That's past what I know.
#πβtech
iron wave
warped nebula
it's far cheaper to get a microcontroller with huge input muxes for the ADCs than external ADCs with many channels, for some reason
iron wave
More precise, more niche.
warped nebula
yeah. those mcus can run at 5 bit, not many discrete ADCs do
warped nebula
not likely. 12 or 14 probably, tends to be enough for rotaries e.g. from Austrian Micro Systems or Melexis
... though it's likely the sensors in there are much cheaper than those
iron wave
Yeah, could just be software.
I do recall getting 16 bit values.
Now if only the chat pad had support. :V
warped nebula
random controller trivia: the Sixaxis controller reports analogue values for its rubber dome push buttons. It is pressure sensitive, though AFAIK no game ever used the data.
iron wave
Same with the Xbox controller if I recall.
crimson wigeon
Yeah, PS2 controllers also do that
iron wave
But later models just did on/off I believe.
The things you learn trying to make a thing work on your computer.
warped nebula
disappointingly, the Nolo controller trigger doesn't seem to have an analog range at all; it just has the bottom tactile click.
also, the leads on the '503 hall effect sensors I have are too short to reach the bottom in my rough draft of a switch housing.
iron wave
That's annoying.
warped nebula
it will need some sort of workaround if I move up to multiple switches. well, I can make a row with all leads sticking out the side
iron wave
Lead trimmings?
warped nebula
I have to connect all 3 leads. ground, power, and signal. signal will be individual per switch. I might end up making power rails per row of switches and scan the power
for the moment, though, I think making one printed housing that slides properly would be neat
(and surprising, considering the quality of my printer)
iron wave
I meant to extend the length of the leads.
warped nebula
ah, as in leftover lead pieces. yeah, but it's twice the soldering and I don't happen to have that much left over, this is my only big project
iron wave
Ah, gotcha.
My big hardware project is taking a while, partially because it's a bit of a learning curve and partly because I need to make most of the components in KiCAD. :V
pale sigil
@haughty condor New layout
Click profile
Click dark theme
ashen spindle
I still cant find dark theme on my youtube 
haughty condor
pale sigil
ye my better discord theme bugs that out lol
iron wave
fervent plaza
Many people complain that light mode is too bright, in the dark but why are you using it in the dark, go to sleep or turn on you lights, you weirdo I think everyone should use light mode on discord i have been using for almost a week and know don't understand why this isn't the default the light mode is unique in the way that it makes you feel almost like an oreo, the sidebar is black the rest is white colours are more prominent and they look beautiful, a clear result of careful ui by the developers they have carefully handcrafted each hex colour with the decision to make light mode the best the text at first I wished was darker but know i appreciate the aesthetic easy on the eyes font colour The other sidebar with the users on the right is a slightly darker off white colour truelly a master stroke making it easy on the eyes Many people complain that light mode is too bright, in the dark but why are you using it in the dark, go to sleep or turn on you lights, you weirdo
plush summit
I can't tell if that's a joke or a real comment
plush summit
I'm disappointed there is no dark mode for Andriod Oreo....4.4.4 was fine, nice and dark...but from 5.0 and up its been white
misty saffron
just theme it
haughty condor
there's a dark mode switch in Android 9.0
thin elm
Yeah, with Pie the interface can always be dark mode. Wish it affected the settings app though.
iron wave
This is what I use. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brit.swiftblack.layers
pale sigil
"My friend tried to remove a game but it wouldn't work so he tried to do it in the registery" https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/476511991738138624/476521137958944779/unknown.png?width=963&height=542
jesus christ
timid chasm
nailed it
iron wave
Nice font.
reef patrol
Had that a while back on a customer's pc. It couldn't find any fonts, so it defaulted to that.
toxic jolt
LOL
iron wave
Better than crashing, you can at least do something with it.
toxic jolt
I mean, some programmer at Microsoft made that feature and knew something like this would happen one day
misty saffron
@iron wave damn, thanks, bought the dark one
reef patrol
Aww yiss! Gameboy clone meets Lego/Model Kit/Warhammer.
β« Do you wanna build a gamebooooooy... βͺ
haughty condor
got a link for that @reef patrol ?
reef patrol
It's a kickstarter that ended recently. Should be in stores soon ish
Look for Clockwork Gameshell. π
Can't wait to build it π
reef patrol
ashen spindle
finally fond a way to turn youtube dark mode on again
if you are not logged in, it still shows you teh settings menu so I just don't log in for youtube lmao
non dark mode even "broke" expanded view for me so I'll just never login on youtube again
iron wave
Don't you love it when your IDE has a strange bug that only applies to your very narrow use case and causes you to not be able to progress?
reef patrol
Dark mode works for me logged in 
ashen spindle
yeah but if it goes away I'd have to log out again, no options for me if I'm logged in since a few days ago
iron wave
How odd.
ashen spindle
new layout apaprently, but it's almost like the old except settings are hidden and I just cand find them anywhere
iron wave
YouTube's team is kind of mean.
timid chasm
You've upset the dev gods and now they're punishing your account specifically.
iron wave
Haha.
latent mural
just tell youtube you're using ie11
it will use the old old layout
no changes whatsoever
not even dark theme
pale sigil
@ashen spindle
It seems I tagged the wrong person
But I did show a screenshot on how to do it
warped nebula
small progress. I have a functional but fragile, scratchy and unstable 3d printed prototype of my switch. making some design changes to make it interlock rather than pop apart on key return.
warped nebula
the other issues are basically down to print quality
iron wave
My printer is junky.
iron wave
I can't be the only person that thinks "what is the API like?" when they see a neat piece of hardware.
