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I was thinking of how much each SH does in the arc
Usopp is funny but yeah no
luffy and nami are easy top 2, then zoro and sanji, and then robin and chopper
And he saved Nami
"nami"
and then usopp is just blank for me
bro did not read the arc
yeah man i'm sure driving a bike is remotely comparable to anything anyone else did
drop this gimmick man
why sound stupid just for hating lmao
genuinely tho she did almost nothing
its like saying jinbe is the mvp of wano because he got them to onigashima
maybe you should read the arc instead
is it still on break?
we're in chapter week now
Jaya has the moment where he's compared to Noland
Skypiea has him kind of in the Satori fight? Then he gets beaten easily by Enel, and then he later shows up on the Ark Maxim with Sanji. Oh and the Klabauterman stuff is teased here + he introduces Skypieans to Rubber in exchange of dials
thats kind of it for him
Unfortunately skypiea pacing still sucks
nah its great in the manga
People always talk about anime
Manga Skypeia one of the best arcs in manga history
I have not even watched the anime
an immortal Oda would ideally pace all of OP like Skypiea but we're not living in the immortal Oda timeline
the pace would be bad if it had modern one piece writing but the interactions between the characters are so good by that point that chapters fly by even when barely nothing happens
was the bottom mural in the manga?
Luffy stuck in a snake for 4 chapters
yeah
its in Shandora's ruins
i haven't seen it either in the manga
sure but while that was happening zoro was peaking
I don’t think so
Dont care
its not really taking up any page count
there's a lot happening at the same time
lemme check I guess
Ppl will complain about post ts ppl running and then be saying pre ts is better with Luffy stuck in a snake for 4 chapters as well as luffy and zoro stuck in walls for 6 😭
Luffy being stuck in a snake thinking it's a cave was a bit silly, i agree
i guess it's just so Luffy wouldn't be able to intervene with Enel punishing the other straw hats, ganfall and wyper
Greg fucking sucks. He acts like an insufferable pendejo
i dislike people who think that they're better than everyone
Youss vs Greg showdown is historic
sounds like i am describing Greg doesn't it
better than Luffy vs Katakuri
(he's right)
Ok Wano hater
Luffy being trapped in the serpent is just Final War foreshadowing, its fine
but like I said, its not really a big deal if its not taking away any amount of pages on screen
Bro it was 4 chapters
also I dont have an issue with people running in post ts
That’s nothing 🤣
I dont think this is true, he is actually in there for like 10 chapters
so, Luffy is stuck inside of the red line?
or what's the foreshadowing
oh and Zoro at the same is also like
fucking around with the South Bird
yeah that is what I meant sabaku
that would be interesting
and I dont have an issue with that either. I dont have an issue with all the running around post ts. I think people really exaggerate the issue.
maybe it would connect to the catacombs which Imu had the giant straw hat held within
it can be a bit much weekly but eh
The ruins of Shandora were at the base of Giant Jack
indeed, I believe Imu's chamber lies deep within the redline
The ruins of the AK are in the Underworld
Sinking into the White Sea
i think so as well given the statues we see on the edge of the red line is present where Imu walks down the stairs
yeah I just passed this panel while skimming, I thought this is where that mural was depicted but I guess not lol
spoilers soon
Redon already posted a teaser on his twitter
Just like how Robin walked around and found out the lore of Skypeia/shandora
Franky walked around and found out about the lore of Elbaph
interesting one to focus on from Oda
Robin statue yoooo
it has the same nose
Ur right
feels like that's depicting an extinct race of some sort
Olmecs
no it reminded me of Imu lol
Rubber People
same nose and all
Does someone has chapter 1180 spoilers?
this also feels like it's depicting an ancient race which has been extinct for very long
maybe the folk who lived before the Birkans from the moon came
same
No and please dont ask here. Spoilers wont come out until about 26 hours from now.
gahh, I used to talk about this all the time
You should open it just in case
we'll open when enough hints are out
the people were not ready to hear this one out
personally i don't think it's Imu
i think it's how the people looked before the Birkans came from the moon
sort of like the first people on the blue planet
If there’s another lost civilization I could see it being a race of Nikas
a race of Nikas?
Yea
both
the closest to that would probably be Lunarians, given the white hair
The olmecs were the rubber people and believed to be an ancient civilization
The Devil is the Earth God, its the progenitor of many of its races
Lunarians, Ancient Giants, maybe the Third Eyes and more
he does have his forehead covered this chapter
Def has a 3rd eye
i definitely think that Imu has an awakened third eye
but maybe, all those eyes in the ringed cloud is what the 3rd eye's awakening looks like
that also works yeah
nobody has seen the 3rd eye's awakening, I think BM even says that its that rare
we haven't seen an awakened third eye user right?
