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bleak pike
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@orchid prism yes, thermal is in classic pack because thermal used to be around a long time ago but wasn't remotely how it is today

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it used to be very bare bones and less useful

orchid prism
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Guess I'll start over at some point then ๐Ÿ˜„

fading spade
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I don't want the lighthouse to tower over everything
VintageBeef - hermitcraft 7 - 2020

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I thought that was the point of a lighthouse.....

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to tower over things so its noticable...

frosty dew
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XD

keen urchin
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Yesn't

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Sould be visible from the Ocean, doesn't matter from the inland, though

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How do I learn better Redstone?

keen urchin
orchid prism
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GLORP

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So @bleak pike - If I want something ala. Industrialcraft2 but don't want 173 mods in a single pack... what should I grab? I don't need super tryhard ๐Ÿ˜„

orchid prism
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I'll give it a read. ๐Ÿ™‚

bleak pike
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lightweight, catered specifically off an old famous pack.

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Thermal foundation is onit but its optional really

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this uses actual ic2

orchid prism
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And now to figure out how to unpack it and launch it ๐Ÿ˜„

bleak pike
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Well

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You can use MultiMC

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Which i suggest

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or use ftb launcher

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i think technic launcher can also load mod packs

orchid prism
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Using technic atm.

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Don't see a way to import the zip though

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(This is a manual unpack. Looks VERY light compared to classic. Almost no files ๐Ÿ˜„ )

orchid prism
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Cheers

bleak pike
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multi mc you just click import and select the zip

orchid prism
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Does that let me bypass my Minecraft login? Still forced to pirate while Mojang support is apparently not answering mails ๐Ÿ˜„

bleak pike
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no

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yes

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idk

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ic an give you a login

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i have a spare account

orchid prism
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Nevermind. Found a bypass.

bleak pike
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well

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sent it anyway

orchid prism
orchid prism
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ohmygod ๐Ÿ˜„

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The village generation is so utterly fucked in that modpack, Callum.

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I've had to excavate several houses from the ground to get inside.

orchid prism
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๐Ÿ‘€

bleak pike
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Ye thats down to vanilla haha

keen urchin
bleak pike
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@orchid prism you liking the pack?

keen urchin
frosty dew
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so someone is doing a creeper farm.
i also assume using vanilla tweaks?

knotty cloud
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So. seems i broke my first switch of my wooting a few days ago. It was the Escape-key. Does that mean im a ragequitter?

orchid prism
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It feels very similar to Classic pack so far, @bleak pike . Barely started ๐Ÿ˜„

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Minimap and waypoint systems are different though. Not sure if fan.

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Oh and the music is completely effed. It keeps randomly raising or lowering the volume. Not that I mind - I use Spotify ๐Ÿ˜„

bleak pike
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I never have music enabled haha

orchid prism
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I like how it skips a few steps. No longer having to make metal plates.

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Just got my first rubber trees. Slow beginnings ๐Ÿ˜„

edgy orchid
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Rubber in minecraft?

ripe tendon
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Gotta stay safe with rubbers for sure. Even in Minecraft.

orchid prism
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It's used for electrical engineering in mods, @edgy orchid ๐Ÿ˜„

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Insulation and such.

edgy orchid
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oh modded minecraft

keen urchin
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@frosty dew yes and yes

bleak pike
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quality hurts my eyes

ripe tendon
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So the Honeybee Inn sure did change, lol.

orchid prism
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Yeah it's pretty cool.

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Love how they turned a certain enemy into a boss fight. Not s fan of how long it takes though.

ripe tendon
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The one that changes "forms"?

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Some of the fights have definitely gotten on my nerves, especially when they force you as 2 or 1 vs many but in 3's it's been pretty solid, imo.

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I really hope they don't screw us on the rest of the games. This is a lot of content I feel for what it compares to the original but at the same time it's probably going to be forever before we see them all

orchid prism
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Hojo actually did it - The son of a gun ๐Ÿ˜„

ripe tendon
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Yeah that fight was fucking stupid. Would've been fine if I had magic equipped lol.

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I bet it took me 20-30 mins easily

orchid prism
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Considering how most boss battles in original 7 are over in 5mins max, this is kind of ridiculous. I can definitely see myself using the story mode difficulty just to get past the padded fights.

ripe tendon
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It had the same HP as the Fat summon in VR which is a bit ridiculous. Overall though I'm enjoying it a lot

orchid prism
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@bleak pike You wouldn't happen to know how to toggle disabled waypoints back on in that pack of yours? If I disable a waypoint on the map screen, there is no obvious way to show them again.

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It basically feels like I am deleting them (which is a separate option ๐Ÿ˜„ )

bleak pike
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@orchid prism you should be able to hide it

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click j

orchid prism
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J does ... nothing. Anywhere ๐Ÿ˜„

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They never vanish from my UI ๐Ÿ˜„

bleak pike
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im really busy

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but i advice using this mod instead

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its a supperior mod

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it allows a lot more

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including what you want

orchid prism
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Ugh... You're asking me to remove and add mods... from a modpack ๐Ÿ˜„

bleak pike
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im suggesting

orchid prism
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There we go. Cheers Tino ๐Ÿ˜„

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Xaero's

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shrug

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I wholeheartedly blame Callum. He suggested the pack. ๐Ÿ˜„

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It works for now. Won't fudge with it for now. Working on getting GF on server with me.

bleak pike
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Mate it was one of the most popular packs

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The map mod is simply there to be as original as the past pack as possible

orchid prism
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Excuses excuses. ๐Ÿ˜„

bleak pike
orchid prism
orchid prism
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Callum do you know of any kind of "godmode" command stye mod? Wife wants to play, but she sucks at combat. I'd give her creative mode, but she wants to dig and build manually ๐Ÿ˜„

fringe salmon
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I'd look if there is something called buddha or so, thats often a term for a pseudo-god mode

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like in source games that just prevents you from going below 1hp, dont have any more specific ideas about minecraft

orchid prism
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Ah. Think I found one. Apathetic mobs ๐Ÿ˜„

fringe salmon
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just be carefull of lava/fall damage then :p

orchid prism
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That's on her ๐Ÿ˜„

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I've tried to teach her not to dig straight up or down...but I keep doing it like an idiot so clearly I am a bad teacher.

fringe salmon
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well, up is not an issue if you are quick enough to block it if needed/have water :p

bleak pike
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@orchid prism command block armor

orchid prism
bleak pike
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God Set Helmet:

    display: {
        Name: "God Set Helmet"
    },
    ench: [
        {
            id: 0,
            lvl: 999999
        },
        {
            id: 1,
            lvl: 999999
        },
        {
            id: 6,
            lvl: 999999
        },
        {
            id: 7,
            lvl: 999999
        }
    ],
    Unbreakable: 1
}