toxic jolt
nope you're not
plush summit
.....not bad
iron wave
I managed to get like 600MHz on all stock voltage on my CPU.
tall finch
I had to put my 4770k to 1.47v to get it stable at 4.5Ghz π’
that was nuts though so I dialed it back to 1.43v so I can enjoy my sweet 4.3Ghz
timid chasm
dang. I think my 4690k went to 4.5 with stock voltage
iron wave
Got to love the lotto.
iron wave
I was stable at +600MHz for months then I bumped up the RAM one notch then couldn't get it again and had to reset the BIOS.
plush summit
6600k went to 4.3 on stock
But i cant overclock since my system is stable and i dont have any extra power left in my psu...any overclock makes the systen unstable
iron wave
Something that bugs me to no end is the horrible networking capabilities of modern consoles.
latent mural
I'm doing 3,8ghz on release date r7 1700, I am ok with this
haughty condor
Thanks @reef patrol got one of those Gameboy clones coming
reef patrol
Nice! Put mine together while waiting for my plane to land.
Enjoying the DIY and modular bit, but it's not an awesome Gameboy...yet. The ABXY keys get stuck down, and I'm not sure if it's me or the kit. Waiting for some manufacturer and forum feedback.
The shoulder button add-on could also use some work. Much too bulky.
latent mural
has anyone experienced a good and bad HDR tv?
wants to know if is missing anything at all
is stuck on DSL
iron wave
HDR is nice.
latent mural
maybe it doesn't practically work on edge lit screens
toxic jolt
idk if there really is aa baad HDR screen
maybe one that's not calibrated good out of the box
I'd prefer OLED overall for any HDR stuff tbh
latent mural
well i'm not the kind of person that would pay 2-3k for a tv
latent mural
meanwhile spending like 1k per year on audio
toxic jolt
LOL
latent mural
well i've just been on a streak..
in audio when you get something good it can mostly be as good as it gets
toxic jolt
so you've been going all out?
latent mural
now just to spend 300 euro + time on acoustic treatment
No i mean there is an end in sight
video tech can be upgraded for ever
latent mural
as in atmos?
toxic jolt
optical or whichever
latent mural
Please describe your problem
toxic jolt
I want to get a 7.1 signal to my amp so I can use my surround setup
but so far, I only have uncompressed optical, and the typical sound connectors
latent mural
amp/receiver only accepts dolby then?
latent mural
what sound card do you have
toxic jolt
a cheapo asus one, xonar dg or something
latent mural
should be a simple connect to optical out
toxic jolt
afaik most optical sound output on PCs is uncompressed, which is just 2 ch
toxic jolt
still doesn't work
or at least since the last time I tried
I did some deep digging and watched some videos, and they all pointed towards the same thing
only the expensive sound blaster cards or whichever actually support encoded optical out
toxic jolt
is there a way to get that into something my amp can take?
latent mural
what's your amp?
toxic jolt
sony str-dg720
toxic jolt
it has many an hdmi
latent mural
tried that?
toxic jolt
yes
OH
okay you just made me remember something
so
I'd been using hdmi before with some really weird TV
because windows detects as second display
but between the amp and the shitty TV, it would crank like 500ms response times
now im using a different monitor with DP
so I could go back to hdmi and see what I can work out
any tips for getting windows to not treat the HDMI like another display?
latent mural
i think you can simply just disable the screen in windows while keeping the audio
hard to check for me at the moment
othewise, simply setting the screen to Clone will take no gpu resources
toxic jolt
can I clone one display but extend another?
latent mural
as in you have 3 screens?
latent mural
well i think when i tried win10 and had 2 screens, 3 would not work only via eyefinity
toxic jolt
kinda what I thought
latent mural
and the gpu driver decides if you can have audio
unlesss
are you running an intel? :p
toxic jolt
one time I got away with making the resolution as small as it would go, then put it in the bottom corner
gtx 1060
integrated is for scrubs ecks dee
toxic jolt
I mean yea
the intel hd graphics custom resolution program is pretty anal tho
brb gotta get ready for work
latent mural
l;emme try
i remember most of my realteks with optical out supporting dolby 5.1 through optical
alternatively via a big mess you could just encode it in software
plush summit
Got slapped with 1803 update...it still reeezes for a bit when switching to a full screen application where as 1709 does not....has anyone else experienced this?
reef patrol
Short pauses when alt tabbing full screen apps have always been normal. If you didn't have that, you were an anomaly
plush summit
@reef patrol i dont have them in 1709...the game keeps running with no pauses
crimson wigeon
Yeah in 1709 that fancy mode that let borderless window basically be like exclusive fullscreen worked perfectly, then they broke it in 1803 and never fixed it since
pale sigil
oops
reef patrol
Never had any kind of pauses with non exclusive full screen.
crimson wigeon
And yeah as an insider I can say.. it's still not working..
I miss that mode so much, having to use exclusive fullscreen and all the weirdness that brings sucks
pale sigil
I still miss the original Windows 10 starm meu
reef patrol
I really dont understand that issue. I have NEVER had delays when non exclusive full screen apps. EXCLUSIVE apps on the other hand. Always delays due to rerender
crimson wigeon
Yeah that's the point, before 1803 ruined everything I could set most games to just borderless fullscreen window and it would bypass the compositor and all that jazz, now I have to go exclusive to get that
reef patrol
I still don't follow.
crimson wigeon
Ok
fickle ore
You sure? Windows composition is forced since windows 8. non-exclusive programs are always double buffered. Exclusive fullscreen is the only way to get rid of desktop "vsync"
Exclusive Fullscreen programs run at higher fps aswell
crimson wigeon
Correct, however for a while fullscreen borderless windowed games did bypass the compositor.. that is until 1803. This is what that "fullscreen optimizations" did
reef patrol
Only in some cases, nagga. Plenty of games run faster in windowed.
fickle ore
No π
reef patrol
Feel free to Google it. Plenty of comparisons π
Also more importantly. Having to wait seconds to tsb back and forth is downright criminal in the age of multitasking with s browser π
plush summit
rip windoge....it truly is a meme of an operating system now
fickle ore
ngh, it was a new presentation model, dunno if I would call it borderless mode
Did they really remove that?
crimson wigeon
Well it does appear to still be in use, only for UWP stuff.. and when stuff's in exclusive fullscreen mode which causes other problems
... perhaps it's intentional because some weirdos love the forced vsync in non-exclusive fullscreen
fickle ore
maybe u need to enable game mode for it to work?
