@orchid prism 
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bleak pike
bleak pike
dense walrus
world of tanks you mean?
ornate cedar
But the gun goes pew pew
dense walrus
wah, me?
feral ferry
Either that or you just spam food and gold at everyone
dense walrus
XD no
feral ferry
Only masochists enjoy that game
I've played it for 7 years
Have my own insiders and is kind of ex-Community Contributor
And the direction the game is going is horrid
They are fucking it up
ornate cedar
Light tank ramming or bust
feral ferry
Oh yeah
You guys want unreleased leaks?
Don't think they announced this yet
Brand new, fresh out of Minsk
Also fake as hell
frosty dew
we talking wot?
i remember when it only had russia, german, and usa tanks.
and the tech tree was vertical, not horizontal 
feral ferry
The only light tank that can succesfully ram shit is either LTTB, LT-432, T-100LT, T-54 ltwt
Oh right, cause they are russian
Soviet bias 
ornate cedar
Also artillery is pretty shit most of the time
Rather have another light to help in the charge
frosty dew
i miss the time when arty was perfectly fine to be like 2 levels below the heavies and still be something super scary to face in a match...
ornate cedar
Tank destroyers are much more frightening for heavies. Even lights of they can encircle it
frosty dew
i used to mainly play TD. then i hit max tier with my jagdpz IV.
it hasnt been top tier for a loooooong long time
ornate cedar
Hetzer make the enemy speak Russian hehe
feral ferry
Also Jgdpz sadly is in a really shitty tree
Tier 7 is mediocre, tier 8 is bad, tier 9 is mediocre, tier 10 is bad
And you can't branch out to the German Waffentrager line either
Which is comparatively much better
frosty dew
i used to love running the hetzer with the "derp" gun
frosty dew
also yeah, the waffle toaster tree kinda seems more interesting, but also kinda extremely glass cannon-esque
ornate cedar
Boink
frosty dew
i mean, we can all agree that the archer is just a massive mistake?
ornate cedar
also the US tanks are pretty cringe, even historically accurate
and the archer sems pretty good
frosty dew
i mean, it's not bad.
but just the idea of having to drive backwards to actually get any speed getting anywhere...
ornate cedar
it has pretty shedder gun
frosty dew
i havent played it in forever now
the friend in whose clan i am (or was?) died earlier this year. and it kinda keeps me away from it
dense walrus
@feral ferry sovjet gun dispersion is also godlike
feral ferry
I am aware I have played with nearly every single tank in the game
dense walrus
oh waauw
ornate cedar
weird flex but ok
dense walrus
i dont even come close to that XD
@frosty dew thats harsh man
im sorry
i now nolife the borsig
feral ferry
150 or 128?
frosty dew
it's okay... i was really floored when i learned the news. still sometimes feel the sads welling up on occasion...
dense walrus
still 128... dont have better yet... i will play with the 150 when i have it tho
dense walrus
i know
the 128 feels already very nice
have you seen that the new battlepass has arrived?
feral ferry
Nah I am not really interested in their Battle Passes
dense walrus
haha
feral ferry
Bounty Equipment is fine though
dense walrus
XD
dense walrus
i wont buy the improved, but i will try to get the most universal vragments
lately i played a lot less but i will play whenever i can from now on
i want to get the 150mm and the most universal fragments as i can
but im gonna go now. see you later 👋
feral ferry
Aight see you BB
bleak pike
@orchid prism me and my friend are using GitHub to sync our saves on Satisfactory
bleak pike
we just push and pull pretty much and add notes
bleak pike
keen urchin
I stopped playing WOT pretty soon after they added the french lines
ripe tendon
according to a guy my buddy works with NVIDIA never claimed double performance they claimed double ray tracing
ornate cedar
They never defined how they are compared
or atleast cant find in what why they compare the performance. is it combined, weighted, average from benchmarks?
oh wait very feintly on the bottom
average performance across mutiple popular graphics-intense games at 4k, i9 cpu
needed to increase the contrast to see that one
ornate cedar
Which is still vague and manupulable tbh
fringe salmon
yes they never said it's 2x as good a turing everywhere
marketing just said it in a way to make people think its 2x everywhere
fringe salmon
ofc they would not make something that is legally wrong or smth like that, they know how to market they stuff
ornate cedar
The independant tests are confirming it is a huge gain in generational performance it does not scale as much as the marketing suggests
and for gaming the performance hits a ceiling where more performance changes little in the fps
The price is very low and worth it
bleak pike
THing is how they presented i was that.
Its very very RARELY double.
So its stupid to market it up to
ornate cedar
ehh even that one is strangely presented
fringe salmon
It’s clearly not stupid marketing, as you can see everyone wanted one so the marketing worked lol
ornate cedar
it is clever presntation of the data
bleak pike
And moaning.
ornate cedar
just not fully honest
fringe salmon
Well yeah, you need it or else everyone will realize amd will beat them before amd even says anything, now we need to wait for amd to show it
ornate cedar
also notice it has been normilised for the 2070s while the first claim was up to 2x the performance to the 2080
Nvidia is really hard on the representation manupulation this generation
wicked latch
3080s perf spikes up when people use their bloody DSSL (or whatever that AI AA is called) and RTX.