God Set Chestplate:

/give @p diamond_chestplate 1 0 {
    display: {
        Name: "God Set Chestplate"
    },
    ench: [
        {
            id: 0,
            lvl: 9999999
        },
        {
            id: 1,
            lvl: 9999999
        },
        {
            id: 7,
            lvl: 9999999
        }
    ],
    Unbreakable: 1
}

God Set Leggings:

/give @p diamond_leggings 1 0 {
    display: {
        Name: "God Set Leggings"
    },
    ench: [
        {
            id: 0,
            lvl: 999999
        },
        {
            id: 1,
            lvl: 999999
        },
        {
            id: 7,
            lvl: 999999
        }
    ],
    Unbreakable: 1
}

God Set Boots:

/give @p diamond_boots 1 0 {
    display: {
        Name: "God Set Boots"
    },
    ench: [
        {
            id: 0,
            lvl: 999999
        },
        {
            id: 1,
            lvl: 999999
        },
        {
            id: 2,
            lvl: 999999
        },
        {
            id: 7,
            lvl: 999999
        }
    ],
    Unbreakable: 1
}```
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put that in a command block

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command block can only be used in creative

orchid prism
keen urchin
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@orchid prism you can use commands to apply certain buffs at very high levels for very long durations, like resistance, fire resistance, regeneration, slow falling, etc that would make her pretty much invulnerable while not changing the game

keen urchin
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@orchid prism ./effect give <name> resistance <duration in seconds> 5 true
Gives full damage immunity except for void damage (falling out of the world, which can usually only happen in the end)

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All status effects can be removed by drinkingย milk, dying, being saved from death by aย totem of undying, or traveling through the return portal in the End.
Might wanna set up a way to refresh the effect, in case it's cleared

frosty dew
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like the command block placed in the spawnchunks, and added a clock to it.

keen urchin
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Can't you just make it loop?

frosty dew
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iirc a command block needs to be powered by redstone to execute it's stored command

keen urchin
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I see

meager crown
meager crown
orchid prism
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Oh Fun. Valorants anti cheat is a rootkit that always runs.

novel umbra
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wait

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ALWAYS?

fringe salmon
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shh dont commplain, its riot, not epic, not allowed to complain there

novel umbra
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lol

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not like riot never fucked up

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lol kicks you out of games if you have any window open where the title incudes "cheatengine"

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not even the process name

orchid prism
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It literally loads into protected kernel space on system startup

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And apparently it fucks with some games as a result of poor coding. ๐Ÿ˜‚

fringe salmon
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and is so good, on day2 there were already working wall and aimbots

fringe salmon
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lol thinking anyone remembers riot belongs to tencent

unique bane
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from cheater forum

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propaganda machine

fringe salmon
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how to easily spread conspiracies with it

unique bane
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made up stuff for cheaters to spread to public

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so riot gets rid of ring0 anticheat

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so they'll ahve easier time to dev new cheats

novel umbra
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not like their anticheat actually works

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it is a big personal security flaw

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at the price of a non-functional anticheat

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great

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bypassed on day 2

fringe salmon
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yeah turns out occlusion based data culling didn't matter at all lmao

novel umbra
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not liek that wasn't done in cs already

fringe salmon
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it isnt really done in cs afaik

novel umbra
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dunno how the valorant cheats work

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@fringe salmon source does it by default

unique bane
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Only that shit ESEA client does ring0, not csgo

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and thats sus af

novel umbra
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you can bypass it in cs with teleporting

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oh I didn't mean ring0

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but data culling

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cs only gives info on adjacent and visible rooms

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so it already culls a lot

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the "good" hacks bypass it by teleporting the player to 0 0 0 which gives view of the whole map

unique bane
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cs is old, made by shitty devs for console originally. I doubt it was developed with maximal security in mind

novel umbra
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yea

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overwatch would be an example of a rather secure game

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like there are SOME cheats for it

unique bane
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Not really, its rampant with hacks

novel umbra
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but it is basically no problem

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overall

fringe salmon
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but in overwatch aim also doesn't matter so thats why you see less rooKek

novel umbra
unique bane
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Hey now you need to point at their general direction with moira

novel umbra
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could also be that people care less about it

unique bane
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and winston

novel umbra
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idk

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lol

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true

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and soldier with ult KEKW

fringe salmon
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not free2play so the average cheater is scared of having to pay 20bucks again

unique bane
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U cant carry in OW so its not as important

novel umbra
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nahh

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accounts are a lot cheaper

fringe salmon
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I guess, stopped playing it a year ago or so

unique bane
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Valorant has potential with ring0 but its invasive af

novel umbra
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and doesn't work

unique bane
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I mean they can patch it to cover what has been already developed

novel umbra
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still not as bad as arma 3 or BDO though KEKW

unique bane
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lol

fringe salmon
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I just fail to see how you need anything close to ring0 just to prevent workarounds like tp'ing to 0,0,0

novel umbra
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BDO had basically one guy that is responsible for everything they did against hackers in that game

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biggest problem in cs is that client and server work differnetly

unique bane
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I dont really know other than most aimbots nowadays are super sophisticated and act more like aim-assists than aimbots

novel umbra
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well firstly that

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in hvh it gets even crazier

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the only reason they don't use the gpu for them is because the time to access the gpu makes the calculations slower overall

unique bane
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If im playing casually i dont care about cheats tbh, If Im playing competitively and care, I want ring0, but then you need to trust the company aswell

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Its not an easy decision either way

novel umbra
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I don't trust riot one bit

unique bane
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oh, its better than 3rd party clients (ESEA)

novel umbra
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too many stakeholders

fringe salmon
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for me its the other way, if I play casual I want to enjoy it without hackers to ruin it, if I play comp I will already invest more time so after a while hackers get found anyway and I get out of the starting elo range anyway where hackers will mostly be

novel umbra
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unless you get trapped in elo hell and are unable to get out without either becoming a demigod to carry games or have a good premade team you rank up with

fringe salmon
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(elo hell is not real btw)

novel umbra
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it is though

fringe salmon
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nah

unique bane
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for majority is an issue, but for some of us we might have 1 work pc and 1 gaming pc so ring0 is preferable. Nothing on the gaming pc.

novel umbra
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depends on the game

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but in overwatch elo hell is a thing

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you don't gain enough on a win in comparison to a loose

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and you can't carry alone

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so your winrate is over 50%

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but you still consistently loose

unique bane
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This is funny, I dont know how its possible but

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my rank in Overwatch was 3300-3700 and WR was 70% on widowmaker and couldnt get to GM for a long time

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didnt play other heros lol

novel umbra
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lol

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I am stuck at 1600 SR as tank now dogeKekker

unique bane
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I dont play that shit game anymore w/e

novel umbra
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but random teammates are trash 50% of the time

