#๐Ÿ”Œโ”‚tech

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tough stag
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doing the dire as i need it.
I got:
Backups
Documentries
Movies
TV-Shows
E-Books
Training
MP3
Musicvids
Programms
Security
Games
Pictures

pale sigil
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Media etc is on a shared drive

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Second drive

tough stag
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Well then, specify your question pls ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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What do you want to do with your Storage space?

pale sigil
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Well I did write what it is now

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I just wanted opinions/suggestions on a dir structure based off the sample I provided bolbsmile

tough stag
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My NAS is a raid 6 with 15 TB of space
I do my backups, keep my private files in an ecrypted directory
And have my downloads sorted by category

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Dual Gig bit lan atm .. but i hope to upgrade it to 10gig somewhen next year

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Also i want to migrate from soft raid to a 3ware pcie

misty saffron
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meanwhile my 1tb hdd isn't even half full

zenith mirage
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I was surprised to learn I only have 200GB left on a 2TB drive. No idea where it all went

pale sigil
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Amazon echo third gen ยฃ9.99 ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™ nice bday wake up

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Already have going to be an xmas gift

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ยฃ9.99 can't go wrong

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I spent more than that when going to uni ๐Ÿ˜‚

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I'll probably get bored of it and give it to my mum or something haha

timid chasm
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Question... keep my 1080 Ti or swap it with the wifes 1080 so I can play my RPGs in 4k on the big tv?

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I only run 1080p and don't intend to upgrade anytime soon so I don't think I need a Ti for any reason besides maxing out textures which sometimes has diminishing value

pale sigil
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Or give it me

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Also an option

timid chasm
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Sure, when you do for me what she does ๐Ÿ˜‰

pale sigil
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Ohhhh baby

reef patrol
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Brexit Gone Wild

zenith mirage
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I'd say take the 1080

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A Ti is way overkill for 1080p imo

pale sigil
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In this day and age with unoptimized hot garbage

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It's not xD

zenith mirage
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I guess it depends then

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I get on fine at 1440p 144hz on a muvh weaker card. Depends how much you're willing to comprimise. But at 1080p 60Hz (probably) a 1080 will do without having to lose much

solar hinge
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I've got 3x3TB, 2x4TB, 2X2TB and about 1,2TB in SSD storage (250GB of that is nvme)

pale sigil
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"they've been at it for around 10 hours"

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No pictures, no videos etc

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Since when do drones last more than 40m tops

pale sigil
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So ye i oppned my system the other day, realised i was choking my gpu, now im back to 33c at 30% fan speed playing games ๐Ÿ˜„

plush summit
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@pale sigil at least you figured it out it doesn't look like apple even noticed

timid chasm
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Hah. I was downloading gpu drivers on the wife's pc at like 1MB/s and was wondering why so slow and couldn't figure out wtf was wrong since other devices were normal

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A minute after it finishes I get a pop up in the corner "Ni No Kuni 2 has finished downloading" ๐Ÿ˜‚
Fucking forgot steam was open

reef patrol
sick creek
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My media server started downloading shit at 10/100 speeds (i have gigabit fios) and i was really confused... turns out the switch it was plugged into autosensed 10/100 for some reason and all i had to do was replug it

pale sigil
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xD

sick creek
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Fucking occams razor strikes again

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Although to be fair that isnt what you would think to do first

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I never looked at the switch, as i assumed it was running fine

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I would have seen that evil amber led

fair gull
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thats why i plan to up my link to sfp 10gig

pale sigil
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See, im not crazy

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@fair gull 10gb ๐Ÿคค

ashen spindle
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debatable

pale sigil
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i haven't used it toda

pale sigil
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tthey really wanna make an example

spare wave
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Can anyone give me any recommendations for a case (ATX, full or mid, 360 rad compat), where you can install a 360 rad without removing nearly all drive bays, and a bay for an optical drive?

spare wave
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Wow, they look really nice, but do they have slots for DVD/Bluray drives?

chrome estuary
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I've got an Thermaltake Core x9

pale sigil
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2 of my switches from my custom be dead

toxic jolt
zenith mirage
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Anyone have any knowledge of optane memory? Trying to help a mate buy a laptop but I have no idea if 4GB of memory + 8GB of optane as good as just getting 8GB as standard.

reef patrol
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Optane is not memory

zenith mirage
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Well

misty saffron
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optane is not ram

reef patrol
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Anyhow .... 4GB RAM is enough for office work, and light web use.

zenith mirage
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"memory"

misty saffron
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iirc it's something that caches recently accessed files on the hdd

zenith mirage
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I know it's not memory but that's how it's presented in the shop she's in

misty saffron
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so it is a bit faster

reef patrol
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Then the shop needs a word with a lawyer ๐Ÿ˜„

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It isn't RAM or storage. It's cache, and it controls what is in it internally.

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4GB RAM will let you use office apps and light web use.

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Don't expect 50 chrome tabs.

zenith mirage
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That's what you get for buying in big brick and mortar shops I guess

reef patrol
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Bad ones anyhow. (Works in a brick and mortar store)

zenith mirage
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Well yeah, and there's plenty of them around here

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But anyway, she's tracked down a better one so the question is now redundant

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However I did learn a bit so thanks guys :)

reef patrol
ashen spindle
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Optane can be used as ram, infact thats one of it's better use cases, intel pr fucked up because they launched this weird HDD speed up first and everyone only thinks abotu that as optane

reef patrol
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No - It's used as cache*

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Internal controller.

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There is no way to tell your OS to utilize an Optane stick or PCI-E card as proper RAM. It's either a hybrid cache drive for your HDD, or a dedicated Optane storage device.

ashen spindle
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Their SSD, HDD accelerator and this are all called Optane vvDerp

crimson wigeon
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Imagine having only Optane memory, and no separate RAM and persistent storage etc, sounds rather wonderful don't you think

reef patrol
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This is just Optane pretending to be RAM.

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It's still slower than RAM, and is more expensive. Only real benefit is data persistence.

ashen spindle
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also size, that stick has 512 GB

reef patrol
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Also RAM is about ten times faster... blobLUL

ashen spindle
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don't think there is any actual data on that yet?

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hard to even find anything on this because most results are about the cache lmao

reef patrol
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No data? It's pretty simple to compare RAM speeds to Optane.

spare wave
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IIRC Optane is the NVMe HDD Speed-Up/Standalone M.2 SSD.

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You mean Optane Memory.

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Its own trademarked term.

ashen spindle
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I mean I'd assume it's more than that or it would've been availible much sooner, if putting optane on a stick would all they need

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yes the 3 things are all called Optane vvDerp

reef patrol
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It's for servers. It is not aimed at consumer use. And I'm comparing memory to memory here.

ashen spindle
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obviously, makes the most money after all, but all server tech drips down to consumers in some way

spare wave
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The Optane slapped to a DIMM is only compatible with Xeon.