Then it shows such numbers in some games
bleak pike
@orchid prism https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/204298126079557642/756296163488956507/unknown.png
proper cargo
nvidia did say 2x 2080
thats how they marketed it
they didnt provide
end of story
everyone lies
just move on with your life, buy the 3080 like a real gamer and dont whine about performance cause at the end of hte day you only want that 2 fps more cause we are human :p
trim rock
Cyberpunk 2077 only 70 gigs WHAT
jebus those specs are way too reasonable they must be hiding something
frosty dew
only 70 GB????
how?
not even rdr2 is that slim
also i'm pretty sure gta v is bigger
trim rock
https://twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status/1306991768387321856 what is this Polish optimization
frosty dew
i really hope that size does not equal quality
fringe salmon
witcher 3 is 50gb iirc?
bleak pike
That memory
keen urchin
I can't believe they don't at least recommend and RTRT capable graphics card
Thought it'll do RTRT?
feral ferry
Why the fuck would they recommend one
It's a graphical setting
Why don't they recommend specific cards for every Multisampling level?
keen urchin
Because why they not recommend one to get the best experience?
feral ferry
It supports RT yeah
Because you do not recommend cards for every single graphical setting?
keen urchin
No, why would you?
You give specs for the minimum settings, and specs for the recommended graphics settings.
I find it odd that they don't recommend to experience the game with RTRT
I guess it's a tacked on afterthought again
And offers no real visual benefits
feral ferry
It doesn't even add any visual benefits to begin with
Only fucks your FPS
Imagine putting on AA on x16 when that doesn't do anything compared to x8
You are eating your own FPS
keen urchin
Imagine AA still working
feral ferry
And from what I am seeing they are really tackling the budget gamers
So everyone and their grandma can run the game
feral ferry
Though I feel like they are BSing
I have seen some people try to run Witcher 3 on some ridiculously low graphics settings
It's the same engine too isn't it?
On minimal the game prolly looks like straight out of PS1
keen urchin
Well, being scalable is good
feral ferry
Yeah it will most likely look insanely good on High, and really bare on low
keen urchin
But I do hope it scales well into the high end
keen urchin
True
Although that may just be a lot more work put into the textures than the average game
feral ferry
Well considering how relatively well compressed Witcher 3 was
For the scale of the game
It's double the size of Witcher
And that means a lot
keen urchin
I'm pretty sure they could have added another texture level on top
feral ferry
They could have made it 150GB's and I would not have minded
keen urchin
But did not because for most players it means more file size for no benefit?
feral ferry
cough Just Cause
feral ferry
They mentioned there is a LOT of DLCs
Coming
And big expansion packs too
I think they mentioned the amount of DLCs getting added will be substantially higher than Witcher 3
Bigger and better expansions
And a lot more of em
The game looks like a good and proper live service tbh
If only EA was taking notes
keen urchin
Blood and wine was pretty good, though
feral ferry
Well they are promising expansions for CP2077 that are priced well, and exceed Blood and Wine
keen urchin
They're probably pumping every $ they have and earn into the game to create a legend that'll last them two or three decades
Hope they succeed
And I also hope they a few minor, but GOG exclusive DLCs
feral ferry
With the sad direction games are going
And their plans
They are definitely planning to create a worthy successor to Witcher 3 that will sell very well
Their plan to introduce a crap ton of expansions really reaffirms that theory
I am not opposed to paid content if it makes the game a lot bigger
Which is why I never paid a penny for Sims 4 expansion packs
keen urchin
Wish my wife would understand that 😦
keen urchin
At least she's not getting the Star Wars DLC
feral ferry
I don't know what they were thinking with that one
keen urchin
That's just so, so bad
EA bought the right for billions
They need to earn that back
Forced Maxis to make a pack
feral ferry
I guess it's same thing like Ubisoft and Sam Fisher
keen urchin
Maxis didn't like the idea
feral ferry
Put that bastard into every single game
feral ferry
But don't make an actually good game for him
All I see is Sims 5 shipping as a really barebones "pay for content" experience
feral ferry
60 euros entry fee, and your typical 10-30 euros for packs
That's what Sims 5 is shaping to be
None of the Sims DLC's are worth the asking price
keen urchin
Sims 5 will be Second Live v.2
feral ferry
I have never played Second Life but I have heard a little bit about it
Apparently it was popular like a decade ago?
keen urchin
Yeah
Don't know too much myself, it was a social MMO
feral ferry
Soo, a less succesful Runescape
Damn I still know people who play Runescape a lot 
That game hasn't aged at all..
Isn't RS also completely F2P?
keen urchin
I have no clue
feral ferry
Well I attribute Runescape and World of Warcraft to the same genre
Long lasting games
keen urchin
Wish DAoC had lasted longer
ornate cedar
feral ferry
That is the first time I have ever seen that domain type being used
Not even porn sites use that holy fuck
feral ferry
.biz usually
proper cargo
ornate cedar
Luckly i bought my schlattcoins
proper cargo
frosty dew
tbf, gta also named like every street...
ornate cedar
at the people will mention certain streetnames in convo in 77. in gta you need to look for them and are mere decoration. Police radio only mentions ditrictname if remember correctly.
wont matter too much just cool thing to hear about
frosty dew
i think in gta iv the police calls did mention almost every road
bleak pike
@orchid prism
orchid prism
fringe salmon
why is it weird?
ornate cedar
Recommended is not really a term with meaning. Could be at any setting(high/ultra/max/etc) at any framerat (30,60, 300, 1200)
I just look at it to know if I can run it at all
orchid prism
Only played as the hacker cloud. It's...not super fun.
proper cargo
appearently, the devs were so busy with their new game, they made outside studio's make the dlc
orchid prism
Yep.
