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spice portal
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@pale sigil Yes, but I can't remember if @lethal wasp was part of that conversation.

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(Not everybody reads everything.)

pale sigil
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Sorryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

latent mural
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so whats special about optical mouse switches?

pale sigil
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It looks nice

latent mural
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uhh the switches look nice?

pale sigil
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Idk I'm just blabbering

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But the mouse buttons and wheel are optical

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Don't really see any huge benefit but I'm no mouse guy

latent mural
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im guessing just longer life span?

pale sigil
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Honestly I'm so blind when it comes to mice

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I literally don't know anything about them except latency

latent mural
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i use a wacom tablet as a mouse even for gaming but i dont play competitive games

rare river
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I’m so sorry

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To hear that TwT

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Wait

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Can you

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Actually use

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Liek the pen

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For mouse imputs

latent mural
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yes, hover for movement, tap for left click, first button for scroll and second for right click

rare river
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Neat

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Track pads with out dedicated buttons suck for gaming

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Tho

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Like I used to use a MacBook Air

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And

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It was awful

latent mural
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it doesnt have touch input, only pen input

rare river
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Ya and it’s got buttons right

latent mural
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theres a dota pro that plays on a macbook with the touchpad

rare river
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TwT

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This is so sad can we get 100 like

latent mural
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thats him

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1.3k mmr which is apparently good

lethal wasp
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@spice portal I didn't but that's pretty lit man, I rarely drop in here tbh. I'll keep an eye on it, I own an aurora.

latent mural
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wtf theres a chinese guy with no fingers that has 4k mmr

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so 1.3k is not pro

latent mural
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Huh, didn't know that we already have threadripper mATX boards

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I wonder if ryzen gen 2 will have 16 cores :bonk:

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designing a half-open test-bench
will post pictures when it's done

fickle ore
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optical switches.. 90 million click lifespan compared to 10 - 20 million

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no debounce, no need to increase debounce latency in fw as switches get older, no double clicks etc

pale sigil
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(not a ref link dont worry)

haughty condor
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Clicky clicky

reef patrol
pale sigil
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Gay that

reef patrol
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Gotta have my 80s cyberpunk neon. And failing that, this. Hard to find 8K wallpapers in a pinch.

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Flight Lite. Tried Lines, but it was too hard to read icons with just outlines..

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Nice!

The Panel has such good colour compared to my Nokia. It's almost too vibrant.

latent mural
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1+ 5 masterrace

reef patrol
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Still not 100% on this launcher though. Square home 2. Initially wanted my old Windows Phone tile look, but Square home forced me to have icons everywhere, since they show the wallpaper. Blank space was black. I could do with half the icons rbh.

Buuuut bedtime. This is functioning for now

zenith mirage
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Not shown in screenshot, the notch at the top. Thought it'd be annoying but I barely notice it

haughty condor
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Oh that's nice Tino

haughty condor
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Now to learn all the buttons...

reef patrol
solar hinge
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you can no longer use amazon pay on humble bundle? @pale sigil

void linden
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just got flash 8 to work on ubuntu

spice portal
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Why would anyone want to try and get any version of Flash working in this day and age? Just let it R.I.P. :NotLikeThis:

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Use HTML5 and JavaScript instead if you must do such stuff. At least those are open standards.

void linden
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no

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frick off.

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I love Flash.

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Flash for life.

fickle ore
void linden
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damn

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that marketing looks sweet

fickle ore
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Get it, if you need a new mouse. It's probably going to be the best one technically 😛

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I bet some pro csgo/overwatch player will use it

neat oriole
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IE 4.0

fickle ore
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Is the Beta shape WMO?

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Personally gonna use the Alpha unless I really like the Beta but will be definitely interesting to try them all 😄

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I hope it gets funded but I'm lil scared

reef patrol
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Boiz.

void linden
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damn

void linden
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d a m n

reef patrol
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TPB is dead though. It's all decentralized (further) on clones though 😄

void linden
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True

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But wow

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And I thought my torrent website was used too much

zenith mirage
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Oi sonny, you got a loicense for that piracy

void linden
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Yes

solar hinge
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With a face like that, he could be hanged as a pirate

void linden
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Excuse me, @solar hinge

solar hinge
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you're excused

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i mean executed

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😛

void linden
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What?

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@solar hinge

solar hinge
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just messing with you 😃

void linden
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o h

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Why you don't like my cat's face tho?

solar hinge
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haha i dont dislike it 😛 no worries about that 😄

pale sigil
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Why is this even on my YouTube, both of them

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Also how does the first video even have 92m views jesus christ

latent mural
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you need free vbucks

pale sigil
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I don't even play Fortniteeee

latent mural
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Comment & Like for Free vBucks !

pale sigil
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Damn corsair make you pay for rma shipping

neat oriole
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at least you got to that step

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my CS rep either didn't understand what I was saying and was just replying with yes over and over again or it was a bot

pale sigil
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Oh it took like 3 hours to approve lol

zenith mirage
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Might need to RMA my RAM

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I'm fairly certain it's buggered

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So hopefully corsair are nicer to me

reef patrol
latent mural
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I have a rather silly question but how much the anti-ghosting is defined?

fervent plaza
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There is none. Our matrix design is different so it's not a problem for us @latent mural

fathom lynx
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seems about right

latent mural
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If you have gamer mice to advise me I am taker. Knowing that I already collect 10 different mice (logitech, razer, steelseries, roccat...). So if you know "the" gamer mouse with a lot of functionality or unusual stuff like wooting; tell me.

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@digital cliff I want to say both, but still more the performance

haughty condor
latent mural
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I'm looking at this.

haughty condor
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You got this one?

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the thumb switch for scrolling is nice

latent mural
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Yeah the Tyon ?

haughty condor
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leadr

latent mural
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Okay, great. I'll check it out. Thank you tino

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Oh yeah the fact of being able to customize everything and really nice, more than knowing when his fate at the sale

fickle ore
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Yeah really get the Ninox Astrum Kass, we need your contribution

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I already got it myself 😃

fickle ore
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I really need this mouse man!

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😃

pale sigil
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the hell is wrong with my router

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it assigned 3 of the same ips

fickle ore
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Callum get the mouse damnit its 73% funded

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😄

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ONE LEFT -20%!

pale sigil
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no u

fickle ore
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btw did you had any good DKS setting for BDO?

pale sigil
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ded gam

fickle ore
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u ar

pale sigil
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sold my account for 400 quid

void linden
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Wow

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I'm impressed

pale sigil
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why

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it was worth way miore

void linden
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Getting a motherboard, RAM and a CPU is cheaper to get in Russia than to get it shipped from Spain

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Oh

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What game

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BDO?

pale sigil
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ofc it is

void linden
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What is that game

pale sigil
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russian currency is trash

void linden
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It indeed is

pale sigil
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and black desert online

void linden
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When I look at the numbers im like

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Oh shit calculus again

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I mean

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A motherboard for 13000

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means it's ~~170€

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But damn

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That's cheaper than even in Spain

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An 8086K for 419€

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or 31,000

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lol

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'Hard Drive'

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I mean

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Not many computer novices would buy an 860

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that don't even know what an ssd is

pale sigil
zenith mirage
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It's trash

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Unless you want to just launch a game, it's bad

rugged zenith
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thats why i play games on pc xD

pale sigil
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@rugged zenith Well i bought and jailbroken this ps4 for its games

void linden
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PC MASTER RACE

pale sigil
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Fam, dont get me started on that cult shit