Yeah I'm beginning to hate w10 with passion, it's getting so many useless features. Someone needs to make performance/oc/gaming OS
It's very bloated aswell and all the damn spyware. I saw a test with all the crap disabled, the min fps and 1%s and 0,1%s were a lot better
Wish I could also disable the stupid compositor like in W7
crimson wigeon
Yeah, unfortunately all the new stuff depends on it
pale sigil
i really miss the original windows 10 start
reef patrol
Mine looks like that normally?
pale sigil
no it doesn;t
crimson wigeon
Congratulations you haven't updated
crimson wigeon
Nah, that's not it
pale sigil
was simlar
thin elm
having the left-hand text always visible would be nice
I just use a fullscreen start menu though
plush summit
whats different?
crimson wigeon
Yeah that's the very first one
pale sigil
Ye
it was so much better
even search was far supperior
but we didn't have cortana i guess
it wasn't perfect but it was far supperior
it annoys me because microsoft are slowly trying to remove the older functions such as control panel, volume settings etc
No ones likes settings π
crimson wigeon
Oh come on settings is great!
pale sigil
xD please dont trigger me
crimson wigeon
Who doesn't like inefficient usage of space?
Also being locked to just one window, which is another general trend I hate. Why do developers suddenly have a hatred for multiple windows?
pale sigil
devs hate everyone
pliant tulip
I canβt remember the last time I used the start menu
Sure, I hit the winkey and start typing, but thatβs not using the start menu, thatβs search
Even before 10 tbh
pliant tulip
Probs itβs just me, cause Iβm mainly a macOS user
plush summit
meh
pliant tulip
So I find the start menu completely redundant
pale sigil
But i still like the old looks
plush summit
im just happy the shitty tiles option can be turned off
plush summit
i dont have a problem with the new start menu
pale sigil
albert is perfection
plush summit
lol
plush summit
rainmeter instead?
pale sigil
haven't used that in many years
haughty condor
Man I'm psyched to get this to review
Compiz is best desktop
Spin that cuuuuubeeeeeee
plush summit
i say that somewhere.....is it actually any good?
crude cipher
latent mural
control panel etc is still there, accessible the same way you should as IT pro since 95
@pale sigil
misty saffron
everything is still accessible using search
idk why everyone is hating on windows 10, i like it
latent mural
because it's fun to hate microsoft
i only use the start menu for search as soon as it appeared
the "problem" is that the first settings result can often not be what it used to be , it's in the new interface instead
ashen spindle
you cant completely disable telemetry, the automatic updates are a piece of shit that sometimes update while you take a 5 minute break to get something etc.
I use it and like it but it has some really annoying issues
latent mural
set your network to metered
and/or use win Pro and run the business update branch
and/or forbid updates via windows firewal
running Pro and doesn't get restarts
you could probably force it to suspend restarts with a simple program too
ashen spindle
yeah but you'd need a different one for every big update probably
latent mural
no
ashen spindle
I know there are ways around most of it, but if I need to do more than flip a settings switch it's just a pain in the ass and a valid reason to dislike it imo
latent mural
I dont think so. I can perfectly see why microsoft did it, with their what was is... 48! windows versions still in support
update all the home users
less work for me when my relatives computers have problems
ashen spindle
ok, updates are one part , there is still telemetry etc., and if I wouldn't need win10 I'd still be on Win7 because it doesnt have all this crap
latent mural
any telemetry paranoia is fixed with a firewall
ashen spindle
yeah, or just have an option to disable it
I shouldnt be required to know a lot about a computer and do extra work if its not needed
latent mural
It's their product, it's their decision. Your decision is to use their product or not
it gives them good data, im perfectly fine with this
it's not just for the heck of it
ashen spindle
it's not really my decision if it's the only product availible where everything I need works on lmao
latent mural
you can't have everything you want in someone else's product
so just save the time and embrace it or actively do something about it
ashen spindle
I do, doesn't mean I can't call it bullshit if something is bullshit
latent mural
it really isn't bullshit
reef patrol
It's not REALLY your decision, when Microsoft forces the 10 upgrade π
latent mural
Honestly, never experienced that
had to cheat into the free upgrade for win7 diehards far more often
(you can still upgrade for free)
reef patrol
I've had it happen more times than I care to remember.
latent mural
i dunno, never happened to me, (this includes the huge amount of people who's computers i set up)
dunno what's the magic
huge being like 20 ( who i know did not get it installed)
fickle ore
Do you guys disable wlan&remote management on your router/modem?
ashen spindle
no, have a laptop that has no LAN port so I need WLAN
latent mural
the internet says that this tv should be ok for hdr, even though it's edge lit, because quantum nanoprobes TM or something
maybe youtube's hdr is... bad
plush summit
Youtube in general is bad
latent mural
I have a usb stick of with an hdr movie and a 1030 (has hdmi 2.0, ..i think) coming to me in the evening
will see if i can get it to work
well netflix is a no go, unless it's a netflix series it's not even hd for me
maybe amazon prime....
