1050TI 😄
latent mural
everywhere east past germany
reef patrol
Hehehe.
reef patrol
I've had so many upgrades in the past two years, I lost count of when to stop 😄
reef patrol
latent mural
you don't go sub nano :c
doom and gloom
Isn't possible unfortunatley
The new memory bandwith of radeon vii is higher btw
and all it aims is to be a 2080
spare wave
picometers?
in a few years we have 900 picometer architecture or something
A silicon atom's Van der Waals radius is 210pm
So technically still possible.
Although at this distance you literally have to pressurise your PCBs
Because otherwise the atoms will just brown away.
ashen spindle
Time to go deeper and step beyond electrons, make logic with quarks inside an atom 
spare wave
Might as well just do waves :P
ashen spindle
chrome estuary
So the sub box is at the local facility and says arrives today but doesn't say out for delivery
random oasis
It'll likely show up tomorrow then
As it's after 9am and nearly all delivery routes start before then
chrome estuary
Actually it says it's out for delivery. So I might be able to set the sub up tonight after work
latent mural
We are really excited to start on the high end with our 7nm Radeon VII […] and you will see the announcements over the course of the year as we refresh across our Radeon program. — Mark Papermaster
refresh
zenith mirage
RX 690
zenith mirage
Might just mean they've overhauling their graphics division
ashen spindle
or this one is the refresh of VEga64 and they'll just bring out a 7nm version of the 56 and then comes NAvi?
latent mural
well how can navi come this year when even more come OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, what's the point
spare wave
Nooooooo stop making improvements.
ashen spindle
uh, well, idk, a 3rd one for lower segments and then navi?
spare wave
I wanted to be done with selecting a new GPU now that my Spreadsheet literally took hours of my live to complete.
latent mural
I think if this was the only one then a navi launch ~even june would make sense as it would not have to be a card for work (not 16 gigs of hbm) but something sensible for strictly games
ashen spindle
hey maybe VII in February, Ryzen3 in June, second VII card somewhere in the year, then Navi in November as something above the V2 cards?
I just want more new stuff man
also lower prices
latent mural
haughty condor
Navi won't turn up until Sony releases the ps5
pale sigil
why mess with something that aint broke https://docs.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-insider/at-home/whats-new-wip-at-home#notepad-updates-build-18298
latent mural
“If you look at the evolution of Ryzen, we’ve always had the advantage of core count,” she said. “Some people may have noticed on the package that there’s some extra room. So, there is some extra room on that package, and you might expect we’ll have more than eight cores."
oh good, at least nothing that there
also, lisa su likes to say "y'know"
wait a minute, she also said this "I didn’t say how many more."
spare wave
I can't wait for better storage solutions.
plush summit
i want to see per core optimization
random oasis
I want to see devs caring about multithreading whatever they reasonably can
plush summit
the main reason why intel is still superior
latent mural
the demo chip has the same amount of cores/threads as the 9900k and delivers really similar performance with less power
latent mural
latent mural
Has anyone with a VR headset here tried vorpX?
pale sigil
Ye
latent mural
is it worth it?
i mean, the whole set up
I'm more interested in a personal 3d gaming screen
than in vr
on a scale of absolutely not and it might
VR currently isn't quite ready yet
at least not what I could test
pale sigil
Here we go again
latent mural
resolution is too low to use it for every game
it is
VR games by themselves can work great
but in general though
but VR monitors don't because the reolution is usually too low
pale sigil
It's not low enough to ruin games
pale sigil
You can updample too
latent mural
but sometimes makes it more inconvenient
pale sigil
Ye sure go with a 4k headset a 1080ti can't run
Stop trash talking something you don't own or have tried once
pale sigil
Have you tried it with super sample on 1.5?
latent mural
I've used it multiple times
no amount of super sampling can really remove the problem though
latent mural
they still have a too low resolution imo, might be different for other users
the VR experience is pretty different for every person
pale sigil
I was exactly like that at first
I moaned etc
But it's nowhere near as bad as people like you say
latent mural
it's not bad
latent mural
if you play a well made game it is often great
pale sigil
I play once or twice a momth
latent mural
that wasn't my problem
pale sigil
I would never get rid of my headet
latent mural
screen simulation is what my problem was
pale sigil
Nor do I regret it
Lol
Because your use a vr headset for that..., even when it becomes perfect why
It's stupid using s desktop In vr
latent mural
I'd personally wait until I can afford a good HMD with a higher resolution and a better gpu if would like to use screen simulation
games itself work grat usually
pale sigil
There won't be one for a while
pale sigil
Oculus revision 2 is coming out this year hopefully
pale sigil
The issue with higher res is it's not the solution
latent mural
not whether vr is worth it...
