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Like you wouldnβt want to know Lokiβs chest size
Stawwp 
loki is probably 6th in the verse when it comes to that
third?
4TH
damn
lmao
Maybe 5th
people clicking phishing links or something
Heβs third
Each time I'm even more tempted to click it
1-Zoro
2-Sanjuan
3-Loki
π
it's an image to a scam site

jack is first, zoro third, i forget second
of a person redeeming llike 2.5k
Oh alr
Sanjuan
sure
Jack does have massive mitts
I think Estrid might be 5
good heavens
What about rolling Logan
I actually went and checked the website once with a temp email and it asks you to send 60 bucks to "verify you" before granting some 2500 dollars in your brand new account
thats a steal

Oh dang
How do people fall for that

it says guillible in the dicord also-manga chat
zoro no diffs
Yeah I was talking abt the women's league
Nobody holds a candle to Zoro
Well
I did just read the word in your message
You should have said gullible is written in #manga
It is written in there right now actually
Bro didnβt give him 2 seconds
πππ½
Clearly I missed something important that I got 6 pings lmao
@grand flower you know just read the theory about Rocks and I think Rocks dying while talking to Kuma is more likier cause how the whole Garp and Roger thing ended
But who knows what happens on the after math of god valley
Also @fast pagoda just saw your message while trying to scroll up to see the notification, all I am going to say regarding to VOAT Vivi actually does seem to already be hinted at having it during Arabasta while talking to Karoo so there is a high chance that she might have it.
Law might also have it based on his reactions to Luffy during Wano and I think I recall something about Law mentioning Luffyβs voice too so he might have too.
Blackbeard has a high chance of having because of Rocks too plus Dragon too considering the fact with Garp being able to hear the VOAT I think itβs pretty much passed on through the family which supports the idea that all members of D clan might all have it.
Youβre so popular
Sounds like it lol
hey @stone tulip huge news
Although that turned out to just Shuron pinging me a lot lol (not that I mind)
Did Vegapunk put the Den Den in Emeth when he half teleported into him or was it earlier
What is it ?
hi :)
Hello 
Most likely half teleported himself
Cause how else he got stuck
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Didn't he wipe his memory before that moment?
How would he know to hide the snail in there if he was memory wiped
Yeah I am doing alright just busy with work and all
hell yeah
Probably mentioned in the message plus he was on stealth mode when talking about it other Vegapunks too no ?
I think Gaban and Rayleigh will buy them time as their Haki recharges
Weird how he teleported in his introduction then never again
Yes but according to them they made the message to the world and then wiped their memories
The video was made at least a few hours before the SH even arrived, I'm just wondering if he hid it earlier.
If he did when he teleported in thats fine im just trying to plug this plot hole if possible
If at that moment his memory had already been wiped why would he still "know" that he needed to hide that certain transponder snail
I think I might need to reread that cause I admit that it might be vague but I do think he hid it during that time
I think Gaban and Rayleigh staying around might be the fact that they will help Roger and Garp get out of the island, i think Rocks will die when the island gets Lulusiaed
Like maybe Kuma tried to save him but Rocks refused I guess
Cause he sensed that his time had come up even before the incident happened
No
i've heard that well that arc ends in december. the anime adaptation i mean....
Its Pantsu Hazard arc
Also speaking of Rocks, do you all remember when Eris mentioned that she was married into the family and that automatically made her part of Davy clan ? I am starting to think the same thing might have happened to Cobra cause no way in hell Titi isnβt a Nefetari lmao.
Like look at that, they are all spitting image πππ
Even though Lili does seem to have darker hair but still lol
Yeah thatβs seems to be the case officially
seems.... so.... ... .... ...
Cobra being a direct descendant would be weird otherwise
He can still be a direct descendant
But then how does Titi look like that
Yeah so either it could be Ace and Blackbeard case where he is from another D family that we donβt know off or he might have just got married into it even if he might have not been a member originally
Probably an Eris type of scenario cause where else Blackbeard got the Marshall then tho
How so ?
I wonder if Marshall is actually a D family
Pink what other families do you think will be revealed to be Ds
You don't want the conversation
I think we should accept the logical conclusion
Going off the theory all Ds can learn VOAT I think its possible the Kozukis could be Ds
Though Kozukis being Ds is likely anyways
We're not doing this ππ«©
Only inbred character is Charlos
Nerona Charlos btw
False
Itβs Roswald Charlos
I don't care what Oda says in the SBS
Check the latest SBS bro
Nerona Charlos theory will never die
Also I called that weeks ago lol
6ft under
If we're being real, chances are majority of CDs are inbred
Idk how many are like Garling just having kids with random women & going to steal them
D families
Monkey
Davy
Gol
Portgas
Trafalgar Water
Jaguar
Cloud
Nefeltari
Rocks ?
Marshall ?
Kozuki ?
I'm not sure if Rocks and Marshall are actual D families
You forgot the go family
I assume Marshall is similar to Portgas
Vira family
Thatβs Erisβs maiden name
Always assumed they just breed with slaves occasionally to introduce new blood into their family. Then get rid of the slave afterwards.