reef patrol
Or get a USB to LAN adaptor π€
latent mural
huh, interesting, when using a dedicated device (like a smart tv) then i actually get most netflix stuff that i can access in hd/hdr/dolby vision
dolby vision seems to work better than the thing youtube uses "HDR something".. maybe
kind of just looks like no ridiculous amounts of colour filters and bright things being brighter
pale sigil
@latent mural I know that lmao
I'm just saying they are slowly trying to make it irrelivent
Putting a lot of it in the windows 10 settings
@misty saffron I like windows 10 a lot I just hate how they keep trying to remove what doesn't need to be removed
I also hate the amount of shit installed and privacy issues
@ashen spindle @reef patrol the only way to stop major upgrades is uninstalling, I had a huge issue with my laptop not installing updates and restoring windows due to grub, I had to uninstall the update. I ended up removing windows entirely instead
ashen spindle
not a viable solution if you need to work on win 10 π
ashen spindle
ew mac
pale sigil
Linux
fite me
Starting to get super worried
My CPU usage is high af lately
and my games keep acting up
crimson wigeon
Windows is updating
crimson wigeon
I see
pale sigil
but my point still stands
idk whats going on with it lately
going to do some diagnostics i guess!
latent mural
candy crush v1, 2 and 3?
latent mural
and i have no doubt it helps sell the laptop
i installed win10 pro a week ago, only had 2 or 3 candy crushes
pale sigil
Windows now makes you have security questions for offline accounts -_-
pale sigil
its new
ashen spindle
nope, I'm using pro and have most of it, they add new stuff in never version if you do clean installs of them
pale sigil
You can bypass it via making the account without a password first
i was adding a second account btw
pale sigil
nope
latent mural
it says "microsoft account"
latent mural
maybe it isn't | ( Ν‘Β° ΝΚ Ν‘Β°)
pale sigil
reef patrol
You don't need passwords for offline. Thankfully.
pale sigil
Lol
plush summit
(exept for some sort of virus using an exploit...but i have yet to have that happen)
plush summit
rip
tall finch
are they actually installed or just ads for those things
cuz when they first did that crap they were just ads
which is still gross
ashen spindle
installed
pale sigil
installed
latent mural
only candy crush and it's versions were installed for me (fresh install)
else were adds
ashen spindle
tbf I directly uninstalled everything before I looked what it showed me in there
plush summit
@pale sigil have you looked at windows lite?
iron wave
I do dislike the ~15 prgorams that come with Windows that will reinstall behind your back sometimes.
pale sigil
lol why would i
iron wave
I think Discord needs to support APNG.
plush summit
its an illegal rebuild of windows...without all of the garbage
iron wave
I do not want to touch that.
plush summit
i has litteraly nothing
pale sigil
i would rather avoid torrenting it, i have used it before for VMs
ashen spindle
dont try the N version
ashen spindle
I have that and I wish I would have the normal version
plush summit
i know...but still, fuck Microsoft for all of that telemetry
latent mural
i'm more annoyed by google mapping all the wifis in the city and then showing my last location on my google account
if i ever get my account stolen they know where i live, where i work, where i am
plush summit
they would know that already if they wanted to kill you
plush summit
blep
latent mural
alright, got the 1030
hdr works i guess, so does 4k@60hz
colours as odd as you expect them to be
pale sigil
why 1030
plush summit
is a 1050 even worth buying since there are now 3 versions of the same chipset
latent mural
it's worth buying if the curtent gpu prices don't plan to go down
latent mural
i thought about buying a 480 2 years ago for 350
but decided to wait as i wasn't in an incredible need of a gpu then
kind of kills the desire of getting practically the same thing now for 420
plush summit
yeah
the one oi planned top buy costed 420 anyway
i lost no money
just waited a year and a half
latent mural
most 1st world problem of the day: the subpixels are so small and oddly shaped that i cant tell if there is a white subpixel or not
if i zoom it in with a phone the bright colours just blend together and i get a e.g. a yellow subpixel
pale sigil
1050 is not worth buying no
latent mural
i did say 1050ti lp, it has it's specific use case
plush summit
even then...i would say 1050 chipset is not worth buying
latent mural
no video card is now by that mark
pale sigil
.even so
like i would always avoid a 1060 3gb suggestion
but if someone is really going for a 1050ti
i would just suggest 1060 3gb
latent mural
1060 doesn't come in low profile
plush summit
if u planning on gaming....you dont want anything lower than a 1060 or 480/580
plush summit
but its costs an arm and a leg more
pale sigil
for a reaosn
tall finch
its like a 10% diff in perf(unless you run out of vram lol)
pale sigil
No
tall finch
not worth losing your mind over
pale sigil
The chip itself is different
tall finch
its cut down
and it comes to about a 10%~ difference in performance
for the 3gb model vs the 6gb
latent mural
Oh poo, this is a RGBW pattern after all. Funny, couldn't possibly notice the difference at the store
plush summit
classic nvidia
pale sigil
Even so the low vram is not worth it
the difference is huge man
especially in games
tall finch
most games you'll never notice but the few you do will be brutal
its not a smart amount of vram in 2018
pale sigil
i think you need to look this up man
tall finch
I used to do nothing but watch video card reviews and read articles
its a fine gpu until you run out of vram then its shitty
the business model around it is shittier than the actual gpu
pale sigil
it just makes no sense in general
to get a 3gb one
you're not just paying more for vram
Everyone i have encouraged to save up all dont regret it
and are thankful of it
the 1060 3gb is just a money maker
tall finch
you have a skewed perspective on the difference between the cards my dude
pale sigil
only the 1060 3gb and 6gb
thats my only issue
In my eyes, get a 1060 6gb or a last gen card
more value for your money
tall finch
it just depends what someone is doing tbh
pale sigil
Well i mean.
