Osto-Ayak (Doom of Mokhaiotl) | IronScape | Page 8

elfin flax Jul 31, 2025, 11:27 AM

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i tend to stand diagonal +1 cardinal behind

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so in the screeny id go 2 squares south (whatever orientation is in the pic)

keen rapids Jul 31, 2025, 11:34 AM

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little L movement

craggy cobalt Jul 31, 2025, 11:50 AM

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so it gnome's latest video, he mentions a mechanic I haven't heard about which is extra damage on your first hit after shield phase, the amount of damage depending on how long shield phase took

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is that actually real? I've never noticed it and it feels backwards for how the damage scales if so

sturdy smelt Jul 31, 2025, 11:50 AM

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isnt that how he got the clip of hitting like 400

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by making shield phase last ages

craggy cobalt Jul 31, 2025, 11:51 AM

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im ootl

sturdy smelt Jul 31, 2025, 11:51 AM

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keen rapids Jul 31, 2025, 11:52 AM

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that got patched but ye i think it's capped at 50 now or something

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still probably worth doing for a first wave 8 clear etc

craggy cobalt Jul 31, 2025, 11:53 AM

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huh, what increases the damage? just time? number of hitsplats on the boss?

keen rapids Jul 31, 2025, 11:53 AM

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time i believe

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although not sure how you'd tell that apart from hitsplats

proven owl Jul 31, 2025, 11:54 AM

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dunno if anyone has done enough testing to know if its some weird formula with time/number of grubs dead/hitsplats etc

craggy cobalt Jul 31, 2025, 11:55 AM

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I kinda hate the design of that tbh

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it's completely backwards

night zephyr Jul 31, 2025, 11:55 AM

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It's just time

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HCIM technique truly.

proven owl Jul 31, 2025, 11:56 AM

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it's pretty bad design even at 50 damage, encouraging afking if you aren't confident at trees + boulders

craggy cobalt Jul 31, 2025, 11:56 AM

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yeah bonus damage should be rewarded for doing mechanics faster, not slower

proven owl Jul 31, 2025, 11:57 AM

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the one bonus is that it doesnt feel as bad to afk for 10% spec if my zcb isnt up for whatever reason

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since i know ill be getting +50 dmg

night zephyr Jul 31, 2025, 11:57 AM

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Makes sense to do it as a HCIM, but thats it IMO.

proven owl Jul 31, 2025, 11:58 AM

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i guess you could argue that it's there to encourage taking a bit of a break too to brew up etc

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they do say they like to design fights with breaks in them

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so it's not always 100% focus

craggy cobalt Jul 31, 2025, 12:03 PM

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shield phase is already an encouragement to brew because your damage to the shield is rarely relevant

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but you shouldn't be rewarded for basically afking spec

sturdy smelt Jul 31, 2025, 12:11 PM

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End of each wave is enough of a break Nodders

plucky turret Jul 31, 2025, 12:18 PM

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isnt wasting your own time enough of a punishment i dont get it

burnt lichen Jul 31, 2025, 12:40 PM

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lmfao boaty's title

stuck cape Jul 31, 2025, 1:01 PM

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its literally 1 damage every 4 ticks

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if someone is actually going to afk for 2 minutes to get 50 damage, who cares

night zephyr Jul 31, 2025, 1:09 PM

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stuck cape if someone is actually going to afk for 2 minutes to get 50 damage, who cares

I don't think we are saying it's an issue/care about the people doing it.

Just that it's a bad mechanic.

stuck cape Jul 31, 2025, 1:10 PM

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fair, yeah it should reward you going fast

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could flip the mechanic, 50 dmg and it goes down the longer it takes or something

craggy cobalt Jul 31, 2025, 1:24 PM

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I know it's a skill issue, but everytime I bring BP to try and use it to 3t tbow my brain turns to mush and I end up tanking so much damage and letting so many grubs in

desert thorn Jul 31, 2025, 1:40 PM

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Whats a 3t tbow sir

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Bp grub tbow Boss makes It 3t?

burnt lichen Jul 31, 2025, 1:41 PM

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yea

desert thorn Jul 31, 2025, 1:41 PM

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Sounds sweaty

craggy cobalt Jul 31, 2025, 1:55 PM

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It's super awesome when you do it right but it's hard to execute for sure

burnt lichen Jul 31, 2025, 2:14 PM

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infernalhmmm

fickle bobcat Jul 31, 2025, 2:25 PM

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the hole pushed me out of bounds

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great

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theres surely a unique in there that i cant even claim

burnt lichen Jul 31, 2025, 2:29 PM

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skeesh

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can u move at all

fickle bobcat Jul 31, 2025, 2:33 PM

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no sir

celest robin Jul 31, 2025, 2:37 PM

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fickle bobcat the hole pushed me out of bounds

ivory ravine Jul 31, 2025, 3:07 PM

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Do people use ralos if no tbow/zcb?

proven owl Jul 31, 2025, 3:09 PM

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ralos probably sucks considering all the 100% accuracy u get

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d knives, chally and bp are the options ive seen

ivory ravine Jul 31, 2025, 3:15 PM

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Feel like 1-4 is so slow without

verbal edge Jul 31, 2025, 3:21 PM

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ralos is probably decent 1-4 since there's no car

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definitely not for 5+ though

normal willow Jul 31, 2025, 3:32 PM

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1k

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i think my problem is that i keep going past delve 6

dense ginkgo Jul 31, 2025, 3:47 PM

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proven owl the one bonus is that it doesnt feel as bad to afk for 10% spec if my zcb isnt u...

Sometimes it's 40% because of death charge cooldown which could make or break a second BP spec for me lol

keen rapids Jul 31, 2025, 4:12 PM

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disagree that shield should give you bonus damage for going faster instead of slower

it's kinda neat that you can opt for a slower overall kill in favor of getting through the hard mechanic a little faster

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speedrunners will of course go for the fast grub killing way

wispy knot Jul 31, 2025, 4:53 PM

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I've heard deliberately shield stalling for minutes on end to oneshot might be bannable

stuck cape Jul 31, 2025, 4:56 PM

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They removed it , so that’s troll

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The max you can stalll is 2 minutes to hit a 50

dense ginkgo Jul 31, 2025, 5:18 PM

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yeah and it's not like it's 50 vs 0

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you're basically getting the damage of one extra hit in

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not nothing but it's so minor

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ask any of the wow refugees about Mythic Iskar kekdoge

placid vortex Jul 31, 2025, 5:50 PM

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Is ancient godsword tech or trolling? Rn I’m using chally

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Or maybe sgs is better

proven owl Jul 31, 2025, 5:59 PM

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i think the 25 hit would hit the shield quite often making it pretty bad

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dmg during that phase isnt very valuable

craggy cobalt Jul 31, 2025, 6:14 PM

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Chally is an expected like 85 damage on a spec for punish, and all of that goes to health bar which is good

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If you need small heals BP spec car is probably better than AnGS and definitely better than SGS

placid vortex Jul 31, 2025, 6:20 PM

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Ty

night zephyr Jul 31, 2025, 7:07 PM

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If you have excess spec and need HP pre car, you can also BP spec trees and/or grubs. You just have to do 2 BP hits on a grub and spec on the last hit.

placid vortex Jul 31, 2025, 7:29 PM

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Wouldn’t that just give 1hp?

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I’ve never tried

craggy cobalt Jul 31, 2025, 7:38 PM

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Just did a delve 8 with a melee only setup, very goofy but had some cool moments

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100 damage added to a 100% accurate claw spec is very funny

night zephyr Jul 31, 2025, 7:46 PM

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placid vortex I’ve never tried

It only gives 1 hp if you do it on the first hit of the grub since that is capped at 1. For some reason if the grub is already 1 HP you can still get a max heal.

placid vortex Jul 31, 2025, 7:50 PM

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Wacky

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Ty

nimble crest Jul 31, 2025, 8:36 PM

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melee delve 8 is gonna be fun 😄

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cant wait for that ca

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melee delve 8 no acid damage

elfin flax Jul 31, 2025, 8:37 PM

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gotta do perfect no unavoidable damage kills all the way to 8

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get to 8 and it keeps spawning triple melee grubs on the poison ragged side

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now thats a CA

nimble crest Jul 31, 2025, 8:39 PM

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idt perfect is bad

burnt lichen Jul 31, 2025, 8:41 PM

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they said they are combining the 3 grubs into 1

stuck cape Jul 31, 2025, 8:52 PM

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craggy cobalt Chally is an expected like 85 damage on a spec for punish, and all of that goes ...

I dropped chally recently for Nox hally, I like having spec for bp when I need it, and not having to spec for the punish

normal willow Jul 31, 2025, 9:02 PM

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lobter

dense ginkgo Jul 31, 2025, 9:03 PM

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yeah that's true

opal lark Jul 31, 2025, 9:17 PM

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Just started learning, do I bring maccas and darklight if no scythe or just one of them? Have ZCB so dunno if chally worth

keen rapids Jul 31, 2025, 9:26 PM

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maccas good from what ive seen

sudden lotus Jul 31, 2025, 9:31 PM

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do maccas work on grub shield for interrupt purposes, or is darklight needed as well?

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I started off bringin darklight + chally(for melee shield interrupt) but wouldnt mind just having a single melee option if that works on the boss too

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could maybe do bclaws since they're demonbane?

night zephyr Jul 31, 2025, 9:46 PM

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You would just scobo that shield

opal sparrow Jul 31, 2025, 9:46 PM

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U need demonbane

keen rapids Jul 31, 2025, 9:46 PM

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you need demonbane for the shield and any melee for the protection prayer but multi hit works best

opal sparrow Jul 31, 2025, 9:47 PM

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opal lark Just started learning, do I bring maccas and darklight if no scythe or just one ...

people take both zcb chally its only 30% spec

keen rapids Jul 31, 2025, 9:47 PM

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chally feels kinda mid compared to scythe

stuck cape Jul 31, 2025, 9:47 PM

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I would not bother w chally if you have zcb, you don’t really care about dmg during the melee punish

night zephyr Jul 31, 2025, 9:47 PM

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Id just maccas or nox hally if you have zcb

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Obv scythe better if you have

nimble crest Jul 31, 2025, 10:06 PM

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not a chally fan either

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1 extra click could mess u up on f8

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rather heal with bp

north axle Jul 31, 2025, 10:10 PM

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Out of knives?

nimble crest Jul 31, 2025, 10:10 PM

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yeah

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its w.e, getting more trees but thats comfy to deal with

night zephyr Jul 31, 2025, 10:12 PM

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nimble crest 1 extra click could mess u up on f8

You are afking waiting for boulders to proc anyway. Doesn't really take much brainpower to also click special attack orb.

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Plus you build up the muscle memory doing it on every punish hit

nimble crest Jul 31, 2025, 10:13 PM

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its all fun n games until u add leeches

night zephyr Jul 31, 2025, 10:21 PM

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Usually ignore if you get them during boulders anyway regardless of chally or not

nimble crest Jul 31, 2025, 10:27 PM

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unless it will kill me or likely will make me take 20+ dmg i always go for leeches

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idk the expected damage on a chally but scy 1 way does like 60 dmg anyway

night zephyr Jul 31, 2025, 10:39 PM

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nimble crest idk the expected damage on a chally but scy 1 way does like 60 dmg anyway

Oh if you have a scythe I don't think theres any reason to take chally.