Pudding is the only 3rd eye user that we have even seen lol
There’s foreshadowing and callbacks nearly every chapter
kinda crazy
DJ?
there's so many moments that are just so clearly a look into the future
its incredible
Davy Jones
was literally just on this while skimming through
youre looking at Davy Jones, Dragon, Zoro and Robin against Imu
no.
have they always had the polka dot flooring?
yeah they have
yes
first time paying mind to it, lol
soon
here
ooh true
okay so I did count just now, Luffy gets stuck in the snake for 16 chapters
16 strikes again
Previous ancient kingdom rulers
16 chapters is wild
but yeah, I dont think its a big deal because there's a lot going on at the same time. Its not the focus.
Youre not losing any amount of pages over it, Oda focuses on it for maybe 6 or 7 pages
What is this

My schizo theory is that OP is below Sabaody
King of the World against the King of the Majestic Oceans of the World is gonna go so hard in the Final War
The Eve tree houses multiple people with a bubble at the bottom
Robin's talking about the enemy that left Shandora in ruins
Yet we don’t see what the inside of the archipelago looks like at the bottom
I have always believed that its under the Reverse Mountain personally
X marks the treasure
It’s the last island in the first half of the GL
AND
It’s a island where u can’t travel by log pose
the start of their journey also happens to be where its supposed to end
so its in luffys chest
one piece is the friends we made along the way
Oda's Message: The Sun is the King of the Majestic Oceans, and the Sun is the Symbol of Freedom.
Oda must love Torkoal
the pokemon?
X
No fucking shit
This tells you that the OP is in Loguetown
calm down
no... that X is their current location...
Yes i know that lol but its funny you say that the X marks the spot when theres a more prominent X than the reverse mountain one
You aren't a mod
meek calm the fuck down
no, but you don't need to have such an attitude lol
I like Stephen's translation too
so the ancient kingdom is buried beneath Elbaph
*Sunken
thats intentional
same thing, but could that mean that Kid would be there?
that is pretty funny
Yea I brought that up
Enel wielding the Lightning Dragon
Imu wielding the Nidhoggr...
Enel's lightning dragon is the Eastern Dragon
Imu's will be the Western Dragon
Imu will probably do a similair attack to this with their glaive
"Abyssal dragon!!" or something
Foreshadowing
Celestial Dragon
peak
that would be a bit silly when it comes to an attack name
Its just an insane arc
like on its own its unreal ofc, but then everything about it means so much
i like Nami being the commentary for their fight
remember when nami deflected enel's lightning
Jim Carrey as Enel
where's this from?
people still downscale enel to this day based off that and it's funny as shit
I do remember that
Holiday Island
interesting
Old art went crazy
GOATsopp btw
by the way what's the leading theory on where the other eye went?
Laugh Tale
oda fell off
I never read the manga until about dressrossa
"nami did almost nothing this arc" I'm so sure
Laugh Tale or there was never a eye
that would make sense
remember denis lobby
insane thing to say about Skypiea lol, she's almost like the 2nd main character here
adood is a fascinating specimen
could this be the hellfire serpent, or is this just the sun god they preached to
Stand in for Kashigami
🐐🐐
There’s a theory that different civilizations had a different sun god
arsal do you think usopp will stay behind in elbaf
man apologized 
which is important, because she's also going to be that in the final war
nah
how do you interpret the op
Noland logbook, finds how to get to Skypeia, etc etc
Joy boy’s Poneglyph, finds out how to get to Laugh Tale, etc etc
I truly hope so
With ParallelPiece u can predict the whole manga
you mean like the different interpretations?
he's just admiring the scenery in Elbaf
Yea
he's standing in awe of it all
the number of calls I've seen for usopp's death is kinda insane, they make me look like an usopp fan
i don't know why people think a straw hat member is dying
that's a bit silly
Will be the biggest reveal in OP
thats loki
yeah it's not the kind of story oda wants to tell
at the same time, its difficult to truly nail it down. Oda never makes it so simple.
Bro was in chains
wasnt that revealed
no
Yea because sometimes you’ll think it’s paralleling a character when it’s actually about another character
Oda can't properly kill lesser characters and yet people think he'll kill one of the main crewmembers?
yupp
there's like a microscopic chance usopp goes down heroically in the final war as the bravest warrior but even that gets shot down by the need to reunite with kaya for an overall happy ending
yeah lol
every crewmember needs to be alive to witness Luffy achieve his goal at least
Usopp dies
Zoro cracks Robin
Chopper finds the one piece
1/3
bro really wants kaya to suffer banchinas fate
Zoro cracks Robin?