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i haven't owned a console in many years and is till dont say that shit

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ps4 was the first console in many years

void linden
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I also have a PS4

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but

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PC master race

pale sigil
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🤦

void linden
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lol

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I mean

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I'm not insulting you

pale sigil
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I know you just make me cringe

void linden
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yep

pale sigil
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You're now a special snowflake

timid chasm
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Has there been mention of DDR5 out there? Somebody asked me about it but I dont remember reading anything

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and I know you nerds keep up with that cough @reef patrol cough

reef patrol
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Considering the shortage of DDR4, no one's interested in DDR5 quite yet.

timid chasm
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I didn't figure so but thought I should check

latent mural
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@reef patrol Well thats half true

timid chasm
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Oh. they're asking about a new build and don't wanna be behind. Fuck that buying DDR5 would bloooooooooow

tall finch
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2020 is the timeframe I've heard for DDR5

latent mural
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Its a shortage of silicon, not "DDR4" per se, and now with Samsing Hynix TMCS( or what ever they are called) getting sued for cartell building prices

reef patrol
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Yes...and no.

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Samsung, Hynix and other manufacturers are producing less than there's demand for - And there are accusations of cartel. Nothing final though.
Anyhow - Given how little the performance boost is from DDR3 to 4, there hasn't really been much industry push for a faster DDR5 alternative. Especially given how expensive it would be to push out right now.

latent mural
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However, feels like they will have to implement a n ESRAM component soon. Bandwith will be epic with DDR5, but the latency is gonna be insane

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Well, hasnt there? Those 3 companies own 90% (?) of the market, Ive got a feeling they can manipulate it as they want. Expensive DDR4 and "the so called no demand" both gives them an economic cash cow without really develope the standard further or aim for a new one. Double pay for tech staying longer than intened aswell as they wont have to develop and build new factories

timid chasm
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GN claims DDR5 possible by 2022. Should've just checked them cause tech jesus never lets me down

reef patrol
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Most of the time* 😅

timid chasm
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Truth

latent mural
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How is it, GDDR4 is built out of DDR3, and GDDR5 from DDR4. So DDR5 and GDDR6 should be arriving "about" the same time

reef patrol
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Nanometer is becoming increasingly hard to keep shrinking for one.

latent mural
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Hey all! I tried my luck on reddit but thought I'd ask you guys as well. Recently I made a big mistake, selling my RX580 to get a used Vega 56. Turned out the card was not working and the seller has blocked any means I had to contact him. Anyway, to the point. The card receives power normally (as it seems) but won't display anything which makes me thing the previous owner messed up a BIOS flash. Any one has had a similar issue before? I'm waiting on a friend to borrow me his old GPU so I can try and flash the stock Vega 56 to my card and prey to Gaben it works. Any suggestions are more than welcome, I've been missing my PC the last two weeks and it's really painful. Thanks!

reef patrol
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A Bios flash definitely sounds like the way to go.

latent mural
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so you checked all of the voltages?

latent mural
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@latent mural ..me?

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Vega 56 doesn't display anything so I'm not even able to boot!

tall finch
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what makes you think its the bios and not just broken

reef patrol
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Pre-owned. Lot of people tried to mod Vega 56s

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It's worth a try.

tall finch
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its definitely worth a shot

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I had an rx 480 that had a mining bios flashed on it and wouldnt install drivers

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from ebay

latent mural
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@latent mural i mean just disassemble it, get a voltage meter and check if all the common voltages are there

tall finch
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flashed a stock bios and it worked fine til I sold it during the next mining boom lol

latent mural
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there as in on the board

reef patrol
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That's a LOT of research and work, nt 😅

latent mural
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not really if you can find schematics online

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@nt thanks for the advice! If everything else fails I'll probably end up trying that as well!

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@tall finch mining bios? Really? Wow. I just hope the Bios flash will make it work. If not, I'll also try the 1+8 method then if this fails as well I'll probably accept defeat...

haughty condor
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this is fantastic

latent mural
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0x42

reef patrol
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Mining BIOS tends to be clocked lower, with less power use. It's not about raw horsepower for mining.

latent mural
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Okay, so I've just booted using my friends r9. God, I missed my PC. Just installed drivers and I'm about to power off and install Vega on second PCIE to check if it's being recognized in device manager, then I'll make a bootable USB stick with atiflash and once again prey this all works. I'll be back with updates!

sudden glacier
timid chasm
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HOW DOES THAT EVEN HAPPEN

pale sigil
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source

haughty condor
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I got wood..

neat oriole
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What time is it?

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Anywhere between 10 to 5 minutes to 2

reef patrol
tiny tide
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what kinda desk is that, looks cool

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I only find 90 degree corner desks when I look around GWfroggyPepoThink

reef patrol
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But iit's a HUGE step up from sitting at my workshop table, which did not really lend itself to gaming.

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It wasn't bad, but it left a weird open space on the right that I could use better. 😃

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Hehehe. I need the space for reviews and PC hardware. My office is basically part gaming room, part review / workshop space.

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Got two full size PC Cases in boxes below the table as shown above. Before that they were stacked in a corner.,

tall finch
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I can clutter any desk, regardless of the size

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I had a tiny desk forever and it was so full stuff would fall off constantly

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swapped to a massive 8ft by 4ft plywood desk and its still so full I knock stuff off 🙁

void linden
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hey

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can anyone help me with some programming

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@ me

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on discord.js

latent mural
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what is it @void linden

void linden
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weeell

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now it's fixed

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got some errors about message.content.include

opaque temple
reef patrol
opaque temple
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I already ordered one 😄

reef patrol
haughty condor
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Ooh

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That'll match my half-life lambda

pale sigil
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So expensive

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xD

latent mural
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and what do you mean by weird format @lapis linden

lapis linden
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It looks like :ADDR OPCODE ARGS

latent mural
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huh wtf

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could you show

lapis linden
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:1000000081C10000A5C10000A3C10000A1C1000082

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There's the first line

latent mural
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oh i see

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have you looked at what the utility does with that input?

lapis linden
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It just dumps it to the keyboard as far as I can tell

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The file is bigger than the ROM on the microcontroller, which is really confusing

latent mural
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that means it's either encrypted or not compiled even

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or both

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i'll take a look tomorrow

lapis linden
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Alrighty

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I'll look at the utility

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Try and see if it does something else to it

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You need the FW DL url?

latent mural
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no not really

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i'd rather dump the firmware from memory before it gets uploaded to the board

pale sigil
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:)

lapis linden
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Sure

latent mural
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oh i don't have that role

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neither do i have my wooting one yet

lapis linden
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Mine is still shipping

latent mural
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same

pale sigil
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Oh

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If its wooting firmware released (dev firmware) then it seems best to keep it in the dev channel

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Links etc

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I honestly don't know much about what you're talking about 😂

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Just ignore me and carry on

latent mural
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is the firmware opensource?

lapis linden
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Doesn't look like it

pale sigil
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Noticed its a general discussion sorry xD

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You can download most of the tools via dev portal

lapis linden
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Oh there's nice comments in the FW flashing code :D

pale sigil
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Firmware is also available via the updater tool

lapis linden
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There's a seperate updater tool?