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and carrying as tank is not very possible

fringe salmon
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I refuse to believe any teamgame with voice chat has elo hell, even if you are stuck with 75% winrate, you can always coordinate your team, it just means you need something else than mechanics/game sense to win

novel umbra
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lol

fringe salmon
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sure some games they just all mute you

novel umbra
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I got blamed for saying an orisa shouldn't have silver damage with under 10k after 14 minutes

unique bane
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Thats the issue, voice chat. I dont use it and mute everyone but still, if I have 70% WR over a season it means I should be climbing, which I was not

novel umbra
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yup

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but it doesn't work like that

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you loose more than you win per game

unique bane
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ye

novel umbra
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so I consistently loose SR

unique bane
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probably some competitive matchmaking performance metrics tbh

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u gotta stand on the point with widow or some shit

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or fire smg

novel umbra
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advice from my GM friend was to just get a new account

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if you get anywhere close to bronze you basically don't get out

unique bane
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You can with widow Yama

novel umbra
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especially with tank and support

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yea

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I can't gain tank SR with widow

unique bane
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I used to downrank to 2k and carried back to masters with widow

fringe salmon
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I agree that it might be a bad game/balance/etc. but communication in a team game is part of the game to me so not communicating is to me just not using an available skill

novel umbra
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I can try maining zarya since she is OP in low ranks

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yea

unique bane
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She is totally, always been hardcarry

novel umbra
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people don't listen

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I get bastion onetricks

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that don't even main bastion

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but refuse to switch

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and suck with bastion

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how am I suppose to win with that

unique bane
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sounds like you played with me

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lol

novel umbra
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lol

fringe salmon
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yeah sure, as I said sometimes they all mute you, but just getting one or two people on average to work with you makes it so much easier

unique bane
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basically me these days

novel umbra
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nah

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they answer

fringe salmon
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you just need someone to coordiante with to cap a point

novel umbra
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but you only get negative answers

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when I have to tell people that roadhog and dva aren't ideal picks for tanks in basically any situation I know a game is lost

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yup

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full stack is basically the only way to go

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and I get a much better winrate

unique bane
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This is why Valorant is so good

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no need to care abotu all this crap

novel umbra
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low ranks are filled with smurfs though

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oh yea

fringe salmon
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can you even do a full pre made team in OW?

unique bane
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just hardcarry games until you where u belong

novel umbra
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just move skill ceiling and skill floor closer together

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yea

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OW allows 6 stacks

fringe salmon
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ok then thats another issue that ranked mode has

novel umbra
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why?

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you get queued against another 6 stack usually

fringe salmon
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yeah but not an equally skilled 6 stack

novel umbra
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the game tries it's best to queue stacks against similar stacks

unique bane
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Well, you might actually get better game now that Blizz is panicking due to Valorant. All their streamers already left and Pros aswell

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Good luck

novel umbra
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overall SR is usually VERY siilar

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with 6 stacks

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or average

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whatever

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queueing is pretty fair

fringe salmon
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allowing stacked teams makes it exponentially harder to find a similar oponent team

novel umbra
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lol

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@unique bane not with echo

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she drives players away fro mthe game

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more than anything else

unique bane
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Valorant movement supposedly feels like 1.6 will haveto check when I get a key

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if its like csgo im uninstalling

novel umbra
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lol

fringe salmon
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I just stick with TF2 and complaing the game is dead thanks to valve lmao

novel umbra
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I don't get the appeal of that game

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of valorant

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like at all

unique bane
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@novel umbra no, moira, sigma, orisa, baptiste, doomfist, all these noob heroes drove ppl away from OW

novel umbra
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lol

unique bane
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๐Ÿ˜„

fringe salmon
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depends, if I can do rocket jumping and such like in source, thats better than any other physics system for me lmao

unique bane
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Ye it all depends on movement physics, @fringe salmon

fringe salmon
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doomfist is my favorite in OW because of the movement, pharrah was just the biggest disappointment ever lmao

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give mah explosion jumping

unique bane
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CSGO is walking on ice. the movement is so delayed

novel umbra
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doomfist is horrible

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but echo is worse

fringe salmon
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yeah but his movement options are the best

novel umbra
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echo will be better lol

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best mobility in the game

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kills most supports with 2 button presses

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kills most tanks in a few seconds

unique bane
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OW keeps adding these braindead heroes to the game that dont even need aim

novel umbra
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gg

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200dps beam

unique bane
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lol

fringe salmon
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idk what she does, but I mean in terms of movement that requires skill, not general mobility

novel umbra
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and an ult which allows you to basically use any ult in teh game twice

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in a few seconds

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completely unbalanced hero

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release date is today

unique bane
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Does it matter? that game is completely crap and unbalanced already

novel umbra
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they realized that playing tank or support is less rewarding and is the cause for the long queue times for DPS

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so they just made it worse

fringe salmon
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yes, I like diabotical, its quite fun

novel umbra
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that goes beyond that

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you are completely unable to counter her effectively

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especially when the hero bans will ban almost every hitscan hero except ashe and bastion again

unique bane
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Diabotical....idk.. Maps suck is all I can say, and gamemodes too

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movement is fun, that crossbow sucks

fringe salmon
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I never did play any actual quake games so I cant compare it to them, but I do enjoy it

unique bane
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I think im too old for fps games I dont like them anymore. But I miss CS 1.6

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The possibiities in that game

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Possibly Valorant, if their custom maps are like csgo

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climbing maps, surfing maps etc

novel umbra
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does the engine allow that?

fringe salmon
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jesus christ tino you talk like you are thrice your age

unique bane
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rip

novel umbra
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rip that game long term lol

unique bane
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=F

novel umbra
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OW allows it though

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or at least mroe than before

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you can make pretty custom gamemodes

unique bane
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@vital wyvern Into pantheon you grandpapa

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WUT

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BRUV

bleak pike
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Same here when it comes to friends

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They are all in different countries or far from me

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So gaming is a nice way to deal with that

orchid prism
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A little safezone - Hillfort tower next to a jungle.

bleak pike
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@orchid prism guessing you ended up using my spare account?

orchid prism
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Naw.

bleak pike
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How did you apply a skin

orchid prism
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Using cracked local play for now.

bleak pike
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How did you apply a skin

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Or is Steve bugged out

orchid prism
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It's just whatever basic skin the client uses I guess.

bleak pike
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Iโ€™d totally join you

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If you used a LAN client

orchid prism
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We already tried having me host Satisfactory. That went poorly ๐Ÿ˜„

bleak pike
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Itโ€™s pretty easy

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Either run a server with offline enabled

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Or use a decent lan client

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Not shitty hamachi

orchid prism
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I was referring to the whole NAT issue ๐Ÿ˜›

bleak pike
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Meh well if youโ€™re up for it Iโ€™ll join, if not have fun with waifu

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@orchid prism actually can you send me your world file

orchid prism
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Server spawn point ๐Ÿ˜„

bleak pike
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Ah

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Send me your world

orchid prism
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Later - Still working.