But that was the last one - With the weird black amazons and the ... ugh... academy 😄
wheat kraken
I need to learn how to play because I suck at 4x games normally
orchid prism
Definitely don't start with the Umbral. They don't colonize as such and stay hidden 😄
proper cargo
i'd say the human faction is as generic as it can be. the easiest would be the vaulters tho.
its quite easy. against AI atleast. just stay out of trouble long enough to grow large enough XD
keen urchin
Way too long since I played that game
bleak pike
placid garden
are you transporting coal out the bottom of a lake
bleak pike
Ye lol
frosty dew
It Just Works
keen urchin
Didn't even realise that's Satisfactory without at the ridiculous specular mapping
proper cargo
well, my entire day has just been saved
was supposed to go shopping with my parents. during the second corona wave. but the sun shines, and my dad feels alright, so they go by themselves. meaning i can stay home, dont get infected and go game all day. so, yay me.
keen urchin
You're supposed to go alone during waves to cut down contacts and infection chances
proper cargo
yes, so its a win win situation
but they are going to get new canvas for the party tent and my dad at first didnt felt alright, but he said the sun is shining and he's feeling better than ever, so they go on bike.
frosty dew
i honestly dont really hear much of corona lately
keen urchin
cities getting locked down again
yeah...
orchid prism
trim rock
YESSSss shut it all down again!
proper cargo
@feral ferry its not for partying lol. they just wanna sit outside in the shade.
proper cargo
trim rock
Yeah, also why do people prefer to not use player names when referring to other players anyway
fringe salmon
easier to just look at what color is going into the darkness away from you than the name of it
bleak pike
@fringe salmon xD bro, i struggled before, being colorblind in that game
LoL animations are just 
ripe tendon
Visually that looks great
feral ferry
Gameplay looks bland as fuck
novel umbra
eyea and that is it
feral ferry
Is Demon Souls gameplay same as Dark Souls?
ripe tendon
Pretty similar from what I remember
fringe salmon
that all doesnt matter, what matters is if we get the same cat ring icon or a worse one
feral ferry
They made the presentation really fokin boring
ripe tendon
Obviously they just want to show off what it looks like regardless of what they call it
orchid prism
So uh... Microsoft wants to buy Bethesda.
fringe salmon
sounds... actually promising?
ms games studios seem to be doing well and independent but also have funding etc. so maybe more money for QA finally?
orchid prism
fringe salmon
I mean it can't really make it worse, can't hire negative QA :p
trim rock
I hope not, unless they still get to do the Bethesda E3 pressers
ornate cedar
Microsoft did rare a dirty one
novel umbra
ngl
IF your studio gets bought by a big company
microsoft seems to be the most gracious one
ripe tendon
Seems like a lateral move to me
ripe tendon
Could go to one extreme or the other or just remain basically the same. Fuck who knows with those two
novel umbra
and tbh
most of what bethesda published is good
just the shit they produced themselves is pretty bad
recently
ripe tendon
yeah but what's publishing compared to developing unless you go sticking your fingers in shit to muddle it
ornate cedar
it just works
novel umbra
yea
well
EA likes to stick their fingers in shit
HOPEFULLY MS sticks their fingers in bethesda
ornate cedar
EA likes to play with is food
novel umbra
idk why EA kept ghostgames for so long
ornate cedar
INJECT THE MICROTRANSACTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY PLAYERBASE NONE!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
probably devs bad switch em around can go wrong
ripe tendon
I honest to god don't see how some big companies can fuck up a game so bad. It truly escapes my understanding that it's possible
fringe salmon
one good point
- Bethesda and Obsidian are now sister studios. Fallout New Vegas 2 is now actually a possibility
ornate cedar
hype?
obisidian made new vegas in 1.5 years i believe
Also seems the deal is done and micro soft is now the proud adoptive parent of zenimax media and its subcompanies (under which bethesda)
fringe salmon
7.5 billion USD apparently
ornate cedar
Does this mean bethesda is now a public company in a way? through microsoft being public
ornate cedar
pls tod I cant right now
bleak pike
Holy fuck
orchid prism
fringe salmon
why rip ps5?
novel umbra
microsoft = xbox
that is the one big difference
their games probably won't come on ps4
ornate cedar
Microsoft will mostlikely not use that. antitrust and plain bad pr
frosty dew
i mean, which game truly was xbox exclusive?
out of my head i can only name halo right now
novel umbra
not truly xbox exclusive
fringe salmon
they want to sell game pass not make it xbox exclusive titles
novel umbra
but won;t come on PS4
ornate cedar
Would also ruin the cross-play marketing real fast
frosty dew
i mean, i doubt much that most new games will be published for ps4 now anyway
novel umbra
outer worlds was released barely before acquisition
ornate cedar
And microsoft aint caring too much for money for a while and just takes loses here and there
Might even be a rescue bailout from them for all we know
fringe salmon
so ps5 will maybe not get a handfull games that will be on pc
fringe salmon
doubt that hurts ps5 in a meaningfull way
novel umbra
and win this gen over to them
imo the Series X is the better buy either way, even though both are a bad one
fringe salmon
and that's assuming you dont have a pc
ornate cedar
and all that reputation damage will smear across all products for little to no gain. So it wont even make sense to do this
fringe salmon
I have a pc so what do I need a xbox for, I'll get a ps5 though lol
novel umbra
yea
ornate cedar
Then do that
novel umbra
if you don;t have either
the PS5 is a terrible deal tbh
80 euro games
60 euro annually online
just in games you get a couple hundred euros extra
frosty dew
... i've not been interested in consoles after the ps3 / 360 gen...
