also-manga

[muted hedge]

Yamato wasn't even conceptualized at the time of Arabasta

[tranquil blade]

Smoker also looked better in Alabasta btw

[steel stirrup]

He could've just had them talk

Having Ace and Yamato clash is crazy work

[ashen perch]

He is different for sure but just saying, I think Oda was definitely trying to make him pretty conventionally attractive here too

[tranquil blade]

Now there are some characters who look better after the timeskip, like Kid

[final trench]

Oda realized “oh shit i just killed the pirate kings son, gotta fix this”

[muted hedge]

if anything it was more like a friendly spar session

but yeah i do think that Oda wanted to highlight the potential that Ace really had

[tranquil blade]

Yeah he's not ugly at all but idk I feel like his face gets softer or something, like it just changed

[final trench]

still cant believe ace beat a nigga like hanafuda who clashed with kaido

[ashen perch]

honestly I am scrolling through this appearance now and theres some panels that wouldnt look out of place even in MF lmao

[final trench]

No shame oda

[muted hedge]

Hanafuda clashed with Kaido?

[ashen perch]

like this one

[final trench]

If ace beat hanafuda they shouldve pulled up in wano

[final trench]

Yea

[tranquil blade]

Did his eye shape change?

[muted hedge]

wasn't Hanafuda just a buyer of Kaido wares

[ashen perch]

a bit

[final trench]

He clashed with kaido but then they both came to an agreement, and hanafuda became his DF supplier

[muted hedge]

since he was a fan of the ancient zoans

[steel stirrup]

He was the one who helped him get the majority of his Zoan fruits

[muted hedge]

i don't remember the part where they clashed

[ashen perch]

but then theres this where he looks clearly different

[steel stirrup]

Oh idk about that

[final trench]

His design cold asf too, we were robbed

[tranquil blade]

There it is

[urban lodge]

Ace beating up a man trying to go see his family and leaving him to die 💔

[tranquil blade]

That's my goat

[ashen perch]

this is what Toei usually drew him as

its not as prevalent in the manga

[steel stirrup]

Didn't Oda kinda imply that Hanafuda had kids and they were Ulti and P1?

Or is that someone else

[muted hedge]

yeah

Hanafuda was the father

[urban lodge]

He confirmed it

[tranquil blade]

Went on google and found this

[steel stirrup]

Just making sure I remember that right

[final trench]

Fr he got killed by miscellaneous ass pirates

[tranquil blade]

unfortunate

[final trench]

Bro got killed by don krieg

[ashen perch]

Goda foreshadowing

[soft tangle]

To Nika

[final trench]

I never noticed that skull on the bottom of his hat

[tranquil blade]

I guess his death probably was foreshadowed quite a while before Marineford

[ashen perch]

its funny that his introduction is him appearing dead in front of all the people lmao, we know Oda made him with the intent to kill

[muted hedge]

i miss Ace at times

[final trench]

Yea its a cover of luffy screaming while holding an ace

[ashen perch]

this is his big introduction

[tranquil blade]

I see the old Whitebeard jolly roger

[ashen perch]

haha

[muted hedge]

i always just thought he was asleep, lol

[ashen perch]

nah he ate a poisoned spider

[final trench]

That spider burned alive in his stomach

[muted hedge]

sure, but he still had his fist in the air

that's why i didn't believe that he was dead

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-heat-calor-caliente-elmo-gif-17235205

[ashen perch]

they thought his body stiffened up in that position

[muted hedge]

he really just wiped his face on that girl

[final trench]

No respect

[urban lodge]

Lmao

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/tough-crowd-comedian-fix-tie-rodney-dangerfield-gif-17837054

[steel stirrup]

One of the 🐐s

[final trench]

LLRodneyDangerfield

[tranquil blade]

I miss Ace but I get he was always meant to die

and honestly there's no room for him in the story anyways

[muted hedge]

i wanted to see what Ace could've become

[ashen perch]

I said MF but looking at it now, his face starts to change by Post Enies Lobby already

[tranquil blade]

I think Ace would upstage Luffy too much if he didnt die so it makes sense that he did

[muted hedge]

the worst part is that they removed the freckles

[ashen perch]

not the same guy

[muted hedge]

he'd probably take the Cross Guilds place as an emperor of the sea

[ashen perch]

yeea lol, thats the biggest difference

[craggy vapor]

Thatch was a CD working for the WG.

[urban lodge]

Removing the freckles was a crime

[leaden rivet]

Luffy having an actual rival couldn’t hurt

[ashen perch]

but freckles kinda depend on the panel

because we do see them sometimes

[final trench]

Thatch wanted the clear clear fruit, he had to be stopped

[urban lodge]

So it's just Oda dementia

[ashen perch]

yea

[tranquil blade]

The problem is that he's genuinely too strong if he was around he'd be the one ot beat Kaido

[muted hedge]

removing the freckles just feels like removing Rouge

[tranquil blade]

at best Luffy and Ace beat him

but you'd have to rewrite a lot of things for it to work

[ashen perch]

you can see em in the next chapter

[final trench]

True

[tranquil blade]

Well there's this guy named Blackbeard

[muted hedge]

maybe he'd be the pirate king and Luffy would have to beat him to get the accomplishment

[final trench]

Kidd and law are pose to be his rivals aswell

They just went through their sabaody

[ashen perch]

barely visible here

[leaden rivet]

Honestly doesn’t really seem to be much of a rival, at least in typical shonen sense

They don’t have very many interactions and Blackbeard is a lot older

[muted hedge]

such a great line

[tranquil blade]

Blackbeard is the only one who is consistently at or a step ahead of Luffy

[muted hedge]

'If I bowed down to power, what's the point of living?'

[leaden rivet]

Luffy is missing a male friend his age that he’s so close to that people think he’s gay

[steel stirrup]

They both fatemaxxing

[final trench]

Yes blackbeard doesnt really pull up on luffy 24/7 he just sees him when it’s convenient

[leaden rivet]

Blackbeard doesn’t check that mark

[tranquil blade]

Well I agree with the first thing but honestly the worst gen has both 12 year olds and guys in their 40's so idk if age matters as much in this context

[ashen perch]

wait you can see em in MF too, Oda just kinda forgets them I guess

[tranquil blade]

That's Law

lmao

[muted hedge]

most people have shifted to it being Loki now

[urban lodge]

Give Koby some time and he'll fill that role

[craggy vapor]

I don’t get it. Do we all not bow down to the laws of our nation?

[final trench]

Kidd and law (mostly law) see luffy from time to tkme

[ashen perch]

Oda has had CTE for a while, its just gotten worse now...

[steel stirrup]

I think BB knows that Luffy is gonna be an issue soon but for now he's focused

[urban lodge]

Law is older tho

[final trench]

Luffy is an asset

[tranquil blade]

How old is Law?

[urban lodge]

26

[final trench]

He needs luffy to kill imu

Vice versa

[tranquil blade]

Holy shit

I thought he was younger

[muted hedge]

i think it would be interesting to see how the ope ope works on the Imu powers

would he be able to cut them permanently?

[tranquil blade]

I thought he was like 23 not 26

[craggy vapor]

Ace is alive. Before Akainu donuted Ace, law cut a hole in Ace’s body using his room technique.

[steel stirrup]

Rocks asking Imu who they're more afraid of has given me an impression that they might end up teaming up to beat Imu

[sage temple]

Blackbeard doesn't know about Loki yet

[urban lodge]

Probably mixed him up with Kid, Kid is 23

[tranquil blade]

Law is an old ass man

[ashen perch]

scrolling through MF and he actually has freckles in atleast most panels, I guess we both forgot lol

I blame Toei

[muted hedge]

yeah

[ashen perch]

I dont remember him having freckles in so many panels, its been too long since I reread

[steel stirrup]

Im like 80% sure a few mfs in here would drop if this happens tho. But itd be good riddance.

