Yama - May 14

[atomic surge]

I will not be able to contribute at all until the slayer tile is done ngl

will be workge

[wraith summit]

I have mtg stuff tomorrow night so I'll tag you in

[plain raft]

i have attained the 1k kc with no new items

[tired ivy]

[plain raft]

never seen a duo drop, lasty drop at 491kc

[tired ivy]

Not ideal, but not as bad https://i.imgur.com/KnrdHcB.png

[cobalt jungle]

just horn hunting now

maybe 100 solos

[plain raft]

i have two horn and one oathplate contracts, 2 shard contracts

[cobalt jungle]

I had nearly the same

2 horn 1 oath but only 1 shard

[quiet flicker]

not even kc???

so what, u had to get 50 kc or whateever the fuck it is?

[plain raft]

those acquisition contracts just don't look really doable

[wraith summit]

I'm still a bit baffled they didn't nerf them more

iirc there still isn't anyone who's done oathplate or horn

People in the very upper end of skill are still at like 30-50% death rates on the shard one

[quiet flicker]

oathplate one seems decently nerfed tbh

shards one i mean

[cobalt jungle]

Like under normal circumstances I'd spend the time learning the contract to get my horn and dip

[quiet flicker]

ye those ones id just drop over tbh

[cobalt jungle]

But like Kirby still hasn't even figured it out

[wraith summit]

idk what the intention was really

[cobalt jungle]

I finished oath via shards and dropped my oath contract

[quiet flicker]

to create a moneymaking method for port

too bad hes busy with dmm prep rn

[wraith summit]

is it supposed to be so impossible that only like 5 people can do it, and all of them get 250m/hr?

[cobalt jungle]

But the horn ones are like 10m so I'm keeping them in case they actually become doable

[quiet flicker]

yes

i think thats what they were going for

[wraith summit]

actually fucking wild

[quiet flicker]

like 10000% telos

or whatever the fuck

in rs3

[wraith summit]

4000% enrage telos is like GM-tier iirc

so hard but more than port can do it

[quiet flicker]

oh

what about like 26k zammy

is that more comprable

[wraith summit]

idk, I never paid attention much to zammy

I know that telos was still the hardest thing though at least up until him

[quiet flicker]

gotcha

[wraith summit]

it's also a bit different when it's an enrage system, ya know?

you aren't dropped a "4000% telos auto-ticket", and it's required to use the ticket to do telos

meanwhile irons are getting a free unique which is, for all intents and purposes, useless toilet paper

[sacred badge]

4k Telos took over 13 months between release and the first clear

I have no idea if strats and or gear made it easier after that, but it's definitely not something that was released with the intent to be immediately beaten by some players like Radiant Yama and GM CAs

[plain raft]

they didn't touch the oathplate/horn at all, right?

they changed everything but those ones

[sacred badge]

The only thing like that we've ever gotten afaik have been solo Nex, solo TOB/HMT, and in-time 600 TOA

May also be a culture thing if there's a higher number of high end pvmers in OS than RS3 idk, I'm not a doctor

60k Zamorak didn't happen until four months ago, 2.5 years after release

[honest monolith]

I think it's mostly intentional differences in design philosophy

cuz the rs3 enrage systems are pretty much entirely player driven at the high end the same way solo shit in osrs or 600 invo toa is

[sacred badge]

Yeah, I'm just saying they're not really "intended" the way GM CAs are

[quiet flicker]

were gm's gonna require 5/5 from the start and they changed their mind?

[quiet flicker]

thats insane, and were already crying about something thats been out for 2 weeks

• already nerfed

[sacred badge]

No, only thing unexpected is being able to use pizzas to try for the CA

(unless they changed their mind before talking about it)

[quiet flicker]

i like how they did it, they realized how hard it truly is

and didnt put all of it in gm

while still giving u a flex cosmetic

[devout coyote]

they wouldve had to playtest them to realize how hard they are

[quiet flicker]

pizza contract is a bit of a stretch tho, but forfeit breath isnt too much more difficult

that is if u duo pizza contract ofc

[vast quarry]

should've been all 5 required

[hasty hedge]

Pizza contract?

[sacred badge]

[[pineapple pizza]]

[acoustic summit]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Pineapple_pizza

[wraith summit]

well that happened without really thinking about it

nothing to do with afk time anymore though

[sacred badge]

[[trouble brewing]]

[acoustic summit]

Wiki links found:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Trouble_Brewing

[ruby stump]

how long did this take?

[wraith summit]

idk honestly

[azure laurel]

What does this achieve? is it a 0 pvm armour set or just secondaries?

[ruby stump]

might get on it during my afk time so i can make my 3rd armour piece for when i get another non-dupe drop

[ruby stump]

you need it regardless if u have 2 pieces and enough shards to make ur 3rd

so might as well make it beforehand so u can just be done once u get ur 2nd armour piece

[wraith summit]

I played a lot of factorio and also built some mtg decks, so it was just a lot of farting around time I didn't track

iirc it's like 20 hours from the early estimations?

[ruby stump]

is it like stars level afk?

[wraith summit]

it's about 5 minutes oper rock

[ruby stump]

oh thats nice

[azure laurel]

Not extremely unlikely to get all 3 uniques before you have enough shards though? which would make the pre mining useless.

[ruby stump]

maybe for you

im at 1 armour piece and 500 shards lmao

[wraith summit]

on-rate is 2 items from drops and 1 from shards

when you're maxed and have nothing else to do, it's an effective use of afk time

[swift thistle]

I mean I definitely wouldn't pre mine it

[wraith summit]

the alternative is do nothing so

[swift thistle]

could go back to dancing with facts in craft guild 🕵️

[wraith summit]

[swift thistle]

👖

[sacred badge]

Do we know how the rock golem rate stacks up to amethyst/stars (if it can give it)?

[wraith summit]

I have no idea

[plush shadow]

u can now use purg staff instead of sang for forfiet of breath which is nice

dt much else has changed by having no demon resistance

[safe yew]

do you use purg staff on yama as well or is shadow still bis?

[tired ivy]

Melee with ArcLight/emberlight

[safe yew]

for the contract versions?

[plush shadow]

ye u can its prob harder though then jut maging it

glyphic (crush only) still to resistant to demonbane for it to be worth

[safe yew]

so ill prob start with forfeit of breath, is shadow or purg staff bis on yama?

[plush shadow]

shadow better purg staff for void flares

[quiet flicker]

Whats meta to grind contracts on demons?

[misty marlin]

Kill the demons with the styles that drop the contracts you need, or just follow the glyph rotation if you need all of them equally

[safe yew]

does this take into account that the made demonbnae weapons effective on the contract versions now?

[plush shadow]

thats what ive heard that shadow>purg regardless for contracts

[quiet flicker]

For bloodied blows u meN?