pale sigil
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Yes

latent mural
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oh so it's basically hackable out of the box

pale sigil
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For the dev firmware on the wooting itself

latent mural
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that's cool

lapis linden
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intel_hex__["parse"](data)

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That explains the weird format

pale sigil
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I'm really badat explaining this baba

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I only really do Web coding

lapis linden
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So where can we find the updater tool?

pale sigil
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@lapis linden @latent mural updater tool is in pinned post

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On the dev channel

latent mural
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i am a security researcher 😄

lapis linden
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Looks like it's only Windows :(

latent mural
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oh it has an analog sdk

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okay

pale sigil
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The updater is atm ye

latent mural
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i'll do what valve should've done

pale sigil
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That's a good point actually

lapis linden
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Is there sauce code for that? :P

pale sigil
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Best asking questions on the dev channel tbh I can't stress enough how little I know about software

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XD

latent mural
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i'll implement analog walking without joystick stuff, lol.

lapis linden
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Haha OK

latent mural
fervent plaza
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@lapis linden I think you're looking at the firmware file in this format: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_HEX

Intel HEX is a file format that conveys binary information in ASCII text form. It is commonly used for programming microcontrollers, EPROMs, and other types of programmable logic devices. In a typical application, a compiler or assembler converts a program's source code (such...

fickle ore
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Won't be as good as the Astrum, Kass 😄

latent mural
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I don't know too much in real the two are quite different...Then I find that the Astrum is very low-end or at least the design gives a non robust side

tall finch
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I had a Swiftpoint Z and I liked it other than the fact it was so crazy expensive

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and I had trouble breaking 4 years of G502 muscle memory

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I wound up returning it but it was really cool, just couldnt justify the premium over "normal" mice considering I wound up not using the tilt function at all

latent mural
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What do you mean? You went from a Logitech G502 to SwiftPoint Z and then you went back?

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Because I'm currently playing with the G502 and it's really not bad.

fickle ore
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Astrum is made with all the highest end components + special attention is given into F/W to reduce latency

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It's basically the dream mouse for gaming that require precision

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The pictures of the Astrum on the Indiegogo aren't what its' going to look like in final, because the pictures are of a 3D printed model to show the concept

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But, if you want the Swiftpoint for the Analog, GL!

latent mural
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No what I mean is that the only interesting point is the fact that it is totally customizable but its sense and equivalent to that of today's steelseries so...

fickle ore
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Yep, firmware optimized for lowest latency possible. Even lower than Logitech current offering. He will also expose some other sensor settings on the software that you can adjust

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Optical switches + adjustable sensor position + adjustable shell + adjustable side clicks ^^^

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I think it's heaven tbh, it's only 79% funded and 21 days left

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Don't forget the weight too. It's very light, around 70g for Alpha and below 80g even for the ergo(biggest) shape + side clicks

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He used OEM shapes for his 2 previous mice. For this mice, it's completely designed in-house in England and with the indiegogo he gets the tooling needed (40k $), and the factory is like 30min drive from his home, he checks there often. It should NOT have any of the flimsy shell OEM designs usually have

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"One of the main goals during the design of the Astrum was a high quality and sturdy feel,"

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hehe, we will see I guess

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"-Click latency seems to be really great though, it beats the Venator on the bounce test by 10-16ms consistently. I don't know exactly how much faster it is, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was 10ms faster.
-WAIT WHAT?
The Venator had a pretty nice click latency which shows up on the spreadsheet at 4.5ms slower than the ikari.
Even when I tested it myself I found the clicks latency was what I would consider the "Gold Standard"."

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Should be nice AWP mouse 😄

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here's the spreadsheet for anyone wondering

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Check this crap Tino, it's unacceptable:
Roccat Kone Pure 10ms fw1.19 fw1.20 is 38.7ms

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the increasing for debounce latency in newer firmwares is something most manufacturers do, even logitech, because as switch ages the more it will double click so it's a way to prevent noticeable double clicks -> less RMA

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Think most companies aside from Logitech just order mouse from chinese factories where chinese workers create the FW anyways

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and just brand it

latent mural
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38ms

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holy shit

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that's almost 2 frames, given that your framerate is 60fps

fickle ore
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Yep, it's very bad

solar hinge
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i want a high quality mouse with a lot of side buttons :p

tall finch
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I just want a mouse with similar button placement to the G502

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before mine finally dies lol

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I could just buy another G502 but thats boring

fickle ore
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I think the ninox Astrum Beta Ergonomic would fit you Weedyabuss

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the rightmost one

latent mural
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the alpha one looks so uncomfy

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wtf

fickle ore
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Huh? It's the best shape ever

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Logitech G1

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Legendary shape

latent mural
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i like the shape of my rival 700

fickle ore
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yeah its pretty nnice

latent mural
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the oled display is so useless though

fickle ore
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Steelseries has better shapes than newer logitech shapes Imo

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😄

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this is the legendary logitech bj58 - best shape ever

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same as g1 pretty much.. So the Alpha is modeled after it

latent mural
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my da2013 has been pretty much the most comfy shape of mouse I've used

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using g502 now

zenith mirage
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That ergonomic looks cosy

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Don't like smaller mice

fickle ore
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You can even turn the ledge on the other side if u want, if ur left handed

zenith mirage
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That's handy

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No pun intended

fickle ore
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😃

zenith mirage
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Although my left hand is crippled so I'm a righty by nature and necessity

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Still, nice mouse. I'd be tempted if I could afford it

latent mural
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hm 👀 I'm thinking I might get thhhhhhe astrum

fickle ore
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Do eet

zenith mirage
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I take it you're associated with this company nagga? Or are you just a mega fan?

fickle ore
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I am not, I knew that question would come up

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Just need it bad

zenith mirage
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Haha, fair enough

latent mural
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I'm usually not too picky about what my mice cost, I use them a lot

zenith mirage
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Only had two mice in my time on the PC, both deathadders. Branching out might be cool

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Although I only got the second because I RMAd the first after it finally died

fickle ore
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I can't use mouse like DA/502, Ive got a RSI which get worse the more the mouse weighs. There arent many lightweight mice on the market. Only 2 new companies basically

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Ninox Astrum and Finalmouse

latent mural
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I haven't chosen a mouse myself in a while, I've usually asked my mouse man for what I should get 👀 he's watched me play comp for a whhhhile so he knows what I want. I think I've gone mx518 --> g400 --> da2013 --> g502. used da2013 and mx518 for a long time. I used mice before thhhhhose but I didn't really pay attention to what I got then. logitech g3 was terrible, it had so low error speed

fickle ore
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haha glad those days are past, nowadays malfuction speed is over 6.5m/s I believe

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Isn't the g502 something like 150g weight?

tall finch
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with the weights its up there

latent mural
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hm haven't really looked at it in detail, just measured with my ancient kitchen thhing which shhhhhhhows about 10-20% too little depending on thhe weight it's 120g

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I bought it because I wanted a bit of weight for stability in case I need to pixelhunt

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in mouse pads high dynamic friction and low static friction is ideal for me

fickle ore
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in fps games low weight is basically optimal

latent mural
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depends on the role you're doing 👀 if it's a twitch type thing thhen yea

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I guess you can do a more precision role with a lighter mouse if you got the mousepad for it

fickle ore
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Yup

inner ivy
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still wishing for a mouse with an analog thumbstick

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the couple that exist are all digital garbage

latent mural
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the allsop mousepad with raindrops on it is kinda insane but it's hard to get your hands on in eu

inner ivy
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Why not just make your own mousepad?

