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bleak pike
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No

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you're on a timeout

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bad t3

hollow sphinx
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wha

eternal basin
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FUCKING FUCK MINECRAFT YOU FUCK

fading spade
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?

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You good?

west cedar
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someone just fell in lava

fading spade
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Probably....

hollow sphinx
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XD

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and lost their entire inventory

novel umbra
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@bleak pike oberon dansgame

trim rock
orchid prism
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Yes pls

bleak pike
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I tried it on PS4

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Hateed using controller and 30fps

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this might give me a reason to play

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bet it will have denuvo lol

orchid prism
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Or worse.

sleek gorge
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i found the slow mo jumping to be the most effective way to do a lot in the game, which also kinda ruined it

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for me personally anyway

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also you better be able to adjust the FOV on PC because it's sickening on the PS4

bleak pike
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ye lol

ripe tendon
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Denuvo or not it won't be 30 fps and force a controller so you win.

novel umbra
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ps4 fanboys are mad lol

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because a 3 year old game got ported to consoles

bleak pike
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felt like yesterday

orchid prism
ripe tendon
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seems odd to get upset that a game on your chosen platform is on others

orchid prism
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Muh exclusivity.

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They paid Sony tax to get their exclusive. No one else deserves their hard earned money.

west cedar
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Well they went 2 decades with "muh exclusives are better than yours" as sole argument in the console wars

ripe tendon
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Compared to xbox they still are lol

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but even so it's weird

orchid prism
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It's a funny argument. Especially since often ports are crap. From what I'm told the Halo release on OG Xbox still runs better than the brand new PC port.

Checkmate PCMR.

ripe tendon
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Yeah ports usually suck bad

fringe salmon
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because ports often arent ports but emulations

tough jay
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They could have just used the pc version as a base for at least the first halo.

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halo 2 the pc version was crap from what I know. But that may just have been the windows vista tie in

west cedar
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I don't remember it being crap tbh

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but i played it a bit late, on win7

tough jay
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probably, especially at launch windows vista was rough

orchid prism
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😄

bleak pike
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@flat frost its a meh port aye

sleek gorge
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yeah CE on PC is a bit meh

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the sound was really whack when i was playing it earlier

tough jay
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That sure does look like upscaling in an emulator

bleak pike
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Destiny 2 is going to die real fast

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This season is awful

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It’s so sad to say destiny 2 was better off with activision

sleek gorge
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E3 has been in decline recently, but it still hurts to see it cancelled

orchid prism
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Won't miss it. It's become way too bloated.

sleek gorge
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It was a thing for my mates and I, we'd all get together and watch it. Even if the presentation wasn't great, we still enjoyed it

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I guess the major players might do their own things at the same time, that's about the best I can hope for

trim rock
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Yeah I like all those conferences hopefully they still happen even without E3 in the background

orchid prism
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I'm sure the game Devs will simply move presentations to Twitch and YouTube.

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If anything this just means they can plan better and pre record parts.

trim rock
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But that's no fun

bleak pike
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F

fading spade
fading spade
fading spade
bleak pike
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Lol

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The new cod war mode is so fun

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Not the Battle royal

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The money mode

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We had a real Cod 4 moment, i was on a nearby roof, my friend was pushing and i was taking out enemies about to kill him as he was fighting other ones and a mw2 mode where i was spotting enemies via thermal.

sleek gorge
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What's the money mode?

trim rock
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First squad to earn (and secure) one million bucks wins, it's pretty fun

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There are respawns obviously

novel umbra
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new witcher game is confirmed

bronze niche
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It is

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pretty dam good

mild venture
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Gta ne1

weak cypress
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Do you though?

slow quail
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anyone got analog working with Borderlands 3?

ripe tendon
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Nay. Last I tried there was an odd delay when switching devices between controller input and the mouse.

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Unless you play your FPS' like walk-stop-aim-stop-walk It's not useful unless they fixed it.

bleak pike
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pack for you

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@fading spade you too

small comet
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that wont look good on my steam profile

fading spade
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they all run on Linux......omfh

orchid prism
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😄

ripe tendon
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How is modern warfare the only game in the world that doesnt save audio levels in the windows mixer after closing?

trim rock
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How is it the only game in the world that doesn't save settings

small comet
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setting audio levels in mixer instead of the game options

trim rock
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Every time I play I have to set it back to fullscreen and 100% render resolution

fading spade
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same for modern warfare 2

small comet
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@bleak pike already have it

fading spade
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O.o ofc you do Tony

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ofc you do

bronze niche
ripe tendon
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Because game options often times don't apply audio levels until after their bs insanely loud intro

small comet
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4H8VZ-WGVWR-0X24C

bleak pike
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someone took it

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without saying

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gay

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What game was it

ripe tendon
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QQ

small comet
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we just talked about the bundle

bleak pike
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oh

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LOL

small comet
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how would it be unclear what game this would be

bleak pike
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so it was lana then

small comet
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its one of these

fading spade
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O.o

bleak pike
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This mod pack gives you port frames as a rewar, not seen that before o.0

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reeeee

fading spade
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how to get rich in minecraft if you are on a mulitplayer server and your currency is diamonds

  1. Find decent villager with a trade to give them berries for an emerald
  2. get two foxes and tame them
  3. make berry farm with the foxes
  4. get much emeralds
  5. get other villager for book trades
  6. setup shop
  7. much diamonds cause you can sell for super cheap

You are now rich af

bleak pike
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im rich anyway

west cedar
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nice CoD invite

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@fading spade any tutorial on how to get rich IRL ?

fading spade
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na m8

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im broke -.-

west cedar
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:(

raw mesa
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sooo uh

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wooting keyboards break kotor 2

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it breaks the mouse

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it constantly scrolls because it picks up the xbox controller part of the keyboard

fringe salmon
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you can disable xinput in the settings

raw mesa
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bruh

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doing it rn

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thx u

west cedar
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huh

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kotor has xinput support ? TIL

raw mesa
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No

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Just breaks the game when it detects it

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The opposite of support lmao

bleak pike
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I think there was a fix for it

raw mesa
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PLEASE LET ME KNOW

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caps lock

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nice

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you gota link?

bleak pike
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I swear to god I got it working once

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Just can’t remember

raw mesa
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nope disabled xinput

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and my character still moves without me touching my keyboard

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my old keyboard works too

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its just the wooting

bleak pike
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I’ll look into it tomoz maybe

raw mesa
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thx

bleak pike
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It isn’t the wooting

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It’s the game

raw mesa
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nah

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bc if plug my old keyboard in it works fine

bleak pike
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Well of course it will

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It isn’t emulating xinput it dinput