And the buggy family
Theres probably some that are smart enough to do that but also probably some that aren't so much
some probably do just as Garling did too, in case they found anyone they think is fitting to be their children's mother on some island which isn't Marijoa
You know prior to the fb, i 100% thought the Figarland family were gonna be all "we must keep the bloodline pure"
same
Yeah I think so too and by extent Shirahoshi might be a D too
Oda flat out stated he hated incest so we can rule that out lmao
It could be Ace case where Xebec inherited βRocksβ from someone else and the same applies to βMarshallβ who Blackbeard most likely got that from Eris
I think itβs just Trafalgar cause apparently water is another hidden name unrelated to that, but yeah that seems all of them for now unless Oda adds more of them like Shirahoshi
Tbh I thought itβs going to be Ginny scenario which thankfully wasnβt at all
i've seen some people who still believe that Bonney's father was Shamrock, but i don't believe in it
Yeah unless Blackbeard was raised by someone else other than her then Eris is most likely a D clan
While I get it I personally donβt want that to be the case
i wouldn't vibe with it either
better to just let it be a no-name CD
Like in fact I am not sure if I can handle knowing who Bonneyβs sperm donor is
Best case scenario
I think it might be interesting if theres very few Figarlands, like possibly they have children a lot more selectively as a way to not dilute the "innate talent"
You mean they donβt get married a lot and not have many distant relatives? I can see that
Yeah something like they restrict themself when it comes to how many children they can have
Or who with etc
the more i think about it, the more i think that Shamrock won't stay bad
Like they don't want to spam out kids & have 99 idiots for 1 prodigy, rather like 10 kids or whatever & they're all prodigies etc
Shamrock and Shanks are twins after all, both are children of destiny in a way
i guess Oda could say that Shamrock is the child of destiny for the Celestial Dragons, the same way Shanks is for the pirates
as that would be the yin and yang
this could be the case, yeah
i think that the Sheperd family are the complete opposite, lol
just based from Sommers
Rosward too
yeah
i find it curious that we've not seen a descendant for the other gorosei yet
Marcus, Ethanbaron, Topman and Jaygarcia
wonder if they have descendants, or if they're the last of the line to show their old age or something
@rose rune
@rose rune
yeah, it's pretty common for us old people to just be old
I do like the idea of at least 1 of the Gorosei being from VC times (Topman) & i wouldn't hate the idea that he was the last surviving member of the Topman family & rather than having children, he chose to serve Imu for eternity
yeah, that would be very cool
it has to be either Topman or Ethanbaron imo
i would be surprised if it was Mars, lol
yeah, its pretty common for an egghead to end in december
definitely
I can see that
To be fair evil twin is pretty common troupe in multiple series although I can see him being sympathetic depending on his relationship with Shanks and especially Garling
i think so, specially because of his mother
Yeah I am genuinely curious about how this plays out like how Shanks and Shamrock feel about the whole thing especially with Shanks used to be on Mariejose once
yeah.. it'll be interesting
wonder if Shanks and Shamrock have any memory of their mother's death
i mean...
maybe too young to recollect said memories
but i still think they'd be formed
i sincerely hope oda doesnt do anti-childhood amnesia for shanks or shamrock
would prefer they get the intel from dragon
Okay maybe formed idk, but nothing they'd actually remember
Which probably plays into Garling grooming Shamrock to be a weapon
yeah..
i seriously wonder how Garling is as a father to Shamrock
probably more of a military commander
id be very shocked if Garling is actually a good dad to Shamrock
yeah, though it would be interesting to see
Garling seemed genuinely happy when he saw the twins at least
so, there's probably some form of twisted love
I imagine him being very distant, only ever "spending time" with Shamrock to train him
yeah probably
Probably the type to be like "you do not refer to me as Dad/Father, you call me Supreme Commander" too
i didnt get that vibe, he seemed pretty neutral about the situation
it also seemed like he wasnt gonna follow up with shanks mom until she approached him
well yeah, he didn't care about their mother at all
he essentialy just wanted her to fetch him children
Whats interesting is that Garling didn't even know about them
i hope garling regrets his decision to kill her every night...
He just returns there & boom 2 little Garlings
lol, im really curious if he gave any thought to the red-hair
"Twins, how adorable..."
i kinda really need to know how they met, whether he initially approached her or the other way around
It sounds almost passive aggressive
god valley ended here as far as im concerned 
Like its a hassle
i wouldn't be surprised if Garling caught her attention by just looking good
i mean Garling is pretty much a prince charming but evil
yeah, now when you mention it
yeah that makes sense
makes it a tragic meeting of fate for shanks mom 
Like he's going "yay... twins.... great π"
saying that like he's gonna be doing any real work raising them, this fucking guy man
it'll be so interesting to see the contrast in Shamrock's childhood compared to Shanks on Roger's ship
its gonna be so sad...
btw idk if anyone's noticed it but this entire thing is literally:
"plot twist, the guy had an evil secret twin all this time"
holyland flashback of shanks seeing how his blood family "lives" will also be very sad...
If Sham & Shanks interact in present day, this can be used as a divide between them
yeah
Sham had to go through gruelling training etc
Vs
Shanks had a chill time having parties with Roger & co etc
shamrock probably has some extra resentment towards shanks for coming back briefly only to leave him alone with garling again 
sadrock π
I bet its horrible for Sham too, i can see Shanks being allowed to leave because Garling is just like "whatever no scum that would protect the weak etc is a child of mine, do what you like" but because he put in the effort to groom Sham he'd probably never let him go
am i the only one who believes that Shamrock has his own fruit, as well as his Cerberus sword one
im not ready, so ill continue to cope that shanks and shamrock have some kind of pact and will team up in the end π
im leaning towards shamrock getting an imu blessing like the gorosei
all i'm basing it on is this, lol
why would he say that it's not worthy of dirtying his own hands, doesn't that imply that the sword is seperate to him?
like a seperate entity almost
that would be interesting
well, since its a cerberus sword, literally his dog, he's just saying he'll let his pet handle things
Well yeah Zoans have a will of their own & if Cerberus is one then...
yeah true
I think its almost meant to be Shamrock insulting Loki too
i just think it would be so cool to see someone use 2 fruits, by putting one in the weapon 
"You're not even worthy of me using my own hands to deal with you" type of deal
what kind of fruit do you see shamrock having? paramecia, logia or another zoan?