I thought the people above didnt have scythes

north axle Jul 31, 2025, 11:20 PM

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i prefer chally over scy on 8+

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but i might just sub it out for a nally tbh

iron mortar Jul 31, 2025, 11:49 PM

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Pref hally over scythe aswell. If u get melee pun, its alot easier to do with hally over scythe. Less brainpower

night zephyr Aug 1, 2025, 12:57 AM

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chally/nhally makes sense if your delving deeep working with limited acid space

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its also nice that you dont have to step back after punishing to prevent melee hit

north axle Aug 1, 2025, 1:02 AM

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@signal cipher

placid vortex Aug 1, 2025, 1:02 AM

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is there a way to tell if its the shield charging up vs the melee punish?

compact shuttle Aug 1, 2025, 1:03 AM

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placid vortex is there a way to tell if its the shield charging up vs the melee punish?

you can make the shield phase a different color with npc highlight

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might need to be better npc highlight, not sure

placid vortex Aug 1, 2025, 1:04 AM

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ty

verbal edge Aug 1, 2025, 1:15 AM

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melee punish has protection prayers

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the other shield doesnt

keen rapids Aug 1, 2025, 2:08 AM

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shield has a blue bar and melee punish has an overhead prayer

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oh i was scrolled up

tawny kelp Aug 1, 2025, 3:46 AM

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placid vortex is there a way to tell if its the shield charging up vs the melee punish?

you can put it in better npc highlight by name even:

buoyant rose Aug 1, 2025, 7:18 AM

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what's the exact timer on the trees? it feels random at times

dense ginkgo Aug 1, 2025, 7:41 AM

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20 ticks

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You can set visual metronome to 20

leaden vault Aug 1, 2025, 8:00 AM

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is it 20 ticks on all delves?

clear edge Aug 1, 2025, 8:01 AM

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yep

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good rule of thumb that I use is that i can do 3 scobo shots (and shoot the trees)

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could fit 4 in theory but i dont see it as worth

opal lark Aug 1, 2025, 9:19 AM

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Wiki lists nox hally as a better punish than maccas, can anyone verify?

plucky turret Aug 1, 2025, 9:20 AM

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maccas prob better if you start adding str bonus?

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otherwise doesnt really matter it looks like halberd prob a bit comfier in regards to positioning

stuck cape Aug 1, 2025, 9:42 AM

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Nox halberd poisons boss some of the time , and makes 1 less acid splat as well

proven owl Aug 1, 2025, 9:53 AM

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placid vortex Is ancient godsword tech or trolling? Rn I’m using chally

actually if acgs > sgs during shield phase then its posssible its tech

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and you ignore the damage part, using it just to delve deeper

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right now im more inclined to believing you still want to go fast if you have zcb but if w8 is better than w4 maybe u ignore dps

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i feel like sgs gives more healing/prayer than acgs but i can't say ive ever tested

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maybe being guaranteed has some value

nimble crest Aug 1, 2025, 10:13 AM

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ancient godsword is good for deep delves

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25 guaranteed hp on shield

proven owl Aug 1, 2025, 10:15 AM

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but how much is sgs on average

nimble crest Aug 1, 2025, 10:15 AM

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I dont think its gonna be very good because you dont guarantee max

proven owl Aug 1, 2025, 10:16 AM

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both the prayer and hp are valuable so ud have to calc it but ye if acgs saves more "invent space" in terms of brews and restore and if w8 is better than w4

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then i think acgs might be better than zcb

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kinda curious how much dps acgs is on nascar, you should have time to spec once at least

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but ud be missing out on bping the grub

deep oar Aug 1, 2025, 10:40 AM

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rec brings acgs and zcb

proven owl Aug 1, 2025, 10:49 AM

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actually you wont have any melee gear so sgs prob does suck

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ye i think if w4 = w8 for uniques then zcb and just use brews and if w8 > w4 then acgs and go for w30+

stuck cape Aug 1, 2025, 11:19 AM

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I’m guessing it’s like 1/500 at w4 and 1/400 at w8

placid vortex Aug 1, 2025, 11:47 AM

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I’m so honored you guys think I’m going for giga deep delves when in reality I’m dying to w7 😭😭

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Knowing the melee has protection prays was a massive help, I didn’t get hit by the insta often but it was definitely stressful lol

minor tartan Aug 1, 2025, 11:55 AM

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When going past 8 does anyone have good strategy for dealing with acid? I feel like I usually claim at 9 or 10 just because I feel like there is too much acid to deal with melee grubs.

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I’m not sure if it’s because I’m ending him in a bad spot post car phase but I try to leave him where the acid just goes into the wall but it feels so dependent on where rocks fall.

stuck cape Aug 1, 2025, 12:08 PM

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minor tartan When going past 8 does anyone have good strategy for dealing with acid? I feel l...

Don’t thrall w6+ until car phase, drink antivenom

night zephyr Aug 1, 2025, 12:24 PM

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So did I get meleed during stomps or something?

burnt lichen Aug 1, 2025, 12:28 PM

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you can get meleed right when the stomps are over

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but nobody can tell from a screenshot like that

night zephyr Aug 1, 2025, 12:29 PM

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Would you be able to say it wasn't stomp damage? I'm pretty sure I never left the orb.

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I think that's the last stomp too

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My replay buffer is not working. Enabled it specifically to see how I died to jank at this boss.

burnt lichen Aug 1, 2025, 12:40 PM

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i record my gameplay with OBS

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dont need a replay buffer then, can just continuously record

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could have been stomp daamge

night zephyr Aug 1, 2025, 12:41 PM

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Yeah I haven't gotten around to reinstalling OBS.

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How many ticks delayed is the stomp hitsplat?

nimble crest Aug 1, 2025, 12:46 PM

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that orb is jank af i try to be 115 before going into it

craggy cobalt Aug 1, 2025, 12:47 PM

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They reduced orb jank a lot last week

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As long as you're in it every other tick you're safe

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Highly recommend entity hiding the orb itself though, and reducing the opacity on the fill color so you have more clarity on your screen

night zephyr Aug 1, 2025, 12:48 PM

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I really don't recall leaving the orb at all let alone for more than 1 tick. Gonna say I got meleed and move on

night zephyr Aug 1, 2025, 12:49 PM

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craggy cobalt Highly recommend entity hiding the orb itself though, and reducing the opacity o...

How do you entity hide the orb? That sounds helpful

craggy cobalt Aug 1, 2025, 12:49 PM

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night zephyr How do you entity hide the orb? That sounds helpful

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last ID in the entity hider slot does it

night zephyr Aug 1, 2025, 12:54 PM

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Thank you

craggy cobalt Aug 1, 2025, 1:08 PM

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Melee Doom is actually so fun, but there are two super glaring bugs I hope they fix next week

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The first is the already known bug where if you proc the prayer punish 1-2t after it starts you chance getting ranged/maged on the same tick. But also, if he puts up the prayer punish on the same tick your attack comes out, it instantly pops it but doesn't give you the bonus damage

night zephyr Aug 1, 2025, 1:13 PM

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Interesting. I feel like they aren't even aware of that 2nd bug.

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Melee would seem fun if you had scythe, but doesn't really seem worth it without.

craggy cobalt Aug 1, 2025, 1:14 PM

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Yeah I don't think it's worth it at all even with scythe

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but it is fun to try

night zephyr Aug 1, 2025, 1:15 PM

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I could see it being efficient to melee if you have scythe but no tbow

craggy cobalt Aug 1, 2025, 1:17 PM

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I reported the 2nd bug, hopefully it gets fixed because that is a huge strength of the melee setup

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Scythe just gets a free 87 damage added

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Not a bad time for playing extremely suboptimally

dense ginkgo Aug 1, 2025, 1:33 PM

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Melee only outside of grubs (and maybe car?) CA hmmsire

craggy cobalt Aug 1, 2025, 1:35 PM

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I hope so. It is definitely horrible for deep delving, you spawn infinity acid with scythe, and dodging car damage is nearly impossible (but doable!), and the prayer punish getting eaten 50% of the time without bonus damage is really annoying

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but if they fix the bugs it will be super good for 1-7/1-8 resets

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Pog

burnt lichen Aug 1, 2025, 1:46 PM

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uhh

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are my eyes crossed whats going on there lol

craggy cobalt Aug 1, 2025, 1:47 PM

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I used the extended hitsplats plugin to show a claw spec punish on melee doom

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extra 100 damage is very cool

burnt lichen Aug 1, 2025, 1:52 PM

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do you always get the top damage case with claw spec?

night zephyr Aug 1, 2025, 1:52 PM

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184 claw spec is awesome lol

craggy cobalt Aug 1, 2025, 1:53 PM

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burnt lichen do you always get the top damage case with claw spec?

You always get the 4x25s, and it's 100% accuracy so you get a decent raw damage hit

burnt lichen Aug 1, 2025, 1:53 PM

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does that mean always top damage case

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like what the horn would have been

craggy cobalt Aug 1, 2025, 1:53 PM

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Uh it's better than horn

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Horn only guaruntees 2nd hitsplat

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Melee punish guaruntees 1st

burnt lichen Aug 1, 2025, 1:53 PM

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by hitsplat u mean case yea

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i wonder if its possible that's better than zcb

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or like bclaws potentially

craggy cobalt Aug 1, 2025, 1:55 PM

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I think bclaws would be worse because 1 less hitsplat

nimble crest Aug 1, 2025, 1:55 PM

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dclaws would cause max acid damage wouldnt it

craggy cobalt Aug 1, 2025, 1:55 PM

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yeah melee is not a viable deep farming method

nimble crest Aug 1, 2025, 1:55 PM

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my question of interest is what is best dmg per acid splat

craggy cobalt Aug 1, 2025, 1:55 PM

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you take a ton of chip from various sources and spawn so much acid

nimble crest Aug 1, 2025, 1:56 PM

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its rly nice to get the melee punish for farming, dont wanna get stuck on consectuive boulder hell

craggy cobalt Aug 1, 2025, 1:57 PM

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I have no proof for this but there is some sort of indicator Doom is about to do the melee punish

night zephyr Aug 1, 2025, 1:57 PM

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I think chally has to be best damage per acid splat. (For punish)

craggy cobalt Aug 1, 2025, 1:57 PM

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You can tell the tick before he starts it

burnt lichen Aug 1, 2025, 1:57 PM

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ive been doing 1-7 farm so idk about acid personally

nimble crest Aug 1, 2025, 1:58 PM

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scy is just a nice balance between ease of use and good punish damage

night zephyr Aug 1, 2025, 1:58 PM

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He kind of pauses before he throwers a boulder, but I haven't been able to see a difference of boulder vs boulder + punish

burnt lichen Aug 1, 2025, 1:59 PM

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gearscape hasn't fixed claws yet, im gunna write a simulation for it

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despair

craggy cobalt Aug 1, 2025, 1:59 PM

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burnt lichen ive been doing 1-7 farm so idk about acid personally

Mind sharing your setup? I'm thinking about doing 1-7 for the rest of this week, deep delves will just get a lot easier post update

craggy cobalt Aug 1, 2025, 1:59 PM

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burnt lichen gearscape hasn't fixed claws yet, im gunna write a simulation for it

yeah this was really annoying

burnt lichen Aug 1, 2025, 2:00 PM

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craggy cobalt Mind sharing your setup? I'm thinking about doing 1-7 for the rest of this week,...

this is what ive been doing

kind sandal Aug 1, 2025, 2:01 PM

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dunno if yall noticed but the charge attack gets nulled if you attack last tick

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like it goes off but yo utake no damage now

craggy cobalt Aug 1, 2025, 2:02 PM

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burnt lichen this is what ive been doing

Hmm yeah I could see claws being a competitor to ZCB if you're bringing near max melee

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No ultor will knock a few max hits off the echos but still good I'm sure

stuck cape Aug 1, 2025, 2:04 PM

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kind sandal dunno if yall noticed but the charge attack gets nulled if you attack last tick

Does the boss heal?

