Ontop of that, their games arent even good.
#๐ฎโgame
distant ore
Its pretty objective to say their combat is awful
their engine is awful
the games always release with a myriad of bugs, and they rely on the community to fix them
a vast majority of the quests are generic fetchquests made by a computer
They hire the same 6 voice actors to do hundreds of characters
these are objective statements
subjective would be me also stating that the quests in skyrim that were hand made are also awful, save for a select few
Thats a lot of minuses to not a lot of pluses I can think of
thats all im saying
how is that cherrypicking
Ok but you said I was cherrypicking
so id like to know how those were cherrypicks lol
No, that wasnt the point of the conversation at the time
you said x was subjective, so I just named all the objective reasons why
The game isnt all negative
I can name some objective good things if youd like
but it wont meet the negative list
and anything else would be subjective
hence why i didnt name it
artstyle and all that is very subjective
A few objectively good things would be Modding support
although I think people give it too much credit
the creation kit is excellent though
im trying to think of more objective positives
The music is award-winning
but its just the same theme as the past 3 games with slight variation
I actually cant think of anything else
lol
unique bane
dont worry, Pantheon is coming
distant ore
kingdom come: deliverance
very rough around the edges
but extremely good core gameplay
Witcher 3?
Polished, fantasy, good core gameplay.
ripe tendon
hahaha more objective talk ๐
unique bane
pantheon is definitely RPG though, but open world mmorpg no instances ;p
ripe tendon
lol, just being stupid
turbid mantle
what was TIL again?
ripe tendon
Today I Learned
hollow sphinx
The more you know
lone oasis
nah, today he learned
upper creek
so what little I had from my beta of F76, I generally enjoyed it
speaking from a person who enjoyed F4 as well
bleak pike
i dont
ripe tendon
Seems to be you either like it or you don't. I've not seen to many in between on it
lone oasis
why?
lone oasis
ahhh
hollow sphinx
@tired raptor no it's not a
I don't have enough badges to level up
Have enough access points but I don't have the required badges and I'm nowhere near getting a gold badge for anything else
Maybe if I didn't recycle so many common Shields
I might have actually built on my engineer badge
But instead I focused on Guardian and recharger and trecker
hollow sphinx
I hate my life sometimes
tired raptor
Oh I'd didn't knew you needed badges to level up
hollow sphinx
After level 8 you need badges
ripe tendon
wheat kraken
neat
ripe tendon
Eh, the Wii had MadWorld
hollow sphinx
I'm not joking I can't tell if you think I'm joking or not
ripe tendon
I'm aware bmx xxx existed
bleak pike
Jesus... playing god of war atm on my ps4 and the cutscenes towards the end freezing constantly... ooft i hate consoles
pallid junco
in the good old days that was a benefit of the consoles
that the games are just running and you don't have to fiddle around
bleak pike
Finally completed God of Boy
bleak pike
remote play is so bad for me
ripe tendon
sucks bigtime from my experience
distant ore
FUCK YOU NIGHTMARE 3
bleak pike
no u
distant ore
EAT 20 DICKS YOU TERRIBLE BOSSFIGHT
Just beat nigtmare 3 in dmc1
had to vent
it sucks
also thats mean callum
sleek gorge
Like bloodborne, the best game on PS4 
wheat kraken
I've never played it but opinions are subjective
sleek gorge
Oh absolutely
Idk, I'm of the opinion that it does almost everything better than the other games in the series
Probably tied with 3
wheat kraken
I played a little of 3. Beat 1 more times than I can count. Never played Demon, 2, or blood
sleek gorge
I've beaten DS1 about 5 times, beaten DS2 7 times, beat DS3 4 times, beat BB 2 times and never finished Demon's
bleak pike
like god of war when you first start you chop down a tree int he menu and instantly into the game
its fucking great
wheat kraken
God of War has always been good at doing that. Shit I mean 3 did it
bleak pike
horizon is the same
i swear to god my ps4 is cursed
most videos i see are sonewhat stable 30fps
my ps4 nope
ripe tendon
Demon's Souls was the only one I stuck with long enough to beat. Looooved that game on release
sleek gorge
I guess going backwards hasn't helped me. Feels very clunky after playing BB for a while. Also that I have to use yet another console to play it
And that the only PS3 controller I have is a bit busted
ripe tendon
Compared to the others Demon's Souls is probably hard to get through. I got the special edition on release and it was awesome at that time
sleek gorge
I seem to remember it's relatively easy to emulate, so I might do that
I'd probably be more motivated to finish it then if I don't have to actually use my PS3
bleak pike
Horizon looks so nice
hollow sphinx
@tired raptor this is one way to get a level 7 portal all to yourself I guess
Sure it cost ada refractor.... But now is my faction
tired raptor
@hollow sphinx nice x)
distant ore
I'm of the opinion that it does almost everything better than the other games in the series
Probably tied with 3
where is my big laugh emote
You cant even do 70% of what you can do of other games
hollow sphinx
@tired raptor I could go and invert 40 portals and not give a shit
hollow sphinx
what do you think of the new scanner?