[muted hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-tama-otama-tama-one-piece-otama-one-piece-gif-15568113162294697253

[tranquil blade]

They might team up to beat Imu

but then Blackbeard will try to kill Luffy immediately afterwards

[steel stirrup]

Yep

[urban lodge]

I survived Wano, nothing can make me drop

[steel stirrup]

Yea ight

[urban lodge]

But yeah that would be abysmal (it's definitely gonna happen)

[muted hedge]

the lack of freckles was the first thing i noticed when i watched the Ace and Yamato flashback on Wano, lol

[tranquil blade]

People talk about Wano like they went through every stage of Dante's inferno

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/imu-imu-speed-imu-ishowspeed-speed-imu-ishowspeed-imu-gif-5082088216306763781

[tranquil blade]

Guys it really wasn't THAT bad

[craggy vapor]

he kills him first, steals his fruit and finishes Imu off himself

[steel stirrup]

If you were reading weekly, yea pretty much

[ashen perch]

okay it is Toei

[tranquil blade]

I was reading weekly

[steel stirrup]

Me too

[muted hedge]

shame on them

[tawny panther]

he wouldn’t do that , he would wait til afterwards til luffy is completely drained (although i don’t think he wants to kill luffy nor does he want his DF)

[tranquil blade]

It was bad because of the fanbase and breaks not cause of the manga itself

[ashen perch]

Wit Piece will save us from this studio........

[tranquil blade]

Also it was too long I will admit

[steel stirrup]

2 years is wild

[tranquil blade]

but it was not the worst thing I've ever read

[steel stirrup]

Nah i wouldn't say that

[final trench]

“Zehaha thank you luffy, BLACK VORTEX”

[steel stirrup]

Some arcs can definitely test your endurance tho if youre not built for ts

[craggy vapor]

in any case, BB has 3 skullz which means he can absorb one more DF i think

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-known-game-of-thrones-it's-understood-everyone-knows-we-know-gif-9361879955269503159

[final trench]

Dressrosa almost broke me shlawg

[ashen perch]

my issues with Wano are more related to the pacing, I think Oda wastes too much time on some things and then simultaneously rushes through things in the arc unfortunately

[muted hedge]

i feel like having 3 devil fruits is a bit overkill

[urban lodge]

It does have the worst chapter in the series tho (1030)

[tawny panther]

oh yeah he’ll get a 3rd one for sure

[muted hedge]

i think he'll just awaken his 2 fruits which he already has

[final trench]

Wha happened on 1030

[tranquil blade]

The one piece fandom is just abysmal dogshit which is a big part of why weekly one piece is not super enjoyable regardless of the quality of the manga

[sage temple]

Blackbeard has 10 fingers so he'll have 10 DFs by EOS

[steel stirrup]

2 and a half years for a single DAYs worth of events in world is wild

[urban lodge]

Kin'emon fakeout, the start of the dumbass bomb plot

[final trench]

Feed the devil fruits to his rings

[tawny panther]

we saw him contemplating on taking Law DF or selling it & he said he wanted Boa DF

[final trench]

Oh LMAOOO

[craggy vapor]

the third one he will use via his third arm

[tawny panther]

so he knows he can have a 3rd

[final trench]

I only read the manga when i got to egghead

[urban lodge]

And Kid and Law awakenings but people get mad when I mention those as a negative

[steel stirrup]

Oda loves having a bomb somewhere

[leaden rivet]

I actually did think Koby would be that person back when I started one piece but then he was surprisingly irrelevant the rest of the story

[ashen perch]

This is an arc that would be better if Oda had written it down in advance and analysed it thoroughly for what he needed to draw lol, its clear that it went way longer than he could have even imagined

[tranquil blade]

Well yeah Oda bit off more than he could chew but then realized right at the end of the raid so he rushed the last part of the arc

[ashen perch]

yeah

[steel stirrup]

Yea most definitely

[final trench]

I meannnnnn it was kind of a bail out but i dont think its bad

They woulda been cruced

[steel stirrup]

I dont think he meant for it to be 2 years

Shit happens

[soft tangle]

He made yamato spawn in, he did it himself

[ashen perch]

wdym 2, it was 5 years

[final trench]

Thats the falcon dudes name

[tranquil blade]

How else were they supposed to win lol

[urban lodge]

They weren't

[ashen perch]

they werent

[tranquil blade]

It was like 3 years for just the raid to get finished

[tranquil blade]

Oh my god bruh

Well she cant just win

[steel stirrup]

Oh yea 5

My bad

[ashen perch]

yea, raid was like 3 years and Wano in total was 5

[steel stirrup]

Thats wild

[final trench]

Cmon now we cant have luffy beating kaido AND big mom

Too much upscale

[craggy vapor]

so what, bombs are downscaled thanks to the Alabasta bird guy

[final trench]

Or do we have zoro beat big mom

[soft tangle]

Make kidd law + strawhats team up

[steel stirrup]

If bro did ts and then lost any fight after that it would make no sense

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/hd-smirk-gif-7206957141966421326

[tranquil blade]

and let's not get started on those Usopp confronting Big Mom theories

[urban lodge]

I think he could have definitely benefited from more consistent appearances throughout the manga, but I think Oda has been doing a good job with him recently

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/babe-babe-one-piece-one-piece-mr-4-mr-4-one-piece-gif-6870527688111956544

Last thing big mom sees

[ashen perch]

We would have had nobody beating her in Onigashima ideally

[leaden rivet]

I was in denial of big mom losing to kid and law up until she started falling

Legit thought it could not happen

[craggy vapor]

I miss this chopper

[steel stirrup]

He loves a ticking clock

If it isnt a bomb its the birdcage or something big about to crash into something else and destroy it

Ironic he puts his characters on a clock

[final trench]

He’s coming back

[urban lodge]

Me too

[final trench]

He chased gaban down to know the weakness of the holy knights

He’s cooking

Conquerors pills on the way

[tranquil blade]

You cant have someone like Big Mom running around Onigashima though

[muted hedge]

i really liked how Oda clearly showed the gap between Luffy compared to Kid and Law

[tranquil blade]

She's too strong

She would've killed everyone

[ashen perch]

and that wasnt gonna happen either

[final trench]

Luffy wouldve been in cardiac arrest if he had to fight kaido n big mom in gear 5

[tranquil blade]

I don't see her just leaving

[ashen perch]

The idea was for her to simply go away, maybe after taking the Road Poneglyph or because she is no longer interested in helping Kaido

[final trench]

Ah

[craggy vapor]

she was bound to die cuz Oda loves killimg moms

[tranquil blade]

I feel like her grudge against Luffy is enough that she would've gone and tried to kill him

[ashen perch]

she isnt even dead

[final trench]

Idk tho, she did say “dont think this will kill me”

[leaden rivet]

Luffy in Wano could just reenter gear 5 whenever he wanted anyway

[distant vine]

You're not making me veto Law vs Big Mom, but I get the idea

[final trench]

She might pull up to elbaf

https://tenor.com/view/surtur-fire-demon-demon-fire-marvel-gif-14591213

MAMA MA MA

[ashen perch]

he slept for 7 days after his 2nd gear 5....

[tranquil blade]

What's another 6-7 more days

[leaden rivet]

Yes. After.

[ashen perch]

he was knocked out cold, he literally fell

[leaden rivet]

After.