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Is this a skip angle

burnt lichen Aug 1, 2025, 2:05 PM

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how is that skip angle

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doing the melee hit is beneficial

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no potion, no piety, no ultor:
scythe = 107.7 dmg
bclaws = 89.5 dmg
dclaws = 133 dmg

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infernalhmmm

craggy cobalt Aug 1, 2025, 2:12 PM

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probably not worth the specbar compared to zcb since scythe is pretty close

nimble crest Aug 1, 2025, 2:48 PM

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if i get a unflickable auto from delve during double boulders am i just melee punishing too early?

craggy cobalt Aug 1, 2025, 2:48 PM

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Yea

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Within 1t-2t of the prayers appearing does it I believe

nimble crest Aug 1, 2025, 2:51 PM

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nice, bs mechanic but at least its not rng

kind sandal Aug 1, 2025, 3:09 PM

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stuck cape Does the boss heal?

No, you just get an extra tick of clearance

north axle Aug 1, 2025, 3:33 PM

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craggy cobalt Mind sharing your setup? I'm thinking about doing 1-7 for the rest of this week,...

how will they be getting easier?

craggy cobalt Aug 1, 2025, 3:35 PM

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north axle how will they be getting easier?

Acid clearing is the big thing, more reliable water, earthen orb clears acid in the center of it. Also not having the boulder projectiles land on you in the orb too

north axle Aug 1, 2025, 3:35 PM

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oh they really are fortniting it

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those are all confirmed?

craggy cobalt Aug 1, 2025, 3:36 PM

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north axle Aug 1, 2025, 3:36 PM

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o

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havent seen this ty

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cannon excusemewhat

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is that tech

weary garden Aug 1, 2025, 3:38 PM

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Not worrying about the boulders landing on you is gonna make w8+ orb phase so much smoother

night zephyr Aug 1, 2025, 3:39 PM

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I wonder if that means they will null those rocks falling or put them outside the orb.

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Kind of makes proccing early and standing still in it as long as possible if rocks are falling meta regardless.

winter garden Aug 1, 2025, 3:51 PM

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Wow no perm rocks in the orb is kinda crazy

manic flume Aug 1, 2025, 3:55 PM

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i dont understand how one of the biggest issues on almost every PvM update it shitty clickboxes, but they still just realease new content with shitty clickboxes

coral basalt Aug 1, 2025, 4:47 PM

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craggy cobalt

was the more reliable holy water confirmed somewhere else? (or am i blind and missing it)

craggy cobalt Aug 1, 2025, 4:48 PM

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coral basalt was the more reliable holy water confirmed somewhere else? (or am i blind and mi...

I think it was confirmed somewhere else but I can't remember for sure

stuck cape Aug 1, 2025, 4:53 PM

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north axle cannon <:excusemewhat:653200573255909386>

It doesn’t shoot the boss

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Wave 12 scobo+bp pb

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I swear I have as much acid on w12 as tbow has on w20

south vine Aug 1, 2025, 5:09 PM

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i wish there was a more reliable way to clean up the acid

coral basalt Aug 1, 2025, 5:10 PM

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That's one of the things on their to-do list

north axle Aug 1, 2025, 5:25 PM

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i feel like if I had zvambs id want to do 1-7

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but without zvamb the masori off car is barely better than void

normal willow Aug 1, 2025, 5:34 PM

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think its wave 7 reset time

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im 1000% sure cloth is rarer deep

stuck cape Aug 1, 2025, 6:06 PM

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Wiki team submitted an update to Ph that’ll actually track drops, so maybe drop rates soon

craggy cobalt Aug 1, 2025, 7:04 PM

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normal willow im 1000% sure cloth is rarer deep

I'm at least certain that the reward for going far past 8 isn't that significant compared to 6/7

normal willow Aug 1, 2025, 7:19 PM

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yuuuuup

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deep delves were a scam

night zephyr Aug 1, 2025, 7:30 PM

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Unless you get a big jump in overall unique chance (which anecdotally seems like it does not), surely having 3 uniques in the pool makes gloves rarer.

celest robin Aug 1, 2025, 7:36 PM

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I'd be very surprised if going from 2 to 3 effectively halves your glove chance

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Seems far more likely that items work like Hydra and get added to a series of pre rolls

novel surge Aug 1, 2025, 7:45 PM

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LOL

kind sandal Aug 1, 2025, 7:52 PM

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We're on to you buddy inspepector

novel surge Aug 1, 2025, 7:55 PM

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the check from Oblivion bounced so it's on to the next highest bidder

north axle Aug 1, 2025, 8:03 PM

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novel surge the check from Oblivion bounced so it's on to the next highest bidder

They are gonna find out about the tbow flipping utility

novel surge Aug 1, 2025, 8:03 PM

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yeah guys time to short tbows

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they're about to get 31% more common on the wiki

north axle Aug 1, 2025, 8:03 PM

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(unironically it was a good idea)

novel surge Aug 1, 2025, 8:04 PM

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oh that's not even what you're talking about, i assumed it was related to this feedback we just got

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but yeah my tax evasion idea was a banger

north axle Aug 1, 2025, 8:04 PM

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novel surge

you might be right about not trusting us with the data science

kind sandal Aug 1, 2025, 8:07 PM

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I took data structures in college, I think I can handle it Giggle

north axle Aug 1, 2025, 8:07 PM

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I got gloves on 4 and 11 but I am kinda tempted to send 1-7s based on all the zoobs getting rares at 4-6

novel surge Aug 1, 2025, 8:07 PM

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unironically the hardest aspect of any of this crowdsourcing is understanding when you have subtle biases in the data

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like where you're under or over-reporting something due to the nature of how it's being tracked, whether you're rejecting things non-uniformly, etc

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and when you have those biases, the magnitude of the estimate error usually isn't subtle. it can fuck it up pretty badly

north axle Aug 1, 2025, 8:09 PM

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By the way, when I talked to you I got the impression that your numbers imply 5-10% of people are not claiming uniques the wave they drop

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was I correct on that?

novel surge Aug 1, 2025, 8:10 PM

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i estimated that it was about that percentage that were continuing onto further levels after already having a unique, yeah

north axle Aug 1, 2025, 8:10 PM

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Did that include pet?

novel surge Aug 1, 2025, 8:10 PM

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novel surge and when you have those biases, the magnitude of the estimate error usually isn'...

and the problem is, actually this is a really good example, that doesn't just make the errors be off by 5-10%, it can telescope into way way bigger errors

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if you're trying to, yknow, do something based on the cumulative completion counts, etc

novel surge Aug 1, 2025, 8:11 PM

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north axle Did that include pet?

uhhh no i was only looking at the main uniques

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pet was not part of that calculation at all, on either side

dense ginkgo Aug 1, 2025, 8:15 PM

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novel surge the check from Oblivion bounced so it's on to the next highest bidder

@main escarp we can beat them twice in one month let's go

main escarp Aug 1, 2025, 8:16 PM

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Hello it is I

dense ginkgo Aug 1, 2025, 8:17 PM

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the wiki admins are up for sale (clearly) (the only reasonable reason they would hide drop rates)

main escarp Aug 1, 2025, 8:18 PM

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Yeah sadly i have integrity and dont care enough to create a gear discord and let it go out of date

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Then spam advertisements and RWT out of it

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Different clan leader

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CAUGHT

novel surge Aug 1, 2025, 8:19 PM

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dense ginkgo the wiki admins are up for sale (clearly) (the only reasonable reason they would...

the funniest part of this is that we could slap a bunch of ads on the wiki and quite literally make about 5 million dollars a year

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but yes we must be merching with the drop rate data

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that is clearly the biggest hypothetical revenue stream available to me

dense ginkgo Aug 1, 2025, 8:19 PM

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clearly

main escarp Aug 1, 2025, 8:19 PM

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We have a few mutual friends

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I trust this man

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Look at this PFP

novel surge Aug 1, 2025, 8:20 PM

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that is a trustworthy face

main escarp Aug 1, 2025, 8:20 PM

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Hes gorgeous

north axle Aug 1, 2025, 8:20 PM

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main escarp Yeah sadly i have integrity and dont care enough to create a gear discord and le...

are you talking about gearcord or irongearcord

main escarp Aug 1, 2025, 8:20 PM

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north axle are you talking about gearcord or irongearcord

Both apply

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spit

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No resource discord should sell their souls for the bag.

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Look at Log Hunters

novel surge Aug 1, 2025, 8:21 PM

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did they sell out??

main escarp Aug 1, 2025, 8:21 PM

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No

novel surge Aug 1, 2025, 8:21 PM

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i must have missed this

north axle Aug 1, 2025, 8:21 PM

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oh

novel surge Aug 1, 2025, 8:21 PM

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oh ok

north axle Aug 1, 2025, 8:21 PM

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holy shit

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I figured it out

main escarp Aug 1, 2025, 8:21 PM

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I would lose my shit

north axle Aug 1, 2025, 8:21 PM

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Wiki Boosting Cord

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solves every problem

main escarp Aug 1, 2025, 8:21 PM

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novel surge did they sell out??

We would never Madeg

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Its a resource discord not an advertisement platform to ping people with

novel surge Aug 1, 2025, 8:23 PM

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i felt kinda bad because i messaged the guy that ran the clog website about this better way to get the completed clog slots in runelite

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and then he was like, oh cool, ok

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and then like 24 hours he shut the site down

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which actually sucks for me because he was like "go use the wiki's thing, it's better"

fast latch Aug 1, 2025, 8:23 PM

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so you're the reason

main escarp Aug 1, 2025, 8:23 PM

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Yeah he was supposed to send us his data repository for peoples clogs

dense ginkgo Aug 1, 2025, 8:23 PM

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Temple works so much better than the old site

main escarp Aug 1, 2025, 8:24 PM

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so we could transfer the data to Temple

novel surge Aug 1, 2025, 8:24 PM

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but it's actually just not doing the same thing at all

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so for a couple months we'd get like a bajillion feature requests about "clog site did this, can u please add it"

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temple has finally filled that void though

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which is good because i really did not want to

main escarp Aug 1, 2025, 8:24 PM

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novel surge so for a couple months we'd get like a bajillion feature requests about "clog si...

Yeah i tried to get the word out that Temple took this over

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and we did a way better job IMO

kind sandal Aug 1, 2025, 8:24 PM

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He was probably happy to stop having to pay for running the site lol

main escarp Aug 1, 2025, 8:24 PM

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So if you get those pings please redirect them to temple

main escarp Aug 1, 2025, 8:25 PM

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kind sandal He was probably happy to stop having to pay for running the site lol

That site was minimally paid for

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and he had zero API lockdown

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and he got abused

north axle Aug 1, 2025, 8:25 PM

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main escarp So if you get those pings please redirect them to temple

directly into templecord questions channel

dense ginkgo Aug 1, 2025, 8:25 PM

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there's still some very goofy things about EHC but for actually cataloging clogs and providing an API for log advisor etc it's very good

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does the PNM transmog still give you negative EHC lol

main escarp Aug 1, 2025, 8:25 PM

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dense ginkgo there's still some very goofy things about EHC but for actually cataloging clogs...