fickle ore
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Vegetables, it goes by different name in EU

latent mural
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👀 really

fickle ore
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Allsop GigaPad XL

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I have it

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it's uglier than raindrop but actually a few cm bigger

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it's even better I guess

latent mural
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hm it has a diff picture, is it thhe same surface type

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allsop tends to have diff surface types on different imaged ones for some reason, at least when I looked at them in thhe US

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also about making my own mousepad, I haven't really found any material that has thhe type of friction properties I want in a mousepad

fickle ore
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Maybe it's different I dont knoww really

latent mural
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goliathus control and allsop raindrop xl were pretty good

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used to use a qck+ but thhhe surface on that died pretty fast, static friction started increasing and killing my pixel hunting ability

fickle ore
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I want Artisan FX Hayate Kou XL

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but OOS

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if u have fat mouse u want a bit faster pad than you would with a low weight mouse. I'm searching for high friction, might aswell get G-SR

latent mural
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I don't really mind going high friction on this g502 as long as it has low static friction 👀

void linden
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hey

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can anyone run my discord bot?

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:3

inner ivy
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there aren't many mouse pads large enough for the sensitivity I use in games, so I don't generally even use a pad

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my desk looks like garbage though now as a result, I need to resurface it

void linden
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anyone?

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24/7 computer on?

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or anyone know what's the directory of Termux

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on Android

zenith mirage
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Have you considered the full desk type mats @inner ivy?

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If you have the space required to make use of one effectively

inner ivy
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I use about 26 x 16 inches, the ones I looked at for also having keyboards on them weren't deep enough

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I set my deathadder to 220 dpi and the sensitivity in-game to need about 16 inches to 180

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it takes deliberate effort to take my cursor off a persons head

latent mural
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@void linden is it in js?

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i can make you a user on my vps

inner ivy
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I dunno man, UT takes a lot of vertical aiming

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I also need wiggle room for when I recenter because sometimes I'll drift towards the top-right

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My wrist is basically useless

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it's all arm

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though funnily enough, I am a terrible sniper

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I used to be super high sensitivity

fickle ore
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There's a point where speed > precision in FPS games, depending on the target hitbox and hurtbox of your bullet

inner ivy
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then I learned how much better the arm is at precision and went all in on it

fickle ore
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It's basically just maths

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Thats why low weight > high weight

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and optimal sens > low sens

inner ivy
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I can move my arm to 180 within a frame

fickle ore
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most ppl in arena fps use medium sens, the top ppl, and some of them use linear acceleration

inner ivy
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I have played with some scary shooters

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his advice was to find the sensitivity you can best play Osu at

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and for me that's basically my desk

reef patrol
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OSU is played with touch, not mouse 😄

void linden
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@latent mural yes it is

fickle ore
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Converting 2D sens to 3D sens is fun

inner ivy
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You can play it with a mouse, you'll just do worse

reef patrol
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It's like playing shooters with a controller 😄

inner ivy
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It is, but I play it more for shootery practice

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my aim improved pretty drastically

reef patrol
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Touch = Tablet in my argument 😄

inner ivy
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I knew there were some top 10s that use mouse but I didn't know there was a #1

void linden
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What is osu btw

inner ivy
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I haven't kept up though, my Osu knowledge is super out of date

latent mural
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I care more about the weight balance of the mouse than the weight itself 👀 my arm already weighs a bunch, 50 grams here or there isn't going to do that much to it. I guess the main thing is the level of control vs. how a snap feels, swiping is roughly the same for me on lighter vs. heavier mouse but snapping is a bit better for me on lighter mice

inner ivy
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a fun free game about clicking colored circles

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it's exactly like playing a sniper in TF2

latent mural
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as long as the weight of the mouse is within a certain threshold for me I don't care very much

reef patrol
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If the Sniper was operating a heavy caliber machinegun maybe 😄

latent mural
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I guess the sens you use also factors into high vs. low weight mouse

fickle ore
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Somewhat

latent mural
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don't need as precise control for low sens

inner ivy
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the whole point of low sens is that you don't need to be as precise

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you're literally just making all the targets bigger

fickle ore
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you've got that wrong

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Low sens = precision, but speed disadvantage

latent mural
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he's talking not about what you get by using it, but what you need to use it

inner ivy
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The speed disadvantage is honestly overstated

latent mural
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lower sens allowing better precision but needing lower precision by the user is two sides of the same coin

inner ivy
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yup

void linden
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:pingsoc:

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Pingish Socialism

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Ping for everybody

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That's a nice meme idea

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Pls no steal

inner ivy
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Man, I remember when I started playing shooters

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my average ping was 400+

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I have no idea how I enjoyed it

latent mural
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hm, I think I'm gonna try a lighter mouse for a bit

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got a g100s lying around

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I usually like doing about 200 degrees without moving my arm

tall finch
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same

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many years ago I swapped sens every week or two trying to find "perfect"

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now I've been using the same one for 4 years and I'm better than ever

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even if its way too high for some ppl

inner ivy
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Honestly, comfort makes a huge difference in performance

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Unless you aim with your arm

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Some people aim elbow up and some people aim with the whole arm

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also the crazy high sens people just use wrists

fickle ore
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lol

inner ivy
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yeah, but you can intuit that through what's comfortable

fickle ore
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probably

latent mural
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I thhhink you develop a bunch of habits anyway that make those things a bit different for you

inner ivy
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honestly, things like seating and desk height also make a HUGE difference in comfort

latent mural
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I used to use my mouse so that it points to the left, and my elbow is on the right and I'm kinda leaning over the table

inner ivy
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people just don't talk about it as much because it doesn't get plugged into a computer

fickle ore
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That's true

latent mural
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atm I aim 50% elbow, like about halfway 👀 I support my forearm against my table and use it as a lever type deal, elbow is a bit too long for me

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arming is a bit easier than elbowing for me

fickle ore
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I use wrist for precision and arm for longer movements

latent mural
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I used to do about 180cm/360 on my sentinel sens when I played comp

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that's also why I hunted for high dynamic friction mousepads and heavier mice

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don't need as low sens if you have better control

inner ivy
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90 cm to 180 is huge

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how do you even turn

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do you have one of those L shaped desks and just have the one section entirely mouse space?

latent mural
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hm then I used 200 - 400 - 800 dpi settings on my g400, so when I had to fend off someone between spotting and precision sniping that needed pixel hunting I used 800 dpi, that was pretty normal sens-wise

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Or one of those desk that came on the market a few years back, on which the entirety of the desk top was mousepad

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what is that, 45cm/360?

inner ivy
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yeah, more like that

latent mural
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even tried playing at 40 fov at one point so I could see what I was hunting for better lmao

inner ivy
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High FOV 4 lyfe

latent mural
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I usually use somethhing like 103 fov

inner ivy
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so far Dusk is the only game I play where I don't max the FOV

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I forget the max

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it's silly

latent mural
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low fov kinda makes me nauseous 👀

inner ivy
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yeah, max in Dusk is 150

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that's just silly

latent mural
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I want 360 fov

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I think I could learn that

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if games used it

inner ivy
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If I had multiple monitors I could probably go up to 360 over 3 monitors

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dunno where I'd have room for my mouse though

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maybe they'd have to be wall mounted

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what about it?

void linden
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I mean, this is tech

spice portal
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That seems like a very inefficient way to do something that's basically an automated job…

void linden
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True

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I will just make a form thingy

void linden
spice portal
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Why don't you just plug it into Wikipedias API directly? Or have it do Google searches automatically and extract Wikipedia results?