has to be a paramecia of some sort
given his sword is a zoan
hmmmmmmm
Part of me likes to think Garling & therefore Shamrock are too proud to eat DFs directly
blood parameica? someone in this server has been obsessed with a blood DF lol
Yeah no way Garling is good father with how he even treats Shanks mother
that would be interesting, but part of me thinks that Garling would eat a fruit after the beatdown Xebec gave him
it would be very cool, but idk if Oda would do it
Good morning
Most likely the case, like I imagine Garling to be pretty similar to Judge or even Kaido in terms of parenting which is awful
tbh, under different circumstances, i could see an argument for a person being a terrible partner but a good parent, but in garling's case, i think itll make the most sense for him to be incredibly selfish and cold
goodmorninggg jozamu 
Kaido at least respects Yamato's wish to be Oden and treats em accordingly, for all the horrid parenting
I genuinely think he's gonna be the worst there's been so far
Hey mimi what's up
Yeah wouldnβt be surprised cause it was hinted at to be the case with the reverie scene too, like a lot of people pointed out how βShanksβ sounded so off but now it makes sense that itβs Shamrock.
a complete opposite to Dragon in everyway
It's late o'clock for you ain't it
I think Garling just looks at Shamrock as a tool to be used
You mean Kuma
that too
its almost 3am, prime snacking time 
You mean Kyros
but i said Dragon due to my belief that Dragon will run Garling through the payvement one day
My goat
This is happening btw
Need that to happen
feels like it's almost guaranteed
im praying for a scene where garling, dragon, shamrock and shanks all converge and yap and fight, itll be the peak of one piece lowkey
Maybe but itβs just makes sense for Garling to be that horrible cause ever since he was introduced he is literally everything Shanks stood against so most likely there will be bad blood between the two
And then luffy can turn to shanks with a smug face and say "my dad can beat up your dad"
i don't think that Luffy would call Garling, Shanks father
Wish I could argue but tis true
I think Dragon low > mid diffs Garling & then the other Gorosei appear & talk shit, Dragon proceeds to fight them extreme diff but it takes too long & Imu gets involved which at that point Dragon gets got
dragon is shanks' spiritual (non-pirate) dad π π
and then Sabo and Luffy come in
Out of all 3 Kaido is probably the least horrible parent but he is still awful regardless even if he respected Yamatoβs wishes
Dragon: "He may be your father, kid... But he ain't your daddy"
Something like that yeah
i pray that we see Dragon's reactions to Shanks being alive sometime
I lowkey hope he see's a young Shanks bounty poster
gotta happen in dragon flashback fs
Bar so low it's making out with the ground but yeah I agree
i imagine that he must have realized who it was when looking at the first Shanks poster yeah
Like teen Shanks just a 10m bounty or some shit
it'll be Dragon shedding a tear
He is at least most likely topping Kaido in terms of bad parenting but I dread how he is going to top Judge on that, like the whole removing childrenβs emotions since birth in literal sense is awful
The first time Dragon was moved... Any direction other than East
That would make me cry to be honest.
if Garling doesn't get up and rushes Whitebeard, then it's most certainly Roger
He's gonna groom Shamrock using their mothers death as fuel knowing full well he killed her
Itβs either Dragon or Shanks
Or Shamrock
i am too invested in the Shanks vs Shamrock matchup, lol
Garling losing his composure like a certain god from RoR and seeing red after humiliation would spark interest in his character
i dont think Shanks had a bounty while he was part of Roger Pirates and I reallyyyy like the idea that Dragon and Shanks had a talk at Loguetown, so Dragon seeing a bounty poster for Shanks wouldnt be the first confirmation he has that Shanks lived imo
how old would he be?
Consider how Whitebeard said Shanks looks like that guy wouldnβt be surprised if itβs Shamrock somehow
It depends on when Whitebeard got that scar but age is irrelevant in one piece regeneration of strength
fair enough i suppose
though it would be funny if Garling rushes him next chapter, when he is walking away with Polo
Hoping it's shamrock or garling instead of roger purely because they need it for the hype
So emotional manipulation and deception, that would have been awful but wouldnβt be surprised if he did that
Especially Shamrock please let him turn out strong as hell with the Cerberus sword
i thought Roger's already been ruled out assuming Oda didnt make a mistake with WB panels in flashbacks so far
Honestly, i dont think Shamrock is relevant or interesting enough for it to be narratively compelling. And shanks is just too powerful probably for it to even be a technical/gritty figjt. I got Shamrock against one of Shanks rivals like Kidd/Buggy going out in an epic battle or maybe Beckmann/yasopp
Most likely I think
Thats how to get the best narrative juuce out of Shamrock imo, cuz it will be so emotional on the other persons end
i think that Shamrock has quite a lot of importance, just from being Shanks twin alone
though i can see where you're coming from
Mihawk 
Oh yah Mihawk too
i think Loki would want a get back on Gunko more
His Yoru is gonna be extra excited
Shanks birb-sword reveal when
Mihawk will probably slice the God Knights like swiss cheest, if i'm honest
except for a few
I wish
Nah Gunko slapped him around & killed some animals, Shamrock actually wounded him badly
For the sword reveal, I know he would dice the knights
The animals were his friendd
"killed some animals" THEY WERE HIS FRIENDS 
i think those animals held a very deep connection to him, as his only friends tho
And he's not gonna sit there and cry over them
He definitely has it out for Shamrock the most imo
if this wasnt just toei being creative and actually toei having secret intel... 
He specifically got taunted by him
And Roger is technically Shanks adopted father, and since Luffy and Ace are brothers along with Sabo who ended up being taken care off by Dragon later on then wouldnβt make Shanks their brother and Uta (who is Shanks daughter) their niece
?