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So most consumers wouldn't even be able to use it.

zenith mirage
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I have gigabit at home, this hurts me a lot feelsnoeastereggman

timid chasm
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I know the feeling

pale sigil
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You can't beat my grandparents

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Less than 1mb

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And during xmas it's pretty impossible to use it

timid chasm
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in-laws is ~6Mb but my mom has ADSL which is god awful

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she downloads in low kbs

zenith mirage
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Honestly the fact that this is still faster than 6% of GB is just a shame

timid chasm
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DL at my moms was .84 and up was .29 lol

zenith mirage
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Yikes

timid chasm
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Yup, thankfully she lives alone and only surfs a few things

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know what's crazy? netflix runs

ashen spindle
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I can beat you all, my grandparents never had internet rooVVV

zenith mirage
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Yeah I'm sure my parents get on fine when they're by themselfes, but my wee brother's still here and he's always downloading something or other

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Must be painful

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Oh yeah, my granny's never had Internet in her home, and it's a mobile deadzone

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No phone signal or mobile data

pale sigil
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My nan never

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It was so boring there on xmas day

toxic jolt
pale sigil
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Oh lord

plush summit
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XDDDDDDDD

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i forgot how good it was

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i need to watch it again

toxic jolt
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oof amd and nvidia

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what a madlad

spare wave
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Do you want to use an AMD Graphics Card then?

pale sigil
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My new speakers ๐Ÿคค

zenith mirage
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It's all fun and games until the neighbours send the council around

pale sigil
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their just as bad

zenith mirage
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One of our upstairs neighbours is a right dick. Used to play drums at 4 in the morning

pale sigil
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i didn't think 120w would be this decemtt

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i was aiming for 200w but was short

zenith mirage
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I don't even know what wattage our speakers are

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But the bass is hefty, so that's nice

pale sigil
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i need to put it elseware

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its on my desk amt

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and is vibraing everything

zenith mirage
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Put the sub on the floor so you can feel it in your bones

pale sigil
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what i dont undersand is i put my spare speakers into the subwoofer

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but hey won work

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OH LMAO

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Ignore me

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Can someone explain how these "in" ports work exactly?

reef patrol
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Monitor output into woofer.

chrome estuary
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I want to get a sub. My towers have small 8" running 150w each or something like that but I'd like a standalone 10"-12"

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Also my PC has a dedicated floor shaker port so i'll probably just use that instead of trying to fuck with passthrough on my speakers or something.

pale sigil
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Sometimes you just get sick of headphones

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After long sessions

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And tbh my ears can't take headphones for long sessions anymors so I use them a lot more now

reef patrol
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Comfy headphones for life.

ashen spindle
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Wireless headphones that don't press too strong on your ears are the perfect way for me rooGasm

chrome estuary
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see i live far enough away from people.

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but i live with my dad

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so I can't turn it up too loud when he's here.

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However. I've got a pair of ATH-M50x if I want good headphones at home with their bluetooth adapter for work (now i want the dedicated m50xbt because the bluetooth adapter I have sucks)

pale sigil
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I have n50x too

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But I just can't handle headphones anymore, ears are fucked

chrome estuary
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I paid $250 for my Samsung towers.

pale sigil
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Ugh tbh I only spent ยฃ60 on these speakers

chrome estuary
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They're standalone self powered ones.

pale sigil
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Z533s

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Sound awesome

chrome estuary
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nope

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unless you want one.

pale sigil
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You do need one

chrome estuary
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People who like to feel their bones rattle.

pale sigil
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Need one

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Speakers won't function properly without it

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They also use rca

chrome estuary
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what...

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are you...

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what...

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No that's not true at all. I've never had a head unit that didn't work without a sub.

pale sigil
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properly

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If the speakers are powered directly

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Like them shitty ones that have the wire on them

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Ye they'll be fine

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But like if you use ones that come with a Subwoofer most cases they won't be great

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Well not shitty

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But not exactly great

solar hinge
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I can't tell you, I paid 300 for a 1k worth set up (almost 10 years ago :p)

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5.1 set up

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If you can, see if you get a Philips ambx set second hand

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Great speakers, got one when I was 17 still working great

timid chasm
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I had an inaccessible boot device the other day

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yay windows updates!

toxic jolt
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hardwareeeeee

plush summit
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Lol

toxic jolt
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probs hdd or ram

spare wave
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My Windows 10 and 8 decided to kick their file system, boot files and other much needed things by just shutting down at least a dozen times now.

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Server 2016 didn't give me any problems, so far, atleast, but now NVIDIA stops supporting it, and RTX won't even work with older drivers....

chrome estuary
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I swear to God sometimes I feel like the only person who doesn't have issues with W10

misty saffron
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same lol

plush summit
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Same...all the issues ive had have been a result of my fuckery in the registry

spare wave
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I don't know either.
In my regular circle of people I interact with, there are 2 people, me and someone else. Windows seems to hate us. Forced Updates would never go away or turning them off in any way wouldn't help. It regularly killed itself to complete unusability and I even lost the entire data on my boot drive.

plush summit
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This is why i went through the trouble to turn them off

zenith mirage
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Yeah I'm doing alright with W10 so far

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Haven't encountered any boot issues, data loss, BSODs

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so far

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I've probably jinxed it now

spare wave
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@plush summit We tried that. Registry, Services, Group policy etc.

plush summit
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did you disable the automatic startup in managment?

spare wave
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Yes but it somehow determined that if there is no update, there has to be some kind of problem, so might as well restart.

misty saffron
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ehhh turning off updates is not a great idea either

plush summit
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whatever

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if it keeps my system stable

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and if it keeps it from waking me up in the middle of the light

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theni dont care

spare wave
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I just don't like their attitude, that their update is more important than whatever I am doing at that moment.

misty saffron
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might not keep your system stable in the future ;)

ashen spindle
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Pc can't start in the night if you turn it off rooThink

plush summit
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@misty saffron i still have the option to check for updates

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it just that it only checks and updates when i want it to

misty saffron
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if you actually do that regularly then my applause

plush summit
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yes

misty saffron
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๐Ÿ‘

plush summit
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i want the controll

misty saffron
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completely ditching updates is just dumb, though

plush summit
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yeah

misty saffron
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even dumber than updating automatically

ashen spindle
plush summit
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this is how it should* be

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no wake timers

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no auto downloads

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no auto driver installs

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those are annoying when im trying to do a clean install

zenith mirage
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Have you got Windows inverted or is it just a colour scheme?

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Also yes, I agree 100%

ashen spindle
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might be the new dark mode in the latest win10?

plush summit
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dark mode has been arround 4ever

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its the dark mode for file explorer that is new

ashen spindle
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ah

reef patrol
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OwO

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Leaktesting now. No hardware is on except for the pump, so even if it sprays everywhere, there shouldn't be any wallet pains. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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I believe this coolant IS UV reactive, but I don't have any UV lights atm.