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This occurs in games that don’t allow 2 inputs at once (xinput/dinput and a mouse) so you have to disable them in wootility, sometime a reboot is required

raw mesa
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ah

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ill restart

bleak pike
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Reeee I knew something was off with halo CE when I was shooting

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Shots wouldn’t register or were weird

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Turns out 144fps breaks shooting

keen urchin
small comet
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havent even played through it

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and yes 4dlcs

keen urchin
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Wife hates me for not wanting to play it yet

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But it just doesn't seem worth the price yet for me

small comet
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ill wait for goty

orchid prism
small comet
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u could just wait till the game becomes actually good

cinder wadi
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The game is kind of "good" though? It is just virtually the same as Borderlands 2 from what I read, so it just depends if you like more of this. 🙃

small comet
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its not really like BL2 imo

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my list would def go BL > BL3 > BL2PS > BL2

cinder wadi
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The original Borderlands is best? 😮

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I only played BL2. Not bad but also repetitive at some point. Some day I will pick up BL3 but I am not in a hurry.

small comet
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i can easily tell you why BL is the best

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short ripe story

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having played bl2 and bl2ps multiple times

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dont remember the story

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i played original BL once and remember the story as if it was yesterday

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na

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like dont get me wrong

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bl2 is good

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just the story drags for sooooo long

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oh and DPUH in BL2 i guess

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a weapon you can get in less than an hour gameplay that will carry you through the game

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with ease

cinder wadi
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Borderlands has a story? 😲

fallow bronze
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barely

cinder wadi
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I though BL is just a random gathering of annoying characters. 🤔

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The shooting is fun though.

small comet
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altho there were HF smgs in borderlands

fallow bronze
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played Borderlands 3 because i got it with my gpu. it was fun. i have no intention of ever playing it again :p

keen urchin
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I liked TPS.

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Too bad it's 'unfinished'

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Never got its DLC

novel umbra
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yea

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as a game TPS is better than 2 tbh

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jsut not finished

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also TPS>BL2>BL>BL3 imo

keen urchin
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One was good, story-wise

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But the controls/performance were lacking a bit

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Well, 2 doesn't exactly run great, either

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But at least smooth

novel umbra
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TPS is better than two story wise as well

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mainly because it doesn't have lilith that much lol

fading spade
ripe tendon
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@bleak pike How do you enjoy Plunder? That's the most low action stuff I've played in a shooter for a long time.

bleak pike
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@ripe tendon I love it so much,if you aint getting much action you're doing it wrong.

elder swallow
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It's pretty bad

bleak pike
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im obsessed with it

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for now

elder swallow
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If you consider checking every room in 10 buildings for cash "action" then maybe fps just isnt for you

bleak pike
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then you're doing it wrong

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lol

ripe tendon
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its run around and collect money then deposit it if nobody is camping the heli spawn

bleak pike
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dont focus on looting, focus on hunting down the top players and go to hot zones.

ripe tendon
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sure the last 5 mins is a lil chaotic but thats out of like 30 min games

bleak pike
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Im almost always fighting people

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You can also do bounties

ripe tendon
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ended with 7 kills and all of them were the last 5-10 mins. Maybe we landed in a weird spot

bleak pike
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Ye

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i average 15-20 kills

elder swallow
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Or I can just play BR

bleak pike
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Mostly cos we are usually in top 5 so we get hunted

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its so fun and chaotic

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xD

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i also love it because you can play however way you want

ripe tendon
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we were in first for a good half

bleak pike
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like i prefer to be recon why my team mates get cash

ripe tendon
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Once you deposit the cash in the bag is it safe? or can they still get it?

bleak pike
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safe e

ripe tendon
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Cause if they could take it out of the bag that would be stupid. Seemed like they did

bleak pike
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Either you died before deposit or you didn't realise something

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cos its never happened to me

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you only lose cash if you die before doposting

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bags can also only do x amount

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there is a cap to baloons

ripe tendon
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this was a heli

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and definitely deposited cause it let me do another E to tell me I had no cash

bleak pike
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not sure then

ripe tendon
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but after I died after depositing on team jumped up like a huge spike. Seemed odd

bleak pike
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other team mates may have not deposited

ripe tendon
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For sure didn't. Yay randos

bleak pike
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its great with friends, randos i dont even bother.

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I only play if my friends are

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new cod

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f2p mode

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BR and Plunder is free

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rest isn't

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Ye but it uses Cod MW

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basically

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its Cod MW

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With the base game locked

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i love it personally

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or well plunder

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not tried br

meager stump
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i only tried br and it's rlly fun

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so many things making you not camp the entire game out

bleak pike
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it has a cool respawn functionm

meager stump
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compared to other BR games, this one rewards you so much for moving around constantly

bleak pike
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itll die down

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i got bored of br a longgg time ago

meager stump
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it might, but it doesn't feel like BR

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it's quite unique for the entire duration until the last zones

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it feels like some co-op game until then

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you get so many missions and optional objectives to compete against another team

sleek gorge
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Pubg still my favourite BR game, but the cod BR is actually very fun

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Although I have no idea about game balance, weapon choices, perks etc so I'm always amused when I pick up some guy's blinged out AR

orchid prism
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Never liked BR games. Gimme that sweet Deathmatch or Team CTF 😄

fading spade
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I mostly just play Insurgency, no other FPS game...I sometimes forget you can pick up the guns enemies drop in that game because it doesnt have a HUD other than tell you where the capture points are and a compass

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so yeah, I need to try to remember if I see a gun on the ground I can pick it up

bleak pike
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CS is lame tho

orchid prism
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Don't like CS either. The mechanics are so dated at this point, and I really don't like not respawning.

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Give me some Quake any day 😄

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That's fine for those who like competitive. I like to blow off steam and shoot the shit. Never touched ranked in any game for a reason 😄

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I guess my main issues with CS is downtime - Which is so much longer in a BR potentially.

fringe salmon
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did you get to try the diabotical beta mansen?

orchid prism
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I... I don't even know what that is 😄

fringe salmon
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quake style game, made by ex quake pros

orchid prism
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I see - adds to mental list

fringe salmon
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currently in closed beta, you get a code if you sign up with email on their side

orchid prism
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I used to play a lot of CS. But this was before it was made a product.

fading spade
west cedar
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I still think that while the idea comes from a nice intention, all this will achieve is ruin access for minecraft to people in those countries

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kids who wanted to enjoy their game won't be able to, because the people who greenlit this were too braindead to realize that counties like china already ban games by the hundreds for their content

raw mesa
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i managed to make kotor 2 work

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but then it broke again

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and idk how i made the wooting 2 work with t

