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#🔌│tech
latent mural
sturdy crater
This says nothing about input lag
latent mural
it's probably TN so the input lag will be fine too
sturdy crater
I've seen some tn panels with pretty bad input lag
Just get better internet or use one of those ping booster things
Meant ping but should basically do what you need for games
Given your internet isn't absolute shit
Sounds like you have shit internet
Did you get sold by the door salesmen
Because for some reason Canada has door to door salesmen for internet
I'm pretty sure bell was the one doing door to door sell
What's your speed like?
And are you actually close to the fibre line?
If your speeds are constant 150 you're probably pretty close to it I would guess
But wiring to house may want to be replaced if constant packet loss
Ps: you have tried replacing the network cable right?
And using different ports?
Does the modem/router ever just turn off/go out?
toxic jolt
I used CRU before and its great
you have to play around with it to get what you want but it's great
I've done it to overclock monitors and such
toxic jolt
So what about that raytracing accelerated AA?
I think that's an amazing idea
Edge detected then instead of regular subsampling, you just fire a couple raytraces into that spot
Boom
It's a way you can have your cake and eat it too
The cake being raytracing, and still being able to run games at reasonable framerates
reef patrol
GTX and not RTX at that if rumors are true.
ashen spindle
would make sense for it to not be rtx
maybe not anymore with the next generation, but 2060 doesn't have enough power to raytrace
tall finch
I mean, that would be the point of the RT cores, yeah? to accelerate ray tracing b/c the GPU isnt powerful enough to do it
latent mural
those rt cores will do close to nothing for the life of the card anyway
tall finch
it just seems to me like you would want some number of RT cores on as many GPUs as possible, especially since the X60 cards tend to move a lot of units
but idk nvidia gets greedy too often
toxic jolt
depends on what nvidia's goal really is
obviously they believe strongly in the RT cores, because they released a 80ti variant with EVEN MORE RT cores
but as recent benchmarks show, raytracing light and shadows is just too much for even the 80ti to handle
so maybe they're trying to slow down the pace of the whole raytracing world domination thing, to let developers come back with appropriate responses to technology
like RT accelerated AA
:3
just a thought tho
raytracing has a lot more potential than most give it credit for
not just feature-wise, but performance-wise, and especially for existing tech
imagine a massive BR game where all bullet physics were client side. what if you could program the game so that your card could handle that
that way you wouldn't experience any slowdowns from gunfire
toxic jolt
ik I'm just throwing stuff out there
Oooooooooooooooooo
imagine portal or portal 2 with raytracing for the image through the portal
you could have distortion and stuff in it
all the reflections could go through it as well
latent mural
imagine the lag
toxic jolt
but with rtx?
i mean it'd totally break your framerate once you got close enough to it
but you get my point
we can offload graphical tasks to the RT units in order to provide a smoother framerate
I still think my RTAA idea is perfect
if I was any good at development and stuffs, I would totally but an rtx asap, develop it, then try to sell it to nvidia
or make it open source, idrc
or would it be RTAAA
that starts to get kinda long 🤔
reef patrol
Physics client side had been done for years 
toxic jolt
usually with some sort of server-side verification
csgo has client size physics but it doesnt actually counter for anything that's not player movement iirc
toxic jolt
it blocks you from using resolutions outside of the interfaces bandwidth
that's where CRU lets you go beyond
I was able to get HDMI 1.4 running at 132hz@720p or something iirc
this was a while ago tho so idr remember
that's all still within the rated bandwidth tho
I cant remember the numbers rn but with HDMI 1.4, you can go to like 90 on 1080p
120 with 720p iirc
so the interface has a specific bandwidth limit, and if you try to cross it, nivida tells you no
same with intel and amd
but with CRU, it'll let you do whatever you want
actually it was 720 I was doing at 132hz, it was like that weird resolution
1336x768
thats what it was
still tho
you can get some pretty janky stuff
I have a pic somewhere
one min
not reasonably
tall finch
looks good
latent mural
@proud nacelle you must clear the EDID contents and then leave just one resolution setting to be your default one
toxic jolt
the thing with CRU is you just have to mess with it until it works
some data sent through inputs is redundant
in my case, I would have to tell it to override the resolution in two different spots
pale sigil
i just got my samsung phone back... for some reson they replaced all the parts and used the original chasis
reef patrol
pale sigil
i think they even replaced the motherboard
im so unsure
my old phone was in such prestine condition
i legit cant tell
if they gave me a new phone
tis really confusing... they replaced the OS with bloatware one and removed bootloader, the current one says nothing about being knox tripped however when booting up it says its rooted when its not... they replaced the screen, home button and well the power port... so weird.