keen urchin
Doesn't Sony do at least PS5+PC releases now?
frosty dew
i mean tbf, nintendo does 60€ games and also has an monthly supscription service to play online, and it seems to kind of work?
fringe salmon
you also have a game-pass similar thing in the ps+ package I think? idk since I just want the singleplayer games on it so I wont need to get it anyway
novel umbra
nintendo subscription is a LOT cheaper
and also no 80 euro titles
still stupid either way
ornate cedar
Servers need less resources and thus cheaper for the switch?
frosty dew
tbf, reason i didnt even have any interested in the 360 was the need of money to play online, which the 3 didnt have, then they adopted it with the 4, and my interest died in an instant. and ever since i kept to my pc only.
idk, i think with the switch it is also their first time doing supscription based online service? so maybe it actually is just for server cost kinda...
considering with the wii and such online wasnt really a big thing with the majority of its games anyway
ornate cedar
Especially when microsoft and sony did not host the servers it was for the devs. Might be misremembering tho
frosty dew
i mean, maybe mario party, maro kart, that sort...
ornate cedar
in anycase, PC can do more while doing 2 things at the same time. yea boi
fringe salmon
sadly it can't run ps4/5 exclusive games that I want to play so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
frosty dew
oh but it can
ornate cedar
Emulation
frosty dew
but the means are not official and usually not condone
fringe salmon
yeah I kinda want to not play it at <60fps 4 years after release though
frosty dew
and of course our mate here just says it blatantly out loud
ornate cedar
Hell yea
fringe salmon
also I think emulation is fine legally if you own the game or smth like that
frosty dew
the issue is more, which emulator you run...
feral ferry
frosty dew
cause some actually like "pirate" source code from the OG consoles, and that's not legal...
so a "legal" emulator might never be as good as playing it on the console, and might need forever to update
fringe salmon
yes we went over that
even a illegal one is not gonna day 1 or even month 1 be there and have the game running
and still have issues etc.
frosty dew
it's like these little cute rodent thingies that pop out of the floor and scream before disappearing again
fringe salmon
feral ferry
That's kinda insane
That's a lot of money
And honestly? Considering how fucked up Zenimax was towards the end
It might lead to some good things
ornate cedar
Fallout old vegas 3
orchid prism
pls no
ornate cedar
mansen is scared
dev time is even more restrictive!
1 year!
whole game!
1.5years gave fallout nv imagine 1 year
orchid prism
Obsidian's last couple of games have been decidedly meh. The leads behind NV are gone AND NV had so many issues.
Like the Karma system (oh god) and their railroaded world map.
ornate cedar
It was rushed due to the unexpected success of fo3 and wanted to pump another gameout as quick as they could
They did real nice given
ornate cedar
no, just same parent company
feral ferry
Though wonder where this puts all of their new projects
The Deathloop game, that Tango game
And most importantly Starfield
fringe salmon
not gonna change a thing
proper cargo
Now bethesda needs to help obsidian making their games
ornate cedar
Starfield is on the advertisement so it keeps going
proper cargo
fringe salmon
different parent company doesnt mean the contract for a game is void
ornate cedar
and morrally corrupt
fringe salmon
ok but that still doesn't change the contract so if it's ps5/pc it will still be ps5/pc at least as a timed exclusive
ornate cedar
Legal contract are still valid as one of the demands would be to continue the responsebilities is currently hold
feral ferry
Fucking hell if you give EU4 to two publishers, like CD Projekt Red and Paradox, CDPR would make a game worth your money and Paradox would make a platform for DLCs
ornate cedar
else they would be voiding contract left and right abusing that
feral ferry
Yeah but the game direction could change
Instead of a full complete experience they might cut it short for extra DLCs
ornate cedar
not if you keep management and leave them alone
feral ferry
Unless that is all planned out, hopefully
fringe salmon
why would it suddenly change if for all the other game studios nothing changed when they got bought by MS
ornate cedar
the studio just keeps doing what it did and just went living in the microsoft house now
feral ferry
Gets their cash influx
orchid prism
CDPR only make big budget games though. They can afford not to do DLCs.
feral ferry
Yeah I have seen Paradox fuck up Prison Architect with their DLCs
ornate cedar
Why bring paradox to this?
fringe salmon
this is not a xbox push to push xbox sales though exclusive games, this is MS investing more to have game pass be a netflix for games
they are not touching any of the games
feral ferry
It's a trend that different publisher philosophies tend to sometimes influence game design direction
orchid prism
Until MS includes DLC the whole Netflix thing is going to flop pretty hard though.
ornate cedar
microsoft bought them and there is no real reason to push them differently than they already were
orchid prism
"Netflix" means watching the whole movie, not paying for permanent access to chapters for a movie you don't own to begin with.