tall finch
what games they're playing at what res and what framerates they're targeting
pale sigil
You're still going to save getting a last gen card if you go for a 1050ti
no matter what
tbf tho the market has gone down nicely
tall finch
thats pretty solid across the board though
used 980ti is a better buy than any 1060
etc
pale sigil
i just think its not worth the money buying a 1050ti
1060 6gb/1070 onwards i think is good depending on the gpu you'e coming form
*from
thats another factor i guess
what gpu you're coming form
*from
sorry, im trying to play GOW at the same time
i wont deny there are some flaws in my argument, i have the mindset of if you want a gaming rig you may as well get the best for your money.
latent mural
I'm never going to buy anything LG every again
and never buy anything LG for anyone i know
that'll show... me
cries
the white pixel is the same size as the other subpixels
that's a catastrophic difference
If it were at least bigger then some software magic could make it just ok
1 wide pixel -> 1 tiny pixel -> wide -> tiny >wide ->tiny
then what was the point of this nanocell/quantom dot mumbo jumbo then, it's not even there, is it...
the white pixel was to increase the brightness and cheat into HDR certification on their budget tvs, this is not a budget tv
LG are horrible, horrible people
pale sigil
Leave my tv alone
pale sigil
i saw that lg rocks
latent mural
And this is that situation when you should get a 1050ti low profile
it's when you ragequit gaming and pursue other digital hobbies
I only got a 4k screen to show guis, but decided to get specifically this one for gaming, turns out i've been lied to about it, so i've gone full circle
heh
plush summit
1050 wont last you very long....medeum to low setting atm will be low settings in the future
reef patrol
Not much point in buying older cards at this point, unless you get a REALLY good deal.
pale sigil
Anyone here use an otg cable with their iPad or iPhone
reef patrol
I have no idea what that even is π€
haughty condor
plush summit
@pale sigil friend used to...but they jailbrke their stuff
iron wave
@reef patrol
I have a 960 right now. :V
iron wave
I've been thinking about the thermal performance of my laptop lately. It seems to stay hot for the most part, any ideas?
reef patrol
How old is it?
plush summit
age? (no idea) maybe gunked up fans, heat sync has crap in it.....
reef patrol
Aside from the usual ideas of cleaning fans with a compressor and swapping thermal paste... One of those laptop cooler pads?
plush summit
set power options for active cooling (spin up the fans before thermal throttling)
@reef patrol do those laptop cooling pads even work? afaik laptops draw air in from the bottom and throw it out the side
reef patrol
Depends on the laptop. Typical pads push air up into the bottom of the laptop.
plush summit
.....unless its a macbook... Then there's no help for u
My laptop runs at 90Β°C for hours on end...it still works 3 years later some how
latent mural
for a standard properly fanned laptop the cooling pad can be replaced by 2-4 erasers that wilp lift the laptop higher
warped nebula
yep, fans need access to air to create airflow. my main gaming machine is standing on some lego pieces so the power supply gets enough air.
iron wave
Oh sorry.
Busy.
There is air flow, but I have no idea how old it is.
Found it in the trash like a year ago and fixed it.
iron wave
Anyone happen to have a fairly concise document on how the AMD VM instructions work?
latent mural
will be waiting for CES next year to see if there are any 120hz 4k freesync tvs
latent mural
I'll wait for 4k ultra short throw LED projectors
LG PF1000U LED looks fun
I'd get to actually use the whole area for audio treatment \o/
i'm kind of afraid that this will be a dying trend in a year https://www.lg.com/us/home-video/lg-PF1000U-smart-led-projector
ultra short throw LED bulb projectors
that thing is 2016!
it's 2018 already
iron wave
I don't like smart displays.
pale sigil
think it wouild be worth buying a replacement batter for my old oneplus one?
pale sigil
pale sigil
So erm
Discord allows you to apply to receive all the data kept on you
Takes a few days
But I have every single message, personal info, info of all friends and conversations with them, machine data and a bunch of other stuff π
misty saffron
@pale sigil dumps are missing some data
pale sigil
@misty saffron aye I read
misty saffron
like attachments and if you leave a server it's not included i think
so technically they can get sued
halcyon moss
ugh.. Synology diskstation would not update it's lets encrypt cert.. it was because ipv6 was enabled
things like this make it seem ipv6 is not ready
pale sigil
@halcyon moss oh what model do you have?
reef patrol
IPV6 is definitely not ready for primetime. π
halcyon moss
ds215j i think
pale sigil
Basically the same as me tho I have 16
They seem to have a revision every year that's the same but different model
I love my nas
halcyon moss
it works quite well
spice portal
@reef patrol Why is IPv6 not "ready for primetime"?
reef patrol
Too many apps and websites don't understand it, and often downright tell you to disable IPV6 if you have it on. π¦
spice portal
That's not really IPv6 itself's fault thoughβ¦
reef patrol
Oh don't misunderstand. I wasn't referring to the tech itself - Only the implementation
pale sigil
Ipv6 caused so many problems because it's still not widely used
I remember one time setting up a forums site
And I hadn't configured it for ipv6
A bunch of the American users couldn't access the site
I don't even think ipv6 is a thing in the UK beyond on a small scale
I'm really rusty on my networking
Focused mostly on forensics the last 2 years
spiral pier
It sure as hell isn't used in the Netherlands beyond some obscure resources.