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so gg

fading spade
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y u on windows
@vital wyvern freaking college project -.-

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I can do them all on Linux except one of them and she refuses to let me use anything else

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I dont want the hassle of that

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I only have one SSD so I erased it all

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I keep all the documents I need on my USB stick

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and on mega

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I dont keep anything too important on my laptop anyway

bleak pike
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reee

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server full

fading spade
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oh rip

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people are still joining it seems though

oblique sapphire
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and on mega
@fading spade I always forget my mega passwordsGWspenderThinkChubby

fading spade
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if you do forgot that you fucked :O

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but I like the 50GB you get for free <33

oblique sapphire
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Same

fringe salmon
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imagine not using google drive

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there you can at least forget your account and the data will still get used rooSmug

fading spade
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IKR!! its amazing

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and its not encrypted so anyone can see what you share :DD

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no need to deal with permissions to allow others to see files

west cedar
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yeah, why doesn't the US army just use google drive is beyond me

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they could save so much on infrastructure costs

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maybe enough to afford healthcare for veterans

ripe tendon
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I'm a MEGA fan personally

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https://youtu.be/hYYNqqGxx6c?t=341
More importantly, Does anybody know of a modern video game character kinda like Simon (the guy in yellow) that may have a tech look? This character has been on my mind since last night and it's driving me nuts.

This is the fourth video in my Rogue Galaxy Playthrough. The stranger leaves Jaster a sword and a battle recorder and leaves. Jaster is promptly attacked by two Giants, the first minor boss in this game. Afterwards, he meets Simon and Steve.

This video is part of my Rogue G...

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I thought maybe they were in Xenoblade Chronicles 2 but I was wrong.

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I think the face was a mask with round at the mouth and hoses coming out both sides? I'm gonna go fucking insane.

bleak pike
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I love the money mode

west cedar
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oh wow cpt sparklez is still relevant ?

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he still looks the exact same 10 years later pepesweat

orchid prism
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😄

bleak pike
fading spade
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why it got the deathnote music?

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everything looks like its got a thin layer of water over it

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mostly on the beginnig areas

fringe salmon
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thats how "accurate" metal looks like, if you assume no dirt or unevenness on it etc. and not other effects that make real stuff look different than accurate raytraced stuff

small comet
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no its what quin said

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unrealistically clean spaceship

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not that any of the spaceships are realistIc

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and thats not deathnote music

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its the halo ost

fallow bronze
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too shiny :p but the lighting is pretty

small comet
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not really too shiny... if ud polish a piece of metal it would look the same

fallow bronze
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but its painted :p

small comet
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just unbelieveable due to visible darker spots

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and well it being a space station where a marine in a 2 ton armor walks around

keen urchin
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I learned how important and normal, specular and ss maps are through modding Skyrim, lol

small comet
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literally just under 2 euros for a 500watt psu

keen urchin
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Are they difficult to recycle? I imagine the copper starts being worth more than that at this point

small comet
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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i noticed wrong channel anyway

fading spade
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HP being cheap? 🤔

glad adder
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no but you can get used hardware cheap

bleak pike
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its sooo lame he is locking it behind patron

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Wait

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theere is a way to bypass patron

fringe salmon
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the video he linked earlier

orchid prism
bleak pike
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rip

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i cant use this mod on the window store version

fringe salmon
bleak pike
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ok i can

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but its aids

fading spade
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he knew that I knew he knew but he knew I knew he knew he knew
Carl Sagan 2020

ripe tendon
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Oh shit, he's making a comeback? Sweet

ripe tendon
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Oh. So disappointing. I thought we were getting the real Carl Sagan back

fading spade
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real carl sagan?

ripe tendon
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The space guy from like the 80's or 90's

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That guy

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(he's dead thats why I said comeback)

small comet
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is this game related?

ripe tendon
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related to the game video she linked

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so by association yes

fading spade
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just by the persons name

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xd

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wait, the game carl also likes science and space

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O.o its like they are the same person

ripe tendon
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Or he uses that name cause he's a fan maybe

fading spade
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he always talks about science and biology and chemistry in some of his mario maker videos

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Yeahhhh maybe

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the way he says CUUUBBZZ will forever haunt my dreams

keen urchin
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Urgh

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Stupid mesh

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Can't get the physics to work right

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Well, I got it to work right
But it stopped colliding with the body ._.

fringe salmon
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have you tried enabling colliders?

keen urchin
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I'll have a look at it again

fringe salmon
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(I have no idea what you are on about)

keen urchin
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Lol

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Tried porting some armor to a different body

fringe salmon
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that still tells me nothing

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like are you modding minecraft or writing your own game from scratch

keen urchin
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Modding Skyrim

fringe salmon
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ah, well good luck

keen urchin
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Seriously
Modding was never this complicated

fading spade
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oh yeah there are like 40 trillion body types in that game

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i forget the names of the most common ones

fringe salmon
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Bob

fading spade
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Sandra

fringe salmon
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tbf you are modding a game from a company known for a terrible engine and terribly messy game releases

keen urchin
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I know
I can't fathom why a modding community so large evolved around a game so ... annoying to mod

fringe salmon
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because they were already around from previous attempts at games where it wasnt that bad yet

bleak pike
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anyone wanna play plunder?

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we are looking for a third

ripe tendon
fading spade
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it is so strange to see Grain and Doc in the same place but not knowing eachother https://youtu.be/hFjOn4wII70?t=28

Mojang invited me and other Minecraft creators to 3 fun days in Stockholm! Today we went on a crazy viking party!

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Doc is so much more social than you would ever think from watching his minecraft videos, like freaking hell

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he barely talks to anyone on the server he plays on and when he does its all as effiecient as possible ahaha

orchid prism
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Release 👏The 👏 Full 👏 Game 👏 You 👏 Cowards 👏

orchid prism
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Yup. Basically an ITX OEM PC at this point. Except even more DRM.

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You clearly haven't seen SFF PCs 😄

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Just look at the Corsair One for a similar design.

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Anyhow - My point is that it's as large as a big speaker at this point. Unless it gets REAL cheap, it's going to be a bit of a burden.

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Of course. Gotta over-engineer that shit after RRoD and at this size and hardware.

bleak pike
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I need a cod warzone buddy

tough jay
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On the desktop I feel like the who atx spec could use a revamp

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a fresh standard with no backwards compatibility.

fringe salmon
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well we might finally get that at least in form of a new PSU

tough jay
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Modern gpu's are the biggest factor. Generally gaming systems only need one so having a formfactor that allows for tower coolers on them would help

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there is a standard that reduces the voltages of the psu so the motherboard takes care of the minor voltages

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I personally mostly build micro atx systems but then again appart from my personal rig and some for family members I only build the pc's we use at work

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at work we basically used ivy bridge - haswell i3's - fx6300's (a mistake) - skylake pentiums - and the few more recent builds 2200g, 2400g, 3200g.
most systems needed at least 3 monitors so there are some cheap graphics cards used as well like the gt710.

