should I give diablo 3 another chance?
#🎮│game
novel umbra
only played it once on ps4 at a mates house
and already knew about poe at that point
which kinda ruined the game for me
diablo 4 gameplay looked pretty sluggish in what they showed
fringe salmon
I played it for weeks on release so idk how its now
for some the movement is much better on console, if you dont like the whole clickspamming for both movement and attacking
novel umbra
I played poe a lot
so I have no problem with clicking a lot
but movement seems very slow
or rather in general the game seems slow, if it is anything like diablo 4
although apparently they got inspired a lot by diablo 3 combat
well
nvm
combat seems pretty slow
fallow bronze
Im not particularly fond of the color grading on outer worlds
orchid prism
I like it.
trim rock
I'd love to try it properly too bad i have no friends ecks deee
bleak pike
use the gtfo discord
trim rock
Am lazy and preferably want players who haven't already been in
bleak pike
already been in?
trim rock
AKA I want other first timers not those who already know how to play
trim rock
probably
I just went LFGing there and obviously got players who knew everything it was 0 fun
bleak pike
Aww
bleak pike
bleak pike
Jesus Christ it’s silent hill outside
keen urchin
Diablo 4, that Minecraft ARPG, Grim Dawn, the new Torchlight
Which of those are gonna be good?
fallow bronze
im actually looking forward to playing minecraft arpg with my wife...
keen urchin
Same same
bleak pike
sure this on the d2 discord
Speaking of which there isn;t a single channel you can type in
novel umbra
diablo 4 is always online
lol
and apparently an mmorpg
with a similar structure to PoE
willow quiver
well what did you expect?
anything else would be diablo 3.1.1 with a graphics upgrade
weak cypress
The same could be said of all of Diablo after 1.
willow quiver
well i don't believe that would fly in 2020
weak cypress
Why, it's working well enough for CoD.
novel umbra
diablo 2 changed hoe the game worked a lot
diablo 3 and 4 are just very sluggish
otherwise I might have given 3 a fair try now
weak cypress
3 also changed a lot, maybe not quite as much on PC.
small comet
diablo4 looks really cool
and goes back to the d1/d2 roots
gameplay looked nice and snappy
imma def give it a shot
novel umbra
how was that snappy
it looked REALLY sluggish to me
I didn't really play diablo 3 though
small comet
what it was snappy and in combat really fluent
small comet
what i never had that in d3 either
fringe salmon
Yeah I only played for like a year or a bit more after release and there really wasn’t a lot of post fire delay
And I doubt they would add it later on
novel umbra
well
it had it in the trailer
or the guys that play are just really slow
and wait a secodn after using an ability to do the next one
fringe salmon
Well yeah ofc they do that in a trailer
To show everything clearly
I once had a build where I had to use AHK for my dmg combo because my fingers hurt hitting the keys too fast for a long time idk how much faster you want to go
small comet
d3 can be just as much of a spam fest
novel umbra
in PoE most skills don't have cooldowns
and even thsoe with have methods to gett rid of them
small comet
same for diablo
novel umbra
hmmmm
maybe i'll try out D3 this month
not sure
how many expansions does it have
and which are considered required?
small comet
none are considered required it has 2
RoS and RotN
RoS adds actual value and RotN adds the Necrocancer class
bleak pike
Damn ray tracing in the new cod is actually quite nice
the details http://mrpl.me/66582b_rfg5.png
novel umbra
ew
lenovo keyboard
what is that picture
3 different generations of general electonics design
small comet
and 1 old ass engine
novel umbra
lol
well
it still is qthe quake 3 engine
just heavily modified
but so is source 2 afaik
or at least source 1
small comet
source is not quake based
it was only ever mentioned to contain quake code
goldsrc is quake based tho
small comet
never heard of that
novel umbra
afaik
novel umbra
well
gsrc was heir previous one
whic was a quake modifications
and source is pretty similar
nimble pine
I thought it was from scratch but you're right it wasn't
Just minimal amounts of quake engine code remains
Source 2 was the rewrite
small comet
i dont think source counts as a "heavily modified quake engine"
cause the way they phrased it in interviews is "source uses some code of quake"
and yes ik this could mean anything but id lean towards saying source is already a custom engine and not a quake modification
novel umbra
I am sure the cod engien has underwent similar changes
doesn't justify that every signle one after 2 uses almost the same build
bleak pike
i will never understand why people buy just dance
like
You're paying $60 to dance alongside a game
every year
- dlc and songpacks
bleak pike
i dont understand that too
willow quiver
i think you get new songs, somewhat relevant to that year
and that certainly is more palpable than things like new team rosters
i dont quite imagine people buying one each year
it's a kid's game
eternal basin
With Rock Band it was new graphics, outfits, and songs
nimble pine
With just dance I think it's actually improving the image recognition as well
With each version
And thunderdome dlc kekeke
fading spade
hollow sphinx
@fading spade what pride flag is that
fading spade
Trans :DD
gaunt lance
rude
hollow sphinx
fukin darrel
hollow sphinx
saw that
hollow sphinx
XD
fading spade
O.o
gaunt lance
too late!