I had one client request IPv6 support for security and future proofing, Although they don't really need it yet
I don't want to just enable it all of the sudden without proper testing it first, though.
halcyon moss
im not sure my isp (ziggo) supports ipv6
crimson wigeon
Yeah really strange that it's still not really used even though its been a thing for so long
Although here they switched on IPv6 for mobile connections a few years ago
Works fine!
plush summit
It's needed
crimson wigeon
Switch to IPv6 should have started ASAP, so we wouldn't be in this mess right now
plush summit
I need to go and relearn all the addressing again
Hopefully in the next few years we completely switch over
iron wave
Minecraft doesn't support it at all, even disables it from what I recall looking at the code.
Which is pretty stupid.
plush summit
.........well shit
spiral pier
Would be chaos if IPv4 would suddenly be deprecated.
iron wave
Isn't it deprecated though?
pale sigil
@iron wave please type !restore for me
iron wave
What framework are you using?
pale sigil
try again
iron wave
!restore for me
vast helmBOT
gudenau, it doesn't look like you can use that. 
spiral pier
@iron wave Eh, I meant like fully removed support. So a sudden change to IPv6 only. (Not going to happen though)
pale sigil
i want it to ignore you
iron wave
Maybe in a couple decades. :V
spiral pier
@iron wave I envy your Discord ID with a passion
iron wave
It was originally 6863 then I changed it.
Plus my UID is not 1337.
It is 157964837895274497.
:^)
pale sigil
ik
spiral pier
Solid choice of ID, though.
iron wave
I still can't believe I almost had a natural 6969.
iron wave
Ah, mine is broken and does not do much of anything right now.
Waiting on a database library to update to be compatible with Java 9+. :V
pale sigil
sorry
iron wave
Not bugging me.
pale sigil
should be doing this in muh playground instead
plush summit
are....you...kidding me
pale sigil
?
plush summit
the bot....why rick and morty reference
pale sigil
meeseekssssssssss
reef patrol
Ask whoever designed it.
spiral pier
@plush summit It's a bot designed by and for people with a high IQ.
reef patrol
iron wave
I know nothing about that show.
spiral pier
iron wave
I'm not going to visit that.
iron wave
In theory I could download like 70TB a week, if I am doing my math correctly.
plush summit
Should i be using ramdisk with 16 gb of ram(256 allocated for ramdisk)
reef patrol
No.
latent mural
you should use of 1 gig
put your browser cache into it and put all temporary trash there too
#save the flash
plush summit
done that
if i cave to the prices and get more ram is there anything else i could use the ramdisk for?
pale sigil
I got moaned at for using a few tb a month once
Just reminded them we don't have data caps in the UK and hung up
plush summit
lucky
pale sigil
Wasn't always a thing
plush summit
and i do have another question. i have wake timers off....but my pc still keeps waking up from a sleep
any ideas?
pale sigil
Who loves math
Just rang my isp
Could only give me averages
@plush summit I went in a 15 min call for you
Weird hungers
Numbers
iron wave
If I had an OS I would want the temp stuff would use a RAM disk and if the RAM filled up it would start flushing it to disk.
It would be hard but an interesting optimization.
spice portal
"start flushing to disk" = swap
I have /tmp mounted as a tmpfs, so what you're describing is basically how it works for me. (Except I don't have swap, so no flushing to disk.)
plush summit
@pale sigil my god
I dint have that type of data
@digital cliff wolan is disabled
plush summit
Actually having a problem with discord on desktop right now....wont stop checking for updates.....but i do have internet
plush summit
Did... No cigar
iron wave
So it can access it, so the app is broken for some reason.
That I can not help with.
plush summit
Maybe it's because I change the location of the temp files
iron wave
Oh, that could do it.
Try making a directory junction at the old location?
plush summit
It looks like Discord doesn't support other locations for temp files
iron wave
A directory junction should fix that.
plush summit
So do I just create a folder in the location it expects to see something?
iron wave
https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/16226/complete-guide-to-symbolic-links-symlinks-on-windows-or-linux/
plush summit
So I learned something Discord doesn't support custom set temporary directories
Because the installer also threw an error
yay, junction link worked, thanks @iron wave
toxic jolt
junctions and shit are fun
learned aboot em for work
theres an imac that has an hdd and ssd
but no native way to offload any apps or whatnot
so made a script that would offload users and shit via symlinks
iron wave
Why could they not make WINE better instead of making a new one? 
pale sigil
Because erm
Why would they
Considering it's open source
And not owned by them
Better to developer their own software
iron wave
Would get the Linux nerds on board.
iron wave
I know someone that is working on getting it working better, we will see though.
reef patrol
Wine is 100% better than not having it π
iron wave
He got some stuff working on it that did not before and he is a pretty smart and driven person.
reef patrol
All those poor EVE players with no wrappers
pale sigil
There's a problem out there were people share scripts
To get programs and games running
iron wave
Anyway, I do hope they let Linux users use it.
pale sigil
On wine
iron wave
What do you mean?
pale sigil
Lutris for example
iron wave
?
pale sigil
Lutris is a hub or community of scripts people have made
To get games working with wine
And programs
iron wave
I am pretty sure he went in a implemented the stubs that the program was calling in order to get it to work.
pale sigil
What I'm saying is that he wouldn't be Improving wine he would just simply be writing for wine
Wine will never get better
Something needs to replace it
(Not saying valve is the solution for wine)
crimson wigeon
Replace it with what?
iron wave
Considering how hard core they have done stuff in the past, this might work out fairly well.
pale sigil
Replace or with something better that uses the same concept as wine
crimson wigeon
So... why not improve wine instead?
iron wave
Once I tried to make a Pi run a Windows program, wasn't fun.
pale sigil
Because it's by a team that hasn't exactly committed to doing that
crimson wigeon
wut
pale sigil
@iron wave tbh I wouldn't say making a distro with steam pre installed is hardcore
iron wave
They went into the streaming and VR stuff pretty hard. Developing a lot of new stuff that worked pretty darn well and confused people reverse engineering it and ended up helping them to do so.
