whales are usually people who spend money on games cause they can
#🎮│game
small comet
fringe salmon
yea I'm not denying these people aren't part of it
but like if theres no mtx they buy the game 4 times for friends and spend way more
as a random example
not like they can't spend money otherwise
it's not like these business models would collapse if everyone who has a psychological issue would get help right now and stop spending
okay then you are ignoring the people who cant afford it monthly and are hurt by that system
yes they are
they are forced to pay to continue to play like the other group is forced to buy mitx
same logic
small comet
part of a gaming community
cant afford sub based game thats new and everyone plays
is now socially outcast since they cant take part in the game with their friends
fringe salmon
no?
small comet
its not
fringe salmon
because the same would work if fortnite is 5$ a month
fringe salmon
"its only 5$ and kids are bullied who cant buy it"
sentence could be about a cosmetic or a game sub the same way
small comet
the thing is psure this is more of a fortnite problem
i have never heard about smth like this in another game thats f2p and has cosmetics
like PoE
or smth like that
fringe salmon
also we already said f2p is a completely different thing so we excluded that did we not?
small comet
yes
lets say BDO
never heard of bullying cause someone didnt own some new cosmetic gear
fringe salmon
???
a) where did you get that from b) why do you think that happens with mtx but not monthly subs??
small comet
if thats psychologically taking advantage then so is every advertisement, brand name, product design and what not
draining thousands from them
cause monthly sub games still have mtx
win/win right
every big p2p game has mtx
cutting the p2p part and make it buy once would make 0 difference
its not
yes and mtx is the way to go for pay once play forever games
cause it takes the load of people who dont have the money to pay every month
and people who spend money everywhere anyway spend it there
fringe salmon
okay, I dont feel like its the games job to make sure you keep your medical issues in check? (no doesnt mean my opinion is "go and exploit people) and why does paying once for cosmetics or multiple times for months of playtime which ammounts to the same number make a difference?
but both do??
wait let me ask this
if you get a limit to how much you can spend on mtx as a person, put on you by the game would that be fine for you?
wait what that's literally what im saying
no like, your point is what I'm saying
you say people who cant afford it buy mtx bc exploit
but the same happens with montly subs
if anything there it would happen more
small comet
you cant buy mtx if you cant afford the mtx
same for monthly subs
so if u cant afford it u cant get exploited
cause you can not afford it
fringe salmon
okay so mtx is exploiting people who can afford it, monthly sub is exploting people who can't afford it, different kind of people and you really dislike the first but not the second case
fringe salmon
yes so you would like to see the peopel get exploited who buy it but cant really afford it over the people who can????
mtx: person who can afford it gets exploited and spends more then they want
monthly sub: person who cant afford it gets exploited and buys it
small comet
isnt it the same for mtx... they tell you fair and square what it costs and what you get
same for monthly subs
fringe salmon
okay but the result is the same, except with mtx its not a game itself so it's less likely someone who cant afford it buys it, whereas pressure to play it and pay is a lot higher? you dont call the second one an exploitation, but the result is the same?
it might not target the exact same people but I'd bet it's about the same result either case
just one you call exploited, one you blame for buying what they cant afford?
im not denying mtx are predatory in nature, I just see monthly subs as the same
which imo is worse since they aren;t optional to play the game
example: you can't really afford a game but it's only 5$ to try a month, so you do it even though you cant afford it, now you really want to play it again and pay 5$ again
or if you can afford it for years, then your situation changes, a mtx game you could continue to play
monthly subs would cost you money that you cant afford
but are pressured in by guilds or so etc.
or even by yourself
small comet
mtx is also just a shit financial decision... if you call mtx manipulating people then so is reallife constantly manipulating people
like i said
read mine again
people might buy an expensive brand phone just to have a better social standing
even tho its completely unnecessary and unaffordable for them
fringe salmon
I just feel like your argument why monthly isnt that bad can be applied to mtx and vice versa
small comet
same
the entire life of a psychologically challenged person is manipulation
everything they see manipulates them
so you cant say its the fault of mtx
even sub based games manipulate them
no its not
its the same evil
just that mtx is the lesser evil
fringe salmon
I'm saying that there is also some happening in monthly subs, and I'd say I prefer taking advantage of people who can afford it, over fucking over people who can't, but just not call it your fault
the same result happens, just to another group
small comet
i mixed it up
its literally mtx abuses one group of psychologically challenged people and sub based games exploits another
and i will wager that the group that sub based games exploit is way way larger
fringe salmon
to me it just sounds like "I feel bad for exploiting people who can afford it so I dont like mtx" vs "not my fault people who cant afford it have issues because the game needs a pricetag"
my argument is, that someone who cant afford it, is less likely to pay for cosmetic vs paying to play the game, or does that sound not logical?
not saying first case doesnt happen
you dont think its harder to resist to pay "just a bit" to play with friends, the game etc.
bleak pike
@vital wyvern mtx galore? Nah
Not at all
It's more consumer friendly that Warframe
I've never spent a single penny on mtx for d2
With the new update you get spoilt more than you already do
They already announced monitization
It's going to be the same + battle pass which is free and actually really fucking good both paid and free. Hell they are making it easier for you to fucking buy stuff from the market with jn game progress like now but more
They said the ever verse doesn't give them funding for new content, they still rely on people buying expansions
But tbf I can't predict the future
So we will see
Aye but they've done nothing but be honest since forsaken
So I have faith
But there's still a part of me with trust issue for sure
orchid prism
I played D2 for the story. Never been a fan of the Grundy MMO aspect.