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/zoro-one-piece-dor-sacrifice-sacrificio-gif-13746782885209265462

[leaden rivet]

You know

[ashen perch]

barely got in a few words and then got knocked out again anyways

[distant vine]

I think for themeing reasons Big Mom has to be beaten by the end of Wano @ashen perch . Partially thats why I backed off BM being alive nowadays

[leaden rivet]

I was always curious why for some reason that was the only time he didn’t turn old after gear 5

[urban lodge]

That fight just feels so contrived, she really was nerfed, there is no other explanation. Her using acoc perfectly fine recently is proof of that as if it wasn't obvious enough. Her walking away from her "defeated" opponents, like yeah yeah understimating your opponents is a typical villain thing, but goddddd it's so dumb. Kaido spared Luffy in act 1 because he wanted to recruit him, and in Onigashima he literally killed Luffy

[icy wolf]

do we know what families the gorosei are apart of? im looking at the cd wiki rn and it says we only know jupeter who is in shepherd family

[distant vine]

Why do you dislike the Awakenings

[icy wolf]

besides garling obviously

[craggy vapor]

she bathed in magma for a long time. When Kaido dropped into the magma pool, her corpse could still be seen. No way she’s alive

[tranquil blade]

Yeah, Venus is Ethanbaron family, Saturn is Jaygarcia family, I forgot Warcury's

[ashen perch]

I am mostly okay with it being the end of her tenure as an emperor for that reason, and because the current lineup of Emperors makes more sense too. Thats not in conflict with her returning in a different role. She can still be alive.

[ashen perch]

Topman

[tranquil blade]

Mars of the Marcus family

[urban lodge]

I just don't think Oda made her defeat convincing enough even with all the conveniences/assistance they had in that fight, while he definitely did succeed in that with Kaido. But maybe my issue is in expecting a side fight to get the same treatment

[leaden rivet]

I think part of our collective issue was maybe we underestimated kid and law too much

[tranquil blade]

See I was rooting for them the whole time

I knew

[leaden rivet]

But that is pretty valid since Law was getting paws out on him by Doffy like last month

[craggy vapor]

Oda didn’t know how to kill her off so he just dropped her in magma

[ashen perch]

wait actually I thought he said something but he really was fully knocked out cold

[tranquil blade]

I would lurk in the chat and see the BMWW people and I'd shake my head

[distant vine]

I understand the complaints

[urban lodge]

It felt too sudden, which to be fair is a thing that happens a lot in one piece, a lot of power ups happen in a similar way. It's not really something exclusive to this. I think I'm more ok with Kid because before that we never really saw him go all out

[distant vine]

Oda should have just let Law kill BM through raw power, you guys are right.

[leaden rivet]

I was just a bit disappointed that big mom never had like a big attack like Bajrang gun or Flaming Dragon

[craggy vapor]

But yeah, I found it super strange that Doffy victim Law could drill a hole far to the inside of the earth’s crust. It’s bullshit, respectfully.

[tranquil blade]

I think the only reason she didn't was because it would basically nuke the inside of the castle

[distant vine]

Stop

Luffy isnt the only character that can powerup between arcs

[ashen perch]

eh people just get stronger in the series

I think its not unreasonable

[distant vine]

Also that "Doffy victim" cut an island in half he's always been like that 😭

[leaden rivet]

Dude went from getting violated by Doffy to tanking Thunder baguas in a month

[ashen perch]

and he did almost kill Doflamingo lol

[leaden rivet]

[distant vine]

Luffy was also a Doflamingo victim btw

He was gonna lose without being carried

[leaden rivet]

I mean Luffy’s growth is equally bs

[distant vine]

But since he got the last punch its a 1v1

[ashen perch]

if it wasnt for the string regeneration, Doflamingo was dying

[leaden rivet]

But we just accept it

[distant vine]

👻

[craggy vapor]

no you stop. It was a bullshit powerup. Not even WB could destroy the earth’s crust that badly

[hearty shore]

doffy and kaido lost becausse of asspull g4 n g5

[leaden rivet]

Luffy is a yonko and became yonko level after a total of a year of being an active pirate. That is just as stupid but we don’t care cause he’s the mc.

[tranquil blade]

Current Doflamingo would be tanking thunder baguas too tbh

[leaden rivet]

Especially since all the other characters take decades

That’s just how it is

[urban lodge]

What's funny is I've seen a lot of people get mad at Koby's growth but the battleship bags is a better explanation than like 90% of power ups in one piece

[tranquil blade]

My excuse for Luffy is that a lot more has been thrown at him in a much shorter time than Roger ever had to face

[final trench]

He needs this growth more than anyone

[craggy vapor]

doffy had no opportunity to train. He would lose to GV Garling

[distant vine]

Willpower training in jail

[ashen perch]

Luffy just has more potential, I think all the worstgen really do

[tranquil blade]

Roger has like a handful of really tough fights that we know of, but he was not being pushed to his limits every 2 weeks

[final trench]

Doffy is in jail pheromone maxing

[formal wagon]

can you elaborate

[final trench]

He stinks

[craggy vapor]

Doffy is no namekian

[leaden rivet]

I mean rogers era had like 8 different yonko level characters and he was constantly fighting with Garp who I assume was pushing him to the edge

[ashen perch]

Doflamingo is probably going to get ACoC the next time we see him fight, wont be in Impel Down per se but he will get it when he is with Cross Guild

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-stink-bad-breath-stank-face-smelly-gif-16392254

[ashen perch]

everyone just gets stronger in the series, no one can be judged by their past strength

[final trench]

Perhaps

[leaden rivet]

Can’t wait for you to say this when Hajrudin is suddenly yonko level

[tranquil blade]

Well most of the guys didnt become yonko level until Roger was almost done being a pirate, people like Kaido and Big Mom were actually even stronger when Luffy faced them than when Roger was alive

[ashen perch]

I did say this already

Hajrudin cant be judged by his past strength, I have been saying that since we entered the arc lol

[muted hedge]

Hajrudins dream of becoming king of the giants is already a huge contributor for that he'll grow exponentially

[stone terrace]

His current strength is mid diffing a moose with a friend

[jade rain]

It's not just the MC, atleast Luffy was strong initially but koby became 0 to 100 in 2 years

[ashen perch]

yeah just keep doubting him

[urban lodge]

Poor Hajrudin

[tranquil blade]

and in general it seems like there's a lot more pirates post-Roger's death in general than before his death

[frigid gulch]

Moose level

[urban lodge]

He will prove himself

[tranquil blade]

The whole great pirate era and everything

[craggy vapor]

the wiki says Vice Admiral Doberman is alive. Wasn’t he killed by Saturn?

[ashen perch]

character strength depends on what your role in the story is, and his role in story is clearly big

[frigid gulch]

No

[tranquil blade]

No just severely injured

[ashen perch]

yeah they called in a medic iirc

[tranquil blade]

They did it immediately which is the only reason he lived

[ashen perch]

yea

[tranquil blade]

Those eye blasts were really strong in general, the only person who didnt seem to be slowed down by them was Luffy

and Luffy is Luffy of course

[long basin]

wasn't he just knocked out?