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There shouldn't need to be any human input for this.

pale sigil
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And tbh form seems not necessary

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Check out discord severs

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I'm in a few programming ones

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Very helpful

latent mural
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do you srsly need to order artisan mousepads from japan 👀 shipping is always so expensive from there

latent mural
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oh looks like they're 50-70 euros in eu anyway, might as well order from japan

fickle ore
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which one you getitng?

latent mural
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gonna wait until they release their new lineup next month

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but zero, hien and the hayates are looking interesting 👀 something like hien soft

fickle ore
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Which new Lineup?

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I havent seen any new announcement

latent mural
fickle ore
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that's low budget one, get the fx-series

pale sigil
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Can't even read that m8

latent mural
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oh yea it actually says that it's for cost-sensitive users 👀 didn't read too closely

latent mural
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oh yeah I got an astrum

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or ordered anyway

timid chasm
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Do any (many) modern devices not use 802.11ac?

solar hinge
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IOT

haughty condor
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yeah most smarthome stuff is n

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partly cost savings, partly for range

lethal wasp
halcyon moss
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what makes it so good?

latent mural
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I was listening at the point where they said something along of the lines of a 3360 with custom, fine-tuned firmware ❤

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tbh I had just been thinking of getting a low-weight mouse

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but at the point where they're worried about firmware latency which is a real issue, you know they know their mice

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flexible cable is interesting for me too, I often have an issue where my cable has either too little or too much slack and it springs against stuff or I have to drag it 👀 with a bit more flexible a cable I could give it a bit of slack and use it more comfortably because it wouldn't (hopefully) spring against my keyboard

fickle ore
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Im so happy if it gets made, knowing I don't have to worry about double clicks

tall finch
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gimme one of those with more buttons and I'd back it in a heartbeat

fickle ore
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What do you mean?

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It has the possibility of 4 additional sidebuttons, 2 on left and 2 on right side ;:D

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Or is that not enough, do you mean like a MMO mouse with 20+ buttons?

tall finch
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I need 6 buttons plus the usual left/right/middle

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I guess I dont NEED that many but thats what I use on my G502

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3 on side, 2 on top and the scroll wheel left/right

haughty condor
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How about this many

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Plus one that lets you have two commands on each button

tall finch
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what mouse is that

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nvm I found it

haughty condor
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Is good, just kinda heavy because of the battery

tall finch
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tbh if I was gonna go wireless I'd just get the G903

haughty condor
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I look forward to binding the top lean lever to lean left/right so I don't have to use q/e

tall finch
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but the button placement on the G903 is wack

haughty condor
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I need to get a Logitech media contact

tall finch
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I just want a G502 that is slightly lighter pretty much

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I could just drill mine out but I'm lazy

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the shape is also kinda wonky but I'm stockholm syndrome'd at this point and like it

fickle ore
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Well, the astrum has also a dpi button below the scrollwheel, I guess you can change the function on the software

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+4 side buttons : )

tall finch
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I might back it anyway tbh

fickle ore
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Incase you do, I hope you end up liking it. It should be below 80g even in it's fattest configuration

tall finch
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even if I dont like it, wouldnt be the most expensive mistake I've made trying to find a new mouse :)

fickle ore
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For me, even 85g is too heavy, I can't game very long. But at around 65-70g I feel nothing wrong with my wrist and can flick very fast

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I'm not actually weak, just RSI in the wrist I think

tall finch
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I feel ya

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I like lighter mice but I cant find any that have a good sensor AND the right number of buttons/placement of buttons

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its like a pick 2: weight, sensor, buttons

fickle ore
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I'm accelerating faster than 4m/s during my flicks, it must be pretty hard for my wrist with the g-forces

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Ahh, you want the 3360 sensor?

tall finch
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doesnt have to be that, just a "perfect" sensor

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I found a couple mice that were light+good buttons but they had trash sensors

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not even "technically imperfect but still fine", like actual garbage

fickle ore
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I think, if you want a low weight mouse, good buttons and many of them, there's only Ninox Astrum

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if you're fine with lower amount of buttons, Final Mouse Ultralight

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it's about 67-70g weight, Ultralight I mean

tall finch
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I was really close to buying an Ultralight but the lack of buttons kept me from spending on it

fickle ore
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Both using the 3360 sensor

tall finch
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(and they were out of stock when I was gonna buy them too, and by the time they came back in stock I had decided against it)

fickle ore
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I see. 😃

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I don't think you'll ever find a low weight mouse with top tier sensor, clicks, with that many side buttons I am afraid

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Astrum comes closest with 4 side buttons + dpi button you can reconfigure

tall finch
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its just frustrating because they're usually so close

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like "if this mouse had one more button in this spot" or "if they just used a good sensor in this mouse, it'd be perfect"

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but alas, I'm too picky

fickle ore
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I hear ya

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Just get the astrum mate and try to live with 5 extra buttons lol

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IIRC, the alpha configuration without sidebuttons is 70g or could be even abit below

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Best part is, You can swap it in 1 minute lol

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I might even swap the sidebuttons in for MMO session, swap em out for FPS session

tall finch
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I've thought about trying to do an ultralight mod on my 502 but I'm lazy

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cant shave all that much weight off either unless I really put in work

fickle ore
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The logitech construction is just too complex you can't shave that much off, even with swiss cheese mod 😄

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Open it and check theres so much unnecessary shit inthere

tall finch
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I liked the ultralight "mod" for the G100s

fickle ore
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On the g902? They actually used weight reducing methods on construction

tall finch
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where you just open it up and remove one big ass weight and it drops like 30g

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but its not so good of a mouse otherwise lol

fickle ore
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I never understood that, companies actually put 10-20g metal piece inside to make it more heavy wtf

tall finch
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well with the G100s its probably borderline too light without it

fickle ore
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isnt it around 65g without

tall finch
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not sure the exact weight

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didnt bug me but some people said they had problems

fickle ore
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I don't think a maouse can be too light because youre already resting an arm on it which weights alot

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or atleast thats what I believe

tall finch
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ye

fickle ore
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Think we need 17% mor for it to be funded, bst said 600$ a day should get it funded, we have 19 days left 😄

latent mural
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you mouse can definitely be too light, the imprecision in your movements will just go right to the mouse if it's light enough 👀 and you'd need lower sens to use a mouse that light to compensate for it

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you lose stability

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you can kinda go too far trying to get rid of static friction, you'll lose dynamic friction as well

fickle ore
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But you can just compensate with a different surface with high friction

haughty condor
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ugh high friction surfaces are terribad

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so used to my razer sphex that hard to use anything else

fickle ore
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low weight + high friction = gud

latent mural
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I usually have a hard time getting enough dynamic friction if the mouse is really light 🤔

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low static & high dynamic friction is the holy grail of gaming

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but I guess you can compensate the lightness of a mouse by lowering sens

latent mural
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yea 👀 I was talking in terms of the concept, not absolute values of the coefficients

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high static friction is lethal to precision and low dynamic friction is lethal to stability

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I tried pixel hunting with a worn-out qck+ for a while and it was horrible, static friction was so high that when I tried to change direction I got a jump