[plush shadow]

theres some wierd mechanic that he gains alot of magic defence leading to shadow being better

i think if u duo regular yama or something u can avoid that and make purg staff better

could be wrong but afaik shadow>purg staff dps

im only 2/5 so i dont really know that much

[safe yew]

im trying to figureout what my setup should be for starting contracts. I know before the changes yesterday alot of ppl were using shadow for most of them. Now that the boss is weak to demon bane weapons my thought is purging staff would be better except for the crush contract but I wasnt sure

[misty marlin]

yeah there's a common misconception that purging staff is better than shadow on Yama, which is almost never the case

and especially not in duos

[quiet flicker]

Im aware on yama

Just didnt know about void flares

[misty marlin]

yeah purging staff works on all contract flares now

just jumping into so idk what the actual question was

[plush shadow]

for divine serverance i prefered camping staff cuz 0 way swapping to deal with all the extra voidflares p3

im considering going magic route for sensory clouding to and camping staff maybe for p3 there as well

[misty marlin]

I think I'm gonna try this, was a pita to keep swapping back all the time

I'd take a longer kill with less apm

[plush shadow]

ye dps definitely felt worse but qol made it alot easier for me in my experince

[atomic surge]

will be doing that later

[faint lily]

How long does questing take from a 2017 main to get to WGS? Quested it for DT2 practice, but now I gotta get it ready to use purging staff for contract practice.

[atomic surge]

I got

the quest sigil from a bolt proc lmao

[faint lily]

Seems like it might just be defender of varrock + WGS?

[faint lily]

Quest sigil

[atomic surge]

spec sigil*

[quiet flicker]

Do u not have zcb?

Or is it acb specific cus i swear i only see acb users over here

[atomic surge]

Zcb owners are too good for this bullshit

[cobalt jungle]

so shadow camp is better in mage duos?

[misty marlin]

significantly. purging staff is just for speccing orbs

^ it would be irresponsible for me not to mention that the above claim assumes max gear and heart. I would be surprised if most people with a shadow had bad enough mage gear that purging staff would be better but it's worth checking in your setup if you are missing some mage items

[cobalt jungle]

I'm close to max except I use a dagonhai hat

When I calc it on normal Yama purging and fort ward looks better

But if hes gaining a bunch of defense that probably isn't the case

[misty marlin]

wiki DPS calc had a toggle for whether the tank is using mage or not

[atomic surge]

I think if you are brewing for contracts purge would just win?

[misty marlin]

if you're doing mage duos then he is using his higher defense

[cobalt jungle]

I'm my setup with dagonhai hat, shadow is on the left

[atomic surge]

dragon bolts e...

[vast quarry]

we're done boys

[quiet flicker]

lfg

now go get 30k aether

🙂

[vast quarry]

dont mind if I do

[sudden ocean]

👀

[atomic surge]

camping purge staff?

[vast quarry]

for sensory yeah

ill show u the vid that inspired me

[vast quarry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdwIn9kj9YY

[atomic surge]

these shits just arent dropping for me

I must say

[vast quarry]

mobile gamer..

use a cannon

cannon gives them

[atomic surge]

I'm up to 7

[quiet flicker]

very engaging content

[misty marlin]

Any tips for glyphic attenuation

I'm having a lot of trouble timing the glyphs with the specials

[quiet flicker]

dont go early

[vast quarry]

tons of brews

i didnt meteor skip and i just considered p1 and p2 as

"these are the two phases ill take damage, if i dont fuck up p3 i dont need more than 1 brew"

so if u need to take a 36dmg from fire glyph just do it

but p1 should be easy to make it so u only take 4dmg from it if ur good at dragging yama around

p2 if u dont meteor skip u just take dmg so gotta bring a bunch of food

[atomic surge]

just missed one cause I was too afk

sad

[vast quarry]

[misty marlin]

did you nofly with SRA for p3?

[vast quarry]

is nofly the 3t method

[misty marlin]

yea

[vast quarry]

yeah i just lose a lot of dps

1 sec

[quiet flicker]

did u just do stepbacks

without any thoughts really

trying to survive

not really a cycle to it?

[vast quarry]

pretty much and I have 3 tiles marked for skipping

[quiet flicker]

makes sense

i used 4t for enrage

even tho i was scything p1 p2

[misty marlin]

oh do you not need more than a 1way purging swap for orbs in this contract

[atomic surge]

ye

pray bonus is mage str as well

[vast quarry]

nope not with that gear I had

cus of prayer dmg buff

[atomic surge]

so you just pure freestyled?

[vast quarry]

so those cyan colors I have is right under yama

when the wave reaches that, I click on him to get an attack/skip them

and i move left and right based on where the center is

[vast quarry]

yeah it was the best way for me to do it with 5t

[atomic surge]

I'm thinking glyphic last

and i'll just learn 3t with hasta

I reckon that is better than scythe

[vast quarry]

idk how the defense scales for yama btw so i brought dwh and

specced him EVERY time i could

[atomic surge]

oathplate crush

[vast quarry]

cus soulreaper axe doesnt really hit unless u hit 2

[atomic surge]

i feel like on a main id just reset for hammer

[vast quarry]

yeah for sure

idk if patched but

I had a friend stand next to me at yama start with horn on, and same tick disbanded him to start contract fight + horn myself

then got a guranteed hammer in

[atomic surge]

did that actually work

or did you just get lucky

[misty marlin]

how does this setup look, 6 prepots would be brews

[atomic surge]

was it 100% consistent?

[vast quarry]

i only did it once, but it definitely was within the time frame before it ran out

[atomic surge]

when you say disbanded do you mean he teled out and you horned mid anim?

[vast quarry]

when u speak to yama after using the contract and confirm the fight

he then goes into a dialogue saying "you have a partner in here, they will be disbanded if you confirm"

[atomic surge]

[vast quarry]

then u click yes and spec at same tick

[atomic surge]

oh i see

i never saw that

[misty marlin]

did you kill both orbs when they spawned, or try and tick perfect hit the glyph

[forest lagoon]

what a guy

[vast quarry]

both orbs

doing tick perfect is risky

[misty marlin]

alright already way better lol, made those changes and immediately made it to p3

i was way too focused on dragging yama, who cares if you take a 36 if the alternative is being too far and dying

[quiet flicker]

orbs being unclickable for like 3 seconds is absurd ngl

i keep dying to it lol

[misty marlin]

any suggestions on what to do in this situation

i hate it when you have to hit fire sigil when waves come out

[vast quarry]

if instead of attacking u waited next to the glyph, u couldve clicked on it right when u saw the meteor spawn then click diagonal towards the closer wave skipping it, then immediately run over the other one

if the wave spawns first on the side where ur stepping onthe glyph u gotta do that maneuver

if it spawns late on that side its a bit diff, u gotta wait and time it with the other one

[surreal rock]

How bad is farming contracts now, do I bother bonding up my main to practice?

[vast quarry]

learning meteor skip is big for this since u go to the throne

[stiff dagger]

Alternative if you're not confident stepping through is to proc the glyph early then go north

[vast quarry]

and have a lot of time to get over those

i dont think he could do it early

this is the attenuation one so the timing has to be when the meteor spawns

think stepping on it tick perfect with the meteor spawning or before will end up making u take dmg

[stiff dagger]

Ahh okay

In that case yeah just try and be confident stepping through it, you'll feel comfortable after a couple successes and stop panicking

[misty marlin]

can you click right as you see metoer spawn? I thought meteor takes 4t to land and glyph only protects you for 2

[vast quarry]

I think right when it spawns you are delayed 1t actually

Yeah looking at ur video when it spawns u get delayed and can see when ur clicking it won’t move right away

it'll walk u to that "spam click" tile and the tick you reach it you click on the "run here" - this should work

[atomic surge]

is there always a timing to this based off meteor spawning?