[jade rain]

I still don't know clearly what type of attack it is? Does it blow your head or just cause your head to bleed

[golden valley]

Don’t think its a particularly hot take that Conqueror users have top tier potential

[long basin]

to me it seems like a psycho punch

[ashen perch]

Doflamingo himself said that too lol

[craggy vapor]

i was under the impression that his head exploded

[frigid gulch]

Depends on how strong you are

[ashen perch]

Doflamingo mentioned that Luffy having CoC means that he has greater potential than Law

[frigid gulch]

Bonney and Sanji were fine for the most part

[long basin]

was just a low ranked marine. very fragile

[leaden rivet]

Conquerors gets more and more important every arc

[golden valley]

Oh yup

[frigid gulch]

The ultimate haki

[golden valley]

I remember that

[final trench]

Loki laughing it off

[tranquil blade]

I mean it was probably always gonna be super important, it is becoming a little much though

[frigid gulch]

I guess it’s only right that Oda saved it for last

[final trench]

But yea i think hajrudin will be the new king

[jade rain]

Yea but was it like some new haki shit? Like haki energy blast

[tranquil blade]

With how strong conquerors haki is it makes devil fruits feel like they only make a marginal difference

[frigid gulch]

Well depends on who you ask but I don’t believe so

[leaden rivet]

While I did think conquerors wouldn’t just be a fodder repellent forever, I didn’t expect it to become that necessary

[frigid gulch]

Just a yokai power

[craggy vapor]

Ussop will be the new King if Elbaf

[frigid gulch]

Like his paralysis

[long basin]

Loki will be king. and a good king

[stone terrace]

I had a bad feeling when luffy stopped using acoc in egghead

And here it is

[final trench]

No, usopp will break the giants outta domi reversi

[tranquil blade]

Still how I feel about Roger and Whitebeard's rivalry

[long basin]

luffy will liberi reversi Loki. and heal his heart.

[jade rain]

I hope so, don't want another new way of using haki for the nth time

[frigid gulch]

Ryuo kinda already does that

[urban lodge]

What if he was, but he wasn't using enough mass

[tranquil blade]

like their haki is similar in strength so naturally Whitebeard should be a fair bit stronger because of his fruit

[craggy vapor]

he likel forgot about it. Remember he was severely hit multiple times on his head in Wano

[formal wagon]

"haki" 😭

[leaden rivet]

Yep

[frigid gulch]

Haki equalizes things it seems

I’ve pretty much said it

[leaden rivet]

So if Roger just ate a slightly strong fruit he just wipes all his rivals now?

[long basin]

WB was able to block Xebec it seems. at first I thought he was thrown through the mountain but afterwards he looked just fine.

[leaden rivet]

Would if it were so easy

[stone terrace]

I thought roger would be a lot more skilled with his haki usage

But he kinda was just a spammer

Granted its not his prime but hes still 40 lol

[leaden rivet]

I don’t think we’ll see the true extents of haki sorcery until we see shanks truly fight

[tranquil blade]

Eh it probably just wouldn't make him that much stronger

[leaden rivet]

But like if we look at characters now, Luffy and Kaido would be A LOT weaker with no fruit

[frigid gulch]

He’s the only one noted to have a truly unique ability so far

[leaden rivet]

So Roger should theoretically be A LOT stronger with a strong one

[thick mango]

so with the news that shanks abandoned the holy knights does that re-confirm shamrock was the one who spoke to the gorosei? Wouldnt we expect the gorosei to be especially uncooperative towards shanks as a traitor?

[tranquil blade]

I mean that's kinda the natural conclusion you get to when you can get to the top without a devil fruit but you really cant get to the top without haki, like clearly haki is the more important of the two

[frigid gulch]

Kaido kinda spammed haki too tbh

[leaden rivet]

I don’t know you would think they would speak to shamrock with more familiarity if it was him

[urban lodge]

They do seem to look down on the knights

They were pretty mean to Garlic when he came to them in 1125

[final trench]

They knew he was immortal butt

[tranquil blade]

Well who knows, the gorosei already note Shanks doesnt have motivations of world domination back in pretimeskip, so I feel they're a little more open to him than other pirates

[final trench]

“Know your place” - marcus mars 🐐

[leaden rivet]

Garling came in extra disrespectful, according to sandman whoever spoke to the gorosei was putting themselves below them

[frigid gulch]

it was cause Garling barged in

[final trench]

Probably because the HKs have less experience

[urban lodge]

Hmm

[final trench]

Fr bro came in talking about “time to take new orders 🤓 P

MANNNN GETCHO

[stone terrace]

What are they afraid garling will walk in on them having an orgy

[tranquil blade]

and idk the gorosei say to whoever it is that they shouldnt really have any reason to involve themselves in politics, but isnt the gods knights inherently a bit of a political thing? Since they're essentially the judicial system of the celestial dragons

[thick mango]

i think garling was more about the impudence of it and then a bit of shock that they werent involved/consulted at all with saturns replacement. Did they even know for sure at that point satrun was dead?

[leaden rivet]

Walked in like he owned the place

[tranquil blade]

Probably not, Imu doesnt seem to communicate the best

[frigid gulch]

They didn’t

[final trench]

Its like when the teacher leaves and some lil mf is like “alright im in charge now”

Like please sitcho ass down

[thick mango]

in that light, garling's appearance in this way is a threat

[stone terrace]

Imu is probably pissed at all of them for egghead

[thick mango]

dont fail me like saturn or youre next

[leaden rivet]

It makes me wonder if Imu is actually going to be intelligent or is he just an arrogant man child

[stone terrace]

Garling is the favorite rn

[frigid gulch]

Imu likely planned to or already nuked Saturn and communicated with Garling telepathically

[stone terrace]

[wet condor]

Merry should've left Garling business emote before he got banned

[frigid gulch]

That you’re up

[final trench]

He did spy on rocks so you might be right

[leaden rivet]

I lost all interest in Garling when he joined the gorosei tbh

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/garling-garling-one-piece-figarland-garling-one-piece-god-valley-gif-6779252170843509990

[hearty shore]

he's just a man child and the entire world is his cradle

[leaden rivet]

And god valley just made it worse

[tranquil blade]

I got more interested in Garling when he joined the gorosei

[final trench]

Imu is definitely a child

[wet condor]

same

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-imu-imu-one-piece-butterflies-flowers-gif-3419652870965976720

[frigid gulch]

I’m actually interested in what he’ll do

As an Elder

[urban lodge]

I can't help but like him, I just love how evil he is

[tranquil blade]

but his GV appearance I dont really care for too much

[final trench]

Look at how small he is, he only need 1 popcorn

[urban lodge]

And I'm interested in his relationship to his sons

[final trench]

He probably still respects them

[tranquil blade]

He probably hates Shanks

[frigid gulch]

He’s also highlighted alone

[leaden rivet]

He will have the same spider transformation

[frigid gulch]

On the spread

[wet condor]

Main thing that he has going for him

Besides a sick design

[urban lodge]

I can see him still having some level of respect for Shanks

[frigid gulch]

Oda such a glazer

[tranquil blade]

I dont think he'll have the same transformation as Saturn

[urban lodge]

At least for his strength

[frigid gulch]

Three Figarlands on that spread

[hot cairn]

same

[final trench]

If garling gets a wolf like transformation i will temporarily forgive him

[tranquil blade]

That accursed bloodline...

