#CG question

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spare tinsel
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Hi, i chinned to 89 range, and 82 defence

I got mage 89, 90hp and 74 prayer..

I can do easily normal gauntlet with like 4 food and t1 armour.

I did t1 armour and t3 weapons on cg - got him down to 211hp.. the fight takes literally forever.. never got hit by tornados, only the lava floor but not often.. what should i do?,

Tryhard to T2 armour?
Training my stats?

.. i really dont know.

And i dont have rigour

idle lodge
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practice more

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your stats are completely fine

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t1 armour with two t3 weapons is the best strategy

soft belfry
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if you can record a run that would make it easier to diagnose the issue, your stats should be fine though. You can improve (make more effort to not miss hits), or do t2

idle lodge
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not having rigour is fine (id even argue it can be an advantage)

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just dont fall for the t2 bait imo and practice more

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it's very normal to have 10+ or even 30+ deaths before your first cg kc. Regular gauntlet is not at all comparable, and it's not realistic to expect that one prepares you for the other

spare tinsel
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Alright alright thanks alot guys, then time to improve 🥲

@soft belfry i really dont know which free program to use for recording😅

Ohh alright iron, idk i thought so lol

mint lintel
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You can try recording a run and we can give more directed advice. You can try t2. It's a trade-off between a more demanding prep vs a cleaner boss fight. I think it's fine to do it for some kc until you're ready to rip off the bandaid and do t1 properly.

idle lodge
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I'd highly recommend not first learning t2, then unlearning it, and then learning t1

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it's a classic debate thats come up hundreds of times but I really dont get why people recommend t2

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maybe they just like being the only one with a bowfa

spare tinsel
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Alright alright guys, which program should i use for recording?

idle lodge
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obs is nice

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but if this is among your first runs probably the standard advice is going to help a lot

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focus on positioning > overheads > food and prayer > attacking > offensive prayers

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keep your health in the top 20 always. Eat on max minus 21

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try to claim the centre of the room whenever possible, so that hunllef is standing between you and the wall

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dont meme about with redemption or tickeats or multiple eats

spare tinsel
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Thanks!

True true, but is there like a best rotation to get the ressources and enough everything?

idle lodge
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its random

spare tinsel
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Oh

idle lodge
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theres the mcclumpy prep, jawns vid and my own example vid

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all in #1052266500041478246

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normally t1 prep is supposed to take around 4-4:30 minutes

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but while learning you'll likely be slower

spare tinsel
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Lol it every takes me like when i got 30seconds left

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My english horrible sry

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Is*

soft belfry
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if t2 teaches you anything its to clean up the prep time lol

mint lintel
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Record a run, try to incorporate feedback, and if you're still lost by the next 10-25 attempts... ask again

idle lodge
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t2 prep and t1 prep are way different

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ime people don't clean up either

soft belfry
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if you can do a t2 prep i dont think you're ever going to struggle with t1 prep again

spare tinsel
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Aaaalright

idle lodge
soft belfry
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as in have 30s left

mint lintel
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finishing t1 prep with 30s left is struggling yeah

idle lodge
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I dont think that's a good milestone

spare tinsel
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Yea i struggle, and got unlucky.. i dont do the hasta melee thingy

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I have a weird rotation i think xd

idle lodge
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theres no rotations

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I think anything other than more practice is not going to matter at this stage

spare tinsel
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Sure, searching for mid boss

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Like dragon bear

idle lodge
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I would not force two specific weapons

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thats a good way to lose a lot of time

mint lintel
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if this is all from 1 attempt, read up on the resources bruh mentioned and send more

idle lodge
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also your melee dps should be higher than your ranged dps

mint lintel
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too early to feel defeated

spare tinsel
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Yea will do thanks, will write after more attempts 👍

mint lintel
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you can do it

spare tinsel
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🥲

hollow steeple
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Just finished cg when starting with lower stats. Personally I did t2 to build confidence by having more room for errors, swapping between T1 and t2 based on how tilted I was at hunlef kills. T1 is objectively better but sometimes you just wanna get some brain dead safe kills when you're bad/tilted

eager silo
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I do t1 and fish full inventory of food for safe kills

hollow steeple
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Following bruhs tips on what to focus on, also making sure to eat after taking any damage to your hp over 21 helped a lot

eager silo
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Safing is always good in cg 👍

hollow steeple
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There were definitely rare attempts at hunlef when around those stats that I didn't get hit off prayer/walk on floors but hunlef just wouldn't take any dmg and I ran out of food after like 6 mins

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But those are few and far between

fringe terrace
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As someone who did way too much t2, I second the comments that t2 is bad.
There's definitely a weird "unlearning" t2 in the transition to t1 that I experienced as well, but I don't know if I'd go all in on it being "never do t2, even if you're learning", I still think it was a significant stepping stone for me, so long as you don't stay there forever and are prepared to accept a few bumps in the transition to t1. (I'm not terribly confident this advice is generalizable and not just me being slow at learning content)
My biggest problem by far was dpsing during tornadoes; below 333hp when I have to juke a bit I miss a decent amount of attacks still (and I think that's quite okay) but I really think you should barely miss any attacks, even during tornadoes, >333hp. (Although again, that was my problem, and I'm not at all certain it is yours)

spare tinsel
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Thank you guys all for the answers .. idk my problem is maybe that the red doggo hits me through prayer 11 or something and he does more dps than me if u know what im sayin, i avoid tornados etc, even the gauntlet plugin helps me alot that calls out the prayers.

