Hahahahahaha that face
#๐ฎโgame
toxic hill
orchid prism
Aaaaaah! DICE cannot into coding games. Eff Battlefield 1 so hard.
I accidentally set my ingame resolution scale to 4K - like many, many others. Why? Because their settings menu makes about as much sense as Moonraker.
So.... native resolution? 42%... 42? Yes 42.
Double resolution (4K on 1080) ? 100%
Try to turn the game back to native resolution ingame? Not possible because 42 is not 42... so you gotta delete the settings files and avoid touching it.
- goes off rambling at DICE for terrible interface programming *
gilded crow
@orchid prism did you need a beta key from email?
orchid prism
I got my key a few days, yes.
orchid prism
Like I said - Try poking their Twitter through the Wooting account for a PR contact mail. Usually works.
Really curious to see if the Wooting and BF1 work well together. Aka. Analog controls but keyboard binds everywhere else ๐
gilded crow
Me too
BF4 works great
You remind me that we have the power!
I mean, I never realize contacting these people for pr purpose lol
Oh just started downloading it
orchid prism
Mhmm. As long as you represent a brand that is meaningful to their PR strategy, you can get pretty far. That's how we usually get preview keys for our Twitch channel - Even if it's barely holding 10 viewers on a good day.
Now if only our streamers would switch to English...
gilded crow
lol
orchid prism
I mean something as big as a WoW expansion release stream should get at least a hundred. Which we used to get... when one of our streamers secretly used viewbots... tsk tsk tsk
eager birch
I can't wait to see how the Wooting One's analog controls translate to BF1's horses :>
slender mauve
BF1 is open beta isn't it?
Just install it on Origin ๐ฎ
We did that at work today with a few collegues
orchid prism
bleak pike
Hype died when they decided to only release the desert map.
slender mauve
https://www.twitch.tv/unrealengine/v/86995068 Around 48:30.... Well. It starts at this moment, just because I'm happy that we won the UE4 Game Jam of August ๐
is sharing his happiness
short sorrel
@slender mauve grats!
Like legit
I still dont even have my render pipeline fully shaped up, and here you are winning game jams
Im jelly
slender mauve
@short sorrel Thanks ๐
Well.. I'm not taking care of those render pipeline stuffs. So it makes it "easy". ๐
toxic hill
The Abatron KS looks cool but I feel like the art style will turn me off
@cold thicket 90nm tech FTW!
gilded crow
This Saturday I'm going to stream some BF1 with an old Wooting one prototype.
Going to give different things a shot in the game. See what the result is.
orchid prism
Great.
orchid prism
Mei is bei
blazing zodiac
Guys, who played beta Battlefield 1. Is the game worth it or it's a garbage? I can't play and only reading the forum.
orchid prism
Do you like previous BF titles?
For me it is basically Bad Company 2 all over - except with primitive...er technology.
Tanks look silly and are impractical. Planes are very basic. Rifles will miss often.,
Have I enjoyed it? Yes - Though I miss teamwork like I have in Overwatch. There it is forced. Here... mostly zerglings getting headshot.
The one map we have in beta is a sandstorm map though - Hard visibility at random. And some giant siege tank train thing for one team.
keen urchin
I won't even bother thinking about trying it or not until they get their DX12 working
orchid prism
DX12 works just fine here? What are your problems?
keen urchin
They even state that it's experimental. It's just a straight port from DX11, which generally performs worse. Still needs a lot of work
Not doubting that they'll get that work done, though.
keen urchin
BF1 will get Vulcan?
blazing zodiac
I just don't know if it worth to pre-order or not. It's hard to tell by only watching videos
Nope
keen urchin
Then why mention it?
blazing zodiac
Because it's exist and perfom better than dx12
keen urchin
We were talking about BF1 specifically, though :p
Whether or not it performs better than DX12 is yet to be seen, but it's out there, no doubt.
blazing zodiac
BTW previous BF games had Mantle api. So Vulkan may eventually become available
orchid prism
Experimental or not - It has worked flawlessly on my RX480 for 6 hours or so. ๐
keen urchin
No microstutter?
Ah yeah, it's works pretty well on the 480
It's like they optimised for it before any other card
Maybe to boost sales ๐
I'm kinda worried that ES2 will be DX11 only :/
orchid prism
Could be - Only kind of stutter I get is from loading in assets midgame. God knows why that happens.
keen urchin
Try running it on a 980 or 290X. It'll definitely run worse than DX11.
orchid prism
Don't have either - But point taken.
At least Deus Ex devs decided to push DX12 until after release to avoid any kinks.
keen urchin
Anyway, they still have plenty of time to optimise. Maybe they're using the beta to collect data on that
orchid prism
Probably - The "beta" sure as hell isn't about the engine or features as a whole. It hasn't changed a bit since the alpha preview events. It's what I'd call a feature finished product.
Maybe the usualy netcode and load optimizations, but I have seen worse AAA games on release.
keen urchin
Heh. So many.
orchid prism
I definitely welcome better DX12 support - It's where my RX480 is supposed to gain on the 1060. Even though I tend to focus more on 60fps than quality.
keen urchin
120 FPS will do you good even on a 60Hz display. Reduces your display lag by making sure the last image is never more than 8ms old. But that matters more in CS than BF
orchid prism
Eh - I'm not that desperate for frames. I'd have to sacrifice a lot of fidelity for a constant 120.
keen urchin
And yeah, was it Doom? Where the 480 is almost touching the 1070 in DX12?
slender mauve
Also means input updates better
blazing zodiac
LOL! What are talking about?For the lLast few years I setting all to min and pray for >24
orchid prism
Only place where I accept dips below 60 is during 25 man raids in WoW and such. Too many spell effects to expect better - And WoW allows for a raid specific graphics setup, which is nice.
keen urchin
That's likely CPU bound
slender mauve
@keen urchin It is
keen urchin
And the raid mode probably focuses on that
slender mauve
It can't be GPU bound XD
keen urchin
100% GPU load?
orchid prism
We both know that still will never happen with a game ๐
keen urchin
Eh, there's plenty of games that are GPU bound for me
orchid prism
Particle effects are still primarily GPU based though.
keen urchin
And plenty of games where I toss in SSAA because I hit the limit of what my CPU can do
cold thicket
Haha you never get more then 50% GPU usage in Arma 3
keen urchin
I'm running 144Hz though, so I'll hit CPU limits far quicker than GPU limits
keen urchin
290X
cold thicket
I meant cpu
keen urchin
And a Oced 5820K
cold thicket
Oh
cold thicket
Do you hit 100% in all cores? Or the game doesn't use more then a core
keen urchin
I'd need to run that GPU at >6GHz for most games to get stable FPS
Almost all DX11 is tied to one core
They shove some work on other cores, but never much load
orchid prism
As much as they can.