Also it was free.
bleak pike
Destiny base game story is pretty weak if I'm honest
@orchid prism if you're interested in story you can do the first 2 expansions, they aren't super great at all but it's free 🤷
Just make sure to do transfer
In the next few yours
Hours
orchid prism
Already transferred when it was made possible. Just on case.
bleak pike
Good good
@vital wyvern you have to transfer your account to steam before oct1 to save your in game stuff
And I was talking to Mansen
bleak pike
no
fading spade
Does battlefield still need the browser to launch the game?
fringe salmon
yes you need origin for almost everything EA
fading spade
when I had BF4, you needed to login to the website when you lanch the game and then launch the game from the website
trim rock
No, it's been replaced by an ingame thing that's way worse in usability IMO
fading spade
bleak pike
small comet
ss13?
bleak pike
@sleek gorge destiny 1 is also down for 24 hours@
fading spade
its the same company for that NFS track pack :OO
orchid prism
Yup.
keen urchin
Oh hey, new AMD bundle includes BL3
Can't be selling too well if they now give it away for free, lol
fringe salmon
or maybe its because they did a deal which is why ryzen and rdna is shown on startup and not nvidia like previous bl titles?
im only surprised it wasn't around on launch already
keen urchin
Now AMD just needs to ramp up supply
Because these things fly off the shelves faster than they can make them
bleak pike
fossil solar
orchid prism
😂
bleak pike
"here's my Instagram"
small comet
actually a good idea tho
bleak pike
Dead game
small comet
love how cubeworld has mixed reviews
altho kinda get it
not much changed from the alpha/beta
keen urchin
That's what you get for not getting your feedback in
sleek gorge
I think you're setting yourself up for failure if you expected a wildlands sequel to not be a mess
But knowing current ubi strategy, they'll work on it for the next few years and it'll eventually be good
Well, ubi specifically has had it work recently
Theyre still updating underperforming games years later
So I have faith it'll be decent value in a few years
Pays to be patient with games these days
Rainbow six, for honor, wildlands
All still getting support, siege specifically bouncing back greatly
For the most part yes
keen urchin
You can't expect any game to ship finished any more
At the very least, half of the content is sold as the first year's worth of DLC
It shouldn't
People still gobble it up
Few games do it in a fair way
Even non-AAA titles
trim rock
Steam preloads are still wonderful I see, would probably be faster if I deleted the preload and redownloaded instead of letting it slooooooooowly decrypt (Destiny 2)
bleak pike
GAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
bleak pike
Going rather smooth
6th most played game and people still unpacking
83 FREAKING THOUSAND
it was 67k seconds ago
clearly 116k peeps do
trim rock
Finally decrypted time to sit in queue
bleak pike
175k
trim rock
welp it still has very questionable performance
And I went into the class menu and it immediately demanded that I should spend money
trim rock
Destiny 2
bleak pike
questionable performance? it runs like a dream
Ye but idk what you mean
about asking for money
trim rock
Yeah it doesn't, even the most basic benchmark I did when I last played was go to the farm, turn everything as low as possible and it was still 40 FPS lels
ripe tendon
just people checking back in to see if it's shit or not
bleak pike
What specs @trim rock
trim rock
i7 2600k 4.3 ghz, r9 fury, 24 gibibytes of very random memory, etccccc a bit old but should handle a simple game like this like a champ
ripe tendon
still solid as fuck considering it's age
trim rock
I disagree but whatevs
coral wigeon
trim rock
Yeah the vid you linked is crucible which I do get decent framerates in
Also if 750 is base power now why not crunch it down so it's 1 instead, just feels weird
trim rock
If only they'd tell me what they're doing to improve perf
bleak pike
idk whats going on mate
it shouldn't run as bad as you desc
even my 660 ran D2 on Low-Medium
trim rock
Other games run great!
trim rock
Guess I'll just try runnig this shit in Proton and get banned for it 😄
trim rock
Speaking of bad framerates Apex Legends is very fresh again with a brand new map and good grief that map tanks the framerate
bleak pike
some trolls out there
fucking hell
all these reviews are about getting dcded or some shit
OFC YOU WILL
ITS A F2P LAUNCH WITH 200K+ PEOPLE
REEEEEEEEEEE
🤦
bleak pike
exactly but you dont give a bad review cos you think another game is better
lots of the reviews are literal trolls
fallow bronze
Haha. Yes it is :p can still make ppl angry though
toxic hill
@bleak pike steam uses a "would you recommend this game or would you not?" Voting system. If a player thinks people should just play Warframe instead, that's a legit downvote.