bleak pike
Wait what
orchid prism
hollow sphinx
"bad language" XDDDDDD
steep quest
I have played a few hours tetris effect during the weekend, one of the better PSVR games actually even if the VR is just surroundings.. I mostly got a second hand PS4 to play polybius with PSVR. It finally seems to be coming to steam soon but PSVR will have to do for now since I already bought it.
๐
bleak pike
https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/9vzr17/this_is_the_100_year_anniversary_of_the_end_of/
ripe tendon
next OW update requires a full redownload of the game, whoa
unique bane
why?
ripe tendon
bunch of changes to the client they can't just patch
"The number of back-end changes we're putting in is substantial enough that we can't just patch over the current content efficiently"
unique bane
that's weird, anything cool they adding?
ripe tendon
Not that I'm aware of. Haven't really looked into it. I guess the PS4 version improves load times and reduces hdd imprint
Ashe will probably come with it I imagine?
unique bane
alright, was hoping for something really cool, like dx12 or raw input or new heroes etc
ripe tendon
Maybe we could get native analog ๐ฎ
ripe tendon
Watchin OW's animated shorts just makes me want their version of Borderlands.
bleak pike
@ripe tendon I didn't know I wanted that till now
I'm hoping they'll make a movie one day xD
ripe tendon
imo the OW world would be perfect for that type of game
brisk ether
I see that kingdom hearts, you are a man of culture
bleak pike
exited for the new one
ripe tendon
January 
ripe tendon
That feeling when you forget to cancel a pre-order on Amazon then get the email that it shipped 
Also, that's fucking handy @dense pond
bleak pike
@ripe tendon fucking ouch, fallout 76?
ripe tendon
got it for like 42. Not great but better than 60
orchid prism
ripe tendon
I don't do $60 games anymore, ewie
bleak pike
Ugh I want a ps4 pro but don't want to buy one
orchid prism
Trade up time 
ripe tendon
wait, he's refunding a VR set, right? ezpz
bleak pike
Fuck dat
That money is being given to my sister or mum so I don't spend it
Not refunding just because I don't like vr
sleek gorge
I'm trying to but RDR2 but it's too damn expensive
bleak pike
Most likely I'll rebuy it or buy the rev 2 oculus
sleek gorge
Console games are brutal
ripe tendon
yuuuup. Makes it hard to buy anything on console
ripe tendon
I mean if you dont shop around sure
if you pay that price for all games regardless of platform then ok but why do that on pc
sleek gorge
I'm looking on ebay rn, ยฃ35 seems to be the lowest but I'm holding out for sub ยฃ30
ripe tendon
even some console games have dealsnow even if the sources are...shady
we paid 35 usd from some random place on facebook but I've not seen it since
bleak pike
Lol that's one perk about consoles tho
sleek gorge
Yeah facebook marketplace might be a good place to look
sleek gorge
Steam library share my guy
bleak pike
Though I guess we have steam share
sleek gorge
Yep
bleak pike
But not for red dead
ripe tendon
DailySteals was the source we got it from. There was a catch though, the case is in spanish ๐
sleek gorge
Well yeah but we can blame rockstar for that
That's no bother to me, I have an Arabic copy of bloodborne
ripe tendon
hah
ripe tendon
still IGN though
sleek gorge
Also it was "new" but the box was smashed up, oh well
bleak pike
I was tempted to buy a broken ps4 Pro and fix it but after soldering my keyboard
I don't like soldering
sleek gorge
Idk how good a value proposition the Pro is
I guess a higher resolution is okay, but I'd rather games just looked better graphically
Which to be fair, some of them do but only marginally
bleak pike
I mean vs the one x it's a joke
bleak pike
But I wish I played god of war at even 50 fps
sleek gorge
Especially since Microsoft games go to PC anyway
bleak pike
I can't stress how horrible dipping to 20 fps is all the fucking time
It gave me a headache
bleak pike
I dealt with it just because it was an incredible game
sleek gorge
Unoptimised garbage
Yeah same with bloodborne
30fps was jarring to start with but I pushed through because I liked it so much
bleak pike