pale sigil
The solution is eye tracking pixel density
latent mural
vorpx is a virtual screen and it can work great depends heavily on the game though
pale sigil
@latent mural there's a trail
I don't see the point
No Yam he's on about the 3D stuff
Most likely
latent mural
ah
idk, I personally only used vorpx in combination with games
i travel with a mitx case and spend 2 months at home per year, would be nice if i had a portable 3d screen of sufficient size
worked sometimes
ahhh
pale sigil
It's cool but it feels more of a gimick
latent mural
you need the amount of screens you want in vr in physical form though
latent mural
and you basically can't read text until you increase scaling a lot
pale sigil
Though with oculus you can mirror applications onto its own window
latent mural
cant imagine reading text being a big deal in games you'd want 3d in
pale sigil
And you can rest text but need 2 super sample
reef patrol
😄
sick creek
Hahaha #wholesome
pale sigil
Legit just heard my sister try to set an alarm with siri 5 times and when it did she said thank you.....
spare wave
That a problem?
chrome estuary
hey my dudes. I got my sub installed
pale sigil
?
latent mural
his submarine is finally ready
latent mural
happy farting noises
(he got a car subwoofer)
or maybe he was installing a sandwich into his mouth
choose your own adventure
haughty condor
haughty condor
Yeah
toxic jolt
when did you rm everything?
pale sigil
@reef patrol I can't get over how amazing skull canyon is
reef patrol
reef patrol
pale sigil
Buy me one
reef patrol
pale sigil
Once I'm done playing all ps4 games I'm gonna smash the fucker up
latent mural
a good carpenter wouldn't mess with a crt though
pale sigil
^
latent mural
although that doesn't look like a crt
reef patrol
It isn't.
pale sigil
tfw when facebook dont even find you interesting they dont bother storing much data
reef patrol
I don't need it to be authentic. I'd settle for an LCD and the ability to chug a Raspberry Pi inside, or a Mac Mini (like this guy did)
reef patrol
Yes - Yes it would. But I already spent over 300$ on a kickstarter that turned out to be a hit and run, so I'm kind of invested 😄
latent mural
invested in spending money?
reef patrol
In getting a working product 😄
reef patrol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCaRuuIZ9nY
This - I've wanted to build a Hackintosh in a retro Apple case for a while. But not have to cut open an actual Apple case.
chrome estuary
That would be pretty fun.
latent mural
not on a 10" lcd
reef patrol
Just plug in a full size monitor.
The small monitor is mostly a novelty for the Classic case further up.
ashen spindle
didn't look at it, but it should, they were part of that agreement
latent mural
D:
ashen spindle
huh
and given the launch to be soon, that shouldn't really be a testing version with just a missing output
but maybe it is?
latent mural
i think it's final :c
ashen spindle
latent mural
i was genuinely going to splooge out and get one
but i very specifically need usb-c
timid chasm
is it a requirement for all their devices or just some?
ashen spindle
yeah maybe they only consider it for gpus in the making after the agreement? or maybe some limitations of making the refresh work? sad to see whatever the reason is
latent mural
rtx 2060 here i come then :/
ooh maybe i can program something to use those tensor cores for sound processing
ashen spindle
I want to do that but for graphics, if it would benefit sounds? idk don't know enough about that field
will probably boil down to if you can fit the math you need into the matrix format the cores use
ashen spindle
If I understood them correctly and based off of their name, Tensor cores are basically specialised hardware for a certain type of equations right? idk if you can fit whatever you need into it
latent mural
they seem to do some specific matrix operations
ashen spindle
its already implemented in the pimax 5k afaik
thats why everyone funded it to get the eye tracking goal
pale sigil
not using this tech
ashen spindle
it's not or you mean this is something different?
pale sigil
its different
ashen spindle
how?
pale sigil
this tech focuses on alterting the graphics where you're looking
primax is general aye tracking
ashen spindle
yes
pale sigil
at a high res
ashen spindle
no
pale sigil
also based off leaks primax sucks ass
ashen spindle
that is like the reason why people wanted eye tracking
plush summit
that looks nice
ashen spindle
like a friend backed the 8k bc of using this tech
its cool and will be 100% necessary at some point but its old news
plush summit
it needs to be fast tho
ashen spindle
yup
latent mural
only makes sense with high resolution HMDs imo
ashen spindle
even on "low" resolutions to lower hardware requirements even further
crude cipher
The 8k is upscaled 
I wouldn't count on the connectors of the VII until it's actually available
ashen spindle
yeah but usually it's been what we were shown, especially when it's so close to launch
though maybe msi, asus etc. will offer the output
latent mural
those won't be out until octobre
and you shouldn't forget that AMD is still mainly a CPU company
putting VRlink on the mainboard makes sense anyway
ashen spindle
wait so we get the card in a month but only 6 month later custom models????