keen urchin
Yeah
cold thicket
Well their you go
You will be able to do way better with DX12 because its got multi core support
orchid prism
Scratch that earlier remark - first crash in BF1... on startup xD
cold thicket
Or Vulkan whenever that comes out
keen urchin
Fun fact: Async requires a powerful CPU, or DX11 will actually work better
orchid prism
Mmmm... can't wait for that x99 upgrade.
keen urchin
But it's properly loading all cores, so any 4C/8T+ will do
4C/4T i5s are already suffering under DX12 loads
Nvidia's software async is CPU scheduled as well
And only works within their strict coding parameters
cold thicket
Can't with for 7nm....
keen urchin
Throw a true async load at it, and the driver will crap inself even on a i7 extreme
So yeah, in total DX12 puts significantly more load on the CPU than DX11
But it's properly multithreaded, so if you got cores, you got power
orchid prism
Time to compare with DX11
orchid prism
DX11 runs a bit faster - and smoother. But nothing I would have noticed if you hadn't mentioned it. So I'd call that a careful "win". Definitely room for improvemenet. ๐
bleak pike
Amen
orchid prism
Did Calder mention anything about BF and Wooting on Stream?
keen urchin
He said he wanted to do one and test out what the Wooting can contribute to the experience, but that's all I know
bleak pike
@frail orbit haha you know we think this when chopping Cedar tree's ๐ @gilded crow calder tree
keen urchin
What game?
bleak pike
Black Desert Online
robust sedge
He's doing a stream tomorrow right?
cold thicket
Are you streaming rn
orchid prism
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spare light
so this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYSWH10AxD8&feature=youtu.be just happened
was fun while it lasted :/
skyrim modding 10/10 would break again
orchid prism
gilded crow
lol
slender mauve
@orchid prism Nice hahaha ๐
orchid prism
This is awesome - http://imgur.com/gallery/nVGmz
bleak pike
@frail orbit actually hyped af https://youtu.be/sylbGO27t0Y
frail orbit
@bleak pike do you play a witch?
bleak pike
My original main was Witch, i re rolled ranger.... so i may go back, ill sit back and watch first though lol
frail orbit
that finger snap is pretty awesome
bleak pike
ik :3
hallow verge
best roadhog us?
orchid prism
Oh goodie - A patch for the BF1 beta on the last day it's up. What can POSSIBLY go wrong.
hallow verge
๐
orchid prism
Of course not - It was never about the maps, Pleasant ๐
I've had enough of BF1 solo though. No one spots enemies, so you're running around blind. People don't group up either - even in squads. So I keep being flanked from where I had a squadmate stand not two seconds earlier.
Oh and of course all the bugs - random sandstorms for some players, vanishing vehicles etc.. ๐
toxic hill
These guys are ripping off EVE so hard
And somehow think they can mix in Minecraft
For 500k EUR
Although I guess they've already put a good deal of time and money in
gilded crow
Star citizen all over again
gilded crow
After looking at the video, it does look promising. I don't really see the EVE ripoff other than its setting and scale. Rather just taking ideas from many different games and put together.
But as any other KS game it will take a while and they've got a bad start with the reputation around space games lately
and over promise
no mans sky
still in dev sc
blazing zodiac
short sorrel
Questions is will it be Origin locked and/or will it die in a few months like the first one did
blazing zodiac
There was some rumors that it will appear on Steam but it seems Respawn and EA have a deal.
And I think it shouldn't die in a month. Not like the first one
Tho some changes are breaking my heart
short sorrel
Origin is what kills it for me
Im not Steam elitist, far from it
But its a pain in teh ass to have GoG, Steam, Origin, Uplay AND Battlenet installed and running on my computer
That 5 different friends lists i have to keep up with
As well as 5 clients running on my machine
I do like that Ubi finally got their ass in gear in regards to teh millions of people bicthing about Uplay not allowing you to minimize to tray
bleak pike
I agree
But we have to live with it.
You also have the blizzard launcher
Lol they even make a map trailer feel sad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRvAjYYb3fc
i love it though... compared to like cod dlc or bf dlc
Actually feels like great new useful content
tight quail
that map is a lot of fun ๐
bleak pike
Ye i have seen gameplay
tight quail
aww you dont play ow ?
short sorrel
@bleak pike thats Battlenet
I mentioned it in the statement
@tight quail he owns it but never plays, says not enough time yet spends time on stuff such as rewriting an entire website.
bleak pike
kek Watchdogs gameplay in Mr Robot
orchid prism
They also showed a Corsair Lapdog I believe. They're pretty into modern tech and culture.
It's refreshing.
short sorrel
Thats what im running
orchid prism
Hm... they cracked Doom. Properly this time it seems.
Guess the crackers are catching on to Denuvo slowly.
In other news - User mods for Bethesda games aren't going to happen on PS4 after all.
bleak pike
They semi cracked it months ago
orchid prism
Nope. They bypassed Denuvo by using a really dumb trick involving the demo - Which only worked for about two days until it was patched.
blazing zodiac
IMO it won't be a case if Microsoft decide to make Windows more closed system (stop using Win32)
orchid prism
What?
blazing zodiac
You didn't heard that Windows is trying to destroy Steam?
orchid prism
Good luck with that - Microsoft's game store is a nightmare already. No one is wiling to give up what they're asking.
blazing zodiac
They want to force everyone use Universal Windows Platform
orchid prism
Besides - Were that to happen, you can bet your ass Linux is going to take off fast.
blazing zodiac
TBH I doubt that SteamOS will change anything
Because devs (read huge publishers) will gladly agree on it
orchid prism
Who said anything about SteamOS?
blazing zodiac
Less piracy and less cheaters online
SteamOS is the *nix system by Steam for gaming
orchid prism
You're forgetting one important aspect - Customers. I am not talking about Steam vs. Microsoft. I am talking about locked versus open systems.
blazing zodiac
Who cares about customers?
orchid prism
Companies who like to get paid ๐
blazing zodiac
AHAHAHAHA LOL!!!