hollow sphinx
very naughty
gaunt lance
i didnt reply to lana but to you mr T3 haha
hollow sphinx
@fading spade do you have minecraft stocking socks you wear when you play that game?
gaunt lance
the fuck is wrong with you guys
gaunt lance
normal in your eyes
hollow sphinx
normal in the worlds eyes
fading spade
@hollow sphinx nu ;-;
hollow sphinx
awwww
fading spade
ikr
hollow sphinx
u need to make some
fading spade
make?
bleak pike
@gaunt lance behave youngling
fading spade
O.o nu
fading spade
it is telling me there is a new launcher version, idk how cause I have the beta version
this skin feature isnt in the stable launcher
fading spade
does it tell you there is new version?
bleak pike
Imagine playing minecraft vanilla 
sleek gorge
Outer worlds wiped my saves 
orchid prism
fading spade
:/
orchid prism
Good thing it only takes about 12-14 hours to beat 😄
fading spade
welp
sleek gorge
Still, makes replaying the parts I've done significantly less enjoyable than if I was just replaying it normally
fringe salmon
ah ye let me just quickly use the ahcked version of the microsoft store
novel umbra
@small comet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWyV0kIp5n4
as reference to what I mean with "insane amount of spells casted"
PoE allows that
small comet
yes similar things are doable in d3 already
except that theres no servers to crap their pants
novel umbra
it actually is pretty good in PoE
small comet
well
novel umbra
usually rarely causes issues
small comet
i have seen enough videos of poe sturggling
novel umbra
unless they change the game so summoners can summon like 50 entities
and that is an extreme example
PoE isn't well optimized, but I don;t expect any game to run well with that amount of stuff going on
novel umbra
I actually haven't seen a d3 spam build lol
fringe salmon
fringe salmon
I mean I couldnt really find a better video with a quick search
small comet
but there have been some builds to spam lasers etc in the past
altho most of them are useless
for the simple reason that at the point u can spam u pmuch one hit most mobs
novel umbra
fringe salmon
like that dude dies and its clearly not gear that allows really inhumanely low cooldowns
novel umbra
as soon as the enemies are on screen you teleport to them an dhit them
novel umbra
well
small comet
its not thats also why must d3 builds are focused on normal shit
novel umbra
the way of getting there is the fun part
fringe salmon
that and it's not like you one shot bosses with the same stuff
small comet
sure u get some builds like necrocancer
novel umbra
inb4 cast on death builds lol
a build which requires you to die to the boss to cast your buffed skills
ripe tendon
no instead the bosses 1 shot you and the game barely chugs along with everything on screen
fringe salmon
no not really
small comet
really glad d3 didnt end like poe endgame yet
novel umbra
well
at the time of their release PoE was just hard as balls
and had less synergies
fringe salmon
it's fairly different in many points which is good because it gives you an option to chose and not one clearly better game
novel umbra
my build in the last league for example could only deal damage with turrets
they vary a ton
novel umbra
not a top down action rpg though
ripe tendon
I wish they were capable of making decent classes
small comet
my main spite with poe is the high speed skill less endgame
wanna run a dungeon? well ur dps is way too high anyway so do whatever ull be fine
novel umbra
not really
PoE is still hard if your build isn't good
and I mean GOOD
you don't get strong for free in that game
small comet
u can have the best build in d3 and still suck balls even if u play good
novel umbra
if you don't know what you are doing you can very likely get stuck at a boss in the story
small comet
story
d3 is all about rifts
small comet
the first thing you do in diablo is start up adventure mode
novel umbra
you might not even finish the story though
small comet
and never touch the story
novel umbra
lol really
small comet
its not needed
novel umbra
PoE requires you to play thtough the story before you can really run maps
small comet
everything is level or power bound
novel umbra
or at least progress quite deeply into it
novel umbra
the devs know though that most players will never reach max level in one season, even if they tried
the last few levels from 90 to 100 take insanely long
small comet
d3 reaching lvl 70 is easy
novel umbra
my brother was DEEP in that game
and played like 16 hours a day at some point
and got like 1 level a day
at that point
the last 3 took almost a week
small comet
max d3 level is technically 10k
novel umbra
doesn't matter if there aren't skill points
novel umbra
can you distribute those?