latent mural
if Iunderstood it correctly, yes
and sales start only from the AMD store
6 months later?
where what why
idk
ashen spindle
if its true, it's just weird because amd sometimes even had SKUs they ONLY sold through AIBs
latent mural
where is this info coming form?
if you cross your eyes on this image, the fans become stereoscopic https://hothardware.com/ContentImages/NewsItem/46874/content/Radeon_VII.jpg
I'm having trouble finding any info on those 6 months
somebody told me here, unfortunatley I can't find any news article to back this up
wait let me try another string twss
Extremetech had some weird sentence
i remember someone saying that initially from only amd thing here
same
maybe it was part of the later changed information
well i went through a lot
i cant find that info
this is all i get
plush summit
i wonder the power consumption
latent mural
two 8 pins + pci-e = <processing>
plush summit
so 400?
latent mural
we can just check the radeon mi variant it already is
300 tdp
the 3 fans will eat up uh...... 30w at max?
chrome estuary
350w to be safe
plush summit
and nvidea?
ashen spindle
225 for the 2080
plush summit
so 2080 is still the better option
latent mural
vega is still vega is still fury
ashen spindle
I mean if you decide based on power draw I got this 1030 I could sell you
latent mural
no magic there :C
plush summit
fuck off XD
latent mural
doesn't give any damn about power consumption
latent mural
all i care for is how much it costs
latent mural
this always seemed like an obvious solution https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STdZ_kiHYEY
latent mural
I've been thinkening...
rtx 2060 will have a very concrete purpose eventually
once sound wavetracing comes around
arguably a much bigger improvement in experience than that noisy raytracing
You do know that half life one had that?
Requires almost no cpu power
Thr tech was just bought by creative and ended up unused
yeah many things had it
evn in creative's hands
(half life did? no idea)
thief did
it was quite fun
latent mural
that said im still not 100% sure what operations can the tensor cores actually do
sounds has always been an afterthought
ashen spindle
remember the "true audio" thing that amd tried a while ago? maybe something like that
latent mural
as far as i know the directionality was done strictly via cpu (that's not hard)
the chip just performed convolution efficiently (reverberation/head related transfer function(i.e. what makes it sound like it's coming from your left not from a small headphone speaker on your left))
but it was not wavetracing
wavetracing seems to be mainly for VR
which is basically the only improvement they could make
don't see why that couldn't be done like it was already done in the 90s
toxic jolt
I think it's a really low level directional sound thing for valve games
I don't think they did much actual math for it
I say that because iirc lots of people found inconsistencies with sound at certain angle which led people to believe it was just a simple algorithm
Which is still impressive
latent mural
it is not basically the only improvement they could make
complex (i.e. nothing you've ever heard in game at this point) sound 'tracing' simulations can already be done in realtime on cpu, at the cost of processing power of a few would agree for in a game
if they could make that work i'm all for it
can't give a damn about noisy reflections or slightly better shadows
latent mural
Scott Herkelman: Navi is on track and we are super excited to tell you more about it in 2019.
random oasis
yea I fully agree I want sound simulation to be better
my reaction time to sounds is drastically better than to most visual stimulation
toxic jolt
You know what I'm really tired of hearing?
People just generalizing windows 10 as "garbage" then using it to tell you to switch to X Linux distro
Google seems to think I can't get enough of it
pale sigil
I agree and disagree
I hate it when people say windows 10 ijs garbage when their still on windows 7
But I do also hate windows in general 😂
toxic jolt
I hear the win 7 argument a lot
My response is usually something along the lines of "alright, have fun when your entire HDD gets encrypted behind a 10K paywall"
reef patrol
😅
chrome estuary
I hate windows but I use it on the desktop for games and shit.
latent mural
good price
pale sigil
Meh
latent mural
although you'd need different keycaps
that would be the other point
if you wanted to buy a keyboard for 100$ new that is very likely your best option though
latent mural
what's wrong with this picture? https://hexus.net/media/uploaded/2019/1/24caf82a-a837-419d-aa97-915718daee16.png
and this
Only 3 display outputs
Excuse me wtf
the list is endless
As usual
bloody all of them
At least we don't have 6 base versions
damnit i just need a usb-c!
i think that virtual link agreement really means nothing at all
Lol
Do you have mini itx?
yes
Rip
Get a case with it
i need usb-c with display port alternate mode
i.e. on a gpu
But why though
because i travel a lot for most of my life
Nd a motherboard/case port can do that
Why not hdmi?
because portable monitors are and will be generally display port usb-c
1070ti is no longer VR class hardware?
yeah... this virtual link agreement means nothing at all
You do understand that vrlink is intended for high end hmds?