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the spec I had to follow was cheaper is better, faster is better

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the rest /care

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and of course supporting at least 3 monitors, for some at least 4 for me at least 5

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nuc like rigs are nice though if you don't need a lot of display out and can tank the bit higher price

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what surprices me most about what I build is that almost all systems still work. Even the ones using 35 euro psu's and 40 euro or less motherboards

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granted I didn't go full garbage on them as they are still be quiet units

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the motherboards on the fx cpus where problematic, I had to peel off some dust filtration and turn of fan control to prevent the motherboards from overheating in the summer

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I never went that route fearing to be forever tech support

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so basically you build on commission?

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I never really build pretty, mostly because I either build for work or familly - closed sidepanel or for myself where I just upgrade part for part so not much fitting togetther visually.

tough jay
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I don't mind cable management myself, just in the past I never cared to spend more on better matterials.

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I may eventually give my system a big update with a custom loop and while cable combs are probably not something I'd use I can see myself sleeving my own cables

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I already made some mouse / headphone / usb cables

sleek gorge
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yeah man, i'm very excited

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recently went back and 100% completed the 2 games

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apparently there's rumours of an Alan Wake remake in the northlight engine which is also interesting

keen urchin
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@flat frost Nice
Will be interesting, after we just got the specs of the XSX

bleak pike
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Pretty cool

west cedar
bleak pike
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English?

fallow bronze
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?

bleak pike
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my vpn

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oops

west cedar
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Maybe Callum forgot English and is asking if anyone's got English to spare

bleak pike
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i was on german ip

west cedar
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I have a French IP and the link's in english still

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without being logged in

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so idk

bleak pike
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idk why

fringe salmon
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german for me so prob dont have french translation yet

west cedar
orchid prism
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See you in a few decades 😄

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Uff... hard to say. They're all oldschool RPGs.

fringe salmon
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baldurs gate so you have them done when 3 comes out

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but then you wont miss potential QoL if you play them after 3

orchid prism
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Unrelated story. Very different ruleset as well.

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Baldur uses the oooooold AD&D. Neverwinter uses 3rd edition with modifications. But no party

fallow bronze
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isometric? no its not isometric

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its a nice game! great atmostphere

ripe tendon
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Buy em all if they're stupid cheap

keen urchin
#

GOG always has something for a very low price

bleak pike
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I just stumbled upon Resi 5 on youtube, holy crap it aint aged well

cinder wadi
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Really! Actually I think it looks quite nice. 😲

orchid prism
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Ooooh.

soft pendant
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Hyper Light Drifter has an outstanding soundtrack too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxFdYqHYiUg (obligatory: 'support the developers and buy the soundtrack/game')

Composer: Disasterpeace

Tracklist:
0:00 - Vignette: Panacea
1:43 - Vignette: Visions
4:54 - Titan
7:46 - Wisdom's Tragedy
9:53 - Seeds of the Crown
15:47 - Vignette: Corruption
16:58 - The Midnight Wood
23:36 - Gaol in the Deep
27:30 - The Resonant Canyon
32:50 - Stasis Awake...

▶ Play video
fading spade
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when you play the game it really fits the mood of the levels

fallow bronze
#

I can't seem to launch watchdogs on epic gamestore 😦

fringe salmon
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not having any issues with the second, dont have the first one

fallow bronze
#

hmm manually starting watch_dogs.exe seems to do something

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hmm uplay needed to be installed i think

fringe salmon
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ah yeah I think thats true

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oh ac odyssey is free till 23th and you can keep your progress if you buy it later

west cedar
#

If you're going to redeem epic games, get the Stanley parable as well

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It's a damn good game

orchid prism
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Oh yes.

fallow bronze
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played that game a long time ago already

fading spade
#

Stock hardware PlayStation 2

This is freaking incredible

tacit rose
#

I can with 100% experience of it, F1 2019 is actually awful steering on anything but a steering wheel XD
Honestly, more surprised on how crappy it was 😂

novel umbra
#

bethesda know that we don't wanna play the game with denuvo

fallow bronze
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so... what about performance differences? thats always a major complaint with denuvo right?

novel umbra
#

apparently it has an offline mode

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doesn't prevent denuvo from absolutely destroying performance

sleek gorge
bleak pike
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Lol

west cedar
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good

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leave some for the rest of us

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/s btw

bleak pike
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Lol

sleek gorge
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i cannot for the life of me fix steam

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it has plagued me for years

small comet
#

change dl server

novel umbra
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first that

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otherwise might be slow af drives

bleak pike
sleek gorge
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strange issue with this game

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defaults my monitor to 1080p and won't let me go higher

novel umbra
#

nice

bleak pike
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you don't like BR because u don't know how to play it

This triggers me so much, i dont like BR cos its boring and stale.

orchid prism
#

To each their own - I just don't like the looting and downtime aspect.

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😄

bleak pike
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EXACTLY

tacit rose
#

I only play rally but that codemaster game has been fine on controller
@flat frost I'm not sure what's going on with F1, but that's the first driving game that I had to stop after a very short time because of fatigue (and anger with the steering machanics) (I'm trying to bulk up public profiles for driving games, so if you have any, do tell me)

bleak pike
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What

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the

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actual

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flying

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fuck

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Doom Eternal forces you to link your account to bnet

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Even for SP

fringe salmon
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yes the steam page has ben showing that since it's listed there

bleak pike
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i didnt think it would lock you out of singleplayer

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i mean

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SP

fringe salmon
#

have you looked at the reddit thing yama posted earlier? maybe that works around that too

bleak pike
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i just blocked it in the firewall

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works too

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also it keeeps forcing my monitor to run at 1080p like you @sleek gorge

fringe salmon
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do you even have a higher res monitor than full hd

small comet
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@fringe salmon yes 2px

fringe salmon
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wow

small comet
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bra minecraft looks the same on those "high res monitors" and my dream monitor

sleek gorge
#

Once I see the game resolution to 1440p it was chill

bleak pike
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i hate bing at 60fps 😦

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i cant handle 1440p on doom eternal well

tough jay
#

So I head you had a minecraft server running, how to join it?

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I really need to catch up on tv shows so minecraft is perfect right now

sleek gorge
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running it at ultra, 1440p 144fps

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it's smooth af

bleak pike
#

@tough jay it's nodded and pretty hard, other than thst just download pack and send me your ign

tough jay
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which modpack?