That’s what people comment on TikTok whenever they’re “spoiling” the show 🤣🤣🤣
another way to say f***
oh...
i thought it meant Zoro kills Robin
going in line with the pirate hunter Zoro ideas
😭
who even got cracked here
Kinemon?
probably
robin cracked frankys balls
wasnt it brook
Ooooh Ben beckman…
Kinemon after the Shinokuni went off
idk
huh
makes sense
Ahh shinokuni
Yet another foreshadow
Hellflame Serpent
That’s another ParallelPiece that tricked me
I was connecting it with Loki
it's the actor who Kizaru is made after?
Yeah
ah
best gif ever
Every cover story is used as a miniature world to foreshadow massive events that occur in the future
Each one can be connected to a certain character
Gaimon buggy teamup
Naw buggy one piece foreshadowing
And that buggy is special because he’s a rare animal
i hope that Imu comments regarding Loki's unqiue eyes
and we get pudding 2.0
Imu probably has the awakened third eye, so yeah that's likely
If Imu has a third eye then I would just say he’s a three eye member
the final battle
Unless it comes from the DF
Whats olivia doing there
i like the idea of Imu being an amalgamation of all races sort of
thats Nami...
clearly Olivia
Oda's pen was on just another level here
LET THE SUN SHINE
I was looking for one panel but I got lost in reading it again, its so good
FMI art glazers are wrong, Skypiea is Oda's peak artistically
^
definitely
Bro it feels like he only did it for just this arc
FMI is crazy detailed, extremely impressive for sure
but I think Skypiea just has a different vibe to it
the paneling is incredible, the presentation of everything is perfect
this is what I meant
the greatest sequence in OP history really
who has predictions for next chap?
I predict god knights die
i predict dragon will be there idk y
Did I wake up in heaven? Why are we spamming Skypiea spreads
Art glazing
oh, i see
Also, I think Oda’s paneling and general presentation is pretty consistent all the way through til late game Wano where it starts to change a little bit and shift more towards efficiency
Imu will pluck one of Lokis eyes and put them in a jar
I have Whitebeard's entrance & Death in top 5 but yeah El Dorado is up there too
eh not quite, I think there's phases to it
He definitely stops doing the full double page spreads all the time after a certain point
I miss true double spreads
Oda's always been experimenting with the "clutter style of paneling"
We'll get one next chapter for Imu, if not Oda fell off
Another way Oda excelled in Skypeia is that the panels aren’t cluttered
But yeah I think there was even even a dry spread of clean double spreads for years after Dressrosa
Like in Elbaph sometimes you can’t make out what’s really going on
They were lacking in Egghead but Elbaph has quite a few of them
Like, this is still very strong output
Break next week fawkkkkk
she kinda looks like a fat bird/penguin here
I thought there was no break week?
It works here cause the actual panels themselves are able to breathe
No
Start to Water 7 is where he is very comfortable with how he is using panel space, its where he is at his best. Oda draws so comfortably, that I am convinced that he thought he would never slow down lol.
Enies Lobby to before Onigashima is where you can tell, there's a gradual increase of Oda prioritizing efficiency over artistry, but I think he does efficiency still very well
Onigashima to Egghead is a pretty rough patch, but has its highlights
Elbaf feels like a return to Pre Onigashima again.
Buggy, for some weird reason I can’t see your profile pic. It’s completely blank
Wano landscapes are great
In Elbaph there’s been glimpses of Preakness
The impact of the double page spread cannot be understated
I feel like he’s saving it for the final war
It shouldnt be abused but not having one in wano was ridiculous
this style of paneling is good, I have never had an issue with it
the real rough patches in Oda's paneling showed in the single pages
Marineford there was like 8 in one chapter
not in the double spreads
Oda's been letting the art breathe in Elbaph a lot more which is good considering its the land of giants after all
I mostly see a decrease in quality through the line work, but that is usually rectified through the volume scans so idk if it’s an Oda thing or just a bad scans things. Probably the latter lol
Elbaph art makes previous arc art look like slop
The one panel where Loki is firing the lightning feels like it was ripped out of Skypeia
the TCB scans have been horrendous lately. I think it's the clean up artists doing a poor job
bad scans exacerbate the issue a lot, but there's definitely a noticeable decline in Onigashima and Egghead from ALL the previous arcs
Elbaf is a return to form in comparison
Yeah it's always way worse than official but it's been noticeably even worse recently
The Wano art looks better than Elbaph ngl
Egghead and Onigashima aside, I don't think any other arc has been rough artwise
Arc wise. Prefer Elbaph. Art wise. Wano wins
the squirrel comforting luffy panel was a mess
Same, I've personally never had a problem with a common issue many fans of "too much happening in double spreads"
This aint slop
Marineford is entirely drawn in this style and its a masterpiece
I think Oda locked in when drawing Kaido specifically
Black Maria v Robin is so crazy because you could tell Oda was locking in like crazy with it
its my 2nd fav fight in Wano
Robin = slop
yeahh, and I mean this is essentially just 2 pages with BIGGER panels spread across 2. If anything, this is much better than regular two pages.