I'll experiment a bit

also @misty marlin how is scythe going I heard it was dogshit

[vast quarry]

This works for when the first wave comes out on the side you’re on
If the first wave is on the other side it’s easier and reaction based

[misty marlin]

idk im hating this contract in particular

in this gear scythe maxes a 69-34-17

so that's cool, but like i might as well tp out if i miss hammers

scythe maxes a 120 but I still feel like my dps is about 5

but yeah did testing, prayer bonus is way better than melee strength and its not close

[winter seal]

39 dossiers, good droprates

[vast quarry]

going from contracts for 3 days to normal yama

normal yama fucking sucks

[lone storm]

Could you rank the difficulty of the contracts? I was feeling cocky after forfeit breath but p3 sensory clouding is giving me trouble. No scobow though

[sudden ocean]

i thought sensory clouding was like second hardest

5 breath
4 severance?
3 glyphic?
2 sensory
1 bloodied

if i had to guess from what ive seen (pre patch)

[misty marlin]

#1368632190723821729 message

[lone storm]

Oh that's a huge relief

[sudden ocean]

bloodied is probably a lot easier now since the update right? doesn't it only do half the chip damage

[lone storm]

I watch the videos of people doing it and think "yeah that's not TOO bad" and then I hit him maybe 4 times over 1 minute

[sudden ocean]

that wil probably be my experience yeah

[vast quarry]

yeah i'd put bloodied at 2nd or 3rd easiest now imo

[misty marlin]

im legit brickwalled at glyphic attenuation so its doomed for me then lol

[lone storm]

The 36% magic damage req for Divine Severance doesn't include Augury, right?

Guess I'm waiting for Delve boss :/

[atomic surge]

I'm gonna do severance next then bloody i suppose

isn't bloody still 1 mistake = die?

or is it just over really fast

[plush shadow]

ive seen ppl switch up and say sensory cloud is hardest now with changes due to increased enrage hp

[sudden ocean]

makes sense

[tired ivy]

Is there a relatively simple 3t method or is it still nerd shit?

[quiet flicker]

is bloodied blows enrage the same as forfeit breath

except ur 1hp?

[hidden lily]

I found greg's 3t video was a good way to learn

[sudden ocean]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG05xEhsnkY

greg's vid is this re-explained and tweaked a little afaik

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CZjKw_e04Q

[tired ivy]

Can I be bothered is the question

[sudden ocean]

Shit sucks to practice

Spend a couple minutes getting there in a solo, explode when you fuck up a little bit

[tired ivy]

Is it useful for contracts? I have barely looked at them at all

[sudden ocean]

Glyphic attenuation (crush only) apparently

[tired ivy]

I will send the 7t elder maul and you cannot stop me etc

[sudden ocean]

I just need to get the speedrun and the perfect kc then i will dismantle my emberlight and start doing contracts

[tired ivy]

surely i don't get to 600 without armor right? https://i.imgur.com/WxMFEPY.png

[misty marlin]

this is all anecdotal but I counted my hits in a duo using simple vs my donoflyer friend, the first KC with both did 12 hits, the 2nd KC I did 16 hits to their 15, and the 3rd I did 13 to their 12

I think how many ticks it gains depends on RNG of North south vs east west hourglasses

[radiant sky]

even using all 6 cycles it still doesnt feel impactful at all really

it is more fun tho

[digital jetty]

For what it’s worth it’s not a hard req. u can just 2 hit the orbs instead of 1 hitting them

[radiant sky]

and getting the double ultra god cycles truly is worthy of the name

[misty marlin]

also for glyphic attenuation it doesn't seem like you can just do nofly, cause the waves are shifted around by a tile which breaks it

so you have to adapt anyway

[radiant sky]

does it break the ultra god cycle cuz you're so far south?

im not rly sure how it would affect nofly otherwise

i still dont own that contract yet tho so i cant say ive tested

[misty marlin]

you can't just brianlessly use the same tiles, cause you'll have to skip the waves in a different place

[radiant sky]

but wave skipping isnt rly part of the cycles

you finish the cycles and then go back to whatever wave skip tile you like

i did see one contract where more bombs were thrown out so if its like that then that would prob fuck you up

[misty marlin]

I've only made it to p3 a couple times and it's always under duress so idk for sure

[radiant sky]

ive been in a clan comp until 1 hour ago so i havent touched any of them lol

[tired ivy]

For the perfect kill how do you deal with the waves at the same time as the fireballs p3? I've gotten the bad habit of running towards the boss, but that fucks the "1 tile away" thing

Been just running some money solos and maging p3 if still perfect

[winter seal]

think u just want to rotate more west or east to change it so the timing doesn't align

[radiant sky]

i honestly have no idea what you guys are talking about lol

is this low geared solos and a part i just never reach or something

or is it maging?

maging from south ud prob get bombed same time as waves i guess?

[quiet flicker]

idk i just ran for mylife

[atomic surge]

Do it in a duo with a meleer

you won't even see that part

[quiet flicker]

do it duo

with someone who has already done it

ye

its a personal achiev

not team

[tired ivy]

oh lol

[quiet flicker]

yep

kinda funny

[radiant sky]

i just did kirby nofly during money kills with my teammate donoing

[atomic surge]

wow very impressive

[misty marlin]

i solo nofly'd it, wasn't too bad

[radiant sky]

not really ^^

but im guessing thats why ive never seen this part of the fight where bombs happen during waves when you nofly?

but i havent seen it in solos either

[misty marlin]

i think you can also just facetank melee?

like if you really just wanted it done do the meme "melee-purging spec-repeat" cycle

[radiant sky]

that would be a very silly oversight

[misty marlin]

and jagex has never been silly before, true

idk I think i saw someone in this channel or hld say it works

but havent tested myself obv

[sudden ocean]

i have been told that as well

[radiant sky]

yeah it probably works then i hope they fix it tho

[fossil otter]

i think bloodied bloods is 3rd and glypic and clouding are more harder now after the patch

[misty marlin]

glyphic feels so troll

if you miss hammers you just do 60% of the dps

[sudden ocean]

its crazy that "glyphic attenuation" is the melee only one and not "bloodied blows" or "sensory clouding"

[fossil otter]

joe watermelon had some good p3 melee tiles for clouding

[royal anvil]

r these plugins good for yama speed or r they not updated yet?

[faint lily]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqmaQvEO3B4

I did this 1nd for contract choreographer

prob faster than maging p3 too

[radiant sky]

surely when they remove 2 min thralls from gm they will stop making joke cas

[sudden ocean]

wym joke cas

[tired ivy]

Lol so exactly what we did for afk melee before learning donofly

[radiant sky]

every ca except the potion one can be done by just doing money kills like normal and the contract one isnt even all oathplate recolour contracts

[sudden ocean]

oh so easy ones

i thought you meant like pizza food ones

[radiant sky]

easy and lazy

like the vardorvis dodge axes during enrage for a minute or whatever it was is an interesting ca with some thought behind it

[sudden ocean]

symptom of them releasing cas 2 weeks after boss release i fear

idk why they started doing that

[vast quarry]

Not having to do all sigil contracts and an acquisition (or 100 pineapple pizza) for gm is silly

[radiant sky]

it made sense when u were lucky to own 3 sigil contracts at yama greenlog but now its just dumb

[sudden ocean]

i could see them not being confident enough in the kit contracts to require them all for gm

especially since they didn't fucking test them properly

[tired ivy]

they will keep adding hard shit and make it harder than gm

[radiant sky]

just make gm harder instead

they're removing the only gameplay buff gm gave with 2 min thralls so why not make gm actually mean something by itself then