small comet
yes
small comet
not really worth it imo
ripe tendon
Pick it up if it's super cheap
small comet
cause d4 will prob have the same
novel umbra
welp guess not then lol
ripe tendon
d4 will be another 2 years or so
novel umbra
d3 got moved for half a year lol
small comet
or did they announce the release date yet
ripe tendon
I think they said not anytime soon
novel umbra
and I won't buy a full priced game when I think that it might actually be very much indeed not my taste
ripe tendon
It's not even coming "Blizzard Soon"
novel umbra
is there any specia led or something
wehere I get the dlc wit hthe game
might be a lot cheaper that way
fringe salmon
idk check the store on battle net
ripe tendon
nah they cant do that or it'd maybe be worth the purchase
small comet
u just need d3 and RoS anyway
the battle chest has d3 and RoS
u could also get the necrocancer dlc but it only adds a class, more stash and more chest slots
ripe tendon
did Windows change something that it no longer saves game volume levels or is modern warfare just a piece of shit
small comet
yes
ripe tendon
sounds about right
small comet
since when is it abandonware
novel umbra
for long
small comet
the original or the GOG rebuild one
novel umbra
Iirc they even have source code for it public
The original
You can apply a patch
And it runs on w10
Even in 21:9
small comet
can just play d3 darkening of tristram
novel umbra
But that costs money
And old games have a certain charm
That modern ones don't have
small comet
well its free patch of d3 and has filters, 8direction lock and recreates 16dungeons from the d1 game
and a few bosses
just in d3
small comet
sure for an hour or so we can play
fringe salmon
weak
small comet
same yama
novel umbra
I gotta wake up at 6am
fringe salmon
just dont close eyes
novel umbra
Got my first day at school tomorrow
small comet
booo
novel umbra
Skipped half of the trainee stuff lol
Got a 3 month traineeship reduced by 17 months
small comet
so negative 14months
novel umbra
Exactly
novel umbra
apparently the RDR2 port is terrible
orchid prism
sleek gorge
yeah i'm glad they killed my hype a long time ago so i didn't waste money on it
fallow bronze
amd had better low fps percentages
wheat kraken
The overclocked 9900k is worse than the stock clock
fallow bronze
is it throttling?
trim rock
Now rerun the benchmarks with all the Meltdown & Spectre etc mitigations off
fallow bronze
9700k is super weird
wheat kraken
What really hurts is this is 1080p medium
fallow bronze
thats common practice right when cpu testing?
with mitigations is what they should be testing. Intel fucked up yo
fringe salmon
Engine issues, same as gtav but worse, that happens when you make an engine for consoles with hard FPS locks and then start porting it to pc without overhauling a lot
keen urchin
According to TPU, it just has excessive hardware requirements
But apparently it does show
What I miss, though, is that they only test with a 9900K. Why not benchmark other CPUs with those cards, too?
Controls apparently match the worst PC ports ever, lol
elder swallow
I heard it runs much better on ryzen
keen urchin
Like they forgot about it and someone spent half an hour on the last day adding it
Game seems to heavily favour AMD
Both CPU and GPU
elder swallow
Apparently has a bug on intel similar to gtav release
keen urchin
They put two people at work porting it as a cashgrab and dump thingy?
elder swallow
Took them a year. How to lose customers and influence stockholders, chapter 789: RDR2
nimble pine
afaik they test without mitigations? not sure
i know level1techs does
only on server cpus does it test with
Also rockstar has been a trash company for a while now
This failed port is expected
fringe salmon
The ports are basically running on an emulator which is why stability sucks and why random cpus/mobos don’t work
ripe tendon
Who benchmarks cpus and gpus without using top tier of the other? When people bench cpus they use top gpus and vice versa. I don't see anybody else who does it differently.
bleak pike
I heard read dead runs like shit but holy I didn’t know it was that bad
keen urchin
@ripe tendon The 3900X and the 9900K are both top tier. They're like within 2% of each other on average, but might perform quite differently in a specific game. Particularly 1% and 0.1% lows can differ a lot, depending on feature set, or which cache structure the game prefers, etc...