This is why they are making garbage games with day 1 patches
Tonns of dlc
orchid prism
That ... literally has nothing to do with this topic ๐
No mods? Oh yeah - Skyrim is going to be SO awesome.
blazing zodiac
Well, it's not 100% confirmed anyway
orchid prism
Of course it isn't - Microsoft aren't dumb enough to commit financial suicide.
blazing zodiac
I doubt it will be a financial suicide
They just need to prepare all for it
First step - windows play anywhere feature
orchid prism
You gravely underestimate the PC gamer platform and their stubborness not to be treated like console owners.
blazing zodiac
Don't get me wrong. PC master race
But there are also some facts that cause concerns
Like microsoft's plans to use UWP
orchid prism
No one cares - Microsoft's presence on the game market is hilariously small. They keep closing down studios.
blazing zodiac
Don't forget that most people run games on Windows OS
Do nut underestimate their power
And their influence to gaming in general
orchid prism
Here's the thing - The only Microsoft specific thing we rely on today is DirectX. Which has competition. Vulcan, OpenGL (Back in the day)
If Microsoft tries to pull anything, gamedevs will simply move over and Microsoft will lose market shares faster than you can scream.
Even if they go full on DRM, you can just play any OpenGL based application or game on it.
blazing zodiac
How many games support Linux?
orchid prism
In theory? Literally any game that runs OpenGL or any of its variants.
Which is... a LOT of games.
blazing zodiac
Yeaj... but still
Can you run, for example Battlefield 4 on Linux?
GTA 5?
Battlefield 1?
It doesn't realy matter if a lot of small games support it
Almost all huge projects aren't and this is the worst part
orchid prism
Games of that scale? Yes.
blazing zodiac
And now imagine that microsoft will make a deal with huge publishers
orchid prism
No such deal will ever happen for the simple reason of not wanting to piss off customers.
blazing zodiac
People still pre-order games
orchid prism
Microsoft are already feeling a hard blowback from trying to make future CPUs "Current OS or newer only" restricted.
Microsoft still hasn't made any DRM changes - Your argument is... premature at best ๐
Want a kabylake? Say goodbye to Windows 7 without emulation.
blazing zodiac
If they don't have it now doesn't mean they won't have it in future
orchid prism
It also doesn't mean that customers won't change their behaviour either - So it's naive to assume otherwise ๐
orchid prism
The instant that a gamedev points out that you can say goodbye to any concept of mods? Hoo boy...
blazing zodiac
I don't this it will kill mods for the games
Instead of it devs will have to provide solid API for it
*I don't think
orchid prism
Bethesda games are a great example of not being able to simply API it.
You have a ton of script extenders and similar mods that all rely on third party tools, ddls and tools.
blazing zodiac
ESO have not a bad API and LUA supports
blazing zodiac
Yep. And mostly by Zenimax
Anyway it won't happen in nearest future if ever happen at all. A lot of buisness software use win32 and have no support so no one will rewrite for uwp.
orchid prism
13 hours to download DOOM. Oh goodie...
toxic hill
@blazing zodiac Rocket League appears to be getting a Linux port
But if you look at what people are playing on Steam, most of them are playing stuff that runs on Linux
blazing zodiac
@toxic hill only if you look on top10. Open top100 and linux suported games will be ~30%.
And even that doesn't really matter. Most AAA projects don't have linux support. And that is a big deal.
bleak pike
They are dying sadly
blazing zodiac
Physically or like a company?
bleak pike
A market
orchid prism
Eh... wouldn't say that. You just won't see THE MMO again, since there's so many offerings.
blazing zodiac
Yeah. But maybe this guys will make something different and unique
orchid prism
I'm enjoying WoW just fine tbh.
bleak pike
I'm on about the market... Wow is an old game, I'm not saying it's failing etc I'm saying the genre and market are failing.
Every year games come out, good ones become cash grabs and guy, bad ones just fade away. All new MMOs are morning new, they just copy the previous game or try to be a wow game.
orchid prism
Sometimes genres need to fail and die out a bit - To be followed by a ressurrection. 4X had that until last couple of years. This year we're seeing a flood of new titles that are all promising.
bleak pike
You could argue it's the audience which a lot of it is but regardless it's slowly dyeing.
orchid prism
And as much as I can relate to taking a quick game of OVerwatch because I can't make it to 4 hours of raiding three nights a week - I'm going to miss just that. Working together towards a common goal over time.
bleak pike
Someone needs me make a SAO like game ๐
Lol
BDO had protential but because of the sheer greed it lost a huge amount of its player base.... I'm really looking forward to revelation online however, there's a few rifles that want to bring back MMOs but in reality it won't be enoughZ
Ye exactly
Revelation has roots, dungeons etc, it's the closest I can get to fun but sadly it's Chinese and anime art style.... Coping with that is doable though. There's just never a title that brings new things to the table.
And when they do its not new, it's just recycled and twisted or they fuck us over.
Tbh im more into fantasy than anything, I really thing a game on a huge scale such as Sao would help.... But marketing needs to be worked on!!
orchid prism
Asian MMOs. Not even once ๐
bleak pike
Well
I did say Sao like
Not Asian
I don't want an anime game
Again
I said Sao like as in so much to do.
orchid prism
I was talking about the companies, not the art style ๐
bleak pike
BDO has sooooo much but it's ruined.
blazing zodiac
And not we are (at least I'm) waiting Lost Ark
Looks pretty neat and and have MMO features
New Lineage should release soon too
ESO was good enough (till they switched to cash shop and B2P)
I agree that a lot of games had a really briliant idea in the core but turned just another cash grab
Well, any mmo can't be more cash grab than Star Citizen
orchid prism
blazing zodiac
@orchid prism And add this music to it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg
orchid prism
Haha yeah - It was playing in my head the entire time ๐
toxic hill
@blazing zodiac The thing is, 10 times more people play CS:GO or Dota2 than any other game
toxic hill
I would be willing to bet that 50% of people playing steam at any time could be using Linux
blazing zodiac
True. Tho that doesn't mean that they will prefer to keep play only these games and will refuse all new titles. Sure, all can have Linux and play cs go. But if someone want a new Battlefield 8 or Gears of War 6 - you need Win10. TBH that will the only change for customers.
The whole thing is nt the case in nearest 5-10 years for sure.
toxic hill
Hmm let's see here
9/10, 27/50, 45/100 top games (as of right now) run natively on Linux
At least
There might be two more for which the store pages no longer exist
bleak pike
@orchid prism random ik but you have to admit it has a little WoW vibe https://youtu.be/rjuSbOj__SE
gilded crow
Definitely a WoW vibe
omgomgomggmogmogmogm I so much want to play a fricking mmorpg
a bit of hm what was taht game name again
flying and stuff
with funny korean happy noises
blazing zodiac
@toxic hill I don't get it. Even if the half of old games support linux how it will affect future games? Publishers just can forbid it (if they will make a deal with microsoft). It doesn't really matter TBH. I'm not going to miss all interesting projects because they aren't support linux.