sellout
tall finch
its time for SKYRIM
fervent plaza
I wish
pale sigil
its the elder scrolls blade game
fervent plaza
Twitter
pale sigil
cough been a thing for years cough
fervent plaza
I'm just waiting for ninja to jump on stage now
pale sigil
lmao
plush summit
apple: "whatever we make, you'll buy it anyway"
neat oriole
im actually excited for system wide dark mode
plush summit
i was so sad when android went from the dark theme to the light theme
neat oriole
but that was announced months ago
i mean i guess the new colours are neat
i guess 120 hz on a phone is neat
plush summit
r a z e r p h o n e
tall finch
the iPhones are just 120hz "touch sensing"
idk what that means but I would buy a real 120hz iphone instantly
the ipad pro with 120hz screen is phenomenal
it just feels smoooooth
you notice it more once you stop using it and realize how "un-smooth" 60Hz is
plush summit
well
when i can get a graphics card that can output 144 fps for a decent cost......then i will go ahead and buy a 144 hz monitor
high refresh rate displays should be standard already, IPv6 should be standard already, biometrics should be standard for security.........(purely oppinion)
tall finch
I really hoped that after the ipad pro Apple would start to trickle the 120Hz screen into other stuff
but then again I hoped the Macbook would cause them to take up USB C faster too
I was wrong on both lol
hard thicket
well the 120hz display in such a dimension would be quite power inefficient
except it's an Oled, but i doubt that there are any oled panels with such a high refreshrate out there
i just want an 1440p 144hz oled monitor, so i can die in peace
pliant tulip
this years iPhones are disappointing at best
I'm sticking with my X for another year
I don't care about a faster chip
faster Face ID is nice, but I'm not spending £1.1k for that
timid chasm
No doubt. Unless something awful goes wrong I'll likely have my pixel 2xl for another 5+ years
pliant tulip
I prefer to upgrade every 2 years
I get psychologically tired of carrying the same phone for prolonged periods of time
2 years is the sweet spot
I had 5S, then 6S and now X
ashen spindle
still have my 6splus and see no reason to upgrade lol
timid chasm
lol psychologically tired of carrying the same phone
pliant tulip
I change my set of suits like yearly lol
a good amount of them are just collecting dust in the wardrobe
I just like wearing suits
I don't know how to wear anything else
I don't know who barney stinson is
pale sigil
@ashen spindle as soon as my s7 was repaired I was so happy to move away from the 6s plus I borrowed
pale sigil
No it's not about not liking it
It runs like shit
I have to use a powerbank all day
I can't do shit on ios
It's horrible
Oh and the size
It's been hell
I have an ipad and the only reason I can deal with it is because I have to jailbreak it for a basic change
Idk how I used to like ios
I do love my ipad tho ❤️ with jailbreak anyway
pale sigil
Was going to say pretty much sure I used pay on ios 14
11
Also you cba bypass that
Can
pliant tulip
not from what I've read
pale sigil
I do it for my ipad
I think atm it's still being worked on for ios 11
Even so I just use the browser anyway
Even on my phone
But anyway you shouldn't I've to jailbreak an iPhone to do basic shit
Because they have jailbreak detection
It's stupid
Fuck knows is what I'm saying
Probably think there's a security risk
It's the same on android too
They block rooted phones however on android it takes 1 click to bypass
tall finch
What kind of things do people even jailbreak for these days
crimson wigeon
Which doesn't make much sense, why am I allowed to do banking on my PC that I have "full control" on?
pale sigil
Whaf do people use it for? Basic tweaks, I use mine to change my theme, font, YouTube app tweaks and some general
Or to just see my files
pliant tulip
yeah, I don't care about any of the tweaks etc anymore
especially when it makes upgrading the OS so painful
pale sigil
It doesn't though xD at least on android
takes 0 effort and doesn't impact performance
All these tweaks are prey much built into android
ashen spindle
Wait what you had battery issues? @pale sigil how much were you using it? I like it because I never have to use a powerbank
pale sigil
It's not just me because mum and my sister use s7s
They are always plugging it in
I was just using it for discord
Literally
ashen spindle
That’s weird
pale sigil
Not really
Every iPhone I've owned
My mother and sister owned
And my friends are all the same
Considering how small the damn battery is
It makes sense
ashen spindle
I mean I never have battery issue so to me it is weird
pale sigil
Probably because you barely use it
But you can't tell me you actively use it and don't need to charge it at least twice
Just messenger drains my mums battery from 20% to 5% in no time
ashen spindle
Well I never used messenger so there’s one big difference
timid chasm
messenger lite
Or just tell them to get Pixel 2 xl's. It's battery has been great for me
fickle ore
what cheap smartie phone should I buy?
I need to call and watchapp and sms
and browse porn
pale sigil
@fickle ore honor phones
fickle ore
how cheap we talkin
plush summit
And two years of guaranteed updates
fickle ore
o wait, long battery life the better
plush summit
600 bucks (cad) Max
tall finch
doesnt Amazon sell some really cheap phones with ads on the lockscreens
idk if they're good or not
I remember one of them was loaded with chinese spyware lol
pale sigil
fickle ore
very good price thanks
plush summit
That is if you plan to go years without support
pale sigil
you have 2 years warrenty by law
in the EU anyway
1 year everywhere else
buy it off amazon and they will support you for up to 4 years
plush summit
The phone's probably already obsolete after the first two
fickle ore
lol m8 I use phone for 10 yeaars
fickle ore
how can it become obsolete when you can call some1? 😄
pale sigil
i dont game on my s7
fickle ore
dont care about perf, all I want is max betteory life
pale sigil
only reason i have it is because i got it for 250 quid brand new 😄
vargain
i was originally going to get an honor phone
fickle ore
ahh
whats wrong with honors otherwise if not budget?