Although based on Baratie itβs also implied that Luffy views Shanks as a father figure especially with their relationship directly being compared to Sanji and Zeff so idk.
i'd be all for Shanks having a Gryphon sword
yeah, Loki's ire is out for Shamrock
We're reaching jojo levels of family trees and I'm down for it
yeah, big picture, your first paragraph is 100% accurate imo
but luffy has his own POV with this stuff since he has the absolute bare minimum info on dragon
That is also happening but this is based on the idea of Garling not fighting Dragon cause really Shanks is the only other valid choice right now.
i suppose so yeah
As Jojo fan, this is hella accurate lmao
no idea who made this, could be ai
eitherway this is sick
shanks v shamrock, shanks v garling, dragon v garling, shanks & shamrock v garling, sha-twins & dragon v garling are all happening i think, shanks has a lot of fights in his future lmao
Garling as a centipede kinda goes hard
You all suck
Btw mimi did that guy ever post his "thousand" figures
NO
i dont think so
we got baited π
LMAO
thousand figures?
"yes i have 500 shanks figures"
lmfao
its always too good to be true....
is there even that many out in the market?
no 
I suppose thatβs true, although itβs pretty poetic how it was Shanks who stepped up to bring Luffyβs βfatherβ when Dragon wasnβt around or at least the closest one to that cause this is most likely Shanks way to pay back Dragon for saving him.
He said he had thousands of OP figures but I honestly believe he may have a hundred
Call it my hunch
that lack of follow up has me thinking bro has 2 max
the only One Piece figure that i currently own is the Masterlise Monkey D. Dragon
Besides sanji and luffy funkos I own an onigashima Zoro figure
So I technically have the monster trio
Meanwhile I donβt even own any figures at all, maybe when I have enough money but itβs matter of where I could place all of that lol
it's a beauty
Damn that's fire
Figures be expensive af
Yeah and I am way too broke for that for now lmao
For good quality ones at least
this Dragon one wasn't too bad i'd say, around 80$ for me
You think red hair twins teaming with dragon against garling is a possibility?
waitwaitawait, there was some truth to the lie
#off-topic message
Plus I also want to collect other figures (like the Sonic and transformers ones) but even those seems to be expensive, so I gotta save money if I want to start collecting in general π
id bet $100 on it frfr
certainly a perspective
Sonic figures are so fucking hard to come by istg
But how would that come about with shamrock
You have to order that stuff online at this point lmao
Don't show this to Sanjuan
Itβs 3:10am why are yall awake
everytime i see a Sonic figure i want, it's either over 400$ or sold out 
Bro has Law shrine
Even FemLaw is there
Itβs 11 am, I am at work
I just got home from work!
Also pay attention to your job
Fucking hell thatβs expensive
yeah, it's that one with Sonic and Shadow from F4F if you know
Currently on break plus not that much of work today lol
Cannot relate I wanted to choke multiple coworkers today
it looks so sick
Yeah he's a true merch connoisseur, even has a neat film red shanks one you can feast your eyes on. The bikini posters are killing me he really knows ball
Yeah I think I know what you mean
Shadow the GOAT
I feel sorry for you
Shadow fr the goat
Restaurant manager tings!
Fucking peak
i'm only waiting for Silver to get his time to shine π
Ah that sounds hetric
Probably either by 2029 or 2030
i hope
Cause of the current direction of the series is going right now
It all depends on the movie cause there is a chance that he will star in that one
truee
dragon reveals the truth about the mother to shanks - sometime before shanks visits holyland
during the holyland visit, shanks bonds with shamrock to the level where shamrock can trust what shanks tells him/will know if what shanks says is true or not - oda might do some twin-sense shenanigans (especially with what was teased in film red)
when we get to revs raiding the holyland in present time, dragon will be fighting garling and will be saved by shanks, and then shamrock swoops in to back up garling
at this pt, shanks reveals what he learned from dragon regarding what garling did to their mother
shamrock probably lowkey highkey hates garling because garling is a shit dad so the GV lore reveal is the final straw for him
cue, dragon & shanks & shamrock v final form garling 
i really hope that Shanks and Dragon has talked after God Valley
even if it was just by a transponder snail or something
Shanks just telling him "Thanks.!"
Would be interesting if that happened in final war
its my hopes and dreams
theres so much oda can do with what he's set up between shanks' family and luffy's family
I hope so too or at least Dragon did some investigation on Shanks when he visited Luffy and realizes that he is the same baby that he saved, like all of this is pure ironic
yeah, it's so poetic
Dragon saved Shanks, Shanks saves Dragon's son
then Shanks saves Dragon and Luffy saves Shanks 
All of these just make me want to see the reunion even more.
sadly its all at least 2 arcs away 
maybe Dragon realized that it was Shanks who was the baby, when he was on Roger's execution 
loguetown meeting feels like a must to me
You see I like that cause how it shows that sometimes good deeds do indeed get rewarded rather than punished and how not all of the stuff Dragon did was in vain
maybe some combination of Roger's final words to Shanks and whatever Dragon tells Shanks at loguetown gives Shanks enough info to work from to get to holyland to see what his blood family is all about
like imagine Shanks and Dragon meeting right after Buggy left
EXACTLY
The latter is most likely gonna happen again Blackbeard, like I have a feeling Oda is going to do a full circle with Luffy saving Shanks from him and recreating the bandit scene
yeah, 100%
That would make him showing up Loguetown for Luffy even more poetic
yeah
ive actually been thinking that BB and Shanks might not have a proper confrontation before final war
because i think BB would prefer to avoid Shanks, and Shanks has limited intel on BB
Shanks-Luffy reunion should happen before Shanks fights BB and it feels like Shanks fighting BB wouldnt happen until all current emperors converge on Laughtale, maybe
Shanks is the one doing the avoiding
Shanks has been hiding at elbaph
"Hunting" yet wont pull up to Hachinosu
Played his little "ahh shucks, i was sure he'd show up outside Wano"
Nothing to suggest that BB spends a signifcan amount of time at Hachinosu
Rathered hunted down Barto
i've not been interested in Funko before, but damn these look solid
Shanks doesn't want that smoke
Shanks cant carelessly pull up to another emperor's base without putting his own ppl in danger
hoodless dragon funko is actually reallyyyy good and i generally hate funkos
yeah, it looks very solid
If he was really serious about finding BB, he wouldn't have gone to Wano & been like "ah not here, oh well back to Elbaf guys"
this one looks cool, though i don't like the haki effects
cooked π
you say this like its easy to locate someone in the new world
For someone like Shanks it probably is
shanks' facial hair doesnt work for funko style imo
sure he's got a lot of haki or whatever the damn hell, but he can't stop the old egghead from endin' december πββοΈ
based on what?