I replaced the thermal paste with expensive stuff too
Thinking it would help even a tiny bit
sleek gorge
At least on the Pro there were no dips like on the standard version
bleak pike
But like, I can't tell because I don't know the fps ree
The performance was so bad in god of war
That when I had a solid 30fps
If felt like 60 lmao
sleek gorge
Yep, that's the sad part
Somewhat related, replayed overwatch for the first in ages. Its the only game I can consistently get 144fps in and it's glorious
I finally get it
bleak pike
The amount of stutter too
Oh lord
During the final boss fight
I was constantly freezing lmao
sleek gorge
Oh yuck
bleak pike
Even during the cutscenes
One of the issues of jailbreaking
For God of war
Is all the updates
Are past 5.05
Whereas horizon zero dawn for example
I have all updates
And it runs alright
Which honestly so far feels like an overrated game
sleek gorge
Yep
It's decent but not amazing
Well, that's a bit unfair. I just don't care for consoles so it soured the experience. It's pretty good but not for me
ripe tendon
fuuuck me, punching only is a rough start in Fallout haha
ripe tendon
I wonder if that's in 76. Feels like it'd be a little broken
I'm only level 2 so the issue atm is damage ๐
orchid prism
Nope ๐ฆ
ripe tendon
gettin' real tired of your shit Nintendo
thin nacelle
well, i like their half baked TES franchise and fallouts (not 76) because of the modding community. The problem is they are behaving worse every year.
it's like every company now tries to compete with EA's scummy tactics.
ripe tendon
They're for profit. It's only a matter of time before for profits make that turn
ripe tendon
shhh
hollow sphinx
are ther any games i should get befor they go bye bye?
ripe tendon
if you got the storage then get em all
I'm so sad emuparadise took theirs down but I'm glad they did earlier rather than later
hollow sphinx
i have every game that i want tbh
(especialy since my game disks and cartrages have all died on me ๐ฆ)
violet vessel
@bleak pike As a surprise to nobody, they'll use their hacked up Gamebryo.
Did anybody really expect them to upgrade that?
At least Bethesda does publish interesting games
ripe tendon
The games have been dumbed down some anyway sadly. I like skyrims combat VS oblivion or morrowind but I miss the alchemy and stuff.
violet vessel
I miss the custom spells
ripe tendon
Morrowind had some crazy fun stuff
I just always hated the missing in melee combat because the skill wasn't high enough. Like come on man he's RIGHT THERE no way I miss him
orchid prism
I just want CDPR to finish Cyberpunk 2077, and then cooperate with Paradox about making a PROPER vampire RPG game
lone oasis
Mansen, stop sniffing glue
orchid prism
ripe tendon
bleak pike
Oh no
ripe tendon
It lives.
bleak pike
But it died for a reason
nocturne rose
I live I die I live again
lone sequoia
lol
bleak pike
ripe tendon
Looks like I'll have my work cut out for my boxing glove build ๐
bleak pike
Ye
its a noce game
was leaked a whole ago
while
Wait
its not on the game pass
lame
bleak pike
tacit rose
True, it's why I stopped playing it, was super buggy XD
bleak pike
Horizon zero dawn is such a huge disappointment
frail orbit
hmm
you know what would be cool?
a best-of list for games that work best with a Wooting
bleak pike
@frail orbit #โโfaq
frail orbit
i know there's the community list but it's unfortunately not very extensive ๐ฆ
i'm going to extend it a bit with some of the games i have
hollow sphinx
rip
frail orbit
we held against Enemy today btw @bleak pike
bleak pike
Thats nothing to brag about
And LUL
Did you know guilds are paying people in Gamez
to help win sieges
frail orbit
the top 3 are in flux atm
bleak pike
in official
frail orbit
Enemy are definitely below us and Sov
bleak pike
Ye but being the top in the server atm
aint nothing
majority of hardcore peeps aren't even around
lol
bleak pike
Unknown?
frail orbit
definition of hardcore is still being around
soon as someone isn't around anymore, they're not hardcore enough 
bleak pike
fine the "vets"
bleak pike
I did a guild war
the other day
t3
first time having fun in a long time
on Gamez
Server is fair
frail orbit
how alive is the nw/siege scene?