Im looking at Nokia 3.1 with android one
pale sigil
they are more the higher end in low end
pale sigil
stick your own rom on
pliant tulip
if you're concerned about privacy you should get a blackberry
pale sigil
why they just run android now
fickle ore
Ok Im getting that nokia 3.1 thanks dawds
ashen spindle
if you're concered about privacy get a pixel, they won't expect you to hide something on a google phone 
pliant tulip
that's not how it works
timid chasm
or succumb to the fact that humanity is doomed and the powerful have become too powerful and that won't change until we're wiped from existence and evolve again
crimson wigeon
I just can't get over how slow it is, when did it become acceptable for websites to be this sluggish
oldreddit4lyfe
toxic jolt
I haven't noticed any slow downs but that's probably a me thing
pale sigil
Well, ugh geforce now, thats a good thing?
hard thicket
that's quite ridiculous
do you have the bandwidth of the UNI all for yourself ?
or are you actually sitting next to the server
damn
toxic jolt
he has ascended, that's what
hard thicket
you know what, i even belive that.
because that's so good, that it became unrealistic
zenith mirage
wot
timid chasm
damn, Newegg had a refurb MSI 1070 today for 175 bucks. I like where GPUs are headed
pale sigil
refurn tho
timid chasm
love refurbs
for 175 its worth taking the chance
my 1060 was a refurb and my curved monitor is a refurb as well.
I think my mouse is too
timid chasm
obviously you won't get the full warranty that's expected. some still give a decent warranty though. I think EVGa is a year for refurb gpus
reef patrol
Erh... Refurbished products have full warranty in the EU.
tall finch
does anyone have a Pixel
zenith mirage
Trying to set up a server at half 2 in the morning is fun
That's not even as loud as it was. Fingers crossed nobody else in the building can hear it
Why at half 2? Idk, it just struck us at midnight to give it a bash.
Is it an HP server? Idk, not mine, think it's IBM.
What for? Media and games I think; although i'm starting to think the real reason is to drive me insane
Oh man it was as loud as a jet. Giving it a bash is a saying in the UK -idk where you are- but it's like giving it a shot
So we're basically just trying to see where we can get with it
Before we give up and throw it out a window
now we're talking
Idk even know why we're trying at this point
I think it's just to see if we can
Yeah. I mean the guy we got it from was just giving all this stuff away
Got all this stuff too
All wrapped up in a blurry photo
There's like switches, hardware firewalls, PSUs, heaps of these server blades
Although we did have to find some old refurbished IMB drives since only they would work with it
This was just some dude loving with him mum trying to get rid of as much hardware as possible. We only saw what was downstairs in his house, apparently upstairs was even more full. But that was a rare find, second hand hardware market here sucks, especially on the local level
Well that never helps
zenith mirage
It's not SATA. Pretty sure they're IDE
Plus there's no USB interfaces on this thing and we don't have any way to adapt any
sturdy crater
@proud nacelle you realise there are recycling centers as well as big warehouses in Canada that will sell older workstation computers right? As for the price of new hardware.. Not as bad as some other countries at least
Also the used market isn't that horrible in Canada anyway.. Not as good as some places in the states but not horrible.
But I guess it does all depend what part of canada
Also I think I saw a couple older elite books that ship internationally
timid chasm
@tall finch does it have to be an original pixel? I have a 2xl
tall finch
I was just wondering what ppl thought about them and if they had good ROM support
Debating swapping from my iPhone X+t mobile to a Pixel+Project Fi
halcyon moss
I also have a pixel 2 xl, have not tried to put a custom rom on it.
I heard its hard because of the dual partition stuff or something
pale sigil
no reason to.
Stock rom 🤷
You should have seen HTC, they had multiple particans lol
tall finch
I'm more interested in custom ROM support after Google drops official support tbh
halcyon moss
I miss my G1/desire z/one
pale sigil
idk about you guys, but i dont really keep anything sensative on my phone, i come home, auto backup to nas an delete anything.
tall finch
I've got a nexus 6 on 9.0 cuz some people won't let it die lol
pale sigil
@tall finch I can understand that, but these days ROMs aren't as required as usual.
Most phones support 3-4 version now right?
halcyon moss
hah, no
halcyon moss
Pixel 2 gets 3 years of updates, we'll see
pale sigil
Samsung S7s last update was oreo
halcyon moss
super late though, but stable
tall finch
It seems like Samsung got their crap together mostly now,at least compared to the old days
halcyon moss
yes, true, but some ppl then complain about being google's beta testers :p
pale sigil
Anyway, i dont personally care anymore, i used to do it a lot with my older phones, roms every other day.. hell i was installing a new rom while eating food at disneyland florida
xD
but these days Oreo is fine for me.
Ye, last few years have been a sweet spot for phones.
But now we are at our limit.
Were we just stick in specs for the sake of it.
halcyon moss
meh, they still feel slow often :/
harsh terrace
I'm the master race now
pale sigil
Like, i wiped my phone and it was like brand new, still is now.