Some of the EHC needs worked out

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and Iron EHC doesnt exist yet

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thats a big ass spreadsheet that needs pushed

dense ginkgo Aug 1, 2025, 8:26 PM

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this one is just funny

main escarp Aug 1, 2025, 8:26 PM

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The issue is EHC is a shitty metric and its not linear and its massive spaghetti code

dense ginkgo Aug 1, 2025, 8:26 PM

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it's good if you're clue locked or close to it

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but if it gets fully worked out it'll be nice yeah

main escarp Aug 1, 2025, 8:30 PM

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north axle directly into templecord questions channel

more things for me to ignore KreyGasm

north axle Aug 1, 2025, 8:33 PM

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I have been humbled and it is infact impossible for wiki to find rates

stuck cape Aug 1, 2025, 8:53 PM

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north axle I have been humbled and it is infact impossible for wiki to find rates

Yep, I was thinking, there’s no fix, bc even if I open 1-2 I sometimes skip after that

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Like there’s always a chance I skip. But it’s 0 when it’s a unique , so it’s always gonna be higher than it should be

mighty rain Aug 1, 2025, 9:03 PM

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new pb

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Verypoggers

main escarp Aug 1, 2025, 9:21 PM

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Balls

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pOg

nova solstice Aug 1, 2025, 9:45 PM

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why are the new items so shit looking

winter garden Aug 1, 2025, 9:46 PM

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Art team is doing sailing

nova solstice Aug 1, 2025, 9:47 PM

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damn

leaden vault Aug 1, 2025, 9:48 PM

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gauntlets look good imo

verbal edge Aug 1, 2025, 9:55 PM

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gauntlets in the inv look awful

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compared to torm at least

nova solstice Aug 1, 2025, 9:56 PM

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looks like 2 beheaded king penguins

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if u ask me

mighty rain Aug 1, 2025, 10:09 PM

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I hate the palms of the new gauntlets

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plucky turret Aug 1, 2025, 10:13 PM

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steal his look

fickle bobcat Aug 1, 2025, 10:18 PM

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more like

void star Aug 1, 2025, 11:00 PM

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Green logged last night, eye was the last to get

wise spire Aug 1, 2025, 11:01 PM

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mighty rain I hate the palms of the new gauntlets

How does your character manage to hold the staff when there's already an orange in their hand?

mighty rain Aug 1, 2025, 11:03 PM

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wise spire How does your character manage to hold the staff when there's already an orange ...

spiderman hands

void star Aug 1, 2025, 11:04 PM

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craggy cobalt I have no proof for this but there is some sort of indicator Doom is about to do...

Shield comes together but it can be 50/50 for normal rock throw or melee punish.

deep oar Aug 1, 2025, 11:33 PM

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novel surge LOL

Sounds ridiculous doesn't it? To argue hypotheticals about what people with access to that data could do clueless

kind sandal Aug 1, 2025, 11:34 PM

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Alright no more shit flinging over boss drop table data, move on

verbal edge Aug 1, 2025, 11:34 PM

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there are three drops, therefore rates are 50/50/50

deep oar Aug 1, 2025, 11:36 PM

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kind sandal Alright no more shit flinging over boss drop table data, move on

has nothing to do with the drop table and everything to do with wiki policy for opt out crowdsourced data

twilit matrix Aug 1, 2025, 11:37 PM

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Just dont participate if u dont agree with it

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Same convo every day

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You can either do the boss or not

novel surge Aug 1, 2025, 11:38 PM

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it's not really a hypothetical when nearly every other crowdsourcing-adjacent thing (shooting stars, grand exchange, etc) end up having to spend the majority of their time policing bullshit data submissions. it's hella draining and not fun to deal with

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there's no good reason for me to sign up for that again with the loot tracker stuff. it creates so many new problems and fixes literally nothing

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i am pleasantly surprised how many people seem to realize you don't know what you're talking about though

main briar Aug 1, 2025, 11:45 PM

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Make your own crowdsourcing plugin and make it public weSmart

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Sadly it won't have the reach that an opt-out one does

glad osprey Aug 2, 2025, 12:56 AM

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this guy really wants to know whether he's dry already or not

mighty rain Aug 2, 2025, 1:10 AM

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best thing to do when u dont know the rates

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grind grind grind grind grind

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keep grinding

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keep killing osto-ayak !!!!

dense ginkgo Aug 2, 2025, 1:10 AM

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not until elites

keen rapids Aug 2, 2025, 1:12 AM

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mighty rain keep killing osto-ayak !!!!

need a sisyphus meme for this

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can u make it so he's pushing the boulder down tho

mighty rain Aug 2, 2025, 1:12 AM

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lmao

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can do in a bit

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grinding continues

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😤

keen rapids Aug 2, 2025, 1:13 AM

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go on...

mighty rain Aug 2, 2025, 1:14 AM

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yeah

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6 brews left too

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i hate that it can do the normal shield after car phase

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should just go into blue shield 100% guranteed nothing else triggered

verbal edge Aug 2, 2025, 1:16 AM

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the pray range/mage shield you mean?

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i dont think ive ever seen that after car phase

mighty rain Aug 2, 2025, 1:16 AM

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when car phase ends

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it has to be attacked once to trigger blue shield

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if u dont hit it fast enough it has a chance to do the normal shield

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and its kinda hard to make sure to do that when the last attack before walking with orb is double boulder

keen rapids Aug 2, 2025, 1:34 AM

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mighty rain

we cant all be gamers

mighty rain Aug 2, 2025, 1:35 AM

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that's it reckles...

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I demand to see your pb !!!!!

keen rapids Aug 2, 2025, 1:35 AM

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this is either my pb or tied LOL

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i dont think ive made it to 12 yet

mighty rain Aug 2, 2025, 1:35 AM

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juicy tears from that run

keen rapids Aug 2, 2025, 1:37 AM

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uhhh

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apparently i didn't interrupt the melee shield 🤔

deep oar Aug 2, 2025, 1:40 AM

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whats your pb damen

mighty rain Aug 2, 2025, 3:26 AM

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deep oar whats your pb damen

Only w13

verbal edge Aug 2, 2025, 4:32 AM

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are they going to fix the glitch where the boss attacks you at the same time as the boulder attack on wave 8+

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i just had a pb wave 13 run where i got hit by that glitch four times...

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cost me probably half my brews

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probably could have been 17+ if that didnt happen every wave despairge

deep oar Aug 2, 2025, 4:35 AM

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i think its caused by attacking doing the melee punish too early

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at least thats the only time ive had it happen

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if i wait for the first boulder to explode i dont think it can

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my pb only 13 as well 17 would be giga

verbal edge Aug 2, 2025, 4:36 AM

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was just -50 almost every wave 8+ lol

deep oar Aug 2, 2025, 4:36 AM

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i dropped scythe for nally to try and go a bit higher think i like it

verbal edge Aug 2, 2025, 4:36 AM

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i'll try doing the timing you suggest

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really seems like a glitch though

deep oar Aug 2, 2025, 4:37 AM

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for sure i dont think its intended

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i dont think they mentioned it on the list of changes though coming

nimble crest Aug 2, 2025, 6:36 AM

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@novel surge Patreon for exclusive access to crowd source data

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U guys need to eat man

proven owl Aug 2, 2025, 6:39 AM

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can have crowdfunding goals where you leak fake data to the public so patrons can merch

merry lotus Aug 2, 2025, 6:43 AM

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What's the tldr on the wahhing over the wiki ppl

proven owl Aug 2, 2025, 6:53 AM

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some people are salty that wiki doesn't release raw data on drop rates and in that group a couple of ppl are coming up with conspiracy theories for why they don't

buoyant rose Aug 2, 2025, 9:24 AM

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i swear i see way too many of these or maybe im disgustingly spooned

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droprates here are crazy

glad osprey Aug 2, 2025, 9:27 AM

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my buddy has 4 boots and 2 pets at about 1500 total delves lol

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nvm 2k delves actually

buoyant rose Aug 2, 2025, 9:34 AM

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i swear it makes 0 sense how the boots are 500m

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but like i said i might be jaded and delusional (happens often)

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more importantly now i do not need to bring amethyst arrows and can just burn rune arrows at the boss Verypoggers

burnt lichen Aug 2, 2025, 9:45 AM

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makes perfect sense why the boots are 500m

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they are super desirable, rare

proven owl Aug 2, 2025, 10:14 AM

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id guess most players still aren't clearing wave 5+

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so not much chance to get boots

rugged rune Aug 2, 2025, 10:15 AM

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5 isn’t really difficult, I’d say most people after a day of practice could clear it easily

proven owl Aug 2, 2025, 10:16 AM

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i disagree ^^

rugged rune Aug 2, 2025, 10:18 AM

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Be interested to see the breakdown of completions per wave now

proven owl Aug 2, 2025, 10:19 AM

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just go outside the boss room and check

rugged rune Aug 2, 2025, 10:19 AM

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Yeah, I’m not on atm I will check later

proven owl Aug 2, 2025, 10:19 AM

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and keep in mind that a lot of the normal players have alrdy quit the boss by now since they didn't make it past wave 3

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so it's already heavily skewed towards higher tier players

rugged rune Aug 2, 2025, 10:21 AM

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I think 1-4/5 is comfy, once you’ve practiced a bit, then 6-8+ is where it starts to require a lot more focus

burnt lichen Aug 2, 2025, 10:23 AM

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i think it's all easy, except 8+ when you make a mistake u can insta die

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its still kinda easy tho

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just run over poison if u have to

proven owl Aug 2, 2025, 10:25 AM

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ye wave 8 is pretty easy

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but we're not average players

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and we have no real effect on the price of boots

rugged rune Aug 2, 2025, 10:32 AM

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They are bis boots and combine all 3, of course they’re going to be expensive

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It’s not been out for long either, so price is going to be somewhat inflated

nimble crest Aug 2, 2025, 10:52 AM

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yeah boss is pretty simple

fallow terrace Aug 2, 2025, 11:03 AM

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im getting so tired of this boss haha gimme the staff pls

wise spire Aug 2, 2025, 1:29 PM

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Only hard part of the entire boss is orb + double boulder

main briar Aug 2, 2025, 1:35 PM

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fallow terrace im getting so tired of this boss haha gimme the staff pls

I got u https://i.imgur.com/SuB2ahh.png

Imgur

craggy cobalt Aug 2, 2025, 1:42 PM

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pulling a kiwi iskadda

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spoon the other uniques and go dry on the most common one

main briar Aug 2, 2025, 1:43 PM

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do we even know if that's dry yet tbh?

craggy cobalt Aug 2, 2025, 1:45 PM

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we do not

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but if it is true that the cloth is the most common I would say it's extremely likely

glad osprey Aug 2, 2025, 1:47 PM

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700+ delves without a crumb of a unique, pls gagex tell me it's due despair

wise spire Aug 2, 2025, 1:49 PM

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Meanwhile gnomonkey is at like 1700, mostly deep delves, with 2 pets and nothing else

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Rates are a myth

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Jagex employees just manually sitting there giving loot to whoever they please

glad osprey Aug 2, 2025, 1:50 PM

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lmao really

main briar Aug 2, 2025, 1:51 PM

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When rng do the rng thing Shocking

glad osprey Aug 2, 2025, 1:51 PM

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I know a guy who only got his 1st unique at around 2k delves, though he struggled to get consistent 7+ clears at first (I'd say he finally got it at around 1k total delves lol)

glad osprey Aug 2, 2025, 1:51 PM

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main briar When rng do the rng thing <:Shocking:565287323898609718>

frfr crazy

mighty rain Aug 2, 2025, 2:05 PM

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wise spire Only hard part of the entire boss is orb + double boulder

i feel like 75% of the time I die to this is b/c im stressing about how to avoid acid

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next weeks update gonna be 🔥

wise spire Aug 2, 2025, 2:22 PM

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there's a lot of small things to fix, but if they get them all then it's a really good boss

proven owl Aug 2, 2025, 2:23 PM

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mighty rain i feel like 75% of the time I die to this is b/c im stressing about how to avoid...

for me the trick is just to pretend acid isn't real

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and turns out it is actually barely real

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it does so little dmg u can easily just run through it whenever you feel like

mighty rain Aug 2, 2025, 2:23 PM

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its more so like w12+

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sometimes get unlucky and u gotta go through 8 tiles of acid

proven owl Aug 2, 2025, 2:24 PM

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ye even then i just run straight through it for orb

mighty rain Aug 2, 2025, 2:24 PM

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works most of the time, until the 4th attack he does is a doubl boulder

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agony

proven owl Aug 2, 2025, 2:25 PM

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personally i like to claim between w10-15 or so and just brew but if you want to go deeper then acgs should outheal acid pretty well

mighty rain Aug 2, 2025, 2:25 PM

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so u just spec with that right before orb proc?

proven owl Aug 2, 2025, 2:26 PM

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no i mean after

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acid is never gonna kill you from 99 hp

mighty rain Aug 2, 2025, 2:26 PM

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ye thats fair

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I guess its more so my own issue with like

proven owl Aug 2, 2025, 2:26 PM

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you'll get low when doom dies but then u can heal to full with acgs during next shield phase or first nascar charge

mighty rain Aug 2, 2025, 2:26 PM

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I'll be 1 dose of brew or no supplies but full hp then ego it

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fuck up once then acid finishes me off

proven owl Aug 2, 2025, 2:28 PM

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ye for me problem is more fucking up prayers sometimes but it has gotten easier since i stopped caring about acid

ripe obsidian Aug 2, 2025, 3:24 PM

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proven owl but we're not average players

the skill and knowledge gap between the irons in this disc and the average player is massive imo

heady flicker Aug 2, 2025, 3:36 PM

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ripe obsidian the skill and knowledge gap between the irons in this disc and the average playe...