So, they should at least use these two. Maybe a 3950X once they're out
In case of RDR2, apparently every CPU without SMT has abhorrent stutter...
And in case of CPU benchmarks, use at least one card of each vendor. Some combinations might not play well together
ripe tendon
I don't know what you're talking about. I meant when they test cpus they always use the best gpu and when they test gpus they use the best cpu. It's always been like that
You said why not bench mark other cpus with those cards too. That's not how they do benchmarks
they do best case scenario to show somethings full capabilities
fringe salmon
If you show gpu benchmarks you use your best cpu and vice versa, no point in addition more charts showing the same, since you can extrapolate everything. And in a case like this you just would make a cpu list with constant gpu to show the issues the game has
orchid prism
Also...different vendors? For GPUs? It's the same dang chip 😁
novel umbra
yea usually doesn't do a lot
only rare cases differ a lot
like the powercolor vega 56
as a positive one
or as a negative one the 5700XT msi evoke
fringe bay
Disappointed there's no Wooting 2 TKL yet. HALO is the only franchise on PC that would benefit from every aspect of analog--really wanted to buy one for Reach. I'm surprised Microsoft hasn't bought Wooting yet
novel umbra
You mean a wooting one?
Cause that is basically it
The wooting 2 is just a wooting 1 but fullsize
burnt badge
i think s/he means a lekker
novel umbra
Not sure
Didn't specify anything about lekker
And there also is no lekker board yet
At least not publically available, bit there might as well be a not publically available TKL lekker
Or 60% lekker
sleek gorge
Death stranding has got to be the most stressful walking sim I've ever played
It's fun though
I like that you have to pay attention where you're walking and how you're balanced
Makes crossing the terrain interesting
So far it's veeeery weird
To be expected with kojima but still
I mean ignoring the larger world and its goingson, the area you're in (at least as far as I've got) is so beautiful
It's a real nice looking game
trim rock
Please no spoilerino I'm waiting to get it on PC
orchid prism
sleek gorge
Out on PC next summer
I however was too curious so I've dusted off my PS4. Although I have to actually look at the controller when I play as I've never got used to using the PlayStation
The last time I used it was over a year ago
And before that, it was like 15+ years
I've barely used playstation controllers in my life
ripe tendon
xbox and ps4 controllers are eternally mapped in my braind
I dont know if I could ever forget their buttons
sleek gorge
Never been my thing, get my R buttons mixed up for example
Or whatever the buttons beside the track pad are
Also square and circle, but never X and triangle
orchid prism
I grew up on the PS1, and I can still forget keybinds in games 😄
orchid prism
Because Sony pays
ripe tendon
then why ask why if you dont care if the reason is valid lol
small comet
sony hopes u buy a ps4 for it
orchid prism
Exclusivity is always about a platform owner being willing to pay enough to make anyone go "Yeah... okay. That should cover the potential losses shortterm, and give us time to do better ports and reap more money later"
ripe tendon
100% about the money every time
orchid prism
As an outisider I can see the rationale. As a gamer I stopped caring. I still haven't played or seen anything Red Dead 2 related. Waiting for the PC release to be sensible investment worthy.
ripe tendon
I'm at a point where I 100% don't care about exclusives. If I want it I'll get it on w/e platform it's on
ripe tendon
Getting a ps4 is an option too soo
sleek gorge
To be fair, Sony funded the game
So the fact it's coming to PC at all is a blessing
I think kojima has said all his future games will be on PC, and I suppose this was the only way to make it happen
keen urchin
Urgh, why do most RPGs have so poor difficulty curves?
Most of them have some sort of difficulty peak in the middle of the game, and from there is continues to become progressively easier the closer you get to the end of the story...