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This is the cyberpunk one finally reaching a finished state.

And yes - I've rebuilt my rig completely three times or so within 1ยฝ years.

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At least for a good while. Paid a good bit for the artwork ๐Ÿ˜„

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Yeah I love how it turned out. It's a very dark, and dimly lit rainy night.

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I hired an artist on Reddit for the artwork - Most expensive part.
I asked around, and I found a local ish guy who does this professionally for streamers.
It's something called UV print. You can kind of feel the texture, if you touch it. It was physically printed on, not a vinyl. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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Not super expensive either. He charged me 110โ‚ฌ for the top and side panel.

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The artwork commision itself was around 200

pale sigil
sick creek
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Wow thatโ€™s ridiculous

timid chasm
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I would like to know how many updates have happened between testing the Denuvo build and non-Denuvo build if Denuvo was removed after a while

chrome estuary
sick creek
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@timid chasm this isnt the first time drm has caused performance or stability issues. This goes back well over 10 years

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I had not heard of denuvo because i havent been pc gaming for a while, but i was only surprised at the amount of performance loss... not that it happened at all

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I would expect drm to cause perf loss if it is always running and hooked into the main process of the game/constantly checking files, etc

ashen spindle
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anyone know about a trustworthy US VPN that works with Netflix? Obviously asking because I am from the US but just on holiday elsewhere rooSpy

misty saffron
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just get a free aws box and get openvpn running there

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netflix is probably blocking all non-residential ips, though

ashen spindle
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I mean I only want to watch one single thing, dont really want to bother with much for a single movie

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if that is possible ofc

zenith mirage
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Have you considered less ethical means of watching this one thing?

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Not that I'm promoting such things of course

ashen spindle
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well finding a vpn seemed like the quicker version at first

halcyon moss
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can you offline it? on a phone or tablet?

ashen spindle
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hm? how would that trick netflix into thinking im in a different place

reef patrol
solar hinge
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with potato cam

reef patrol
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How dare you - That's on my DSLR. Though admittedly it has a hard time picking up colour differences. It has a very clear shift between cyan and purple in person.

solar hinge
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tripod, long exposure, prettier camera person = great shot

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i'm joking btw ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

reef patrol
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Long exposures just make it all whiter. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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And this is with trupuuds

pale sigil
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@reef patrol if you ever come to the UK for a visit for more than a week I'll pay you to teach me custom loops 101 ๐Ÿ˜‚

plush summit
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WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUCK

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"I want an RTX 2060 for my birthday"
Parents go looking in the store only to find fucking 40 different varients

timid chasm
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@sick creek I don't doubt DRM affects performance I'm just curious if all of that performance is from DRM removal or if there are other improvements that have added to it. Obviously if you're hooking into files and checking while they're active something is going to be affected

plush summit
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@timid chasm keep in mind that some cracks just fake the legitimacy to the DRM....so you might not see a performance increase with a pirated copy unless it specifically states that denuvo or whatever drm you think is slowing it down as being removed

sick creek
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Tbh in my experience, drm is always a perf hog

toxic jolt
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I never really understood why

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is injecting that common?

latent mural
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USB-C

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just needs a usb-c connection on the cheapest gpu he can find

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related, 8 pin connector :x

misty saffron
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@timid chasm drm does affect performance. that's more code for the processor to run, how could it not require more cpu time?

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there's also the fact that, say, denuvo's code is virtualized, and that takes a whole lot more time to run than normal code

fair gull
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like normal drm isnt that much of a hastle tbh but denuvo takes the piss with its vm crap

misty saffron
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I've never had steam's drm piss me off tbh

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game publishers fail to see that if somebody is looking for a cracked game, they're not going to buy it (before trying the cracked version)

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that's exactly what I do, I try the game cracked, if I enjoy it - I buy it

fair gull
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same

latent mural
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when denuvo launched it was effective though, delayed cracks by a very long time

misty saffron
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effective against the consumer, I agree

spare wave
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Depends on the game really.

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MGS5 was one of the first using Denuvo, IIRC. And it was cracked on the same day as release.

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Same for DA:Inquisition

latent mural
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@spare wave i dont think you recall that correctly, it wasn't one of the first

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but lemme look it up

spare wave
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Chronologically

timid chasm
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Lol... At no point have I said drm doesn't affect performance

spare wave
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1st Fifa. then DA:Inquisition, Battlefield Hardline, Arkham Knight and then MGSV.

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Oh yeah right, Mad Max and Lords of the Fallen too, but there it was removed.

latent mural
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well according to wiki because i don't really care/remember DA was cracked a month later after release

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which is considered "effective"

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wish there was a cracked date on wiki

spare wave
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Wikipedia? Which language? The english article doesn't even contain "Denuvo" nor "cracked"

latent mural
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Denuvo Anti-Tamper, or Denuvo, is an anti-tamper technology and digital rights management (DRM) scheme developed by the Austrian company Denuvo Software Solutions GmbH, a company formed through the management buyout (MBO) of Sony DADC DigitalWorks.

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Honesty I'm waiting for the subscription model to become the dominant form for AAA titles

spare wave
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Well, they cracked the Denuvo anti-tampering within a month, yes, but they then cracked the DRM on DA

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Well, they were through Denuvo within a month, yes, but Denuvo =/= DRM. The DRM of DA was done within a day of release.

pale sigil
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They cracked within hours once

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Unless you mean the actual version

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Ye you do

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Once said version is cracked most games get cracked very fast

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It's really fun to watch

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I visit crack watch daily just to see how fast games are cracked

latent mural
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@spare wave but wasnt the actual working cracked game released around that month later? i remember there being an announcement "we have bypassed it yada dada"

pale sigil
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The quickest denuvo crack was in meer hours

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Idk what you're on about a month for

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Pretty sure one game was cracked before it even came out lol

spare wave
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They learned how to bypass denuvo. Which is the hard part.

pale sigil
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No bypass was ages ago

spare wave
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Yes

pale sigil
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Yes this is correct

spare wave
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Ye

pale sigil
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Except they cracked most of the new ones

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Fast

spare wave
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That's what I meant.