A 1070ti could struggle with those
A 2060 as well
no
vr link is intended for all future hmds
Wait
What
"Navi is still on track" to release this year?....
Nahh, can't be true
Apparently
Amd want's to "replace" last years products completely
So low and mid tier cards will likely follow at the end of this year
Somewhere q3 or q4 i'd guess
Somewhere they did say that their anti-leaking measures are more effective this time
wait a second
i think they did mention AIBs and vega vii in the same sentence somewhere too
AIBs?
well i guess they could sell the same reference design...
latent mural
I don't think that AMD is gonna prevent board partners designing their own carf
A 1070ti can handle current hmds fine
latent mural
But it'll struggle if they massively resolution
pale sigil
No but I'm failing to understand what would make it struggle
Unless I'm missunderstanding this vlink doesn't add onto performance requirements?
timid chasm
freesync nvidia driver thing came out today
random oasis
Took them long enough to stop being dbags and locking stuff out for no reason at least on this front
reef patrol
I mean... there IS a reason. It's called money 😄
And only a dozen or so monitors can do Gsync without the Gsync module present.
timid chasm
installed and set it up and will likely never notice it
reef patrol
I hope GN makes a benchmark video comparison, so I can check for specific issues 😄
random oasis
You mean only a dozen or so monitors are supported currently
It works on nearly all monitors and those it doesn't are because they aren't following the standard properly most likely
reef patrol
It passes the Gsync tests on a few monitors. A lot of other monitors have issues trying to perform at Gsync levels.
They did some off some worst cases at CES.
Stutter, tearing and glitches.
random oasis
And all of those likely nvidias fault
reef patrol
Not really, no.
nVidia wanted a certain level of performance at given specs. Which is what the Gsync module allows. If Gsync monitors happen to match those specs, no issues. If they don't, enter "your own risk and mileage may wary" road.
random oasis
The glitches you mentioned are likely faulty drivers though
Bad implementation not up to spec
random oasis
Expect it's more like a CPU and turbo boost and Nvidia slapped a tiny cooler smaller than stock on it and points at the cpu as the reason it can't run well
Unless they're actually telling it to run outside of it's normal freqs which isn't a part of freesync and is purely something they'd be doing out of spec
tough stag
I have my Wooting Two
tough stag
Got it on ebay .. someone sold an old IBM pc .. complete with keyboard for 50 €
latent mural
50€ is still pretty cheap
tough stag
Was gunked up good though. Spent an hour cleaning it.
plush summit
Just bsod 3 times
Rip life
Gnna DDU my drivers
Problem solved
DDU to the rescue
pale sigil
pale sigil
Welp
latent mural
?
latent mural
rip
pale sigil
Anyone use a Synology NAS with a vpn?
latent mural
has anyone here played games on a 4k projector?
reef patrol
Yes. It's awesome.
latent mural
do you curve the screen?
im just not sure what to get
i dont really want to pay 1.3k for a tv
1.5k for a projector sounds ok
but at the same time 4k laser projectors are becoming more common
reef patrol
I got to review one of Acer's hilariously expensive projectors for s few days. Probably not the best person to tell you what to get 😂
reef patrol
1440p 144fps I think.
latent mural
gaming projector? hm...
reef patrol
Yup. Primarily used it for Wipeout 😁
latent mural
unrelatedly, newsworthy https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-vii-excellent-result-directml/
hm...
ashen spindle
"newsworthy" "wccftech" 
ashen spindle
no I just meant I don't see them as a reputable news site lul
latent mural
well if you read into it is says some chineese site said it
anyone could have said that, it's all the same level of reputable
as you know, i dont speak any chineese
they supply links to what ever they say
everyone has their own agenda
ashen spindle
yeah I guess reputable was the wrong term, quality of article maybe it smore what I dislike about them
pale sigil
i have
timid chasm
Using my monitors "Ultimate Engine" option under freesync w/ nvidias new driver causes undesirable results with League
crude cipher
By the way, Radeon VII scored about 1.62 times the GeForce RTX 2080 in “Luxmark” which utilizes an OpenCL-based GPGPU-like ray tracing renderer.
Based on these facts, I think NVIDIA’s DLSS-like thing can be done with a GPGPU-like approach for our GPU.