@gilded crow Maybe Blade and Soul?
gilded crow
Blade and soul?
never heard of that one, but that's not the one
let me google
Aion
that's it
blazing zodiac
Oh, it's the old one.
bleak pike
omg @frail orbit awakening is bs
slender mauve
@bleak pike Is it?
bleak pike
bdo
frail orbit
which awakening? @bleak pike
bleak pike
@frail orbit bruh unfinished convo
frail orbit
We do this a lot don't we @bleak pike ๐
I have so many Discord servers I end up only checking them when I have notifications
Totally agree, awakenings are for people who can grind like 4hrs a day
Really increases the curve quite unfairly
But that's what they're going for I think - if you have a p2a game, people are more likely to spend money on it the steeper the curve is, because they hit that wall much harder
bleak pike
@frail orbit http://imgur.com/a/FK3gV
frail orbit
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bleak pike
omg im crying http://imgur.com/gallery/KCHLp
blazing zodiac
Chris Metzen left Blizzard. What? Why all escaping Blizzard as it is a sinking boat?
orchid prism
About time.
While I won't deny his skills as an artist or idea guy, he is a big part of the reason why Warcraft design (not gameplay) has suffered for a decade or more.
You still see it today - Him and his core group of "designers" focus on certain things and ignore the big picture. Just a glance at the new "class halls" (Esentially quest hubs unique to each class) are wildly different. Some have an amazing level of detail and love put into them...while others are just slapped together from mostly old assets.
And guess which classes have had the most work? Metzen's favourite ones...
orchid prism
Druid one is probably the most noticeable one. They've always had special treatment, and their class hall is no different.
It's like a big, lush jungle oasis.
orchid prism
Hunter one is also pretty bleak
It's basically a half empty hunting lodge on a mountain peak
short sorrel
What about rougue
orchid prism
Rogue, Demon hunter and Death Knight are all really bad.
Rogue basically gets a small hideout in the old Underbelly sewers of Dalaran. Death Knights just get a slightly updated version of their old floating fortress. Similar story with Demon Hunters.
Paladins get a huge underground catherdral hidden beneath Stormwind.
orchid prism
Warriors get their own private Valhalla.
short sorrel
One thing i hate
Is that i cant use Doomhammer unless im enchancement shaman
I prefer to play healer
But
Doom-fucking-hammer m8..
orchid prism
I really need to get my shaman to level 100 though. Got a big Tauren action figure on my desk of a vanilla shammie
orchid prism
I've been a druid loyalist since Burning Crusade, but after they gave us a global cooldown on shapeshifts, it just isn't the same. ๐ฆ
Bai
bleak pike
@frail orbit new update is great
bleak pike
Great update
Only thing im pissed about is the free Tier 5 Female horse.
Can't wait to buy the witch and sorc armor off my whale friend @frail orbit hahahahahahaha
frail orbit
it's not a guaranteed t5 according to the item description
bleak pike
it says t5 female
bleak pike
@frail orbit kek i sniped the helmet... how wonderful ./sigh
frail orbit
which helmet?
i read this as "could be tier 1-5"
but it could also be read as "one tier 5 female"
frail orbit
nice
bleak pike
the awake wep i will buy with rl money when i bother to get this sorc anywhere hahaha
frail orbit
what level is it atm?
orchid prism
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bleak pike
I have spares now though sadly
bleak pike
@frail orbit hehe
bleak pike
@frail orbit mfw when 25fs doesn't work when you want to duo
frail orbit
Rip
signal wharf
Dual Universe looks promising. Kickstarter here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1949863330/dual-universe-civilization-building-sci-fi-mmorpg
It looks like a first-person EVEalike with a focus on base and ship building.
Neat that it allows players to implement scripts into their ships and other built objects for extra functionality
blazing zodiac
@signal wharf You mean like Star citizen with crafting?
signal wharf
Yes and also no. Star Citizen is a sharded multiplayer "first person universe" that focuses on visual and mechanical fidelity as its primary hook. Practically speaking, it isn't an MMO in the strictest sense of the phrase.
This is more like EVE, a true MMO with no shards or instances, and all content, control, and gameplay handed over to players.
But instead of interfacing with the game through menus, you also have a first person representation and direct control over your character and ship.
It's more a hybrid of the two which favors more heavily toward EVE.
blazing zodiac
If you will way now that it uses megaserver for al players then shut up and take my money
Looks fine but curious how it will work.
orchid prism
So... why not just play EVE? Heh
blazing zodiac
The main question is will it support Wooting keyboard?
orchid prism
short sorrel
Mainly because i dont like EVE
Like to do more than fly ships, want to infiltrate them
orchid prism
You... want an FPS hybrid?
short sorrel
Isnt that basically what star citizen is
Except not MMO
FLy ships in first person, have first person weapons, wtc
orchid prism
Except not MMO indeed, heh. Which is the point I was implying. ๐
short sorrel
I want first person of EVE
Essentually that thing that Trent linked looks that thats basically it
orchid prism
That'll never happen for the same reasons that Planetside 2 can't handle it ๐
orchid prism
Pure and simple - Overload of elements to keep track off and sync up. EVE as it is has to slow down the server rate to like a tenth of normal or less if you get a decently large combat going. Now add soldiers to that? Hoo boy...
Planetside 2 tries - tries to combat this by reducing the render range dynamically. To the point where you have 2 meters or less of render range of other players and vehicles. So fun.
short sorrel
you mean draw distance?
because last i played planetside 2 i never noticed a falloff of draw distance, just typical LOD shifts
orchid prism
I'm talking about the literal rendering of other players.
orchid prism
Yeah... PS2 has lost most of its players. Back when people actually played it and had EVE style battles, you were lucky to see far enough to throw a rock most of the time.
And what's worse is - It wasn't always synced well between factions. So you could have one side be able to snipe, while the other was sometimes lucky to shotgun.
orchid prism
When not in doubt - Blame the obvious reason. You simply cannot expect hundreds of player objects on screen ๐
short sorrel
'But bro, this is CSGO... the servers are 120 ti...'
'20 TICK CYKA BLYAT'
orchid prism
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robust sedge
How is SC not an MMO? Didn't they show complete multiplayer at their gamescom demo?
