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frail edge
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the work culture is shit so I want them to fail bc of that alone
massive overtime forced by pressure etc.

Yeaaah that literally describes every single non-independent gaming studio

fringe salmon
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ehhh, there are degrees to it

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and they are definitely more on the bad end of the spectrum

frail edge
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I worked in QA.

They're ALL that bad.

Crytek just didn't have the PR team to hide it.

fringe salmon
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ehh, at least compared to other regional stuff they are much worse, compared to the ubisoft-blue byte for exmaple where it's almost no issue here

frail edge
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Then that's an exception and I'm impressed.

novel umbra
feral ferry
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Jesus christ are the rumours Microsoft is buying Sega also true? lul

novel umbra
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uhh

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nothing official yet

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might be possible ig

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would be funny

feral ferry
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Do they even have much?

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Guess Total War and Persona carry some weight

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CoH? Ehh

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Warhammer, sure

novel umbra
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atlus

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and they still publish quite a lot

fringe salmon
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uh, sega published p5 royal but they have no rights to it

young crow
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that controller colour scheme REALLY gives off sonic vibes though

fringe salmon
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yakuza series is what they have though iirc

novel umbra
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Atlus Co., Ltd. (株式会社アトラス, Kabushiki gaisha Atorasu) is a Japanese video game developer, publisher, and distribution company based in Tokyo. A subsidiary of Sega, the company is known for its Megami Tensei, Persona, Etrian Odyssey, and Trauma Center series, among others. Its c...

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sega owns shin megami tensei

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aka persona

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since they own atlus

fringe salmon
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gloryT you're right I mixed up stuff with who got what

feral ferry
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So basically Sega's more of a company with limited modern success

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But they have a fair share of legendary franchises

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A.k.a right up the acquisition valley for Microsoft

novel umbra
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they own a lot of ips important in the japanese market

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where the ps4 dominated

fringe salmon
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recent port of P4G was also extremely popular on steam

bleak pike
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Played Satisfactory for 24 hours straight @orchid prism aPES_LulLaugh

orchid prism
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Did you see the story "leak" today?

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On their twitter.

bleak pike
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Just saw

proper cargo
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Microsoft buying sega wutt?

prime anchor
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🙅‍♀️ 📦 .... thonk

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it's either true or two woke brands stoking fake hype

fringe salmon
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...hype for what

prime anchor
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no just hype

fringe salmon
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seems pointless to create hype if you dont sell something or do smth with it

prime anchor
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social media in a nutshell

feral ferry
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Gamers will see a noticeable difference with Bethesda, Spencer said in the interview Monday, noting that the company's games will be offered on Microsoft's Xbox Game Pass subscription service the same time they hit store shelves. They'll also be available through Microsoft's xCloud video game streaming service. "This is a huge investment in games that they're going to get to play,", Spencer also said Bethesda will run semi-independently, in an effort to keep the company building the games that brought it success in the first place "We'll always look for places where there is that commonality of purpose, mission and culture,"

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Well we'll see where this leads

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There were rumors of Metal Gear Solid 1 and 2 coming to PC seems like they might have been right since Metal Gear Solid 1 and 2, Castlevania 1, 2,3, Contra and Super Contra just got rated in Taiwan for PC, this could mean that Konami might be porting these games to PC

hidden drift
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I absolutely hate Bethesda

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Everything they've done (except Skyrim and FO3)* I think is trash

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I used to love them, but I have such a negative opinion of them now... especially after all their scandals and their professional liar Tom Howard.

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However, I am excited for ES6 for the first time after hearing of Microsoft acquiring them!

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Mind the edit*

fringe salmon
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thonk still think it will change barely anything for the games quality, mostly how dlc stuff is handled to incorporate it into game pass more easily

hidden drift
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I would assume their budget won't be stretched as thin and maybe they can finally move away from their old buggy engine!

fringe salmon
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there is 0% chance cash is the reason the engine was still the same

hidden drift
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Why else would they not have made a new engine?

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Especially since the old one was buggy as hell and created so many issues

fringe salmon
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they sorta are?

hidden drift
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They are building on the old Creation Engine, if I remember right

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Like how Windows builds on old versions

fringe salmon
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I dont remember what parts it was that they said, but they said for each game they also replace/upgrade parts like the render pipeline or physics etc.

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that's basically the same as unreal 4 to unreal 5 does

hidden drift
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Hmm, I see

fringe salmon
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and to go from unreal 3 to 4 which was a bigger switch, took about 6 years+ 5 years prior where it was non serious development

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you aint making a new engine in 2 years

hidden drift
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I wish they used something like Rockstar's engine

fringe salmon
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not on that scale

bleak pike
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Ye but

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Their engine is trash so they need to stop building on it

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Just saying

hidden drift
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That's what I thought

fringe salmon
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why rage, we dont know if that engine can do what ES6 needs/wants

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for all we know it could be worse

hidden drift
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Like how Minecraft Java needs to be remade

bleak pike
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I like my games not looking like they were made in 2012

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also lol no

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MS are wanting to get rid of java

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That’ll never happen

hidden drift
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I know, but I can't imagine why they'd keep Java for this long

fringe salmon
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ok so change the graphics you use, the style has very little to do with the engine

bleak pike
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Because it’s still profitable

hidden drift
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And why the updates are almost exclusively based off of Java's development

bleak pike
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But they are slowly migrating people over

hidden drift
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Windows 10 Edition sucks

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Redstone is broken

bleak pike
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Java is purely popular due to the nodding community

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Bedrock is good

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For vanilla

hidden drift
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The color pallet seems oversaturated

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And you can't customize/mod it like you said

bleak pike
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MS wanna sell mods

hidden drift
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And you have to pay for worlds, skin packs, servers 🤮

bleak pike
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Ye exactly

hidden drift
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But man does it run buttery smooth

bleak pike
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Which is why they will never properly work on java

fringe salmon
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but that's from limitations of the java language vs c++, all big game engines basically run in c/c++

hidden drift
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If I remember, 2/3 of the community is using some form of Bedrock/Windows 10 Edition

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As far as I'm aware, it's not a Java limitation, it's how it was coded from the beginning; not being coded with expansion in mind

fringe salmon
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sure that definitely helps, the language is still a vert big part of it

hidden drift
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C++ is easier to work with, isn't it?