I think you could extend that further, players who use Rs related discords are above average.

Lots of people don’t interact with any Rs communities outside of perhaps some billybob clan and a Gnomonkey video once in a while while playing on their laptop on the couch

limber finch Aug 2, 2025, 3:46 PM

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Idk have you seen the official osrs discord?

desert thorn Aug 2, 2025, 3:49 PM

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how bad is it

dense ginkgo Aug 2, 2025, 3:53 PM

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That said the ratio of players that engage with content you're supposed to spend 10+ deaths learning is much higher in OSRS than any other MMO I've played besides Wildstar (which was explicitly marketed as "the hardcore MMO")

heady flicker Aug 2, 2025, 3:59 PM

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desert thorn how bad is it

Imagine runescapeExpert, but not expert

limber finch Aug 2, 2025, 4:00 PM

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dense ginkgo That said the ratio of players that engage with content you're supposed to spend...

RS3 is even more like this from what I can remember

dense ginkgo Aug 2, 2025, 4:01 PM

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limber finch RS3 is even more like this from what I can remember

Fair enough, didn't get that far in it so I wouldn't know

limber finch Aug 2, 2025, 4:01 PM

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I died in that game so many times learning new content

dense ginkgo Aug 2, 2025, 4:01 PM

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With the stagnant but dedicated playerbase it makes sense

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So many players would make angry reddit posts if something like Vanstrom Klause or any of the GM bosses made it into a quest in anything else lol

limber finch Aug 2, 2025, 4:03 PM

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Interesting. OSRS and RS3 are the only MMOs I’ve played so I just figured it was that way in a lot of games

desert thorn Aug 2, 2025, 4:08 PM

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heady flicker Imagine runescapeExpert, but not expert

skeesh

nimble crest Aug 2, 2025, 5:17 PM

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finally a half decent loot chest

keen rapids Aug 2, 2025, 5:26 PM

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Them cballs skeesh

kind sandal Aug 2, 2025, 5:35 PM

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craggy cobalt pulling a kiwi iskadda

Same lol

wise spire Aug 2, 2025, 5:35 PM

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1900 delves at 1-7

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despair

nimble crest Aug 2, 2025, 5:36 PM

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1-7 resetters are nuts

coral basalt Aug 2, 2025, 5:36 PM

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4 eyes jesus

kind sandal Aug 2, 2025, 5:38 PM

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Without knowing drop rates I'm prefectly content doing 1-7 and claiming. For all we know the multiplier applies to uniques and it caps out at D3 for best rates lol

verbal edge Aug 2, 2025, 5:39 PM

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i think we can almost certainly assume that rates scale up with later waves

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would be insane if they didnt

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the only question is how much they scale

winter garden Aug 2, 2025, 5:39 PM

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Wave 7 claiming is major cope but I blame jagex for them being so common early waves

kind sandal Aug 2, 2025, 5:39 PM

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The base loot multiplier caps at 3 so monkashrug

winter garden Aug 2, 2025, 5:39 PM

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Boots should’ve been 8+

coral basalt Aug 2, 2025, 5:40 PM

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I just recently started doing some 8s instead of 1-7, probably just going back to 1-7 after a little more KC though

verbal edge Aug 2, 2025, 5:40 PM

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uniques should have been 4/6/8, and pet 9+

kind sandal Aug 2, 2025, 5:40 PM

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winter garden Boots should’ve been 8+

Ideas like this are what kill games. Pandering to hlc only upsets 99% of the playerbase

nimble crest Aug 2, 2025, 5:40 PM

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the downside of 1-7 is that u dont get all items before wave 4

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but individual persons can spoon regardless

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most likely RFZ is a good shout

verbal edge Aug 2, 2025, 5:41 PM

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kind sandal Ideas like this are what kill games. Pandering to hlc only upsets 99% of the pla...

not every single item needs to be obtainable by every single person

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aspirational content is a good thing

kind sandal Aug 2, 2025, 5:41 PM

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Outside of cosmetics that's how the game is now

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And I'd say that's working pretty well

verbal edge Aug 2, 2025, 5:42 PM

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everyone has an infernal cape?

kind sandal Aug 2, 2025, 5:42 PM

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You don't need to grind inferno at a rate of 1/100 for a cape

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Most people can clear wave 8 with good rng

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Grinding it for a rare drop is unreasonable

winter garden Aug 2, 2025, 5:43 PM

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Why, end game boss and bis item

verbal edge Aug 2, 2025, 5:43 PM

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if you can clear wave 8 then you can clear waves 9, 10, 11 etc

kind sandal Aug 2, 2025, 5:43 PM

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winter garden Why, end game boss and bis item

So like every other piece of BiS gear

winter garden Aug 2, 2025, 5:44 PM

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Well delve is in its own category because of the levels

verbal edge Aug 2, 2025, 5:45 PM

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the difficulty and style of the delve boss is most comparable to inferno/colo

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so i dont think its that unreasonable that there would be some hard to obtain items like quiver and infernal cape

kind sandal Aug 2, 2025, 5:45 PM

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I could see an argument for it if the boots had the cumulative drop rate of 4-8 on every 8+ delve

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Like I could see ralos being wave 12 only if the drop rate was buffed accordingly

plucky turret Aug 2, 2025, 5:46 PM

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both quiver and infernal are 1nd for most ppl

kind sandal Aug 2, 2025, 5:46 PM

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I just don't think adding rng to aspirational content is a good idea

plucky turret Aug 2, 2025, 5:46 PM

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i think the mogs are cool from it

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still serviced you can flex u did it

onyx raven Aug 2, 2025, 5:48 PM

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finally got m y bad boys

mighty rain Aug 2, 2025, 5:48 PM

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1330 delves for me

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boots and wand

stuck cape Aug 2, 2025, 5:56 PM

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W1-7 is like doing a justi infernal cape, you literally have 0 kc in the new boss

nimble crest Aug 2, 2025, 5:58 PM

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delve is easy

stuck cape Aug 2, 2025, 5:58 PM

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I’d rather kill the game then have 0 kc and boots

nimble crest Aug 2, 2025, 5:58 PM

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cos its so short u can just keep practicing and get to the hard parts fast

stuck cape Aug 2, 2025, 5:58 PM

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I’d be too ashamed to pot team content

onyx raven Aug 2, 2025, 5:59 PM

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verbal edge uniques should have been 4/6/8, and pet 9+

i don't think they were that far off with their implementation. average player does 1-7 spends 57% of their time eligible for boots, high level player does 1-14 spends 78% of their time eligible for boots, thats like a +40% rate for the high level person for their willingness to engage with difficulty. seems fair

mighty rain Aug 2, 2025, 5:59 PM

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potting 1-7 is like potting w1 colo to bless ur quiver

stuck cape Aug 2, 2025, 5:59 PM

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Might as well just buy ur fang kit too, it’s technically the same item

coral basalt Aug 2, 2025, 5:59 PM

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its not that deep

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(kekw pun intended)

keen rapids Aug 2, 2025, 5:59 PM

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stuck cape W1-7 is like doing a justi infernal cape, you literally have 0 kc in the new bos...

hang on... let him cook...green log with 0 kc

winter garden Aug 2, 2025, 6:00 PM

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mighty rain potting 1-7 is like potting w1 colo to bless ur quiver

Woah woah now

stuck cape Aug 2, 2025, 6:01 PM

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I forgot you did that kekw kekw

winter garden Aug 2, 2025, 6:01 PM

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politecry

stuck cape Aug 2, 2025, 6:02 PM

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Surely ur 25 kc now right?

winter garden Aug 2, 2025, 6:02 PM

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More

stuck cape Aug 2, 2025, 6:02 PM

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So no1 has to know

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Ez

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NOOBA

winter garden Aug 2, 2025, 6:02 PM

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In my defence I was like 14 kc when I did wave 1

stuck cape Aug 2, 2025, 6:02 PM

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Ancients camp

winter garden Aug 2, 2025, 6:02 PM

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Ya it sucked

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Once I brought proper inv was very fun

stuck cape Aug 2, 2025, 6:02 PM

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Once you stopped teleing to double south

winter garden Aug 2, 2025, 6:03 PM

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My Ralos was on a double south monkaSPEED

acoustic oak Aug 2, 2025, 6:04 PM

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nothing wrong w shadow colo cmon....

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dude?