And I don't care how many players you have for your AAA F2P, if they're getting DCed, someone didn't do their job
keen urchin
You can read it 'that's not about the game itself', or as 'doesn't stack up to the competition'
bleak pike
but but giving a game a bad review
cos you prefer another game
is not what makes the game bad
toxic hill
When I review games, half of the review is about the quality of the book and the other half is about how I liked it. If a prefer another game, that's potentially a statement on both.
toxic hill
I've seen significantly less useful reviews
trim rock
Perhaps I should write a negative review now just for the memes then
toxic hill
75% positive is bad, unless actual review bombing is taking place.
I feel like pleasant is just salty about reviews for a game he likes personally being bad
small comet
na how would u even think about it being a game he likes
molten fox
Fugl is looking kinda cool on steam, still early access
What's the deal with Wooting's relationship with that game?
small comet
it has the wooting sdk integrated thats it
so it natively supports wooting keyboards and not just directinput/xinput
not sure if it supports W2
gilded crow
@molten fox the new SDK isn’t supported yet. They helped a lot for us to better understand how to make a useful SDK.
It ended up in a total redesign 😄 and now it’s not compatible anymore. But thanks to the redesign, small changes will not influences compatibility anymore
undone lotus
i don't wanna download it again with my garbage dw speed ;/
orchid prism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyNpPWvw1eU
This is hilarious 😄
sleek gorge
I'm liking these cutesy games that are coming out
Ooblets(?), untitled goose game and now this
orchid prism
It's awesome 
bleak pike
Finally
orchid prism
People use galaxy? Like unironically?
fringe salmon
the new one yes
orchid prism
orchid prism
I uh... I use the start menu to launch games. 😅
bleak pike
i dont
orchid prism
I never have more than a handful of games installed at a time. A launcher is so beyond my needs 😄
bleak pike
ye its pretty shit
bleak pike
ive always been vocal about the d2 issue and linux
bleak pike
ive told you its the reason i dont use linux that much
flat gorge
¯_(ツ)_/¯
hollow sphinx
thats actualy stupid
the #1 way to get people to not play your game
um actually, we dont support your platform
weak cypress
Yea, but, you know, hackers, or whatever.
orchid prism
I totally get the D2 Devs. Such a pain to keep track of what happens emulated.
novel umbra
Well, you can still run it in a vm and do what you want to it
novel umbra
the german government started funding game companies
fading spade
ooooo
novel umbra
and ofc the developer of Autobahnpolizie-Simulator 3 gets 125k euros
fading spade
my gosh
novel umbra
the first game is a bomberman clone
over 100k
only 6 games total
I appreciate the effort though
if you didn't knwo it there are tons of police simulators
all are terrible in their own way
mostly related to bad physics, lazy design and jank
novel umbra
I am sure there exists a good ol german sim for that too
keen urchin
Should I buy this?
https://www.gog.com/game/the_witcher_3_wild_hunt_game_of_the_year_edition
Hmm, nope
Doesn't seem to include any DLC?
Wait, no, it does?
novel umbra
it does
wild hunt goty is with dlc
which you could've read yourself on the page you linked
orchid prism
Now that Red Dead 2 is finally coming to PC.
trim rock
Oh huh next month that's soon I expected at least another year
sleek gorge
Available everywhere bar steam until December
So not quite an epic exclusive. Yay?
But at this point I'm beyond caring acting finding out a mate has it on PS4, so I'll just borrow that
flat gorge
pretty much, don't have to deal with Social Club or limited save slots
orchid prism
😄
raw wren
I guess they were a little better on the planning this time then
Instead of a pulling a GTA V again with RDR2
fringe salmon
can't wait for the cheat menus to appear in rdr2 and people riding around in chrome horses
bleak pike
Yes
Please
Omg
@fringe salmon meh it's not that bad anymore, like it's not great but it isn't thst bad
fringe salmon
in gta? yes its still very bad
bleak pike
Every game I've played I ran into 2 lobbies with hackers
Tbh
In the last few months
fringe salmon
the casino update didn't fix anything, and when I uninstalled it before that it was terrible
flat gorge
I stopped caring. Get in lobby, become CEO, spawn Buzzard, fly to to air base, jack a jet, have fun.
bleak pike
xD
fringe salmon
Madness, our old friend!
just don't collect as much 
or get a team that can beat him fairly easy
meager stump
orchid prism
😄
hushed iris
i have 21k in my IRL friends group discord
orchid prism
Uh oh.