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I know 0 about coding, basing what I'm saying off of others

fringe salmon
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define easier

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easier if you know what you do maybe, if you were to start from scratch in either one I'd disagree heavily

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easier to write efficient code in it perhaps

bleak pike
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Java is just shit

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aPES_LulLaugh gotta love jarva edition using 15gb ram for my mod pack

fallow bronze
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Java version also isnt coded with mods in mind, but due to the nature of java it is possible

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(although in recent years.. they probably made it easier)

hidden drift
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3rd parties have made it easier

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Mod manager programs

fringe salmon
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but those have had it easier too due to nature of java

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esp in the start I can see it be a big reasons why mc got so many mods, much more likely someone spends 5 minutes to figure out how to change the redstone signal vs 5 hours (relative random numbers ofc)

orchid prism
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So apparently Bethesda was close to failing completely - Which is a great show of how the "AAA" market will make or break you due to the massive investment required and potential downfall if it doesn't succeed.

fringe salmon
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uhhh I mean its nice that the author agrees with my view on the game pass being shit for creativity etc. but how does he know bethesda was close to failing?

orchid prism
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Because... Bethesda said so 😄

fringe salmon
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thonk in this article?

bleak pike
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The game pass is very weird.

orchid prism
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Until they start including DLC in third party games, I see little reason to re-sub.

tough jay
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Personally mostly with singleplayer games I really don't plan to buy them at or anywhere close to launch. So services like game pass really don't seem worth it to me.
It remains a simple matter of game released a year ago costs € 10 game released now costs € 60 I really don't want to play the newly released game that much more so I buy the year old € 10 game.

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Konami is pretty much dead in my opinion, Have not done anything worthwile in some time.

bleak pike
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@flat frost @tough jay You guys no like Silent Hill casino games?!?!?

trim rock
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And yet MGS and MGS2 got PC ports back in the day.. sure said ports are of the usual PC port of time quality but still

fringe salmon
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but ubi is valued at 9 thonk

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and 9 >8 as far as my math goes

novel umbra
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who tf is that

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ah

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shitposting server

fringe salmon
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rocket league is free to play now BTW

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you even get a 10$ coupon if you claim it in the first 30 days

frail edge
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...a $10 coupon for what, if it's free? 😂

fringe salmon
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store coupon

frail edge
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also what platform? looks like it's not listed on Steam anymore

fringe salmon
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epic

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psyonix is now an epic games studio

orchid prism
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Ugh... can't find the Penny Arcade comic about Rocket League being free...only to have one of them break into tears "I spent 8000$"

trim rock
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Ah lovely went to claim it to get a coupon I'll never use and of course the store page for that forces white theme MY EYES

orchid prism
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😆

frail edge
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Ugh, pass.

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If it ever comes back to Steam maybe, but I'm not touching the Epic store

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Or even Galaxy

fringe salmon
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epic owns the game, why would it be on steam again lol

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they bought the studio

frail edge
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Because money? Same reason Apple Music exists on Android

fringe salmon
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but they want to make money from their store by having more users, losing out on money from the people who only would get it on steam is like paying money for ads for their store

frail edge
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Paying for ads on their store? So you mean like spending millions of dollars acquiring studios and store exclusivity deals that flopped because people thought their tactics was heinous?

fringe salmon
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how did it flop?

frail edge
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I'd need to pull numbers, but as far as I know the Epic Store is still pulling deep negatives financially because people aren't keen on joining it despite the "exclusive deals" for many reasons, including the whole forceful aspect of the exclusivity deals, and the fact that the store is reportedly pretty broken, the fact that lots of players are already forced to install a lot of other launchers because of publisher-exclusive stores, and I'm pretty sure another major complaint was that Unreal is basically owned by Tencent which gives a lot of people a case of the creeps.

And those exclusivity deals weren't cheap either. It was basically sustained by Fortnite money

fringe salmon
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minority stake is not owned which people always forget and meanwhile are happy to ignore when it comes to Riot who are 100% owned etc.

orchid prism
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Never had any issues buying anything on Epic personally. The store isn't great, but it works fine for single purchases.

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Also don't forget how Epic earns a buttload of cash from Unreal Engine licenses.

fringe salmon
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they already got a partnership with ubisoft going to integrate uplay better into egs, meanwhile EA is putting origin to rest and basically add it back into steam, very clearly because epic put heavy pressure on steam to lower their cut

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what I like the most is that it finally got steam to add an option for download limits that you can set yourself if I'm honest lol

frail edge
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Point is, the store probably isn't making money.

And sure, Quintosh, it's TECHNICALLY a minority stake - but at 40%, it's the most significant investor, which means it has the heaviest pull. And it's a terrifying prospect to lose out on that investor.

And people are not ignoring it when it comes to Riot. Everyone I know who complains about Tencent boycotts League and other such Tencent owned games

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I'm not saying the store was universally bad. I'm saying Epic shot it in the foot by trying underhanded techniques. As far as I'm concerned, even if I'm never going to use the store because I can't be bothered, competition is always good

orchid prism
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Gotta invest to push markets. The free games could make anyone turn a profit into reds 😄

fringe salmon
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PUBG is the third most popular game on steam behind dota2 and csgo and they are tencent owned basically

frail edge
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(Speaking of the Unreal license. Didn't they also waive the publishing and licensing fees for Unreal-based games if it was sold on the EGS?)

orchid prism
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Nope.

frail edge
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I know they waived SOME fee in regards to UE4 games being published on the EGS

fringe salmon
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the 5% unreal cut is gone for sales though epic store yes

frail edge
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Aaah that's what they waived

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Also Quintosh. That's true - though I don't think CSGO has much official involvement with Tencent last I checked. Isn't CSGO a Valve game, who isn't officially involved with them?

But yeah. PUBG for sure. I'm not saying it's a game killer. I'm saying it's part of the reason for some people

fringe salmon
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I meant pubg is tencent owned not csgo

frail edge
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Yeah that's the facts

fringe salmon
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oh and the first million of game revenue from games made in unreal is also royalty free now

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and thats in general regardless of where you host

frail edge
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Oh they upped it to the first million? Last I checked it was only 10k

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So yeah that basically makes the Unreal Engine royalty free for 90% of all indie games

fringe salmon
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early this year when UE5 was announced

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yup

frail edge
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Is that one million per project or per studio/individual?

fringe salmon
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per title

frail edge
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I really really hope that doesn't mess em up lol

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Just a shame Unreal is really difficult to use for anything that isn't specific kinds of first person shooters as far as I have experience with

trim rock
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Eh I dunno, people seem to be using it for all kinds of games just fine

orchid prism
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I wanted to like it but the memes ruined it for me.