[sudden ocean]

@true furnace Master of Combat with 0 pnm kc

[true furnace]

Always have been xd

[tired ivy]

There's 0 chance they make it harder at this point

[radiant sky]

i mean i probably agree with you i just think they should do that

[true furnace]

make grander master CAs and make them harder :^)

[radiant sky]

you're clearly not much of a grandmaster of combat if you can't even clear all the combat encounters released by jagex

[true furnace]

also I'd argue ppl who have master with 0 colo 0 inferno are worse

[radiant sky]

id argue sigil contracts being on the list makes more sense than any speedrun times being on the list

[balmy raft]

15kc gwd is big for nex

i legit plan to get gm before grinding nex for that reason alone

[sudden ocean]

yea i personally feel like it doesn't make sense to grind nex items before being gm

[radiant sky]

ye but they alrdy deleted nex from most irons minds with oathplate

[true furnace]

the only problem with GM is u maintain nex kc so ur in perpetual jail

with master CAs i could leave when it got to 0

[atomic surge]

solo tob has never and will never be on gm'

[tired ivy]

Nah it means you value nex KC at basically 0 so you can leave at any time

[radiant sky]

ye cuz solo tob wasnt intended by jagex to be a possible combat encounter

[true furnace]

tell that to all the GMs i know who didn't do that

[sudden ocean]

neither was solo cox but that's still a ca

but i agree solo tob shouldn't be a ca

[atomic surge]

it has a timer

[tired ivy]

Honestly at this point idk if gettig a completion is any harder than the other "hard" cas

[atomic surge]

ironically tob has a 1 scale timer but yama does not

[radiant sky]

i think when cas were released cox was intended to be soloable

[atomic surge]

neither does awakened yama which is forced solo

[radiant sky]

it prob wouldnt be a ca to solo cox if they came out shortly after cox release

[sudden ocean]

but you could then argue that tob is intended to be soloable now because they made the red crab change

[radiant sky]

ye i think you could make an argument for adding cas for solo tob after they started patching it but they just have never retroactively added cas like that to old content afaik

[sudden ocean]

true, only way i could see it is if they added a grandermaster tier, which i don't love the idea of

i think the community comes up with challenges fine on their own

don't feel the need for significantly harder official challenges

[radiant sky]

eh maybe we're just different, I've never rly been interested in community challenges like clan diaries or competing for wrs

[balmy raft]

i have no interest in doing a no pillar inferno but if they added a super gm tier with that in in and the rewards was a stupid teleport to nowhere useful or some cosmetic i have no doubt i would try it

[atomic surge]

Maybe when they make an official client with official plugins somebody will make super gm into an official client plugin

jagex would never make a satisfying one

[sudden ocean]

but then as soon as they add official rewards people will wah that it's too hard and it'll get diluted

[radiant sky]

ye i just think since they're trying to make gm only cosmetic (and nex i guess) they have an opportunity to make it actually good and avoid a lot of the pushback that they'd get if redditors lost their thralls

[tired ivy]

Cosmetic only except for the inferno/caves dorks

[sudden ocean]

i do absolutely feel like this is a step in the right direction

[radiant sky]

ye but im sure if you're competing for zuk wr you can handle most of the challenges they could make

[tired ivy]

I mean there's lots of people who like inferno but are nowhere near wr

And for 99% of the inferno dorks, all the cas are just busywork to get back to the shit they actually want to do

[radiant sky]

I wouldnt be against moving the nex and zuk benefits to master too if you think that would make ppl support it more, i just want fun and difficult gm tasks

[tired ivy]

Think the answer to that is just gm+1

[radiant sky]

i mean id be fine with that too

[balmy raft]

if the sigil for the chasm demons is the "kill while bound" and I barrage them and then kill with scythe am i still rolling for the bound contracT? I have only 4 of those contracts and way more of the rest

[true furnace]

yes assuming it's still frozen

[sudden ocean]

so "Back so soon?" is a soft duo req because the passive damage over time counts as damage you need to avoid right?

if so, kinda sucks that you basically can't get the perfect yama task in a solo

or can you just dps spec the hell out of the judge

[misty marlin]

I was able to do it by just killing judge without missing ticks in a solo, using Emberlight and 3 way purging

[sudden ocean]

oh huh i actually did it fine that time

maybe i was just last attempt

[tired ivy]

I hate how you can "fail" to shadows as it procs

[faint lily]

Going for GM time without shadow. Would you guys say purging at judge is worth more than veng?

My trident maxes a 35 :(

[atomic surge]

it doesnt matter

if you and your duo have enough switches you can still get the 2 mage 2 melee judge

bring a gs whack maybe

but it shouldnt magtter too much

[faint lily]

My duo has shadow so I'll try and pay attention to make sure we are still getting 2 melee 2 mage judges tomorrow

Oh I guess I can get an extra step under since I'll be on 4t mage to make up for it anyway

Also learned to not spellbook swap right at end of judge. My duo came in like 5 ticks late from the swap.

[sudden ocean]

just saw someone go in with full sunfire wish him gl on his contract

also is that actually good or

[tired ivy]

idk do we have the exact details of the prayer scaling

[misty marlin]

I did a bunch of testing, from what I can tell prayer bonus is almost always better than melee strength

the one exception in my setup was faceguard, made chainmace go from a 73 to a 74 max over sunfire helm

Scythe in this gear but rancour maxed a 120

[tired ivy]

Pot echo boots

[misty marlin]

like 600 kc and no thingy

but I would

[tired ivy]

I should really get that lol https://i.imgur.com/jtDS30u.png

[icy copper]

got mine doing CA's

[plain raft]

exciting update to my 1k yama log from yesterday

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lost-mind-share-this-cat-gif-10624429942940364630

i guess we're getting 900 shards and making 2 items

[faint lily]

Is the 36% magic DMG threshold for divine severance accurate?

Also assuming augury id imagine?

Trying to see how many anc pieces I can be missing post delve boss upgrades

Maybe it's simpler to ask what is the max hit on voidflare you need?

[misty marlin]

36% magic damage in gear tab, so not including augury

max mage + mages book or 2p Anc and 1p Virtus and unfortified ward

[faint lily]

I'm definitely doing post delve so should be pretty comfy with +3% from them

Thanks!

hopefully duke gives a virtus top or bottom at least but still will be able to hit 36% without them after delve

[cobalt jungle]

do you sceptre spec once or once per phase?

[digital jetty]

It is accurate for 1 hitting the orbs but it’s possible to just two hit the orbs and still get the job done

[umbral cradle]

mark of darkness

‼️

does anyone have a good method for pet contract solo

gunna stop trying for now thats just kinda painful lol

[quiet flicker]

What is it now

10x rate?

[vital copper]

Is it worth going Yama to do mage only method with blue moon gear, torm, infinity boots, purging? Mid 80s stats with 92 mage/hp.

Best melee gear is blood moon gear so don't think incorporating melee is viable?

[honest monolith]

I mean blood moon is roughly equivalent to bandos if you're just talking about chest/tassets so I don't see why that would matter

[vital copper]

Isn't the def much lower? I also haven't done tick perfect methods before so feel like I would get wrecked

Whereas mage appears much easier?