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basically shooting at targets so small that you can barely see them. that's why I call it pixel hunting, literally hunting for pixels with a hitscan sniper rifle

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I played sentinel for a tribes ascend team

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I guess the issue is really: 1) is friction high enough to maintain stability and 2) how much higher static friction is than dynamic friction, is it enough to cause instability in the initial movement

fickle ore
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Low weight mice do not have performance affecting static friction on any high friction surface

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I like some static friction, it increases stability

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small tremor in hand doesn't make the cursor shift 😛

latent mural
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I guess had the dynamic friction been high enough there I wouldn't have had issues pixelhunting 🤔 I think µs=µk would probably be ideal for single pixel level fine control

fickle ore
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I am not sure which friction kinetic or static has more to do with natural mouse stopping, or rather the ease of stopping with flickshots

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Higher Static friction probably makes stopping easier

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What headache? 😛

latent mural
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with stopping snap type shots' mouse movement, dynamic friction will help 👀 static friction isn't really relevant since you're moving already if you're stopping. static friction is relevant when trying to get the mouse moving from still

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when starting to move the mouse, the smaller the relative "hill" of static friction µs you need to overcome in order to move it is, the smoother the start will be

fickle ore
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Should also apply for stopping if it applies for starting

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there's probably threshold at some point when it switches from kinetic to static as it becomes slow enough

latent mural
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static friction is called static because it is applied to object-surface combos that are at rest

fickle ore
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Yes, there's a threshold, but it goes both ways

latent mural
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if the mouse is moving the object isn't at rest

fickle ore
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Thanks Tino, you studying physics btw?

latent mural
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that depends on the dynamic friction coefficient, not the static one. they can be varying relative values

fickle ore
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My logic agrees with you Tino

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This is why I'm probably naturally looking for pads with higher friction, since my playstyle revolves around very fast flicks that I need to stop fast

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He's playing with a G305, took off the shell to reduce weight by 7g 😛

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Hiko, the CSGO pro you know?

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or used to be atleast

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😄

latent mural
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when it comes to stopping distance, static friction is basically only relevant for tires where the surface isn't sliding. it would be odd for the static friction "hill" to appear when stopping an object which is sliding

fickle ore
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Just funny to see what kind of lengths at people will go. Take shell off, lol

latent mural
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I think I saw someone with a mouse that had a bunch of holes drilled through it

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it would come to a stop when kinetic friction (aka sliding friction) uses up its movement

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yea, that is actually why cars stop a lot faster when their tires aren't skidding/sliding, the static friction is stronger than the dynamic friction so stopping without skidding (static friction) is better than stopping while skidding (kinetic friction)

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I've had a bunch of time to think about these since I do engineer work 👀 though I mostly thought about these in university

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hah

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I saw someone looking for a teflon mousepad

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what would that even be like to use with teflon feet

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leave your mouse on the mousepad when you go to work and you'll have to go outside to find it after you come home

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hm yeah, there's a point of "good enough" in many things

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it depends a lot on how you use it

fickle ore
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Uhh, I don't know what you're saying

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sec

latent mural
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I saw one quake person get a teflon tape roll and put new tape every day under their mouse when they were playing comp

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to maintain the same feel for the mouse every day

fickle ore
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purple guy | tino: so static friction doesn't affect stopping?
[18:33] Vegetables: yea, that is actually why cars stop a lot faster when their tires aren't skidding/sliding, the static friction is stronger than the dynamic friction so stopping without skidding (static friction) is better than stopping while skidding (kinetic friction)

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What do you mean?

latent mural
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hm 👀

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like how?

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I don't know what you're asking

fickle ore
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Im' reading this you're saying yes, static friction doesn't affect stopping but you're saying stopping is faster with static friction than kinetic in your next sentence

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O.O

latent mural
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ah yeah, I see your confusion

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yea

fickle ore
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But he's arguing 30 mins ago that, there's still static friction on the start of the movement

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eventhough is sliding surface

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tires are obviously static in their behaviour when rolling

latent mural
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of course 👀 when there isn't sliding, static friction applies

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when two surfaces are sliding against each other, kinetic friction applies

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when stopping, two surfaces are sliding against each other and when starting the movement, there is no movement until the static friction has been overcome

fickle ore
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Conversely, when you're stopping at some point you get close to the treshold where static friction kicks in, no?

latent mural
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after the sliding has stopped, yea. if you're moving at all then you're in kinetic land

fickle ore
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Perhaps it's the rebound on fast flicks then, which static friction would help against

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Which I am noticing and makes stopping "better" not "faster"

timid chasm
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Oh that's an easy fix. Just spit on it. That's what I do to create less friction

latent mural
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yea static friction is a thing if you change speed to the opposite direction

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that's also why it's completely horrible if there's too much of it

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it kinda nudges the mouse everywhere

fickle ore
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Alright thanks .-)

latent mural
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🤔 well polished rounded metal feet for a mouse might be interesting with a cloth pad

fickle ore
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Why?

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You could try, they cost about 10€

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Bloody XL-V7 materiall = metal

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from my notes 😛

latent mural
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nice

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meanwhile qck+ and CM Storm Spawn with original feet was µs=0,175 and µk=0,125

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I'd take the 0,194 0,193 pair all day

fickle ore
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I'd ideally want high static, high kinetic surface, where static is bigger than kinetic by atleast 30%

latent mural
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hm 👀 so you like the little nudge

fickle ore
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I just checked lol, It stops faster when the static is big, we're talking here split second timings, but still

latent mural
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static friction does not affect surfaces that are sliding against each other

fickle ore
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check this vid

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This is sliding object, just like a mouse and surface

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When the kinetic energy is depleted during deacceleration, if the static friction is high enough, it stops the skidding at earlier point

latent mural
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hm where does he talk about stopping

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isn't this just a normal exercise 🤔 I'm not finding the part you mentioned

fickle ore
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It is basically just like Tino said, when the kinetic energy can't overcome the static friction, it won't skid (use dynamic then) and stops

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So therefore higher static stops it at earlier point

latent mural
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your source does not support what you are saying 👀 this is an exercise about moving a still block

fickle ore
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Meh I am not trying to convince you 😄

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Could be that I am wrong

latent mural
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I am now going to walk into a shop and buy strawberries or something

latent mural
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the strawberries all moldy and stuff, I bought little tomatoes and some grapes instead

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the seedless grapes and the cherry tomatoes are pretty similar tbh

timid chasm
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hopefully not in flavor

latent mural
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actually kinda similar flavor hah

timid chasm
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I don't think that's very normal at all

latent mural
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grape is brighter sweet and cherry tomato is milder sweet

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usually cherry tomatoes aren't this awesome 👀 it could be because they're grown close by here (like within 10km or something) so they haven't travelled too long

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the plum tomatoes are more tomatoey

timid chasm
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only raspberries, I think

opaque temple
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And cherry keys XD

pale sigil
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Cherry mx cherry

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Cherry mx blueberry

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Cherry mx chocolate

opaque temple
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Cherry Most likely to break after 6 months

pale sigil
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I have had a nice experience with Corsair so far

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RMA has taken 3 days in total

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Processing as of today

spice portal
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My Google-fu is horrible tonight. What's the actuation point of Cherry MX Browns? (Or better, TTC Browns?)