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😄

frail edge
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Oh yes I'm not saying it's unusable.

I'm saying it's very heavily tailored towards specific kinds of games

orchid prism
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I'm sorry WHAT

trim rock
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Excellent

feral ferry
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Hello Games is doing bits

bleak pike
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Satisfactory murdering my GPU lol

orchid prism
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Buy my 2080 raylagun lul

bleak pike
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How much

bleak pike
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lol

orchid prism
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Gonna have to see what everyone's dumping theirs for. My brain wants to say 300p with never used air cooler. duh

bleak pike
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@vital wyvern

I just finished Life is Strange, what a great game

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its one of my fave games in a long long long long time

slim token
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squad out of EA today with a sale

proper cargo
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they finally done it?

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some games you never expect to get out of EA

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good for them

frail edge
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In relation to the chat going on in Lekker... Isn't it actually insane that some random guys which just happened to button spam fast enough to break and glitch a game spawned an ENTIRE GENRE?

trim rock
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SQUAAAD

frail edge
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squad?

sell the game to me. why should I play?

slim token
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what fps games you like?

frail edge
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lemme think what even is the last FPS I played, lol

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Halo. Halo Reach/Combat Evolved is the last 2 FPS I played, and I enjoy the HELL out of them. Planning to run 2+3+ODST with friends at some point

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Bioshock 1 & Infinite were enjoyable

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Does Fallout 4 count as a FPS?

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Far Cry 3 was enjoyable

slim token
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i suppose

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you shoot in fps

frail edge
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The whole Half-Life series was enjoyable

slim token
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anything closer to reality, such as, i cant believe im saying this, COD

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?

frail edge
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Just Cause 2 was great

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hmmm

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Can't remember last time I played a pseudosim

slim token
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any BF games?

frail edge
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I know for a fact I don't like Escape from Tarkov lol

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Nope

slim token
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why was that

frail edge
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?

slim token
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tarkov

frail edge
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(Also, the closest thing to a realistic game I've played in recent times was Payday 2)

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Ehh, it's just too much for me. I like the luxuries of a HUD lmao

slim token
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what things

frail edge
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wdym

slim token
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which parts of teh hud you need most?

frail edge
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At the bare minimum, ammo count.

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Everything else I can do away with in theory if there's other indicators

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Does Sniper Elite V2 count as a FPS? Cause that was fun too

slim token
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sure

frail edge
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Oh and I used to play Quake 3 Arena when it was alive

slim token
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well gonna be hard recommending squa cuz no ammo count, although it does show you your mags and approximate ammo count

frail edge
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Yeah I'll skip. I'm OCD when it comes to ammo lol.

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The kind of guy who reloads whenever the coast is confirmed clear

bleak pike
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NOPE

orchid prism
placid garden
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mmm squad

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the game where flying can make you the most valuable asset to the team

feral ferry
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Someone was talking about Among Us 2, whatever that game is

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Also, Doom Eternal is coming to Game Pass

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Praise Microsoft for buying Bethesda! 🙏

orchid prism
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#NTN!

orchid prism
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Dude! I genuinely thought we'd never see another Aquanox.

novel umbra
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looks like descent and subnautica combined

orchid prism
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Yeah it's basically underwater Descent with mechwarrior style upgrades for your sub.

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Third? game in the series.

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Post apoc. People living underwater in small outposts and whatnot.

fallow bronze
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I see @bleak pike is waiting for the diablo 2 expansion

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or doom2

bleak pike
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Lol

keen urchin
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I wish GOG wasn't so slow at adding games

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Most of the time when they release of GOG I've already gotten them on Steam or elsewhere

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Unless I wait it out

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Or the few that release on GOG launch day and had no Early Access phase

hot tartan
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hewwo

narrow temple
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ninjastarr

drowsy anchor
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hi

narrow temple
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i'm not a big ez player or anything

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i used to be a dirty dt farmer

hot tartan
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hey is it okay if I play with 3500 dpi

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might as well

drowsy anchor
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only if your mouse doesnt have smoothing over 3200

hot tartan
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its G Pro

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so prob now

drowsy anchor
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most sensors do unless you have 3389

hot tartan
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not*

drowsy anchor
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probably does i think

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i would say keep it to 3200

hot tartan
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3360 sensor is before or after 3389

drowsy anchor
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before

hot tartan
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wait kuuube how do you know about this stuff

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xD

narrow temple
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what is this fail sfx kuuube

drowsy anchor
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you cant get worse than a guy i was talking to who used 72k edpi though

hot tartan
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i legit never find any useful info about sensors

narrow temple
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wat

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at that point he's just

drowsy anchor
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lemme see if i can find it i think i can

narrow temple
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shivering would cause his cursor to go across his screen

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lel

drowsy anchor
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theres a site with a lot of info

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and also pixart sensors have public infosheets and stuff on how they work

hot tartan
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there are also random sensors like Hero Sensor

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can you share those sites?

drowsy anchor
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true idk anything about that besides what logitech says

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1 sec

hot tartan
drowsy anchor
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this has a lot of info summarized if you dont want to look through pixart's very complex stats and stuff

hot tartan
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did not know this exists but apparently have the latest PWN sensor

drowsy anchor
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hmm

hot tartan
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PMW 3391 Native 18,000 DPI

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oh so we doesn't even have sensor native 2k+ yet?