hushed iris
dang hahaha
bleak pike
rooklie numbers @orchid prism @hushed iris
orchid prism
Sorry - I try to keep my messages relevant and less shitposty 😛
fringe salmon
orchid prism
bleak pike
xD
i legit didn't read your message flem xD
so touche
What can i say
im proud of my shit posting xD
tbf tho if people stuck around from day one and were still active they would have the same as me
hushed iris
i only came here b/c of wooting two kickstarter, cause before that i didnt know wooting existed
trim rock
Hmmm is GeForce NOW bad or something, I remembered that I have it still so I tried Destiny 2 and those amazing cloud computers struggle only slightly less than my own computer 🤔
bleak pike
trim rock
And sometimes it plummets down to like 20 FPS for a few seconds not even my PC falls that low randomly like that
bleak pike
GeForce now is not super great in general if your connection is spotty or the server itself goes poop
which is why i dont use it anymore
fringe salmon
which is why I dont see stadia take off this or next year
trim rock
It's not the connection I'm literally looking at ingame framerates and those should never be affected by my connection (which is great now by the way, the streaming latency is almost almost unnoticeable now!)
bleak pike
then its geforce now servers being potato
i had this issue to many times i give up using it
trim rock
Probably, seems like others also have garbo framerates lately
trim rock
Hell actually the only thing those cloud computers handled better than my own was loadtimes 😄
trim rock
Yes but it doesn't matter, isn't the whole point of the service anyway that you can play all these amazing games at max graphics?
trim rock
Oh well, looking forward to maybe testing the Stadia version..
molten fox
They shoulda gone all in on the kids games
parent's would have bought the bundle for the games for their kids
heck I woulda bought it for those games for my future kids that I haven't even had yet
(I don't ever do the humble bundle normally)
ripe tendon
So it's $35 for Destiny 2 shadowkeep and another $25 for Forsaken? Are these actual decent expansions or are they bullshit like the base game was?
eternal basin
Yeah why the heck did they throw CoD in there
eternal basin
Really?
wheat kraken
yeah i don't know why but it was just not my kind of game
fading spade
Air sort of works in beta
mild venture
@everyone red dead 2 is coming to pc on november 5th
keen urchin
Epic exclusive for a month before being available on steam, but either way you gonna have to go dual launcher, because Rockstar tries to push theirs
It's a mess
Btw, I'm positively surprised about how well The Witcher 3 runs
Almost always 140 FPS, with all settings on Ultra/High
Sometimes small dips to like 120 or so, nothing bad though
fringe salmon
no need for epic, just pre order it earlier on the r* launcher 
trim rock
And get more preorder bonuses
mild venture
yes
hushed walrus
I got this keyboard so when I walk in RDR2 it can be cinematic instead of running everywhere
orchid prism
ripe tendon
./self_destruct
orchid prism
😂
bleak pike
Ye it removes char files based on the story
fading spade
it is ❤
small comet
ddlc is shite
fading spade
^^^^^
small comet
how about ure wrong
fringe salmon
It only became a thing because most people now don’t remember games already used to do these tricks but most of them were horror games or smaller
It’s not bad but also nothing super special
mild venture
fringe salmon
no need to ping everyone for such thing, also you cant use it anway
mild venture
I just did
fringe salmon
nope it doesnt ping people
mild venture
yes because there is someone called everyone
trail valve
yeah u need admin
fringe salmon
no he means there is someone with the name everyone who gets pinged
trail valve
poor dude
hushed iris
RIP, he asked for it
gaunt lance
orchid prism
I see the sun is still putting out high grade dribble. Even using fan made render suggestions 😂
sleek gorge
Apparently the royal family might be sueing the sun over wire tapping or something
So maybe they'll be gone soon :p
steep veldt
everyone
eternal basin
yeah... the username "everyone" should be disallowed at the app level
fading spade
Yeh....
hollow sphinx
U back?
burnt badge
hollow sphinx
XD
fading spade
I am as straight as that arrow
burnt badge
i drew that in the lightshot editor
fading spade
xd
flat gorge
God save us all the day it becomes one.
flat gorge
The Ancestor reprises his role as the condescending prick that started it all. This time he'll eat 2 whole thesaurus to make sure his vocab is even more pretentious.
sleek anvil
Does anyone wanna play overwatch with me
lone oasis
sure, i'll be home in 6 hours @sleek anvil
fringe salmon
Lower case S in esports @dense pond 
mild venture
@here RDR2 on sale today for pre order
orchid prism
eSpurts!
mild venture
I can
keen urchin
eSquirts
small comet
@keen urchin thats R18
sleek anvil
eNotActualSportsOmegaLuL
elder swallow
I trust certain devs enough to preorder
fringe salmon
keen urchin
Well, with RDR2 you know what you're getting
The game has been out for a year
The sad part is just that they re-release an old game at full price with overpriced upgrades
fringe salmon
I wouldnt call a pc port a re release
keen urchin
The sad part is just that they port an old game at full price with overpriced upgrades
fringe salmon
I would neither call it old nor call a port something that has no value
keen urchin
Maybe, but they could at least waive the PSN market fee or whatever and sell it a little bit cheaper
fringe salmon
ye what
novel umbra
can I disable those STUPID popups from the EGS?