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๐Ÿ˜„

novel umbra
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got a valorant beta key

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but do I wanna bork my install Pepethink

fading spade
novel umbra
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a friend got his beta key like 3 days ago

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and his pc boots up noticeably slower

fading spade
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๐Ÿค”

fringe salmon
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you know what would be amazing

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if it would make intel pcs much slower bc it needs to work through the security software fixes

novel umbra
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lol

fringe salmon
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now that would be a top-kek

novel umbra
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Imean

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could be possible

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oh

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also his overwatch takes a lot longer to open

fringe salmon
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rip

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so one bad game prevents you from making a mistake by wanting another bad game rooKek

novel umbra
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like

unique bane
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gief valorant Yammamoto

novel umbra
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I might wanna try it

unique bane
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plz

novel umbra
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but I don't wanna play that shit

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just to bork my install

unique bane
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gif

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ty

novel umbra
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lol

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I might know somebody who might want it KEKW

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the guy that broke BDO

unique bane
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No

novel umbra
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why not lol

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playerbase drops harder than you can see if that happens

unique bane
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:((

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I would love Valorant

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๐Ÿ˜„

novel umbra
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nah I already know 2 other guys that want one

unique bane
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ok ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

fading spade
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but I don't wanna play that shit
@novel umbra I would suggest to make a VM and do GPU passthrough but they said they intentionally make it not work in VM

novel umbra
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yea

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kinda doubt that would work

fading spade
#

a lot of games do work that way

novel umbra
#

also only got 8 threads total

fading spade
#

but this anticheat needs freaking rong 0 access -.-

novel umbra
#

only upgrade path is a 9900k

fading spade
#

its a rootkit for a video game

novel umbra
#

I mean

fading spade
#

only got 8 threads

novel umbra
#

battleeye is as well

#

but not that aggressive

fading spade
#

hmmm

fringe salmon
#

in general I do get it, cheaters get better so anti cheat needs to step up, classic vicious cycle

#

trusting riot and such is a whole other deal, but I imagine for competetive games we'll see more like that in the future

novel umbra
#

well

#

it doesn't work

#

completely disables any argument for it

fringe salmon
#

in this case yes, but not as a pre-emptive argument against an updated version or next game doing it etc.

novel umbra
#

well

#

still a lot of negatives

fringe salmon
#

true

#

but not like you can just have a good anti cheat with no drawbacks, and for some games you sadly need one

novel umbra
#

well

#

too many drawbacks to me

#

especially since I can't uninstall it

fringe salmon
#

yeye, again, not saying it's needed in this case just that eventuelly we will probably get to that point

#

the not working, not easy to remove part are just them doing a bad job where they really cant afford to do one lmao

#

like, remove that shit if its already broken

#

but man I'd gladly accept that for TF2 if that could get rid of all the hackers

novel umbra
#

no chinese stakeholders that want a rootkit installed that runs permanently and doesn't uninstall KEKW

fringe salmon
#

yeah... but lets be honest, not just chinese, ever country would love to do that lmao

novel umbra
#

true

#

name me the stakeholders of valve though

fringe salmon
#

I dont even know

novel umbra
#

it is gaben

#

and that's it

#

he wouldn't be able to handle such a scandal

fringe salmon
#

well

novel umbra
#

since it would compeltely ruin the reputation

fringe salmon
#

he also doesnt give a shit about csgo lmao

novel umbra
#

true

fringe salmon
#

dota? hell yeah? 50 billion csgo major? gaben sleep

novel umbra
#

doesn't mean he has any interesting installing rootkits on thousands of computers

#

well

#

he personally prefers dota

#

and dota was always much more supported by the community

#

so it needs more PR

fringe salmon
#

he could at least do any sort of PR for csgo lmao I dont want him to be at every lan, but he's basically not even noticing it exists

novel umbra
#

yea

fringe salmon
#

and if they make VAC version for csgo with rin0 he might be ok, not knowing someone in the company would abuse it without him knowing or so

#

not like he'd check the code

novel umbra
#

too unsafe for reputation

fringe salmon
#

then sell it to him as a dota-tourney client only thing that you also try out in csgo for ranked

#

then he'll be like "oh we still have enough people that play csgo to test something there? sure go ahead with hose 10 people"

#

I do agree its much less likely to happen at valve (for now)

fringe salmon
#

"Minecraft RTX Beta Is Due on April 16th With DLSS 2.0 Support"

fading spade
#

OwO

novel umbra
#

minecraft DLSS pepeThonk

#

very important

fading spade
#

what is DLSS?

novel umbra
#

anti aliasing

#

VERY good

fading spade
#

ooh

novel umbra
#

but unneded for minecraft

fringe salmon
#

deep learning super sampling

fading spade
#

mipmap is more imortant for minecraft

novel umbra
#

it is supersampling right

#

am stupid

fringe salmon
#

well, 2.0 is a bit more complex, but it's basically very efficent super sampling to keep it short

novel umbra
#

I mean

#

it is impressive

fringe salmon
#

so instead of running it at 1080p, 720p+DLSS 2.0 is same looks better performance

novel umbra
#

problem is

#

even the weakest gpu that supports DLSS

#

is more than enough to run minecraft

#

at 4k

fringe salmon
#

ehh, not with rtx

#

or so I'd assume at least

#

also, even if it doesnt make much of a difference for minecraft, it does provide more samples for the model so it makes other/future dlss implementations better

orchid prism
#

Minecraft is a great way to push popularity though.

fringe salmon
#

that too

#

yes

#

but it's really good so I'd love to see it used more

novel umbra
#

yea not saying it is bad to include it in minecraft

fringe salmon
#

well, 2.0 is really good

novel umbra
#

dlss is really good

#

actually a useful feature lol

fringe salmon
#

wonder when amd will have a similarly good variant, since it relies on software a lot, I think it will take longer to copy given their software team has more issues than the hardware guys

fallow bronze
#

and nvidia has been very ative on the machine learning front

fringe salmon
#

ye makes it easier for them since they have big AI cards anyway already

#

just hope the next big feature they announce with ampere won't take 2 years to actually work like dlss lmao

bleak pike
#

DLSS is pretty damn impressive

fading spade
fringe salmon
#

well, 1.9 is more effort to make, needs to be heavily fine tuned for every game, and still required a higher internal resolution

#

so makes sense it does look great

keen urchin
#

I'm still not sold on fancy upscaling

orchid prism
#

Control needs FPS a lot more than fancy upscaling ๐Ÿ˜„

#

Pesky RTX effects.

fringe salmon
#

that's the entire idea of upscaling, having more fps instead of running at native resolution

orchid prism
#

Upscaling doesn't help that much.