people think these double spreads are meant to invoke the same impact as a regular two page spread, but its not
its Oda utilizing the 2 page layout to his advantage, its him seeing the manga as a two page canvas that he can use as freely as he wants to
archaeoslop
this is all fun and creative paneling, and to compare it with those regular 2 page spreads is extremely silly
Precisely this, on average a mangaka can stretch this to 4 pages, Oda utilizes a spread to do it
Oda was in his deepest of baggies
yupp
@ashen perch dmed you
this is a pretty good panel from elbaph
this shit is so ugly
I fucking love how much this panel evokes Castle in the Sky for me
Overall I agree that Elbaf looks significantly better than Egghead
yeah
best ghibli movie btw
I’m not mad at that
I saw people mad about the paneling some days ago but they used the most normal ass page ever as an example 
this is him maximizing the space that exists on a 2 page canvas, utilizing it so well
Im generally not a fan of panels bleeding into each other
you just have to see things the way Oda sees things
he sees all of his manga as a 2 page canvas to be utilized freely
Why is Shirahoshi in Elbaf again
fed...
Paneling is fine you are just stupid

This is all great
Bad bait
Not even I would say that
And I'm the goat at baiting
there are people who get mad at stuff like this
I mean this is not really relevant to the plot + we dont care about a stansen refresher
but using the space so freely is really cool
this is true
This can take like 6 pages in a standard manga
ngl. these kinda scuffed drawings of people in the background are my jam.
I love how saul looks here
Katabubu week flashbacks
yeah I love that one too
Mars looks so majestic
Kaido's intro is the best in series, no one comes close
i was staring at this and trying to figure out why shirahoshi is there
I’ve come around to that Egghead spread. It’s actually really good
Some1 dreamt of being a leopard that mauls people
Mars is GOATED
Who’s the better bird
Everything from the narration before
Oda's really good at utilizing his space
literal Ho-Oh
I LOVE the colors
this one is nice too
Simply two different things
i love how Oda managed to fully capture the speed which Nusjuro was going at here
sidenote but I love how Oda has played with the sizes this arc
I cant wait for the 4th addition to this
when Imu brings out his devil form, and its even bigger than Nidhoggr
Ju-Peter truly looks like a crushed can here
yeahh
The skeletal horse is so cool
yeah, i love how the face melts into the other form
I'm expecting next chapter to be fully about Imu's grandeur
first time Loki will feel smaller than someone
Oh I guess this would the smallest one in comparison lol
Imu’s devil form might pick up the giant sword 😭
I can already predict that Imu will have regeneration
samee
That’s like- a given
Tho even the sword would still be bigger
Can i be honest?
I dont feel like Imu is that threatening
Eh. I doubt anyone will pick up the sword
Idk can u 😭
Why are u bald
Male pattern baldness
ohh
we need a navigator , seems like a pretty important role 🙂
kid will pick up the giant sword
At least the height of the throne stand
Even Harald was dwarfed next to it
I feel like manga would benefit so much more being read left to right
Who started this fuckass convention

Manga read left to right or manga but its all colored
You mean this page?
I’m lying
Thought it was taller
It's because JP is read that way lol
Yea
Bruh imagine if u have shit vision
Holy shit the Throne room is huge
Lmaooo
"ADDRESS OUR GLORIOUS LEADER"
"...you have a leader? The throne is empty. I cant see any1"
"Are you blind?"
Yeah around the size of Aurust Castle probably
Wow
Imu gotta have really jacked legs if he is walking those stairs constantly
Also, is it confirmed that Harald’s sword is supreme grade?