feral ferry
Though then again, Microsoft owns Insomniac and they are awesome
ornate cedar
publishers do fuck all mostly only limiting
fringe salmon
but a classic publisher change is vastly different from MS acquiring your studio, you can't compare it to that
feral ferry
Maybe with Microsoft money, we won't actually have horse armor DLC and get shit like Dragonborn DLC
That would be actually pog
ornate cedar
The creation club would be better example or the atom shop?
feral ferry
Hearthfire was... yeah
All I want is for my sandboxes to stay the way they are or at least improve
fringe salmon
just look at what microsoft did with the other studios instead of what other publishers do?
feral ferry
But I kinda trust Microsoft, so yeah
ornate cedar
Which were publisher desicions
feral ferry
Yeah it's probably all on Phil Spencer
ornate cedar
microsoft doesnt like bothering studios they have a console to sell
keen urchin
Maybe they just want a wholesome ecosystem? :p
ornate cedar
mostly consultation, standardation and marketing would be given. dont see them doing EA moves
feral ferry
Though the worst thing is
Bethesda maintained a very different environment for all of their studios
I don't know a single game from Microsoft that is fully moddable
keen urchin
With all the money pumped into Minecraft, development is still so slow it feels like a one man show
feral ferry
Like Skyrim or Fallout is
fringe salmon
Minecraft?
feral ferry
Console port is moddable?
keen urchin
Also acquired my Microsoft
ornate cedar
Minecraft is going pretty fast tbh
feral ferry
Afaik Skyrim on consoles is moddable
fringe salmon
oh, I'll be honest I couldnt care less about modding on console lol
ornate cedar
its like buying a cake to bake bread
feral ferry
Like I really want my games moddable
ornate cedar
Then go pc
feral ferry
If they start making titles just to adhere to console ecosystem
Moddability goes bye
Rn Bethesda is PC mainly
ornate cedar
Microsoft is more moving towards merging xbox and windows rn
feral ferry
And I fuckin love Bethesda games (Excluding 76)
They could merge Xbox and Windows
My making Series X run Windows 10
That would be an instant buy
Never have to buy a PC ever again
ornate cedar
Too much overhead for gaming
novel umbra
series X runs win 10 
tbh
they could just have it run an unmodified version by now
so it essentially is just a prebuilt
ornate cedar
novel umbra
and then have the rest offered as a store app
ornate cedar
Prophecy level memery?!
feral ferry
I might have an unpopular take
But Outer Worlds from Obsidian was actually bad
I really wanted it to be good and enjoy it
But holy crap it was boring
novel umbra
didn't play it actually lol
feral ferry
orchid prism
It was quite decent... poorly balanced...and far too short.
feral ferry
This might actually make me get a Series X
fringe salmon
.. you know game pass is also on pc?
orchid prism
Going science or charisma would literally break the game because you were so overpowered. Didn't even need to do it on purpose.
.. you know game pass is also on pc?
@fringe salmon ...and doesn't include DLC, making it quite poor for anything third party. 😄
fringe salmon
compared to console game pass? what
orchid prism
Don't know about you but most games that have DLC are rarely worth playing in vanilla 😄
fringe salmon
@orchid prism my point was if game pass makes you want to get a xbox, that doesnt make sense bc its also on pc
ornate cedar
Nah, they seem to be doing fine
feral ferry
Fucking hell what if Microsoft decides to buy Ubisoft even
orchid prism
Nah, they seem to be doing fine
@ornate cedar So? It's not up to CDPR if they get bought up 😄
fringe salmon
how would they buy ubisoft, ubisoft is publicly traded unlike zenimax
ornate cedar
Microsoft is carefull with that, anti-trust is a shredding
hostile takeover
but would be a legally very hard
fringe salmon
@ornate cedar So? It's not up to CDPR if they get bought up 😄
@orchid prism how so, they are a private company, you can't just send money somewhere and you have it, if they dont want to sell
orchid prism
CDPR is a public company...
fringe salmon
oh nvm idk why google lied to me when I first looked for cdpr stock...
proper cargo
Lol. The Microsoft discord logo is bethesda now XD
fringe salmon
but in that case, only if they dont hold 50+% shares that's accurate then
feral ferry
Hope their developers don't get underpaid or crunch time'd
Last I heard crunch time was a sad reality in CDPR
But they promised to improve upon working conditions
feral ferry
feral ferry
fringe salmon
so nothing changed
feral ferry
Well
It kinda got better?
They don't have to resort that much to Atomic Shop shits now
They have permanent funding
fringe salmon
it's not like that funding comes with actual 0 requirements
not making money is definitely not a focus point suddenly lmao
orchid prism
Just a remaster pls
frosty dew
question.
sea of thieves.
yes or no?
trim rock
If you have a crew then yeah it's fun for a bit, if not it's a lot more hit and miss
keen urchin
The fuck is 'crunch time', anyway?
So, the Japanese way of life?
I don't really see the problem, though
proper cargo
the bioware magic. crunch time. finish the game, 6 months worth of progress in only 2 months time.
fringe salmon
question.
sea of thieves.
yes or no?