I often quit them early, lol
Witcher 3
keen urchin
Was also reminded of like Gothic 2, TES 4, Nehrim, Kingdom's of Armalur (unfortunately never even made it to 50% in that one), Grandia 2 (see it as a story game, worth it for that alone), Borderlands/2/TPS (works somewhat in UVHM and OP modes, where you essentially only play to be able to farm gear required for the next mode)
Have a hard time thinking about ones that got it right
SantuaryRPG
Pixel Dungeon
fringe salmon
and if you count that as the same type of rpg as the others
fringe salmon
for me it and diablo are more of a hack n slay with rpg
timber timber
novel umbra
People still play that?
trim rock
Yeah, some do
fallow bronze
Outerworlds also has super easy combat
keen urchin
Was thinking about mentioning TL2
But I'm not sure what to think about ARPGs
If you become stronger, you just pull more enemies
Pace goes up, difficulty not so much?
fallow bronze
...tl2..... ...?
keen urchin
?
fallow bronze
wtf is tl2
keen urchin
Torchlight 2
novel umbra
Not really the case for poe, you either just kill everything outright or ignore it
bleak pike
fringe salmon
yes thats known since the announcement day?
fringe salmon
no we knew they would merge
bleak pike
Source? cos i dont remember at all being mentioned they will merge.
All they said was MP would be shared between both games.
fringe salmon
idk I read somewhere, didnt remember where as it seemed obvious to me
fringe salmon
its a new marketing trick for mtx
but it sounds better
it will sell more than them adding a hd texture pack and a new mode you can buy as an add on
well for one you know how much people like cosmetics so having new models etc. is something for them
but I would've probably bought it on release if the previous pve events in ow weren't shit
I've loved the pve mode in TF2 and would like more, but at least at release I don't see the value in ow2 pve
although people did say, you can buy it, and then invite friends who dont have ow2 to play with you, but I didn't check if that was true or not
orchid prism
OW2 happened, because Blizzard promised never to sell DLC for OW.
And here's your loophole.
fringe salmon
ah dont remember that
fringe salmon
ow 2 was leaked an known for months before that
the question was why and not why now
but even without HK we most likely would've heard about ow2 at this blizzcon
bleak pike
Prob
sleek gorge
What's this business with the outer world being 12 hours long? I'm at 11 hours rn and I feel like I'm not close to the end
Unless a lot happens really quickly and I finish it in another couple of hours, then I'll feel like a fool 
sleek gorge
@orchid prism care to explain?
orchid prism
Explain what?
sleek gorge
Idk, when the game killed my save you assured me the game was only 12 hours long so it wasn't a big loss
So now I'm wondering if I'm that bad with the combat that I'm inflating it immensely or what
Because I do suck at it, although that's probably down to not bothering with gear that much
orchid prism
The game is short.
But having bad gear or being less good with combat will drag it out. I beat it in just over twelve hours on my first go on normal, but I also invested into companion skills and s bit of science - both of which boost your damage tremendously.
I best the final boss in 30 seconds or so in a single life without using a single heal wape.
ripe tendon
It was kind of a neat game but I got bored fairly quickly.
orchid prism
It wasn't anything special gameplay wise. I dug the story and atmosphere though
novel umbra
I actually got contact to a guy that works at the EGS
Found him randomly in a discord
He says that their biggest problem is that release was very rushed
fringe salmon
Ye to me it seems like miscommunication on how fast certain stuff can be added or management taking it’s fine, just a bit later and people would’ve been less harsh since not literally everything would’ve been missing imo
If they would’ve released it now it would’ve been probably fine, but I know that’s not feasible from a business point
novel umbra
even now it lacks a ton of features
it has a lot to add and improve
until i'd finally consider it to be good
gog galaxy 2.0 will probably make that irrelevant though
fringe salmon
sure but cloud saves, offline mode, regional pricing and such are now there
aka most important features imo
novel umbra
fringe salmon
when you feel fit and want to smash some records on beat saber but you got a flu shot and are not supposed to exercise
small comet
just exercise anyway
fringe salmon
fringe salmon
I want to beat sabers but also not fuck up a vaccine 
sleek gorge
fringe salmon
look if the doc says dont do that I ain't doing it lol
small comet
thats the start of the game lol
small comet
so dont equip it
sleek gorge
It's not an item in that game
It's just a thing that happens
Which is why I hope it can be turned off
small comet
how do u know its not an item
sleek gorge
They've said
In previews and panels etc
Unless something has changed between then and now, it's a passive thing that happens to every pokemon in your party
small comet
iirc they only mentioned its not in the game
so either its added as a mechanic that every member gets xp anyway
or its not like that
small comet
the game is shit anyway
novel umbra
yup
fossil solar
I waiting for more mods
bleak pike
when you feel fit and want to smash some records on beat saber but you got a flu shot and are not supposed to exercise
When you have severe pain that causes you to walk and causes crippling depression to the point you dont wanna live, sell your VR headset then finally get a life changing operation which lets you walk and move again.