Jarul gave him a sort of a legendary blade no?
harold vs mihawk who wins
Turns out normal form is luffy sized
btw why are there that many swords in the throne room? I figured it would have to be 20
Ill trust patches before i trust this scaling
Even if Harald joined Rocks & Harald ate the fruit. I doubt Rocks & Harald would’ve been able to beat Imu honestly
....the elden ring character?
Honestly ragnir is more useful for beating Imu than nidhoggr
I agree
ig nidhoggr would be for turning mary geoise into a crater
Hes in all of them
Perhaps Loki’s hybrid form would be better
I feel like it’s easier to fight as a dragon in hybrid form rather than full on zoan.
Thats basically for all zoans
We got a glimpse of it
@ashen perch you got the video of Oda drawing Rocks on the cover
changing the pants to black
facts .. Kaido got fucked up the most in his big full zoan form
I don't but to be clear, that wasn't him actually coloring his pants like that
He was layering
he was trying...
He was combining the colors
Mpreg loki
Volume 114’s cover is the Rocks Pirates!🏴☠️🔥
︀︀The boss, Rocks, is right up front, and in the very center are the three who’ll eventually become Emperors. It’s such a perfect composition. It looks insanely cool!🤩
︀︀
︀︀#ONEPIECE
︀︀#ONEPIECE114
Yeah I know, you can see it yourself
He's combining red with black for his pants, till settling for just black
This is pretty clearly an establishing shot
People spread that screenshot of him with red pants
Oda always does them specifically to establish the scale
You just keep that in mind later
Without actually looking at what Oda's doing or understanding how layering works
I do feel like people are definitely overestimating Imu's size here
I don't think he's going to be Loki sized, or even fully giant sized
i think he'll be able to change his size at will either way
WB/BM/Kaido tier is my expectation for the hybrid
Is that kid's dad?
We both know he was gonna make them red smh
Yeah
Makes sense
Well it is red
Eustass
Also you can see Oda loves Big Mom by the fact he was gonna put her at the center with rocks at the start
Just not the same shade, I wish he hadn't gone with the black pants
U know
I wonder how things would change if imu revealed himself against rocks on GV instead
np
Everyone who went against them on God Valley would probably be dead
Roger, Garp, Xebec, Big Mom, Kaido and Whitebeard
the others would flee
Ye i cant imagine the 6 that stayed would survive unless its the "get sent flying and run away" bit again
God Valley would be known as the Devil Diverge instead
a bunch of rumours suggesting the devil was sighted there
When will the forbidden realm awaken
Someone remind me, was there confirmed to be any, more significant connection between Kid and John other than sharing the same fruit?
No
Thank you
they both got one tapped
William kidd 👀 john kidd
both had Captain in their name i guess
^
Did John have Kid's fruit?
Also true
Yes
I did
crazy how ugly "Captain" John is in the manga
compared to toei who made him look like a handsome bloke
He is an alcoholic
why would he look handsome
Shanks is also an alcoholic
to be honest, i think every pirate is an alcoholic
alcoholism is very prominent in IRL world too
of course, lol
A moment that nobody caught in the manga
?
I did catch that lol
i caught that
because its literally mentioned
its an elbaf cat with a lion zoan
i figured they were the same since both wear the same accessories
the crown is the exact same on both the lion and cat, so it's a fair connection to make
Waiting for isdog
Along with whatever Ratatoskr is
don't forget Biblo
Well Zoro literally says so at the end of the chapter
We all caught on
Yea that’s two
three
Oh I probably just forgot then
Iscat, Ragnir and Biblo
We don’t know if Ragnir is actually a DF tho
Gen z doesnt drink
seems like that's the most natural option
It was chained in sea prism right?
@ashen perch thoughts
I disagree that its the most One Piece part of post ts lol, every arc starts this way
people just have poor memories
Wano act 1 was quite literally, just the same
Even a place as desolate as punk hazard still started with island exploration
every arc starts with an adventure
Have u ever heard of a df? Has anyone ever told u to stop overanalyzing small shit like this
Like bro
Trust
Its not that deep
Sometimes
a fun, chill exploration part is inherent to every arc
then the arc ends
and people forget it existed
The war god nor Nika didn’t have DF…
Huh
poor memory is like the worst part of the fanbase atm
nobody even bothers to remember ANYTHING, they just say shit that they feel is true
I saw a post with 17k+ likes yesterday
Remember when water 7 was chill
that they missed when the SHs had unique fashion with an image of Water 7 outfits
and I am genuinely baffled by it
And then they hit us with the MERRY IS FUCKING DEAD
Clearly the unique outfit they meant is Robin
All black leather on a woman does something to people

she had a similair outfit earlier than water-7
They miss Franky in a speedo
the SHs continue to have like a billion unique outfits every single arc, how do people forget so easily
I do too my friends, I do too
first time we see Crocodile, is when i think Robin had her first leather outfit
which is the one which people mistake as the water-7 one in the live action
Tbh it’s only the arcs where they’re there under a day that there’s one outfit
just baffling
it is kind of the only explanation of these posts honestly
well, that or poor memories lol
people just miss how they felt when reading those arcs at that point in their life
Luffy's style: shorts and tank top but different colors
Nah i see what hes saying

this one
no you dont
The past few theres been themed uniforms
80% of op twitter are larpers
Egghead is literally the only example of this.