I really don't care about free games on it
fringe salmon
yes just uncheck the notification box?
novel umbra
ah, thanks
I almost expected it to be missing that feature
doesn't even have an option to limit download rate
would be hell if I still lived at my old place with a 6600k
bleak pike
Surviving Mars is an awesome free game
weak cypress
You can close the Epic launcher when you're not using it.
orchid prism
I personally consider it a pretty good game, free or otherwise. Definitely not perfect though.
But most of my release issues have been fixed since then.
novel umbra
if I wanted to download at full speed and play any game at the same time i'd get horrible fps
since my cpu was busy with my fast internet
so limiting download speeds was required while playing a game
keen urchin
intel
orchid prism
keen urchin
Data processing/transfer was one of things hit hardest by the many security patches intel CPUs got
AMD pls hurry up
I want off this ride
keen urchin
@hollow sphinx Blizzard tried to remain apolitical and banned a player from an esports tournament when they started making political statements during an interview, since that was a breach of contract and also against their TOS.
Now the lefties try to twist it and say, that Blizzard acted against free speech, and took the opposing political stance by removing him
hollow sphinx
interesting
keen urchin
Although they never let stances from the opposite side pass, either
So, they have no ground for that argument
hollow sphinx
i was told the banned a player because they were part of the honkong protest
fringe salmon
you kinda miss where they fired the two casters who did the interview and had no control over it
keen urchin
Not because he was part of it
fringe salmon
or where they stop a broadcast when the collegiate team held a sign into the camera that showed free hong kong
keen urchin
But because he attended a Blizzard event and used it as a political stage
fringe salmon
I can guarantee you if he said he's against trump in the same way, nothing would've happend
keen urchin
Anyway, I read the interviewers were terminated because they handled the situation poorly
Can't comment on that, haven't seen the interview
fringe salmon
well they were chinese casters who probably didn't even think about this, and didn't want to say something to get in trouble
keen urchin
I think Blizzard was in the right to ban the player
Whether of not the interviewers breached their contracts with Blizzard I do not know, and that's up to Blizzard's discretion to handle
fringe salmon
casters in the overwatch contenders league aren't allowed to call the hong kong team by their name but have to use the HKA short for it
you can't make your battle net account name include stuff like "freeHK" or so, not everything is captured by the filter but most variants
keen urchin
That's against their TOS, so rightfully so
Afaik they've had that clause for many years
And the best thing anyone can do in that turmoil over there is remain neutral
fringe salmon
the taiwanese team is only ever referred to as "chinese taipei"
I'm not saying blizzard should condone chine publicly or anything like that
but maybe not use a rule like that, that doesn't need to be enforced and take away his price money, ban him and everything as if he cheated or is a criminal
the official response in chinese included "we will always respect and defend the pride of oru country" which is very much not a neutral stance
keen urchin
If they let this slip this time, they open themselves for a whole lot of trouble in the future
Better nip the bud
Well, I don't care to much either way
Let them have their quarrels
ripe tendon
keen urchin
Link pretty much explains nothing
How does it work? Virtual network adapters? Through steam servers?
Nothing that sharing an IP couldn't do since ... forever, though
ripe tendon
but having it supported through steam is nice versus needing something like Parsec as great as Parsec is
orchid prism
I imagine it works like this.
Player 1's video is streamed to Player 2
Player 2's inputs are sent to Player 1
I imagine they will be using Stadia style predictive movements
novel umbra
they probably improve steam streaming with stuff they learned with from inhome streaming
small comet
@fringe salmon i have to agree with xeanoa cause well blizzard acted according to their tos/contracts so i dont see a problem
orchid prism
Being legally right doesn't mean your customers agree.
It's been a big wakeup call how much China controls gaming companies.
novel umbra
yea
I don't think that is what he meant
I totally get why blizzard did it
sicne they wanna get big in the chinese mobile market
orchid prism
Oh I can see why they'd do it too - But Blizzard DOES have a big statue on their front porch that says "Every voice matters" and "think globally"
Even Blizzard employees boycotted this with a walkout.
sleek gorge
Their rule was vague enough and stated that it will be enforced at blizzards discretion, which has opened this up to accusations of Chinese appeasement
If it just said no political stuff, full stop then there's less wiggle-room for people who want to throw accusations at them
That said, they'd probably still get it either way given the subject matter
orchid prism
The timing was terrible - NBA just had a similar outrage event, and Blizzard just keeps making it worse to react to the situation.
fringe salmon
I don’t have an issue with them wanting to have a neutral position, the issue is they are not having a neutral position
sleek gorge
What is the neutral position tho? Allow him to say it with no comments from blizz? Allow him to say it, keep his winnings but release a statement saying politics should be kept out of hearthstone?
orchid prism
The Neutral response would be to say "We don't condone what he said, but we're also not going to punish him for free speech. And we'd prefer if he didn't put us on the spot like that again - this is the final warning to everyone else"
As I see it.