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i have 30 kc off me

glad osprey Aug 2, 2025, 6:06 PM

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stop with this elitist bs

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let us noobs get them upgrades

acoustic oak Aug 2, 2025, 6:08 PM

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we shoulda got droprates this past wednesday, what a shame

stuck cape Aug 2, 2025, 6:08 PM

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This Wednesday, it’s 2 weeks

acoustic oak Aug 2, 2025, 6:08 PM

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i thought it was 1 week

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mb ig

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2 weeks is a while to wait for everyone to spam content but it is what it is

nimble crest Aug 2, 2025, 6:09 PM

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bis to do it before drop rates

stuck cape Aug 2, 2025, 6:09 PM

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You’re rank 1, honestly your opinions shouldn’t count because we all can’t click the game and look at our screen. We need content to be accessible to those of us with 2 jobs and babies and 3 dogs and wives and responsibilities. Be reasonable .

nimble crest Aug 2, 2025, 6:09 PM

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more fun not knowing

acoustic oak Aug 2, 2025, 6:10 PM

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tricks on it

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theres no tradable bis thats actually hard to get in this game. although id be fine with gear being 8+, i dont think jagex had that in mind

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(unless im missing some gear)

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u can weed pvm all megarare weapons

stuck cape Aug 2, 2025, 6:11 PM

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Awkually avernic tread max are untradeable

acoustic oak Aug 2, 2025, 6:11 PM

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ya but u get them as min as a drop

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its like only infernal cape and quiver require u to learn stuff, but u can even cheese those so

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u can 12/12 cox without know what running the head means if u wanted to

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or a single solo

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I just don’t think it’s ever been their design philosophy even if I agree it’s good

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You still end up saving more time on average pushing delves I’m sure

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It’s more boot rolls/hr to not reset

mighty rain Aug 2, 2025, 6:20 PM

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i dont blame you guys for doing 1-7

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I blame jagex for making drops happen before w6

verbal edge Aug 2, 2025, 6:20 PM

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1-7 probably is decent for items

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and it really shouldnt be

acoustic oak Aug 2, 2025, 6:21 PM

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Ya I don’t think it’s the players fault

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If it was ralos scaling people would push

verbal edge Aug 2, 2025, 6:21 PM

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i only moved on to 8+ yesterday because 1-7 was treating me well

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also i got bored

stuck cape Aug 2, 2025, 6:26 PM

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1-7 sounds very boring but maybe it’s just weed / discord angle

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I don’t believe 1-7 is good for items , maybe it’s good compared to 1-8 when you die on 8 80% of the time

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But there’s no way it’s 0.5 compared to 1-15s

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9+ has less hp than 6/7/8 and 1-3 doesn’t have access to all the drops

onyx raven Aug 2, 2025, 6:31 PM

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if its flat drop rate 1-7 is like 70%. not counting that 3 4 and 5 are very slow waves relative

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so probably like 65% or something

south vine Aug 2, 2025, 6:36 PM

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i think im gonna start doing wave 2 resets

craggy cobalt Aug 2, 2025, 6:41 PM

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south vine i think im gonna start doing wave 2 resets

say sike rn

south vine Aug 2, 2025, 6:47 PM

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it might be the play i fear

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havent seen anyone get cloth above like wave 7 the latest

craggy cobalt Aug 2, 2025, 6:49 PM

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welp if it's any consolation I switched to 1-7 resets and also have not gotten a unique since 750 delves

south vine Aug 2, 2025, 6:49 PM

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oh damn hello rank 1 its rank 2 bigdog

craggy cobalt Aug 2, 2025, 6:49 PM

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so the only conclusion is jagex turned off the purples

winter garden Aug 2, 2025, 6:51 PM

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I saw a wave 10 cloth pic

stuck cape Aug 2, 2025, 6:57 PM

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south vine oh damn hello rank 1 its rank 2 <a:bigdog:1249870697539305493>

Why is ur emote called big dog but his is called mypenis

nimble crest Aug 2, 2025, 7:08 PM

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2 nerds lol

main briar Aug 2, 2025, 8:09 PM

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craggy cobalt welp if it's any consolation I switched to 1-7 resets and also have not gotten a...

I got 2 staves in an hour doing em last night

onyx raven Aug 2, 2025, 8:14 PM

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does eye of ayak 1 shot phosani husks

obsidian turret Aug 2, 2025, 8:25 PM

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any1 got a no zcb setup pic? just about to start learning, got t bow scy chally scobow

north axle Aug 2, 2025, 8:28 PM

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ripe obsidian the skill and knowledge gap between the irons in this disc and the average playe...

we will catch up some day 🙏

wispy knot Aug 2, 2025, 8:41 PM

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Okay, seriously who the hell decided delve 8 is reasonable

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7 already feels wild enough. The triple melee grubs over acid is bullshit

main briar Aug 2, 2025, 8:41 PM

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if you aren't going very deep, the grubs don't matter

wispy knot Aug 2, 2025, 8:43 PM

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Yea just feels like actual bullshit tho. I know if I manage grubs well it'll take a few triples to start approaching missed prayer damage but its still just enough to kill me

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Also the double boulder

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That and the shockwave ball attack together

coral basalt Aug 2, 2025, 8:44 PM

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You just have to ignore the grubs sometimes

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They kept messing me up till I stopped letting myself get distracted with them

proven owl Aug 2, 2025, 8:44 PM

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wispy knot 7 already feels wild enough. The triple melee grubs over acid is bullshit

right now tech is to avoid dealing with more than maybe 1 of them during start but this is also getting patched to be easier next week

coral basalt Aug 2, 2025, 8:44 PM

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The double boulder definitely needs a better cooldown, can't remember if that's one of the things they're addressing

proven owl Aug 2, 2025, 8:45 PM

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obsidian turret any1 got a no zcb setup pic? just about to start learning, got t bow scy chally ...

i would prob go for acgs>bp/knives

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not sure where knives ended up sitting in terms of non gnomonkey derp dps calcs

wispy knot Aug 2, 2025, 8:45 PM

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Wave 4 fucks me up more than 5 and 6 too weirdly enough

proven owl Aug 2, 2025, 8:46 PM

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i honestly don't mind the spam double boulders, it's obviously more difficult but it's still kinda fun dealing with 4 2x boulders on w8 start

keen rapids Aug 2, 2025, 8:47 PM

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It's the ferrari phase, car is free on 5 and still can be pretty easy on 6

wispy knot Aug 2, 2025, 8:47 PM

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Ye. I just can't seem to figure out how to consistently solve the slams tho

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Like I'll lose all my boulders after 2 charges and be forced to eat the third/4th hit

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So I'm just mentally thinking just eat thru the rest and that burns brews. Fine, but not optimall

keen rapids Aug 2, 2025, 8:50 PM

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Luring it onto a rock for the first slam to null it is strong

wispy knot Aug 2, 2025, 8:50 PM

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True. Thought that was patched?

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Or going to be shortly

keen rapids Aug 2, 2025, 8:51 PM

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I think the fix was that the slam destroys the rock if he's parked directly on it

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So still works for the first slam

celest robin Aug 2, 2025, 8:52 PM

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It's gonna sound stupid but just send the car southeast first every single time

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I have absolutely no idea why but it seems to work incredibly consistently

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saw boaty go there with ~zero hesitation in his wave 20+ video and started trying it

arctic niche Aug 2, 2025, 8:52 PM

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i still like car park nulling 1 rock makes it really easy to solve rest

celest robin Aug 2, 2025, 8:52 PM

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it's just good

wispy knot Aug 2, 2025, 8:53 PM

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Ill try it, sure why not

proven owl Aug 2, 2025, 8:53 PM

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celest robin It's gonna sound stupid but just send the car southeast first every single time

ill try this next time i dps too much for a rock block

main briar Aug 2, 2025, 8:58 PM

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I find baiting it diagonally much more unintuitive to dodge compared to straight line lures

celest robin Aug 2, 2025, 8:59 PM

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yea I think that's just because of how player pathing works

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make it your mission to run in as straight of a perpendicular diagonal away as you can and you live ~every time

north axle Aug 2, 2025, 9:02 PM

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celest robin It's gonna sound stupid but just send the car southeast first every single time

As in no rock block?

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Or as in rock block second

celest robin Aug 2, 2025, 9:03 PM

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as in no rock block

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As far as I can tell the random rocks usually fall west

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but really I have no idea why it worked, I just copied boaty and it just started working

north axle Aug 2, 2025, 9:13 PM

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Southeast and then what

desert thorn Aug 2, 2025, 9:19 PM

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Rates are not out but vibes are not good

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vibes tell me i should have seen at least 1 item

stuck cape Aug 2, 2025, 9:23 PM

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If you put it on a rock for the first slam, even without tile markers etc

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It will limit the directions he destroys things

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Just always drag the car the direction u started the fight for boulders

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And the first slam will do minimal dmg

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It might destroy 1 direction but it won’t hit all 4 if there’s a rock under him

minor tartan Aug 2, 2025, 9:49 PM

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I can’t seem to push past 11. I feel like I end up with more acid than I can deal with by then. Granted I’m normally claiming and not trying for 12.

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Also I’m sure I’m not alone but I’m dying to know the rates. Feels pretty bad here lol.

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desert thorn Aug 2, 2025, 9:50 PM

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desert thorn Rates are not out but vibes are not good

nvm

celest robin Aug 2, 2025, 10:13 PM

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minor tartan I can’t seem to push past 11. I feel like I end up with more acid than I can dea...

acid is a mindset, simply believe it won't hurt you and it ||mostly|| won't

minor tartan Aug 2, 2025, 10:15 PM

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Is the strategy to ignore more of the melee grubs or just tank some acid as needed? I know it doesn’t do a ton of damage but I really try to avoid it lol.

verbal edge Aug 2, 2025, 10:33 PM

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if you're trying to push deep waves then you need to be killing as many grubs as you can

stuck cape Aug 2, 2025, 10:56 PM

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Scobo spec kills a melee grub as well, if you can’t reach it

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Also manual cast is really chill for individual mage grubs

minor tartan Aug 2, 2025, 11:06 PM

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stuck cape Scobo spec kills a melee grub as well, if you can’t reach it

Wait really?

stuck cape Aug 2, 2025, 11:16 PM

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In like 5 ticks yea

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Burn has to tick 2x

weary garden Aug 2, 2025, 11:52 PM

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Alright. if this isnt enough to get the eye and cloth im gonna kms

merry lotus Aug 3, 2025, 12:07 AM

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Verypoggers

keen rapids Aug 3, 2025, 12:25 AM

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always the noobs...

glad osprey Aug 3, 2025, 12:32 AM

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yeah idk I guess crying does work

craggy cobalt Aug 3, 2025, 1:48 AM

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Is this good?

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I missed hammer but it kinda feels like that did a lot of damage anyways

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It's really good if you can get a non-melee grub near him during the car phase

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It's 0.75 of a scythe but at 1t so that's 3.75x the DPS?

wise spire Aug 3, 2025, 2:09 AM

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you also lose ~20 though if the grub gets through

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since it heals instead of damages

craggy cobalt Aug 3, 2025, 2:09 AM

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true

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theoretically could do it on mages and hold a demonbane spell to cast right before it enters

wise spire Aug 3, 2025, 2:10 AM

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all that just to get meleed by the boss though

craggy cobalt Aug 3, 2025, 2:11 AM

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yeah melee Doom is about being there for a good time, not a long time though

wise spire Aug 3, 2025, 2:11 AM

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fair

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i think melee has potential for speedruns and what not but from current knowledge, not anything else

craggy cobalt Aug 3, 2025, 2:12 AM

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the bug where the melee punish doesn't give bonus damage if you melee on the same tick as it starts is just so cringe

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but no one is meleeing doom so I doubt they know about it or care to fix it

weary garden Aug 3, 2025, 2:44 AM

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whats the general consensus on 1-7 spam when im planking on 8 like 95% of the time?

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send the death anyways and learn more?

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or do 1-7 2 times per inv?

keen rapids Aug 3, 2025, 2:47 AM

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i would say depends on how you feel about losing the loot, imo the loot is almost always garbage so it's usually just a send

weary garden Aug 3, 2025, 2:47 AM

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I dont really care about loot at all tbh

keen rapids Aug 3, 2025, 2:48 AM

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more fun to fully learn the boss than to worry about efficiently grinding items

arctic niche Aug 3, 2025, 3:55 AM

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i kinda decided to just do it for demon tears then full send

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kinda hard to decide without knowing actual rates sadge

merry lotus Aug 3, 2025, 4:05 AM

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just eye and cloth for me and i'm done with the boss

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very happy with that since they're undoubtedly the most common items

weary garden Aug 3, 2025, 4:07 AM

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merry lotus just eye and cloth for me and i'm done with the boss

same, and i cant wait to be done lmao

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thats why im considering just doing 1-7 spam instead of dying to 8. but hard to tell if its good without knowing rates

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Horrendous stats, but just finished my first 8+ hypers

dense ginkgo Aug 3, 2025, 4:18 AM

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hell yeah

zealous dune Aug 3, 2025, 4:28 AM

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if you do the gear downgrades the death cost is minimal. im only paying 5k a death. ill claim 7 if there's a decent stack of cannonballs. wave 8 also means boss kc

tawny kelp Aug 3, 2025, 4:50 AM

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yeah with void slayer staff darklight mine are 10k

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so death is nothing

merry lotus Aug 3, 2025, 5:43 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/LQ0cSPS.png

Imgur

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yeah i'm switching to darklight

dense ginkgo Aug 3, 2025, 5:45 AM

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merry lotus https://i.imgur.com/LQ0cSPS.png

Feros are more strength than Rancour

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Unless you're worried about not swapping back

merry lotus Aug 3, 2025, 5:46 AM

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drop rancour for feros then?

dense ginkgo Aug 3, 2025, 5:47 AM

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Pretty sure yeah

tacit slate Aug 3, 2025, 5:59 AM

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you guys think farming 8+ without tbow/zcb is reasonable? or just 1-7?

acoustic oak Aug 3, 2025, 6:19 AM

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ya its prolly require some better mechanical play vs brute force w dps

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very reasonable from my understanding, seen people doing 10+ with scobo, one without rigor even

nimble crest Aug 3, 2025, 6:56 AM

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if ur 115 going into earthen phase its pretty easy to survive

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just requires a bit more skill since you will encounter it a lot more

nova solstice Aug 3, 2025, 7:06 AM

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any1 got a beginner setup and like whats the goal here? try to get consitently to 6 then to 8?