[honest monolith]

it's lower yeah but shouldn't be to a degree that makes a huge difference

I'm mostly just commenting on the fact that "my best melee gear is blood moon" doesn't really say much about your melee gear

[sudden ocean]

yippee

[vital copper]

Okay thanks. I was just looking at the wiki and it felt like melee was being used if you are cracked or in high end gear, whereas mage was for learners

[honest monolith]

the boss scales a lot off your gear with both mage and melee, mage is a lot easier though

[vital copper]

Do you have a guide you would recommend? When I looked on YouTube it was a lot of day 1 guides and feel like it would be more refined since then

[honest monolith]

I just mostly used the wiki guide

[quiet flicker]

Forfeit and ur free

[quiet flicker]

Is 27k catalyst only enough for 27k runes?

5/5 only to be blueballed by catalyst

[plush shadow]

man sensory clouding feels almost impossible for my small brain

[ruby stump]

Not to mention you're gonna spend ALL ur runes on the recolour so you still dont get to use them

Expecting Osto Ayak to drop these runes

[placid mirage]

any1 have tips for when to start donofly in duo? Do I click yama the moment his hand starts to move? just before?

[honest monolith]

the animation is 3 ticks, tick 1 he starts moving his hand, tick 2 he raises it fully, tick 3 he snaps

you click on tick 2

[radiant sky]

whats the best method for afking contracts?

[wintry moth]

what are bis resources for learning this from scratch?

[plush shadow]

imo depends if u wana duo or not

duo mostly just learn donofly/adjust for jelly as non host

solo is much harder cuz u have to learn extended cycle

[wintry moth]

hmmmmmm

my mindset is a little bit of i want to maybe do some shit kc, and then step up my game later when i feel like it

[plush shadow]

to put into prespective imo donofly is 95% efficent anything else is marginal

[wintry moth]

duo sounds the most reasonable to begin with

[plush shadow]

even the nofly stuff in duo amounts to maybe like an extra like 4-6ticks most likely

[wintry moth]

is donofly a bit like door-altar?

[honest monolith]

more like olm

[plush shadow]

more like olm head phase

u can get bac into cycle in a similar fashion

[honest monolith]

wouldnt rly use that comparison cuz head phase reqs improvisation to a degree

[plush shadow]

ye thats fair

[faint lily]

Id say it's like the noob gwd methods. A bit easier than door altar

[honest monolith]

in what world

[faint lily]

Maybe it's cause I got better at the game, but I learned donofly after like 3 tries, it's very easy. Click tile click boss.

[honest monolith]

I think you just underestimate how easy door altar is if you have actually played the game

[faint lily]

I know door altar is easy as it is. I'm just saying donofly was even easier

[honest monolith]

idk man I don't see how that's possible

although for transparency sake, I had to do like 1400 bowfa bandos

[faint lily]

At the very least it's quicker to learn than door altar because it takes 2 minutes to your next try vs. Dying, kcing, etc.

[honest monolith]

idk mechanically I think that's just an unflattering comparison because it's far more similar to 3:0 mage hand or smth wheras door altar is only really difficult cuz it's one of the first things you do on an iron when starting pvm

[faint lily]

I like the comparison to GWD methods more because your ticks/attacks on tiles are always the same. 3:0 mage hands lot more leeway on your 2nd hit

[honest monolith]

oh does it?

[sudden ocean]

door altar is a better comparison imo

[surreal rock]

I think its harder because its hard to recover from mistakes

[honest monolith]

I'm just biased maybe cuz I could do door altar in my sleep bcuz of how much I've done

[radiant sky]

i think door altar is probably easier too

[misty marlin]

Any tips for glyphic attenuation p3? I get pretty thrown off by the off shifted waves, and find it hard to get back into cycle

[misty marlin]

I never thanked you for this, been spamming attempts, but this has been really helpful

[quiet flicker]

Yep first u gotta go thru how many fkn contracts and death cost

Then they rub the salt in your wound with saying goodbye to 30k souls

Im already on my last alchs cus of pnm i prob might not even purify

[faint lily]

Lol we got a 2:36 money kill into a 2:21 when we dumped surge pots/all specs. Swapped to lunars for 2 more kills, got a 2:25 and got the CA. Don't even remember what we got before the 2:36, but got the CA with it.

[sudden ocean]

we kept getting 2:36ish with the tryhard strat then dropped a fat 2:21 for the ca

[faint lily]

We tried some try hard kills last night and didn't get anything sub 2:30. After like 3 tries, so said screw it, 2 money kills in a row around 2:35 and then go for try hard.

Then the nuclear 2:21 money kill dropped after a 2:36

Still didn't beat out like day 7 pb of 2:20 without even dumping specs.

[quiet flicker]

Ye same i have a 2:19 unbeat in like 400 kc lol

Rng is rng iguess

[radiant sky]

anyone know afk contract farming meta

[misty marlin]

double death'd to glyphic attenuation :/

I'm struggling with this one so hard

[atomic surge]

Afk on the greater demons 3 spawn northwest edge

I'm sure I've posted pics in this channel

There's a good tile for all 3 to aggro

[faint lily]

Dang that makes me realize double deaths won't work at all for radiant.

[dire knot]

forfeit breath has gotta be stupidly rare from black demons, i have way less of it

[balmy raft]

yeah same

[dire knot]

hate the contract system so much

[radiant sky]

whats the setup?

just melee with scythe or dt2 axe?

or halberd i guess

[atomic surge]

Depends what you want

Either afk scythe, afk crossbow, afk demonic grasp, afk undead grasp

Bring dbolt e/ bclaw /purge spec

[radiant sky]

okay

[civic epoch]

is the 36% magic dmg for divine severance a hard rec? or is it doable with less?

[atomic surge]

no but if you have to ask, probably

[civic epoch]

[atomic surge]

like it would be significantly harder

[plush shadow]

idt u need max max

could be wrong but i think when i did it i was hitting 84s

u only need 81 i think

[atomic surge]

you can miss 1 anc piece with badward, or 3 anc pieces with goodward

I thought you needed 84

this is 84 with augury but 81 with badaugury or no boots or anything like that iirc

[plush shadow]

ye im not 100% sure i just know to 1 hit lower hp ones u dont need absolute max^ cuz i had better gear then that even

[surreal rock]

anyone have a contract farming setup? for all contracts

[atomic surge]

I reccomend afk one at a time

this tile

[surreal rock]

so afk undead grasp for forfeit breach?

[atomic surge]

yes

but it's easy so you dont need too many

[surreal rock]

or any other opinion which one is the easiest for getting my helm back

[atomic surge]

forfeit

[surreal rock]

I've used two so far because skill issue

[atomic surge]

practice on your main

[surreal rock]

ye I should

wait I can practice while afking

[atomic surge]

yes

[surreal rock]

ok ty

[proud skiff]

anyone know how I can have yama hidden with only the outline showing but still have him with a clickbox? cant seem to figure it out since entity hider/better npc highlight hides him AND his clickbox and I swear I've seen some streamers hide him but still have his clickbox there

[plush shadow]

ive heard about ppl doing it with verzik idk hows its done

am curious to

[atomic surge]

blindfold

hide entities but not runelite objects

I think?