This is a quote of Kozak from the article
pale sigil
Disney copyright claimed a video from 2015 of me recording swtor
Are they even allowed to copyright gameplay soundtrack that isn't even from the claim?
crude cipher
A one minute video of gameplay is probably fair use
As long as it's not just a cutscene
random oasis
Just remember fair use is admitting copyright infringement
spare wave
Not really. It is a protected case. It is not infringement as it is transformative.
random oasis
Its protected but is an admission of infringement
Always argue its non infringing first as if you argue and lose fair use cant go back and say its non infringing
latent mural
does somebody have a recommendation for a replacement for my m510, need a wireless mouse for university
random oasis
The logitech g602 has been treating me well and got it for like $30 on amazon
random oasis
602 is a wireless one
latent mural
the 602 still is like 60€ though
maybe I'll sell my finalmeme for another g pro wireless, lol
random oasis
Usa its like $30 on amazon
random oasis
Bought mine a couple months ago
As a cheap mouse for work. Ive been using the same g9x for the last 8 years or so for my desktops
latent mural
I just looked up the price of the g700s
260€
the normal g700 isn't available anymore
random oasis
Im still a fan of their mice
latent mural
never used the 602 personally
random oasis
$50 mouse has lasted me 8 years and tens of thousands of hours. Thats amazing to me
latent mural
haven't made bad experience with logitech yet though, although I don't like the g502
chrome estuary
602 was nice but I prefer my trackball mice
latent mural
"Nvidia might be working on a GeForce GTX 16660 Ti GPU"
these rumours are just taking a piss at this point
That would honestly be the worst one yet
reef patrol
crude cipher
@random oasis fair use is definitionally not infringement.
reef patrol
It is though - It is infringement with a clause that allows you to do so... if the owner agrees.
It's not cut and dry.
crude cipher
Fair use is one of the limitations to copyright intended to balance the interests of copyright holders with the public interest in the wider distribution and use of creative works by allowing as a defense to copyright infringement claims certain limited uses that might otherwise be considered infringement.
The U.S. Supreme Court has traditionally characterized fair use as an affirmative defense, but in Lenz v. Universal Music Corp. (2015)[5] (the "dancing baby" case), the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit concluded that fair use was not merely a defense to an infringement claim, but was an expressly authorized right, and an exception to the exclusive rights granted to the author of a creative work by copyright law: "Fair use is therefore distinct from affirmative defenses where a use infringes a copyright, but there is no liability due to a valid excuse, e.g., misuse of a copyright."
devout heron
the "dancing baby" case
reef patrol
Here's the thing, pyn. You don't get to decide if content you use is fair use in the legal sense.
That's for you, the owner of the content and s potential judge to decide.
No one objects? You're good. Someone objects? Time for a lawyer
latent mural
But there's never time for a lawyer
https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620
reef patrol
reef patrol
Sweet jesus... just saw what Slack charges users. It's insane.
latent mural
you know what IRC charges their users?
reef patrol
Nothing. IRC is a protocol.
zenith mirage
Man some of that looks so good, but also I don't want to spend all my pixels and frames to get there 
crude cipher
@reef patrol the owner of the content doesn't get to decide if it's fair use, they only get to decide whether they 1) think it's fair use 2) are willing to press claims if they think it isn't
reef patrol
Only a judge gets to decide that.
But the owner can definitely claim infringement.
So I stand by my former comment entirely 😛
crude cipher
I just object to making it sound like fair use lives only at the mercy of copyright holders.
reef patrol
It does though, unless you go to court.
latent mural
rumours rumorus tumours https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-zen-navi-soc-xbox-scarlett-playstation-5,38468.html
y'know what would be funny? if AMD's whole "navi info as the year goes along" thing just meant "new xbox"
crude cipher
Wouldn't be very funny to me D:
hidden dragon
what's so special about that board?
toxic jolt
Is anyone else able to get to https://www.deepin.org/
I keep getting a 301 but I can't find anyone else complaining
toxic jolt
Did it work for you?
pale sigil
Ye
pale sigil
Works fine
pale sigil
Banned innit
pale sigil
Ir will be a DNS error
They probably did some changed that haven't updated your send
End
toxic jolt
Lemme try a few things
Aha
For some reason it only works on desktop
I checked "Desktop Site" in chrome, now it loads
pale sigil
@toxic jolt works mobile fine for. Me
toxic jolt
Android?
chrome estuary
I'd personally just use their DE on another OS
I'd probably not use the actual thing
plush summit
is anyone else having problems with the latest drivers on windows 1809?
or am i the unlucky one who updates to 1809
main trellis
Idk if this is the correct channel to ask this but
Does anyone know why my Xbox One S Controller keeps disconnecting randomly e.g. stuck at certain controls?
reef patrol
Damaged cable? Is this with a Wooting connected?
main trellis
Not connected with a wooting, I use bluetooth
plush summit
Batteries?
timid chasm
still 1803 but will post if it updates to 1809 and screws up (it probably will)
chrome estuary
i'm using 1809 i think and it's fine with me.