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or should i just straight keeep sending as far as i can every run

buoyant rose Aug 3, 2025, 7:32 AM

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i swear i see more people with just boots

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than cloth/eye

tacit slate Aug 3, 2025, 7:37 AM

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as an eye/4 cloth haver, i am desperate for those booties

buoyant rose Aug 3, 2025, 7:41 AM

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i am personally ecstatic that i only have boots

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might skip if i get cloth before eye not sure

proven owl Aug 3, 2025, 8:45 AM

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nova solstice any1 got a beginner setup and like whats the goal here? try to get consitently t...

replace tbow and masori with void + scobow, ditch melee swaps and scythe for nox hally, I don't rly like thralls anymore so id just bring dc, spec wep alternatives are acgs/bp/knives/chally

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can bring darklight and slayer staff for low death fee

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id say goal is to go as far as u can and cash out whenever your supplies are low

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can cash out early on 7 when you're less confident if you have good loot somehow

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oh and pegs > aranea unless you bring my exact melee setup probably

quaint lion Aug 3, 2025, 8:49 AM

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Is it worth using dragon knives?

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Got 675 from Hydra, and no other use that I can see?

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Also are they only worth it once you get it down pat, or even good when learning

proven owl Aug 3, 2025, 8:49 AM

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dunno tbh, they were popular for a while cuz gnomonkey tricked everyone into thinking they had higher dps than zcb

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not sure what the actual dps was like in the end

quaint lion Aug 3, 2025, 8:50 AM

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Only got Scobo and chally for the gear

proven owl Aug 3, 2025, 8:50 AM

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but its prob higher than bp speccing

quaint lion Aug 3, 2025, 8:50 AM

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No tbow/ zcb

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Have bp and d knives

proven owl Aug 3, 2025, 8:51 AM

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bp is nice for delving deeper cuz it heals you and saves on brews and knives are presumably nice for cheesing nascar and not getting earth orb + boulder combo w8+

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but as i said i haven't actually dps calced knives myself

quaint lion Aug 3, 2025, 8:52 AM

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Thank you!

proven owl Aug 3, 2025, 8:52 AM

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quaint lion Also are they only worth it once you get it down pat, or even good when learning

they do kinda require you to use the rock block tech

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gonna be very difficult to knife spec without it

nova solstice Aug 3, 2025, 10:04 AM

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proven owl replace tbow and masori with void + scobow, ditch melee swaps and scythe for nox...

Thanks king

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Any reason why u bank the tbow?

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Just works out better with no switches while learning i asume?

proven owl Aug 3, 2025, 10:05 AM

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nova solstice Any reason why u bank the tbow?

no im just assuming u dont own one for a beginner setup

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tbow is better than scobow if you have it

nova solstice Aug 3, 2025, 10:05 AM

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Oh nah i just meant beginner as learning

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I have max everything mb lol

proven owl Aug 3, 2025, 10:06 AM

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do you have infinite gp in your coffer?

nova solstice Aug 3, 2025, 10:06 AM

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40m iirc

proven owl Aug 3, 2025, 10:07 AM

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you could try my setup if you dont mind losing the full gp every death

nova solstice Aug 3, 2025, 10:07 AM

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So void is like a death gp thing?

proven owl Aug 3, 2025, 10:07 AM

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its good for early waves especially but falls off a bit at 15+ or so

nova solstice Aug 3, 2025, 10:07 AM

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Or is it like actually bis dps

proven owl Aug 3, 2025, 10:07 AM

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void/masori is hard to say which is best

nova solstice Aug 3, 2025, 10:07 AM

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Gotcha

proven owl Aug 3, 2025, 10:08 AM

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masori > void for early waves and is tankier

nova solstice Aug 3, 2025, 10:08 AM

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Ill try masori til i get comfy i think

proven owl Aug 3, 2025, 10:08 AM

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void is probably best for very deep delving since ur dps on the 100% accuracy phases matter more w8+

nova solstice Aug 3, 2025, 10:09 AM

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Ty so much

desert thorn Aug 3, 2025, 10:16 AM

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is just me or are the new boots fucking ugly

proven owl Aug 3, 2025, 10:19 AM

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nova solstice Ty so much

oh also to be clear, when i said you can use my setup if you have max I meant with scythe and zcb too not just tbow and masori

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scythe gives more acid but with aranea and 2 switches is really solid if not pushing too deep imo

glad osprey Aug 3, 2025, 11:25 AM

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desert thorn is just me or are the new boots fucking ugly

depends in your other gear imo, they look dogshit with my blood moon tassies but I love them when wearing ancestral

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thought it would look bad without cm kits but it fits very well regardless

modern ingot Aug 3, 2025, 12:48 PM

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south vine havent seen anyone get cloth above like wave 7 the latest

w10 cloth for you bud

craggy cobalt Aug 3, 2025, 1:21 PM

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the real wiki crowdsource drama is that jagex stealth nerfed the droprates and the wiki admins are keeping that info from us

buoyant rose Aug 3, 2025, 1:38 PM

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i doubt they'd stealth nerf any droprates after yama

whole escarp Aug 3, 2025, 1:42 PM

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Thought on 2 way vs 1 way switch on Chally? Looks like fero gloves would give 2 extra dmg per echo hit

desert thorn Aug 3, 2025, 1:47 PM

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are the sun kissed bones moka drops worth turning into bone shards and doing those blessed wines?

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or just chaos altar

keen rapids Aug 3, 2025, 1:57 PM

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desert thorn are the sun kissed bones moka drops worth turning into bone shards and doing tho...

they're slightly worse than dbone gilded altar iirc so yeah probably worth

night zephyr Aug 3, 2025, 2:01 PM

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Yeah they are definitely worth to use

buoyant rose Aug 3, 2025, 2:02 PM

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they're really fucking fast to process

night zephyr Aug 3, 2025, 2:02 PM

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You can 0t chisel them super fast you don't have to do the stupid enriching process that makes bone shards slow. So you just do the 2m prayer xp/hr method part of that

buoyant rose Aug 3, 2025, 2:02 PM

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so there is that

night zephyr Aug 3, 2025, 2:02 PM

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What makes bone shards not worth it is the process of enriching the regular bones. Sun kissed bones/bone shards just skip that part.

stuck cape Aug 3, 2025, 2:39 PM

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whole escarp Thought on 2 way vs 1 way switch on Chally? Looks like fero gloves would give 2 ...

If you are making it to 9+ consistently I wouldn’t bring anything extra, more supplies is gonna be better imo. If you’re dying to 8 a lot, then I think getting there slightly faster is a decent move

craggy cobalt Aug 3, 2025, 2:54 PM

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I like the extra swaps for chally/scy personally, pushing deeper down into the HP bar on the shield proc is valuable for killing car consistency

south vine Aug 3, 2025, 3:29 PM

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just got pet #6, genuinely starting to think something is wrong with the rates (or that spamming low waves is the best way to get cloth)

burnt lichen Aug 3, 2025, 3:34 PM

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holy shit lol

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i hope that's not me, im also hunting cloth last

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ive embraced the 1-7

keen rapids Aug 3, 2025, 3:41 PM

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W25 skeesh

stuck cape Aug 3, 2025, 3:47 PM

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burnt lichen ive embraced the 1-7

Are you doing something different for 1-7 that makes you feel like it’s better? Surge pots or melee switches or something

wise spire Aug 3, 2025, 3:48 PM

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it's more brain-off, I'll say that

main escarp Aug 3, 2025, 3:49 PM

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believe last i looked he was doing a 7 way melee

acoustic oak Aug 3, 2025, 3:49 PM

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thats nuts

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sounds fun

main escarp Aug 3, 2025, 3:49 PM

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it makes the 1-7 a lot more fun

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since its

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just prayer required

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im a fellow 1-7 believer

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because i can pot better call saul and do it

acoustic oak Aug 3, 2025, 3:51 PM

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i did a few days 1-7 watching tv on the side, but i started doing some deep delves as well recently

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might also be fun to do 1-8 and just get a rly fast time

main escarp Aug 3, 2025, 3:51 PM

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i got ranked kc and just went back to 1-7

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big vibes

acoustic oak Aug 3, 2025, 3:51 PM

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i wonder if the gm time is just gonna be a fast 1-8

main escarp Aug 3, 2025, 3:51 PM

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and im a casual who likes brain off movie content

main escarp Aug 3, 2025, 3:52 PM

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acoustic oak i wonder if the gm time is just gonna be a fast 1-8

perfect will be a 1-8 last i asked nox

acoustic oak Aug 3, 2025, 3:52 PM

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milking between encounters is prolly the meta for a speedy challenge time, but they are looking to patch that as well

main escarp Aug 3, 2025, 3:52 PM

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gm deep delve is 12

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but i think it may end up higher

acoustic oak Aug 3, 2025, 3:52 PM

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perfect 1-8 hmm

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i guess its honestly not that hard

main escarp Aug 3, 2025, 3:52 PM

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yes he said that sounds more fun than just perfect 8

south vine Aug 3, 2025, 3:52 PM

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burnt lichen ive embraced the 1-7

mind posting your setup? i might honestly do that

acoustic oak Aug 3, 2025, 3:53 PM

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just cant let grubs in

main escarp Aug 3, 2025, 3:54 PM

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south vine mind posting your setup? i might honestly do that

@burnt lichen

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if you dont mind me posting it

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afk

acoustic oak Aug 3, 2025, 3:55 PM

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masori def looks like a 1-7 play

main escarp Aug 3, 2025, 3:56 PM

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voids biggest benefit is car phase

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substantially more impact the deeper you go

acoustic oak Aug 3, 2025, 3:56 PM

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ya

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treads give darrows 3 max hits in void its nuts

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ur hitting like a truck in car phase

nimble crest Aug 3, 2025, 4:10 PM

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86 tbow just deletes delve yup

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10 tbow shots u got a p decent chance to kill it from at worst 468 hp on 8+ (75% proc)

desert thorn Aug 3, 2025, 4:14 PM

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if ur missing cloth and eye yall think is better to do 1-7?