bleak pike
You can only EPeen with accesories
pretty decent
its my first few days bothering with them
not as big as the good olde days on official
A lot of peeps are probably gonna go crimsom
cos its going to be +15 at the start like official was
bleak pike
@frail orbit its to do with how the devs implement it
nothing to do with the wooting
ah i read the wooting is fuckery
lol
lone sequoia
shortcuts can make stuff like that happen
if that's what it is
I noticed that with the gamecube controller, the joystick inputs reported by the controller are wonky
the one I had at least, went from 16-238
which is a weird range
because 255-16 isn't quite 238
it's really close, but I could see there being some issues
but why wouldn't they just do 0-255?
interference maybe?
the analog reading on the triggers went from 0-255
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
ripe tendon
Draw me like one of your French girls โค
orchid prism
ripe tendon
144 support on Fallout 76 it seems?
hollow sphinx
XD
bleak pike
Who needs RTX when you have this bad boy https://youtu.be/P2-3nWS2nUk (skip to 2 min)
robust sedge
anyone happen to have an artifact beta key? 
lone sequoia
I wish
lone sequoia
source 2 so no big surprise
bleak pike
hollow sphinx
XD
ripe tendon
Free game if you're subbed to their email newsletter https://www.humblebundle.com/store/outcast-second-contact
orchid prism
bleak pike
Anyone play Scam Citizen
hollow sphinx
@bleak pike i wish....
it looks sooooo gooooood
but......not even close to playable
bleak pike
It's free this week
hollow sphinx
to keep?
trim rock
Just free to test this week only
trim rock
You got nothing to lose except time!
I however put in the bare minimum way back in 2012 and feel like it's worth it, haven't put any more since
hollow sphinx
@trim rock and part of my soul when i see the game of what i dreamed of in a broken and incomplete state
fossil solar
New mouse is great
fossil solar
Yes itโs wireless
Itโs 2018
Itโs gotta have leds and rgbs
But Iโve turned them off
obsidian monolith
it will also be my next mouse, so far the G900 still works flawless
the batterylife dropped slightly, but i can't think of going back to wired
it feels damn wrong
bleak pike
@tacit rose pretty fucking epic tho https://youtu.be/W-lwHrw_914
steep quest
I recetly got a g703 because the cat chewed off the chord to my old Logitech mx-something mouse.. I just got the one which looked most like the old one but without a chord, I like the optional chord though.
small comet
watch out so the cat doesnt chew on the wireless cord
hollow sphinx
sleek gorge
Played SC yesterday, it's fairly messy
The amount of times I clipped through an object and died was ridiculous
Also once died walking down stairs
And jumping. I jumped and that caused me to die
sleek gorge
yep, had that happen too
small comet
apparently
a 2080ti cant run skyrim on anything but low
doesnt even qualify as video hardware
wheat kraken
haha
bleak pike
@wheat kraken haha go play halo 1
wheat kraken
haha buy me an xbox and i might
robust sedge
which one do you have?
fossil solar
Trackball is whack imo
wheat kraken
it's my favourite
bleak pike
Red Dead 2 Online looks so fun
ripe tendon
is it basically gta online?
ripe tendon
decent coop stuff? because heists got old as fuck fast
wheat kraken
yeah. I'm sitting in GTA online with 969mil.
the new jetbike feels slow and nasty. Not as fun as the old one. All the super criminal enterprise shit sucks. I think the best is the nightclub thing because it's honestly the low end of criminal shit.
I mean... The fucking orbital cannon just screams something from Evil Genius
bleak pike
im kinda hoping for raid like content
fossil solar
GTA Online huge grindfest
The game is pretty shit if youโre broke
So you just go around hoping some modder gives you money
young crow
doubt, you get banned for dropping money
or picking up the dropped money
got myself 500mil and the game is finally enjoyable
@wheat kraken you could access the "new jetbike" a while ago using cheats, just sayin :)
lone oasis
@young crow every other time I play online, someone is dropping money :p
meager crown
I've been grinding GTAO since pc release, gotta say if one kept up with money making content throughout updates, endgame content is not that expensive
Also gotta say recent content can and should be considered endgame
bleak pike
I'm almost tempted to update my PS4
robust ridge
Star Citizen has a feature to add analogic walking for any keyboard. When you walk you adjust your speed with the mouse wheel. I thought it was pretty interesting
bleak pike
That's the only decent thing it has right now hehehe
robust ridge
:(
I enjoy this game a lot actually
I have more fun with SC than with No man's sky lul
small comet
what is a no mans sky
sleek gorge
SC is a buggy mess and the servers were crap over the free weekend
We spent 3 hours just trying to reach the expo center thing because one thing or another went wrong constantly
robust ridge
@sleek gorge Too bad, I didn't have this issue and I play since the beginning of the free week, it works fine
I play with a friend, we enjoy a lot travelling around
sleek gorge
I mean I'm glad you're having fun with it, but this free weekend just affirmed in my mind that I'm not spending money on it until it releases
And even then, who knows
robust ridge
It's the opposite for me lol, I'm definitely buying it. It's so much fun with a friend to make scenarios and stuff
robust ridge
Yup!
robust ridge
I don't speak english very well unfortunately ๐ฆ
Me too! The control for the ship are a bit difficult at the beginning!