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anyway my ign is qlum like always

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Seems like a reasonably large modpack

bleak pike
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@tough jay it is really hard tho

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so if you're up for it....

tough jay
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just give me the server credentials

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oh yea, reading it back it does sound like me being an arse

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Would have been worse if I just joined the server today

bleak pike
#

OOFT, mc world is 18gb

orchid prism
#

1 or 2?

fading spade
#

damnnnnn this is a freaking WTF moment

west cedar
#

Roses are red, violets are blue, Lana keeps posting, clickbait videos

knotty cloud
#

i... wanna announce that Goat of duty is free atm

fading spade
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XD

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Disney XD

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DECEARING EGG

fringe salmon
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tomb raider 2013 is also free if you get it now on steam

west cedar
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So is lara croft temple of Osiris

fading spade
#

luigi just hangs there if the plant is coming from a block at y=9

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and if you have the star power you just chill here but if you dont have the star power you get teleported to the left like 5 blocks away

orchid prism
#

🤔

fading spade
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its strange

small comet
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press x to doubt

fading spade
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:')

small comet
#

so i have just been brought to a desserted island with an impostor

fading spade
#

what game?

orchid prism
#

It's the new AC.

fading spade
#

o

orchid prism
#

Animal Crossing - Not Assassin's Creed. 😄

fading spade
#

Yeah

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its definetly assasins creed

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wtf you talking about animal crossing for?

small comet
#

the series is self aware

fading spade
#

XD

small comet
#

this goose guy gives me goosebumps

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get it

orchid prism
keen urchin
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@bleak pike Can I get another Minecraft for online play without paying full price on the Mojang store again?

small comet
fading spade
#

You can now die from [Intentional Game Design] in minecraft

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:')) I love it

keen urchin
#

Sleeping in the Nether?

fading spade
#

Nu

keen urchin
#

Seen that message before, not sure what it was

fading spade
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its when you die trying to use the respawn anchor in the overworld

small comet
#

respawn anchor?

fading spade
#

Yep

small comet
#

minecraft got really shite it seems

keen urchin
#

Yeah, never heard about that either

fading spade
#

its new

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and awesome

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you can make PVP arenas automatic now if you build them in the nether :DD

small comet
#
Minecraft Wiki

The respawn anchor is a block that allows players to set their spawn point in the Nether. It can be charged up to a level of 4 using glowstone and this level is depleted by 1 each time a player uses the block to respawn. Use in the Overworld or the End results in an explosion,...

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seems like a shit block

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one of those many shit additions

fading spade
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you respawn in nether if you feed it glowstone

keen urchin
#

Well, they're superseding Diamond tools with Netherite tools now
Which are a nearly meaningless upgrade and take significant effort to get...

small comet
#

minecraft was actually good once

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when it wasnt so retardetly complex

fading spade
#

its really tricky now for sure

keen urchin
#

Eh, it's still fairly simple, all things considered

fading spade
#

if you dont know the new features yeah

small comet
#

complex was prob the wrong word

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lets say

fading spade
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or dont want to use them

small comet
#

it feels like downloading a modpack

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and not minecraft

keen urchin
#

Complex is what I'd use to describe Factorio
Which isn't all that different on some level

small comet
#

thats the word id choose tbh if i have to hold a speech

orchid prism
#

Today's theme - Everyone gets a tiny Mario Galaxy planet to build on 😄

bleak pike
#

I think they are just realising a large chunk of their players play modded

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Because vanilla is so boring

orchid prism
#

Everyone and their mom have played Vanilla to death by this point.

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I stopped playing religiously around the time when minecarts still didn't work in MP. Before the Nether? I'm pretty sure.

#

I miss the old community days.

I remember being a mod on a server that basically had a big pre-limited kingdom where players could build their own cities by claiming chunks, and then they were leased out later on.

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I love walking around in the streets looking at people's houses. I had designed chunk wide roads with sewers below, so people could design whatever.

keen urchin
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@bleak pike Oi, I asked you something what

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Isn't that thing, like, severely underpowered?

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They should make a new one, with a 15W Ryzen 4000 instead 🤔

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Are they throttling the X1?

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It's a 15W SoC

orchid prism
#

The Switch is amazing 😄

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But definitely grab a pro-controller, if you want to use it for TV.

keen urchin
#

It has better graphics, but the CPU is on par with my 4 year old phone :p

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Pls no delay on desktop 4000 series ._.

bleak pike
#

I mean there are ways to play mc without paying

fading spade
#

But you can only join offline servers

orchid prism
#

Gotta DRM them servers 😄

bleak pike
#

ye

tough jay
#

Being parts of a pirate friendly minecraft server in the past I can say it can be rather annoying to keep griefers out of an open server if you can't ban their minecraft account.

orchid prism
#

My thoughts exactly - I know some people literally can't afford the game in rough times. But y' gotta be able to permaban peeps.

tough jay
#

Ip bans and MAC bans are a thing but they are not bulletproof

orchid prism
#

I remember one time where hackers found an exploit in our RP/Towns server. They ruined everything for half a day. Thankfully we had an oooold backup.

tough jay
#

mostly people wanting to grief are more often the people without a paid account

orchid prism
#

It ended up being a largely positive experience. Every town banded together and helped each other re-building what had been vanished. And the Admin donated stuff

tough jay
#

The server I was a part of for a long time learned the lesson of griefing pretty early on. When the server was still popular it got massively trolled by a group named goroncity. This was in early beta, after that we made sure we had good backups

orchid prism
#

Say I want to start Minecraft back up. Are there any simple, good "factions" mods these days?

What I basically need.

  • Being able to start/join a faction (A city)
  • Claiming tiles for the faction, and then lending them out to members
  • Bonus for some kind of point based renting system.
orchid prism
#

Ugh... nevermind for now. Gotta ask Mojang to recover my old account. That'll take forever I'm sure 😄

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2010 club!

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October 2nd 😄

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I never liked it. It felt like a meaty hellscape.

fading spade
#

meaty xd

keen urchin
#

Been sharing a Minecraft account with my wife

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But she wants me to join some online server with her

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But I don't think 25€ is a fair price for that

bleak pike
#

@keen urchin i can loan you my second accxount

keen urchin
#

I already got the game

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I pay 25€ for online DRM

orchid prism
#

I bought the game once, so my entire household should be able to play it at once!

keen urchin
#

Which is possible

fringe salmon
#

yes you got the game, if you let someone else play it you need a second copy that the other person can use, seems normal

bleak pike
#

Sorry i didnt offer my second account fast enough

keen urchin
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Yesn't
Most games you don't need a second copy, with the most notable exception being MMOs, where you pay per 'server slot' esentially

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@bleak pike You did, though 🤔 Much appreciated, might take you up on that

fringe salmon
#

local coop games and such obviously are different, but otherwise I'd say most games you do need to have a second copy

keen urchin
#

Minecraft essentially is. It's not like Mojang are hosting the servers everyone plays on

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But everyone hosts them for their local group

fringe salmon
#

what

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who is hosting the server has nothing to do with the game being a local coop game or not

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after all the second copy isnt limited to just playing on a server with the other person in the household

keen urchin
#

You host your own servers, what else is it, then?