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Yes, that too.

pale sigil
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Well they did at one point xD

latent mural
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Well of course now it is certainly much less (not) effective than in the start, it was definitely effective in the start is what I said

pale sigil
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That was an absolute fuck up

spare wave
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It was effective for a month.

latent mural
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that definitely sounds effective

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genuinely

pale sigil
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A lot of games don't use new version of denuvo

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Usually they still use an older version even with the newer version out

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The issue now isn't denuvo tbh

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It's denuvo + other drm

spare wave
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But the problem is that they are a framework to protect on a longer basis.
When they are through, drm isn't the biggest problem.
And in 1 month, they only 'protected' the sales of the games in that period.

latent mural
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well devs say that's still a lot

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and to me it seems, it is
if someone is on the fence of buying it at launch they are likely to get the crack, if they have no intention to buy it they wait for the crack whenever it comes, others may wait for a substantial discount/subscription when it comes

spare wave
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They say that to calm investors.

pale sigil
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Shadow of the tomb raider was ugh effective

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Took a few weeks to crack

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Assassins creed was difficult because of Ubisoft using 2 drms

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Denuvo alone isn't enough anymore

spare wave
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If someone cracks a game they statistically were very unlikely to buy it in the first place.

pale sigil
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Not really

latent mural
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it was sarcasm

pale sigil
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Oh xD

latent mural
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slaps mr.pleasant with a large trout

pale sigil
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I have a few friends who call me stupid for buying games so I tend to take these statements serious

latent mural
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i wish i'd stop putting cables under my keycaps

pale sigil
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I honestly torrent and trial... is feel pretty bad if I completed the game

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I either just don't like it, love it and guy it later on or buy it right away

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Then let steam update the files

latent mural
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i wait for a 50% discount/origin access

pale sigil
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Ye most of the time I do

latent mural
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y'know like cars
you don't wanna buy new, you don't

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besides, they get to fix all the bugs

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unlike your car...

spare wave
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But I can't just download a new car.

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:P

latent mural
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there are no search results for "download a car"

pale sigil
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XD

spare wave
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What?
I seriously would have thought someone already 3D printed most of the parts.

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And therefore 'downloaded' the car.

latent mural
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disposable transmission

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"i mean, it's only supposed to work once, right?"

pale sigil
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Well ye there will be people who don't want to buy games

latent mural
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that's what they say

pale sigil
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My friend couldn't even afford wallpaper engine

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So I don't judge him

latent mural
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i genuinely hear this a lot from not kids "i hate ea, i'm boycotting them" .. by continuing to never have bought any of their games, only pirate

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"i hate denuvo!" - has never bought any game in their life for more than 15 years

chrome estuary
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plus with less and less companies doing shit like 500 fucking DLCs (God damn it EA & Paradox) or stuff like no more Demos so you're not able to test a game and see if you enjoy it or not.

latent mural
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well then just wait for it to appear on the subscription or to be cheep

chrome estuary
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Something like that.

#

i think the entirety of sims 4 costs like $200

#

The entirety of Stellaris costs about 150

pale sigil
#

I hate Ubisoft xD

latent mural
#

well if you like sims you are a primary candidate for micro transactions

spare wave
#

But if you are arguing against pirating from a purely economical point of view, sales are bad too.

chrome estuary
#

I own some Ubisoft Titles (Far Cry 5, Far Cry New Dawn) but both were preordered for me as gifts.

pale sigil
#

Full confession

#

But I pre ordered shadow of war

chrome estuary
#

But Shadow of War was a good fun game with some annoying parts sure.

pale sigil
#

Then I cancelled and torrented

#

Because of micro transactions

latent mural
#

you fiend

pale sigil
#

Simply refused their greed

#

And didn't feel bad

latent mural
#

you're the sole reason why some junior dev has been hit with a staff cut

chrome estuary
#

tbh i don't care if people torrent. I know there's millions and billions of different reasons that people argue against it but to me they just fall on deaf ears.

pale sigil
#

You mean my friend?

spare wave
#

Is this still game talk?

#

Tech*

pale sigil
#

Yes

latent mural
#

denuvo is tech

spare wave
#

I mean, before it was.

chrome estuary
#

i mean we're talking about the act of torrenting games. Not exactly just talking about games.

pale sigil
#

And peer to peer

chrome estuary
#

^

pale sigil
#

Tech

chrome estuary
#

also PtP transfer can be useful for shit like Linux Distro ISOs.

spare wave
#

But now it's more about the socio-economic consequences of pirating.

latent mural
#

ok then let's start a torrent tracker with black jack and hookers who live in anonymous proxy

spare wave
#

And its morality.

pale sigil
#

I'm not exactly for torrenting, I had an argument with the people who called me stupid for buying games

latent mural
pale sigil
#

Went ape

#

And though I understand their reasons

#

It's not ethical

#

But then they counter how games publishers aren't ethical

#

Bla bla

#

It's a never ending argument

spare wave
#

Yes

chrome estuary
#

TL;DR most games I've pirated, i've got a reason as to why and usually I'll get my hands on the game later on. Like Dying Light or uh... i'm sure there's more games i've pirated that I properly own but whatever

spare wave
#

Lets get back to factual arguments that can be backed by evidence.

chrome estuary
#

but yeah so what's so good about the RTX 2060? I own a 1080 and it's a pretty bomb card.

spare wave
#

Yes it is.

#

But the 2060 isn't supposed to replace the 1080

latent mural
#

what's good is that it has a usb-c port

pale sigil
#

I don't see why it's so hype

latent mural
#

and i very specifically need one

pale sigil
#

It's the same as usual

chrome estuary
#

oh so thunderbolt over USB-C

#

neato.

pale sigil
#

New cards come out

chrome estuary
#

also i thought the 2070 was supposed to be the equal to the 1080

pale sigil
#

Small changes

ashen spindle
#

I mean almost every card from now on will have USB because of VR

spare wave
#

The 2060 is supposed to replace 1060

#

that

#

The 2060 is better for VR setups.

pale sigil
#

for sure but won't be for years

latent mural
#

Quint: well this one is the cheapest one and is not coming out half a year later

pale sigil
#

Before it becomes standard

ashen spindle
#

well depending on when amd's next gpus come out you might get them next month for cheaper

#

since some rumors say they come after CES

latent mural
#

i cant imagine that

spare wave
#

AMD is better price/performance, but NVIDIA is obviously not targeting budget people primarily anymore,

latent mural
#

june, no earlier

#

2060 says to be coming out jan 15

chrome estuary
#

I'll stick with my nvidia GPU but I shall probably stick with my Ryzen cpus now.

ashen spindle
#

ces is the week before right? so I guess you'll know by then if amd has anything sooner

latent mural
#

has no position in AMD but may initiate a small position within 72 hours

#

amd and nvidia will announce gpus on CES (over-comfirmed rumours)

pale sigil
#

Are amd gpus even relevant

spare wave
#

@pale sigil Yes.

#

For Price.

ashen spindle
#

yes, the question is up to what point

pale sigil
#

Last time I even bothered to look into them was 390

latent mural
#

well if they are finally off HBM they will

spare wave
#

Performance and Featurewise, NVIDIA is still the high-end champ. But they are more pricey.

chrome estuary
#

Yeah I bought my 1080 second hand.

latent mural
#

Asus's fancy OLED 21.6 inch portable screen is mia since last CES

#

they said they will release it Q4 2018

#

i need a portable lightweight, thin monitor of that size....