I think it's like the fixed 1809 or whatever
random oasis
Batteries or just too much junk in the room
Have you tried using a wired connect and seeing if the issue is in the communication or something in the controller or pc itself?
pale sigil
I finally de soldered the switch on my caps
replaced it with another, wont work \o/
i gave up
xD
toxic jolt
rip
pale sigil
the keeb community can be so toxic at times
timid chasm
You ever played League? most toxic place I've encountered
latent mural
@pale sigil If you don't want that pcb I'd be glad to tkae it off of you
ashen spindle
error: undeclared identifier at line x, I declare it: error: redifinition of variable at line x 
plush summit
🤣 🤣 🤣
latent mural
rtx 2060s can be found less than msrp?...
huh
like 350 euro, which is basically without europe-tax
i want to buy one right now
starts looking for unforeseen problems
pale sigil
Y wot
Wtf
It's cheaper than a 1070ti and performs better
@latent mural buy me one
latent mural
honestly i am most confused
hm..
palit and gainward where i'm at
but on newegg reputable brands are less than msrp
ashen spindle
palit and gainward aren't selling in the us afaik so that might help their price possibilities
since they might avoid trumps tax tarrif thing
latent mural
cheapest in germany is the gigabyte Windforce OC
for 355€
well that's practically no eu tax
ye
hence, it's less than msrp
palit gamingpro is 356 and ganiward phoenix is 368
msrp in germany is 369.99€
rip gpu companies
you can get a vega 64 for almost that price though
or even less
pale sigil
Damn even cheaper in other EU countries
@latent mural got any screenshots for these prices
@latent mural he wants type c
latent mural
ik
the 2060 doesn't have that though?
some do
oddly
the super duper OC ones
ok?
as in, AIB ones do if they are the more expensive OC variants
or i can just buy the founders when it appears
pale sigil
Hmm, do you guys think an i5 3330 will be good for a small server 😄
pale sigil
1155
sick creek
i use an intel g3258 in my home media server
pale sigil
im tempted to haggle for this persons system for like 60 quid xD
8gb ram, i5 3330 and gt 710
sick creek
it would be more than enough
sick creek
depends on what the server is doing but if its for NAS/media then 100% fine
sick creek
ya its fine then
sick creek
ew
pale sigil
so im trying to slowly make them face facts
and they never use it and want to get rid of it
sick creek
ya nobody wants their shit screen
latent mural
oof
sick creek
oof i had that keyboard once
latent mural
kolink
pale sigil
the issue with razer mice is price tbh
sick creek
i have the deathadder elite, paid ~$60 for it and it's great. only issue i have is scroll wheel squeak
but i could spray some lube in there
just too lazy
latent mural
it's a "kolink punisher"
sick creek
pale sigil
really wish i had a car
latent mural
I remember there being a non Glass side window version though, so it may look different
oof
pale sigil
said id consider buying the desktop
sick creek
pale sigil
`>tore apart 8k camera they bought
360p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIRDr8qs_Fw&feature=youtu.be
toxic jolt
they just did an update to wearOS and it's pretty good
toxic jolt
more widget spots on the default watch face, more widgets (moon phase, sundown and sunrise times), minor visual changes
hopefully better performance
toxic jolt
ashen spindle
okay I watched that because I thought it could be interresting, but here is the summary for other people who are interrested: still nothing new
there was an update to toolkits, where is the leak lmao
man now I'm mad at clickbait and shitty reporting bc of that video instead of being in bed, thanks lol
plush summit
me 2 years ago
nullptr exception
me now
if {} try{} catch{} if{} = nullptr exception
pale sigil
My mouse went from like £50 now its £35
pale sigil
Dayummmm, 9600k £250
haughty condor
pale sigil
@haughty condor going to be a while before the screens are decent
crude cipher
I'm not particularly interested in a phone you can't put a case on and that will crack any way you drop it
@pale sigil seems a waste of money, not like you can run any games with raytracing on
timid chasm
@pale sigil why?
crude cipher
Not cheaper than a card you've already got
pale sigil
It is
I got it for £350 with psu 850w xD
Otherwise I wouldn't do this
@crude cipher also considering a 2070 maybe since they are down
crude cipher
Bro, your used 1070ti is worth £250 max
crude cipher
Tell me how 1 month old changes it being a used last-gen card
pale sigil
Because of warrenty
crude cipher
Whatever, it's generally your money
pale sigil
With cAshback plus my £20 voucher best case £15 upgrade worst £40
and I could probably sell anthem
crude cipher
It is a bit odd hearing someone talk trash about their relative's money habits when their own are so questionable
pale sigil
Except I'm being sensible about it
I'm not losing much and I know what I have spare
If it was over £50 then no
It feels like I struck a nerve
Oh wait it doesn't have vlink
I just want my system to be perfect 😦
zenith mirage
Which would be fine of you didn't already have a card
I mean as pny said, it's your money so do what you like
I just think its odd personally
pale sigil
I know 😭😭😭😭
I'm just sick of my system never being good enough
Feels like a piece of shit all the time for me
Idk why
I hate my pc
Just discovered h200 🤤
timid chasm
so you spend some money for a couple frames?