Just dont have shitty apps too
hard thicket
It all depends on what are you using your phone for
pale sigil
@harsh terrace 1070ti in 2018 lul
halcyon moss
ever tried gmaps? -_-
pale sigil
Google Maps is fine for me.
harsh terrace
Budget
pale sigil
Use it all the time.
halcyon moss
yeah ofcourse it is fine
but it is one of the app which takes the longest to start and still stutters when scrolling
pale sigil
@harsh terrace im kidding btw, i have no gpu atm
harsh terrace
xd
halcyon moss
Looks like an awesome kit Dommy, i wish i had a 1070Ti 😉
harsh terrace
oof
halcyon moss
Have fun assembling, and sweat in terror trying to turn it on first time
halcyon moss
pale sigil
why not AIO?
hard thicket
i hope you'll enjoy your first bluescreen
pale sigil
what ryzen is that
hard thicket
AIO requires a decent case
halcyon moss
heh, my case is black, closed and silent
pale sigil
why not a 7700k
halcyon moss
are the ram prices going down?
harsh terrace
Bcus fuk intel
tall finch
Intel in 2018 🙉
hard thicket
ryzen is more future proof right now
pale sigil
They are still better 😂
hard thicket
since they stick to the same chipset for years
pale sigil
tho it makes sense to go ryzen
halcyon moss
competition is good
tall finch
the only intel chip to buy is the 8700k imo
pale sigil
i just always wanted an i7 and i said fuck it
tall finch
at least in the US
everything else is either slower or more expensive than the AMD equal
hard thicket
AM4 will be supported for the next 3ish years or so
harsh terrace
^
pale sigil
The only thing it does better is core count programs.
zenith mirage
Get all those threads
harsh terrace
8 cores, 16 threads, what else do you need
zenith mirage
For the price, AMD made sense to me
hard thicket
especially if you do editing
zenith mirage
So I got a 1600
pale sigil
Better performance?
hard thicket
or streaming
pale sigil
thats what i need x1D
halcyon moss
modded minecraft does better cpus with high single thread performance, which is intel :p
harsh terrace
Yes, I bought it to have higher FPS in Minecraft on shaders
pale sigil
i get 400fps on ftb boyo
hard thicket
you know how old the 8350 is
pale sigil
Yes but the 8350 is still pretty decnt
hard thicket
and when it got released it was actually one of the best
tall finch
meme cpu
halcyon moss
no, no more memes allowed
hard thicket
8350 is the overclocking monster
halcyon moss
triggered
tall finch
fx line was for intel haters and amd fanboys(same thing usually lul), everyone else was better served by Intel tbh
and maybe other markets where intel has shitty pricing
pale sigil
Jokes aside aye its more logicial to go AMD these days.
tall finch
but from the US perspective it was baaaaaads
pale sigil
but tbh, intel still out performs for the average user
pale sigil
AMD gpus are a meme aye
pale sigil
if i could id make a new build with ryzen
i have been tempted to sell all of my shit
make an itx ryzen build
tall finch
I'm just waiting for the 3000 series and I'll probably finally go Ryzen
pale sigil
The sad fact is.
I got my ram when it was still new.
Skylake launch.
And its not super fast
tall finch
my first real PC build I got suckered into DDR3-1066
hard thicket
ahh good old DDR3
hard thicket
well you wont gain that much of a performance
tall finch
what a time for RAM prices that was
hard thicket
atleast not in gaming
pale sigil
thats the thing.
I think its weird people go for high ram.
When 90% of the time they dont need it
pale sigil
HyperX Fury Black 16GB (8GB x2 Kit) DDR4-2133MHz
tall finch
it does help with FPS in CPU-limited situations but most games arent gonna be CPU limited all that often
pale sigil
tis what i got
hard thicket
well the improvement is minor
pale sigil
have a guess
tall finch
now the price is harder to justify but back in the ol' DDR3 days it was actually pretty cost effective
pale sigil
@harsh terrace How much did you get your kit for
harsh terrace
7255 zł ~ 1687 €
pale sigil
I see all your budget went to 970 evo
harsh terrace
W/o case
pale sigil
im on about the ram
harsh terrace
And yea, I decided to raise the budget and go for evo
pale sigil
Guess how much my 16gb kit was @harsh terrace @hard thicket @tall finch
hard thicket
200
pale sigil
guess in pounds
harsh terrace
Man fuck pounds, I already have problems with € currency value
tall finch
how many britbux was it
pale sigil
£62 :p
tall finch
nice
pale sigil
it was way before the craze
pale sigil
hard thicket
okay thats hella cheap
pale sigil
yup
hard thicket
damn
hard thicket
well that was long ago
tall finch
I remember looking at DDR4 during skylake era and thinking "wtf why are ram prices so high" b/c they were like 50% more than DDR3
FeelsBadMan
pale sigil
this very place https://www.ebuyer.com/743587-hyperx-fury-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-2133mhz-cl14-dimm-black-memory-kit-hx421c14fb2k2-16
hard thicket
yeah alot of people didn't upgrade because of the ram prices
there were lot of disscusions if its worth the upgrade from ddr3
hard thicket
yup indeed
but the 8350 is still going
my backup rig has one build in, bottlenecks slightly the 1000series
but works
halcyon moss
man im still on a i5 4xxx something
tall finch
its weird to me to think that ppl still use Phenom II's even though the newest ones were basically as good as the fx stuff lol
halcyon moss
phenom 2 was.. bad
pale sigil
its unreal, my h100i struggles with 5ghz
tall finch
gotta delid
hard thicket
maybe its the case airflow ?