Instead of just the strawhats in their usual getup
Wano did it too
And now elbaf
for act 1 and 2 yeah
wano had the best fits in the entire series
They are unique yeah
i think it was Dressrosa but Wano is top 2 for sure for me
But its still a theme
they were culturally appropriate
but its a unique style for all of them
you cant put Zoro in Luffy's outfit, or Nami in Robin's, etc. They are all true to their styles.
Egghead is a bit weird for sure, but tbf they literally are in uniform
LMAOOOO
Mfers will say anything
they were put into them by a machine that only had 2 styles of outfits
This is all justification for something that you are admitting is the case
its just not lol
One arc out of 30 ain’t enough to make you wistfully miss something?
I think the idea is
Island theme vs "what did the SHs feel like wearing"
Egghead really is the only arc you could say that about
Every other one is just “what local clothing does the SHs feel like wearing”
they have a million outfit changes lol, there's only one specific outfit from egghead that was like that
And it’s only part of the arc
egghead wasnt even that bad if you dont count nami and robin and bonney
because even at the start of egghead they have different outfits, same with the end of egghead
By the end of Wano, most were back in their own outfits
yeah
Egghead fits were atrocious but thats besides the point
Very much so
i like Frankys egghead outfit
I like that Luffy looked like a fire fighter
Fits so bad oda gave franky PANTS
he looked like a wind up toy
But egghead being base on sci-fi is why Theres “uniforms”
It’s supposed to be like being on a Star Trek ship
For the ones that share outfits
Will say again that the Supreme King is Davy Jones
i think it's Joyboy
This did make it sound like they mean there was a supreme king
Joy boy wasn’t king 
doesn't have to be
Blackbeard was the first to mention haki
Then we go to Skypeia where god uses mantra
Joyboy has been built up as the pinnacle of haki
i don't think that Davy Jones will overshadow Joyboy like that
also, its funny, the series hasnt even ended yet but the fans talk about it like they have nothing to discuss lmao
it would be extremely weird if Oda just decides to ditch Joyboys legacy in exchange for Davy Jones
Davy Jones was god
no?
oh Robin and Zoro's too
He was king of the world
They did start being themed at wano tho , they never had themed outfits before
we don't know what he was king over, he might as well just have been king over his own nation
I have acoc now
???
I think this just means CoC
yeah, i don't buy it
i believe Imu more given they lived through it
for one part of the arc yeah, but still unique
You believe imu??
the only king of the world is Imu
i do
Bro believing the guy who hid 900 years of history and altering current history
Alr
we're definitely going to get Haki lore at some point
Ultimately its just that dudes preference
I know how Oda's mind works, he intends to explain everything
The whole GV was a lie and u believe Imu
i believe Imu far more given they've lived through what Xebec retells as only legend he has heard about
I dont mind the themed fits if its done well
No Blackbeard is the rightful king
It’s crazy you believe the villain that literally lies and makes slaves over some dude that wants revenge for th specific thing he just mentioned lol
Wano nailed it
😭😭😭
the dude is forgetting the million other fits though
I mean yea its not like a pre ts exclusive thing
They had desert outfits in alabasta
i think it's equally as crazy to believe someone who hasn't lived through it when the one who has lived through it is right there
that was a lie manefactured by Sengoku
But the one who has lived through it is a known liar and obfuscator of truths
So we’re kind of at 0 then
skypiea has a bit of a summer island theme too
You shouldn’t be believing him regardless
sure, i'll still believe Imu
We got a Imu truther here
Man is a celestial dragon
That’s asinine sorry , it just doesn’t make logical sense in my head
Especially Imu’s response to that
Just sounds like he wants to cover it up
that's fine, we just have different views on it
Yeah the problem is people think they have to be detractors to “properly” discuss art when they can just accept the thing is a fuckin banger with little to complain about
I think it’s objectively wrong way to see it but oh well
drugged by wg propaganda
“I miss when the SHs didnt wear uniforms” screams the same energy as “slow news day”
i think it could just as easily be Xebec misinterpreting the legend which has been passed down into something that it really wasn't, Davy Jones was a king for sure but he might not have been king of the world but a nation
yeah lol
Pretty much
They all are
If that was the case , imu would have responded by confidently asking him wtf he was talking about , instead he got angry
no, i just have a different way of seeing the story
is that wrong?