spare me some haki...
He has an information network good enough to gather info on BB/Kid/presumably Barto too because he found him
this is base oden we're up against
spare me some base lucci. this is enma we're up against
Interesting, I like how you actually had this thought out at the ready as you should
he had historical info on kidd
there was no mention of his intel on BB, Shanks went to Wano assuming BB was gonna be a vulture after Kaido's defeat
Barto was in Shanks' territory so of course he would be able to track Barto within his own area
What do you say about everyone else finding blackbeard easily and pulling up to Hachinosu but shanks not finding him yet?
the figarland family is constantly on my mind π literally my favorite part of one piece now
They knew BB had left Hachinosu at minimum, thats implication of some sort of network
spare me some eggghead this is base december we're up against
Oh I see you're already discussing it
wdym everyone else finding BB easily?
theres two big reasons why Shanks shouldn't go to Hachinosu
- assuming BB is there, Shanks and crew going to where BB has home field advantage is just strategically a bad idea
- assuming BB isnt there when they arrive, as soon as BB hears that Shanks tried to start a fight at his base, BB has all the reason he needs to go after Shanks territories and its already been made clear that Shanks' ppl are weak and with all the chaos in the past couple years + current events, Shanks doesnt have the manpower to protect his ppl against BB's crew/goons
People also think Rockstar is a BB spy & thats why he can't find BB easily
I like the second point
The first one I was thinking too
Luffy saying this to Blackbeard mark my word
Garp was going guns blazing because he needed to save Koby and he was more than ready to sacrifice himself for it, as he did
this comes back to what i was saying earlier, have we been given any indication that BB spends a significant amount of time at Hachinosu?
information networks have their delays, who knows where Shanks and crew are/what theyre dealing with when they get the info that BB is at his base
the new world/one piece world is enormous, the time it can take for Shanks and crew to travel from where ever they are to get to Hachinosu before BB leaves his base is likely a very narrow window, which agains comes back to the pt where Shanks cant risk going to BB's base without 100% confirmation BB is actively there
I do think Shanks and Luffy reunion may happen first too either in early arc or at least around the same time as Blackbeard getting his own arc cause I do think there will be some alliances being formed against him
Not to mention uh... I don't think Shanks' ship can fly unless Gryphon really has an ability
gryphon OR ROGERS GIANT EGG CREATURE
I think he only went to Wano to make sure Blackbeard doesnβt do any funny business
Do you know Dak's Sake? He had a really good theory regarding that and connects it to Loki and Skypiea serpents
ive seen a video or two of his, cool dude, do you have the link to this one?
He also says Roger probably got the egg from the sky islands and it's a snake
Let me check
He's my favorite theory channel
Mhm, but iirc he says the Skypieans worshipped the snakes as false gods based on a real "god" serpent
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oooooh, ive kinda forgotten loki has serpent eyes lmao, im seeing the dots being connected
Yeah he's not fighting luffy before shanks
this just makes me more impatient for loki flashblack 
This is why an alliance between red hair and straw hats (and possibly even SWORD and Revs) might happen against Blackbeard cause Blackbeard would want to invade Wano and FMI and all of that would lead to catalysts of final war I feel like
Me too
Edym
He's already on my favs
This is the loki flashback
the day we see SHP and RHP alliance... my life will be complete π
Well we need to go back to it
Yeah Luffy vs Shanks is 100% happening first or at least a reunion to it, like thatβs one of most anticipated things since chapter 1
hijacked π
Seen people dead set on shanks and luffy having a team up to fight imu
I mean thatβs happening regardless in manga anyways especially in final war
When oda literally keeps saying Davy and joyboy
π
Its just funny af seeing the shoe on the other foot
And then he done funny business anyway
Called me a mad woman
Presumably not even that far away too
Considering how important Shanks connection to WG I can see why but I think itβs literally everyone against Imu right now with Luffy dealing with final blow
winner island is on RHPs banned island list 
Shanks is not more important than teach at this time
Let's be real for a second
Even you know that
π
This is true
Shanks is Luffy level of importance
Yeah Shanks miscalculated that lmao
Iβm still betting that shanks is dying to Bb
To a lower tier
i think Shanks is more important than Teach tbh
For someone who was told most of this from a secondary source loki is a incredible story teller then.
They are equally important, no one is less important than other and the story emphasizes that so many times
Shanks family reveal basically guaranteed him living to EOS
BB has always been fated to die as one of Luffy's main enemies

Him and Blackbeard for sure like they are both are tied together in the story
Shanks not using that brain of his, why would BB wait outside Wano & potentially have to fight all 3 when he can wait for 1 crew to show up at one of the following islands
i like Arsal's idea that Shanks is Joyboy's descendant and Luffy is Joyboy's inheritor
Shanks gave BB too much credit 
Hell yea
Reading blind ?