im from 90hp to lower 25 in no time, even with the correct prayers.. i think its just a skill issue and need to stick with the regular gauntlet and go for 10k kcs for the full crystal outfit.. idk

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im just depressed

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died now like 15 times

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..fr all i do is pray switching -> he continue hitting 11s and i eat.. eat and sometimes i can hit him when im full or almost full of hp

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idk

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and sadly i cant record it .. i got a small delay

honest nimbus
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if you feel like you get hit too much from just the boss, just make t2. I know people above said its 'bad' or even 'keeping you away from a bofa' but a kill is a kill. If t2 gets you the kill and works for you, great. Yes, the kills will take longer but do you care about max efficiency or just getting content done? At some point you'll do it with 1 eye closed and a lot of food left in the bag. At that point you can try to 'relearn' as they call it. Do what works for you, not for others (but try it at least)

spare tinsel
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maybe i think i will try that >.<

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damn i cant upload the video

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only 500mb

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someone have an idea how i can upload that? xd i recorded it with that xbox thingy on lapto

mint lintel
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try youtube or streamable

spare tinsel
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ty yeah i try with medal now, streamable costs money because its too big

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the video i eman

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mean

mint lintel
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I'll just say this in advance, you are probably not comfortable with moving while attacking yet. I'd guess you're losing a lot of ticks. It's not a mistake that results in immediate damage taken like missing a prayer, but it hurts your dps and is likely a significant reason why your fight is taking so long

spare tinsel
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The fight itself was like 5min

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And he was down 300/1000

idle lodge
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it can be comforting to blame the game or the stats. If you want to improve that's not a good attitude though

spare tinsel
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man i dont have any attitude wth kekw
Im not anywhere near skillful when it comes to pvm, i didnt said that i dont make mistakes - but im not that dumb when i pray against him and he hits through and that without the lava floor or tornados :p

i do alot of mistakes, just watch the video.. when im able to upload it haha

spare tinsel
soft belfry
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im like 2 mins in and you've done more attacks without offensive prayers on than with

hollow steeple
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Your also camping low hp instead of just healing

soft belfry
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also i dont think buying all the karam things is good

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they heal less

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and you dont need combo eats if like bruh said you eat at your hp-21

hollow steeple
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Wait there's combo eat foods? Definitely never made any of those lol

idle lodge
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Your positioning and overheads look reasonable, though try to run away from tornados rather than through them

honest nimbus
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pretty nice to have 2 for p3 where you combo eat once when tornadoes comes in. Makes it so you dont have to eat when running that phase and can just focus on dpsing after the initial extra delay. Totally not necessary but I liked it

idle lodge
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The next step is eating. If you're ever 21 or more hp below max, try eating a fish

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Im still watching but you're camping low hp often

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As others have said i would not make any of the combo food

hollow steeple
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Looks like a ton of hits with wrong style too when panicking

idle lodge
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Not as important as eating imo

soft belfry
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also smaller thing but you wanna stand on the tile markers for when tornados start

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they are like my go to tiles - if nothings happening try to get on one

spare tinsel
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oh hell so much to answer 😮

@ yew - my english is bad af, but offensive prayer means like overheads? or like eagle eye etc?
okay noted; not need upgraded food

@ iron - i dont know where to stand etc. alright so im afraid if i dont camp low hp i dont can get much dps : s

@ yoms - yes i panic a bit, and rather going for avoiding stuff and pray correctly but ur right, im missing alot of dps there

hollow steeple
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But yea like bruh said eating to full is op, just by doing that I went from failing a lot to getting way more consistent

spare tinsel
hollow steeple
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It's technically downgrade of food

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You lose 4 hp per food

honest nimbus
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whether you eat at 30 or at 70 you still lose dps

soft belfry
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yeh offensive prayers = eagle eye/ mystic might. If you attacked with the right weapon with offensive prayers fore that whole fight you prob wouldve got the kill

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like you arent doing too badly on avoiding damage

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just arent doing enough back

idle lodge
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Low health doesnt increase dps

spare tinsel
idle lodge
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All you're doing is creating more panic

spare tinsel
idle lodge
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In general I would make three changes

spare tinsel
spare tinsel
idle lodge
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  • dont make combo food
  • run away from tornados, not circles around them
  • eat up to high hp always
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With those three you should be fine

spare tinsel
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alrighty lets try this, thank you alot guys i will keep u guys informed :p

tiny tundra
torpid carbon
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t1 armour 24 food, thats what i do and i have lower stats. Try to maximise time spent doing things, if you arent hitting the boss then ear and vice versa, just make sure you are always doing something productive and avoid the avoidables.

spare tinsel
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Thanks guys

Wouldnt it be easier when i grind to slay 87 for some def/range stats?

soft belfry
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cleaning up your gameplay will be 10x more impactful than an extra max hit or couple defence levels

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with your current stats success rate can easily be over 90%

spare tinsel
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Alright alright ty 🙂

soft belfry
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i know there are some t2 haters around 👀 but if you are really struggling/ demotivated you can do a couple of t2 armour kills

spare tinsel
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Damn bro

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I got him down to 66hp in low detail and stretched mode

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But idk how to get rid of these bubbles what shows up for the xp

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They were really annoying

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And i feel its doable

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Xd

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someone knows how to get rid of this?

hollow steeple
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turn off cooking plugin?

spare tinsel
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it shows it with woodcutting etc aswell xd

hollow steeple
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pretty sure it shows up with each of the skilling ones

spare tinsel
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alright i check that out tyty

hollow steeple
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probably some info box thing to uncheck

spare tinsel
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did that now thanks man