#

Or rather downscaling and making it look like it's 1080P

fringe salmon
#

that's the entire point of DLSS thonk having it look like the native one without needing the same performance

orchid prism
#

Also honestly... DLSS looks shit ๐Ÿ˜„

fringe salmon
#

are you talking about the older dlss implementation or the 4 games that have 2.0?

#

because yes, first implementation was just bad

orchid prism
#

Talking about callum's link above ๐Ÿ˜„

keen urchin
#

It's just a stopgap until GPUs are powerful enough for native UHD, then it'll be pointless

orchid prism
#

Console tech.

#

To push that 4K somehow with acceptable framerates ๐Ÿ˜„

fringe salmon
#

no not really a stopgap, if you can't visually see a difference, why play 4k120 for example, instead of 4k144 that is supersampled?

#

yes, mostly for consoles, but if it gets good enough why not enjoy the benefits from it on pc?

bleak pike
fringe salmon
#

sure if you upscale from 540p you will miss out on details that you can't upscale because they aren't there at all at the base, but if you start at 1080p for example, or higher for 4k and above, what you might miss out is getting much closer to 0

keen urchin
#

But consoles don't even use DLSS...

fringe salmon
#

no but upscaling/supersampling

#

or do you think any xbox could actually run at the 8k 120fps antive

keen urchin
#

But consoles are consoles anyway
Nobody that plays on a console cares about their experience, or they would not play on a console ๐Ÿ˜

fringe salmon
#

if consoles use tricks to make it feel like pc, why not use the same tricks to improve your pc feeling even more is what I'm getting at

#

like if we get to a point, where I show you 100 pictures, and you are 50/50 on guessing which one is at native resolution, wouldn't that be a point where you just look at fps and then select what gives you more frames, since quality seems to be the same?

#

not saying we are fully there yet, but 2.0 of dlss is getting very close to it imo

#

yes that was an hyperbole, but we were about the technical aspect, so the factors around aren't really mattering for this discussion

#

but don't worry, AMD will come with their version and then we'll be annoyed by him praising it to heaven :p

trim rock
#

I like a performance boost even if it means a bit more blur, not like it matters much anyway when developers love to force TAA that smears everything to shit anyway

fringe salmon
novel umbra
#

damn nice

orchid prism
keen urchin
#

@trim rock I absolutely hate that we don't seem to have good AA any more
I can't use FXAA/TAA, it's a lot worse than just dealing with jagged edges

orchid prism
#

Mmmhh... not really feeling Chimera. It has some neat things...but it's basically just more Xcom. I am so tired of the Xcom Neo timeline and how they've handled the lore.

novel umbra
#

I mean

#

not much to complain about

#

if you didn't like the new xcom games then you wouldn't like what they make either way

#

if you did this is basically what you'd expect

orchid prism
#

I liked them - But they are so long, especially with all of the DLC. They basically turned it even more "casual" in the sense that you can't lose crew ๐Ÿ˜„

novel umbra
#

true

orchid prism
#

And the plot is far too PG. That's typical Firaxis though ๐Ÿ˜„

novel umbra
#

I hope that means they try to kinda integrate the operators better

#

as in integrate them better to a story

#

or make them more integral

orchid prism
#

I'd expect as much.

#

More ala. Mass Effect than original XCOM where your make your own stories.

unique bane
novel umbra
#

doesn't justify them not getting uninstalled

#

and hurting performance across the board

#

where should that lead?

#

do I need new hardware just so I can play my 3 online games?

#

do I need it's own windows install for each?

#

none of them even work that well

#

yea

unique bane
#

"Several third party anti-cheat systemsโ€”like EasyAntiCheat, Battleye, and Xigncode3โ€”are already utilizing a kernel driver to protect your favorite AAA games"

#

BDO is using xigncode3 lol

novel umbra
#

BDO is unsecure af though

#

they used to not have anything

#

yea

#

and running it all the time means that it starts to clutter

#

if all of them activelty reduced performance

#

permanently

unique bane
#

pretty cool stuff

#

"The TL;DR version is that we launched our anti-cheat in a more passive mode to begin with in the hopes of reducing the chance of launch week issues. It was also hoped that this soft start would let us observe how cheaters would attack the current system without us fully tipping our hands.

To be honest in hindsight I would have tried to take a different approach because cheaters made progress much more quickly than I expected. The week or two or ramp up time I was hoping for was actually only a few days and so if I could do it again I would have recommended going hard right out of the gate."

orchid prism
#

No no. They already replied once and said they didn't think installing an always on rootkit was an issue.

#

No take backsies ๐Ÿ˜„

unique bane
#

O.o

orchid prism
#

Same.

unique bane
#

Idk if I'll play, but for sure Ill test it

novel umbra
#

@unique bane csgo gives room based data

#

nothing new

orchid prism
#

For games? With intrusive tampering of other games functionality?

novel umbra
#

an anticheat that has to run 24/7 IS something new

orchid prism
#

That's not anti-cheat. That's DRM.

#

Heh

orchid prism
#

I love how Journeymap mixes up different worlds.

#

Got a lot of my world discovered...just eh...not really ๐Ÿ˜„

bleak pike
#

2 minutes into ESO and i have broken it

orchid prism
bleak pike
#

legit stuck and i cant do anything

#

DURING THE TUTORIAL

bleak pike
#

ngl its not a bad looking game

orchid prism
#

It's not a terrible game...but my immersion is ruined every time I visit a city ๐Ÿ˜„

#

People basically standing in line to pickpocket or backstab random citizens, avoiding town guards.

#

ESO is particularly bad because of how rogues and assassins work in Skyrim and such ๐Ÿ˜„

frosty dew
#

reminds me of a bunch of mmo's where they'd just have this one little hut with stuff like storage box, auction, trading etc, and everyone would eventually get caught in this "fly trap"

radiant copper
#

i bougt eso

#

i regret it

#

my horse was clipping halfway into the ground

#

my friends left me and went on ....

frosty dew
#

i got eso sometime last year,
logged in and had some kind of monkey pet or something? ๐Ÿค”

radiant copper
#

i had a healer... healer dont lvl up that fast compared to other class

#

i prefer gw2.....

frosty dew
hollow sphinx
keen urchin
#

I want another MMO with a class system similar to DAoC

fading spade
keen urchin
#

The excessive use of highly rewarding daily repeatable quests killed ESO for me

novel umbra
#

persona 5R pc leak got deleted fro mthe wario 64 twitter

#

without comment

#

wait rip

#

nvm

#

got deleted WITH a comment

#

just managed to overlook it

fringe salmon
#

apparently there was also a listing for super mario odysey on amazond fr, wonder what the baguettes are smoking right now

#

I'd love persona on pc, but that ain't happening

orchid shell
#

I would've said the same thing about Horizon: Zero Dawn.

novel umbra
#

I really wonder why they don't do a persona port to other platforms

#

makes no sense to me

fringe salmon
#

but horizon isn't from a japanese dev

novel umbra
#

oh

fringe salmon
#

japanese devs tend to be more likely to stick with a platform and I see sony caring more about keeping these games exclusive

novel umbra
#

that was exclusivity

#

and it gets a PC port

orchid prism
#

Still hoping for an FF7R PC Port.