[frigid gulch]

Davy family wiping those rats

Trust

[final trench]

The score will change soon

#FearTheDavy🦑

[thick mango]

there was a big spooky wolf in the giant children's manifest nightmares and theres also a wolf man fighting on the mural. With the moon theme around garling, it doesnt seem impossible

[hearty shore]

garling will look like raticate in his transformation

because he's father of a RAT

[frigid gulch]

Hopefully he doesn’t just get Saturn’s powers

[urban lodge]

I doubt it

[pine scaffold]

This scene hits different after GV

he aint that guy

[tranquil blade]

He's probably gonna be like Shamrock where his sword has the yokai

[frigid gulch]

But he replaced Saturn

[timber glacier]

I think thats more of wolf motif is more inline with loki

[pine scaffold]

Saturn passed away

[ashen perch]

Nusjuro is going to develop a rivalry with Garling btw

[frigid gulch]

Or does Saturn still clear

[tranquil blade]

Yeah but I feel like Imu doesnt just have 5 beasts to choose from

[ashen perch]

Nusjuro is the Mihawk to Garling's Shanks

(he is clearly superior if you dont get what that means)

[timber glacier]

He does have like 200 years on him

[pine scaffold]

Saturn clears

he's extremely powerful

[tranquil blade]

What it would mean is that Shanks is stronger than Mihawk

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-egghead-5-elders-the-five-elders-saturn-gif-1229420013146413987

[final trench]

“From whom?” Warcury was bouta transform that very minute

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-egghead-brook-brook-one-piece-skeleton-gif-4881843109262032522

[tranquil blade]

I hate to say it but there's like a 70% chance Garling is the strongest of the gorosei right at this moment

[frigid gulch]

What was this lol

[ashen perch]

Nusjuro>Garling
Mihawk>Shanks
Zoro>Sanji
thats how it goes

[urban lodge]

Holy shit

[frigid gulch]

Wrook though

[soft tangle]

Canon

[ashen perch]

there really isnt

[urban lodge]

Brook doing the Kin'emon technique

[pine scaffold]

not possible

[tranquil blade]

Okay Oda give us the official height of Garling and Venus next SBS

[ashen perch]

maybe in a vivre card idk, Oda doesnt reveal heights these days

[urban lodge]

If Garling is 1cm taller...

[timber glacier]

Its going to be retconed in the 3 if thats the case

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-egghead-labophase-cloud-nusjuro-gif-2941148278250601913

[ashen perch]

counting or not counting the hair

[urban lodge]

Uhhh

[ashen perch]

because that clearly gives Garling an edge

[urban lodge]

Good question

Bald guy vs guy with insane hair

[frigid gulch]

Shave his hair to equalize

[tranquil blade]

Does Mihawk's height count his hat

[frigid gulch]

Doubt it

[ashen perch]

yeah this is part of why I think theyre gonna develop a dynamic

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/saint-saturn-vs-luffy-saint-saturn-eye-attack-saint-saturn-saint-saturn-eye-diff-saint-saturn-eye-attack-vs-luffy-gif-11519266868743348638

Get no diffed

[frigid gulch]

He doesn’t have a mop on his head anyway

[tranquil blade]

Bro used an anime clip

[ashen perch]

(not a joke, I think Oda thinks this way, I have him figured out)

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/saturn-saturn-one-piece-jaygarcia-saturn-one-piece-egghead-gif-10625289818617164089

higher quality

[leaden rivet]

Yes

[ashen perch]

its gonna be a real Zoro/Sanji type deal

[tranquil blade]

No one has Oda figured out, not even Oda does

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-luffy-uses-gum-gum-dawn-cymbal-gomu-gomu-no-dawn-cymbal-luffy-vs-kizaru-and-saturn-luffy-uses-dawn-cymbal-on-kizaru-and-saturn-gif-2846743620846465541

[ashen perch]

well I do

[leaden rivet]

[pine scaffold]

He was caught off guard

doesnt count

[frigid gulch]

Oh please

[leaden rivet]

Oh nvm I thought you were doing something that you weren’t…..

lol

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/imu-imu-speed-imu-ishowspeed-speed-imu-ishowspeed-imu-gif-5082088216306763781

[ashen perch]

it does sound that way

I didnt even notice lmao

[pine scaffold]

tbh it didnt do a lot

[ashen perch]

uuhhh anyways

[frigid gulch]

Speedmu

[pine scaffold]

Saturn came right back

[tranquil blade]

Saturn was single handedly dragging down the gorosei name

[ashen perch]

as I was saying

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-saturn-went-reverse-uno-spin-flaturn-st-saturn-saint-jaygarcia-saturn-gif-11774770674580681241

[frigid gulch]

It pretty much just flattened them yea

[ashen perch]

Nusjuro/Garling, thats the latest variant of ZoSan we're going to get

[timber glacier]

Think them using immortality hacks the whole arc brought their name down

[ashen perch]

you guys arent ready

[ashen perch]

Oda took away Peter's blonde for this too

[pine scaffold]

this is cold

A yonko is no match for him.

[prisma idol]

Sanji will not fight garling

Why?

Because I said so

[tranquil blade]

Saturn literally could not do anything to Luffy

[ashen perch]

he will, its done, its happening

[proud pivot]

how is it cold

[ashen perch]

its winter

[proud pivot]

what did saturn do to luffy

[frigid gulch]

It’s confirmed that the contracts grant them strength

The question is how much

[prisma idol]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-fake-false-fact-checked-fact-gif-3692826964065029091

[frigid gulch]

[tranquil blade]

Saturn got hoed the entire time

[golden valley]

Luffy 10 mins after fighting saturn

[pine scaffold]

Bleeding everywhere

[tranquil blade]

Now post the next page

[ashen perch]

Knight v Knight
Warrior of Science v Warrior God of Science
Blonde v Blonde
Loves Women v Hates Women
Will have the classic Knight v Samurai dynamic with Nusjuro that Oda loves

Its over, its done, its confirmed

[proud pivot]

saturn got sent flying by a 1hp kuma

[golden valley]

Luffy is honestly not a good representation of the Yonko.

1.) Inexperienced Haki usage
2.) Is on a timer
3.) Needs Meat

[pine scaffold]

he was caught off guard

[soft tangle]

Gorosei are Zoro tier

[pine scaffold]

Kuma came out of nowhere

[tranquil blade]

The gorosei look really really strong when they're fighting Sanji but obv Sanji is not nearly as strong as Luffy

[ashen perch]

I think its just down to what Saturn himself said

[pine scaffold]

also Saturn wasnt even thinking abt Kuma in that moment, he was getting mad over Vegapunk

[ashen perch]

his powers are just too tricky

[golden valley]

Put Shanks against Saturn and it ends differently

[vestal mural]

thank youuuu

[runic dock]

Not as a result of anything Saturn did tho

[golden valley]

I don’t see why it matters

Regen is a win con

[pine scaffold]

Luffy cant do shit to Saturn

[runic dock]

Matters a lot , the statement was Saturn couldn’t do anything to luffy

[pine scaffold]

he said so himself

[runic dock]

Which is true

[pine scaffold]

Luffy is on a time limit and Saturn isnt

Saturn wins

simple as that

[soft tangle]

Imu limit

[runic dock]

Same with doffy

[stone terrace]

Would you rather look good in a loss

[runic dock]

Fights don’t go like that tho

[stone terrace]

Or win

[golden valley]

What you responded to isn’t what Saturn couldn’t do to Luffy

[stone terrace]

Cuz thats the difference lmao

[ashen perch]

Curious to see how Imu handles those powers though, since he wasnt having it with that excuse. I really dont like the idea of him being naturally weaker to it when he has so much experience fighting it for sure

[tranquil blade]

Looking good in a loss is better than looking bad in a win

[runic dock]

You responded with that as if it was a good retort against “Saturn couldn’t do anything to luffy” , it is not

[ashen perch]

Imu isnt doing an Enel face, Imu isnt gonna suddenly get weak in the knees because Luffy has Nika, all that sounds unlikely

[soft tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/zoro-one-piece-nothing-happened-gif-21452837

[runic dock]

I think the gorosei would rather just win and don’t care how they look

[tranquil blade]

Well he's gonna beat up Luffy probably for a bit

Whenever this flashback ends

[ashen perch]

Probably but he should win

[timber glacier]

Luffy gets domi reversi'ed

[golden valley]

And the response to that was a Yonko being unable to do damage to the Gorosei.