thats like worse than my move from a 970 to a 1060 back in the day
pale sigil
I went from a 970 to a 1070 😂
Ok ok I get it, just got a little exited, benchmarks are vastly different it seems
zenith mirage
I'm hoping that I can upgrade my GPU at some point this year. It'd be nice get closer to 144fps without having to turn everything down and making every game look ugly
crude cipher
If Navi has something that's a reasonable upgrade from a 1060, I might get it, otherwise it's wait for Intel's noises to push the 2070 into buyable price territory
bleh
Don't want to wait until 2020 for playable FPS in 3440x1440
reef patrol
Surely the 2060 is an option?
spare wave
I can understand Callum though, my 730 to 1050TI upgrade felt good, but not even 2 years later the 1050 is already struggling in some cases.
crude cipher
But you wouldn't upgrade to 1060 now @spare wave
latent mural
ok so after some digging, the only AIB rtx 2060 with usb-c is GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2060 6GB AORUS XTREME :/
reef patrol
Often 😄
crude cipher
@reef patrol there are a lot of cards that upgrade from 1060
None that are a good value prop though.
reef patrol
Sure - But they all have varying budgets.
Regardless - The 2060 is the value king...again. It's just the nature of the xx60 lineup.
The 70 and 80(TI) cards will never really be "good value", since they're enthusiast grade.
144FPS or 4K
spare wave
I feel really excited about the FHC
crude cipher
I really want to push >100 frames for this monitor
reef patrol
You're either going to be paying 2070 money, or wait for a year or more, for the next big thing to get announced, forcing prices to adjust. As I see it anyhow. 😃
I managed to get my 1080 at a really good price a long while after it was announced. And my 2080 was a tradeup.
pale sigil
Idk what was going through my head when I got this corsair 350d back then
reef patrol
I've got a Cougar case coming in soon, if you're looking for a chance of pace 😄
Mansen keeps quiet, because he swaps parts like a clothes addicted teen
pale sigil
It's not even about upgrades, it's huge and weights a ton
I hate it
Ye no I'd never spell that wrong
Using my fucjing iPad
reef patrol
Mine weighs.... like 60 pounds or so? With parts.
pale sigil
I'm not even into this whole rgb stuff or fancy looking cases, I just want a small case that doesn't take much space up
And has better air flow
Idk what I was thinking
reef patrol
Two good picks for your kind of needs.
No fancy windows or anything. (Both come with window variants though)
pale sigil
Man I'm done with corsair cases
I much prefer cases with the whole hiding PSU etc and wires
reef patrol
No arguments there. A PSU cover is so practical, even without a window.
pale sigil
Man ngl I've fallen in love with the h200i
reef patrol
It's a great case - Not exactly small for mITX though
pale sigil
But I don't want to buy a new mobo 😄
reef patrol
They do make larger variants for mATX and ATX though.
pale sigil
I need new ram and a new case
reef patrol
I thoroughly enjoyed the biggest boi, the H700
pale sigil
The h400 is great too
reef patrol
I'd skip the i versions though.
The smart controller is still pretty flaky, and not a replacement for a proper fan controller, and/or RGB controller.
pale sigil
Aye
I like the h500 to but it's to big
I need to sort my room out, take out everything completely and redesign but no one will help me 😦
Hyper 212 rocks!
I used one for years :3
I gave it to my cousin
Also i regret getting this h100i
reef patrol
They recently did a black edition on it.
Same cooler otherwise. Very neat
Of the 212*
pale sigil
I was tempted to just sell my system a whole and just make a completely new system
I literally cannot stand my system
I want to start from scratch
I made so many mistakes
reef patrol
I've done that many times 😅
pale sigil
My ram is garbage (2133), I ofc bought a 4 core cpu like a complete moron, my cooling is beyond pathetic and I went with a h100i which does fuck all for my temps.
Tho tbf at ddr4 launch there weren't many options
reef patrol
Didn't you have like a 6th or 7th gen Intel now?
pale sigil
7700k when I should have got a 8700k
reef patrol
Then you have to have at least 2133 RAM, because 1333 is DDR3 era 😄
pale sigil
Sorry I'm brain dead atm xD
Haven't slept
Literally
But yes that's what I meant
2133
latent mural
oh poo
misty saffron
so they finally realized they did retarded shit with the prices
reef patrol
Here the 2060 is slightly cheaper than 1070, so it's a win win.