[proud skiff]

my hero, ty 🙂 this is it

[radiant sky]

does anyone have the id for the annoying drumming yama does lol

or how do you find sound ids

[winter seal]

4997

[radiant sky]

tyty

[surreal rock]

doing something wrong or just unlucky

got the other contract with staff spec randomly, goign for forfeit

[atomic surge]

each ko method is only one type

spec is 'spec' not 'mage' and 'spec'

[surreal rock]

ye I am just camping grasp normally I just sent some specs here and there

[atomic surge]

it's rare

[misty marlin]

the hammer rng on glyphic attenuation is so fucked

[atomic surge]

and your kph is terrible

[surreal rock]

[misty marlin]

im the biggest babyrager today

this contract blows

[atomic surge]

the wiki has them all as 'rare' but they do not all have the same droprate

bloody and sensory are more common

[radiant sky]

wizzy video on farming contracts when

[misty marlin]

glyphic attenuation complaining is over

[devout coyote]

sensory is making me bald

[tired ivy]

Buying sensory https://i.imgur.com/CZf0H2x.png

[sudden ocean]

Welp

[misty marlin]

scoreboard so far
Forfeit breaths: 10 attempts on main, 2 on iron
Divine severance: 21 attempts on main, 2 on iron
Glyphic attenuation: 94 attempts on main, 38 on iron

[atomic surge]

did you learn nofly for this?

[misty marlin]

I learned nofly beforehand, as preparation for it

I think that particular contract is extremely antithetical to my skillset. I'm very at dealing with "one shot" mechanics, and get distracted too easily from the "if you don't click this button at the right time you die" mechanic

So given that, I personally would not have been able to get the clear without knowing nofly. I need nearly a full set of supplies and I still got insane hit RNG that whole kill

[atomic surge]

this inconsistent timing is on severance is driving me nuts

i try to do half skip

and then it just doesn't spec in time

so they offset

should I just be full killing the 2 flares every time?

[misty marlin]

I think I did

just slow and steady

I camped purging staff the whole fight

left shadow in the bank

[misty marlin]

by 2 flares you mean the half HP one and the full HP non-shadow one?

cause I left the full HP shadow one alive and just protected with glyph. I didn't time the half HP one though, just killed it

[atomic surge]

sometimes the full hp shadow

would pop before he did the sigil attack

so i couldnt cover both

died here but i reckon i can send divine on the iron

i was seeing into the matrix on this one

[forest lagoon]

Is the simulator out yet?

[atomic surge]

what was I supposed to do here?

the special timing is so unpredictable

Think it might be that if he spawns 2 then 1 then you must half skip, if he spawns 1 then 2 then you cannot skip

in fact, it might be that if he specials after 1 attack on start then you must half skip, if he specials after 3 attacks then you can't skip

[misty marlin]

when he spawns the orbs I just always clicked on one immediately, not matter which it was, but preferring the red orb. he always spawns the half orb a second later, so you hit the red orb to half, and then can spec>spec

[atomic surge]

this is not true always

sometimes he spawns 1 orb right before the 2 orbs

in which case he won't special for 4 attacks

so you have 28t but you must kill all

[misty marlin]

hmm I can't remember that happening but I believe you

isn't what you did fine though?

[atomic surge]

yeah but then i have no glyph

for next round

[sudden ocean]

does anyone actually know whether black/greater demons have higher contract drop rate than lessers

[atomic surge]

they do

[sudden ocean]

any thoughts on killing lessers to get through a glyph you don't like faster

kinda moot at this point since i need them all still

[twilit parcel]

should i grind out spirit flakes before using all my worms?

[radiant sky]

did you guys all spoon yama items

i feel like im getting a lot of contracts from yama tbh

did some kills again today and im not sure if i even need to go afk farm demons if i just go for pet

[devout coyote]

no i did the bulk of my kc before updates

[quiet flicker]

ye spooned and opened old dossiers

[tired ivy]

No I have 0 armour pieces

[radiant sky]

are you gonna do contracts before armour?

[tired ivy]

Nah I'll do 1 for GM and that's it

[radiant sky]

ye i got a dossier drop for the easy one and just did that earlier today

[quiet flicker]

im waiting for 30k aether nerf

surely its coming

[radiant sky]

but prob not gonna touch the rest for a thousand more yama kc or so

ye im not gonna make my armour white even after i have the sigil lol

[quiet flicker]

same

i did make 15m from the boss but eh

[radiant sky]

unless i go 3-4x for pet

[quiet flicker]

thats all i ahve

and god knows when pnm grind will be over

[radiant sky]

im assuming you mean 15k?

15m would be a lot of runes

[quiet flicker]

no i made 15m form yama

in alchs

barely use anything cus melee camped all of it

[radiant sky]

ye its nice that its a relatively 0 cost boss to do

it doesnt drop a whole lot of loot but it adds up slowly

[quiet flicker]

ye

thats one thing i wouldve done diff

prob done sgs instead of burn claw

used alot of hardfood

[radiant sky]

eh i just swap to sharks and you get more than infinite of those

if i do 2 divine trips i sustain from sgs and with 1 divine trips sharks are more than enough

[quiet flicker]

ye

i did all of my kc before real tech was rly out

i was taking 12 from red glyph lol

it adds up

[tired ivy]

I'm still not convinced about this afk in the middle to reduce glyph damage baloney

[radiant sky]

ye fuck that

i do it for p1 cuz u can just move when he's stuck in his animation

and not lose ticks

[quiet flicker]

u dont lose anything by doingit tbh

[tired ivy]

Save a couple damage from glyph, tank 20 more damage in melees

[quiet flicker]

oh are u doing like stepbacks or something?

[radiant sky]

im way too lazy to pull him to avoid melees

[tired ivy]

I kinda like it

although for duos it feels like overkill

just got in the habit from doing no-alt solos

[atomic surge]

I just want ot get them over with

[plush shadow]

about to reach 100attempts on sensory clouding

[sudden ocean]

would it be nuts to send bloody blokes before forfeit breath

i only just learned how to dodge the offset shadow waves

[atomic surge]

I'm gonna do it third

[atomic surge]

I still cannot get this shit

idk man

[sudden ocean]

i have like a dozen bloke scrolls and 0 vape scrolls

[atomic surge]

whatd you use to figure it out

[sudden ocean]

kirby vid

[atomic surge]

after severance

i will watch that

[sudden ocean]

i should be sending solos to get more comfortable with it + get oathplate instead of farming trash demons

i worry that it won't translate super well to contracts

i.e. the glyph timing and no offset waves

[tired ivy]

idk how much transfer there even is between money solos and contracts

[atomic surge]

10 death in a row on iron into 2 kc in a row on main

epic

2/5

[misty marlin]

ayy lets go

do glyphic last

[atomic surge]

is this a typo

[misty marlin]

stick with the 4 mage ones

[atomic surge]

yeah next up is bloody

[misty marlin]

I haven't done bloody or sensory yet but I think the best potting order is forfeit -> divine -> bloody -> sensory -> glyphic

[atomic surge]

my thoughts aswell

[devout coyote]

thats the order i did the first 3 in at least

ran out of sensory and glyphic tracts

[limpid island]

how do yama glyphs work? i cant tell if voidflare counts as one (im supposed to just skip over) or not? ive been getting fkd by ball on p2 sometimes

i thought it just literally went clockwise

[runic obsidian]

it always goes in order starting from the glyph closest to the boss

if it spawns flares instead of the regular special attack then you dont move glyphs

(unless using the glyphs to null the flares ofc)

[atomic surge]

so apparently I had always been dodging 1 row ahead of throne which just doesn't work for L movement scuffed waves

so my timing was right but it just doesn'tr work

[quiet flicker]

ah in context of solos prob but duos are so fast

u maybe take a 6

thru all of p1 p2

cus of how fast u phase in max + mauled

[limpid island]

i swear he sometimes skips one glyph

he did it twice this kill

after the first rotation, skips closest glyph

[runic obsidian]

when you say first rotation, do you mean after you've done all 5 glyphs?