#

It would SUCK to have to play that on consoles.

novel umbra
#

crysis remastered is confirmed

fringe salmon
#

is it?

novel umbra
#

apparently

fringe salmon
#

thought there was nothing besides the two tweets from crysis twitter

novel umbra
#

dunno how you get to that on the website though

#

dunno if they changed it

#

but it is mighty empty now

fringe salmon
#

maybe it was loaded too early and can be found on the site or its fanmade idk

#

think we'll know the answer soon anyway

#

wouldnt make sense to wait a long time to announce stuff after starting such hype wiht cryptic messages

novel umbra
#

yea

#

ok apparently was changed

#

know the guy IRL, he wasn't a huge crysis fan so it'd be weird if he tried to send me a fake

#

switch version though KEKW

#

atlus is not sony

#

oh

#

wait

#

misunderstood that

#

sony doesn't make persona though

#

and has no power to force atlus to release their games on PC

#

they do have the power to make them censor persona 5R though

orchid prism
#

Could never get into Crysis.

novel umbra
#

so it is missing content from the original

orchid prism
#

The alien thing just ruined it for me ๐Ÿ˜„

novel umbra
#

rip

#

yea

#

I wonder how much they will fuck with it

fringe salmon
#

the ai system is one of the arguments for using cryengine, so if they spend some time it should be easy to make it better

bleak pike
#

I need a new GPU

#

So bad

#

1440p and 144fps isn't an easy combo

fringe salmon
#

big navi in summer, Q4 for next nvidia cards

bleak pike
#

we'll see but I'm aiming to save up for VR

#

Well my 1070ti does a good job in most games

#

Just not all

#

Without tweaks etc

fallow bronze
#

star citizen is using many cores, based on cryengine

fringe salmon
#

not cryengine anymore

fallow bronze
#

ok, lumberyard

#

still based on cryengine

bleak pike
#

Which is still basically cryengine

fallow bronze
#

you are technically correct, but that wasnt the point

bleak pike
#

Cryengine combat is weirdly generic

fringe salmon
#

yeah but they have more influence on lumberyard than cryengine, and since its like 4 years now since they switched, stuff like that could be new for lumberyard

fallow bronze
#

no cybertruck? :p

#

oh wow, time to get solar?

fading spade
#

Wow

#

@bleak pike xd

fallow bronze
#

wait, now im confused @fading spade and @bleak pike

fading spade
#

:')

fallow bronze
#

hawaii?

fading spade
#

How would someone steal an entire solar panel array?

novel umbra
#

etron dansgame

bleak pike
#

Wait now Iโ€™m confused

#

Who am I

fading spade
#

I wonder

#

O?

#

But they are massive slabs of glass and electronics

novel umbra
#

lightweight enough to get stolen at least

fading spade
#

O.o

novel umbra
#

yea

#

alu profiles usually

#

that get screwed together

fading spade
#

;_;

#

On the roof?

#

Ah right

novel umbra
#

where do you live lol

#

you can get a hyundai kona for like 20k here atm

#

probably less after corona is over

#

oh

#

rip

#

dunno what the reach is that you would need to get back home

orchid prism
#

The soundtrack for Industries of Titan is pretty damn good.

orchid prism
#

Naw.

#

I'm running it on a 1660TI atm.

#

It is right now. Launches just fine without Epic running.

fallow bronze
#

I cant tell fromt he treailers what the game is supposed to be

orchid prism
#

City builder

#

You're basically sent to Titan to clean up old ruins and create a new, prosperous megacorporation city. Create fuel from the toxic atmosphere, create houses for people who then work in offices. Export rare elements to the council who employ and sponsor you.

#

Oh - And prevent pirates from attacking your city ๐Ÿ˜„

fallow bronze
#

ah ok, so nothing like offworld trading company ๐Ÿ™‚

orchid prism
#

Eh kind of. Except it isn't an RTS ๐Ÿ˜„

fallow bronze
#

(which is a good thing for me)

orchid prism
#

You also enter buildings to build rooms - Most of which have building sized variants.

#

So you can either use a floor of your factory to produce power...or build an entire power plant.

fallow bronze
#

i saw an lite ftl?

orchid prism
#

Don't think you leave Titan as such. But ship designing is planned for later. Right now big gun installations is how you deal with pirates - Or submerging your buildings into the underground.

fallow bronze
#

second trailer on steam shows it

orchid prism
#

Wait...I don't see anything like that.

fallow bronze
#

0:20

orchid prism
#

That's ship to ship combat. IN YOUR CITY ๐Ÿ˜„

#

You'll probably be able to design civilian ships for trade as well. But you're governing this city, not the planet. Might be able to send troops and ships to other rival cities though.

fallow bronze
#

int he city, but ftl like ๐Ÿ˜‰

orchid prism
#

OHhh... THE GAME

#

I thought you meant "FTL travel"

fallow bronze
#

ah i see the confusion

fading spade
#

the maps used to showcase the RTX system are not free.....FFS MICROSOFT

#

oh wait, they are

orchid prism
fading spade
#

did they actually send ant an RTX 2080 for this video? IIRC he had a 1080

orchid prism
#

RTX is RTX. 1080 doesn't have the cores.

fading spade
#

I know, I guess they did send him one

orchid prism
#

Not a bad deal if he's going to make X minutes of content with the RTX mode on in return. Not on a channel his size.

orchid prism
#

Table water cooling? That's uhh.. different ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ˜

fading spade
#

what?

orchid prism
#

His water-cooling tubes go out the back of the PC and down into his table. keklaugh

fading spade
#

ooh yeh

#

they seem to be going through the floor

orchid prism
#

Oh it's a floor. wtf ๐Ÿ˜„

orchid prism
#

RTX looks good...and you can finally see underwater.

#

Big oof with vanilla.

orchid prism
#

Lots of people will.

fringe salmon
#

rtx java edition, comes with free fps cap mod, max fps 2fps anywhere

orchid prism
#

I don't think anyone here is willing to go out and buy an RTX card to do so. But we aren't the tergey group.

#

The teens!

frosty dew
#

one of my windows store keys got hijacked 2 years ago

#

still trying to decide whether or not i should bother to reclaim that key...

fallow bronze
#

bedrock edition*

fading spade
#

I have both Java and the bedrock edition on my computer

orchid prism
#

I've waited almost three weeks for a REPLY from Mojang to recover my MC account.