#

usb-c on video cards is here but the screen is missing!

pale sigil
#

My old monitor had USB C

#

Not old

#

One I had that died

#

Haha

#

Had to return it

latent mural
#

it exists

pale sigil
#

Say no to screen burn

chrome estuary
#

anyone know anything about Samsung's Quantum Dot monitors?

latent mural
#

go look at one in person is what i'd say about them

chrome estuary
#

pff I don't live anywhere near where one would be on display.

latent mural
#

well then don't expect any magic and that's about it

timid chasm
#

I'm iffy on oled and the potential burn, especially with games

latent mural
timid chasm
#

So yes potential burn in on long static content aka a pc monitor

latent mural
#

look again

#

well.. read

timid chasm
#

That's what I read

latent mural
#

the problem is in the 24/7 news reports

#

those have that red bar at the footer at all times

timid chasm
#

Those who display the same static content over long periods of time should consider the risk of burn-in though (such as those who watch lots of news, use the TV as a PC monitor, or play the same game with a bright static HUD).

#

So potential burn in if you leave your pc on desktop or play the same game a lot or use the same program a lot

latent mural
#

well read on then and look at the pictures

#

This test alone only demonstrates the effect of one of the use cases described above. It does not show the effect of changing between multiple sources (such as watching football 20% of the time, playing high-risk video games 50% of the time, and playing low risk video games 30% of the time).

timid chasm
#

I've read this before as they've ran the tests and posted updates I'm just saying the potential is a real thing

latent mural
#

well then we've both read it all a long time ago and made up our minds on it :p

pale sigil
#

That's pretty bad lmao

latent mural
#

it's really not that bad

#

this is 20 hours each and every day

#

and you can just make things like the taskbar black, black is no burn in \o/, and you know, hide it and stuff

pale sigil
#

@latent mural ye but I can keep my current monitor and tv on and not worry

#

I was gonna say what if you fall asleep with the TV on

#

But timers are a thing

chrome estuary
#

I use an IPS and a VA monitor and i'm scared to leave them running like that.

latent mural
#

oh come now you can buy a 1k euro monitor like that, but you still will change it or it will die well before it becomes a problem

#

that's almost like being afraid of any overclocking

#

which you are not

#

and it will most probably come with some kind of pixel dancing scheme anyway

reef patrol
#

Oh no. notlikebolb

I am now officially on Wifi only, until my dad comes around with a drill, so we can drag out new ethernet cables. This cna't be good for my Titanfall performance.

reef patrol
#

And that lasted all of 30 minutes, before I borrowed a hammer and some cable ties... The wireless is so bloody useless. Start a download in Chrome, and the entire network just folds in on itself. Zero package handling.

ashen spindle
#

yeah I thank the existance of 10m ethernet cables ever since I needed one to not use wifi too lol

reef patrol
ashen spindle
#

I had it from the box, down the stairs, then down into the basement during the summer bc I moved my pc there to not die from heat

latent mural
#

I think you forgot the uhm.. nailable cable holders

#

zoom and enhance

#

did it fall off or what

zenith mirage
#

We've got many meters of cable taped to the floors of our flat

#

And run along the skirting boards

reef patrol
#

They fell off, because there's nothing to grab onto on most of those walls.

#

The ones that DID stick went into bricks ๐Ÿ˜„

pale sigil
#

@reef patrol you play titanfall 2?

reef patrol
#

Pretty much my main game right now, yeah.

pale sigil
#

Everytime I tried playing it I could never find a game

#

I used to play with a few people from here, titanfall has a special place in my heart

reef patrol
#

Just look for any MP game. It takes about a minute or so to matchmake these days on PC.

#

There's basically only one random game mode still played - Standard "first to X points" in teams of 6? players.

tough stag
sick creek
#

What dell kb is that?

#

@tough stag

tough stag
#

@sick creek Dell AT102DW .. cause im a filthy Germ

sick creek
#

Is it usb or ps2

#

I like it. Is it membrane or mech?

#

It honestly reminds me of an ibm but with win key

tough stag
#

@sick creek Still ps2. Alps Black switches. Working on the ps2 to qmk convertor on an Arduino Micro. But i rly wanna have my Twoothing. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

#

Fun fact, the cake has no switches. But tastes infinitely better. ๐Ÿฐ

#

I wonder if i could diguise the Twooting in a Dell Frame ๐Ÿ˜‚

pale sigil
#

Ngl I didn't think I'd like my echo so much

#

@tough stag clean your desktop

#

Why are you using a tv as a monitor tho

tough stag
#

Those are all Monitors .. 2x 32" in the center 1x 35 right .. left .. old old .. dono

chrome estuary
#

I'd have a 3rd monitor but my desktop's size prohibits that unless I move it and I can't do that because my dresser is in the way.

pale sigil
tough stag
#

_ unsure weather or not that is an advertisement._

pale sigil
#

Fixed

reef patrol
#

Build log (In Danish only currently, sorry ๐Ÿ˜…) as promised earlier. Plenty of process pics, as well as a small gallery of the finished product. Quite pleased with the end result - matches my expectations and the theme nicely.

http://www.tweak.dk/forum/board1-hardware-tilbehoer/board9-casemodding/172849-projekt-cyberduck-et-cyberpunk-vandkoelings-build-fra-redaktionen/

chrome estuary
#

Is she finally done

reef patrol
#

99%. Some tiny touches to be done later.

tough stag
#

BladeRunner Reboot Themed?

reef patrol
#

Cyberpunk in general, yes.

queen sparrow
#

linux?

crude cipher
#

@tough stag I'm mildly triggered by your desktop icons

tough stag
#

@crude cipher what about them?

crude cipher
#

They're scattered everywhere

tough stag
#

Thematically grouped.

latent mural
#

ew icons

chrome estuary
#

My thinkpad compact bluetooth keyboard came in day and I like it.

chrome estuary
#

It works nicely with Android but the issue with it is that it's got the fuckin... FN and CTRL keys not swapped so I'm constantly hitting the wrong button but i'll get used to it eventually.

tough stag
#

@chrome estuary yes. Thats so annoying on thinkpads!

crude cipher
#

I still do it

pale sigil
#

I just use a 60% keeb goodnews

crude cipher
#

Glued into your thinkpad?

chrome estuary
#

haha no. It uses the same keyboard

crude cipher
#

@chrome estuary I was asking mrpleasant

chrome estuary
#

oh sorry.

toxic jolt
#

lmao

ashen spindle
#

I suppose I won't find someone here who can help with Depth Shader in Unity? rooDerp

left coral
#

Are there any python programmers online right now. I need someone to check something for me

toxic jolt
#

I did a python course in high school

#

What seems to be the issue?

left coral
#

The python docs to create the grouper function (https://docs.python.org/2/library/itertools.html#recipes) states that # grouper('ABCDEFG', 3, 'x') --> ABC DEF Gxx I take this to mean that the output is a list of three strings ["ABC", "DEF", "Gxx"] but the output is a list of tuples [("A", "B", "C"), ("D", "E", "F"), ("G")]

#

I was hoping that someone can confirm the output of the example function.