Mimi your day will come
Are you following the convo?
I trust in Goda, me and him share a vision
Clearly not
Cause oda clearly has teach in that vision

Oda loves Shanks, im really not worried atp
i simply dont care for blackbeard as a(n endgame) villain as much as imu
Oda loves Shanks so much he made two Shanks clones, peak
Shanks wins
I'm chillin
Ah yes "guy who has zero chemistry with luffy, has never met him and only cares about him because of his fruit."
Yea, in worst hairdo on all of the worldb
Yeah Shanks fumbled here
Shamrock?? worst hairdo??
Yes
Imu final villain people really just want faceless cow man to mu his way to final villain
π
that shanks and bb paralell that oda blatantly puts out during GV scares me

blackbeards only redeeming quality for being interesting narratively is his connection to davy jones
Yet people keep reading this story with their eyes closed
why does it scare you
Curious
shanks' fate is sealed
Blackbeard wonβt be the final villain but he is still important to the narrative which imo is completely different thing
tf are you talking about
Nah she takes it
sak spell it out for me
yeah this is fine
His ass is gotta go man
bb and him are gonna have an altercation and bb is not gonna be the loser
praline disrespect 
Iβve been saying this
Shanks is gonna die to bb
I will be smoking this pack like crazy when it hits
this doesnt mean shanks dies silly
And it will be glorious
the hopeful part for shanks is this whole figarland trope, that might be the savior
Shanks can take a loss and still live another day
og helmeppo solos her in bad hairstyles
Shanks is definitely losing but doubt he will be dying tho
yeah he probably wont die he has this whole figarland weight to carry
At least this one's creative
Buggy or luffy finds bro in his last moments
but oda needs to kill off characters man
I will share my victory with you sak
You believed in the agenda
Luffy will save Shanks for sure
Saving a corpse
Yeah like he isnβt more important to Shanks but at same time his isnβt less more than him if you get what I mean
G5 Shanks revival
i been believing the bb agenda he is the greatest pirate to walk this earth
I donβt think luffy can save him from the reaper π
zoro can lend a hand then
Sak investing in a real one since I invested in yours

What happened to you bro
You used to have shame
oda might have to kill off luffy in the final war with how luffy has had to be more and more injured every major fight
He saw the truth
the way bb plays his cards right all the time intrigues me
Davy D Teach
his return on Dragon investment has his feeling a little too comfortable smh
bruh i been a fan of bb since before unc rich was born and thats like 50 years ago
The whole figarland stuff
what made me convinced he wouldnβt die to Blackbeard especially how there is Dragon situation too
All I'm saying is she clears
You used to have a life a family loving friends now you have what bb and what a fraud as a goat
Shame Sak
goated hat carries her
praline over amande any day for me
Sekai sak
That's crazy
Remember
amande kinda creepy icl
Moody sword lady for me
Yall drink water?
praline is balanced and lovely and faithful
goda i need that garp-dragon interaction PLEASE
Me too bro me too
I'm saying 
If thereβs a person who doesnβt then that fucker isnβt alive anymore
Sooooo yes?
Who's askin
I drink only sodies
Me
Ok Russian
You a fish π
sak loses to water, crazy
I think the revs might also get involved in Blackbeard stuff right now along with Sword. Hachinosu might legitimately end up being God valley part two
Pretty much lmao
we always down for a battle royale
Lore drop sak is an ability user
I'm sorry what is a fish?
Fih
this was supposed to be a secret
next chapter will probably be the last god valley chapter
Tasty
badtake-badtake no mi...
bitch
FINALLY
Baka mitai bro
Oda told me
I DO NOT HAVE BAD TAKES
A battle royal that might start with with a Davy back fight between all 4 Yonko and then escalate to full out war when the revs and marines (especially sword) get involved
@tidal ice we miss you bro
what happened to rift
The return of the king
Oh for sure
When he stopped talking this whole server fell apart
last i heard from rift they said they were studying
oh rift said he busy irl
Like we see the island gets destroyed
@tidal ice ratshanks emote PLS
I'll do you one better
@tidal ice who am i without your kekw reactions come back bro
When was that a lifetime ago?

uh oh
This new gen combo attack art is so peak . ( Art by Raijin75 )
Iβm saying
many moons ago yes 
the lego king omg
Rift would react me then Iβd ask him for an OP take those were the days
thats roblox
did bro get a j*b
No it's lego sak you need your reading glasses
bb ruining all the vibes smh
Holy peak wait why's buggy there
βThanks for remembering me thoβ
our king is dead
Buggy ball solos your goat and hereβs why
Because with his buggy ball attack heβs gonna do some major damage
^^^^^^^
Mad Monk Urouge would eat that buggy ball for breakfast

guys, i dont think we have time for urouge or weevil...
i think their asses are getting sbs'ed
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
like i geniunely forgot urouge existed, apologies for the blasphemy...
always bet on urouge in elbaph theres still like 2 more years until elbaph ends
caught melo slacking, they went silent 
2 YEARS??
that last year better turn into shanks arc
definitely at least 1 imo
thats what i think i mean its gotta be a big arc since its been built up for so long
we have like 35 more chapters thats like 2 years right
ye, i can see one more year of elbaf
Even Google on agenda piece
how many void months are you trying to curse us with
Well damn
the flashback alone looks like its taking several months and counting...
ion know mafs
void year
oda physically wouldnt be able to do a void year
his system runs on one piece
fr, void months are probably pushing it already
i will gladly perpetrate these true βrumorsβ about my goat
Final war might happen this way
If he was forced to do it then it would run too rampant in his head and start spawning into our world
My hopes are Oda is in good health, and he sticks the landing with the final arc
everyone does
Iβm an AoT fandom veteran Iβve seen what happens when your ending is awkward
think a year is pretty much guaranteed at this point, 2 is really stretching it though...
mine too
i would accept one extra long chapter per month once we get to THE final arc
but man the people wanting more fights and longer fights...