@frosty dew if you have at least one person to play it with I'd say yes, or if you like making groups with strangers, it's not a terrible game I just am salty bc I got it on launch with others and it was really bland
keen urchin
I feel having to leave work behind because you're not allowed to work enough time to finish it much more stressful
orchid prism
ornate cedar
Hype
wicked latch
MS buying Bethesda means they might start making good games again lol
bleak pike
my point was if game pass makes you want to get a xbox, that doesnt make sense bc its also on pc
I mean
Xbox ONE series s is cool
feral ferry
Xbox adds Windows support, I'll buy it in a heartbeat
They don't, I see not much reason to get Series X over PS5
Won't get either then, not going to support Sony's 70$ game greed
trim rock
Meh, I think something more like the opposite should happen, giving Windows an (optional!!) Xbox like shell for optimal controller use and such
fringe salmon
Won't get either then, not going to support Sony's 70$ game greed
@feral ferry whats your stance on dlc
or microtransactions
tough jay
trim rock
remastered looks like it jumped out of 2003 lol
proper cargo
seriously?
thats not on low graphics or something?
that hardly looks like an improvement at all
wicked latch
trim rock
It's a bit of a weird remaster since it's based on the old console version which nerfed graphics in some regards, and they didn't fully restore said graphics
tough jay
basically that + it has some other issues as well. It can still be very cpu limited and uses fairly little threads.
Also misses a level.
proper cargo
so they remastered a console version and ported it to pc...?
tough jay
basically
proper cargo
what kind of bullshit is that
tough jay
It still has to run on xbox one and ps4 and the original game would not be able to do that
fringe salmon
switch aswell right?
tough jay
that too
trim rock
Also yeah it's incomplete... Ascension might have been a bit of a gimmicky level but it was pretty crazy with the things that happened so it should have been restored
A very real CPU benchmark scene!
feral ferry
@fringe salmon The only good DLC I ever saw was Witcher 3 ones
DLC's can go fuck themselves
fringe salmon
so you want neither DLC nor base game price increases
feral ferry
It evolves from "downloadable content" to "Downloadable game"
You are justifying the MTXs?
fringe salmon
I'm saying without them we'd have had 70$ games years ago already
feral ferry
As if 60$ isn't enough to make profit for companies
Oh right people actually use piracy cause they can't actually afford the games or don't support the direction the game development is going
I wonder what 70$ games will do 🤔 Oh right increase piracy
That's truly what publishers wanted
fringe salmon
mhm I'm sure the pirated games market on ps5 will now explode
keen urchin
Didn't Microsoft also buy some games that were supposed to be PS5 exclusive? 🤔
tough jay
I don't think that's the reason at all. Sony paid for it to be an exclusive one way or the other, this is not something that can be undone.
orchid prism
Of course it can.
fringe salmon
Assume talk is about Deathloop?
Breaking a contract just to have that on xbox when its on pc already wouldn't really be worth the legal/pr issues
tough jay
This may prompt sony to pull a similar move. I really hope this doesn't end with a lot of developers getting gobbled up by microsoft and sony.
fringe salmon
dont see why sony should care
also this isn't news, xbox game studios started 2018/2019 with getting more studios and they said they are expanding more in the future
trim rock
"It’s led to our largest engine overhaul since Oblivion, with all new technologies powering our first new IP in 25 years, Starfield, as well as The Elder Scrolls VI." tell me lies tell me sweet little lies
orchid prism
ornate cedar
feral ferry
I do wonder how will Bethsoft benefit from the acquisition
proper cargo
well, bethesda will have better guidance than micromax. thats a plus in my book
feral ferry
Will they ditch creation engine? Prolly not
I always suspected
Zenimax was behind Atomic Shop
proper cargo
i know
feral ferry
So I sincerely hope no more shit DLCs and cash grabs from Bethesda
ornate cedar
Zenimax has small pp
proper cargo
well, the ID engine has proven its still capable in today's market. i wouldnt be suprised if microsoft would lay down a suggestion that bethesda would use it for future titles. the creation engine simply is too outdated.
feral ferry
Why I believe they don't want to change it
Is the devs are too used to it
And so are modders
proper cargo
though graphically fallout 4 was an improvement over 3, it did have the exact same bugs.
because of hte engine
feral ferry
Half of their games would not be relevant if not for mods
ornate cedar
modders dont like the engine for its outdated design
proper cargo
yup
feral ferry
What I remember modders said
ornate cedar
prone to be buggy
proper cargo
the nexus community is shouting for a change in engine, as long as it remains moddable.
feral ferry
Starfield's promising a next generation Creation engine
As long as it's equal to the Unreal 4 -> Unreal 5 leap
I am all for it
ornate cedar
just because they made a mistake 10 years ago but fixing it would require weeks to resolve, so just have to deal with it. And its lack of modulairity made up with hotfixes to seem somewhat correct
feral ferry
And don't really quote me on that, but TES6 is destined to be on its own unique engine I believe?
proper cargo
and to forget, that over half of the bugs in the fallout 76 release could have been resolved by simply applying the fallout 4 unofficial patch 😛
since they were down to the core the same game
feral ferry
I never got this weird Bethesda dev cliche where they leave all the damn bugfixes to the community
I mean it does ease them from some of the tedious work
But come on guys, do your bugfixes
feral ferry
Can't wait to start up Starfield in few years, and find that I can still activate that line of code in the engine, press "V" and VATS shows up
Because you can totally do that in Skyrim
feral ferry
How hard is it to code Minecraft? 🤔
I've seen this "Minecraft in 7 days challenge"
The guy got somewhere, but it's not THE minecraft
I always shit on Minecraft having fuck all content and Mojang not introducing any
But fuck knows, maybe the game's just a pain in the ass to work with
ornate cedar
Its easier to make a game when the game is already existing and dont have to define and research how to make it
Then you have the bedrock and java
feral ferry
Bedrock's apparently far more superior
Isn't it cause it's coded on some other language?