#

I always remembered that function returning a list of strings, but looking at the code, the list of tuples is correct. I believe that their documentation needs to be updates to reflect that. (It just cost me about 50 minutes in a 2 hour coding challenge for a job interview =p)

crude cipher
#

I've honestly never used that recipe

#

A lot of those recipes are pretty bad tbh

toxic jolt
#

I don't think I can help you with that one

#

stuff like that was my gripe with python

#

still is for js

#

dynamic data types will be the death of me

crude cipher
#

It's possible that izip_longest() changed but really that whole thing was pretty anti-idiomatic

toxic jolt
#

I don't think I'd ever succeed at a coding challenge

#

I take soooo long to figure stuff out

#

need to broaden my horizons anyways

#

I know a lot of places use python but i think that would kill me tbh

#

c++ to the grave

crude cipher
#

Always worrying about reading off the end of an array would worry me more

toxic jolt
#

I never seem to run into that issue but I know that's just me

crude cipher
#

I don't much run into issues with types in Python either

toxic jolt
#

fair enough

ashen spindle
#

C# for life

#

one bad thing, it is so safe and comfortable, it gets harder using a different language afterwards lmao

toxic jolt
#

also windows only

left coral
#

I thought that izip_longest may have changed as somepoint considering that I remember the grouper recipe returning a list of strings previously, but I tested old code which used that and on multiple systems incase it was a weird version issue. Sadly, my mind went to that instead of confirming that the code did what I thought the documentation said it did. When looking at the code, it's pretty clear that it's not recreating a string. My solution for the coding challenge was to have the return value do a join on each tuple. Luckily, even though I sunk around half my time into that one dumb issue, I got the rest of the challenge completed with time to spare.

timid chasm
#

You all stoked for The Mad Box!? ๐Ÿ˜›

pale sigil
#

"They've turned my computer from an innocent pc to a fucking filthy whore that's taking files from all these companies"

Best desc of the multiple launchers and stores these days

ashen spindle
#

multiple launchers = very annoying, multiple stores = very good

#

dont batch them together

pale sigil
#

@ashen spindle fite me

toxic jolt
#

he makes a good point

toxic jolt
#

"how hard can it be to set up our own store?"

#

said every triple A company ever

ashen spindle
#

nah now you are mixing it with launchers for their own stuff again

#

origin/uplay etc. is something I consider a launcher and not a real store

toxic jolt
#

launchers and games are practically the same thing at this point

pale sigil
#

i can hold your vote @digital cliff if you want PepeGoteem

toxic jolt
#

there are a couple of cases where it's not true

#

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

pale sigil
#

Im sick of having to have 2 launchers out to play siege or to play one game on each one

#

pisses me off

#

i know

#

but they are still apllications FeelsREE

#

discord is web based, wootility is web based

toxic jolt
#

you think if steam hadn't been 30% in the first place, we wouldn't have things like battle.net, origin, epic games store, etc?

pale sigil
#

everything is these days

#

BUT ITS STILL A FOOKIN APPLICATION

ashen spindle
#

yes if steam wouldn't have been asleep the last 5 years epic store would not be a thing

pale sigil
#

My issue is locking games behind launchers not the store tbh

#

So ill take that back from my original statment

toxic jolt
#

that's half of it I guess

pale sigil
#

UGH i hated original browser battlefield server browser

toxic jolt
#

you're right, if I could just download the game and run it through steam, life would be a lot easier

#

but the problem of having launchers roots mainly from having those stores

ashen spindle
#

yes it matters what steam does because 99.9% of user dont care how it works technically and if it is HTML or F# doesn't matter for them

toxic jolt
#

or whether or not they know how to make a good application?

#

cough cough origin

pale sigil
#

*steam is an application, the store and community are in containers yes

toxic jolt
#

multiplayer shouldn't need drm in the first place

ashen spindle
#

a lot of people like that it integrates screenshot ability, other community features etc.

toxic jolt
#

have an account
don't have one, can't play

pale sigil
#

You know what i hate? servers that want you to login to their site via steam to verify.

#

Like on Garry's mod etc

#

NOPE

toxic jolt
#

Steam is the only instance where I've seen enough things done right, imo everyone else does at least something big wrong

ashen spindle
#

you are not thinking about the average consumer if you think they prefer to know about prtsrc and manually upload it somewhere

pale sigil
#

Friend wanted to use my account for freebies, as soon as he said that i was like hell nah they dont need to verify my account, im on their server with a steam account

toxic jolt
#

community is done right, store and refunds are handled properly, configurability and customizability is done right

#

marketplace is done right

pale sigil
#

tbh im pro steam...

#

I hated the old ways so much.

#

I have so many CDs i cant use anymore because keys only had like 3 time activations.

ashen spindle
#

Having "forced" steam integration makes it also a lot easier for devs to add stuff that rely on steam, without having it to do twice or as a workaround for non steam users etc.

pale sigil
#

But it has the same outcome no?

#

I don't mind steam drm tbh

#

anything other i do

#

there was a quote somewhere saying if anything happened to steam they would remove the drm

#

or some shit

ashen spindle
#

well that would make them call themself a DRM and wether or not that's true, that is not a word gamers like, don't think they'll do that

#

yeah but you are in the vast minority with that

pale sigil
#

Well they are, you cant launch games without steam.

#

So its technically a DRM

ashen spindle
#

I know, didn't say they aren't, but when anyone talks about DRM USUALLY they dont mean steam, but denuvo or something similar

pale sigil
#

Oh

#

Fuck Denuvo

#

I don't understand.

#

Are you on about MP or in general

#

they do actually using steamfix in a lot of cases emulating space wars

#

BUT

#

SP games im pretty sure remove steam drm not emulate

#

why would they emulate?

#

but its not a solution

#

its a workaround

ashen spindle
#

I dont get what your actual question was vvThink

pale sigil
#

If I remember correctly

ashen spindle
#

if you bought it legally? yes, kinda like if you buy a Gameboy game but play it on Emulator

pale sigil
#

You had to use a modied steam install

ashen spindle
#

NOTE im not a lawyer and dont actually know law

#

but I think that's grey-ish/legal

pale sigil
#

Most scenes won't release emulations

#

They only release cracks

#

Unless it's denuvo and even then its rarely official releases

#

But I i know you're not talking about that

#

But thought I'd mention

#

I know

#

I literally just said fuck denuvo haha

#

I have the cracked version of shadow of the tomb raider but I haven't played it because I feel bad and want to buy it x.x

#

Once I do I'll run the cracked version

#

Cos fuck denuvo

#

Really fucked up assassins creed odyssey performance

#

With denuvo it sitters unholy for me

#

Steam isn't perfect but I'd rather use it over a million clients

#

Can we give some love to square Enix BTW

#

For shadow of the tomb raider they released a full on demo

#

Bravo to them!