[digital jetty]

By after first rotation u mean it went all the way around back to the throne he’s not gonna do two back to back specials of the same style. It will always alternate starting with that glyph which is closest to throne

[runic obsidian]

in that case yes you have to skip one

[atomic surge]

thats not how it works

the special attacks alternate

but there are 5 glyphs

so you do have to skip after rotation yes

there's 2 of each + a spare

[runic obsidian]

the two closest to boss are the same color so after you finish the circle you have to skip one to not get b2b

[limpid island]

ok that makes sensel mao

i was so confused

[faint lily]

How are you guys sending contracts rating difficulty post nerfs? I feel like most of them aren't really easier, just more consistent/less of a slog yeah? Still harder than awake and vard/Levi?

I've gotta get quite a few mage upgrades before I try to send.

[limpid island]

what do i need to know for duos if ive done a few mage only solos, is anything different really? other than just one person has to hit the glyphs?

[faint lily]

start learning melee p1/p2 if you aren't. and then learn a fly method for melee p3

Both apply to solos and duos

[dire knot]

im trying to practice on a main and my purging staff autocast keeps getting unset

not just after death, like after attacks..? wtf

[stiff dagger]

it might be after death but you just don't notice for a while because the special attack continues to work

[umbral cradle]

it also can drag u into melee

[dire knot]

fair, that sounds right

[dire knot]

damn i am just not getting this. this feels nothing like awakened grind

not good at dealing with 3 bajillion things at once

[quiet flicker]

dont say that

u can do it

[dire knot]

im like 20 attempts in at one of the "easy" ones

as if p1 and 2 werent hard and tedious enough on severance, enrage is insane

[quiet flicker]

just cause theyre the easy ones of the bunch doesnt make them exactly easy

theyre all rly hard

synq went like 48 hours without a single completion dont beat ur self up about it

[dire knot]

took a break on severance and got forfeit finally at least

too bad i have 0 of those contracts on the iron

[dire knot]

so is the move to farm lessers as fast as possible til you get sigil you want then kill black demons

[dire knot]

yay alright...i feel a lot better now...severance is my brickwall tho

[limpid island]

aether runes seem kinda like a flop no? barely enough to use long term? or am i wrong here

[carmine cove]

surely they're great for mains

just coz irons cant sustain them

which seems intentional

[plush shadow]

idk i dont see going through a ton of runes if im only using dc/thralls seems ez enough to get bac relatively fast

imo big problem is sinking 30k for radiant

[sudden ocean]

30k aether is about what you get for completing all the items

[plush shadow]

ye if im just using thralls/dc i think itd last me for my raids grinds 30k runes

maybe not but looking at maybe 15-20 runes a raid max prob less

[sudden ocean]

just not worth using aether anywhere on iron if you ever want to have radiant plate

[plush shadow]

i agree on that ye

[wintry moth]

valid setup?

[plush shadow]

way to much restore imo

i bring like 6max extended antivenom always worth using if u have/can get imo

bclaws+dwh really nice if someone has horn

[wintry moth]

ok i just copied the gear disc

probably not good for learning lol

[plush shadow]

otherwise i just save all my spec for emberlight def reduction spam

[wintry moth]

can i learn dono in a duo even if my friend does someo ther shit

[plush shadow]

ye

u can use diffrent variants of donofly and still works

or if they mage

[wintry moth]

am i really gonna check out theoatrix's yama guide loll

purging staff on demonbane, yes?

two shots the jellies?

[plush shadow]

should 1shot p3

and u can null jellies p1/p2

[wintry moth]

ok

i leeched mechanics from my duo

but p3 shafted me

they want me to only mage yama p3 while i learn

[split pagoda]

[wintry moth]

[faint lily]

Definitely bring some more mage switches if you are doing mage only P3 to learn

Otherwise you are giga leeching.

[wintry moth]

yeye

on p3, yama alternates between mage and range?

[split pagoda]

yes

[plush shadow]

if ur wanting to mage i definitely wouldint dd just spread out

so u dont rag each other

one of u can decide ill be north/south or east/west

etc

[misty marlin]

the fireballs are unique to each person, you can't get hit by your friends

[plush shadow]

i didint know that but i think its still easier to tell who has fireballs/who needs to doge/can chill

[misty marlin]

ladlor, do less clicks. fireballs drop in a straight line -- go perpendicular to it, then diagonal, then straight

the movement kind of looks like an L shape in 3 steps

[plush shadow]

but in the clip they both were getting hit by fireball no?

[civic epoch]

because both fireballs happen at the same time but u literally dont see your duos ones

[misty marlin]

yes, but his buddy was getting hit by his on fireball spawns

because they're both sprinting around randomly

[plush shadow]

i dont really see point just seems like much harder cordination/less spread out for voidflares apart from aura

[misty marlin]

I'd entity hide your buddy prob, the upside is that you can dodge the shadow waves on the X from that tile

[plush shadow]

but i havint done much mage duo yama

[azure laurel]

I only did Yama on day 1 and then a few kills yesterday for bingo.

But my duo gave me a tip for getting prayers right, you see a big flame on you when it’s mage and shadow on you when it’s range

Easier than watching his hands imo

Probably very obvious to people who have done a lot

[misty marlin]

I watch my character for the animation/go by sound cue

[azure laurel]

I found on character animation easiest

[atomic surge]

Some fascinating new glyphic tech in cacord

[misty marlin]

unironically thought about that lol, felt like it would be troll though

12 min fight, actually faster than pecan's cudgel kill by 2 min

does the prayer boost make ruby bolts do more damage or something

[atomic surge]

apparently

[misty marlin]

that's kinda troll, hope they fix that

[radiant sky]

best way to learn yama imo is bring 6 way mage, always attempt entering donofly start of p3 and when you fail go mage instantly

just dont get meleed and then keep trying to donofly cuz ur hardcore ragging your friend then

ive helped a bunch of ppl learn donofly with that strat so far

[wintry moth]

oh ok

[misty marlin]

okay that's troll as fuck, they need to hotfix that tomorrow

unironicallly this makes this setup about the same dps as my setup without DWH, and the fight is 100x easier

he doesn't walk at you if you range him, so you can always take 0 chip from his attacks, you don't need to pray offensives, and the chip and prayer drain from glyphs is minimized

[atomic surge]

yeah thats why I'm doing it today

[misty marlin]

like I don't want people to suffer like I did, but like suffer a little bit at least

[faint lily]

So to just 100% bolt proc RNG?

[misty marlin]

and VW specs, I assume they camp LB

[atomic surge]

it normalizes so it's just bolt proc dps at that point

[misty marlin]

vw specs are mage so he also doesn't walk at you

[atomic surge]

are you sure that he wouldnt?

[misty marlin]

yeah I tested

and with double dc you probably get a decent number of specs

[atomic surge]

LMFASO

i actually just 1nded it

[sudden ocean]

What the

So like

[atomic surge]

it's just a mage yama

but with range

[sudden ocean]

Normal bolt hits are probably mega inaccurate right

[atomic surge]

and then you vw the last 100hp

i mean

[sudden ocean]

Just relying on procs for dps?