I crashed once, after travelling for 10 minutes x)
bleak pike
I meant
Getting clearence
Flying is way easier than i remember.
I think they changed it a lot, but i found it rather easy.
sleek gorge
probably not
fossil solar
hello there
bleak pike
orchid prism
bleak pike
i think my headset is faulty...
orchid prism
wheat kraken
Well stop that
bleak pike
i never thought i would ever say this
but these are worse than the vive controllers
like holy shit
@wheat kraken HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH VIVE WANDS
wheat kraken
I'M NOT RICH ENOUGH TO OWN A VIVE
THEY WEREN'T BAD WHEN I PLAYED WITH THEM THE FEW TIMES
bleak pike
OMG i finally got mum to play VR, she was screaming endlessly when playing on a roller coaster xD xD xD
Im going to return it tbn
orchid prism
tepid sky
hushed iris
mmmmmhmmm...
nocturne crater
nocturne rose
Hahahaha
ripe tendon
That's one of the best I've seen, haha
hollow sphinx
๐
fallow bronze
MrPleasant, you dont like the lenovo explorer?
finally got to test mine yesterday after picking it up a the UPS distribution center half an hour out of the city.. goddamn ups
bleak pike
Ye
I don't
Mostly coming from an oculus the controllers are just unusable
Give me a few
@fallow bronze FYI tracking is awful if you don't use a USB 2 with an extension USB cable to a decent Bluetooth dongle
The lenovo explorer is great for someone who has used a vive or not a headset in general general before
But being so used to coulis touch the controllers are just unusable
Pros
- Res is amazing
- Tracking is alright
- Stupidly comfortable, i cant stress how cozy it is
- Super light
Cons
- Shit controller, tho youd have to own an oculus to feel this way
- Cant adjust the headset well, only one strap so you cant get the perfect spot
- No IPD adjustment meaning it could just not work out at all
- Tracking can be tedius if you dont have a USB extender with a bluetooth dongle
- You need a bluetooth dongle
The main issue for me is the controller, ipt and the lack of being able to adjust it good enough to be clear
fallow bronze
Im also having some issues with adjusting it, it seems to end up resting on my nose anyway. gf yesterday had way more trouble with it than i did...
Tracking seems fine, but the fov seems not so good?
havent had bluetooth issues yet, bought one of the cheapest 4.0 dongles i could find and plugged it in the top of my pc
bleak pike
Fov is because you can't adjust the ipd
Even tho its the same as oculus ad vice
It's a lot worse cos you can't adjust the lenses
fallow bronze
(they actually sent me 2 Bluetooth dongles... so i guess i got a spare?)
guess i'll move to the livingroom for the next couple of days to have some space to play vr games :p
1x1 meter is not enough
bleak pike
Lol I didn't get one
fallow bronze
runs
bleak pike
@fallow bronze anyway its a great set if you got it during black Friday
I'm returning simply because I have no use for it
I just can't stand the controllers
fallow bronze
โฌ200 yop, thats why i got it ๐
bleak pike
I offered to give it to a friend for the same price I bought it
But no one wants it
XD
I'd rather someone else have the oppertunity
Honestly though playing games like echo arena just isn't doable at all
fallow bronze
its โฌ250 now
bleak pike
That's still cheap
The offer ends soon
Think 2nd Dec
I really don't want to return it
Tbh
But it's just not doable with my vison
I can't adjust it or keep it in one play
The screen is so much better than oculus it's so noticeable
It's unfair
fallow bronze
I read a lot of stories about the Samsung Odyssey +
bleak pike
@fallow bronze like?
fallow bronze
that its pretty decent too
bleak pike
Ye it has really nice anti SDE
But at that price I'd rather have an oculus
I really hate the controllers
fallow bronze
what kind of performance? My car? my d***?
sleek gorge
Nintendo would like a word with you
wheat kraken
No. Stop
sleek gorge
Just means you gotta be 10x better to compensate
It's like goku wearing weights when he fights. Take those off and he's a monster
wheat kraken
well let's be honest... Those weighted clothes did jack shit by the time the Saiyan's arrived in Z.