#

So uhh... get comfy if you decide to ๐Ÿ˜„

frosty dew
#

i had to once before too

#

dont think it took that long

keen urchin
#

Who the fuck would want to change to bedrock?

orchid prism
#

Anyone who wants pretty RTX of course ๐Ÿ˜„

fringe salmon
#

and/or good fps

#

yup

keen urchin
#

Java gives you good FPS, too
Shaders kill them

fringe salmon
#

java good fps, lul

bleak pike
#

WOW

orchid prism
#

๐Ÿ˜„

orchid shell
#

Okay I can't BELIEVE I haven't seen anybody mention it anywhere but look at how fucking wonky the model looks. It looks like an SFM creation proportionally.

#

On Crysis, that is.

small comet
#

@fading spade that neofetch is correct cause amd cards only have a series tho it usually can be any of those

fringe salmon
#

ya I think thats the most re-released chip in gpu history lmao

#

granted not the exact chip always, but almost

bleak pike
#

@orchid shell I noticed that too

#

New overwatch hero is insanely broken

fading spade
#

@fading spade that neofetch is correct cause amd cards only have a series tho it usually can be any of those
@small comet o.o

small comet
#

amd has done this since luch forever

#

same on windows

#

the devicemanager only says 200series

#

or whatever series u have

orchid prism
#

GPUZ to the rescue.

small comet
#

kinda wont work on linux with neofetch

orchid prism
#

Linux

#

Why even ๐Ÿ˜„

small comet
#

cause lana

orchid prism
#

At any rate - You should be able to read deviceID and identify cards.

#

Even in Linux

fringe salmon
#

unless its some OEM pc where they just say "radeon 200 series" regardless of what you do

fading spade
#

O.o

small comet
#

the cards in general only say radeon or amd whatever series even with amd drivers

#

cause amd lazy

#

u literally need the deviceid to find the exact model

orchid prism
#

Or launching their control panel ๐Ÿ˜„

orchid prism
#

Time for me to shine ๐Ÿ˜„

fading spade
#

wonder what anticheat or DRM itll use

orchid prism
#

Noobtube only servers for detected hackers.

fading spade
#

you cant play modern warfare 2 on Proton unless you have the cracked exe file

#

strangely, mulitplayer works fine

orchid prism
fading spade
#

Yeah.....makes no sense

bleak pike
#

@fading spade older cods were pretty easy to crack MP

fading spade
#

yup

bleak pike
#

Some games are easy to crack still mp side

#

Wise

#

Abusing steams backend MP program

willow quiver
fringe salmon
#

wow, limited edition of a console that is outdate the same year lmao

orchid prism
#

It's a bleeping vinyl (or the equivalent thereof)

keen urchin
#

Gronkh playing Minecraft RTX on a Titan RTX, getting between 25-35 FPS what

#

I'll stick to Java, thanks...pepesweat

fringe salmon
#

friend played and streamd on a 2070, 60+fps

#

means nothing, not like minecraft fps in any version is stable or around the same, depends on map, resolution etc.

#

on java that would be like 12fps max

keen urchin
#

Or, 60, with Optifine lul

fringe salmon
#

congratz, needs mods to get still worse than native performance

keen urchin
#

Well, it's easy to get better FPS, but they should aim for feature parity next

fringe salmon
#

based on this, it is very close to that

keen urchin
#

There are many differences, some intended, some oversights, some bugs
I mean, bedrock doesn't even have spectator mode? Why?

fringe salmon
#

I dont even know what that mode does lmao

keen urchin
#

Spectator let's you fly around and view the map without interacting with it

#

Like, causing mobs to spawn, chunks to activate, etc

fringe salmon
#

soooo restricted creative

keen urchin
#

It does not have the limitations of creative

keen urchin
#

I wonder how much of the performance difference between Bedrock and Java editions is because of the language, and how much is the difference between OGL and DX12U

fringe salmon
#

should be almost fully on java being shit

keen urchin
#

OGL isn't really great either

#

Though maybe Vulkan would be a fitting option

fringe salmon
#

in relation to what we compare it to, it is almost the same

keen urchin
#

Gonna be interesting to see path traced Minecraft on Navi2, how it compares/performs

fringe salmon
#

meh, fully depends to how much RT hardware they put on it, but won't be as much as you can get on ampere

keen urchin
#

Who knows, there might be a lot more difference than just the amount of hardware used

fringe salmon
#

for anything raytracing related? not really

meager crown
#

Vanilla style models for some blocks and items, I can post link if someone wants to try

ashen swallow
radiant copper
#

i love path traced minecraft

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lost my picture tho...

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sad pepe

fading spade
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cries in shitty computer

small comet
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laughs in better computer

orchid shell
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That sounds like a 56k modem I imagine.

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Just sadder.

fading spade
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cries in having money for new computer but can't afford to spend it on one

orchid shell
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Ouch, that's double harsh.

small comet
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laughs in having money for a new computer but not needing one

orchid shell
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What have you got now?

small comet
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i7-9700k, rtx2080ti, 32gb ram, 1tb samsung ssd m.2, a few more tb in hdd

orchid shell
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Nice.

small comet
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and 2 wootings

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well 1 will come in ~100days

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1 is already on desk

novel umbra
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cries in 9700k and 2080

orchid shell
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I just bought a 3950x etc. etc. yesterday and I'm ordering the 2080 Ti today. 4x16GB Cas Latency 16 3600MHz sticks.

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Got the O11 Dynamic XL with the G1 distro plate, also gonna order the block for the 2080 and the CPU block is coming out in like 3 days.

novel umbra
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uhhh

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mine is a laptop

small comet
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laprop

keen urchin
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@meager crown Link please, that looks awesome ๐Ÿ˜„

small comet
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when i ordered this pc 2 years ago i thought about getting a 3990wx and 2 2080tis

orchid shell
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I wish SLI and NVLink were properly supported.

small comet
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well i only didnt know that vram isnt striped but mirrored

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so one 2080ti for me

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will prob get a quadro some time

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for sweet 48gb vram

orchid shell
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NVLink can support striping but they gimped it for the consumer version.

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A Quadro isn't going to be very good for gaming.

small comet
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its not like the 2080ti sees much gaming

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but the DNN eats the vram like free real estate

orchid shell
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Well in that sort of use case you probably should've just gotten a Titan anyway lol.

small comet
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no

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those are shite for the price

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thats the holy grail

novel umbra
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titans make little sense to buy

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for almost any usecase

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for compute you can just buy another 2080 ti

small comet
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titans are a meme imo

novel umbra
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pretty much

orchid shell
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I don't know, they seem pretty good for the not-spending $5.5k on one graphics card use case but if you've got that sweet inheritance go for it lol.

small comet
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like yes they have more vram but..... the quadro cards are way better for vram and DNN

novel umbra
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the titan only has 1 gb more iirc?

small comet
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the titan rtx has 24gb

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the rtx2080ti only 12/11

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not sure rn

novel umbra
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nvm

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thogought the titan had 12

small comet
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11gb is 2080ti

novel umbra
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and the 2080 ti had 11

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like the previous gen KEKW

orchid shell
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The Titan V is 12.