Nah I think Weevil might be saved for Neo Mads and might get involved with Blackbeard while Urouge would be saved for Birka stuff or more specifically Namiβs origins
Or two depending on how long the arc will be
live action is going to catch up with the rate we are going. Assuming it doesnt get its own original ending at some point.
Imagine reading Tale of Two Cities and thereβs no fights and aura moments
people don't get that there's only so much pages one can draw and story to write
L literature
erm, i dont see Weevil partnering with BB at all, his whole thing is avenging WB so BB should always be his number 1 opp - assuming he doesnt get told the wrong info
wit will catch up
I remember what happened
Not saying him teaming up but rather getting into conflict with him
ooooh, letsgooo id love that
although i worry weevil would die to BB after his sad backstory that one editor teased
yeah everybody knows and it was fckin broadcasted that BB pirates killed WB
yeye but he's heavily influenced by OG stussy so there could be some twisted info happening if its in her favor
i don't think Weevil even a normal human... he's probably a clone Stussy made
Cause there is a good reason why Oda saved Weevil for last especially how Oda seemed to hype him in that interview, and the same applies to Urouge like the straw hats will have to meet him so it would make Blackbeard the last worst gen member the straw hats would face
Probably I am expecting something like one pace from them or a speedrun of the series somehow.
im pretty sure they said they would be doing like 4 chapters per episode
holy cinema
Huh?
Thatβs most likely the case especially how Vegapunk is involved
WIT piece update when π
4 sounds like too much
oh hadnt heard that, that's speed alright...
crazy how we got so little this year
Oh WIT piece, nvm
Youβd be surprised how much good pacing does for an anime
just like roger they were too early (to announce that it exists)
4 chapters per ep are good for early OP
Like Iβm rewatching AoT rn and itβs more fast paced than I remember lol
yeah every one piece event i thought we'd get something concrete but its basically been crickets
For wit ?
Yea
The story shouldnβt be too fast but shouldnβt be too slow either
Love when something is paced well and I appreciate it more now that my adhd is worse than ever
Itβs wit so not surprising how we ended up waiting for season 2 of AOT for 4 years
Aot was simply cinema too
truuuue, they should take all the time they need tbh
Felt like 6
I'm not immortal

3 chapters per episode is the "normal" pacing for other anime
I think the other extreme is the original Naruto anime being filler for its entire second half
Like a bunch of bullshit filler side quests before Shippuden
Yeah plus imo I think they announced a remake way too early like it should have been saved for when the story is nearing its end
Imu can hook you up
not with that attitude
Just uhh offer up your soul or whatever
but we're in final saga π
Yeah it did lol
I mean like in final arc or something
one piece will end before WIT piece catches up tho
WIT can always make the executive desicion to pause if manga progress slows down as we approach The End
I imagine the final arc will be called "dawn of the new world" and it's an epilogue
I mean pace is picking up in the anime rn right
They adapted 2 chapters I think today
Progress!!!!!
Innovation
first page of the epilogue will be Makino's bar and reflect chapter 1 but with some new lovely faces 
The straw hats' final on-panel party but with everyone else
you know what i think? why the Toei became seasonal? its probably because Wit's "THE ONE PIECE" will show in every season there are no Toei One Piece...
Sabo visits Ace's grave
ok stop rn buddy
I can totally see one more arc after final war to tie all lose ends and give us the send off to all of the characters especially straw hats.
Also while that name arc makes sense I think it would be more poetic if the arc is called βRomance Dawn of the worldβ or βRomance Dawn of the new Eraβ

Usopp dumps Kaya and his son and repeats the cycle
Luffy is gonna give Makinoβs child the straw hat
Yeah it's too early for me and too late for you for this shit
huh
exactlyexactly on a monday of all days
Wouldnβt be surprised if thatβs Luffyβs true dream, a whole party to entire world
final saga will be Romance Dusk
Sabo and Luffy reuniting with DanDan
LABOON REUNION π
the emotional damage of the manga and then the anime adaption... im cooked
Vivi becoming queen of Arabasta π
Robin becoming real β€οΈβπ©Ή
Labubu reunion
One of most anticipated reunions other than Vivi and straw hats (where Vivi is going to be a crewmate again) along with Shanks and Luffy reunion
as much as I want Oda to just remove monarchy... it probably won't happen because Japan is pretty loyal to monarchy
Kyros screentime pleek
absolute pleek
Koza taking care of Arabasta until Vivi comes back home
koza + chaka and my darling pell~
karoo and vivi reunion
yeah, he's definitely not against pushing the idea of good monarchy
Arabasta monarchy gets abolished... Koza becomes President of Arabasta and Vivi goes on to journey with the Strawhats
what i actually want
i still cant believe i paid full price for odyssey...
Itβs pretty much set up being the case with Momo, Shirahoshi, Hajrudin (along with Loki), and Viola being all new leaders and Vivi is going to untie them all
youre welcome oda
I don't recall if I got it full price but...
Fun game
Probably on sale tho 
it was too slow for me, i didnt get outta alabasta π
i saw it on sale for the Switch for like $10 or less within the following year 
I stopped in alabasta for over a year
I only recently picked it up and finished alabasta, everything else goes by much much faster
bro... no way they put the slowest part the beginning, what in the L game development
Yeah it's absurd
As much as it would be cool I doubt Vivi would do thatβ¦however I can see her pull a Harald instead and continue sailing with straw hats to further diplomatic relations while still being a Queen, like doesnβt have to be temporary but she can still sail whenever she wants cause the straw hats are visiting all the islands when their journey is over.
at least i got Ace in alabasta, he was cute
Even water 7 plus enies lobby being two different parts are both shorter or equal to alabasta
Like good future Vivi is shown to still be allowed to set sail while still possibly be the queen too
Even if itβs probably just visiting Luffy
i love the contrast 
Dragon nurtures the world, Garp just likes to scrap
btw the shirt that Dragon wears is sick
i saw that one plot twist for dressros and heard there was some g5 stuff happening in the game too
maybe ill pick it up again during holiday time off
in my dream she'd probably some emissary with the Strawhats for Arabasta just not hard tied to the monarchy and ruling it...