ornate cedar
performance wise yes. Java just sucks in general
feral ferry
Java sucks apparently
ornate cedar
c >>> java
feral ferry
Is it in C or C#?
ornate cedar
C
fringe salmon
c++
ornate cedar
c++ is c pretending to be object oriented
feral ferry
Would you rate it superior to C?
trim rock
C is alright but we should probably use something more modern to get away from all the bugs because C makes it very very easy to shoot yourself in the foot
feral ferry
Python?
trim rock
I think C++ is decent enough so long as you keep it simple, I'm really not a fan of fancy C++ that uses a ton of template magic nonsense as it takes weeks to compile and if you get anything wrong the errors are incomprehensible
ornate cedar
also compilers often dont fully support c++ and objects are arse for most devs. They just default to forced ood nonsense
ornate cedar
instance of an class
ornate cedar
structs can do it all anyway
trim rock
Yes but it's not nearly as pleasant
feral ferry
Struct's nice
Dunno we were thought to put everything into classes, with stacks added on top
fringe salmon
I mean, in cpp there isn't even really a difference between classes and structs
feral ferry
Stack's another confusing trash
ornate cedar
try this when the compiler pulls some bs here, had one bug where the compiler would make one function static even when the entire class was volitile to begin with
correction it made the function to an constant as it thought the return would always be something
if the interrupt whould be discarded
fading spade
it is in the aur
@ornate cedar Yeah, uploaded to the AUR by an official Mojang employee!
feral ferry
Btw, are logic operators like booleans that useful, or is it just better to do logic checks manually not to overcomplicate the code? @ornate cedar
ornate cedar
yes,,, that is how you make it do stuff
even the bitwise is usefull
for registers and setting a single bit, or clearing, toggling
and the if is true when it is not 0, so -3, 92, 29214 would all be true
Branching is to be avoided however due to the branch prediction, compilers are seeking for these optimilisations however and usually better to let it do this :)
fading spade
roses are red, violets are blue, semicolon expected on line 42
ornate cedar
autocompile and put the seeker on the issue to directly fix it
or trust the compiler to fix themself
trim rock
Better compile with -fixit
orchid prism
🌧️
feral ferry
John Carmack co-founded the video game company id Software and was the lead programmer of its games Commander Keen, Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, Quake, and their sequels.
fallow bronze
he was at occulus, but also not anymore
bleak pike
not all passions die quick.
lone oasis
some should though /looks at farmville
novel umbra
is that shit still alive?
feral ferry
Return to Castle Wolfenstein 2
novel umbra
would be weird
since germany did not get 1
but would prob get 2
nowadays rtcw could probably get released here
feral ferry
Wait
If Microsoft bought Zenimax, which is quite a massive company
That makes so many potential acquisitions a reality
Like the rumoured fact Sony wants to buy Konami
feral ferry
They hold too many interesting IPs
novel umbra
ye
feral ferry
Especially not MGS
I might be completely wrong
But if this is Zenimax's equity
Konami completely obliterates them
And the 7.5 billion Microsoft spent to acquire Zenimax would prolly need to be hundredfolded to be an offer
orchid prism
Konami completely obliterates them
@feral ferry Now mention Konami games released in the past couple of years that MS could have any interest in.
feral ferry
Metal Gear Zombies
Considering it's highly likely Bethesda was acquired just for their IPs
Konami holds quite a bit of them
orchid prism
The purchase was entirely about adding more fat to the Gamepass.
feral ferry
Probably not
Unless Xbox has to help them develop the port
They won't
It was said Bethesda is still self publishing
They have mostly complete autonomy
Other than being forced to game pass
The absolutely weirdest thing
Was hearing Todd Howard's reaction
He was literally happy
That just really makes you wonder if Zenimax was fucking over Bethesda Game Studios
Todd did an interview and he was really happy with the acquisition
orchid prism
Gamepass is going to bomb hard if they don't secure DLC leasing with third party games.
That's like having Netflix only for the trailers 😄
feral ferry
Honestly, I would rather pay 15$ a month than 60$ a title
Or now 70$ since fuck you Sony
Sony can go fuck itself
After I learned they are increasing game price, and they wanted to acquire Starfield as a timed exclusive
orchid prism
Sony wants to kill physical purchases, hard.
feral ferry
They can die off
orchid prism
Just look at the PS5 design 😄
feral ferry
Starfield on my book is on par or even beyond Cyberpunk on hype scale
If Sony ruined that, they can die in a fire
bleak pike
amen
fringe salmon
because sony is known to have caused exclusives to be terrible like uh, uh like what?
fringe salmon
no?
bleak pike
Xbox are decent when it comes to shit like that
fringe salmon
well, I guess most of the actual games are from before the acquisition so uhh, Seah of thieves has way too much of an ingame purchase option so I'd count that as a cashgrab?
orchid prism
Meh... they're just selling pre-orders to expansion content.
feral ferry
Only Anno 1800 has respectable Season Pass
They put quite a lot of content into those
orchid prism
Imagine having a season pass in a SP game
@bleak pike What... DLC in a singleplayer game? How dare they?