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I had to look it up.

fading spade
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laughs in having money for a new computer but not needing one
@small comet gimme one then ;) xd

keen urchin
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Meanwhile I got 16 GiB on my 700โ‚ฌ card lul

small comet
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na saving for rtx quadro 8000

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@keen urchin and yet ur card is shite for DNN workloads

fading spade
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You actually want to spend โ‚ฌ5500 on a gpu????

small comet
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yes

fading spade
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O.o

small comet
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programming is my hobby and im super invested in AI so i can also spend the money on it

keen urchin
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I don't have DNN workloads to run
I just need the space for textures, and it's great :p

small comet
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well this was dnn specific

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i dont care much for gaming these days

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got a switch and acnh

orchid shell
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Also I gotta laugh at how meme just means joke now, not even any specific type of joke.

small comet
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and a ps4 with yakuza/ff7/kh3/kh1+2

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so

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im set

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@orchid shell meme doesnt mean just joke

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the titan is a joke cause "its the most powerful gpu of the world"

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thats why you meme people asking for gaming pcs with titans

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like 10 of them

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in a 3u rack mounted server chassis

orchid shell
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So you just said that people don't say meme to mean joke, then just replaced meme with joke in what was said...

keen urchin
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Is it really that bad for DNN workloads, though?
I don't recall any benchmarks on that

frosty dew
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i was thinking of getting me a 2080ti eventually, but there are supposed to come a next gen of the cards right?

orchid shell
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Yeah, soon.

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They were reportedly supposed to be announced/out near the end of the year, but, well, Corona.

small comet
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@keen urchin well the nvidia cards can easily pull 100tflops+ in DNN workloads if u get the quadro 6000 or 8000 rtx

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or a titan v in this case

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thats just the tensor cores

frosty dew
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so you think it's worth to wait? or should i get a 2080ti as soon as i got the money together somewhere in july/august, after i know my car stays road legal for another 2 years?

small comet
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thats why usually all AI research is done on nvidia cards due to special cores that are optimized for AI workloads

orchid shell
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It's really up to you, there's always something new around the corner but we are near the end of the 20XX series life cycle. I couldn't wait so I'll probably just sell my 2080 Ti for a decent price and use that toward the upgrade. That'll also let me wait for them to iron out any kinks.

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What do you have now?

frosty dew
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you dont wanna know GWvictoriaMeguFace

novel umbra
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9800 GT

orchid shell
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Oh, there's also Big Navi to consider. It's supposed to be faster than a 2080 Ti but not as fast as the 3080 Ti is supposed to be.

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*8800 GT SLI

frosty dew
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current gpu i have is a (borrowed) 750ti

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2GB, if that even matters.

orchid shell
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My last computer is an i5 3570k and a GTX 480...

novel umbra
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dunno if that is a gddr5 version

orchid shell
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Literally 10 years old.

novel umbra
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at least the gpu kept the room warm I guess

orchid shell
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I definitely saved on heating, but lost on AC.

novel umbra
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lol

frosty dew
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i dont know how old my gpu is, i only know it's from the old pc of a friend, and now it is in my new pc GWowoSmug

keen urchin
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Ok, did some googling
Apparently the VII is about 85-90% of the performance of a 2080 Ti, but it's rough to make your code run on it thonk

orchid shell
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They have the good old ATi/AMD graphics drivers from what I've heard too.

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But hopefully Big Navi has decent drivers for once.

novel umbra
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they should have made the VII a vega 64 lol

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not a 56

keen urchin
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ROCm community needs to grow, I guess

small comet
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@keen urchin 10% difference can easily be a day or two more run time when training networks

orchid shell
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If Big Navi is good enough I may go all the way Team Red again, even if the 3080 Ti is better.

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My first build was an AMD Athlon 3000, 1 WHOLE GB of GEiL RAM, and an X800 XL.

keen urchin
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I have little doubt at this point that Navi2 will be competitive

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How the flagships cards will line up? That's anyone's guess

small comet
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i wish there was cheap cards with tons of vram that can easily run DNNs

fringe salmon
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well ampere is supposed to go really big in vram

orchid shell
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In my completely non-technical opinion AMD has been closing the gap graphics wise but nVidia will still have the performance crown for the upcoming generation. I hope I'm wrong though.

keen urchin
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There's isn't that much of a gap than a lack of large AMD GPUs

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5700 XT is what, a third the size of a 2080 Ti?

fringe salmon
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and that lack is caused by a gap lol, after all it comes down to the 64cu limit on GCN that they needed to work around

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and that really means nothing, you are comparing 7N+ vs 16N+ processes

novel umbra
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adn a 2080ti has a lot of die size on real time raytracing components

small comet
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safe to say only the future knows whos gonna come out on top

fringe salmon
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nah it's pretty much already known that big navi is not that amazing to be catch up and be ahead of next gen too

keen urchin
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It properly comes down to how much R&D AMD wants to invest into building a halo product

small comet
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@fringe salmon i meant more like 2 or 3 gens from now

fringe salmon
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it has nothing to do with that if they are technically limited and only now can even work on a halo product

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ah I see

small comet
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like next gen will prob be a clusterfuck anyway

orchid shell
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It also doesn't help AMD that nVidia has a lot more money than they do.

fringe salmon
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but jesus you should consider writing for tomshardware on amd stuff, they need someone with amd bias to balance their intel shill I feel like

small comet
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who is you

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strong pronoun game today

fringe salmon
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xea

small comet
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oh

fringe salmon
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didn't think you'd think of yourself has having an amd bias :p

small comet
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no the excited guy

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i couldnt care if its nvidia or amd as long as training time goes down and more vram

fringe salmon
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ye progress is exciting, regardless who makes it

orchid shell
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3enlightened5me.

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There is also cost to consider. AMD is typically cheaper.

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Well, for those of us who aren't Scrooge McDuck anyway.

frosty dew
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so far i had either, amd, intel, nvidia (cpu/gpu)

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btw, 3900x or 3950x if the priority is gaming, but video editing stuff / streaming is a secondary possibility?

fringe salmon
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3900 works just fine for that, 3950 is obviously better, but you need to decide if it's worth it for oyu

small comet
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cough 3990wx cough

fringe salmon
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probably not worth if you say the rest is secondary

orchid shell
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Cough cough just be rich and buy the Gibson hack

small comet
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gibson?