#

XD I use steam chat everyday now sadly

#

I have a friend who quit everything including discord

#

So im forced to use or

#

It

#

Eh he's one of those friends I don't wanna lose communication with

#

Most others are on discord

#

I'm ready to quit Facebook, I kind of already did 3 years ago

#

I made a fake account to carry on controlling a trading group I run and family

#

If I wasn't making money I'd be done for good

#

I sell advertisement

#

I sell the cover page, pinned post and stories

#

They provide me with their advertisements

#

And I put them on there

#

You wouldn't think it lol but I make decent money

#

Tino noooooo

#

I can't see your glorious face anymore

#

Oh wait PepeGoteem

#

Brand support is what causes so many issues

#

Isn't this phone running android?

#

Because like if it's Linux ubuntu already tried this and it failed hard

#

Really hard

#

Really wish they succeeded

#

It wasn't just that

#

There wasn't any interest back then

#

Ah

#

We both said basically the same

#

It's a shame

#

I don't use my phone enough to worry about privacy

#

Ye

#

Same

#

I think about it all the time but we are so powerless

#

They win

#

I haven't given up I just accepted I can only do so much

#

As there's so much we don't know about

#

XD I used 4 minutes in last months phone usage

#

And it was calling a take away and mum once

reef patrol
#

His AI core feeds a thousand saunas.

timid chasm
#

I'm late but I don't mind another launcher so long as it doesn't run like ass

pale sigil
#

When you don't get have a good enough signal on your mobile noose

#

Reddit is life @plush summit

plush summit
#

.....

#

reddit is weird

#

so many weird subreddits

pale sigil
#

*fun

timid chasm
#

but /r/chonkers โค

pale sigil
#

oh

#

dear

#

god

plush summit
#

.......but all the weird places like r/dragonsfuckingcars r/carsfuckingdragons

pale sigil
#

pretty sure they are mostly satire but went wrong

plush summit
#

so r/buttsharpies went wrong too?

zenith mirage
#

Of course you'd know about dragon fucking

pale sigil
#

@zenith mirage im surpised you dont know, it always comes up on weird threads.

zenith mirage
#

I guess I don't see weird threads meowshrug

plush summit
#

@zenith mirage i only founds those threads through miniladd

pale sigil
#

lies

plush summit
#

prove it

#

you wont

zenith mirage
#

๐Ÿคข

pale sigil
plush summit
#

Im clean

tough stag
#

So .. the Wooting Two took too long.
So i built my own.
Am i doing it right?

latent mural
#

what

#

SAIL

sick creek
#

opinion: the black keys look like ass with the blue/white/red nautical themed keys

#

i feel like it should have white with navy letters

#

the arrow cluster is cute, but those hipster NSEW on the X is so bad

#

also whats with the grey keys? they look like they dont match the profile of their rows

pale sigil
reef patrol
pale sigil
#

Since GDDGDGDGDGDGDGDGDG thingy

reef patrol
#

I use Facebook for work and family, so I don't really see the need to delete. blobextranervous

pale sigil
#

they have to delete everything they have on you

#

upon request

#

Mansen this is an account since fbook first started becoming public

#

its old nor do i use it

#

its been deactivated for years

reef patrol
pale sigil
#

going to get them in a few days

#

FECK ME

#

$17 delivery

neat oriole
#

Idk if youโ€™d like them tbh

reef patrol
#

Then add import fees ๐Ÿ˜

pale sigil
#

i might get them locally

neat oriole
#

I feel like youโ€™d like lots of ๐Ÿ…ฑ๏ธass

pale sigil
#

and try them/return them

#

hd 650s i mean

neat oriole
#

And these donโ€™t have a lot of ๐Ÿ…ฑ๏ธass

reef patrol
#

Still waiting to hear how much my Kira keyboard will be in import bad tax ablobsweats

pale sigil
#

tbh yes but i cant handle much bass in ear anymorew

#

ears are fucked

neat oriole
#

Lol

#

Rip

pale sigil
#

i got decent speakers and sub woofer for xmas

neat oriole
#

The 6XX/650 is like the polar opposite of M50x pretty much

pale sigil
#

i keep triggering my dog

neat oriole
#

Mid focused instead of v shaped

#

Most people usually lose the ability to hear treble first

pale sigil
#

ears are constantly swelling

#

when listening to anything in general tbh

neat oriole
#

That sounds like a trip to the doctors

pale sigil
#

Already have

neat oriole
#

What did they say

pale sigil
#

They just keep telling me the same

#

Take this

#

It's really hard to go back tbh

neat oriole
#

Take this as in like a pill?

pale sigil
#

I went to the doctors the other week after spending weeks to get an appointment

#

They would only deal with one of my issues

#

So I have to make another one

neat oriole
#

Arenโ€™t there like ER

pale sigil
#

As In stuff I spray

#

You don't use ER for that

neat oriole
#

Have you tried seeing an ear specialist

pale sigil
#

Plus it's usually a 5 - 8 hour wait

neat oriole
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Yeah I figured but at least you wouldnโ€™t have to schedule weeks in advanced

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But have you gone to see an ENT

pale sigil
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It's mostly done via NHS

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Only other stuff is done via private stuff

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Like opticians and dental

neat oriole
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Yeah ENT is most likely private

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They specialize in ear related stuff

pale sigil
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Wouldn't know where to look tbh

neat oriole
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If your ear is swelling whenever you listen to something Iโ€™d say thatโ€™s worth a visit

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Just google ENT

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Should give some results

pale sigil
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As I thought it's mostly done via NHS

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So I'd probably have to wait forever haha

neat oriole
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Give them a call

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Better late than never

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You might be the first person to be allergic to sound

pale sigil
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XD more like allergic to specific genres

neat oriole
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I should probably go see an ENT doctor to get my tinnitus checked tbh

pale sigil
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What?

timid chasm
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ear nose throat doctor for ear rinding ๐Ÿ˜›

pale sigil
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I was trying to make a joke

timid chasm
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Ah, I got it now hah

solar hinge
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For when your gpu doesn't have rgb goodness yet

reef patrol
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Fancy

crimson wigeon
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Extended function keys ๐Ÿ‘Œ

reef patrol
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F23, F45, F76

chrome estuary
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It's not mine. It's just at my house because I was the one who ordered it and it was better coming to my house instead. The converter for it won't be here for another two weeks to a month so y'know... unusable until then.

solar hinge
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So for now it's just eye candy?

chrome estuary
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Yea

tough stag
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@sick creek thanks for the advice. Will try and source some white with navy lettering keycaps. For now i just grabbed what was available.

haughty condor
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Bahaha

pale sigil
toxic jolt
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he makes some good points but also some bad points

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"few developers have experience in vr"

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implying you can't drag and drop a script into unity or ue and boom it's already mostly done

pale sigil
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My unis game dev courses heavily focus on vr

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As we have a few vr labs

toxic jolt
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I'm taking one this semester on vr stuffs

plush summit
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?