small comet
then every act after that is not neutral
cause they made an exception for a person
who breached the tos/contract
fringe salmon
The neutral act would be to not allow it, punish him not as much, don’t fire two casters and not take public stance to side with China
small comet
we dont know why the casters were fired tho
like have u seen official documents and/or statements about why they were fired? or is it this "internet hivemind" kind of deal with "they showed signs and cause of this connection they were fired but we actually dont know and just speculate why"
small comet
so they didnt handle it to their contract probably
cant imagine a caster with a contract that doesnt state to quickly diverge in case of political talk
cause usually any stream steers clear of political shit unless its a political stream
novel umbra
idk, maybe they lured him in the situations with question or something, not too sure
lone oasis
@keen urchin well, Blizzard allows anti HK and pro China shit in their name. so clearly they are happy taking it up their ass by some commies, actively complying with the supression 🙂
though not directly related to the banning of the player of the tournament, but in aftermath of it 🙂
@orchid prism NBA was even worse, their english version said he can have free speech, but not as a team manager...
in their chinese version they said they are actively condemning his actions and he will be sanctioned and blah blah blah
novel umbra
tbh
if they really invest as hard in the mobile market as expected they might disappear from the west in a couple years
willow quiver
this may sound a bit blasphemous,
but what controller should be more comfortable for that new Crash Bandicoot remake? xbox one or ps4
lone oasis
I would presume the ps4, as it was originally a ps game
weak cypress
Steam controller, probably. However, among those two, whichever one you prefer stick location.
willow quiver
i had a ps1 when it was relevant
but the ps controller changed so i have no preference/idea
weak cypress
Then I guess you can give the Wooting a try.
weak cypress
Movie theater far away?
willow quiver
like 6m away
ok more like 4
wooting while laying down with a long cable is not fun
(i want to speed run, remember the fun times)
weak cypress
Maybe a DS1 clone.
willow quiver
i have a functioning ds1
but i will probably have to mess with xinput
and the sticks are kind of old already
unless you mean the DS1 by Livid instruments
weak cypress
If you're going to play it on PC, you'll need some way to get a DS1 to play on the PC, or a DS1 clone that works on PC.
fading spade
hehe
ripe tendon
drop mobile and come to PC only already!
ripe tendon
half of us are
fading spade
yeh 😂
trim rock
Really don't get how people can play those kinds of games on phones, touchscreen controls are horrible
ripe tendon
I can't play any mobile games more than a couple hours
fading spade
I played one game and stopped
xd
this game ahaha
I just happened to record it to see how well the screen recorder works
trim rock
It did make me feel real good about myself slaughtering those bots and not dying a single time tho
fading spade
lel
bleak pike
It’s pretty damn fun
fading spade
yeh :DD
bleak pike
You can play on emu like pubg apparently
trim rock
Yeah I zink GameLoop is the unofficially official way of playing it on PC but I don't trust that software so haven't tried it
trim rock
I know
bleak pike
ye
ripe tendon
yeah but to have all the content its still $50+
ripe tendon
the new supers and gear part of the f2p?
cause 9 supers is a lot to lock being something that can be avoided. I read it forsaken has more content than shadowkeep too
bleak pike
Most
didn't say all
forsaken has more content so far
Im a little disappointed in SK
ripe tendon
@bleak pike can you do a full lfg for raids yet or still locked to clans/premades?
bleak pike
Huh? There’s plenty of LFG resources, if you mean matchmaking in raids? Nah it doesn’t exist.
ripe tendon
That's soooo fucking stupid
bleak pike
Not really
They aren’t something you could remotely do with ransoms
You have nightfalls for that
ripe tendon
I don't believe that at all lol
if mmo's can do it with randoms then destiny raids can definitely be done with randos
turbid mantle
I might be wrong with this, but Destiny 1 had MM for raids?
sleek gorge
I think D1 had matchmaking towards the end
Guides games anyway
And I think destiny 2 might as well, but it's in beta
A similar feature is beta anyway, might bit be for raids yet tho
ripe tendon
they've had guided games for raids since release or right after release
but it doesn't make much sense to not just let people queue up for it. I'm sure they have some reason but it's most likely a half-assed bungie reason
ripe tendon
but its good
flat gorge
Witcher 3's nice
keen urchin
It's eats my life away
ripe tendon
I do that with damn near every game
Not literally 10 hours but enough to get kinda into the story and then just completely lose interest entirely
elder swallow
Witcher 3 is a good time no regrets in full clapping that game and spending 150 hours taking it in
It starts slow
bleak pike
very very very veryyyyyyy slow
elder swallow
I expect cyberpunk to follow a similar slow start better get used to it
sleek anvil
is advertising own streams cool or forbidden?
https://www.twitch.tv/wagrp5
We are streaming Beatsaber with Song Request RN sorry if i am not allowedd to
small comet
no woot in stream wont watch
small comet
bad stream
sleek anvil
which one
sleek anvil
do it better then
small comet
dont have any vr headset cause useless for me
i wont buy 1k of hardware just for beatsaber and some vr porn
@sleek anvil so the one playing wants to play smth faster is what i heard?