pale sigil
people still use intel hd
hard thicket
did you play around with it
hard thicket
ouch carefull with that
pale sigil
ever
tall finch
its so easy if you buy one of those tools to do it
tall finch
I used a rubber mallet and it was scary
hard thicket
i know plenty of people that ruined the cpu with their first attempt
tall finch
I tested my method on a g3258 before I delidded my 4770k lol
hard thicket
i hope for your success then
pale sigil
@wraith cove got a new beast of a laptop, delid it and fucked it up.
raid, you can re lid
i thought it was 1 way
tall finch
ye you can its just sketchy-ish
if you do a bad job its literally worse than before
but then I guess you just pop that thing back off and go again
my IHS just sits in the socket tbh, wasnt worth the effort to seal it back up
just have to remember when I remove the socket cover or the whole thing falls out
tall finch
I dropped my temps by like 20C and pushed way more voltage through mine after
idk what a 7700k can do at stock vs delid
pale sigil
i get like 75-80c under load
even at 3.8ghz in some cases
tho i blame that on most likely an airflow issue
When i get my 1080ti im rebuilding my entire system
with my 6600k i was also at super low temps so i never bothered with much airflow
tall finch
I have a custom loop now, but when I had a noctua nh d15 I couldnt push it past 1.34v-ish without hitting 100C before delid
after delid I put 1.45v through it and it doesnt get anywhere close to 90C, let alone actual throttle points
not a safe voltage btw b4 anyone tries to get smart with me
hard thicket
oh well 1.45v is pretty high
tall finch
1.45v is basically "probably not quick death but uh good luck"
pale sigil
My 1070 fried itself Noisi
hard thicket
how did you managed that
pale sigil
So i lent my friends gpu for feed the beast xD anything else i use geforce now
tall finch
and despite all my voltage i cant get my 4770k past 4.3Ghz 😢
pale sigil
I wish people would stop assuming its my fault -_-
its EVGAs fault for releasing a dud gpu
halcyon moss
🤔
gritty sigil
cant you just replace the fans on those pretty easily
pale sigil
hard thicket
lol
gritty sigil
as long as the chip itself hasn't been borked
pale sigil
its the chip itself that fried
gritty sigil
damn
pale sigil
gritty sigil
i just bought a 1080 from zotac like a week ago, knowing that the fans would probably blow out like they do on the zotacs a lot, so I was just planning on replacing them when they screw up
pale sigil
nothing to do with the fans
gritty sigil
i mean like the whole fan mount, heatsink, etc
pale sigil
gritty sigil
all you have to worry about is actually making sure your GPU cuts off if it gets to bad temps, then if anything but the chip screws up ur fine
pale sigil
Ye.. i woke up to 80c idle
lmao
took it out and saw it burnt
i wish i took pics of under the backplate
but i nevvr
gritty sigil
I've only had 2 burning PC incidents iirc and funnily enough 1 was a monitor and the 2nd was a speaker
pale sigil
shame, missed oppertunity
hard thicket
sweet
pale sigil
so the refund does not cover a new card
with the current market
xD
and i thought fuck it
may as well gtet a 1080 ti
so come 17th im getting a 1080ti
as they have dropped a lot
gritty sigil
I saved up to buy a wooting one and a gtx 1080 but only my gtx 1080 has arrived because USPS lost my wooting one ;_;
hard thicket
i'll go straight to the new series when it drops
if the improvement is large enough
pale sigil
Did you contact USPS? if you have any issues please contact social@wooting.nl
usually USPS will sort it out.
gritty sigil
I'm going to contact USPS in a few days, judging by the tracking the same thing happened to this as happened to another package that was "In-Transit" every day for an entire year and then disapeared
pale sigil
@hard thicket ye, the price does not justify it at all
i am waiting for benchmarks before i decide tho
gritty sigil
I should get insurance from USPS and buy a second one worst case, but it will still take forever
pale sigil
but for 550 quid a 1080ti seems logical
@hard thicket https://imgur.com/a/XCEqvww
i took the actual plate off
and it was burnt underneeth
hard thicket
it must have been loud
pale sigil
i sadly did not take a photo
hard thicket
when it popped off
pale sigil
i put it back in and it just kept crashing etc
maxed out i was getting 70c
xD
thanks to a disussion here was the only reason i noticed it before anything bad happened.