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Mojang doesn't provide a service you subscribe to

fringe salmon
#

what are you on about, local coop means you start one programm and both players play on it, I dont care where you physically put your server

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and afaik there is no splitscreen mode in minecraft

keen urchin
#

I dunno what you're on about

fringe salmon
#

I'm on about, it makes sense you need a second copy if a second version wants to play a seperate version of a game

#

you are not playing overcooked together on the same screen, you are running two separate instances

keen urchin
#

What has that to do with anything?

fringe salmon
#

Most games you don't need a second copy

#

if you transfer the logic to a physical toy you'd also need a second one for a second person, unless it's specifically designed for two people to play with one toy, like local coop mode

keen urchin
#

If we're going physical, then back in the day, you'd buy one CD of the game, and everyone played together

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You didn't need more than one CD to play LAN games back in the day

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What Minecraft essentially still is.

fringe salmon
#

I have a Rubik's cube, we can have one person play with it, I can share it, but two people can't really use it at the same time, only in the sense you can play a game with one person on keyboard, one on mouse

keen urchin
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Yes. It's not an MMO where Mojang provides the servers, and everyone logs onto those

fringe salmon
#

but its not like we can both suddenly have our own rubiks cube because we but one

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that

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and even family sharing means two people at the same time cant play it

keen urchin
#

And also, you didn't more than one CD to join an online server with more than one person either

bleak pike
#

Mojang dont provide the service tho

keen urchin
#

Someone hosts a Civ II map? Wanted to join with the whole family? One CD.

bleak pike
#

They have always just allowed people to run servers using their games files under an EULA

fringe salmon
#

but you arent supposed to pay for a service with the second copy, you are supposed to pay for having two instances running at the same time

#

like if you and your wife want to both play minecraft singleplayer at the same time, it would also make sense both need to purchase a copy

keen urchin
#

But Minecraft does not restrict how many instances you run

fringe salmon
#

we're not arguing if its legal, possible or whatever, you said it's not fair you need to buy a second copy

bleak pike
#

ugh it does

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You can only have one token at a time and when someone logs in elseware

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it kicks you

fringe salmon
#

surely you can run offline minecraft on two pcs?

bleak pike
#

offline yes

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LAN etc no

keen urchin
#

LAN also

bleak pike
#

You cant join with the same profile on lan

keen urchin
#

But each can have their own

bleak pike
#

wot

keen urchin
#

You don't need to play with your login name

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You can use local names

fading spade
#

this is mental wtf

fringe salmon
#

if you think so, watch the segmented run of half life 1

novel umbra
#

or hl2 lol

fading spade
#

OwO

bleak pike
#

im trying to run

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2 minecraft instances

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it wont let me

#

due to -accessToken

fringe salmon
#

think I know the issue

#

it's you

#

🙂

bleak pike
fading spade
#

ant v dec

#

o no

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oh heck no

small comet
orchid prism
#

The weird symbol? 😄

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Oh wow.

fallow bronze
#

oh.. that is very annoying

fringe salmon
#

Wait did you get mongolian vowel separator-Ed rooKek

fringe salmon
#

oh man I just noticed the person I discussed BL3 crossplay with isn't in the discord(not this one) anymore, man I really wanted to rub in that I was right 6 months ago 😦

orchid prism
west cedar
#

talk about holding grudges

fringe salmon
#

nah I forgot about it until I saw it ingame today

#

but I knew I'd be right and the guy was really making it sound like I had no idea so I wanted to enjoy my deserved schadenfreude rooFeels

fringe salmon
#

Sure I get that, but it's new tech that will get cheaper and better and like RTX you need good games to push the ecosystem

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and you can play it just fine on a 450, yes still not nothing but you dont need the index

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and unlike heart sensors you use tech that is guaranteed to not end as a gimmick potentially

#

okay but eye tracking isn't really cheap to add yet and while it will over time bring better looks and lower min specs, it won't just magically do that by existing

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but its like RTX, next gen hardware has it (current gen too to a degree) but you dont instantly get the benefits etc.

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obviously not yearly, but to stick with the example, it's been two years and are there really any titles where you'd say RTX is fully fleshed out?

#

but even without it's pretty good right?

#

same will be the case for eyetracking imo

bleak pike
#

Anyone wanna loan me their headset :p

fringe salmon
#

or vrs rather

#

after all eye tracking has been on the market for a while, there is a custom bundle from HTC with a vive pro

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but no realy use for it in games yet aside from demos maybe

small comet
#

@flat frost its not like half life alyx is a main entry

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or anything majorly new

fringe salmon
#

uhh, im pretty sure alyx is a reason for many people to start vr

bleak pike
#

fure sure

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index sold out like hot cakes every time

small comet
#

not saying alyx is nothing but its not a main series game afaik so if u dont play it u wont miss out

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its prob like blue shift

fringe salmon
#

oh I see your point, but the issue is it's not like valve is releasing games every month so even a side story is a major thing

small comet
#

eh not too hyped for alyx and while i am getting an index its def not for alyx

fading spade
#

Tony in same sentence: Alex, Alyx

orchid prism
#

That image is so cherry picked 😄

#

She looks just fine without RTX on up close.

#

I'm at max settings 1440P - But without RTX because otherwise FPS tanks below 40FPS constantly.

#

It is VERY noticeable when you're used to 140 ish

fading spade
#

cries in gtx860m

small comet
#

way more hyped to finally play boneworks

orchid prism
#

Yeah... RTX looks really good in this game with the weird trans-dimensional effects. But even with a 9900K and a 2080 it tanks FPS so hard.

fringe salmon
#

boneworks is just half life vr-budget edition

bleak pike
#

Cries in Intel HD 630

fringe salmon
#

Q4

small comet
#

half life vr has way less features from what ive seen

fringe salmon
#

boneworks has one big issue, it's really easy to notice they had nobody on the team doing leveldesign/ux and such

#

best in slot?

#

ehh idk, never played arma or any of their games

#

so cant judge

#

that isn't really design as much as bad implementation/coding or so

bleak pike
#

Destiny 2, where a specifc point has a chance to kill you by just walking

small comet
#

not like arma would even need ui

small comet
#

not really

fringe salmon
#

how is a glitch bad design?

