I have a greater demon task and I want to get some more KC at zammy, specifically trying to learn door/altar. will this inventory suffice to get me some kc and keep me alive?
#Setup for Zammy GWD
azure ruin
azure rampart
do you need that magic pot to cast blood barrage?
azure ruin
yes lol
azure rampart
i would consider:
- 1 stam
- bin super def (brew does the same thing)
- maybe more than 1 magic pot
- bin whip (kc with bowfa)
- bin sara book and rethink your god protection (easiest option is sara/zammy ma2 cape)
- run to gwd equipping your sceptre and ghommal hilt for an extra slot
bp is good if you have it, but i'm guessing you don't
ma2 is not necessary either and you can totally just kc in the main zammy area without the need for sara protection
oh and when you get more comfortable start bringing divine range pots
azure ruin
okay dope. ill trade the 2nd stam for a 2nd mage pot, not take the bowfa (35-50charges isnt much to use to kc), take my sara ma2 cape and equip scep+ hilt for the 2nd trip. im gonna run this trip with my inventory i have because i have tried door altar at zammy before. im gonna hop in stream and display my noobness for all to critique in a few mins lol
pray melee at start then swap to mage?
azure rampart
you can pray melee on entry if you're worried you'll mess up the pattern but kril will not attack you if you execute it properly
should be praying range when you're in cycle
sounds like your bowfa isn't corrupted though, you should get on that sooner than later lol
azure ruin
yea its not. trust me, i used it a shit ton before i even had crystal legs XD way to excited to have it
alright im hopping into the room
annnnd i died lol
lost cloud
Rest in peace 
azure ruin
went back for round 2, seemed to actually smoothly for the 1st kc until i didnt kill the final minion quick enough lol so i had to leave before i finished kc 2
their dmg piles up quiiiiiiiick
azure rampart
it's pretty important to offtick the minions and properly flick them
they can and likely will shred you if you're not handling them properly
with ancients you can be a little lazier about it. usually the procedure i go with is to bp down the mager while flicking at least 2 of them, then i'll stack the range and melee minions together and barrage them. optionally you can freeze the clump and step away to only pray range
substitute bowfa for bp since you don't have that unlocked yet
azure ruin
yeah no BP yet, im 1/3 to 92 mage so I almost wonder if i should go burst nechs for 92 before i try to do more on this task. otherwise yea ill have to get comfortable clumping the mage or range witht he melee for a 2stack blood barrage and probably freeze that clump as well then flick the mage/ranger minions.
i'm still learning how to get comfortable with running true tile type methods it seems doable. ill also have to start taking tuna potatoes/mantas im almost out of brews so i need to perfect the running aspect lol
azure rampart
sounds really annoying to bring in mage pots to gwd where you're aiming for long trips
and yeah you'll eventually transition to hard food at gwd being your main source of healing anyway (the goal is take net 0 damage and bring in lots of prayer/ranging pots, with food being there for emergencies and bad rng mitigation). this is including blood spells and b2p tabs ofc, depending on the boss. arma/nex are exceptions where you tend to chug brew
spring kayak
Ye actually the pic in the drive is a lie, I take 0b
Just take pots and hard food
Fk Nex banking BS
3 hour trip to finish the whole task 
spring kayak
yeah no BP yet, im 1/3 to 92 mage so I almost wonder if i should go burst nechs ...
Do you have any items to alch for 92 Magic? e.g. rune arrows/bolts
or even gold bars
azure ruin
i do have a huge stack of rune arrows and gold bars, but wouldnt that be really slow exp/hr? youre saying that it would be a waste of bursting runes to go kill nechs off task?
spring kayak
It's a waste of money, yes. Alch those items while doing some skilling and you save time and money overall
It's slower in-real-time for your microefficient goal of 92 Magic but faster (both in-game and in-real-time) for macroefficient goals
azure ruin
if i could get 92 magic AND perfect a running method with my bowfa i would like to finish this task or atleast do a good amount of kills for the zam spear
168 more greater demons for this task
spring kayak
Ye perfect running method takes some practice but youll get the hang of it
I think I learned at Bandos with brews and then transferred it to Zammy
Ye like this
And eventually got pretty good at it
azure ruin
thats a squiggly ass running path 😮
spring kayak
I'd recommend learning at Bandos too if you can, since you don't have to waste your task
Oh sorry that's not my running path
Lime green tiles = running path on entry kill
Red tiles = running path on normal kills
Seafoam green = SW tile of General Graardor spawn location
Pink = where to click at start of entry kill
azure ruin
ahhhh the pink starting tile will be nice for me to include. i only have one line setup for bandos
lmao i dont have any issues with running a side mission or two 
i think i might side mission get 92 magic, go do mage arena for b2p and learn door altar at bandos and hopefully get a hilt while im at it
spring kayak
Yea the starting tile I marked after watching GeChallengeM's video
Oh yea B2P is super nice
In fact I bring ancients as a backup only but usually I just blowpipe spec + use B2P
Way faster
azure ruin
i could include bp as a side mission as well
spring kayak
Haha well 512 Zulrah is a lot and it's not needed. So up to you
azure ruin
i wanted bp so bad i did 100 full kc at zulrah with rcb broad bolts + single cast god spells
spring kayak
If you have bowfa you can try sending some kills in bowfa-only
I actually wasn't a fan of it compared to using hybrid but it's definitely serviceable
azure ruin
yeah the last 125kc have been bowfa. (bowfa + karils + chest helm +chest, with cure me spell) then at 230kc i got spoond pet and serp so the last 70kc has been serp +crystal chest+legs and thralls
i kinda really like it, but thats because i dont have trident yet
spring kayak
Yea without trident not much choice I guess
Altho if you have the herb level you can ditch the Serp too
Or just use Lunars as another option
Gives you more DPS and saves scales
azure ruin
b2p 🔳 bp 🔳 92 magic🔳 learning running methods 🔳 i got some work to do
spring kayak
no worries
you'll get the hang of the running for sure
azure ruin
maybe ditch serp and use cureme + venge?
azure ruin
how long would u say b2p grind takes
spring kayak
not too bad, maybe like 4 hours max?