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damn

drowsy anchor
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no need

hot tartan
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meanwhile Razer mouse from 4 years ago have 75k DPI marketing

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xD

drowsy anchor
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people using over 3200 is rare anyways

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yeah they overclocked the sensor

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its really dumb

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and causes a lot of skipping when done

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atleast that extreme

hot tartan
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well i'd rather my mouse sensor around native at least

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no smoothing

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I didn't even know you have smoothing past 3200dpi

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wow

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thought thats long in the past

drowsy anchor
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smoothing isnt totally a bad thing but its worse than having a sensor that can output perfectly with no smoothing

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smoothing aims to stop skipping and stutteryness and it does that for sure but its not perfect

hot tartan
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Horizontal FOV in degrees
60

Horizontal Resolution
3840

Inches Per 360
4

Maximally useful CPI: 5760

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how do we use this

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isn't FOV based in game?

narrow temple
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i'm glad to see "play more" is still the prevalent meme in osu

drowsy anchor
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kindof

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some game calculate it differently

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but the actual degrees stay the same

hot tartan
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"play more"!

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Horizontal FOV in degrees

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hmmmm

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what do I put

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say Valorant

narrow temple
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you'd have to look up the numbers probably

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i use 106.3 or 90 for most things

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106.3 is ≈16:9 counter strike and 90 is more common overall, e.g. r6s

hot tartan
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103 overwatch

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prob 103 csgo

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what is this sorcery xD

drowsy anchor
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yeah idk what the calc really measures

hot tartan
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okay kool let me set my mouse dpi to 217 now

drowsy anchor
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i get 791

hot tartan
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how did you get so high

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wut

narrow temple
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wait

hot tartan
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why is mine so low

narrow temple
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you play 16.89 in per 360?

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that's hella low

drowsy anchor
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wait you put horizonal in wrong

hot tartan
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ye and thats my post-injury dpi

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aka I highered it

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I use arm and finger/claw

narrow temple
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uhh

hot tartan
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prob lower than usual cause that's for valorant

drowsy anchor
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its not bad really

hot tartan
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^

narrow temple
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i feel like the in/360 number is super shooter specific but people prob play in the ballpark of like maybe 8in

drowsy anchor
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i use 14.5

narrow temple
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oh

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wild

hot tartan
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wait you put horizonal in wrong
what to put there

drowsy anchor
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usually referred to as cm/360 so i put it in wrong atfirst

narrow temple
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oh nvm 12in is about 30cm

hot tartan
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42.90 is cm/360

drowsy anchor
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do you play on a square monitor or actually have 1080 horizontal res?

hot tartan
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courtersy to a not shitty calc site

narrow temple
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oh i see lmao

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i didn't notice that error

hot tartan
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i play on 1080p

narrow temple
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so 1920

hot tartan
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sooo 1920?

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ahhh

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mb

narrow temple
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kek

drowsy anchor
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yeah

hot tartan
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385 now

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still low af

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wut

drowsy anchor
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yeah idk

hot tartan
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what did you put for FOV

drowsy anchor
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i think its ignoring multipliers ingame

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because if you had no multipliers and had the same cm/360 that cpi would work

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but with multipliers using a low cpi gets skipping

narrow temple
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ye i play 1x sens on cs

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(default is 2.5)

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dunno what valorant does

drowsy anchor
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i ahd 60fov atfirst but yeah it went lower when i put 103

narrow temple
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i wonder why there's no standard for sensitivity between shooters

drowsy anchor
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yeah would be cool if there was

ornate cedar
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pickle rick

drowsy anchor
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wish games could just add a setting for cm/360 and make it easy

narrow temple
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is that possible?

drowsy anchor
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well if you input your dpi yes

hot tartan
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Wait wdym standard?

drowsy anchor
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so game just asks for dpi and you enter cm/360 that you want

narrow temple
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i suppose so yeah

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standard as in like

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no need for sens converting between games

hot tartan
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so game just asks for dpi and you enter cm/360 that you want
Cause some people doesn’t play game with fixed DPI

narrow temple
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like let's say if you were a cs player with 2000 hours and wanted to try out valorant or overwatch

drowsy anchor
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doesnt matter because then the sens will just multiply to whatever the new dpi is

narrow temple
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but wanted the exact same sens

drowsy anchor
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just it could be set based on cm/360 and dpi

hot tartan
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no need for sens converting between games
Higher paced game needs higher sens generally

narrow temple
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yeah like cs sens in overwatch would be an L

drowsy anchor
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well overwatch could use multiple different sens also

narrow temple
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but say cs to valorant i think it's different

hot tartan
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You wanna be able to do 360 quickly in Quake but not in CSGO for example

drowsy anchor
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fast for maybe tracer but lower for widowmaker

narrow temple
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ye i hear rein players have hella high sens as well

drowsy anchor
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yep because they dont need to headshot people

narrow temple
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for the bigg swings

hot tartan
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@drowsy anchor say a sensor is native at 1600dpi, if I play at 1800dpi what happens

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Oh so it’s not like native in monitor

narrow temple
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is this question re: the "if you could input dpi in games"

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or in general

drowsy anchor
#

well the sens will increase like a native 1800 but it could create weird things

hot tartan
#

Oh cause Kuuube was saying it’s better to play Osu at least 1600dpi

#

For long run

drowsy anchor
#

"Some mouse manufacturers will use the microcontroller to fudge the numbers that the sensor can actually achieve, check the sensor specifications and make sure it lines up with what the mouse claims. If this is the case, it is likely the mouse will have jitter"

#

"Jitter is noise on the sensor causing movements which didn't actually happen."

#

apparently that sensor is worse than the 3389

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tbh using a better sensor than a 3360 isnt really needed unless you want to get really high dpi

narrow temple
#

my mouse has a 3366 in it

drowsy anchor
#

smoothing on 3360 above 3200 dpi wont kill your aim but it just makes it not 100% perfect

#

3366 is pretty much the same as 3360

#

for actual sensing atleast

fading spade
proper cargo
#

theory : microsoft is buying other game studios to broaden their xbox launch titles, because they know Halo Infinite wont be one, in order to make the community question less why halo isnt a release title.

fringe salmon
#

I feel like buying a studio 2 months before console launch for something you could do via a smaller ammount of money makes no sense

#

they want to compete with that and stadia (lul) I bet

novel umbra
#

it does make sense tbh

#

if they actually also buy sega then they will win over the japanese market pre launch

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which the xbox was VERY weak in before

proper cargo
#

nah, they wont buy sega

#

sega isnt the same as bethesda, its not doing bad.

#

they got big bucks from the total war warhammer games alone

novel umbra
#

you forget that microsoft has a shitton of money

fringe salmon
#

you dont need to be a declining company for someone else ot buy you

novel umbra
#

microsoft is rich af

proper cargo
#

maybe one of its studios, but an entire publisher?