I'm pretty sure this will end up being good if it's released.
pale sigil
And it's very old
iron wave
Anyway, got to go.
crimson wigeon
Oh you're saying it should be scrapped and replaced with something written in Rust?
crimson wigeon
Well that's going to be a massive project
pale sigil
Fore sure
But it has to be done
And it's not a bad idea when someone like value wants to take their own approach
Maybe it will ease another group coming along
Who knows
tall finch
more projects for Valve to half-finish before they move onto something else :)
pale sigil
Streaming was finished and still under development
Vr they poured a lot into
As for steam machine stuff
Can't blame them for abandoning it
And revisiting
plush summit
rip steam os
iron wave
I wish the SteamLink was more stable.
pale sigil
Works fine for me
iron wave
I get audio hiccups a lot with occasional stutters in the video.
pale sigil
Honestly had issues like rush
That
Must be an encoding issue or connection
It's very demanding
iron wave
I know it's not the connection.
zenith mirage
I used it the other day to play HOI4. Games like that work like a charm on it, but I'd never use it for anything that requires quick reactions. Even using a wired connection, the latency is noticeable
spice portal
Eh. Wine works pretty damn amazingly for what it is and it may not have huge groundbreaking changes between individual releases, but it certainly has seen huge improvements over time.
I think you underestimate the intricacies of reverse engineering several entire proprietary OS APIs that are only partially documented, including bugs and behaviours that some developers have relied on when writing their programs. If Valve is starting from scratch, they're not getting anywhere close to what Wine can do anytime soon.
plush summit
Or they're just going to use wine and say they did it themselves
spice portal
If so, they'll have to adhere to the Wine license terms: https://wiki.winehq.org/Licensing β and as such have to disclose somewhere that they're using and redistributing Wine (and thus also have to provide the(ir modified) Wine source code).
latent mural
[quadro rtx] β’Hardware support for USB Type-Cβ’ and VirtualLinkβ’(1)
wonder if that will trail down to their non-quadro devices
I'd happily pay the high end gpu premium to get to use portable monitors ( i travel a lot and those use either displayport through usb-c or the horrible displaylink)
ashen spindle
yes virtual link is a standard that will be on every coming gpu that can handle VR
from nvidia at least
latent mural
oh that was implicitly stated by nvidia?
ashen spindle
thats what the companies agreed on that decided on the virtual link standard
oculus, valve, nvidia etc. just dont remember if amd was part of it or not
granted they could still "seal" it off and only let it work as virtual link but I doubt that
latent mural
amd was not part of the consortium
oh wait it was
i misread
but if i read https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/new-open-industry-standard-introduced-for-connecting-next-generation-vr-headsets-to-pcs-other-devices there's no real commitment
ports after all fall on the AIBs
i fear it might not be on consumer cards this (next) generation
a 21.6 inch portable OLED monitor is supposed to come from Asus this year
"under 1 thousand usd"
Damn radio silence, still since CES 2018
21.6 is a strange size for portability though
with the smallest reasonable bezel it's like 48cm wide
ashen spindle
well its will be on this years consumer nvidia cards for sure
pcb is already leaked
pale sigil
im salty if the improvment is seriously big
ashen spindle
and it would make no sense to wait 2 more years for them
from virtual link you mean?
latent mural
pretty sure he means performance
pale sigil
correcto
latent mural
there are leaks now
but who knows if they are true
80 being 7% faster than current ti?
ashen spindle
yeah looks like "good" increase in performance looking at the worst looking leaks
also Turing will have opportunities to increase general performance over time with more mature dirvers making use of AI/RTX cores for other tasks
latent mural
now what does that sound like π
all that said,
those leaks were very close to their financial call
ashen spindle
yes the leaks are also less than a week away from the offical announcement lmao
and pcb etc. are leaked on multiple occasions not just one place
latent mural
looks like it wasnt super effective though
why is amd going up though, bad crypto guidance is bad for amd too
ashen spindle
nah it already shot up a while ago
think goldman sachs or one other rating company upgrade nvidia by two steps at once
and amd got upgraded too which is why they are going up
latent mural
well amd and nvidia is a rollercoaster as always, nvidia much less so in the last half year though
ashen spindle
well analyst thought vega could bring issues to nvidia LMAO thats why nvidia was rated lowly
latent mural
to me nvidia is overrated
pale sigil
in what currency
ashen spindle
well I guess they are but its kinda easy to do if you almost have a monopol in the space
pale sigil
250 euros? $?
latent mural
nonono
tall finch
stock prices
pale sigil
oh
latent mural
my next gpu will be nvidia anyway :x
can't wait any more years for amd to create a hbm-less gpu
reef patrol
Hmm.... not sure whether to get a 2080 or wait for the TI to get a foothold and force prices down.
ashen spindle
rumors are the ti will be announced at the same time this year
plush summit
i hate nvidea for the garbage the pull
iron wave
Get a Titan V. :^)
ashen spindle
yeah I really hope Intels GPUs in 2020 are a good start for them so we have some competition to bring more to the consumer
iron wave
They have tried GPUs before.
plush summit
@iron wave yeah...that way nvidea can say fuck you and release a 2080 ti thats just as fast for a fraction of the cost...and another titan v that is faster
ashen spindle
yeah, now they have a new team and try it again differently
iron wave
It was a joke.