Or is it still an instanced multiplayer world?
orchid prism
Instanced. ๐
signal wharf
The design has always been for instanced multiplayer. They want large instances (up to a few hundred), but SC was always meant to be instanced.
orchid prism
It's the sensible choice really - Even further sharding by keeping each solar system separate as well. It's the only way EVE doesn't slow to a crawl all the time.
blazing zodiac
TBH what I really do not like in DU (actually in every kickstarter game) is the unique bonuses. Sure, devs want to say "Thank you for support" but I think there are a lot of other options how to do it. It's not a big deal, I know it. But I still can't accept it. See this fancy outfit? Want it? Fuck you, you will never get it because you didn't pledged on kickstarter/indieggo/etc. $5!
I think physical bonuses is a really good way to say thank you. Or an NPC name.
orchid prism
Eh... if it's a cosmetic I don't see the problem.
Physicals are an utter nightmare - especially for the backers.
blazing zodiac
Yeah, I know. As I said it's not a big deal. Tho it pisses me off every time.
Back in my days (am I really that old?) CE was only for true collectors and for hardcore fans
With good physical goodies
orchid prism
Those still exist though.
blazing zodiac
Did you seen BF1 CE?
It is an insult IMO
Titanfall 1 had not bad CE. Want to buy the second one CE but I already payed for the wooting keyboard
orchid prism
It looks... perfectly standard CE no?
orchid prism
So... a CE.
blazing zodiac
Still quality is afwul
orchid prism
Quality has never been a CE thing.
blazing zodiac
Well. it was back in my days. I still have some goodies from different games
And they are still working
I have an artifact from Stalker game
orchid prism
I'd love some examples - Because I have owned my fair share of old CE boxes too. Never had any semblance of !quality"
blazing zodiac
Nice thing, still working
orchid prism
Baldur's gate. A simple shirt, some trading cards and postcards. Done.
blazing zodiac
It falled few times, but still fine
IMO awesome
Titanfall 1 had an average CE. The main figure is cool and it still working
orchid prism
http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/scale_small/6/61151/1390056-d2ce_box_back.jpg Diablo 2 had some D&D intro stuff. All very basic, paper stuff. Easy to produce. Again - Not exactly artisan craftmansship...
frail orbit
@bleak pike does Croxus have its own BDO discord for boss timers etc?
blazing zodiac
Blizzar didn't changed that much. D3 have almost the same goodies (except D&D stuff)
orchid prism
So what I'm hearing you say is... You call any kind of physical item "quality"... yet someone don't think a neat figurine and some other accessories are "quality" I don't get you man...
orchid prism
Yes....
orchid prism
Do you have any idea how expensive figurines are? Hahaha
orchid prism
Right - So you don't. Glad we cleared that.
blazing zodiac
LOL
Threezero statues cost ~400-500
And it worth every penny
IDK, if you agree to pay for it then ok, tho it's just stupid
orchid prism
That is your opinion - Based on... what exactly? Have you actually looked at the figure? It's not just a mold. There's clear texturing and handpainting involved.
You never cease to make me laugh, Ashy - And not always for good reasons ๐
orchid prism
That's mighty impressive considering the game isn't even out yet...heh
Oh there we go - Four pages into YT. A single video. The figurine looks just as you'd expect given the price range.
blazing zodiac
Sure, the subject is up to change. But for now it doesnt look worth 200 eur.
orchid prism
k
blazing zodiac
And expirience tells me that it won't be beeter than we already seen
Or Sideshow. They also have pretty nice examples of how to do it right.
IDK google it if you want to see quality
blazing zodiac
Ok then. Not sure why you arguing tho.
bleak pike
@frail orbit yes it does
orchid prism
Why? Because I don't agree with your evaluation of the price versus product at all ๐
orchid prism
Like I said earlier. "k"
blazing zodiac
The Crew is free on Uplay but not in Steam ๐ฆ
bleak pike
i have it on steam anyway
blazing zodiac
Why reviews on it so bad? I thought it's just an OK game
bleak pike
What fane?
*game?
The crew? i thought it was the perfect racing game?#
Wasn't it like broken at release? i have never played it.
frail orbit
@bleak pike like, separate from the BDO-EU discord?
frail orbit
i know, i asked because there doesn't seem to be very many croxus people on that server
frail orbit
is it this one? https://discord.gg/N5pYu
frail orbit
ahh right so Croxus moved into another server, gotcha. i thought it was weird how there were only like 20 odd in that one
bleak pike
nah there has always been a dedicated discord
No one ever annonced boss spawns sadly
why would you care? your not in croxus lol
frail orbit
like i said, just curious since there used to be 100-200 people in that one
and it seemed to be growing until a bunch left
so still no-one announces boss spawns on the croxus one?
bleak pike
i left ages ago
frail orbit
wow so no boss tracker? how do you even do worldbosses? ๐ฆ
bleak pike
im on 15 servers as it is
so i left both bdo servers
And everyone always annonces in game
via server
frail orbit
ah that's not too bad i guess
frail orbit
jordine is EU ๐
because it's so organised i can usually catch 2-3 of each worldboss every time they spawn
you should give kutum a try, it's fun
good loot too, i get about 2mil in gold bars every time
bleak pike
our server is semi dead
populated
but dead
PKing is heavy over here.
Sausans is meh
even helms is populated by pkers
I know my AP is low... but i have only just bothered starting to work on it as i have high life skills etc, im working on duo today, im gonna buiy witch and pri them etc
im also working on bronze
I have liverto but i have been working on that slowly
i give up on bdo till i realized how fast they are relasing awakening... im kinda making sure im ready haha
@frail orbit
frail orbit
not too bad @bleak pike - have you tried TRI yet?
frail orbit
i've tried TET 2 times now on my liverto and i honestly don't think i'm going to try again
and yea i'm nowhere near hardcore myself, just managed to catch a lot of worldbosses so ended up with a lot of blackstones for failstacking
i hit 57 and i think i'll stop grinding for a while
i need my skillpoints to catch up with my level a bit since i grind in groups because valks are slow as fuck to solo grind
hallow verge
Any cool game we should test analog with?
orchid prism
Racing games are always a good test - Since that's arguably the genre that most people connect with analogue need.
hallow verge
Any specific title?
bleak pike
@hallow verge look in #archived_feed_us_back
toxic hill
@hallow verge I still want to see you guys play Insurgency
blazing zodiac
hallow verge
Insurgency is a good idea.