#

i dont buy it

novel umbra
#

if they decide that buying sega for the sake of outselling the ps5 they can

hot tartan
#
#

now i'm more confused than the beginning xD

drowsy anchor
#

kpu is insane

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atleast imo

hot tartan
#

G Pro has PMW3366 equivalent

drowsy anchor
#

dont get the g pro wireless yet though

#

wait for the lighter version

hot tartan
#

latter is 3389

#

long story short 3389 sensor has 2 frames of smoothing at 1800 DPI and under, and 32 frames of smoothing over

#

which means PMW3366 is even worse?

novel umbra
#

hero is not 3366 equivalent

#

also no 3389 has no smoothing

hot tartan
#

that's what I pulled from the techpowerup I linked

novel umbra
#

well

#

only above 1900dpi

hot tartan
#

like I'm just more confusing than anything

novel umbra
#

First, I'm looking at two xCounts plots—generated at 1600 and 3200 CPI—to quickly gauge whether there is any smoothing present, which would be indicated by any visible "kinks." Typically, the 3200 CPI plot would be expected to show such "kinks" given the 3389 usually has 32 frames of smoothing at and above 1900 CPI, which amounts to an added motion delay of roughly 4 ms at the lowest possible speed.

hot tartan
#

1900 CPI

#

is around 1800 DPI

novel umbra
#

no

#

CPI = DPI

#

counts and dots are the same thing

hot tartan
#

give or take

novel umbra
#

if you count dots

#

yea

hot tartan
#

that's not what I care about really

#

I care about smoothing

novel umbra
#

that is just teh % the sensor is wrong

hot tartan
#

xD

novel umbra
#

since not every sensor is the same

hot tartan
#

3389 usually has 32 frames of smoothing at and above 1900 CPI, which amounts to an added motion delay of roughly 4 ms at the lowest possible speed. < this

novel umbra
#

yea

#

above 3200dpi

#

aka

#

don't use 3200dpi

hot tartan
#

again... I don't care about CPI DPI dev

novel umbra
#

just stay below 1900 dpi

#

and you are good

hot tartan
#

how about the Hero sensor

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cause I own the G Pro

novel umbra
#

hero has none

#

same as 3366

hot tartan
#

but it doesn't say anything but "oh wow perfect sensor" in their review

#

xD

novel umbra
#

would still recommend staying below 1900 regardless

#

yea

#

cause pzogel wouldn't recommend using over 1900dpi either way

#

3389 is still perfect below

#

article isn;t even by pzogel

#

nvm then

hot tartan
#

dpi is rough man

novel umbra
#

?

hot tartan
#

too high = smoothing

novel umbra
#

thing is

#

you might nto get smoothing

#

but the reason why smoothing exists

#

jitter

hot tartan
#

too low = fatigue, clunky BFI

novel umbra
#

if it is fatiguing

#

then your mouse just is too heavy

#

and idk what BFI is

hot tartan
#

black frame insertion

novel umbra
#

?

#

how does dpi relate to that

hot tartan
#

in the holygrail scenario of Chief, 1000Hz monitor 1000FPS and ultra smooth mouse

#

wait let me link it

#

for the fun

drowsy anchor
#

lmao i said a few things about mice and plunged you into researching a ton about this haha

hot tartan
novel umbra
#

?

#

dpi does not relate to that

#

at all

hot tartan
#

lmao i said a few things about mice and plunged you into researching a ton about this haha
The reason I'm not top 1 esport right now is I rather spend time researching than playing video game

#

feelsbadman

drowsy anchor
#

lol im the same i research more than i play

hot tartan
#

that's wrong picture hold on

novel umbra
#

I don;t even play competitively

drowsy anchor
#

but i also have rsi and play only osu so theres not a whole lot i can play

novel umbra
#

roommate got rsi on both hands from playing osu

#

at one point at least

drowsy anchor
#

yep i fk'd both wrists

novel umbra
#

he also keeps breaking keyboards

drowsy anchor
#

how

novel umbra
#

from mashing them too much

drowsy anchor
#

what

#

uh

#

what

#

how

#

huh

novel umbra
#

keycaps break off at the stem

drowsy anchor
#

keycaps?

#

how tf

novel umbra
#

then he swaps on some keycaps from another old board

drowsy anchor
#

er wait

novel umbra
#

until the switches break

drowsy anchor
#

i read it wrong

novel umbra
#

then he gets a new keyboard

drowsy anchor
#

yeah i have seen poople break keycaps

#

but never switches

#

abs caps can totally break

novel umbra
#

I mean

#

PBT breaks quicker

drowsy anchor
#

really?

novel umbra
#

yes

drowsy anchor
#

thought it was stronger

hot tartan
drowsy anchor
#

just not in that way

#

?

novel umbra
#

what

#

that seems like bs

#

yea uhhh

#

that is bs

#

unless he uses a logitech mosue he surely gets smoothing at that dpi

#

and on the logitech mouse he gets jitter

#

pick your poison

hot tartan
#

damn they're hard to find when I need them

novel umbra
#

Yea

#

He wants a smoother image

#

So he basically got his sensor to smoothen

#

And baits himself into thinking it is something else

hot tartan
#

okay time to tweet at him

ornate cedar
#

Humans are good at rationalising their beliefs

#

awp flicking just needs a fast reactionspeed and high sensitivity. Anywhere on the head or body is instant death anyway

hot tartan
#

you say that then hit the foot

ornate cedar
#

Then raise the crosshair

#

it aint no ak

novel umbra
#

Depends on what you mean with high sensitivity

ornate cedar
#

higher sensitivity => faster aim => faster murdering

novel umbra
#

Lol

#

I meant in numbers

#

But ok

#

Thanks for explaining sens

ornate cedar
#

probably more than 6

novel umbra
#

Can you instead explain reyonsfix in 3d scenarios to me?