#

thats QA not noticing it or someone else messing up

small comet
#

i mean its supposed to be a simulation not an fps shooter like csgo

fading spade
#

🤔 what is a european UI?

west cedar
#

But arma doesn't have the mobile like screens to buy gems with a best value pack of 99€

#

Owait that's not just European

sleek gorge
#

War thunder UI is fine imo

#

Perhaps I'm biased because I really enjoy it, but I don't think it needs to be flashy

wheat kraken
#

just beat doom eternal

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all weapon upgrades
all armor upgrades
all collectables

fading spade
#

hold up

novel umbra
#

damn, is id tech 7 again good

#

hopefully it is easy to develop for

#

since id tech 6 was already pretty good

#

could make devs consider to switch over

fringe salmon
#

switch over? thats not an open engine you know

novel umbra
#

yea

#

if bethesda wants to they get it

#

and id tech 6 already performed VERY well

#

liek so well that denuvo was barely a problem at launch for most

#

well, worst case they just fuse id software in bethesda and then have it as a subsidiary

fringe salmon
#

yes, they made a deal for that, zenimax studios can use it, but the way you phrased it sounded like you were talking about something like unity/unreal

novel umbra
#

I mean it doesn't mean that devs could show interest in it

#

which could result in it being licensed

#

which would make sense considering that bethesda wants to get into publishing more and more

fringe salmon
#

sure but only offering it when you want to work with them means you'd need to sign before you did much in the game since you can't really trial an engine

#

would be possible but really awkward if it's only half open

novel umbra
#

they could do it like epic

#

and provide benefits in the licensing fees if you decide to publish with them

fringe salmon
#

open source the engine? why would they

#

you can use unreal without having having a contract really, you cant test or get used to id7 to see if it first your game

novel umbra
#

yea ik

fringe salmon
#

and you'd need to start making additions to the engine that other studios want but are of no use to yourself potentially

#

it works internally with limited studios, like ubisoft does with the sowdrop engine, but that would get clunky very fast if you open it up more

novel umbra
#

might be worth it in the long run

fringe salmon
#

potentially, but they'd have to fight in a field where they have basically no experience in, with unity/unreal/godot etc. dominating

#

even cry has issues keeping up and they've been part of it for a while

novel umbra
#

well cryengine basically never estabished

tough jay
#

Also the biggest selling point for the big engines right now is ease of use, not performance.

novel umbra
#

yea which is why I said "I hope it is easy to develop for"

fringe salmon
#

most likely yes, but only for the features the engine was designed for

novel umbra
#

yea

#

that being said

#

it could be that the development tools existed for a long time

#

and basically just grew over time

#

so it could be like the case with the gamebryo engine

#

although that clearly shows the problems

tough jay
#

Anyway I personally wouldn't mind if they go for an updated version of their current engine, considering how moddable it is and the tools they provide for modding.
Id tech's engine is not as much an rpg engine either. It would probably be a lot of work to adapt it to the requirements of an elder scrolls game.

That being said Gamebyro needs a serious revamp to be viable as well. I doubt bethesda is capable of doing that at it's current state

#

idtech 7 is an awesome engine though

#

Definetly.

novel umbra
#

too bad they messed up on the release

tough jay
#

It is pretty hard to sell optimiziation and stability as a focus to upper management.

novel umbra
#

and accidentally delivered the game drm free

tough jay
#

Bethesda can still develop a buggy game in any engine though

fringe salmon
#

it's more that it's hard to hire someone to do what only a handful of people can do in the world

novel umbra
#

I mean the previous doom sold a lot

#

and a lot of that probably is the game running extremely well

tough jay
#

I don't think its scarsity of people, It is just something that doesn't translate into money very well and requires quite a lot of manhours to do.
If a game is somewhat buggy and a bit less pretty / performance most of the time it is considered acceptable and preferable over an extra 6 -12 months of development

fringe salmon
#

no it most definitely is a lack of people who can do that

#

gearbox and ubisoft for example both have decently big teams that focus on performance only and you can definitely find performance issues in the games made by them

novel umbra
#

considering how ubisoft games perform I doubt it, even though I know it is true lol

#

and gearbox messed up how saving in bl3 works

#

and that is why it acted up so much in epic with syncing the cloud saves

fringe salmon
#

uhh that is a different topic but yeah

novel umbra
#

should also be part of optimizing, no?

#

when to save

fringe salmon
#

yesn't? the only issue I was aware of when people didn't understand how to use cloudsaves, what did they actually mess up on gearbox' side there?

#

but in general, the issue is not just that you need very special knowledge about software and hardware, you also need to be able to design a system that can run ontop of it, very performant but also not hard to use by the team

novel umbra
#

apparently gearbox ignored how to implement cloudsaves

#

and tried to do it however tehy felt like

#

which made them constantly out of sync

tough jay
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Performance is often not just a matter of a programmer coding something badly but rather a lack of QA during the process. if an artist plants to manny assets or to heavy assets in a scene there needs to be something done about that. If a programmer creates a big regression it needs to be called out and so on.
If that process fails performance will generally fail.
This is pretty much the same as failing cloud saves something a good QA deperatment should have found.

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This does not mean their QA is nessesarily bad, it may also be the process of getting things that are found fixed.

fringe salmon
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obviously those are the first steps any performance team will rely to other devs before working themselves, but there is a limit to how many assets you can tell them to remove before it becomes an empty scene lmao

orchid prism
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It runs on a toaster. And looks good doing it.

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It runs great 😛

fringe salmon
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rpd?

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oh idk

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why do you even want to play a game via remote dektop lmao

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given its a different engine and not just using a different api for rendering, theres a ton of random possibilities

small comet
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ill tsay by my words... not a necessary entry for half life and a mere side story

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all the tech shown in the game world is way way more advanced than in hl2

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so setting this 5 years before hl2 makes almost no sense

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it would mean the hl universe devolved in 5 years

orchid prism
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That's the eternal problem with narratives 😄

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Just look at Deus Ex. Even though the newer games are set before the first one, they feel more advanced.

small comet
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but with valve id espect some continuity

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its not like people play half life for cool looking guns or high tech hacking tools (which also looks way different from alyxs tool in hl2)

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i think most people actually played half life for the story and puzzles

bronze niche
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cough star wars technology

small comet
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for me its kinda disappointing tbh

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imo just a game to sell the index and show how cool vr is

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dont get me wrong its not a shit game but its also not a main series half life game imo

fringe salmon
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I dont think anyone ever said that

bleak pike
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I’m sad I won’t be able to play it till next yet

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Year

fringe salmon
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eh I think pimax is a bit beyond that step by now

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though I do wish we'd have any pimax at work just so I can test them to get a feel

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eh, higher refresh model would be better than the x

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imo

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im pretty sure the 8kx is not the one with the widest fov

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no I mean from the pimax options its not the one

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oh nvm they are mostly the same, was mixing up fov with hz

wheat kraken
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Yeah but shit dude I own an index and that fucker is nice

bleak pike
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I wanna play Animal Crossing: New Horizons lol

small comet
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guess what

orchid prism
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Same... but hacked Switch. 😦

small comet
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can still play acnh

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just not online

orchid prism
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I mean that's half the enjoyment.