We've sold a ton of them in the first week.
Building three PCs with 2060 cards today...if I can make it in time 😅
pale sigil
Give me one
reef patrol
latent mural
hm.. Palit (and all their sub brand) cards in germany come from poland
interestng
that's one hell of a difference
that's like <math> 42% less
Nvidia store doesn't ship to outside of whatever country they are in though...
reef patrol
latent mural
most parts of europe are still in pre-order availability only, hm....
zenith mirage
Same. Always nice not paying tax
Especially on something that pricy. Yuck
Always nice when a company "gifts" you stuff. All the records I've ordered from overseas have been marked as gifts
zenith mirage
Well the funny thing is that one of them was actully opened by customs so i guess they are just lazy
but not too lazy, just the right level
latent mural
well within eu there are no customs
pale sigil
WELP MY PUMP IS RATTLING
latent mural
according to measurements after eq the dt 150 are a much better headphone than the dt 770
maybe they are uncomfortable?
these ones
fallow bison
Callum are youe experiencing this issue? https://youtu.be/vRGS4GJ-NQU @2:30
pale sigil
reef patrol
latent mural
there's some info on the internet about RTX ON also almost doubles vram usage
chrome estuary
@latent mural I've personally used the DT770
latent mural
i have the 880 250 ohm and some others too numerous to wish to list
but i need something well closed
chrome estuary
I've got a pair of M50x
They're great but I wish I had the Bluetooth models because I use them at work and the Bluetooth adapter I have sucks
pale sigil
bluetooth sucks
latent mural
if not the 770
and bluetooth always is bad
at least if you don't plan to only use them on the go and need extreme noise canceling
random oasis
If I'm on the go I wear some iems or some California headphone company Silverados
Silverados are near indestructible past the cord so far (although I did rewire mine somewhat to make the cable sane)
latent mural
good luck getting those in europe though
random oasis
Yeah idk about availability of them nowadays
I have 3 pairs. Got each for like $40 usd
latent mural
ok
nice
currently pretty happy about my HD 6XX
don't think I'm gonna switch in the next couple of years
random oasis
How are those? At home I typically use akg k7xx
pale sigil
Soon...
latent mural
extremely nice
pale sigil
I will get them eventually
latent mural
have no similar reference though
random oasis
Construction quality of the k7xx are a bit shoddy although easy enough to fix
random oasis
The internal wiring is just poorly done after about a year and a half the wire was flexed too much and broke free
Soldered it back down and was easy but still
latent mural
tbh I haven't looked at the wiring yet
random oasis
That's a good thing. You shouldn't have to
latent mural
haven't noticed anything weird after about a year of use though
and the design isn't exactly new, I'm sure they removed all the major flaws in the last 20 years
random oasis
Yeah you'd think that with the k7xx
I might've just got a defective unit but it seemed like it was a design flaw with the wire being too short and so the earcup movement killed it
latent mural
ok, that won't happen with the 6xx, both sides have their own cable
latent mural
if I remember correctly they have the speaker designed in a way that the cable pretty much plugs directly in it
random oasis
Or you could do it all solid but then you have no movement
At all
Yeah I'm talking a half inch wire run at tops
latent mural
wire plugs directly in it
they have no wires on top
cable goes directly to bot h sides
random oasis
Do the earcup not move at all?
latent mural
the earcup can move
random oasis
Hmm neat
latent mural
but the cable plugs in both sides
random oasis
Yeah I'm fine with that style. Prefer it a bit honestly
latent mural
ordered the dt 150 250 ohm
also the 19 euro superlux hd 651
apparently they are made of magic and Taiwanese sweat
neat oriole
Don’t get the 990
880 is better
Or if you’re dead set on getting them
Listen to them before you buy em
They’re very bright
You might hate em after a bit
latent mural
I have the 880.. along with too many headphones
and im a strong advocate of complicated equing
after a bunch of high precision eq and htrfs the 880 are the best speakers i've ever heard
0 isolation though
and the 150 seem to have very very good isolation
They seem to be ear protection earmuffs down to 1khz
pale sigil
Anyone ever used a fm Bluetooth transmitter
reef patrol
I don't even remember FM in general tbh 😄
latent mural
@pale sigil i have used it
it works as you'd expect it
and it sounds a bit worse than fm radio
so it works as expected
pale sigil
Hot dam, 2060 for £320
latent mural
pale sigil
Spotify pls
pale sigil
of app data
latent mural
oh i thought windirstat showed diskwide
latent mural
im using the uwp variant
i need to use the inbuilt admin account or powershell to get there
latent mural
say something computer sciency