[atomic surge]

it hit more than i expected ngl

but yeah just bolt procs

[sudden ocean]

But the procs are huge

That's hilarious lmao

Might give that a try

[misty marlin]

it's actually gross that the DPS in that setup is similar to melee

258 defense and 80 crush defence is not "weak to crush" lol

[plush shadow]

https://i.imgur.com/HSDdZey.png man thats so cheese 3/5 though

[atomic surge]

b2b 1nd lol

[plush shadow]

forgot how easy the other stuff was compared to sensory brickwall

[misty marlin]

I mean this in the most loving way possible but I hope they fix that tomorrow and make you do it again

[plush shadow]

i wouldint mind this is cakewalk with or without cheese

might be downplaying but lb vw spam p3 or 6-7tick mace to make it easier

[misty marlin]

I don't expect an actually good player to take nearly as long as I did but it shouldn't be one and done lol

[wintry moth]

ok im getting ready for learning this again a bit

[plush shadow]

i think if u play it really safe it wouldint be to bad still

obv way harder then range but ye

[wintry moth]

learning in solo is viable or neh

[misty marlin]

is just a lot harder to melee is all

[plush shadow]

u dont have to maxmize ticks just hit it witohut being meleed

[misty marlin]

takes way too long to get to p3 in solo

[wintry moth]

i see

if any of u need a mage thrall hmu

[faint lily]

Still holding on to the khopesh I see.

[radiant sky]

im reporting you all to my uncle who works in jagex

i think im just gonna melee it tbh, i was already salty that the contracts were all mage

ranging it is gonna kill all the fun for me probably

[misty marlin]

they just need to make it so Glyphic Yama has 145 defense at base so there's no hammer rng

then it's a kind of balanced contract

[wintry moth]

sending this solo isnt trolling, right

[plush shadow]

its gona be really good practice for sensory i considered doing it for that alone

[misty marlin]

solo Yama is slightly worse than duo but it's nice to learn at your own pace

don't think to hard, just pot by yourself or with whoever is around

[wintry moth]

kk

i dont have any one i can leech rn so seems solo send is the way to go

lmk if any of u boys need a thrall

[misty marlin]

btw idk if you saw #1368632190723821729 message

highly recommend clicking less and being more precise

it's 3 movement clicks to dodge p3 fireball attack, that's it

[radiant sky]

i can pot 1 trip if ur okay with me teleing out if my delivery shows up lol

ordered food 15 min ago and they said an hour but they also tend to lie

[wintry moth]

sure

[radiant sky]

okay im 519 do you have horn or elder maul

[wintry moth]

nop i have dwh

[sudden ocean]

@timber summit ?

oh

[timber summit]

o

[sudden ocean]

maybe after elyas is done lol

[wintry moth]

omw

dam

[sudden ocean]

i would pot duos but busy with house stuff

i def wanna try this glyphic thing in case they decide to patch it lmao

[plush shadow]

legit only logging on to do contracts senesory might take me 2months though after that dm potting

[radiant sky]

oh that guy is in my clan

[radiant sky]

im inside btw

[wintry moth]

this means block with glyph?

[sudden ocean]

yes

[wintry moth]

like shadow one?

[sudden ocean]

yes

he can replace that attack with summoning void flares, in which case you don't want to touch purple circle immediately

but red special is always a touch red circle

for p1/p2 void flares in solo there are a couple different ways you can do it

in contract it's simple because void flares popping lines up with when you need to touch the purple circle, so you just kill red flare if anything

in normal if you have a purging staff you can just kill both colors, that's prob the simplest way

otherwise you need to use an extra glyph to protect from them popping and protect from the next spec

[atomic surge]

you reckon I am safe to drop the complete contracts now?

[misty marlin]

I did

forfeit breath was cash money yesterday

did they make people redo awakened whisperer when they bug fixed that fight, icr

[atomic surge]

no

[misty marlin]

https://x.com/OldSchoolRS/status/1759900419331858733

Old School RuneScape (@OldSchoolRS)

🐞 Last week we hotfixed a bug where Sanity wasn't draining correctly at Whisperer.

🩸 We're removing Awakened Whisperer killcount for any players who got their first kill while this bug was active. We know you're more than capable, but just want to make absolutely sure!

X · Feb 20, 2024, 11:18 AM

[atomic surge]

oh really

didnt know

[misty marlin]

I'd hang on to glyphic attenuation then

[atomic surge]

it's not quite the same thing

as they don't even track kc

just the item

but yeah

[wintry moth]

does the big flame ball turn ur run off?

[plush shadow]

it does ye

[wintry moth]

ah

[plush shadow]

u can time it so u can run as it happens

[wintry moth]

i shouldve had a recording, but it feels like it also prevented me from walking even

[misty marlin]

hmm it's also wacky because this is a bug with an item rather than the fight itself

[wintry moth]

seems elyas wanted me to anticipate it would be dropping by pre-moving

[misty marlin]

so they wouldn't globally remove all purifying sigil bottoms

[radiant sky]

no i wanted you to stand next to the fire glyph so you could walk 1 tile and reach it

or i guess ye that would be anticipating it

[sudden ocean]

it nulls any movement you have queued when it first spawns (except if it's a red x movement? idrk how that tech works)

so it can feel awkward

be careful not to get hit by crawling flames when that happens

cause that's gg

[misty marlin]

fire inchworms cannot hit you as long as you are moving at all btw

[plush shadow]

ye even walking works i think

[radiant pendant]

So ur able to just camp zcb entirely crush contract ?

[plush shadow]

ye

[surreal rock]

got it with some practice but took me more iron attempts than I want to admit lul

[atomic surge]

it's basically practice for the other contracts which are forfeit + additional mechanics

[surreal rock]

hopefully ye

[humble kayak]

do we know which demon is best to farm for contracts?

drop rates arent listed on wiki

[atomic surge]

droprates scale based on tier

but I prefer greaters because of this afk spot

blacks are too spread out

[humble kayak]

kk tyty

[radiant sky]

is horned up bclaws or emberlight smack best now that its been patched

if you're the horn user

[misty marlin]

I'd be pretty surprised it bclaws werent better

[atomic surge]

It's not

[honest monolith]

explain the alts

[quiet flicker]

Bruh

What is that cheese

After all my hard work and struggle 😭

[quiet flicker]

Tbh idt they would roll them back in this case cus ppl got it day 1 and noone knew about this shit back then

Unless they track date acquired

Which i doubt

[wintry moth]

rough boss

all my bwans before i make it to the third phase lol

[misty marlin]

how much hp do the p3 orbs have in bloodied blows?

[wintry moth]

@ me if anyone wants to duo

am a yama learner rn

this one still valid'?

[radiant sky]

all fly methods are roughly the same tbh and they will all work except for some small inconveniences depending on the method

gregs is mostly recommended cuz its the easiest to learn solo with i think

and knowing how to solo will up your kph by a decent bit even if you only duo since ur partner dies sometimes

[bleak moat]

I thought you were cooked when you posted that vid @atomic surge. You are actually a chef

[atomic surge]

nah I saw it in cacord

idk if the guy who posted it there came up with it

[bleak moat]

This is what peak ranging performance looks like. You may not like it, but it is what it is.

[atomic surge]

turns out pray above 50 doesnt matter very much