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But...

Step 1 : Download the game, DLC and updates.
Step 2 : Struggle for hours trying to get NSP files to transfer and install properly (Not to worry - I'll poke your brain about it at some point. 😄 )

small comet
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i could give u my private shop theoretically

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u could just use tinfoil then

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wait no u couldnt nvm me

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am dumb

orchid prism
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Tried to use NUT. Failed - Then the kind folks over at HGB told me... yeah not without SXOS. Ya dumb 😄

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... fair

small comet
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nut works without sx license

orchid prism
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I'll PM you later. They said otherwise - And Nut wouldn't transfer. Not sure I have the right files anyhow. But making dinner 🙂

small comet
orchid prism
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Showoff.

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😄

small comet
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me having spend a conciderable amount of ingame money on switches

hollow sphinx
orchid prism
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SPIDERS FOR EVERYONE

bleak pike
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I legit cant play Destiny 2 because of steams maintenance, what the actual fuck.

orchid prism
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I mean... It's an online only game. Already had DRM. This is just a service outage - Planned too 😄

fringe salmon
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yeah, a consistent one that you can very easily plan around

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yeah I cant remember when/if steam maintenance was on a different day/time

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I just remember forgetting it when we played civ5 multiplayer all week and forgot it was tuesday, but realized that when the connection was suddenly gone lmao

bleak pike
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its more i need to be connected to steam to play d2, this was a recent change -_-

fading spade
small comet
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why does it sound like a sex game

fading spade
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?

ripe tendon
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Not played it but read about it abit ago. Seems pretty relaxed from what I gather. Maybe a little boring?

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Neat, imo though

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If it were a sex game it would be called "Why is it over already?" or "That was it?"

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Maybe I'm reaching into personal experiences for those though

bleak pike
orchid prism
fringe salmon
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erm we already know who that publisher is

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in fact 3 dev teams signed a publisher deal

orchid prism
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Hoping for Control 2.

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The premise was awesome - It just needed more polish and a better narrative.

fringe salmon
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and with the amazing deal epic if offering the games should get nice polish as well be just like the devs want it

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if they continue to use fortnite money for this, I start hoping fortnite will stay this popular for years to come

small comet
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like "first game where u can thank the busdriver"

fringe salmon
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yea a lot of new or optimized tech in UE4 is based on what fortnite wants

bleak pike
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Anyone wanna be my cod warzone thirdy

orchid prism
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Sorry - No Royales for me 😄

fringe salmon
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Man now I remember the royal jelly fight in a game I played ages ago lol why Tino

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Was a Good time

bleak pike
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i dont play royal jelly

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i play plunder

sleek gorge
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Oh please don't remaster Alan wake and put it on the epic store

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I will cry

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That's my favourite dang game

fading spade
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🤔 so that means potentially sims 4 on Linux?

eternal basin
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@fading spade LAAAAAAAAAANAAAAAAAAAA

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if I wanted to stalk you.... which Minecraft server would you be using?

fading spade
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hivemc

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:PPP

eternal basin
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whassat?

fading spade
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minegame server xd

eternal basin
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well jeeeze

fading spade
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xd

eternal basin
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?

fading spade
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yup

fading spade
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Oh no

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I hate that

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So much

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I can't see the ps5 being less than $500

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Or the Xbox series x

west cedar
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I can't see them being

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ryzen 4000 finna release by the year 4000

fading spade
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I can't wait to get a computer with actually good hardware inside it

west cedar
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speaking of which, time to pull the trigger on upgrading to a 5700 xt

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how is that okay when it's literally the best one available from a price/performance ratio ?

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it beats the rtx 2070 and is almost equal to the 2070 super

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depending on the game it even beats the 2070 super

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we're talking 350€ for a 5700XT (MSI evoke rev 2) vs 535€ for the cheapest 2070 Super (KFA2)

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RDNA2 isn't gonna magically lower costs of the 5700 XT that much

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RDNA2 will have higher costs

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i'm not one to put 500€ on a gpu

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why tho ?

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also my gpu is dead, waiting for (at best) january 2021 isn't an option

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well right now there's nothing remotely even better on the market

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except for the 2080 memes

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why though?

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I mean what's the point in buying the highest end thing

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if you buy an RTX 2070 now, surely it'll be pretty much the same as buying an RTX 3060 next year

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except cheaper cause nVidia keeps ripping people off

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you said "I wouldn't suggest anyone get a 20 series card"

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D;

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anyone

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if someone had a 1080p60 monitor for example

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that's the silliest argument ever

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by that logic once the 3000 series comes out, you'd switch to a "just wait for the 4000 series right around the corner"

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even though nowadays something like a GTX 1070 or 1080/Ti is more sought after than an RTX 2060 or 2070

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well look at the RX580

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when did it come out ?

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still one of the best selling cards

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because it perfectly suits the needs of most gamers, which are still on 1080p60

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and it's dirt cheap

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people are still rocking their vegas

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I don't get the consumerism, why change for the newest model when it's literally the same perfs as the next year's model in a slightly lower class

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yes it is?

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prices are going down on the 5000 series

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when the 6000 or whatever series comes out it'll be more expensive

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for exactly the same specs

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consumerism is also buying an RTX 2060 in a year for 800€ instead of buying an equally perfoming RTX 2070 now for 600€

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okay I give up

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we're getting nowhere fast

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why the hell would I do that?

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so that I have to replace it next year cause it's barely enough for 1080p ?

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to save 75 euros?

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I mean if you'd at least said "get a 5700 and flash it", then sure

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the 5700 xt is cheap

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350€

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well technically it's 300€ but that's for the meme models like the thicc and the asus tuf with their non existent cooling that causes them to bsod

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a good 5500 would cost 275 ish

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well that's the price of the sapphire 5500 xt pulse actually

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owait nvm it's the nitro+, the pulse is cheaper

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260

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idk but the nitro+ is by definition alwass higher clocked and much cooler

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I'm not planning on buying a 5500xt tho