hot tartan
#

meep

#

he gonna yell at me now

ornate cedar
#

yeet

drowsy anchor
#

lmao

#

hahhahaa

#

actually did it

ornate cedar
hot tartan
#

why not

#

if he accept it then 999 other people won't me mislead by it

#

xD

#

be*

drowsy anchor
#

no reason not too im just surprised because most people wouldnt bother

#

👍

hot tartan
#

guess I geeked out

ornate cedar
#

get em girl

hot tartan
#

lmao he replied

#

then immediately deleted

drowsy anchor
#

hmm still there for me

hot tartan
#

no he just reposted another one

drowsy anchor
#

oh

hot tartan
#

senpai noticed me

#

LMAO

drowsy anchor
#

lol

novel umbra
#

so it is about interpolation?

hot tartan
#

oh god

#

why did he post testimonial

#

xD

fringe salmon
#

for lazy people like me that only read the tweets not the posts :p

hot tartan
#

isn't that one of those things that you put on your website to convince people to buy your stuff? xD

fringe salmon
#

so when I get a new mouse I should maybe start getting used to not using 400dpi but a higher one wih lower ingame sens gloryT interresting

hot tartan
#

KEKW

#

Chief having minor stroke tonight

ornate cedar
#

He gets roasted

novel umbra
#

yup

#

corrected myself

fringe salmon
#

@novel umbra I also hate forums that show join date everywhere gloryKeK so useless and just confuses everyone

novel umbra
#

3389 does not interpolate btw

#

although CM does do it

#

to get 32k dpi

#

dunno why

hot tartan
#

@fringe salmon you can do like I do, 1/2 windows sens

novel umbra
#

leave windows sense at 6

hot tartan
#

or set program-specific DPI

novel umbra
#

all it does is drop inputs

fringe salmon
#

ehh I thought about it, but if I ever use someone elses pc or windows changes something, I'd rather only have to change game settings

hot tartan
#

games like osu!, LoL and Startcraft override that 6th notch tho

drowsy anchor
#

well raw input works fine

novel umbra
#

monkaS I got pzogel to notice his tweet claiming it does interpolation on 3200dpi

hot tartan
#

:monkaS: I got pzogel to notice his tweet claiming it does interpolation on 3200dpi
Twitter is funny in a way

#

can't those random encounter anywhere else

novel umbra
#

nah

#

i am on a discord with pzogel

hot tartan
#

oh nvm

#

what did he say

#

@fringe salmon if so learn to use 800dpi and you're pretty much set for 1080p

novel umbra
#

similar to me,blur buster probably confused interpolation and smoothing

hot tartan
#

couple years ago somebody made a fuss about pixel skipping in Overwatch that's why

novel umbra
#

dpi does not relate to resolution in 3d

#

at all

hot tartan
#

before that nobody cared

novel umbra
#

if overwatch does pixel skipping it happens because their angle calc is shit

hot tartan
#

pros started shifting from 400dpi to 800dpi since then

drowsy anchor
#

overwatch can have pixel skipping yes

#

some other games too

fringe salmon
#

its funny because aim in overwatch barely matters rooKek

hot tartan
#

pros = clueless people but good at video game xD

drowsy anchor
#

ow is one of the hardest games to aim as hitscan dps

novel umbra
#

overwatch has other problems anyways

drowsy anchor
#

true

fringe salmon
#

anyway, only at 100hz so I'm just waiting for a new mouse before I change anything, will still only barely matter

novel umbra
#

thing is

#

in ow

#

pixel skipping is irrelevant

#

you don;t have long enough distances

#

and in the end

#

it is only something visual

hot tartan
#

anyway, only at 100hz so I'm just waiting for a new mouse before I change anything, will still only barely matter
yup cause people been using 400dpi their whole life. hell even shroud stuck at 450dpi after everything

novel umbra
#

which doesn't matter a whole lot

hot tartan
#

if you play Widow it does matter tho

#

too bad Widow meta is way past now

drowsy anchor
#

yeah widow is only good in solo q right now

hot tartan
#

I started leaving OW as it started become dive fest

#

Blizzard responded with Brigitte meta

drowsy anchor
#

dive was way better than goats

hot tartan
#

followed by 2-2-2 queue

drowsy anchor
#

yeah 2-2-2 literally was just to stop goats

hot tartan
#

and the game is completely dead

drowsy anchor
#

played goats in open q with a 6 stack a bit and rolled every game

hot tartan
#

they tryna revive it with Overwatch 2 release

drowsy anchor
#

still powerful

hot tartan
#

yup the only way to balance that shit is to remove Brigitte

ornate cedar
#

despacito 2?

hot tartan
#

@novel umbra made chief lose sleep tonight

#

what a meanie

novel umbra
#

lol

hot tartan
#

I'd have a stroke

ornate cedar
#

chieftan needs sleep

hot tartan
#

not kidding

#

xD

ornate cedar
#

p90 best gun

hot tartan
#
  • I write blogs about hardware, big pages and youtubers credit me, TESTIMONIALS
#
  • nvm you're right
#

KEKW

ornate cedar
#

I have people tell me that I helped them into delusion look at how happy the cult memember is

hot tartan
fringe salmon
#

I mean thats a good showing, can only learn if you are willing to learn you are mistaken sometimes

hot tartan
#

yeah that's respectable from him

#

cause the entire brand depends on his credibility

#

can't just say "you're right" whenever

#

takes gut

fringe salmon
#

I mean, you can say if you use a wrong term, doesn't mean he threw out results or so on a whim xD

#

from what I understand that doesnt mean the stuff is wrong just wrong terminology?

hot tartan
#

except the fact that thousands of people are gonna read that forum post and set their dpi to 3200dpi xD

ornate cedar
#

lmao, use the settings that feel best for the user not the forum posts

hot tartan
#

^ that's the thing

#

you don't even know what's best for you

#

that's why pros still use 400dpi

ornate cedar
#

aimmap and play with the settings to test things out

fringe salmon
#

depends, sometimes you just aren't used to it and think it's worse/better

drowsy anchor
#

dpi =/= cm/360 though

hot tartan
#

if i were to do that i'll literally leave dpi at default, go into game and tweak game settings instead

ornate cedar
#

Not all go for pro play, best to set to something you enjoy

fringe salmon
#

but in this case it makes no difference, if you want to play at x speed, you can just adjust sensitivity based on what dpi is more accurate

drowsy anchor
#

if its possible to have the best settings then why settle for worse ones is how id look at it

fringe salmon
#

so you enjoy it all the same with less potential issues

drowsy anchor
#

cm/360 is subjective sure but some of these arent

fringe salmon
#

yup

ornate cedar
#

Because they dont feel right and can be fustrating for some

hot tartan
#

oh yeah that reminds me

#

some still use 125Hz polling

drowsy anchor
#

odd

hot tartan
#

mini-Skyrst first time got a gaming mouse, 125Hz? 1000Hz? Higher better = sets to 1000Hz

#

did not know jack shit back then

#

xD

ornate cedar
#

bigger number == better?

drowsy anchor
#

i only got a gaming mouse after id used some generic one for a long time

hot tartan
drowsy anchor
#

and had researched what mouse i wanted a lot

#

lol

hot tartan
#

ya before that I was literally using a $2-3 mouse?