I was saying how low idle temps are
im still a huge fan of evga
their cooling is solid this issue aside
they did recall them
gritty sigil
i have an evga motherboard that is serving me pretty well aside from having an lga1366 socket
so i basically have no chance of replacing my cpu without getting a new motherboard
fervent plaza
thank!
hard thicket
It was a sacrifice
wraith cove
The next sacrifice is a razer blade
pale sigil
tall finch
thats a lot of damage
gritty sigil
even worse, try explaining to your ISP that you have high ping
gritty sigil
I've never even known anybody thats spoken to an ISP rep that knows what latency is
pale sigil
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
gritty sigil
and every time my internet cuts out i have to go through the whole process of
"ok now restart your router and PC for me"
make sound by hitting desk "done"
"ok thank you"
pale sigil
honestly, gonna make them replace my wiring as a last resort
becasue thats how far they will go
they wont listen to me
they make me sound crazy
if it takes an engineer to come out... so be it
toxic jolt
LOL
pale sigil
Is who what
Oh I thought I was in a different channel again, you meant the quote
Yes it's my jsl
Isp
timid chasm
its the ASUS on newegg?
pale sigil
timid chasm
newegg had one for about that price I think it was an ASUS maybe was an MSI
timid chasm
that vats a killer
pale sigil
Great
Router isn't working
My router I think has legit died
All i want to do
is have a nice evening
to chill
its all i want.
router is fine, for some reaosn i had to manually change my local ip.
Also i need a new gpu
sick of this shit
neat oriole
Nice minecraft mod
pale sigil
been really looking forward to this
but because my connection is utter shit
geforce now is unusable
neat oriole
Epic minecraft shader
haughty condor
There's been a bunch of refurb $150 1070's here
reef patrol
No numbers for now. Only the unbox NDA ended.
timid chasm
fuckin NDAs
toxic jolt
lol
plush summit
He wasn't unboxing RTX cards
The shirt is a troll, he's talking about a switch
Pretty cool switch as well... But still a switch
hard thicket
i mean.. come on
just the title proved it already
that it was a joke
the day the GPU's get released, youtube fills up with reviews
or benchmarks-
ashen spindle
those are still only nvidias numbers so eh
pale sigil
Idk if its worth getting a 2080 xD
ashen spindle
wait 4 more days for reviews and we'll know
pale sigil
Ye I am haha
hard thicket
and i assume all those numbers are on a non-OC state
i'd like to know what you can juice out of the 2080
pale sigil
Considering nvidia are bragging about their one button oc
Wouldn't surprise me
Tho evga have been doing that for years
ashen spindle
keep in mind reference cards already have some OC and these numbers are most likely with reference cards
pale sigil
I've seen the weirdest thing this generation
People are saying founders cards are usually more expensive than reference
No they aren't xD
ashen spindle
well thats hard to say because the definiton of what they are changes every card generation lmao
pale sigil
Usually they are more underpowered too
ashen spindle
compared to what?
ashen spindle
well it's true that the founders cards had a higher price than the MSRP for the 10xx cards
ashen spindle
LOOOL they disabled all the comments
pale sigil
why whats happened now
plush summit
"your mother board will come with a cpu applicator to fit the cpu into the slot/holder"
pushes on the bottom of the cpu with a piece of plastic
pale sigil
time code?
ashen spindle
they applied way to much thermal paste on the CPU and removed the spill later without showing or saying it in the video aswell
plush summit
yeah XD
ashen spindle
when you dont even need to change paste on coolers
plush summit
and they avoided dual channel mem setup XD
ashen spindle
they' probably heard once that thermal paste is bad and thought its the one on coolers and not the one below the IHS LUL
plush summit
@pale sigil just watch the vod XD
ashen spindle
the anti static wrist they use to protect shit also isn't plugged in so it doesn't protect shit
plush summit
"place the power supply on the pads so it doesn't connect with the case and short-circuit the pc"
plush summit
daddy?
ashen spindle
it's not a how to, it's a video where someone makes a pc and fortunately nothing and nobody died
pale sigil
i have never used anti static wrist thing in my life
plush summit
yeah
ashen spindle
yeah it's not needed for everything
but if you make a how to and show how to use one, use it properly
not use it in a way it's not doing shit
ashen spindle
well it's not for that situation...
pale sigil
i know
plush summit
"molex to sata, lose your data"
pale sigil
i just wanted to say that xD
plush summit
either way......that is how NOT to build a pc
the fact it even posted ............miracle
ashen spindle
and how NOT to make a how to video you were sponsored to do
pale sigil
Since when was this a thing verge did
i know they write about tech
but a video like this o.0
ashen spindle
couple days ago
plush summit
Published on 14 Sep 2018
ashen spindle
after someone from verge recently said tech youtubers are not journalists so the tech channels all made fun of this
pale sigil
$2000 PC
Very intensive game to run
LOL
1080p
plush summit
ikr XD
pale sigil
LOL they disabled like ratio
pale sigil
comments i can accept
ashen spindle
it had more dislikes than likes pretty quick
latent mural
There's not enough silliness in that verge video
i want my money back
ashen spindle
well they needed to make it look like they know what they do or the sponsor probably wouldn't have given them money for the video lol
latent mural
I'd kill for 40% more single core performance over 6700k
tall finch
I feel like I've become a meme
I've swapped from an iPhone X to a 5S and I dont see how people live without 3D touch
I tried Android and its still lacking
like I'm using a mouse without a middle click
haughty condor
I do really appreciate 3dtouch on my MacBook
haughty condor
Yeah
tall finch
yeah you press harder and it does different stuff
the most useful is on links and such you can preview it in a window before you open the page
and it's noticeably faster than normal browsing
and on some apps you can press on the icon and you'll get like a set of quick options which can be useful
its absurdly useful but apparently no one uses it but me
toxic jolt
I hate that feature so much
I can't click with those laptops
you try to click and it'll double click
or right click or something lol
probably just a me thing
sturdy crater
Eh there's a city that offers gigabit for like 15 quid so.. Not completely insane
pale sigil
"What happens next?