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(Also, Roccat Kone XTD Optical allows you to add small weights to it to customise the weights… I just tried to take out my 20g, and it feels so uncontrollable now. :x)

dense vapor
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where can you get good pudding caps for cheap?

neat oriole
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i use a steelseries rival 600

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very nice

zenith mirage
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@spice portal actuation point on MX browns is 2mm down

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As for TTC, I have no idea

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But I can say TTC blues are decent so browns might be okay too

spice portal
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And by actuation point I meant actuation force. 😅 (I already have TTC Browns, but they're also the only mech. keys I have around, so just wanted to have some kind of comparison for choosing W-Flaretechs whenever they get the survey sent out.)

halcyon moss
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@dense vapor i got mine on banggood, they were linked here a while ago. Not sure if they are good. I dont have enough experience with high quality keycaps to judge

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they seem a bit too tight on the stems though.. so i'm scared of ever removing them..

reef patrol
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Yeah that's always a risk with cheap keycaps. You might have wanted to sand them just a tiny bit to make them sit less... tight.

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When I removed my cheap keycaps set a few months ago, I lost about ... 30 switches.

halcyon moss
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original kickstart switches too.. so i'll loose a couple im afraid :/

reef patrol
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I suggest not trying to remove them, before you have a switchbox of replacements.

halcyon moss
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haha, or one by one

zenith mirage
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@spice portal actuation force is 55cN

latent mural
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it'd be interesting to have kinda stiff linear switches on the wooting 👀 like change the keys like wasd that need more precision in analog use, for stiffer springs

spice portal
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@latent mural Isn't that what the blacks are?

pale sigil
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Yes

reef patrol
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You want NSFW, Callum? I had to take in a hilarious frankenstein of a laptop today. Top of the line MSI from last generation.

It had... and hold on to your tights.

An i7 59...something CPU (The real expensive ones)
TWO 980M in SLI.
4! 128GB M.2 drives (This was just before NVME)
and a wee bit of 32GB RAM to boot.

Did I mention it comes with a full sized TKL Cherry keyboard? Like actual keycaps and all.

tall finch
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that aint a laptop, its a portable desktop lol

reef patrol
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And how did such a magnificent beast die? The idiot dropped coke into the keyboard, which seeped into the laptop. COLA, @pale sigil

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That's like 4000 pounds or something out the window.

pale sigil
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Good job

reef patrol
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At least he was wise enough to buy insurance. So we're quoting them an amount for a new one, because... it's basically dead. Smoke came out of it when I turned it on. So ... yeah... We're building him a tower PC instead with the money.

dense vapor
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@halcyon moss thank you!

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@reef patrol what model laptop was it specifically??? asking for research purposes lol

pale sigil
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:(

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Oculus lense

haughty condor
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Scratched?

pale sigil
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Yes

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Idk how I don't use my glasses on it

haughty condor
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:'(

pale sigil
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I've noticed lately a smudge when using them

haughty condor
pale sigil
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And idk it doesn't seem right at all

haughty condor
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Looks like circular scratch from cleaning maybe?

pale sigil
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I used the oculus cloth

haughty condor
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I scratched the heck out of a review mouse before taking photos with a leaf stuck in my microfiber cloth...

pale sigil
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Scratches shouldn't cause what happens in game

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That's the issue

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It's the same both eyes

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It's word

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Weird

haughty condor
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Oh hmm maybe it's not calibration correctly?

pale sigil
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I can see the lense lines

haughty condor
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Oh I can see those on oculus

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And the screen door effect

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Totally ruins VR for me

pale sigil
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man

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i have been using this for nearly a year

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i know this is not screen door

reef patrol
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@dense vapor

pale sigil
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corsair sent out a h80i v2

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as a replacement

reef patrol
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allohappy 👌

pale sigil
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im surprised with corsair

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took them 4 hours to accept claim

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less than 24 hours to send me a h80i v2

reef patrol
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Not bad.

pale sigil
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i cant belive how scracted my oculus is

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i want to neglect it now

haughty condor
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Corsair customer support is great

pale sigil
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im onlly gonna go and sell it

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lol

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Because i had to buy a new cooler due to having no back up

reef patrol
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Sold a H60 yesterday. I hate AIOs 😄

hexed gyro
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@haughty condor whitefox, noice, what switches is iT rocking ?

dense vapor
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@reef patrol lol thanks!

haughty condor
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Hako trues

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Really nice, like MX Clears in movement but not anywhere near as stiff

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Might have a 1upkeyboards kit coming

nova ember
spice portal
pale sigil
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Apparently you can water cool a gtx 1070 with a h80i. I may end up doing that 🤔

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@reef patrol maybe you can help me

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What's the name of the wires used to have your gpu in this position

reef patrol
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Ah. A Vertical GPU bracket. Wouldn't recommend for an air cooled card.

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You either need a case that has one included, or is sold seperately, or you need to grab the one from Coolermaster and cut up the back of your case a bit to fit it.

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You can watercool FOUNDER Card design Pascal cards, not special ones redesigned by MSI, ASUS and such. The NZXT G12 AIO adaptor bracket simply won't fit.

pale sigil
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Corsair have some

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Reading their forums a few people have done it

reef patrol
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Have some what?

pale sigil
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Gpu bracket

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And used a h80 i

reef patrol
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Corsair have never made GPU brackets to my knowledge. Cooler Master makes the most popular one, and Cablemod has one coming soon that should be non invasive.

pale sigil
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I'm on about water cooler brackets

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XD

reef patrol
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Again.... no?

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Oh whaddya know. They have. Same limitations though

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It's rather ugly though. NZXT's G12 is a lot more pleasing.

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Anyhow. TDLR

Vertical kits are available for a few rare cases, never use with air cooled card. CM makes the best generic one (get the one with cable)
You can cool Pascal cards, but non-founder cards might overheat, since the position of chip and VRM are different, so they don't get enough cooling.

pale sigil
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Ye I've read into that

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Just curious, still want to do an itx build too but meh I feel like it's going to be years away before I do

reef patrol
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mATX is a lot more doable tbh.

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Less compromises re. power delivery and OC too.

pale sigil
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Suddenly want a new case idk why

reef patrol
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Still waiting for my Lian Li case. Pushed to mid august. Still trying to get bossman to drag it home as a review sample, just to speed things up.

spice portal
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TDLR? Too Didn't Long Read?

reef patrol
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Yep. Also used as a synonym for "long story short"

latent mural
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I think you meant TLDR/TL;DR

reef patrol
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Eh?

latent mural
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You said TDLR

reef patrol
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Followed by the short explanation 😄

reef patrol
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Ahhhhhhhhh

warped dove
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Is there a way to prevent or remove previews? They can be very obnoxious.

reef patrol
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Not sure.

warped dove
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Anyway I was tempted to back this mouse but honestly it seemed terrible. I didn't trust the group making it, very much, either. It seems like overmarketed and gimmick hype riddled. I don't believe that any "pro gamers" will use it. It'll probably exceed my expectation when it's truly available and had some software and support maturity.

warped dove
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Their software looks pretty functional though.

pale sigil
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Is that just another z mouse

warped dove
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Haven't heard of the gmouse before. But a gyroscope? That's sound rad xD

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Nah the Lexip has a joystick under it and thumbstick on the side

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Just doesn't sound as sturdy and reassuring at a good gaming mouse.

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Yeah that's sounds valuable but only as a minor improvement to quality of life. The Cad stuff.

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I'm gonna look into that Z mouse. Sounds crazy.