blazing zodiac
frail orbit
Lol @bleak pike it's all about that slow crawl of progress
Atm my gear doesn't progress for weeks at a time because I'm working on boss gear
I need to do a 10x relic party so I can get my Giath helm usable
bleak pike
Ye I'm doing my scrolls soon
You need some snacks doing them bad boys... They take forever
Haha
frail orbit
just did a 5x10 group @bleak pike - took over 2 hours
but
need to do another 5-10x group now to get it actually usable ๐
so glad i got it to DUO today though, it did similar to my Bheg gloves because they went from 15-TRI with no fails
the Giath's went 15-DUO no fail ๐
bleak pike
GG
bleak pike
gg
blazing zodiac
frail orbit
no, but i've recently found out about the IHA servers
pretty clever bot system they have
frail orbit
problem is it kinda requires a lot of people
the jordine one is really empty
because jordine started out with the BDO-EU server
but a lot of the other guilds rejected it from other BDO servers and made their own discord servers
i think they didn't like that it was ran by Jordine guilds
and as such, Jordine is stuck with the manual system on BDOEU
frail orbit
@bleak pike you have a sorc right?
i got a ridiculously lucky roll on a Kzarka Amulet, 97mil
aaaaand then decided i'd rather focus on my valk
bleak pike
gg
bleak pike
@frail orbit kek failed tri
frail orbit
rip
i just had a 2.5hr node war
most fun i've had on BDO in ages @bleak pike
played it really tactically, 3 guilds so we played the other two off against each other
bleak pike
bleak pike
@frail orbit im back to duo now le cry
orchid prism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVHw5Hcat9s
The pod bay doors HAL!
signal wharf
Neat tech implemented here for true first person games: https://youtu.be/_7GG0y8Jmcs?t=12m3s
bleak pike
@frail orbit when you drop from 80m to 16m ๐ญ
@signal wharf ayyy they used smarter everyday
frail orbit
what did you buy @bleak pike ?
signal wharf
@bleak pike Yeah, i'm a big fan of Smarter Everyday
frail orbit
you not saving money for boss gear day?
frail orbit
i'm working on 2 pieces atm, kutum and muskan's
then just Hebe to go and i'm full boss armour
bleak pike
@willow quiver we finally decided to get a node
orchid prism
toxic hill
@orchid prism Rofl
frail orbit
@bleak pike did you win?
bleak pike
Ye
We had a 2 hour war today also.... We got so bored and walked away... Number 2 and number 4 best best guild kept slapping each other and just not paying attention to us... We went for a castle... We didn't die or anything, we just got really bored.
Lmao
frail orbit
@bleak pike you'll be happy to know your guild's namesake on Jordine seems to be disbanding too
bleak pike
Too? Whatcha saying bitcho
bleak pike
Somewhere near helms
blazing zodiac
Anyone already tried Battle Carnival?
The game looks like mix of Overwatch and CS
orchid prism
That sounds so unfun
blazing zodiac
Dunno. Open alfa started like a 12 hours ago
Some people say it's like PoimtBlank 2
orchid prism
"We hope it sucks less this time." ~EA CEO
orchid prism
It had so little content - And you were basically just killing bots half the time trying to get back into a mech. It was a mess.
blazing zodiac
It was funny mess. IMO bots made maps more alive.
It was a good game (with its own flaws). And I'm really glad they made second game
And no more shield regen on titan
orchid prism
I'm just glad I skipped it after the beta. It died out in a month or so from what I understand. I am SO done with these Ubi/EA "one variant every year" models.
blazing zodiac
Yeah. Unfortunately it died really fast
bleak pike
i loved ttitanfall 1
blazing zodiac
@bleak pike going to buy titanfall 2?
bleak pike
@blazing zodiac probsbly but not right away
blazing zodiac
@bleak pike Awesome. Maybe we will play together one day.
blazing zodiac
bleak pike
@blazing zodiac impresive.
blazing zodiac
Yeah. They are just keep increasing hype level.
bleak pike
@blazing zodiac this may well be the next Halo type game to be honest... I mean ye its different in a lot of way but the vibe itself is simlar
blazing zodiac
CM there switched from Halo game (486 or something) to Respawn team.
bleak pike
Ohhh
toxic hill
Linux or bust ๐
bleak pike
that would be great
orchid prism
bleak pike
@frail orbit dat sweefx
orchid prism
If anyone's as interested in Tycoon style games, this might be for you. :)
There's a playable alpha - It's very Transport Tycoon like.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dapperpenguinstudio/project-automata-a-world-of-industry-awaits
short sorrel
@bleak pike normally i never go 'omg.. drop dead amazing'
But that char
I want her
@orchid prism The creator of that literally posted that only 30 or so minutes ago lol
In the game dev league
orchid prism
I wouldn't be surprised. I've been hanging out in their discord for a few weeks. ๐
I was the first backer, heh.
orchid prism
That's entirely fair. I'm a huge tycoon player. ^_^
short sorrel
I remember back in the day, i loyed playing theme park tycoon on the PS1 and that Jurassic Park tycoon game on PS2
Fucking loved tohse games
I would love for a revival of that Jurassic Park one though
Not even Jurassic Park branded, but an indie game that pulls it off would be great
orchid prism
Mhmm ๐
short sorrel
Of course, you know the lawsuits would follow
@short sorrel better textures
short sorrel
Nah
Now its over that threshold of teh textures are so high res they start to make the blockyness more noticible
short sorrel
Yee
blazing zodiac
hallow verge
tekken 7 is going to be brutal
orchid prism
Mafia 3 is locked at 30FPS. ๐
blazing zodiac
@orchid prism Really? I wanted to buy it but at last second I thought "Meh" and didn't bought it
orchid prism
Yep really. Hackers might be able to remove the lock, but as we all know changing FPS in games that rely on 30 tend to be... unstable. So time will tell.
blazing zodiac
Omg. Now I glad I saved my money.
Can anyone reach EA chat support?
I tried but it's in infinite loading
short sorrel
@orchid prism @blazing zodiac https://mafiagame.com/en/news/view/en-mafia-3-a-message-to-our-pc-players/
No need for hackers
They are working on patch right out the door
Unlike some devs who just say 'get fucked' (DR3..)
blazing zodiac
I won't buy it anyway. No support for re-order exclusives from me.
orchid prism
Yeah I saw the patchnotes earlier today. Kudos for doing that - Boo for not being up front about it beforehand. Deus Ex managed the lack of DX12 fine by being up front about needing to postpone it for a few weeks to ensure it worked.