i could literally just push him wiht like 280bpm
small comet
actually really mean of me to request that song
but well
brainpower sadly is very undercharted
nice try tho
fringe salmon
just request soulless 5
small comet
beatsaber has soulless?
fringe salmon
it has whatever people map
small comet
it exists lol
fringe salmon
if you want to have some extreme songs oyu can request and want people to fail let me know, just gotta take a look at my map folders lol
small comet
i mean the most extreme is speed of link
afaik
otheriwse id request soulless 4 cause it sounds better
fringe salmon
doubt it, thats not even a long song lmao
fringe salmon
theres this map, someone put a bounty on it earlier this year and it took people a month to beat it
what
what you mean with dump
thats just bad mapping if it doesnt fit
but you can put faster stuff in and have it be fun
small comet
i mean soulless was never overcharted
actually its usually undercharted
lol
same
if its worth it imma buy vr but rn its not worth for like 4 games
fringe salmon
get a quest and its less than half of that
the quest is a standalone, doesnt need a pc
like you could play outdoor with it
orchid prism
Did Flem just go full on music critic? 
bleak pike
@vital wyvern you can also use your pc for it now
fringe salmon
more like critic of fans mapping their own songs
you can use the quest with a pc or without
keen urchin
Do I want to sleep, or game more and blast more caffeine?
bleak pike
FFFFFFFF https://youtu.be/Vk0YEdxXHdM
ripe tendon
seems too guild heavy and pvp focused for me to bother
unique bane
@vital wyvern
i fucked up
didnt get the pre-order yesterday and today i tried to buy it but they remove payment options so I didnt
prolly buy tomorrow
my friend is already lvl 20 or something
ripe tendon
wait you gotta pay for it again?
unique bane
Try Paypal if u have
hrm
i complaiend to all their staff on their discord to give back out payment options
let me check
if they did
it's not odd APD, because the game was p2w before
ripe tendon
Yeah but it's still Trion so it's hard to say. Every mmo goes that route anymore it seems
unique bane
now its b2p and free of p2w
ripe tendon
for now
unique bane
if they add p2w later they lost all credibility
ripe tendon
Maybe I'll try it if I can ever get it cheap but I can't trust anything they say if p2w was a thing to begin with
unique bane
Yeah true
I dont trust them either so im not gonna spend more than 25 in any case
besides once Pantheon releases ill switch either way, cause thats my endgame
I never got to max level in Archeage so I can't say. Hopefully its fun
well I'm in the same boat as you, they had paysafecard yesterday as payment option.. Today that and Paypal (1 time purchase) instead of pre-approved payment plan, magically both and other options disappeared
ripe tendon
I'm just more into PvE content but who knows maybe it'll be fun
unique bane
I have some cash on paysafecard so would like to spend that first
APD, play Pantheon when it release
best PvE
ripe tendon
I'm a little skeptical of it as well
Not as skeptical as that cash grab Ashes but skeptical it'll be as good as they say
unique bane
its good to be skeptical
ripe tendon
I suspect it will. It seems super old school
unique bane
Pantheon has 0.5s global cooldown
its not 2 sec gcd like ffxiv, wow etc
you're rather combat resource capped
it felt pretty good to me
melee dont have casts nor ranged, only spellcasters and healers have cast times. Some spells have cast times, some are instant. Some root you (biggest AoE skills, meteor shower) some spells slow your run speed, some don't slow you at all, can cast while running
pretty much like Vanguard Saga of Heroes I played
It's a very fair system
ripe tendon
that's what I liked about Wildstar. So much movement. RIP Wildstar
unique bane
Biggest most powerful AoE's should root you since those give the highest reward if pulled off, so should have highest risk aswell.
Casters can kite so quad kiting etc
kk
What you have seen so far is placeholder animations. There's a new stream soon btw. Apparently they hired a new animator 1 year ago, and most animations are complete now. I'm hopeful
Yeah those two are too flashy for me
humh
you might consider a burst class if you want to feel the weight of the blow
yeah probably composed of many things.. animation sound etc
We roll on less populated eu server in Archeage btw
I'll ask my buddy tomorrow which it was if you wanna roll on same
my irl friend
just two of us playing.. He's a tank and I'm probably playing assassin/rogue kind
Ah 😛
sounds like good ole CC role
except the burst
anyways I'm off to sleep talk to you tmr
good night
unique bane
@vital wyvern u still up
damn
does CC not work either?