[runic dock]

“Luffy is a on a time limit and doflamingo isn’t , Luffy loses, simple as that”

[ashen perch]

I mean

That's true

[tranquil blade]

Wait for post-elbaf, this whole take on Luffy is gonna be very different

[runic dock]

Right so it’s not like you really made a good point either , it’s just a case of immovable wall meets unstoppable object

[ashen perch]

Why would you say that like its not, it was true if you're talking about Dressrosa

[tranquil blade]

and idk if that'll even be because Luffy gets way stronger in Elbaf

[runic dock]

Luffy won in the end , statistics don’t matter when you throw them into a live scenario

[timber glacier]

Luffy didnt do anything in elbaf yet but yap

[tranquil blade]

The arc is not over yet you absolute genius

[golden valley]

Luffy isn’t immovable or unstoppable, so not really and it is a good point because the whole thing is that a Yonko like Luffy couldn’t do anything to actually stop Saturn

[timber glacier]

Thanks

[ashen perch]

I mean Luffy didn't even win in the end here, closest thing to defeat for Saturn was a combo punch with Bonney

[pine scaffold]

even that didnt do anything, he regen'd instantly after

[stone terrace]

I guess kaido never beat luffy in onigashima then lol

[pine scaffold]

did 0

[ashen perch]

Yeah

[stone terrace]

Cuz luffy beat him
In the end

[runic dock]

Saturn likewise couldn’t do anything to stop luffy , despite luffy clearly with a bigger thing holding him back

[runic dock]

That’s absolutely right

Nobody is ever gonna talk in the news about how luffy lost to kaido

[pine scaffold]

all Saturn has to do is stab him with his tendril when hes out of gas

gg

[runic dock]

Why didn’t he

[timber glacier]

Plot

[golden valley]

And Luffy still couldn’t stop Saturn, needed help and would’ve lost w/o Emeth.

[pine scaffold]

Plot

He had to summon the other gorosei and do other stuff

[runic dock]

Sounds like Saturn deserved to get his immortality removed

[pine scaffold]

and then the giants arrived

[runic dock]

Dumbass bitch Saturn

[timber glacier]

Plus the gorosai didnt really haki up besides to aura farm

[tranquil blade]

but yeah the second Luffy gets the counter to regen he's gonna be stronger than Saturn

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/saturn-saturn-one-piece-jaygarcia-saturn-one-piece-egghead-gif-10625289818617164089

[tranquil blade]

Pretty much immediately

[timber glacier]

Well Saturn is dead so current luffy is stronger

[golden valley]

And when he gets to Old Rusted Emeth level, he’ll be above Warcury

[pine scaffold]

idk abt that

[tranquil blade]

It's not like Saturn hits way harder or is way faster than Luffy, he's both slower and weaker

[pine scaffold]

Saturn is extremely fast

Luffy said so himself

[tranquil blade]

and he's still slower than Luffy

[runic dock]

If they just stopped luffy first without getting distracted they’d have also gotten to the snail faster , ADD brain was Saturns downfall

[tranquil blade]

Maybe Emeth is yonko level idk what to tell you

What stops from him being that strong?

[golden valley]

Prime Emeth? He is

[runic dock]

Primeth

[urban lodge]

He unironically is

Luffy couldn't hurt Warcury and Wemeth broke off his tusk

[ashen perch]

Emeth was stronger than Luffy even in Egghead

[runic dock]

Emeth isn’t yonko level that was joyboys haki

[ashen perch]

Rust didn't necessarily take away his physical strength, just his technological weaponry

[pine scaffold]

Should we count the haki knot as a part of Emeth's arsenal

?

[runic dock]

Absolutely not

[golden valley]

Egghead Emeth loses to most top tiers because of his massively decreased capabilities. Only his strikes are up there

[ashen perch]

He still threw an absolutely insane punch that did more than anything Luffy could manage to do

[runic dock]

That was a present to be opened from joyboy

Not a toolset

[ashen perch]

With his full capabilities I'm sure he was up there with Yonko, which is naturally a Franky upscale

[golden valley]

Yes

[ashen perch]

People aren't ready for his upgrades

[golden valley]

Emeth is a franky upscale

Prime Zunesha will be a chopper upscale

[runic dock]

Idk what yall think emeth did that made him look that impressive

He was just slightly tanking stuff and not even that well

[tranquil blade]

He punched really really hard

[runic dock]

Anyone can make a gorosei move a little

They even did that to ghandi

[urban lodge]

But it's not that

[golden valley]

He punched Warcury

[tranquil blade]

He broke Warcury's tusk

[gloomy tree]

"prime Zunesha"

[urban lodge]

He broke Warcury's tusk when Luffy couldn't damage him at all

[golden valley]

Does zunesha not have a prime

[runic dock]

Recoverable , and since damage is negotiable it just amounted to setting warcry off course by a bit

Negetable

You get me

[golden valley]

Zunesha is explicitly stated to be rusted and essentially husk atp

[golden valley]

what

idk how any of that diminishes Emeth punch

[runic dock]

The punch basically just moved warcury, knocking off a tusk means nothing if they can just recover it

[golden valley]

Emeth got through his defense

[runic dock]

Gunko whole body was blasted off by Usopp of all people

[golden valley]

Injuring Warcury is the issue

[tranquil blade]

Again most of these complaints about Luffy if any are valid are gonna be resolved by the end of this arc, mark my words

[urban lodge]

It means he can deal more damage than Luffy

[runic dock]

He can recover

[tranquil blade]

This is the arc Luffy reaches Shanks's level

[golden valley]

Ok nice

But Warcury doesn’t need to recover

[runic dock]

Luffy is stupid and didn’t even use acoc

[golden valley]

If you cant hurt him

[golden valley]

Maybe or maybe he did

Luffy says he cant hurt him

[runic dock]

After a g3 style punch

Great

[urban lodge]

He probably did and didn't use enough "mass" lol

[golden valley]

No

After g5 strikes

[runic dock]

That’s probably it

[golden valley]

Luffy hit warcury more than once

[ashen perch]

Gaban didn't even say that any old ACoC can hurt these regen users

He was talking about a specific method

I am sure Luffy tried ACoC and just failed because he didn't know that specific method of using it

[golden valley]

Luffy didn’t get through his defense

Warcury never needed to regenerate. I dont think Gaban’s statement is about “more power”

[tranquil blade]

Again I think most of this is about technique and not strength, Warcury is not a great example in particular because he's exceptionally durable compared to the other gorosei. You cant prove Shanks or Blackbeard would be able to easily damage him at all

[ashen perch]

Oh yea true, because Luffy never even made a scratch on Warcury

Yea regardless, I'm sure he used ACoC, he wouldn't be complaining about his inability to hurt him if he hadn't

[dense haven]

topman > kaido

[bold sonnet]

Tbf Luffy did say he tried everything so this also implies acoc

[bold sonnet]

Top for a reason

[ashen perch]

Topman might have a trick behind it

So we gotta see that first

[tawny panther]

if Oda is trying to stay true to warcury yokai mythology , it might just be that durable regardless of what type of haki you use unless you hit it in a certain spot

[ashen perch]

If he has some damage absorption thing going on then it isn't necessarily durability

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/egghead-one-piece-warcury-topman-warcury-pig-gif-15649861968347540949

He smells Haki

[rose rune]

me when I take off my shoes after my 13,5 hour shifts

[glacial bear]

LMFAO

[ashen perch]

And the key is just hitting him hard enough because it has a limit

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-shocked-turtle-gif-11062250997175337277

[golden valley]

I mean it’d still be a emeth upscale cuz it just means Emeth outputs more force than Luffy can when hitting Warcury

[ashen perch]

Oh definitely

[tranquil blade]

Sure, but like you cant really apply that to anyone else necessarily. For all we know Emeth really does just punch that much harder than everyone else we've seen

[tawny panther]

would’ve been interesting to see a emeth & zuniesha interaction (i assume they know each other)

[frigid gulch]

So you’re saying Luffy’s a fraud

[tranquil blade]

Like for example you could not actually prove someone like Shanks or Blackbeard actually hits that hard, they might or might not but it's not proveable

[frigid gulch]

It really just did seem like strong punch but

[tranquil blade]

Technically they could hit that hard, but do they?