Mafia just quietly released like it was.
short sorrel
Well
30fps cap removal is not as big a deal as DX12
Hence why they have a patch up so early
orchid prism
It can be - depending on how much of your engine is actually tied directly to framerate.
short sorrel
DX12 basically requires a full rewrite of the engines rewrite
Well not full
But def most
orchid prism
Source anyone? Bethesda anyone?
orchid prism
... The engine named source ya dunce ๐
short sorrel
Ah
lol
Yeah Bethesdas is weird
Most modern engines i know of update the simulation in a fixed timesetp that is decoupled from the render timestep
Source makes sense a bit as the engine was built way back when, and they are actively working on Srouce 2
orchid prism
If you look at LPs of Halflife 2, you notice a lot of FPS required glitches and exploits. Can't do those below the predefined limitations.
There's also that puzzle game where you're an android. So many jumps are +200 +400 fps specific.
short sorrel
Creation engine is not that old, yet they still rolled the coupled sim-to-frame setup
Imagine my wtf when i disabled VSync in the nvidia control panel
orchid prism
Chances are they were working on 60fps support for release, but couldn't finish it in time - which is fine. But they chose to keep it quiet, which is just bad business.
short sorrel
WHY AM I RUNNING AS FAST AS FLASH
WHY ARENT DOORS WORKING
WTF IS THIS
What i think is that its 30fps on release because its the usual console port
Which isnt bad
Which is why i often find it funny when people attack console ports, when its no dif than porting from windows to linux or Mac or vice versa
orchid prism
Not quite...anymore anyway. Both consoles are basically PC hardware.
short sorrel
Yes and no
orchid prism
Back in the pre PS4/XB1 days? Definitely.
short sorrel
Yes as in the processing is x86 and not snowflake
orchid prism
How Sony convinced anyone to develop on Cell is beyond me. So many horror stories ๐
short sorrel
No as in consoles have unified memory and direct thread management
Going from unified memory setup to PC without actually putting the work in to properly optimize graphic tasks to use the actual GPU and GPU memory for graphical tasks and the obvious for the CPU means OMG WHY THE FUCK IS THIS RUNNING AT 20FPS DAMN CONSOLE PORT
Plus theres always the case of teh developers just being lazy with making their code nicely decoupled and portable even if there are no plans to port to PC.
If the engine winds up being a bunch of spaghetti hacked together to work well on one platform, trying to go to another will require even more spaghetti and hacks just to get the damn thing to run
These are those bad ports lol, you would be amazed how easy it is to port something to any other platform so long as the code base and core systems are architected well.
orchid prism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR3HFEeC3_E
"Please don't play Hanzo" Well he sure showed them.
bleak pike
I don't get it
hallow verge
anyone played mafia III?
orchid prism
Still downloading it. It sounds pretty bad to be honest - even ignoring the 30fps drama
from what I hear they basically turned it into an Assassin's Creed style game with lots of creeping and cover. Instead of the rootin tootin tommygun shootin' experience that 2 was.
Also the story is so conflicting.
hallow verge
Well they fixed the 30fps issue for pc. Kinda a shame that it turned in an ac game.
orchid prism
It's still shoddily optimized :(
I can't even get a decently consistent 60fps on an RX480. I saw dips going well below 20-30 while driving downtown during the first intro mission.
Of course the 2000s era 512x512 textures don't quite impress either. Hard to tell where all of those frames are going tbh.
Doesn't help that 20GB of the game is actually just translations. Pirated leaks are so tiny compared to the Steam copy.
bleak pike
@frail orbit i got bored of waiting for my rangers awakening so i decided to get from 30-56 last night on my sorc who was just an energy bank xD
blazing zodiac
Anyone going to play BF1 on 13 (ea access)?
orchid prism
No time. ๐ฆ
And...I honestly don't see myself giving EA another dime. They keep doing it over and over again. Yearly titles with a season pass.
Oh and you have to RENT servers for BF1 - straight from EA.
blazing zodiac
You don't have to rent a server. You can play on EA's server xD
Well, I hope that it means they will do something with cheaters
Now they have full control of the servers
orchid prism
... you have to rent a server if you want your own server. So.. yeah... you do.
Remember the days when you could host your own servers with your own rules and mods? Pepperidge Farms does.
blazing zodiac
Remember LAN parties when you had to bring your PC? Best ping ever.
orchid prism
What about them? I still attend a handful or more of those every year.
blazing zodiac
Lets not start another server war. BF1 forum full of it
orchid prism
Anyway - Suffice to say I won't be touching BF1 again short of being told to review it.
Beta was fun - But it wasn't 60โฌ plus a 40โฌ? season pass fun.
blazing zodiac
And I missed the beta ๐ฆ
bleak pike
"Remember" implying they aren't a thing.... the only reason they were a hbigger thing back then was because lack of "online" support ๐ it feels cheezy calling it lan when playing over a connection these days
@orchid prism http://www.cdkeys.com/pc/games/battlefield-1-pc-origin
orchid prism
LANs are about sitting in a room playing together - not being offline ๐
45$ is 45$ too many ^_^
blazing zodiac
Lan is local area network. It mean have 2 or more playing devices (PC or consoles). Split screen is not lan
And you are not playing lan in the internet
orchid prism
Never go full retard.
LAN parties as a concept trancend the technical term. Always has.
blazing zodiac
Max lan distance is something about 100m
orchid prism
The maximum signal length of a Cat 5 cable doesn't mean jack in this context. And even so, that's for a single cable. Hubs, switches and routers extended that indefinitely. Otherwise we wouldn't have this thing called the internet ๐
blazing zodiac
In that cases there are better solutions
orchid prism
Those are literally the solutions, Ashy. Have you ever worked in Networking? ๐
blazing zodiac
It is just stupid to have a lan cable and a router every 100 meters
orchid prism
Point remains - LANs have always relied on Internet for both downloads and player connectivity. Perfectly normal to have 64 servers where at least a portion are online connected.