Season passes have nothing to do with being multiplayer at all.
orchid prism
What the fuck is "classic SP" even supposed to mean 😛
feral ferry
Dunno even single player games are monetized to hell
But on one hand, it was fashionable to release cash grab games way back and forget
Now it's fashionable to release cash grabs but actually update them until they are playable
Albeit at a cost
bleak pike
I am a little salty im paying for beyond light
xD
and Xbox peeps get it for next to nothing
fringe salmon
I think he has the game so he has to buy the dlc and not have it in game pass
feral ferry
It was available for at least a year
And it was available for a very generous price of 5$ a month
I don't remember if either now or very soon it will shift to 15$
So it will be equal pricing to Uplay's premium access which gives all games and all DLCs
trim rock
PC and console game passes have different games
Destiny 2 isn't included in the PC one it seems
feral ferry
There also are rumours Microsoft isn't done acquiring people
And Bungie might be on their radar
orchid prism
Bungie would be the obvious choice given the many years of cooperation.
I honestly figured they would be first.
But I guess it's because they already work so well together that they didn't pick them - Not enough immediate gain from the investment.
novel umbra
tbh
microsoft has enough money to buy the whole damn industry
so why not shoot for EA
feral ferry
Why not just buy Sony and release 4 consoles?
fringe salmon
not sure if trolling or not 
keen urchin
I'm still not understanding their move in closing Mixer
Particularly since they're heavily expending their gaming ecosystem
Even if it didn't throw immediate profit
feral ferry
- Microsoft creates Mixer
2.Microsoft buys out Twitch streamers - Out of nowhere Microsoft sells Mixer to Facebook
- Zuckerberg is very happy, he goes to announce good news to his lizard friends and get wasted
- Zuckerberg likes Microsoft now.
- Microsoft uses the relationship to buy Facebook.
- For humanity's sake, Facebook servers are nuclear bombed, and they use Oculus to make their own console VR.
It's all microsoft big brain time
novel umbra
lol
not like microsoft has a big AR group
that could easily do some VR hardware if they wanted to
feral ferry
It just hit me
Microsoft will prolly acquire crytek
Crytek's been at a very bad position financially for a while
And it would be afaik Microsoft's first German studio
fringe salmon
I think they would want some value for their investments
what would they get from crytek to add for the battlepass
novel umbra
exactly
crytek can eat shit and die if you ask me
ik that ubisoft did them dirty
but they themselves aren't better
fringe salmon
the work culture is shit so I want them to fail bc of that alone
massive overtime forced by pressure etc.
proper cargo
And freaking lazy
And he always thinks that sex is a good comversation starter
And his fucking smile. So fucking cringe the way he smiles
Hi yall. Talking about my boss?
novel umbra
sounds like you work there
proper cargo
I do.
novel umbra
riiiiiip
proper cargo
Not at crytek. I work at my job. Im a welder
novel umbra
I know him indirectly cause the father of a friend is his doctor
proper cargo
😋
proper cargo
Lol
Yea. Crysis was literally the only horse crytek could bet on.
Everyone moved on and crysis did not
novel umbra
they still had star citizen
since they provided the engine
only squadron 42 now though
star citizen itself runs on the amazon fork
fringe salmon
kingdom come was the last big-ish thing
was good but nothing to use as a showpiece really
proper cargo
Man. It makes ya think you know
Microsoft outright buying an entire publisher
But then again, Microsoft is so much more than just a publisher like the rest
Microsoft has a data storage division. Hardware sales. Game publishing. Sponserships. Software.
Ea games. What do they do besides publishing games? I know that when watching soccer the EA logo shows.
But they need to buy the rights for those right?
orchid prism
They uh... They own a number of studious that actively make games.
Maybe you've heard of a little studio called BioWare?
proper cargo
You mean that studio that once made great games?
Bullfrog entertainment
Westwood studios
Just to name a few victims
proper cargo
Ea games only does publishing. They got rights to make sports games, but they need to buy those rights
I mean, even valve does more than just steam
orchid prism
Publishers don't make games. Game studios make games.
orchid prism
"EA" can never make a game, just like how Microsoft can't. Their studios can.
The question is self defeating.
orchid prism
proper cargo
But there is good news
A dune movie at the end of this year i believe
And new dune games
There is hope
Dune 2000 remake
Emperor: battle for dune remakr
orchid prism
Less excited for another re-take of Dune. The original Benne Gesserit series however!
orchid prism
Hhm? I'm just not really excited by having the Dune movie redone... for the ... 3rd? 4th? time.
The series is brand new stuff.
proper cargo
There is a dune series?
proper cargo
I only know about 1 dune movie. The original of frank herbert
orchid prism
Syfy made a 3 part "mini series" which is basically just the Dune movie re-shot and longer. It's my favourite take. None of that early sci-fi bad CGI 😄
proper cargo
Oh, a series coming with the new movie.
wicked latch
I liked the 1980s Dune movie :P
orchid prism
I mean it wasn't bad. I just prefer the newer, longer take.
proper cargo
I find it too bad that none of the games could ever show the real size of a sandworm. Not even dune 1.
The movie did a fantastic job.
But emperor battle for dune, i thought that was the nicest. Regrettibly it was the last one. But each faction really became their own faction. No shared unit sprites.
I hope that is the one that is remade.
small comet
keen urchin
Me hopes for the Dune games to appear on GOG now
novel umbra
proper cargo
@keen urchin actually, i think the dune games are also part of the whole openRA community effort
you can play a community updated dune 2000
frail edge
late to the party but