turbid mantle
Eh. Tell that to the new weights.
bleak pike
Some weird questions just to play anthem
orchid prism
hushed iris
I noticed that
I think its a trick question lol
While โa win is a winโ not if it involves cheats wth
ripe tendon
isn't Anthem coop only? Do many people cheat in coop games?
and paying to be better lol. Of course EA asks that. That their way to justify them making it pay to win?
sleek gorge
People absolutely cheat in coop games. Helped a couple of mates with a payday achievement, they were using a mod to reduce the number of people needed from 3 to 4
wheat kraken
Payday 2 is acceptable IMO. With like 500 dlcs before it went all for one... and then being the same thing hundreds of hundreds of times in a row until you want to throw up, it can be very boring and sometimes you just wanna play it with the equipment you want and not worry about needing to potentially unlock it if you're lucky.
lone oasis
If you're not doing competitions or playing against others (in coop, people agreeing to what cheats) i don't really care about cheating :p
pliant dust
I care when it makes the game way too easy to enjoy.
lone oasis
Yeah, but that is up to the party to decide
pliant dust
sure
lone oasis
But you're not ruining it for others is what I mean ๐
wheat kraken
i mean i did it to max my ranks out in KF2. But I'm having more fun after doing it and it's not like it makes the game any easier.
pliant dust
That's fine, since it doesn't affect others that much. It's not like you are spawning stuff or having infinite ammo and live
young crow
wym
bleak pike
u wot
You live in Russia right
Is https://www.blizzard.com/ru-ru/ showing RUB or EUR
@young crow
lone oasis
lol, fallout 76 is only 22 euros on cdkeys :p
lone oasis
do note the correct way to activate it @orchid prism
orchid prism
Already activated ๐
lone oasis
ok
orchid prism
Now to finish Pc, so I can game again. Sold my 32" inch and new one arrives next week. Stuck with my laptop till then ๐ฆ
lone oasis
you bastard :p
fallow bronze
should be enough to play factorio ๐
orchid prism
I can play anything 2D and WoW on lowest graphics. That's about as much as my MX150 will handke
fallow bronze
nvidia 1030 ish ?
i always wonder about those cards... are they really that much faster than integrated?
orchid prism
A bit. They're mostly for media stuff and light CAD style work
orchid prism
144hz goodiness
lone oasis
and before?
orchid prism
Ended up with this one from AOC, @lone oasis
https://eu.aoc.com/en/gaming/products/ag322qc4
lone oasis
how much was it @orchid prism ?
orchid prism
480 ish
lone oasis
i thought, why is this cheaper than mine
orchid prism
And sold my old one for 180 to cover some costs
lone oasis
but it's not ultrawide is it?
orchid prism
Naw. 1440P 144hz AND Ultrawide are probably twice that
lone oasis
from my search
orchid prism
In 32" that is ๐
lone oasis
100hz+ is over 1k euros
that is why i settled with 100hz
which i believe i can still oc
orchid prism
I decided not to deal with UW, since 1440P is basically UW in this size, compared to a 1080P UW
Just more vertical space
lone oasis
i want a website like gsmarena.com, but then for monitors :p
hushed iris
Ultrawide is only good for productivity. In gaming its kind of a waste. Your FOV is fucked up
Racing games would be fine maybe
lone oasis
btw @orchid prism just a heads-up, the speakers are going to be shit :p
orchid prism
UW is becoming increasingly easier to use - Outside of competitive games.
hushed iris
Source: i have a dell u3818DW
orchid prism
Speakers? Mansen practically lives with headphones on ๐
hushed iris
Pubg is nearly unplayable with ultrawide, but thats not super surprising.
If they would allow the proper FOV it would basically be cheating
orchid prism
So many other ways to "cheat" due to having superior hardware. Kind of tired of excuses like that
hushed iris
I agree, but thats their excuse
orchid prism
Nothing new.
hushed iris
It cuts off sooo much vertical space
I have to play at 2560x1440 with black vsrs
Bars**
orchid prism
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hushed iris
I dont really like gaming on that monitor anyway tho, its just too big
At the distance i sit, because of coding
orchid prism
32" is my jam
hushed iris
38โ at 18-24โ away lel
orchid prism
Gotta fill mah vision ๐
hushed iris
Itโs only acceptable because of the curve
And its great for coding cause i have the editor on the right and browser on the left
orchid prism
That's not what your wife tells me! 
hushed iris
lone oasis
this one is also curved :p
orchid prism
"Quantum dot technology supporting sRGB 125% "
That.... that's not how math works Samsung. 