And that'd be why we developed later Cat versions. ๐
orchid prism
Stop confusing the technical term with the concept of a LAN party. Two entirely different things...
blazing zodiac
How it is? LAN party (like quake lan party) is a bunch of PC connected together. And you need to bring your own pc/laptop on that event
orchid prism
Your point being? You've always had internet at those events.
blazing zodiac
Nope
orchid prism
Yup.
blazing zodiac
Well, not in childhood
orchid prism
Your childhood must have sucked then.
blazing zodiac
Nope. it was fun.
orchid prism
You'd be SOL the second ten people suddenly need a driver to play. Or to download a patch for a game to ensure everyone's on the same version.
blazing zodiac
We had a special places for that lan games like cs or quake
orchid prism
Even back in the 56k baud days, we always ensured having at least a megabit connection to serve downloads.
blazing zodiac
Internet on 90- early 00 wasn't a common thing in my city
So we had pure lan parties
Without any internet connection
orchid prism
Sucks to have been you I guess.
blazing zodiac
No it is not
orchid prism
Still doesn't change the fact that having internet access at a LAN does not make it a non-LAN though. Which I do believe was the actual topic of discussion.
blazing zodiac
Of course it is not. Most (or all) lans connected to the internet nowdays
But you don't need an internet connection to make lan. I guess that was the topic.
orchid prism
Well you do now - And have needed to do so since the death of the optical drive.
blazing zodiac
Even now it is not mandatory. It just makes life easier.
orchid prism
It is mandatory for a LOT of games.
blazing zodiac
You know, you can use one PC as a repository and ensure all have the same version
orchid prism
Use Steamworks based mods? That's another Lot of games on top.
No shit? I never knew - I guess the 8TB of games I have on my NAS don't actually exist :P
Doesn't work like that in the days of always online DRM however.
blazing zodiac
Ok, all began with if you two sitting in the same room but connected via internet - it is not a lan.
orchid prism
Still a LAN. Heh
orchid prism
Plenty of online DRM games support LAN. And yes - It is.
blazing zodiac
If you connected by a cable (PC to PC) - it is a lan.
orchid prism
No. If you happen to be on the same LAN, you're on the same LAN. You're confusing LAN with a crossover cable. Or going back further, serial direct cables ๐
blazing zodiac
Ok, lets say in that way. If you will turn internet off and still will be able to play together - it is lan
If not - it is not a lan
orchid prism
See? This is why I enjoy being pedantic. People use terms far too losely and get flak for it. You never said anything about the server/client connection.
You said that if there was internet involved it wasn't a LAN.
Anyway - I tire of this.
blazing zodiac
Yes, if you play via the internet - it is not a lan
orchid prism
Just stop before you hurt yourself, Ashy. ๐
orchid prism
No - I refuse to acknowledge your vague arguments. It all depends on the client/server connection. Which you seem to keep forgetting about.
A LAN is not just a LAN.
blazing zodiac
Well, if it was a surprise to you that you can play without internet... idk
Lan is just a lan. Connect bunch of PC and you will be able to play some games without internet
orchid prism
Do you know what a subnet is? A Class C network? Do you know how to calculate an address space? I do actually happen to have several CISCO courses, as well as about fifteen years as a networks admin. ๐
blazing zodiac
It is a local network
orchid prism
So yeah - Just stop before you hurt yourself ๐
blazing zodiac
Yes except of cisco
It is just too expensive
Especially for student
And IMO it isn't worth the money they are asking for it
Well, and not 15 years network admin
I'm not that old
orchid prism
Oh no... it only happens to be mandatory by almost every major corporation that hires network engineers. Not worth the money at all...heh...hehe
blazing zodiac
Not in my country
orchid prism
Considering how yoru city didn't have internet either... I am somehow not surprised at that developent. ๐
blazing zodiac
In my country if you have skill and knowledge but don't have useless paper you still can get a job
orchid prism
But I digress. Gotta go.
blazing zodiac
cy
blazing zodiac
bleak pike
@orchid prism https://youtu.be/r3tdhY0B5Gs i really hope this will be great like the CN version -_- MMORPG market is shit atm but i really like rev
@frail orbit this is taking the piss now... i came home early for it http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/115450-maintenance-extendedmaintenance-october-12th/
bleak pike
i came home so i couild do it -_-
bleak pike
@frail orbit have you tried the new patch? im crying of laughter
frail orbit
everything is so fucking broken!
bleak pike
@frail orbit
frail orbit
๐
bleak pike
Can't believe they extended the emergency patch -_-
bleak pike
@frail orbit im not impressed with ranger awakening i must say
bleak pike
blazing zodiac
bleak pike
@frail orbit you loving your new rednose? ./sigh
frail orbit
i'm not actually complaining @bleak pike - it completes my boss gear set and the extra +100 SP will give me more damage on SoJ
bleak pike
ye well its useless to me
short sorrel
Tfw your team is getting rolled and every 'acceptable' change you make isnt doing shit, so you say fuck da police and go Widow and you dead stop the enemy team and carry the entire attack phase
bleak pike
http://i.imgur.com/HOILdGT.png priceless
frail orbit
๐
bleak pike
@frail orbit got my first belt.... i finally decided to go for world bosses as my awakening is perfect for it.
bleak pike
Like seriously... i haven't bothered sincee launch because of shit loot... thought yolo ill do it today, happens i got liverto from red nose and belt from tree.
feels good man ๐ถ
hallow verge
๐ฎ
bleak pike
#NegativeKarmaLife
hallow verge
who is hyped for dishonored 2?
orchid prism
Never managed to get through the first one. The game kept guilt tripping me into restarting due to kills. ๐ฆ
hallow verge
๐
orchid prism
Personal rant: Why the heck would you design an RGB product and limit it to a handful of colours.
Is a USB port that expensive? ๐ฆ
(Reviewing "RGB" casefans with only 7 colours in total)
hallow verge
I don't think its to expansive
they need to make firmware, maybe inexperienced with it and it takes up an USB slot
are users happy with it?
orchid prism
They're charging 110โฌ for a kit with a 6fan controller piece and 3 fans. You tell me if that sounds like a good deal when you'er not even getting RGB.
One of their competitors did exactly that - USB connection to allow for software to control the fans. ๐
My biggest gripe is that the colours they've chosen aren't even that covering. It's missing some fairly common shades of yellow and green. So you're likely to end up with a case that doesn't match the fans.
bleak pike
I like DH but it drags dialouge
hallow verge
I love it
blazing zodiac
Nothing to worry about. XBOX have play anywhere feature.
So you can buy it in Microsoft store and play it on PC
At least I hope for it
Red Dead Disapointed! - loled so much
orchid prism
Are you kidding me? Well that's the last time I buy a Rockstar game then.
WHY WHY WHY
bleak pike
@orchid prism @robust sedge they are taking the gta v approach to make double profits....
orchid prism
They had better. I'm not buying another console for that series ๐
bleak pike
lel people are hoping for Xbox Play Anywhere
robust sedge
Wouldn't they have to support PC to support play anywhere
blazing zodiac
I think it's up to microsoft
blazing zodiac
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