[tawny panther]

i would assume with the gura gura his punch could possibly hit even harder unless your just talking base strength

[ashen perch]

Well I feel like Bajrang Gun would've made a difference but he probably can't just do that when it could've destroyed an island like Onigashima

And BB has the Gura Gura yeah

Shanks maybe with enough mass to his attack, if he does something like Roger's big final Ace attack

[tranquil blade]

They probably all could, I'm just being kind of annoying about it on purpose to kinda say that there's really no way to say that Luffy is just nothing in comparison to these other emperors just because of how Egghead went

[golden valley]

The gorosei seem to have less tricky abilities than the HK’s, like in terms of op abilities, Killingham is like the best in the WG bar Imu.

Ju peter should have like a dimension, storing whatever he swallows, similar to Caribou.

Warcury damage absorption is probably a pretty good ability to give Warcury and maybe being able to reflect the attacks given to him.

Nusjuro is similar to Brook, so freezing abilities and powers related to the underworld (matches perfectly with Zoro too) would work.

I can’t think of much for Mars ngl. Garling is also hard to think of something without knowing what he gained.

[ashen perch]

Mars had his beams

[golden valley]

It was said to be fire iirc

So something similar to Sanji

But shooting beams of fire is lame

Its just another boro breath

[tranquil blade]

I thought it was just like a laser attack

[ashen perch]

Was it? Looked like a beam but still, thats his thing

It should be a laser

[hot cairn]

hey guys

[golden valley]

It looked like fire when it hit luffy too

[hot cairn]

what did you think of the chapter? havent been really active this past week

[ashen perch]

True but beamlike when it destroyed that place with York

[digital spear]

good chapter

[tranquil blade]

It was good

[ashen perch]

Hey jesus, good chapter

[hot cairn]

cant believe we're finally at the castle incident

flashback is actually going to end

[ashen perch]

Only took 17 chapters!

[hot cairn]

and 6 freaking months

[ashen perch]

Yupp

[digital spear]

will the last chapter of the year be the last flashback chapter

[ashen perch]

I doubt that

[tranquil blade]

I think I've seen one flashback in manga longer than this one

[ashen perch]

There's only one official chapter left

[golden valley]

They definitely seem like flames

[tranquil blade]

but this is definitely the longest one for one piece

[hot cairn]

maybe it ends in 1170

[hot cairn]

which manga?

[ashen perch]

Maybe unofficially yea, 2 makes sense

[tranquil blade]

Berserk I guess

[ashen perch]

True true, hope its more than just his mouth that shoots it atleast

[final trench]

Honestly i look at the HKs and gorosei in a whole new perspective now

Like without the imu tax are these niggas fried?

[hot cairn]

1 chapter for the castle incident, another for Loki's life after that and before getting captured

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/egghead-one-piece-monsters-giant-saturn-gif-4546932008139384339

[hot cairn]

seems about right

[pine scaffold]

Nobody is beating these 2 at the same time

[ashen perch]

Well just 2 for the castle and we move on

Well you're posting anime clips

[final trench]

Yea warcury is kinda like that

[tranquil blade]

Joyboy eating this for breakfast

[ashen perch]

There's one you're missing

[pine scaffold]

Why wouldnt Saturn and Warcury not be able to do that?

[cunning narwhal]

without imu powers, cp0 would wash the hk. maybe not shamrock but def the rest

[maiden smelt]

Saturn > warcury

[pine scaffold]

it seems reasonable

[ashen perch]

no I am saying you should post another anime only clip involving those 2

Which is also reasonable

[pine scaffold]

No

[tranquil blade]

Oh that one lol

[pine scaffold]

that wasnt canon

[ashen perch]

Yea

It was though

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/egghead-one-piece-monsters-giant-saturn-gif-15524621580985232528

[hot cairn]

elbaph part 2 doesnt exist

[pine scaffold]

okay well dorry and broggy > Luffy

they did better

[ashen perch]

Ayyyy

[tranquil blade]

Arsal already has you in his grasp

[hazy turret]

Battle of the bums

[ashen perch]

Sb your first good take in years

[tranquil blade]

It's over

[maiden smelt]

I don’t watch the anime but no way they where treating them like this 😭😭

[pine scaffold]

Why is Toei gassing Dorry and Broggy up more than Luffy

[tranquil blade]

Well they are tuff

[ashen perch]

Because they're legends

They conquered the new world on their own with their crew

[tranquil blade]

Not CoC users tho they just are really strong

[maiden smelt]

Domi reversi anime dorry and broggy > elders

[hot cairn]

no one gets more gas than Luffy

[tranquil blade]

They should be CoC users but they aren't

[hot cairn]

btw guys I saw the new episode, it was freaking awesome

[tranquil blade]

Unironically do not believe this

Narratively I suppose

[pine scaffold]

???

[ashen perch]

They are CoC users and you're not prepared sadly

[pine scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/saturn-saturn-one-piece-one-piece-jaygarcia-saturn-gorosei-gif-16714611117298484146

[tranquil blade]

They should be Arsal

[pine scaffold]

Nobody is getting this much gas lmao

[tranquil blade]

but they aren't

[ashen perch]

The conquerors of the New World, the most feared thing on the entire planet once

[cunning narwhal]

you saw how they animated zoro cutting water

[tranquil blade]

I've predicted Oda's hackery ahead of time

[ashen perch]

They are conquerors, and they're excellent at it too

They'll show it when they manhandle Zoro and Sanji

[tranquil blade]

They probably would've used it in Egghead if they did have it though

[dense haven]

sb do you like harald

[golden valley]

I mean yeah

[ashen perch]

Oda was advised to not use ACoC indicators after Star Gun by his editor

It doesn't count

[golden valley]

Im of the opinion the Gorosei got their immense Haki from Imu

[pine scaffold]

Mid

[tranquil blade]

???

[urban lodge]

Haki borrowing would be bad

[ashen perch]

You haven't heard?

[maiden smelt]

Could sommers beat doffy without imus help

[tranquil blade]

No I haven't

[ashen perch]

It was in this new interview

[somber flare]

Warcury is a one trick fraud

[final trench]

Zoro

[dense haven]

arsal possessed by sandman

[ashen perch]

What was his name uh, Anayama

[rose rune]

shame I don't have the vivi lending haki drawing anymore

[final trench]

Ehhhhhh perhaps

I think they have it because they were most likely kings

[ashen perch]

Thats the one, he is the one who is responsible for the lack of ACoC in the 2nd half of Egghead

[tranquil blade]

Feels like an oneyplays gaslighting bit, I need to see the proof to believe it

[golden valley]

I COULD see this

[ashen perch]

Show me one panel with ACoC in Egghead's 2nd half after Star Gun

You can't

There's your proof

[tranquil blade]

Show me the interview

[golden valley]

Would it be surprising if they were gifted Conquerors thho

[maiden smelt]

Luffy held back after kizaru killed vegapunk 💔💔

[ashen perch]

The interview is uh

Somewhere I'm sure

[hot cairn]

arsal is lying

[dense haven]

dog ate the interview

[ashen perch]

Yea that

[tranquil blade]

Put it on your soul right now

[ashen perch]

On Socrates' soul its real

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/say-wallahi-speed-say-wallah-put-that-on-allah-speed-speed-cry-gif-7807893550314648085

[hot cairn]

anyways, flashback actually ends in 2 chapter fellas

get ready to go back to the present

go back to PEAK

[olive sigil]

Ok and you’ve read the rules?