One has a trusted second and the other doesn't?
i want this shirt
more like one thrives in the peace and one seeks confrontations
G5 βοΈ I gotta see if that's true
I know which plot twist you're talking about, I saw the same one and it motivated me to continue it
Hit me right in the kokoro tbh
OH im sorry i thought you finished the game π
You're good, I'm more so curious about it
True, though I think Dragon is the only one in the family that threated to kill someone and actually mean it. It's always the quiet ones
Sure but I am just being more realistic about Vivi, however I do still think she is going to be βfinalβ straw hat and will be there on Laughtale with the crew anyways, itβs more of post canon cause either the straw hats gets disband or they still continuing to journey so who knows.
tbh I just want a One Piece game that makes me play the story ala DBZ:Kakarot or Ninja Storm
true
Pw4 is so fun
i can't wait for Enel
I wanna get film red dlc at some point
King
I voted for him too

But yeah I donβt think Vivi would fully relinquish her status as heir to the throne unless something truly happens that makes her give up on that.
Wish S-Hawk also got in but you win some you lose some
i don't know why they decided to include S-Snake instead of Kuma tho
I'll take king and lucci for suuuure
Gear 5 was on the game ?
thats what i heard in a review for the game ye
guys does luffy know about garp situation with blackbeard in manga yet?
I'm not fond of it either tbh, we already have Hancock and S-Snake just has her ability nothing different. S-Hawk is the coolest seraphim, fights the most so there's plenty of move inspirations, and he's ACTUALLY different than Mihawk
no
Egghead rep but pretty sure they are going to add Kuma later assuming that he wasnβt on the game already
As Marin mentioned last night, I do indeed have a whole project of this thing.
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Imma play some mihawk to vent rq
they have to add him
s-snake best seraphim
i guess so yeah
Pirate warriors or odyssey?
odyssey
I think they will do that in future plus the Gorosei too
maybe, or it will be saved for PW5
when new chap of manga arrives ? every month?
Awakened lucci looks so fire
Sunday every week, ideally.
This is first time I heard of that
A shame the other 2 in his dlc don't interest me
Bonney and Lucci look great yeah
Those arenβt the last dlc of the game right ?
i don't think we know, lol
It's been "the last DLC" for 2 DLCs now
currently we're averaging 2 per month i think although we recently had 3 in a row
you can check #announcements for chapter releases
When is the last time they said that ?
Roger/Rayleigh/Garp
Oh yeah but of course that wasnβt the case
Cause of egghead rep
And then eventually Elbaf rep
Should've included a Primebeard costume
people thought that Egghead would be saved to pw5
oh i just wanted to know, btw i just completed water 7 long way to go
if youre ok with game spoilers, a youtuber search should reveal all the details
i havent done so since i had a vague plan to finish odyssey at some pt 
and an old Garp one, given they had the model lol
same with old Rayleigh iirc
I might try to look up on that later
ah
Although if PW4 is still on going I do hope Vivi would eventually make it especially if she might show up on Elbaf
well old Garp at least
oh em gee, you shouldnt be here lmao, hella spoilers in these manga channels, you should only chat here if youre caught up
#anime isnt really safe either but technically less spoilers there π
And assuming we would get Elbaf stuff on PW4
she'll probably be in there some point
Yeah and she was in the fan vote too but hopefully this is a sign that she can make it lol
If not then pw5 lol
thanks but i have some shit friends who spoiled me somethings like ace will die π
thats crazy considering ace lives, what silly friends π
rq who are your top 5 favorite chars so far
it would be funny if Big News Morgans was added as well
didnt talk to them for 3 days came to my house to apologise lol
lmaooo so deserved on their part
apart from luffy and crew or including him?
this you?
yes sir
4.14 am wtf?
how much did your friends tell you π
mine are Dragon, Big News Morgans, Roger and Crocodile, can't think of a 5th one
a lot
im cooked fr
hush
actually the fifth one is probably Fisher Tiger
my top 5 are dragon garp shanks whitebeard and no one
SHANKS IN TOP 5 THATS GOATED
shanks fans never lose ok? never let anyone convince you otherwise

he holds the most aura man
Shanks fans cried this chapter
dragon is mystery lets see when dragon and luffy meet
chinmay, you have good taste, pls continue your journey away from manga channels to avoid more spoilers π i hope we can chat when youre caught up frfr
ok thanks
remember when there was a catching-up channel 
they mean Groudon
no im a new gen
I used to go there and spoil people, good times
You can forget that part cause it's wrong
but Kyogre claps
have fun! grab some tissues if youre susceptible to emotional damage π
Weak
Manga readers who are catching up have no place in this server
me fr
it has its lore iykyk
I thought they were gonna kiss π
The strongest of future meets the strongest of today
Wonderful gif
that will be a cliffhanger
break for 2weeks
I'd be more hyped than I was for the G5 reveal break
what are some speculations for next weeks chapter
rocks final words using VOAT
but this time he will actually give informative info
that we may or may not see shown
like?
We cut to Harald's reaction to what happened in God Valley, quick time skip to gloss over what he did in the years between God Valley and his death and the chapter ends with his assassination attempted starting