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vr sucks

pale sigil
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No

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You do

plush summit
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it has a very long way to go

pale sigil
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Everyone I know including family after a second of trying have bought and never looked back

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Vr isn't as far behind as people say

plush summit
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in ordor for me to play games

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i need a 3000 cad pc

pale sigil
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No?

plush summit
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and an extra 1k for aheadset

pale sigil
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That's another common misconception

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Rift is pretty cheap

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Vr doesn't require a super computer

plush summit
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what parts will i need then

pale sigil
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You can play on a 1050ti for christ sake

plush summit
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spec me a build so i can stream with vr as well at 120 fps

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at 1050p

pale sigil
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90fps

plush summit
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spec me a build

pale sigil
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My friend plays vr on an fx 6300 with a gtx 960

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Literally

plush summit
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thats just beatsaber

pale sigil
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Also AWS is a huge thing in vr

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My friend?

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No he plays all sorts

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Just showing you this as an example

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Of the lowest

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And FYI AWS is a huge thing, even if you can't push 90fps it looks perfectly smooth you won't even notice

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Even Linus built a really old system

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And ran vr

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It's bs when people say you need a super computer

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The only time you need beefy specs of you ever want to increase the super sample pass 1.5

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So ye

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Suck a nob

toxic jolt
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Who here thinks callbacks are better than js promises

plush summit
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but.......ss makes things look nice

pale sigil
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@plush summit all it does or make it sharper, I won't deny the oculus and give are behind on res but it's fine and they are somewhat old now.... wmr I tried and the res was so nice and crisp, oculus are making a new revision, anyway vr is good and cheap and even ss you only need decent hardware for games like fallout 4 which I was running at 1.8 with a 1070 and 6600k, I was patting at 2.0

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But fallout 4 is unoptimized trash

plush summit
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only 580 here

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just above the recomended spec for vr

pale sigil
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What's 580

plush summit
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rx 580

pale sigil
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Ignore suggested specs... they shouldn't be trusted haha

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Just go off actual benchmarks etc

toxic jolt
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^^^^^^^^^^

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"high end specs"

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$300 gtx 1060

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$300 i5

pale sigil
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$300 for a 1060

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Wut

timid chasm
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Even if you overestimate both not bad

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I'm actually surprised the 9600k is under $300

pale sigil
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Someone buy me an ITX case and mobo

timid chasm
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unlikely but good luck

toxic jolt
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Are 1060s not 300 anymore?

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Frick

timid chasm
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some are but you can get them for 200-ish

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6gb for both, depends on if you want a specific version

neat oriole
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VR isnโ€™t ready yet but at least it wonโ€™t go the way of the virtual boy

pale sigil
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Lies

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@reef patrol help

ashen spindle
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VR is close to be ready imo, lower prices and more setups like the new oculus so you need less space is what is needed now, the needed space is a big issue for many people

timid chasm
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Give me full treadmill support and games that work well with it and im iinnnnnn for VR

fair gull
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one day... one day

timid chasm
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one day maybe I can feel like a true vault hunter

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linked to my pain receptors and all ๐Ÿ˜„

fair gull
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is this some sao shit

reef patrol
timid chasm
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I dont know what that is

neat oriole
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i think current VR is good enough to sustain a fan base but isn't ready to go mainstream like console gaming

reef patrol
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Personally I don't have much interest in VR outside of cockpit games, until we see the Ready Player One style threadmills.

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Or some kind of nerve implant that makes your brain think, your limbs are moving, except you're at a complete standstill.

neat oriole
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yeah but ready player one had that really dumb scene where people were running around in the streets with their VR goggles on

reef patrol
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Let's ignore those scenes haha ๐Ÿ˜„

neat oriole
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it's like how does that work

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what if they run out into the middle of the road

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or into a pillar

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or into other people

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if they die in real life do they die in the oasis?

reef patrol
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I'll chalk it down to different variants of headset, some more involved than others. I suppose the more expensive and casual models, would let you browse and move using thoughts, but have less control.

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More like a chatroom kind of interaction, than full of limb control.

pale sigil
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No one has much internest

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till they try it

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this is the issue

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it took my cousin 40 minutes

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and he instantly bought an oculus

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same case for all my friends

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and they all were like you

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hur hur its pricy, you need a super computer hur hur

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Now they are all like wow this is cheap for what it is

zenith mirage
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I mean it's okay

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I have tried it and I still think its too pricy

reef patrol
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If the next generation of mech style games support it, I'll definitely grab one, if just for the 180" degree view.

pale sigil
ashen spindle
pale sigil
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im having a twitter war with my old tutor...

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He is comparing AWS to Azure and his site was down, then he linked this and idk what to say.

ashen spindle
pale sigil
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ill give benefit of the doubt its broken or something

toxic jolt
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the vive price got slashed $200 apparently

ashen spindle
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rooThink news to me, announced just today because CES or where?

toxic jolt
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I saw on various sites

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it's just being cut everywhere

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$600 USD now

ashen spindle
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that's for some package then, the vive is/was not 800 lmao

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bc on the vive website you get the vive + controllers+ sensors for 499$

toxic jolt
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idk man I just woke up

ashen spindle
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thought I have no idea if if this is reduced bc I never looked at prices for it

crimson wigeon
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I just want Knuckles.. Valve plz

ashen spindle
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I mean it might be true, would make sense with CES, maybe there will be a big announcement and prices just got adjusted early

toxic jolt
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I had nightmares about js promises last night

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fr

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did you know that if you error a promise that's in a promise, chrome can't find the error

ashen spindle
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nope, never touched js LUL3D

toxic jolt
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love hate relationship

ashen spindle
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yeah I can imagine that

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right now im in a love hate relationship with Cg/HLSL PepeHands

misty saffron
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oh christ

toxic jolt
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whats the diff between hlsl and glsl

misty saffron
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fucking hlsl

ashen spindle
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glsl is for opengl, hlsl for directx

toxic jolt
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do they work more or less the same?

ashen spindle
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yea

toxic jolt
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makes sense.

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I gotta learn that stuff some day

ashen spindle
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different keywords mostly, float3 for a vector with 3 floats for HLSL, vec3 in glsl etc

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matrix multiplication works with mul(A,B), or just with * in the other etc.

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but the majority of time you just do math anyway

toxic jolt
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to save processing time?

ashen spindle
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well what else do you want to do? Graphics boil down to numbers

toxic jolt
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that's what scares me

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I'm beyond awful at math lol

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gotta get into it to see if I could have a future in graphics

ashen spindle
misty saffron
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just get me a gaussian blur hlsl shader and i'll love you till the end

ashen spindle
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I mean depending on how exactly you want that, it sounds not difficult

misty saffron
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i got no bloody idea how shaders are supposed to work internally

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looked at one, thought "fuck that", quit

ashen spindle
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remind me mid february and I'll gladly help you if you still need one

misty saffron
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i would assume that is real

pale sigil
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Ooft

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This gonna be good

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Real good

misty saffron
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guess we'll know in a bit