And then you have no headset anymore
@fringe salmon
hollow sphinx
;-;
weak cypress
So Ring Fit?
raw wren
Sao 
meager stump
burnt badge
exp share used to be an item in until gen 6 where it gives xp to the whole party
bleak pike
tbh PE engine is pretty good
Well this is just adorable haha https://youtu.be/WtcQl41oFQI
bleak pike
4OCKK0M7DUP4MGJF0OHSM9RS7O free BDO coupon for full access to the game if anyone wants it
fallow bronze
🚫
hollow sphinx
orchid prism
bleak pike
i know
small comet
40bucks for the entire collection on pc redone in 4k and all
bleak pike
Wow you can reach on its own, thats great for people who just want that
small comet
cant fucking wait
small comet
oh i thought its availabel rn as single games
free game pass for me
orchid prism
ripe tendon
Game pass is super cheap anyway. Neat to see they bundle it though
fossil solar
I still prefer owning the games individually but yeah it’s pretty convenient so far
round wraith
its basically a challenge of how many good/decent games i can play and complete in 3 months
keen urchin
SMACX is on sale on GOG ;o
hollow sphinx
This is why i dont come in first
trim rock
Blizzard left the chat after all those announcements
bleak pike
LOOOL
novel umbra
Poe2 is still in "early development" beta will apparently start in 2020, they didn't mention anything else about release
bleak pike
orchid prism
unique bane
keen urchin
UE3 vs UE4?
orchid prism
Or those are old alises for the game names while not set in stone.
keen urchin
BL and TPS also had Willowgame
I suppose they picked a different tree when they went UE4
bleak pike
unique bane
fringe salmon
someone's bot to acess the beat saber scoreboard profile pages was checking 160 times a second or more, and from an ip in the private address range 
lul
idk, idk
bleak pike
Absolute bargain https://store.steampowered.com/app/1090200/Destiny_2_Shadowkeep/
anyone playing D2 right now
get it
fringe salmon
steam sale starts in like 10 days
bleak pike
@fringe salmon And it will prob just be the same price
toxic hill
@fringe salmon so someone's hitting it internally?
fringe salmon
no, its someone using a bot from outside but no clue if just badly coded or malicious intent, most likely bad code
toxic hill
That's not how you get a private range IP externally...
fringe salmon
idk
he blocked it via user agent and its not an interal thing is all I know, he didn't post more about it
keen urchin
I'm gonna give up trying to understand how large the numbers in this game are
fringe salmon
WoW?
small comet
why not use something like grahams number
keen urchin
You can't actually work with it
How'd you store it? Display it?
small comet
psure it has more digits that you can store on a harddisk made out of all atoms in the universe
and u can work with it
but not if u try to calculate it completely
fringe salmon
start computing it, display the numbers you know, discard them after they are display and continue
small comet
thats usually how u deal with super large numbers
ripe tendon
Large maps in 7dtd take too long. 313 minutes, 44 seconds in total
ripe tendon
Wow that's pretty shitty
trim rock
Internet of Shit
bleak pike
Destiny 2 had 2.5m players yesterday... pretty damn healthy.
orchid prism
I honestly don't get what people see in it...or MMOs as a whole. I guess I just kind of outgrew the whole genre. 😦
Buuuut it might just be the setting as a whole. Never could get immersed.
bleak pike
I don’t really see it as an mmorpg to get immersed in personally
I just like the pve and pvp content
I like killing people
orchid prism
Bonus points for being a shooter without third person. Those are becoming rarer.
Minus points for how the classes are designed, and how ultimates force third person 😄
bleak pike
It makes sense some of them are third personal tho
orchid prism
That was a design choice though, not a requirement of the gameplay 😄
orchid prism
Plenty of first person melee games.