We hope you'll carry on enjoying everything with us. But if you want to, you can change or cancel your package at any time before 31st October, without paying any cancellation fees. Visit here to find out more."
Oh oh oh oh
@sturdy crater UK it costs around £40+
pale sigil
@pliant tulip https://youtu.be/Ol3LhKQJC1U
timid chasm
hrm
apparently I need insulators for my psu so it doesn't come in contact with the case 🤔
😂
reef patrol
wat
crimson wigeon
That... doesn't make sense, isn't the case meant to be grounded and the PSU helps with that?
ashen spindle
it's from the how to build a pc from the verge, that's how bad it was
reef patrol
ashen spindle
you'll regret it if you do
unless you want to make fun of it, there's just too much wrong
latent mural
too much but not enough to bother watching
watch an edit or something
timid chasm
haha, I figured that'd get an interesting response
reef patrol
My response.
plush summit
@digital cliff and how does it make you feel
latent mural
harsh terrace
Hi guys, I suppose you may know what can possibly be wrong here:
Before I flashed the BIOS, CPU was at stable ~47°C. Fan operated normally.
I flashed the BIOS and suddenly the temperature started to raise up to 56°C, increased fan speed a lot (very audible) and temperature drops to 40°C. Repeating like every minute or two.
I already tried messing around fan speed/temp ratios in BIOS to stabilise the temperature but it keeps happening regardless.
I've replaced the thermal paste, but results are nearly the same.
Could it be a problem in voltage getting increased after bios update? Currently it's around 1.36 V and tends to randomly spike to 1.43 V.
Ryzen 7 2700X
In HWMonitor voltage is between 0.7 - 1.5
ashen spindle
uhh I'd say lower the fan curve somewhere? not like 56C is much thought it is high for idle
also what tool do you use to get the temperatures?
harsh terrace
Basic monitor things in UEFI and HWMonitor when in Windows
ashen spindle
56 on ever core or just on some?
harsh terrace
I only see one temperature output in HWMon
ashen spindle
use HWinfo64 then, shows you temperature for every core
bc it could just be one sensor having an issue or so
harsh terrace
To have the latest version installed
And it was really outdated
I see only one temperature sensor in HWinfo64 @ashen spindle
tall finch
are you using auto voltage in bios?
ashen spindle
only one? not something like this https://gyazo.com/fe9a9a24f4a7e5247f5b3375c57f1e71 ?
ashen spindle
well if his was old it definitely didn't have any spectre/meltdown patches
tall finch
I'm not up on the proper voltages for Ryzen but auto-voltage does nothing but cause problems in my experiences
harsh terrace
I'll change the fan curve as for now and see how temperatures stand
ashen spindle
yeah I'm kinda confused why it's only showing general temps, maybe it's a low end board with basically no sensors?
ashen spindle
spikes to above 1.5? yikes
harsh terrace
Since I've never done this, what should I do here?
reef patrol
Yeah.... look up guides. Several. One mistake and you fry the board 😄
Gotta learn what the limits are and stay below - And how to increase things in small increments.
zenith mirage
£300 spent on a new phone + accessories. 1/3rd of my pay gone in 5 minutes thanks to a dodgy Brazilian man 
sturdy crater
That's nothing compared to how much others have spent on their phone
pale sigil
@sturdy crater yes but I think he's more self aware than others and won't spend more :p
No one needs a new phone every year
zenith mirage
Yeah dude. I could spend a whole month's wages on a phone, but why would I? It was a good phone at a good price
fickle ore
Infact yes ;p
pale sigil
fickle ore
220 euros
fickle ore
its kind of set and forget phone so I want android one yeah so I dont need to tinker with the spyware
aww : (
I dont think they sell it here either. They only sell 6.1 but I think its different than the 6.1 plus
fickle ore
thought I saw it on amazon uk
heey
whats different with android One 8.1 and Android 8.0 One?
Can the other be updated to 8.1?
pale sigil
The hawai?
fickle ore
roots?