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or is that cope

tacit slate Aug 3, 2025, 4:14 PM

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i got eye and 4 cloths in 1200 waves of doing 1-7, now im going deeper to try to find booties

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i think 3 of the cloths i got on wave 5 lol

craggy cobalt Aug 3, 2025, 4:15 PM

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I did 800 1-7s with no dice, but like there's no reason to believe any method is better or worse than any other methods

desert thorn Aug 3, 2025, 4:15 PM

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not gonna lie 1-7 with an 8 way melee switch sounds fun

acoustic oak Aug 3, 2025, 4:15 PM

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we will likely know wed

desert thorn Aug 3, 2025, 4:15 PM

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but the first waves are so boring

craggy cobalt Aug 3, 2025, 4:15 PM

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Cloth is rare apparently, I feel like all the items are the same rates, the only buff is that you roll for it on wave 2 and 3

tacit slate Aug 3, 2025, 4:16 PM

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first waves are soooo boring

craggy cobalt Aug 3, 2025, 4:16 PM

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1-7 resets sound all good until you realize you're doing way more wave 1-5s 💀

desert thorn Aug 3, 2025, 4:16 PM

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yea

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also 8+ is fun

acoustic oak Aug 3, 2025, 4:17 PM

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ya ur pet rolls tank hard

desert thorn Aug 3, 2025, 4:17 PM

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i would rather do less 1-5 im gonna be honest

acoustic oak Aug 3, 2025, 4:17 PM

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someone said that pet roll might replace unique roll, but idk how valid that claim is

craggy cobalt Aug 3, 2025, 4:17 PM

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wave 1 is depressing cause you never roll a unique, wave 3 and 4 are depressing because you do the shield forever, wave 5 is depressing cause you get a half car but not enough to kill it before earthen shield

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the boss gets fun at d6

coral basalt Aug 3, 2025, 4:20 PM

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modern ingot w10 cloth for you bud

This might be the first non-pet unique past w7 that I've seen someone post lol

acoustic oak Aug 3, 2025, 4:23 PM

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not mine but

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i think theres just way less 8+

wise spire Aug 3, 2025, 4:33 PM

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there's ~19m clears of 1-4, and <5m clears of 5+

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I think it's just not that much higher of a droprate, if at all, combined with far fewer clears

ivory ravine Aug 3, 2025, 4:50 PM

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How the hell do I get a dark light

oblique acorn Aug 3, 2025, 4:52 PM

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ivory ravine How the hell do I get a dark light

the dude in varrock castle, first room on the west side when entering the castle, can drop your emberlight/archlight and ask him for another and then just pick up your ember/arch

stuck cape Aug 3, 2025, 4:55 PM

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Tinfoil hat theory, drop scales off boss hp, and they fucked up making 9+ lower hp, and bc of that 9+ is the same drop rate as 5

plucky turret Aug 3, 2025, 5:08 PM

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was free prediction honestly

kind sandal Aug 3, 2025, 5:25 PM

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🎉

burnt lichen Aug 3, 2025, 5:26 PM

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🕶️

kind sandal Aug 3, 2025, 5:26 PM

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gotta protect the eyes

buoyant rose Aug 3, 2025, 5:29 PM

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better question is who dies on 5

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nothing gets harder

kind sandal Aug 3, 2025, 5:29 PM

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I think I die on 5 the most lmfao

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ah thats a lie, 2nd most

buoyant rose Aug 3, 2025, 5:29 PM

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also good reason to send 1-7 is getting a fuckton of tears for the wand

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eventually

kind sandal Aug 3, 2025, 5:30 PM

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(dont double check that)

leaden vault Aug 3, 2025, 5:30 PM

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wave 4 is deadly when im zoned out

kind sandal Aug 3, 2025, 5:30 PM

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5 should do 3 charges, its so sleeper

acoustic oak Aug 3, 2025, 5:31 PM

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That’s why 6+ is better

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3-5 stink

stuck cape Aug 3, 2025, 5:36 PM

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buoyant rose also good reason to send 1-7 is getting a fuckton of tears for the wand

You’re assumes you die by going 8+, which isn’t true once you actually do it and get comfortable

keen rapids Aug 3, 2025, 5:39 PM

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I died on 5 like three times yesterday I think I was just tired and complacent

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I lost a key half and some dart tips despair

nimble crest Aug 3, 2025, 5:44 PM

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1-7 reset meta 😂😂😂

stuck cape Aug 3, 2025, 5:50 PM

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Wait for the zoobs to start the 1-4 reset meta with 5k gravestone and dying between runs to restore pray and hp

kind sandal Aug 3, 2025, 6:06 PM

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Im gunna be deceased when the drop rates come out and it caps at floor 4

fallow terrace Aug 3, 2025, 6:07 PM

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is it just me or are loots 1-5 seem to have been decreased lol

buoyant rose Aug 3, 2025, 6:12 PM

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stuck cape Wait for the zoobs to start the 1-4 reset meta with 5k gravestone and dying betw...

holy cook king

night zephyr Aug 3, 2025, 6:35 PM

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stuck cape Wait for the zoobs to start the 1-4 reset meta with 5k gravestone and dying betw...

My best gear setup is already 6k death costs despair

buoyant rose Aug 3, 2025, 6:35 PM

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getting boots made me go from 12k to 50k

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sadge

desert thorn Aug 3, 2025, 6:37 PM

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I have like 217k cause I use ultor + fero gloves

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And a nhally

merry lotus Aug 3, 2025, 6:46 PM

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buoyant rose getting boots made me go from 12k to 50k

Actually trolled by bis boots politecry

buoyant rose Aug 3, 2025, 6:55 PM

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merry lotus Actually trolled by bis boots <:politecry:827845062661767201>

yeah fr im so sad i have these amazing tribrid boots

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(forcing me to farm rangers)

desert thorn Aug 3, 2025, 6:58 PM

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Is it worth it tho

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Farming rangers

stuck cape Aug 3, 2025, 6:59 PM

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+1 range strength may or may not matter for ur set up

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If it’s a max , it’s worth

desert thorn Aug 3, 2025, 6:59 PM

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PigYesHoney

dense ginkgo Aug 3, 2025, 7:02 PM

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desert thorn Farming rangers

They're passive on the way to greenlogging mediums

desert thorn Aug 3, 2025, 7:02 PM

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Im sorry clues are not content

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Actually clogging isnt a thing

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Thats just psy ops from hld

acoustic oak Aug 3, 2025, 7:04 PM

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real as fuck

winter garden Aug 3, 2025, 7:04 PM

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Clogging is a mental illness

nimble crest Aug 3, 2025, 7:04 PM

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fr

north axle Aug 3, 2025, 7:10 PM

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south vine just got pet #6, genuinely starting to think something is wrong with the rates (...

that's obscene

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fwiw I got my dupe cloth on 11

buoyant rose Aug 3, 2025, 7:28 PM

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desert thorn Is it worth it tho

1 max in toa

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im treating it as a passive grind rn with starmining for 92

opal lark Aug 3, 2025, 8:30 PM

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Anyone recommend a good video for learning waves 8+ for a scobo Andy? Pretty comfortable with 1-7 but struggling with the jump up in difficulty

north axle Aug 3, 2025, 8:32 PM

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pecanbread11 movie

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as usual

opal sparrow Aug 3, 2025, 10:02 PM

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opal lark Anyone recommend a good video for learning waves 8+ for a scobo Andy? Pretty com...

Reynolds video is bis for first timers

keen rapids Aug 3, 2025, 10:48 PM

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opal lark Anyone recommend a good video for learning waves 8+ for a scobo Andy? Pretty com...

Comfy way gnome taught me to deal with the double boulders is: when the first one breaks/turns off your prayer, click 4 tiles away. Then when you reach your destination, it is time to pray

craggy cobalt Aug 3, 2025, 11:09 PM

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that double boulder guide helped me a ton

keen rapids Aug 3, 2025, 11:11 PM

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also good, I think a lil harder to execute but more reliable

weary garden Aug 3, 2025, 11:18 PM

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opal lark Anyone recommend a good video for learning waves 8+ for a scobo Andy? Pretty com...

https://youtu.be/draz0HZBq00?si=-3LqKaWXjFmSImf2&t=1119

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Gnomonkey

NEW ROCKBLOCK TECH FOR MOKHA (OSRS)

Here is the final version of my Rock Block tech that will work for ALL waves, without ANY stipulations like thralls or 0 grubs up, etc and once all the bugs next week are patched, this will still be relevant and future proofed! This is VERY similar to the Car Park tech that was patched. No this wont get patched out and jmods have confirmed this ...

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I liked working on the Gnomonkey method. This clicked for me after dying to 8 a few times learning it

verbal edge Aug 3, 2025, 11:35 PM

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craggy cobalt https://medal.tv/games/osrs/clips/kM4OlZ4QimbSPvB64?v=120

this method works great

nova solstice Aug 4, 2025, 12:32 AM

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proven owl oh also to be clear, when i said you can use my setup if you have max I meant wi...

gotcha

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tyty

acoustic oak Aug 4, 2025, 1:13 AM

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For those of you that push deeper delves, are you binning thralls completely? I’ve been summoning them as shield ends for car dps, but that can increase acid if I have an orb

winter garden Aug 4, 2025, 1:42 AM

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Ya I stopped using them completely

verbal edge Aug 4, 2025, 2:01 AM

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i use them 1-5 and then on whichever wave is my last

leaden vault Aug 4, 2025, 2:30 AM

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surely before 3k my little scobo cant take no more

weary garden Aug 4, 2025, 2:36 AM

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holy

craggy cobalt Aug 4, 2025, 2:39 AM

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excited for Wednesday to see how spooned I am

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D8 drops exist still tho 😄

weary garden Aug 4, 2025, 2:47 AM

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I just want the uniques before I run out of quiver charges lmao

dense ginkgo Aug 4, 2025, 2:48 AM

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gotta claim the splinters more often

tacit slate Aug 4, 2025, 2:48 AM

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how does everyone have the boots?

minor tartan Aug 4, 2025, 2:52 AM

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How does everyone seem to have multiple items?

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I feel like a ton of people have the pet too.

celest robin Aug 4, 2025, 2:55 AM

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pet has to be gigacommon at 8+

winter garden Aug 4, 2025, 2:56 AM

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Oh that ones old, got a 5th pair shortly after lol

verbal edge Aug 4, 2025, 2:57 AM

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peperichsfw

weary garden Aug 4, 2025, 2:58 AM

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dense ginkgo gotta claim the splinters more often

Brother I still haven’t seen more than 2 splinter drops in those 779 delves lol

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I’d claim instantly if I saw a splinter drop. I’m convinced it doesn’t exist anymore for my account lmao

south vine Aug 4, 2025, 4:08 AM

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got a staff and another pet today, doing exclusively wave 1-7 now

verbal edge Aug 4, 2025, 4:21 AM

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16 drops skeesh

wary oriole Aug 4, 2025, 4:46 AM

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does the single rock bait where you bait him onto a rock on his middle tiel for the first vroom only work to the north and east?

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i just assumed because those were the tiles I imported but seems like it should work in all 4 directions?

tacit slate Aug 4, 2025, 4:52 AM

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only north and east work iirc, he just runs over the ones on the south and west

buoyant rose Aug 4, 2025, 6:48 AM

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south vine got a staff and another pet today, doing exclusively wave 1-7 now

was 1-7 feeling better or is it for afk purposes

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mentally

nimble crest Aug 4, 2025, 7:24 AM

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Bud is 1k deep delves don’t blame him for mixing it up

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And cloth is available wave 2 onwards

buoyant rose Aug 4, 2025, 7:46 AM

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no im asking what were his vibes on drops

snow charm Aug 4, 2025, 10:56 AM

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back to just doing wave 1-7 for a while

timber sandal Aug 4, 2025, 10:57 AM

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So for this boss u essentially just need scobo, dragon arrows, elite void, that's it? Or also darklight and C halberd?

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And I guess suffering I?

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Don't have enough d knives I don't think

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Plus anguish and assembler ofc

#Osto-Ayak (Doom of Mokhaiotl)