Aaanyway. Destiny 2 was interesting enough for a free playthrough of the vanilla campaign. That was all I needed out of it.
bleak pike
Fair enough
No one does and that’s why a lot of people play for 5 min then trash it lol
orchid prism
Destiny is kind of like a Halo seque game.
bleak pike
now you have
orchid prism
Except you have planets and questlines.
orchid prism
xD
bleak pike
Dont bring Halo into this
bleak pike
It means Mansen is not amused
novel umbra
@orchid prism most 3rd person shooters just feel terrible
and "indirect"
idk how else to describe it
it is what kills basically any ubisoft game and witcher 3 for me
bleak pike
I love third person
novel umbra
warframe did it well
bleak pike
Ye
novel umbra
most games don't
bleak pike
Get stompees 🤣
novel umbra
?
bleak pike
Boots that increase jump height
bleak pike
its not actually much less than WF
novel umbra
and are much faster
bleak pike
i know i play it
literal proof they could do it
movement would be pretty fine too
it would just be broken in pvp
novel umbra
I could see it work
novel umbra
if 3rd person is a viable option for a good shooter
orchid prism
Yeah.... I can't enjoy third person shooters anymore.
Ubisoft in particular seem to want it to be the norm though.
novel umbra
"stealth"
small comet
well officially its designed to be stealth
obviously you can just go in guns blazin
im only getting PD2 public "stealth" flashbacks
small comet
PD2 public "stealth" is just put on the best armor, take a nice shotgun without supressor and a minigun or smth
novel umbra
too bad you can just nuke enemies in the next room without seeing them
keen urchin
Damn, finally a tough boss in this game
Been stuck for like 2 hours now
Almost made it and then the game crashed, though
Can't help but wonder whether I'm just getting old and slow or enemy upscaling breaks this fight 🤔
I still manage, I guess
keen urchin
As much as I like a challenge, this boss is really poor design...
unique bane
@keen urchin play a harder game 😄 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq6ftMk21FA
keen urchin
Iris' Greatest Fear from Witcher 3
Damn boss has two skill that always oneshot you, even through both skills in the game that would normally prevent it
And you need twitch reflexes to avoid them
fringe salmon
I had to google that boss lmao totally forgot about it
Don’t think I ever experienced the insta kill stuff
keen urchin
Dunno
Undying doesn't work in that fight at all
And his charged attack breaks Quen and still oneshots me through it
fringe salmon
hrmm does freezing work? think I used blizzard bombs quite a bit
wait no I got the op freeze stuff in dlc 2, so there I was probably still using fire mostly
fringe salmon
uhh definitely not immune to fire
keen urchin
Igni staggers him a little, but does no damage
fringe salmon
opend a video to recall the fight and he did some dmg with fire, not much but not immune
keen urchin
Northern Wind did not freeze them at all
fringe salmon
are you triggering them all? you know you can fight them one by one?
keen urchin
No, I can't handle two
keen urchin
I made it
Just perfect blocking my way through
Couldn't find anything else that worked for me
fringe salmon
elder matrix
poggers
fringe salmon
It’s a story about alyx set as a prequel to hl2 of leaks are correct
hollow sphinx
so its half life 2.5
fringe salmon
1.5
hollow sphinx
i havent played half life
hushed iris
Lol “someone better port it for non vr” or you can just keep crying about it
It’s not like you have to buy a valve index (tho that will be the best headset to play it on most likely)
Vive is sold second hand for cheap now
And the rift s is only $400
fringe salmon
I just hope it’s not getting a port due to it being well made vor VR, we need some nice VR games that aren’t just the normal game with a different camera
fringe salmon
That was their physic „demo“ right? Ye something like that fleshed out would be nice
novel umbra
no
boneworks is a game
developed by stress level 0
thye made that duck hunt vr game
which was basically their demo for two handed guns in vr
fringe salmon
Oh I thought it was just a physic demo thing for the index knuckles, gotta take a look at that then
novel umbra
nah, they had the knuckles for a long time durign development
sleek gorge
Well, if anyone can make a really good VR game it's probably valve
Probably
If only because they've got the money to burn on a game without mass market appeal
trim rock
lol Artifact
willow quiver
Valve colaborating with pornhub I see
the story how g-man "plucked [Alyx]
from black mesa"
bleak pike
Someone said to me
does saber colors really matter that much to you?