#

its as small as the M1K

drowsy anchor
#

still love the g303 shape but ended up switching to an ultralight

ornate cedar
#

my mx master is doing its job to play at master guardian elite level lmao

hot tartan
#

damn flexing rank eh

ornate cedar
#

nah currently main is silver 1

fringe salmon
#

I started with a g500 with weights in it gloryKeK

hot tartan
fringe salmon
#

did like the form though even afterwards

ornate cedar
#

the alt did play at that level lmao

#

matchmaking is weird

hot tartan
#

there's two types of gaming mouse direction: makes it lighter & puts weight in it

#

i've never actually owned a mouse with weight

fringe salmon
#

put in helium weights when

hot tartan
#

but kinda wanted one before

drowsy anchor
#

[insert heated argument about mouse weight]

ornate cedar
#

Hydrogen is even lighter

#

flying mouse

drowsy anchor
#

like that razer april fools lmao

ornate cedar
#

lmao

#

it just flies away

#

then what

#

no mouse

hot tartan
#

It sounds horrible outside of the detail that it hovers lol

#

Anything hovers is cool in my book

drowsy anchor
#

would be cool if it was possible to make a mouse weigh nothing somehow though

#

but yeah looks impossible to use if that was real lol

hot tartan
#

Well you can put magnet under it

ornate cedar
#

magnets (aka magic)

hot tartan
#

And sell package magnet mousepad

drowsy anchor
#

was imagining tying balloons to my mouse lmao

hot tartan
#

That works at a cheaper price

drowsy anchor
#

i actually wonder how that would feel

#

totally possible since my mouse has holes in it

hot tartan
#

Why go wireless when you can attach more wires to your mouse

#

Best marketing catch phrase

ornate cedar
#

more copper more headshotrate

ashen lark
#

Make a mouse drone

hot tartan
#

Make a mouse drone
Thanks to this hardware aim assist is now undetectable by anticheat

drowsy anchor
#

hardware aim assist lmao

ornate cedar
#

aimhacks by mouse

ashen lark
#

Make auto clicker that will not always click same time after last click, by rather in random delay from 10-20ms, so anti cheat does not have chance to get to know you have auto clicker 5Head

drowsy anchor
#

thats easy to do though

#

i can make it in like a minute lmao

fringe salmon
#

takes like 3 maybe 4 lines in AHK

drowsy anchor
#

^

ashen lark
#

Make AI bots for other games as powerful as baritone mc bots

drowsy anchor
#

get a loop, add variable with random value every loop, add click, add sleep value based on variable, end loop

#

iirc there was a dota bot thats better than pro players at 1v1

ashen lark
#

That is dota

fringe salmon
#

openAI, also in starcraft

hot tartan
#

@drowsy anchor so uh I went from 650dpi (very accurate) to 1800 dpi (nothing hits AT ALL)

#

xD

drowsy anchor
#

lol

hot tartan
#

my accuracy dropped from 60% to 45%

#

help

#

xD

drowsy anchor
#

it will help eventually trust me

#

and play easier stuff

#

stuff you can get 80-90% on

hot tartan
#

the thing is

drowsy anchor
#

well that you could i mean

ashen lark
#

I am at 6400DPI on 15” laptop

hot tartan
#

i'm convinced that the natural dpi for me is around 650dpi

ornate cedar
#

n3rd

hot tartan
#

based on Relax results

#

xD

ashen lark
#

But for 27”, ideal for me is sth more than 2000 and less than 4800

#

But I have so low CPS 😦

drowsy anchor
#

ive gone from around 8cm/360 to 37cm/360 in fps and from about 20mm width tablet area to 68.47mm on osu

#

can never choose a reasonable sens at the start lmao

hot tartan
#

I MIGHT NEED

#

to buy a tablet

#

like for real

#

if I were to take osu seriously

ornate cedar
#

just buy a phone they are tablets anyway

hot tartan
#

i know there are good mkb players but

drowsy anchor
#

ooooooooooooooooooooooooo do i need to give tablet recommendations haha

hot tartan
#

tablets sounds less tiring

#

uhhh not right now

#

cause if i don't buy right now new stuff will come out eventually

drowsy anchor
#

eh

#

not really the best thing with tablets

#

a few tablets from 5+ years ago are still top tier

#

theres only one actual really great osu tablet in production right now

ashen lark
#

iPad is also great tablet lul

drowsy anchor
#

its actually possible to use your phone as an osu tablet lmao

#

just more lag though

hot tartan
#

also is it just me

#

every time i switch to new skin i feel like i have to relearn the whole game

drowsy anchor
#

well its possible for me to play with any skin but i cant read hard things without my usual skin

placid garden
#

skins do screw up my memory

hot tartan
#

i do know some people switch skin for fun tho

#

based on seasons

#

xD

drowsy anchor
#

many people switch based on map types and mods

hot tartan
#

Kuuube can you recommend some beat maps?

drowsy anchor
#

for what

#

like what type of maps

hot tartan
#

ehhh no idea

#

but i can stream me playing

#

so you can judge which skill is good for me to learn

#

join general

drowsy anchor
#

alright

hot tartan
#

xD

drowsy anchor
#

hmm

hot tartan
#

do keep in mind my muscle memory is currently fkd

#

so flicks are bad

#

i over-under hovor a lot

drowsy anchor
#

doesnt matter i can tell the map is still too hard

hot tartan
#

and have to use time to readjust

drowsy anchor
#

even before switching sens i think that would be too hard

#

play a 2*

#

oh no

hot tartan
#

i can't

#

xD

#

kill me

#

too slow

drowsy anchor
#

that isnt good pepesweat

#

i feel like im watching someone who just started playing the game

hot tartan
#

xD

#

this is the slowest i can tolerance

drowsy anchor
#

idk how much youve played but i feel like youve gotten noobtrapped so hard if youve really been playing for awhile