plush summit
i really hope intel comes in with something worth drooling over
tall finch
tfw you only play old crap so new CPUs increase FPS more than GPUs
ashen spindle
a solid start is enough, theyn they can deliver punches to nvida with the coming generation
dont expect them to suddenly be #1
plush summit
amd is amd....they keep most of their stuff open, nvidea is the exclusives company that has good stuff.....and screws over the consumer as well
latent mural
there's kind of the problem of AMD gpus not existing
how can i support open stuff when they dont exist
plush summit
2 evils...amd is not innocent
im hoping intel comes in and can force them both to behave with something good
i went with amd because price to performance...and gsync monitors are expensive
ashen spindle
yep, but for the time I'll have to buy a 20xx and learn how to use the rtx cores and such
crisp spear
psh then it would just be 3 evils
plush summit
im hoping not
ashen spindle
still makes it more likely one of intel/amd is good and can keep prices down, dont see them making it worse
plush summit
but you're probably right
crisp spear
whoever is weakest at any given time is more likely to be good
will be interesting to have 3 in the game though
plush summit
cough r9 fury X cough
iron wave
The x86 Intel GPU was neat.
crisp spear
It would be interesting if intel finds a way to influence game development as much as nvidia does
iron wave
Did you know that the iGPUs smoke AMD and Nvidia GPUs in a very specific part of the pipeline?
crisp spear
I did not
latent mural
it's the part of the pipe that burns?
crisp spear
gotem
pale sigil
ram went on offerr today
latent mural
when was zen2 coming again?
ashen spindle
intels iGPU are beating everything in certain rendering acceleration, forgot for which tools, blender?
and zen2, some parts at least are coming q4 this year iirc
crisp spear
I think that's just epyc being sampled to some companies
ashen spindle
right, vega7nm this year apparently was what I was mixing it up with
crisp spear
yeah
I might finally make a desktop when ryzen 3 comes out
wish amd had better laptops though
tall finch
part of me wants to wait for Zen2 so badly
I want the dream of AMD actually taking the crown from Intel
and not just offering much better values
but I'm so impatient and the i9-9900k stands in my way π
iron wave
It's some strange transform thing, it's very specific.
Don't remember exactly what it was though.
EPYC2 should be fun.
crisp spear
maybe that transform thing will become apparent in their dGPU
inb4 meme gaming build with epyc2
iron wave
I honestly want a dual EPYC system.
crisp spear
what would you use it for?
iron wave
VMs, code compiling, servers, stuff like that.
crisp spear
I don't know much about server stuff
I heard there's some problem where you can't live migrate from intel to amd
ashen spindle
man I dont find the benchmarks that showed how good the iGPU is, damn
iron wave
But I could really use those threads.
I also want to mess with NUMA stuff.
Plus I generally have like 20+ windows open at once. Hahaha.
crisp spear
I wish I could have like 10 monitors
iron wave
That feeling when you need multiple IDEs running at once.
ashen spindle
Adobe premiere, thats where intels igpu beats everything
crisp spear
I think I failed out of my game development major because I didn't have enough monitors
ashen spindle
its depending if you do multiple at once or render them one after another, its a "recent" update where it can use the igpu power in addition, not 100% on how/why exactly
this is explaining some parts of it, if you are curious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj6rUdhmIvQ
iron wave
I wish quicksync and nvec where easier to use.
latent mural
damn this internet
"The firm's newly-inaugurated Intel Graphics Twitter account posted a teaser during the ongoing Siggraph 2018 conference on Wednesday ..."
as far as i can read
for the past hour..
latent mural
Has anyone ever travelled by air with all in ones?
iron wave
I tried to use an Intel SDK. Didn't work right.
pale sigil
pale sigil
15 minutes lmao
neat oriole
RTX2080Ti $999
pale sigil
plush summit
yeah....why i switched back to cables
tall finch
bunch of leaks for the 2000 series GPUs and I gotta say, probably the ugliest group of cards I've ever seen
plush summit
.....why care about the looks....how powerful and how long will they last is what i want to know
tall finch
all the leaks are AIB ones
I mean the looks have zero influence on my desire(or lack thereof) to buy one, I'm just saying they look really bad lol
imo of course
iron wave
Just take the cooler off and throw a water block on. :^)
reef patrol
Yup
latent mural
I'm designing a low profile pc case (box)+open testbench style pci-e supports
what's a good width? i was thinking of 7cm with no motherboard supports (would eat up around 6mm), only a piece of plastic to avoid shorting
sfx psus are 6cm, most low profile cpu coolers seem to be under 7cm
to properly design the case i need to turn off this computer...
reef patrol
I'd look at something like the Node 202 for rough dimensions.
latent mural
too big
ok, after quite a bit of measurements and sketching and planning for future gpus, the only thing that makes sense is a riser cable for the gpu
this should be a 4 hour project, compared to the 64 one i made before
hm.. what would be nice is a non-flat riser cable
seems like they will, neat
I need to design a reasonable amount of vents (will be covered from the inside with grills
iron wave
One thing I want is a low profile PCI-e riser cable so I can get to the PCI-e slot under my GPU.
Either that or one that I can use to get my GPU out of the case I guess.
Something like this looks decent, but also looks like it's far too high profile...
reef patrol
7yr olds are expensive customers π
Nothing special, but it was a fun build. Haven't done mATX in a while, but I found myself having (almost) enough spare parts lying around to build an entry gamer PC.
7400, 2x8GB 3000Mhz TridentZ RAM and a 1050ti
pale sigil
@iron wave wait that's usb 3
iron wave
It is just used because it is a standard that is somewhat cheap and rugged that happens to work for transferring PCI-e.
zenith mirage
Is that a fortnite machine mansen?