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The one thing that I'll still be desperate for when I have a Wooting is have the precision and freedom of a joystick or mouse but also have physical snap-back and physical limit. Y'know so that you can be in a flightsim / flying in complex game and feel when you're full turn or back to 0 turn. While you can feel the wooting, the typical human mind and body just can't combine WASD to give as much control as a mouse.

golden girder
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All who are interested in the Z Mouse, maybe this is a good deal.
@edit: Special for all who live in germany (167,90€)

pale sigil
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It's always that price

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Lol

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I would pay 50 quid max

golden girder
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Interesting mouse, but unfortunately to expensive (for just trying out)

fickle ore
warped dove
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I've been struggling with the Ninox Astrum.

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I was considering posting about it after the previous mouse discussion. The Lexip seems very relevant though.

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The Astrum I've been anticipating for months. When you first see it, it'll give you many doubts. But I think the execution will be very good. The only reason that I'm not buying it is that I'm not sure that I'll be OK with the shape as it seems quite underdesigned (the underside is missing raised edges and there're no comfort indents anywhere), not uncomfortable though. If I buy at retail I can always return it if I don't like.
Ultimately, it's just another probably good, and quite affordable, mouse. I thought it might be interesting to hear the opinion of the kinda people who like Wooting.
Also he really shoulda just used kickstarter and then indiegogo afterwards if that too would work for him.

spice portal
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The Astrum is only ~88% funded right now, so there might not be a retail. (I'm still on the fence about funding it too. I really can't afford another peripheral now, and my current mouse still works well enough for me.)

warped dove
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He realllly shoulda shown some physical items and a real person in his promotional videos... Honestly I was almost gonna offer to voice over or demo for him after trying his previous mouse but I don't feel profesh' enough.

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The Swiftpoint Z mouse appears to have a lot going on... But at least it doesn't seem like an unconvincing gimmick sale (as the Lexip did) by corporates, rather than enthusiasts and innovators (Wooting, Ninox, Swiftpoint). [opinions opinions]

spice portal
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Mhm. I concur.

fickle ore
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While I don't know about the Swiftpoint, the Astrum is made for competitive gaming in mind. It'll be lightweight and focus on very low latency. Optical microswitches aswell. Dunno if the swiftpoint uses them aswell. BTW Truzzle, Ninox_Bst said he will add comfort grooves. Also the design he showed us is 3D printed, ofc the real mouse will look a lot better than in these photos he's shown so far

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The astrum's shape should be pretty much guaranteed.. It's using some legendary old shapes that were liked very well in the past.. Logitech G1/Diamondback for Alpha.. Beta is I think WMO shape and the ergo shape is like IE 3.0 or close to Deathadder? I forgot, not really interested about the Ergo shapes ^^

hexed gyro
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It will reach the goal and it sounds like he’s closely working with a selected factory

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Probably the same factory he buys his previous mice from (stock model)

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And he has experience with selling products over Amazon, he should have something in mind for the logistics of it all

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Heck, I think he will ship it straight from China from the factory with epost

zenith mirage
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When I got my phone screen protector it came with a couple of pippets of some liquid that helps fill air bubbles round the edges of the protector. Anybody know what on earth it is and if I can buy more?

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I remember somebody saying before it was some kind of alcohol, which had me wondering if I could just use the isopropyl stuff I have lying around. Only reason I haven't already if they look a bit different. The stuff that came with the phone is thicker and has a strange tint to it

zenith mirage
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20% off all warehouse items

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That's pretty tasty

pale sigil
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not all

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on selected items

zenith mirage
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I have been mislead then

pale sigil
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oh

zenith mirage
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Basically built my current PC on warehouse parts and saved like £100

pale sigil
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xD just never buy monitors

zenith mirage
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I buy them new, just in case theres some defect

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Thankfully I've never had any issues

pale sigil
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not much on warehouse i want

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tbh

zenith mirage
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Yeah it's very inconsistent, more often than not you won't find what you want

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I always check it before buying anything though. Most of the time you only save a couple of quid, but some savings can be more significant

spice portal
pale sigil
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@spice portal Its just a known issue im not sure wgy

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*why

spice portal
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Sounds weird. USB3 should be fully backwards compatible, but maybe there's a slight voltage difference or something.

pale sigil
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I think it may be that

latent mural
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my woo-thing is here 👌

pale sigil
solar hinge
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do the prices change on prime day for the product itself, or do you not see the lowest price without being prime?

stone depot
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Let's fix the issue by putting a membrane on it. And PR it as a noise improvement 😂

reef patrol
pale sigil
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Lol literal bandade

warped dove
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Picking up anything great in the amazon sale guys?

pale sigil
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A wireless charger

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Then cancelled it

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Cos I have enough as it is ;-;

pliant tulip
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1TB 850 evo

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And a 6TB rotating rust drive

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Was running out of space for my steam library

pale sigil
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Wait there was a hdd on sale?

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Damn

pliant tulip
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Yeah a lot of samsung ssds and seagate hdds were

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At least in the uk amazon

pale sigil
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Ew seagate

pliant tulip
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It’s a disk that doesn’t store anything important

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Just some films and my steam library

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I don’t care if it fails in 4 years or so

pale sigil
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As for SSDs I considered it but I've never had a moment were I desperately need an SSD for more games, I only usually play 3 games that are important to me to the point were I want faster loading times.

pliant tulip
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You don’t know what you’re missing out on

pale sigil
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I do

pliant tulip
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I’ve got a 2TB NVMe boot drive and now another 1 TB ssd for misc stuff

pale sigil
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Like I said the 3 games I play are in my ssd

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I'm more of a server person

pliant tulip
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Tbh soon I’ll need a dedicated drive for my node_modules folder

pale sigil
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My set up
-250GB SSD with the games I mainly play
-2TB with the rest of the games
-500gb for user files only such as documents

-Small server with 2x2TB that I have daily backups on (I need to expand)

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It's more than I'm being sensible

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I'll probably buy a 1tb ssd when I have a full time job

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But for now I'm a student who does networking and prefers everything being stored over the network 😄

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User files drive is just there because fuck it tho, I didn't want to redirect all my user files into the 2TB as that's literally just for games

warped dove
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Wireless chargers are extremely bad for the environment 😧

pale sigil
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Because of the amount of lost power?

pliant tulip
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my setup

Gaming rig:
GTX 1070
32 gigs ram
2 TB NVMe boot drive
1 TB SATA SSD for stuff
2TB rotating rust drive for... stuff
6 TB rotating rust drive for... more stuff

laptop: mid 2016 MacBook pro, i7-4700HQ, radeon m370x graphics, 16 gigs of ram

work issued machine: late 2017 macbook, similary specced

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I don't host my servers on my own, they are just rented from soyoustart

warped dove
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Yeah Callum. It'll be pretty terrible with wireless electric card charging takes off

pliant tulip
pale sigil
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Lol ofc you decided to link your specs xD

pliant tulip
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I don't see the appeal of wireless charging

pale sigil
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I used to run an external server but I stopped and used my own

pliant tulip
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I've had a phone that supports it for about a year now, never used that feature

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fast charge just beats it

pale sigil
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So that's what I mean by storing everything on my network

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Wireless charger is just nice

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Easier on the battery

pliant tulip
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why would I charge at 7.5W if I can charge at 18?

pale sigil
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Doesn't kill the battery