#

yeah looking at you play hr you dont look super new

#

if you want to get better heres my advice: play without hr half the time and you are forbidden to use nofail

hot tartan
#

yeah but where do i start

drowsy anchor
#

on a map you can pass

hot tartan
#

oh god

#

that sound

drowsy anchor
#

lol

hot tartan
#

okay i'll test my patience with the slower ones again

#

-.-

drowsy anchor
#

stop playing in the future

hot tartan
drowsy anchor
#

you are too fast

#

predicting everything lol

hot tartan
drowsy anchor
#

i want to tell you to play hd on this but i dont want to torture you that much lol

hot tartan
#

predicting everything lol
patience test at the max

#

at least i can slow this much

#

jesus how could i play at this speed before

drowsy anchor
#

play stuff like this to warm up every time you play

hot tartan
drowsy anchor
#

put on hd when you get more comfortable

hot tartan
#

xD

#

yeah

#

will do

#

its AR 8

#

do you have any good beat map similar?

drowsy anchor
#

well i do have ar 8 maps but not low star like this

#

you will 100% get destroyed

hot tartan
#

how do i use that

#

open up and take each link?

drowsy anchor
#

yeah

#

i included some lower than ar8

#

they are in categories though

#

but many are hard af

#

those are maps i practice on lol

hot tartan
#

uh

drowsy anchor
#

ok one more thing dont stop in the middle of a map even if you dont really like the map

hot tartan
#

how do you read stack on top of each other notes

drowsy anchor
#

hmm

#

idk

#

i cant tell you

#

you just need to do it instinctively after playing for awhile

#

also its hard for me to recommend maps in general because i have 97k maps lol and i only really have ones that i really like or i think are really useful

hot tartan
#

^

#

thats why i asked

drowsy anchor
#

i didnt start organizing them into collections when i was new to the game

#

i mean i can send you my collections

#

but

#

idk if it would help

hot tartan
#

well for starters they're really useful

#

the circles are small

#

target*

#

the ones i have

#

same star

#

but circle as big as a circus*

#

also

#

is it normal that I try to learn the map

#

together with the music

#

I think it's partly why I can't play when it's too slow once I've learned the music

#

kinda like expectation?

drowsy anchor
#

hmm

#

well you want to know what to expect

#

but

#

for low ar you need to process more

hot tartan
#

ohhhhhh you were right about me can't play low AR

#

yeah

#

as long as its high AR I do significantly better

#

oops

#

how does HD have to do with AR tho

drowsy anchor
#

it makes you read differently

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just try to play for high acc in general on various AR

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gonna leave vc now gotta stop procrastinating and get some work done lol

hot tartan
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kk

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thanks for coaching

drowsy anchor
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can still answer questions if you have any though

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np

hot tartan
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yea I'll just focus on AR for now

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such torture

drowsy anchor
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lol

hot tartan
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why can't everything approach at 11

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all that's left is reaction speed

proper cargo
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hmm

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you can get teh first dlc of total war troy for free if you connect ur epic account with your total war account

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i mean, why nut

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free game is free

feral ferry
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Classic Konami titles now on GOG!

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keen urchin
slim token
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what site

proper cargo
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43 bucks?!

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you can get it for 30 on kinguin, g2play and gamivo

keen urchin
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Says 34,39€ for me

proper cargo
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@vital wyvern please tell me you believe the earth is flat

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that would complete the picture 😆

keen urchin
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I wish I could find a game to get me hooked again 😦

proper cargo
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maybe play fishing simulator

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fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

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i fixed my problem with onedrive, but i accidentally saved over some old saves. ive lost a couple of turns of progress

keen urchin
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@vital wyvern The issue is that I tend to lose interest once I get familiar with the game mechanics, and have the feeling I understand the game

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I think Witcher 3 was the last one that kept me going to the end

proper cargo
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then do i have a game for you xeanoa. go play world of tanks! no one understand how you could have missed that shot 😛

keen urchin
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@proper cargo I played WoT on a pretty high level somewhere around 0.5-0.7 versions

proper cargo
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me too. but eventually the rage started to get to me.

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and i simply quit playing

keen urchin
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Stories do little for me

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Factorio has the perfect amount of story

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For a game

proper cargo
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i wanna pick up on no man sky some day, but due to work, i dont think i can put too many hours into it

keen urchin
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Port Royale looks interesting
Too bad it, once again, lacks Multiplayer

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Kalypso is pretty bad in that regard

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Tropico 6 multiplayer took months to get fixed and working

orchid prism
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I played it some months ago. Performance was abysmal.

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Multiplayer is a big investment for genres of games that never really see multiplayer use.

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Tropico's MP was a complete failure.

keen urchin
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It was fun, but bad

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Multiplayer is a big part of the genre

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Think Patrician 3 or the Anno series

orchid prism
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Anno? Multiplayer? No thanks 😄

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Patrician? Ehh.... still don't see it.

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Much more playable on your own with the 10x toggle available.

proper cargo
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borderlands 1 mp has more importance than anno multiplayer XD

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i mean, i can still remember in anno 2070, they had this system where players could vote what their next bonusses could be, which is the multiplayer part

orchid prism
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It also had actual MP

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But like all other Anno games whoever gets warships first wins.

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If you can't leave your main island to get different resources, you're stuck.

proper cargo
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true

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no one island has all the resources

keen urchin
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Anno also has Co-op multiplayer

hot tartan
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@vital wyvern The issue is that I tend to lose interest once I get familiar with the game mechanics, and have the feeling I understand the game
@keen urchin same here. But that's only because I don't wanna spend much time on casual games nor I really care about getting good at it

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understanding the game is not enough for them, they gotta beat it, then beat it again on hardest difficulty, then beat it again using their toes

fading spade
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Burger King: abuses twitch donations to get cheap adveristments and not even sponsering or letting the streamers they included know what was going to happen

The streamers: mad, "Are you going to sponser me?"

Also Burger King: "Nah, we just gave you $5"

orchid prism
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😆