[cunning narwhal]

damn it'll be so weird to see luffy after all this time

[tranquil blade]

tbf even if this was true it means Luffy didnt use it either

[hot cairn]

wait wolf you havent asked me for my pick

[olive sigil]

Ok please confirm that you’ve read the rules. Welcome

[tranquil blade]

or it wasnt shown

[ashen perch]

Yeah just no indicators

The editor hated the black flashing lightning

[tranquil blade]

Oh let me guess

[ashen perch]

Contrast that with the new guy, who loves Black Flashing lightning

[tranquil blade]

This is the jjk editor too?

[ashen perch]

he brought it back

[olive sigil]

If someone can make one I’d appreciate it but I don’t know how

[ashen perch]

BM ACoC Ikkoku wouldn't have happened with the last 2 editors 🙂‍↕️

[tranquil blade]

Is that why BM didnt use ACoC in Wano

[ashen perch]

Yea

[olive sigil]

Welcome to the game Mailbox

[maiden smelt]

If BM used ACoC against kaido in their fight she would have killed him

[ashen perch]

Trvke

[maiden smelt]

Kaido was using ACoC btw

[tranquil blade]

I read the rules and I also want to participate, my pick will be uhh Sengoku

[thick mango]

wow 26k comments on the shanks v mihawk thread

[ashen perch]

Yeah lol

[dense haven]

anyway we haven't seen the gorosei full power yet

[tranquil blade]

That thread is hell on earth btw

[trim lily]

im surprised people are still using the threads in the manga channels

[ashen perch]

Nobody was going all out in Egghead because Oda was being silly

[tranquil blade]

Does anyone even moderate those

[olive sigil]

We have our first elimination

[prisma idol]

Its been over a year since Hunter games

[ashen perch]

We do yeah

[hot cairn]

Wolf wolf my pick is Harald

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-fnaf-crying-gif-24305969

[rose brook]

i bet my life savings on jeet and abdullah

[trim lily]

what if sengoku is a pivotal part of the castle incident

[olive sigil]

And the rules?

[ashen perch]

But yea, its a weird arc for these things

[prisma idol]

Colon

[tranquil blade]

I picked Sengoku because everyone is gonna pick like Harald

[ashen perch]

Oda wasn't really doing a lot of fighting there

[olive sigil]

That’s against the rules

[ashen perch]

Sanjuan hello

[dense haven]

what are the rules

[ashen perch]

I pick Shamrock

[cunning narwhal]

I've read the rules, my pick for next chapter is jarul

[olive sigil]

I won’t be considering people who don’t confirm they’ve read the rules

[hot cairn]

I read them and I accept them

[tranquil blade]

Inb4 Shamrock was at the castle incident

[olive sigil]

Perfect

[urban lodge]

I wanna join, I read the rules

[graceful grove]

[dense haven]

what if they're lying about reading the rules

[olive sigil]

Of course come in

[hot cairn]

which is the smart choice considering he's about to die so he wont be around for long

[urban lodge]

My pick is Imu

[graceful grove]

what game

[dense haven]

the game

[ashen perch]

Well that's the idea

[hot cairn]

I've read the rules, my pick for next chapter is harald

[ashen perch]

Those claw marks were Cerberus

[prisma idol]

Ive read the rules 😭

[dense haven]

proof?

[ashen perch]

I read them Sanjuan, my pick is Shamrock

[prisma idol]

I'll send you my memories by mail

[tranquil blade]

I'm actually beyond dyslexic and cooked myself

[hot cairn]

yes you did

[tranquil blade]

I thought it was whoever DOES appear in the chapter was how you get eliminated

[hot cairn]

this game will be really fun when we get to the cutaway chapters

[olive sigil]

It’s whoever doesn’t

[hot cairn]

lmaoo

[tranquil blade]

Yeah I read again...

[hot cairn]

wolf did you see my pick, I read the rules

[tranquil blade]

Tho it would be really really funny if Sengoku did appear tho

[prisma idol]

I was also given no confirmation...

[hot cairn]

@olive sigil

[olive sigil]

I did yeah

[craggy vapor]

U think Imu got kids?

[hot cairn]

okok

good

finally

I'm in the game

[thick mango]

nah imu dont got kids

[thick mango]

too human for imu

also producing an heir is a threat to imu

also imu might be a child and incapable of having kids

[graceful grove]

oh this game. i was in last round. Jarul

[bold sonnet]

I could easily cheat as a spoiler enjoyer

[rose brook]

nami swannnn

[olive sigil]

Ok little clarification on the rules. I forgot there’s one piece fans in here

[somber flare]

what is that

[olive sigil]

You need to read AND understand the rules

[somber flare]

I pick Harald

[olive sigil]

Is there a helper around?

[hot cairn]

you clearly didnt read the whole message

[graceful grove]

oda screwed me with cutaway from yamato cover story xd

[olive sigil]

Oh thi

Thi I need help

[hot cairn]

LOL

[olive sigil]

If you could please write down everyone who answers I need to go

[bold sonnet]

I did lol

[olive sigil]

I don’t want to forget anyone

[bold sonnet]

Fuck it
We ball

[olive sigil]

Thanks thi the helper for your help

[bold sonnet]

I will play fair and square

[graceful grove]

@olive sigil make a black list and add her on top of it

[rose rune]

what? I'm slow

[bold sonnet]

Her

[haughty saddle]

No. rules are for squares and punks, man!!!

[thick mango]

I'm telling you this is why you need a thread. Put all the game messages in there instead of sifting through also manga

[graceful grove]

i assume genders on discord

arsal is also a her

[bold sonnet]

[olive sigil]

Write down who plays please

[rose rune]

plays what?

[olive sigil]

If you can make one I’d appreciate it

[olive sigil]

In the game

[rose rune]

I don't know what you're talking about

[thick mango]

can you link me the rules again

[tranquil blade]

[thick mango]

nvm i found it

[hot cairn]

@thick mango

[thick mango]

https://discord.com/channels/164970986284777473/1447718179307786324

[hot cairn]

LETS GO

[rose rune]

oh fuck that. seems like a hassle

[bold sonnet]

[rose rune]

yeah, a thread seems better

[royal orchid]

5 threads and 5 more threads

[vital heart]

Hey guys

[graceful grove]

why are you here on your week off

go outside and play

https://tenor.com/view/modern-family-spray-no-manny-jay-gif-10695878

[hot cairn]

put your picks in this thread @ashen perch @graceful grove @tranquil blade @somber flare @prisma idol @urban lodge @cunning narwhal @formal wagon @brittle basin @haughty saddle @fallen meteor

[muted hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/spray-bottle-cat-spray-bottle-spray-bottle-meme-tiktok-gif-25591053

[hot cairn]

ok I think that's everyone who has chosen someone @olive sigil

[grand flower]

Exactly

[craggy vapor]

is it true that these explode if you take them off without key?

[brittle basin]

Ida

[haughty saddle]

Great minds, Buffalo Sauce

[trim lily]

i dont think these ones do, but some like in sabaody did

[trim lily]

actually maybe those do too