He hit a nerve
Possibly yes
i mean, in that case getting angry could also be because Xebec is lying
then i can say your way of seeing it is also wrong
Why would you get angry over lies? You’re letting them affect you
lies are pretty common to be mad over, especially if it's something that you know isn't true
No it’s just human interaction , why would you care about some loser who’s about to die saying some obviously wrong and stupid shit
Unless it wasn’t wrong and stupid
SHUT UP ROCKS, YOU BIG FAT LIAR
Imu realistically shouldn't care about what a "lesser being" says if it isnt true
You just would be like “lmao what? King of the what? Do you forget who I am? :)”
There is no reason for anger
its like a lion swatting at fleas
Imu had the clear advantage
if you say so, i'll continue seeing it my way and you can see it your way
Davy D Jones was king 👑
and BB is the rightful king
bro really watermarked a panel
Just sounds like people are forcing themselves into a certain agenda by not letting the story be the story , me saying all this isn’t me saying bb is the final villain don’t worry
i don't care about that, i am just genuinely saying what i believe
Just seems like there’s narrative relevance over Davy jones being former king of the world
On top of which it makes it more interesting if there was someone before imu
Imu reveal and people already don’t got shit to talk about
Because obviously there must have been SOMEthing before imu
Could never by my GOAT
He wasn’t always king of the world
He used to be one of 20 other kings
So the position was clearly obtained
the most interesting part is Joyboy also seemingly wanting to be king
given they apologized for not being able to make him one
Davy Jones to Joyboy & Imu centuries ago
Well there is also the term pirate king , and we know joyboy was the first pirate
So there’s gonna be relevancy tying these two points together
i don't think the concept of a pirate king existed back then
Pirate did
Morgan’s invented Pirate King
And you can’t really say that ? Given we don’t know anything about this
even Roger was surprised by the name
Yeah so logically they’d make term like late king to go with it
we can't say anything regarding this then, since we know nothing about it
Idk where you get off thinking that probably wasn’t the case
joyboy was js the first pirate not pirate king no?
yeah i don’t think pirate king existed back then
look, BB could kill Imu and they would still do this. This is just the fanbase now
pk title never existed until roger
i don't think so
I’m just saying the facts we do know , gold Roger saw the truth of the world and was the pirate king , joyboy was the first pirate , someone said they couldn’t make him king , HMMMMM
Me piecing threads together has more base than baseless claims like “pirate king probably didn’t exist back then”
yeah it’s shown Morgan’s came up with the term Pirate King and put it in the papers
Because imu is petulant, spiteful and petty with a god complex
The Haj/Loki shot is sooo good
Where is the proof to your claim? I showed mine
You have nothing to compare it to
The literal biblical god has KILLED people for less than what Imu got mad about
Beast mode
Hi vivi
man you don't have to get so over the fence about it
It’s not hard to imagine Imu getting rage baited by slander
i am speculating just as you are
I didn't even notice Loki at first 
thats exactly why you wouldnt care. If you have a god complex u wouldnt care
Nope csuse a god complex usually stems from insecurity
Yeah and I could see someone being an actual king in the past affecting his emotions if his ancestor brought it up as well , since imu wasn’t always king of the world but became one , all this can still be true regardless
Same, I watched it a few times before noticing lol
Yup both can be true
I don't think Imu has any insecurities lets be honest
He doesn’t?
Him lashing out at rock’s calling Davy king reeks of insecurity
no thats more of rocks being right than insecurity
can’t it be both lol
yooo this one goes hard
you seem to get so upset over me disagreeing
that’s tough 🔥
even though the both of us know jackshit about the Void Century pretty much
rocks is so far below Imu that imu should feel indifferent unless what he actually said is true
I hope anime making usopp prominent isn't because he going to die
I’m not don’t worry
why would he die?
i can't see why people think that a main crewmember will die before the story is over
If someone were to die it would be usopp plus he said I'll become a great warrior of the see even if I die
That’s what I’m saying
yh cause oda isnt a good writer w the crewmembers
so the problem solver is just them dying?