lone oasis
#BOOMMagicBaby
orchid prism
You use a different colour space with its own percentages. You don't just go "Yeah it covers more than the entire measurement". You mention both ๐
lone sequoia
I can't think of any other color spaces off the top of my head
too much of a pleb
but yea it's a weird way to say that
they could say something like
90% coverage of adobe rgb color space
on another note, I think it's interesting that the only thing that changes from srgb to adobe rgb are the greens
orchid prism
Humans see Green better than other hues. Muey importante
lone sequoia
they see it more but do we see more shades of green?
something I never really thought about
young crow
we don't see more shades of green, our eyes are just more sensitive to it
young crow
no it's not, you gotta look at it from the aerodynamics' standpoint
unique bane
@hushed iris yea new 240hz panels coming, the current ones aren't true 240hz, even if they're advertized as 240hz
bleak pike
bae
hushed iris
i feel like that's a BS excuse
hushed iris
audio encoding is like... 1%
if that
i just dont understand why they are 100GB+ now
like it wasnt that long ago that a 20GB game was like "WHY THE FUCK IS THIS SO BIG"
yeah ok, but
yeah
i mean yea, kinda like the HD textures pack for HL Blueshift
if you kids know anything about that
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orchid prism
cries in 1TB of SSD space
hushed iris
running windows 7? what a badass ๐
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why at all is my question
win10>win7 unless you need win7 for some really old game
orchid prism
It's an easy choice if you're on Modern hardware. No Windows 7 ๐
hushed iris
you can force anything to run on anything
i mean i can understand not running win10 updates as soon as they come out
and the various issues
but overall its way better than 7 ever was
dont get me wrong, i loved 7
but i also like 10
orchid prism
Missing drivers is a real issue.
Ms just chose to capitalize on it and show a big warning sign.
hushed iris
missing drivers from what? win7 or win10
orchid prism
Modern chipset on Win 7. ๐
hushed iris
yea well, i wouldn't expect new drivers for an OS that is EOL or about to be
orchid prism
Sure - VMs certainly make things easier
hushed iris
ya VM is a different story
but if you were running it directly i would wonder if you were sane
ads?
pliant dust
on the start menu, there is some tbf. But that could be avoid by using classic shell, since you have a w7 start menu instead ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
small comet
on the "win7 is better than 10" back when win7 was new they said "xp is better than 7"
and the whole "privacy" thing uh... i think the shit windows reports is the same as in win8, win7 and vista
nothing really changed afaik
hushed iris
@dense pond not sure what ads you are talking about tho? i dont get ads in my windows 10, at all
i assumed you meant like... in the tiles
hushed iris
yeah it's really not
switch to chrome, confirm yu dont want to use IE, and boom done
then its a bug
small comet
like
hushed iris
but its not something i ever experienced and i am pretty much textbook early adopter
small comet
trust me buddy i was hardcore on win7 aswell.... but when i switched well i didnt regret it
sure in the beginning win10 was kinda shit
but now its p fuckin cool
hushed iris
give it another shot, i guess?
small comet
i dont see any reason for myself to go back to 7
games that only run on older os can be emulated in a vm
so /shrug
hushed iris
wut
small comet
just download it
hushed iris
download from MS
small comet
^
hushed iris
lol
small comet
literally have a tool for that
hushed iris
you can download their ISO directly too with some research
small comet
dont see a reason not to use the normal semi annual release
i bet all ur "problems" come from using ltsb
just gonna inform u
ltsb benchmarks have worse results
google it
ive seen everything from a few hundred points in firestrike to like 900
how recent are we talking
urs isnt recent either lol
i mean i didnt install ltsb on any machine for like 7 months now
otherwise id say i take screens from the builds at work
maybe imma do some benchs after christmas when the whole ordeal of building shit tons of pcs is over
hushed iris
20-30gb i think
including pagefile, disable hibernation, etc
after install
i'm on hackintosh right now or i'd check
but last i checked my install was ~30gb
could be up to 40
but i dont think it is
i run a 128GB ssd on my desktop
havent had any desire to upgrade all my storage
i mean the basic thing to understand is
LTSB gives you stability while eschewing everything else
you dont need stability for gaming
yes but that comes at a cost
it means using older drivers
etc
sure? but .net framework gets updated a lot
yes but thats not how windows works
just cause you have .net wahtever installed
doesnt mean thats what windows is using to run shit with .net
hushed iris
core windows code is going to be running with locked versions of frameworks/drivers/etc for stability
small comet
but im unsure if they still exist
hushed iris
LTSB at its heart is made for running mission critical shit like medical machines
you can make regular win10 into something LIKE LTSB without all the drawbacks
amd FX?