YES, i spend time collecting different hilts, crystals etc
cos i love it
orchid prism
toxic hill
That's just a lava sword
meager crown
Interesting dildo design
bleak pike
@meager crown Well, it would deffo be a once in a lifetime experience thats for sure
fringe salmon
im so excited
it looks like it oculd genuinely be a really good vr game that pushes the market forward
also a higher chance we finally get the source 2 engine
trim rock
I mean we do already have it
fringe salmon
you know what I mean
trim rock
Yeah I don't have high hopes about getting the proper Source 2 SDK anytime soon still 🙂
fringe salmon
nah not an sdk, the original plan was to release the entire engine so others could use it
trim rock
That's what I meant
fringe salmon
and it would make sense to release it when your showcase is released too
novel umbra
dota 2 runs in source 2
the dev kit will likely release with the game
tbh
it doesn't look like a better game when it comes to VR implementation than boneworks
fringe salmon
the original statement was, once they are done porting csgo to source 2 they will release the engine, with similar pricing structure as unity/unreal have
idc about some dev kit
novel umbra
it doesn't even have a full body
bleak pike
oh reposty
i think im the only one that simply doesn't care
lol
THANKS YOUTUBE
AUTOPLAY DEATH STRANDING ENDING EXPLAINED
FU
fringe salmon
trim rock
VR is pretty cool tho
bleak pike
^
fringe salmon
so +- a bit of time depending on how much he knew before playing and how bad he is lmao
sleek gorge
Half Life 2 had the best design for him
I mean HL1 is kinda out of the running anyways unless you're a big fan of hard angles
orchid prism
Unpopular opinion : I found the whole lore silly and very poorly done. Never liked the whole G-Man aspect.
runs fleeing
fringe salmon
honestly, in hindsight it was obvious that the playable character would be alyx if its set in the same time
because all the hd mods and such all said they couldn't make a good looking hd version of her while keeping the style lmao
sleek gorge
G-Man is just an ex-machina to get characters out of situations, which you can argue is lazy writing
Also the vortuguants(?) too I suppose since they pull the same shit in HL2:EP1
fringe salmon
vortigaunts
willow quiver
hl1 was pretty wack tho
orchid prism
willow quiver
then why is indirect storytelling the biggest buzzword of hl1
fringe salmon
Story is nice imo, Physik was one of the unique points the showcased with hl2 (think gravity gun and such) and a similar thing will probably be coming with the be version
bleak pike
@orchid prism https://bungiestore.com/collections/jade-rabbit-collection/products/preorder-jade-rabbit-figure
orchid prism
The reference is lost on me
fringe salmon
https://i.gyazo.com/33cb0a246a970ba465353d5704489f52.png climbing ranks slowly but steadily 
my rank
that would be quite unfortunate given it's impossible to become gud without being healthy
fringe salmon
damn the BL3 raid stuff is nice, tried to go into it face first and got wiped, so far the difficulty is very nice and fair
ripe tendon
BL3 isn't doing free to play this weekend for PC. Just ps4 and XBO which I find odd
More importantly, Gog Galaxy doesn't let you import friends from other platforms and that's odder.
trim rock
Probably yet another feature missing from the EGS
elder swallow
Come play WoW and run Blackrock depths 50 times for your best in slot items
fringe salmon
Did you play after the update?
After the update that was Thursday evening?
Nah it was a full 2gb patch not a hotfix
Gave posses dedicated loot pools, added a raid, mayhem 4 difficulty and more
In your Library of it says update instead of play iirc I have it to autoupdate bl3 so not sure
Well they did tweak loot settings aswell but didn’t check how detailed it was
Oh I was mistaken, it was a patch And a hotfix lul
Hotfix you don’t really download and save, its reapplied to the game when you start so if you play offline it won’t override anything
Be it’s just saved in the ram
So it can be sent out faster if it just some small but critical thing instead of delivering a whole patch with a gb or more to download
Anyay I feel like the loot is pretty good now, you don’t get them too often imo and they are not nonexistent like in bl2
It’s not like every legendary is one you actually want to use too
I mean in borderlands it mostly just means they have a special effect that might make the gun great
Like the boring gun ist not what I use usually but in the new raid it was very helpful for example for one fight
Nah they are still just fine, hell im using a blue shotgun on lv 50 because it’s the best I can find
Granted it’s a special case, it’s a Torgue shotgun with high pellet count so you can stack the sticky explosions really well
bleak pike
I still haven’t finished it cos my friend is always busy
fringe salmon
Finish it on your own
You can still play together if the levels are not close with the coop system
bleak pike
I don’t enjoy it alone and we’ve always played borderlands story together
I’m just gonna most after I make his new desktop
fringe salmon
You what