Saturn also called that bloodline special .. they don’t view any other Ds as special but just nuisances …
would make sense if he called them special cause they’re the rightful royal bloodline and not the 20 Kings
usopp dying to save another sh or stand against Imu is for him the perfect ending to braveness
love this guy "noose"
theres nothing more brave than sacrificing your life for others
he already stood against Imu though
is this BB vs Imu talk?
Brook and Usopp are currently dusted
Didn't he say more like because of his lineage
dont have to sacrifice your life if you win
Usopp dying is just a pipe dream at this point lol this is Oda
thats not the fulfillment of his dream
no, it's regarding Usopp dying and Davy Jones being the original king or not
ofc it likely wont happen but it should
i'd say that's pretty damn brave of him
yeah he said his lineage is special , i’m saying it could be cause they’re the royal bloodline lineage due to Davy Jones
btw is zeus not being dead proof that big mom is alive
I wonder if Davey was the original leader of the kingdom and Imu snuffed him
still not the fulfillment of his dream. Usopp being on a Yonkou crew is brave regardless but it isnt the fulfillment of his dream is it?
unless Oda tries to reveal the davy clan has some type of passed down special abilities lol (which I hope he doesn’t )
it's more accurate to say that oda lacks skill in writing long term characters. When most of their development has already been completed there's not thst much you can do. Not saying you can't write anything new for them, just saying it's difficult
surely you'd expect all of her homies to disappear right?
No devil fruits actually last after there user die
i'd say it's very close to being the fulfillment to it, he just needs to see himself as it
Promethiis is from mother caramel
nah we’ve seen DF abilities exist after the user dies
Ah okay
Usopp gotta die in some people’s eyes for it to be true
Smh
that makes more sense
lmao typo
Ba it was better before! Lmao
Why are y’all acting like rage at a lie involving a mortal enemy is so unusual
Tbh I asked the same thing before
it's so weird
Imu getting angry doesnt mean rocks was right
Is this true or not
the shs seemingly only get the arc they're introduced in as character development
what’s the best looking DF ? like if yall saw it in person not knowing it’s a DF , you’d still be like “ hmm that look good , i wanna try it “
even if it's true, it probably doesn't mean shit
I think it’s more evidence toward it than not
Yes it does toei hate sanji
why do people think that the openings have such a gravity for future events
There are some that I would deff try
Ope Ope looks like it could be tasty , Marco fruit as well
This not for future events
This about toei hating sanji
I feel lien any bright color ones for sure lol but idk about like the purple ones they are a weird purple lmao
Usopp wont realize it until something drastic happens is the whole point. Usopp was considered brave from enies lobby, even by Syrup Island, the same arc he was introduced he was already brave, but he wont realize that till something drastic happens
Toei kinda did spoil once lol
People are chasing that high
why is xebec Imu's mortal enemy
It’s not either way. Imu lashing out cause it’s true and Imu lashing out cause it’s not true both make as much sense as the other. That’s why it’s a compelling mystery
😂 yeah the purple ones look disgusting .. idk what luffy was thinking
I meant davy jones
if davy jones is Imu's mortal enemy it has to be for a good reason no?
Luffy dunbess that all i can chock it up too! Idk I don't like how the live action makes devil fruits look inside it's like it's rotten in the inside lmao
so you think him dying will make him realize that he is brave?
it makes the sanji stans on the bird app mad and I think that's funny
that's kinda backwards if you ask me
All soft and potato like
What’s your point?
how
i guess so, i just remember people going crazy over Vivi possibly having Kuma's fruit since the opening showed something
It’s just crazy to me that joyboy was the first pirate an all we know about Davy jones was that he was possible former king of the world
Oda played with expectations there , people thought joyboy would had been a king and Davy was the first pirate
he won't realize anything if he is dead
Unless he dies after he wins
that opening didnt show anything about that, people were just being stupid
what we've been told is davy was the king before Imu so why do you think Imu would get mad
its genuinely so intuitive
It did. The transition of Vivi dashing forward into Bonney dashing into Kumas paw bubble
I think davy became a pirate after joyboy I
r u bring fr?
Feel thats a given
elaborate on what you mean, with him realizing he is brave when he dies
that just sounds silly to me
Bro ppl who think ussop finna die in elbaf are stupid
idk how to explain in laymans terms
Who tf is fighting van augar
Strong chance of that too , given the long history there and especially if he was ursurped
And he ain’t even met up with yassop yet
but sacrificing yourself for another person is the epitome of bravery