none lmao, but that isnt the point is it?
shit they only barely patched the BSODs when the FX chips first came out
i couldnt play portal 2 for like a month on my FX8150
you might be fine, i just dont see the advantage of installing a hobbled version of an OS because you are annoyed by some very minor things
small comet
wait how old is ur system
hushed iris
like just install win10 N if you dont want IE
small comet
eh ull feel no perf impact in games then
hushed iris
disable cortana
small comet
but ya the N versions are better imo
hushed iris
idk, i have a "shit free" experience every time i boot win10
which isnt often, admittedly
small comet
i use win10 daily mainly cause i couldnt be fucked to switch os all the time
hushed iris
the most annoying thing is that i have windows updates every time i boot
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it's also faster than win7 tbh
well, that's anecdotal
but i mean it FEELS faster
i mean i get you- its why i use os x ๐
if i could stand any of the package systems or guis for linux i'd use linux
but they all suck in one way or another
small comet
i hate osx even more
hushed iris
centos' yum was pretty good, but centos/rh just sucks now
small comet
mainly cause its just freebsd heavily modified
hushed iris
i mean if you dont use os x expecting it to be linux/freebsd, then it's fine
yea no thanks, i'd like to spend time actually doing things than posting screenshots of my unusable custom window manager
there are merits to never needing to leave the keyboard within a particular app
small comet
i mean if id install linux id use arch
hushed iris
well, in the context of keeping services running, i love systemd
i much prefer it to launchctl/launchd
hushed iris
yea grub is definitely a swiss army knife
but its used in like n^2 distros so
as the default*
hushed iris
elementaryos is cool, but still too young for any serious use
gentoo is great if you dont mind compiling everything
small comet
gentoo is an inside meme by now
hushed iris
yea well i think thats why you hate the idea of win10 lol
but 10 years ago you'd be saying the same thing about win7
so
small comet
cant complain bout win10
mainly cause dx12
altho
thats also kinda shit that its win10 only
hushed iris
well, there are technical reasons
yea but at what cost
as a developer you have to weigh the pros/cons of supporting old frameworks/code for the users that MIGHT use it
i suspect the people who would actually run win7 and dx12, if they were to make it for win7, would be in <0.1%
exactly
right...
compared to previous versions of windows, win10 costs less than windows has ever cost, i think
small comet
i think im a bigger fan of dx9.0c tho
hushed iris
lmao
small comet
it just comes with so many games
still hate that steam doesnt check if that shit is installed already
small comet
btw anyone got a clue how i can fix ark from crashing with bsods
hushed iris
what do you run the VM with
small comet
qemu god
small comet
i mainly got to use qemu cause my kvm root is qemu aswell
hushed iris
what bsod is it
small comet
@hushed iris sadly yes
some video driver shit
but i can tell u its 100% ark
cause ive been hardcore gaming and running deep neural networks for 2 weeks with my rtx2080ti and only ark crashes
hushed iris
did you turn RTX on ๐
small comet
even for the 10xx series
small comet
na
i bought it mainly for AI shit
and its doing great at that
way better than my 2 1080tis
hushed iris
yea but every time i have ever gone bleeding edge
there are always some games that are incompatible
hushed iris
temporary incompatibility, i'm sure you are not the only one getting this bsod
small comet
i mainly do software/hardware development
hushed iris
nvidia releases driver updates to fix game bsod's
hushed iris
lol
hushed iris
could be
small comet
i have the feeling that the whole rtx features they put in together with dx11 just fuck the game
hushed iris
its not using DX12? literally unplayable
small comet
welp lets see if i can play longer than 5minutes
small comet
am always offline cause people bug me about support with discord bots and tensorflow.js
hushed iris
oh haha
small comet
i code for a bot thats on 40k servers
so they assume im like a hotline
i usually just say "read the docs" and block em
hushed iris
what bot lol
hushed iris
oh lawd
small comet
ikr
small comet
but i tinker with the idea of implementing a DNN so it can basically be cleverbot but better
lol
na thats just way too awkward to setup
especially since i run discord canary
welp cant do anything when it updates
fucks both installs into 1
btw
ark didnt crash
so
guess i can only play dx10 with shit graphics
seems fair
hushed iris
the devs probably havent even upgraded to 2080ti yet
small comet
ok this game sucks i cant figure it out
small comet
does chromium need printer drivers?
hushed iris
ooooo maybe thats it ye
small comet
i mean it either electron itself or chromium