Have not, sorry
dont really want to overclock etc and Android One shouldnt have pre-installed crap atleast to my knowledge. Are there other benefits?
pale sigil
I haven't had the need to root in years
zenith mirage
I had the Huawei P20 lite. Just bought the duel sim version (which I didn't know existed)
plush summit
So I just ran through the rest of the verge video on how to build a PC and I've come up with a list of things that they've done wrong
ashen spindle
let me guess, as many points on your list as they make in the video? 
plush summit
-and they said it worksheet is necessary on most surfaces
-you do not need a tool to apply thermal paste to CPU
-you do not need an allen wrench
-you do not use tweezers to tighten up the wires
-just use a regular screwdriver instead of a Swiss Army knife
-he puts on a bracelet which she calls an anti-static bracelet but it's not connected to the ground or table or anything it's just a stand-alone bracelet on his arm
-video editors tend to care about the power of the CPU and the amount of RAM
-if you're looking for a PC that can perform intensive tasks you're going to want decently high-end stuff
-the "brace" at the back is an IO Shield
-you do not need to align the motherboard I owe with the back of the computer when you screw it in it will be aligned anyway
-he puts the motherboard in without installing the Ram or the CPU
-he calls 2666 megahertz fast ram
-he opens all dim slots and puts both Ram modules beside each other so he's not getting dual Channel
-he talks about speed of a hard drive and then says it's best that you use an SSD which is a solid state drive not a hard disk drive
-it's a PNY GTX 1080
-says it doesn't matter which PCI slot you install the graphics card into... of course PCI slots have different bandwidth limitations the top slot usually in x16 slot
-says that you need to place the power supply on the "insulating pads" at the bottom of the case to prevent the power Supply from coming in contact with the case and short circuiting(im assuming they're there to dampen the noise)
-the power supplies fan pointing inwards and it's in the back chamber of the case
-puts the radiator in the case without mounting the fans on the radiator
-uses the wrong screws for the radiator
-what's the power supply in without plugging in the cables that he needs so now he has to plug in the cables while the power supplies in the case
-takes the socket covering off of the CPU socket
-call the socket a CPU holder/slot
Get something called a CPU applicator "cpu installation tool" and pushes the bottom of the CPU into the applicator with a piece of plastic
-later takes off the CPU applicator and puts it on the side
-Corsair cooler he's using already has thermal paste applied to it but he says it's not enough
-I don't need to explain much with the attached picture
-puts the fans not on the radiator, but on other mounts (is it called a mount?)
-cable management is horrific
-using League of Legends to benchmark
(I'm sorry for the wall of text)
reef patrol
Stop shaming PNY. Its ridiculous and uncalled for. 
ashen spindle
can't wait for the verge's RTX review with that case, because he is going to thermal throttle his card
reef patrol
Also mounting fans like that is pretty normal. As far as the radiator goes. He DID do it off camera though, because he's an idiot who forgot them.
plush summit
no he didnt
ther fans are on the top of the case while the radiator is at the front
is that normal?
reef patrol
Wasn't the rad in the top with fans below?
plush summit
nope
reef patrol
Shit... Now I gotta rewatch that Trainwreck
plush summit
(it looks like that to me anyway)
pale sigil
-he puts the motherboard in without installing the Ram or the CPU
dont see anything wrong with putting in mobo without ram tbh
ashen spindle
yeah it's better to put in the mobo without anything on it
plush summit
?
why not get the basic stuff installed and make sure it posts out of the case so you dont need to tear everything out if something is DOA
sturdy crater
@plush summit SHE? SHE!?!
plush summit
fair enough
sturdy crater
I thought it was a guy
plush summit
im using voice to text
sturdy crater
And imo 2666 is fast ram.. Not the fastest but its still fast.
plush summit
@reef patrol nope, ur right...they installed the radiator and fans correctly afterwards
ashen spindle
I mean it's hard to find something below 2400 so I wouldn't call 2666 fast
sturdy crater
Intel only recommends 2100 I believe
ashen spindle
nah they have 2666 as a base supported guarantee
ashen spindle
for older chips sure
ashen spindle
maybe you are thinking of the 7xxx CPU's , they were rated at
DDR4-2133/2400
sturdy crater
Hmm maybe. Could swear it was the newer chips as well. I remember looking at ryzen and being like the rec speed is lower on Intel
ashen spindle
well on ryzen you also gain more from faster memory
sturdy crater
Ik just found it curious since both platforms actually gained some significant performance at around 3000-3200mhz I believe
ashen spindle
well it's just that the specification means you need to not have any failures at that speed, so it's safer for them to stay lower
even though you barely have any issue with that ever, unless you go above 4000mhz or use a really cheap and bad mobo
sturdy crater
Well rec speed should be what speed it runs best at imo. I.e. Ddr3 was 2400 I believe
ashen spindle
noooo you never want that to be the case because then you get a shit ton of complaints from users with bad luck in the silicon lottery that can't run at those speeds
sturdy crater
Ya but I've heard there's some people that can't even run at 2666 so..
ashen spindle
then it's a bad mobo where it has to say in their handbook it's not supported
plush summit
I'm running at 3000 megahertz with no issues
reef patrol
Most DDR3 was 1333/1600. You could get upwards of 2400, but it was rare and enthusiast.
plush summit
does it make that much of a difference? ik it does with ryzen.....but with intel?
reef patrol
For games? Not really. It's hard to see improvements past 2400ish
For rendering and serious work? It can matter.
hard thicket
for 3D rendering, it matters quite alot. especially for the realtime render view.
for gaming, you might get slight above 3 extra frames per second (depending on the game)
plush summit
So I pretty much paid extra for nothing
plush summit
I want to get into rendering and stuff... I want to learn to use blender