lol
can't log into glyph atm
for some reason
I think you might be able to resolve your issues if you contact their help but they could be swarmed with other requests
probably
some people fixed trheir issues by changing hidden glyph country to be same as their payment country
which is funny since glyph never had country to choose from. you just got autoed USA or whatever
so you gotta open ticket for it
yeah
or steaam I gues
or, unless they add more payment options, those which they took out... You can go to nearest R-kioski and buy paysafecard. That's easy
unique bane
its probably true lol
sleek gorge
Managed to get into it the other night after a 40 minute ish queue, only to have my labour regeneration not work so I couldn't do a lot of stuff
Hopefully it's fixed today so I can carry on
I applied the pack, just did nothing but I did notice they were working on it
Mates ran into a familiar face the other night
Yeah we're going to try and put our houses in the most annoying places possible
Take up as much space as possible
Yes
It's our mark on the world
People will look at our work and feel something
Rather than pass it by without a second thought
Absolutely
Basically the above reason, we want them to stand out
Even if its for the wrong reason
It's a big game full of thousands of people, why not stick out a little bit
That's what we want
Doesn't matter
We'll be those cunts
To them
Looks like they've opened up more servers so at least you don't have to queue anymore
Well, at least at this time
unique bane
@vital wyvern I caved in and bought with paypal
worked for me
except the loss of 25,99 😄
What I can do is try buying it with your details, if you want me to
are you using which browser? Its good idea to test chrome or firefox
it's not that I don't trust you, it's just that using same payment method for 2 accounts (they keep history of that)
;_;
weak cypress
Brink is a pretty solid single player game though.
orchid prism
Brink 😭
sleek gorge
lmao brink
fallow bronze
Played pubg mobile a couple of times, silo won once, hated the controls
orchid prism
😂
keen urchin
ripe tendon
hey Archeage nerds. Can you level solely on the ocean?
unique bane
@vital wyvern what lvl u at?
same.
Wanna grp up?
you'll have to explain me rolling for good stats
sure
orchid prism
ripe tendon
So according to gmail any email you use with them is the same regardless of how many .'s you use. So like A.Perfidious.Dane@gmail.com is the same as aperfidiousdane@gmail.com but Epic lets you register both as separate accounts. I wonder how many companies don't register that
small comet
who knows
but yes its true
also that it doesnt matter if u use @gmail.com or @googlemail.com
both literally do the same on googles services
ripe tendon
it's just weird. I think they changed that at some point didn't they? I started getting email for a dude with my name all of a sudden a while back
novel umbra
you can also use @googlemail.com
and have something like APerfidiousDane+entergooglepluscirclehere@gmail.com
fallow bronze
they'd be in violation of gdpr, but that is def a way to do that.
also a good way to see where sold emails come from
fallow bronze
exactly
novel umbra
but don't have to desubscribe from a newsletter
fallow bronze
better use a password manager to remember what you signed up with though 😉
ive unsubbed from so many things, its mostly noise.
Ive also started deleting most instead of archiving
toxic hill
wheat kraken
eh not bad
bleak pike
js
but this months monthly bundie is amazin
just waiting to get money for it
absolute steal
tough jay
considering the subscription is more then I pay for games on a montly basis right now. Probably not for me.
Hmm thinking about it it may allow me to play new things and the price isn't that bad. Sadly I just don't know what games are going to be in it
keen urchin
I really hard to find games nowadays where I feel I get my money's worth
So I keep buying older games when they are heavily discounted
fallow bronze
too many games too
keen urchin
I still don't understand...
What's great about Cyberpunk?
"Cyberpunk 2077 is an open-world, action-adventure story set in Night City, a megalopolis obsessed with power, glamour and body modification. You play as V, a mercenary outlaw going after a one-of-a-kind implant that is the key to immortality. You can customize your character’s cyberware, skillset and playstyle, and explore a vast city where the choices you make shape the story and the world around you. "
Coming from CDPR, I expect a good RPG that lacks a little polish. The setting is awful, though. Anything else to it?
fringe salmon
it's based on cyberpunk 2020 which apparently is a great pen&paper rpg
fringe salmon
only know them all as a name too
so I guess take a look at it if you want more details about the setting
keen urchin
Apparently they merely bought the trademark 'Cyberpunk'
fringe salmon
nah the guy who made it also was at their studios and worked on the design
keen urchin
Yeah, seen that now
Different pages, different information
There should be laws about spreading false information on the Internet 🤔
Anyway, I don't particularly like the setting
Is has nothing going for it
Lacks the charm of Steampunk, the cool of Sci-Fi, the magic of fantasy
orchid prism
Cyberpunk is the basis of so many great works. Matrix, Akira, Blade Runner, Neuromancer et cetera.
hollow sphinx
ouch
ripe tendon
So Apex's Halloween gamemode is fucking terrible lol
ripe tendon
Fuckin Aye The Outer Worlds is on XGP. It's kinda of a killer deal. Well done Microsoft
novel umbra
XGP?
trim rock
Xbox game pass
ripe tendon
Not all games in the store are in the pass though
sleek gorge
Yeah I'll be grabbing the game pass is time for its release
Game pass is actually a really good deal for me, considering I'll likely power through a lot of the good titles in a month, then maybe get another month to finish them off
Not something going to keep long term, but it's decent for a short while