also-manga

[frozen ravine]

The admiral rocks killed was an animal, and he died like an animal

[formal wagon]

[frozen ravine]

He was the third skull from Blackbeards flag

[potent pier]

Right now I'm mappng out the journey lines where kuma sent the strawhats

so far, chopper had the longest distance

[hazy echo]

Oh just got around to reading the SBS

So 1541 is the current year

[formal wagon]

💀 current year

[hazy echo]

Ya for OP

[formal wagon]

its 1541 and pirates are STILL looking for the one piece

[hazy echo]

What if One Piece ends at chapter 1541

[graceful belfry]

I wouldn’t mind

I’m greedy and selfish. I can admit it

[formal wagon]

i would be SO MAD

i want it to end at 1567

[potent pier]

The majenta line on the bottom is God valley to Sorbet kingdom

[upbeat yarrow]

377 chapters left

[formal wagon]

sixty seven chapters left

[potent pier]

And this would be the shortest distance between god valley and Sorbet

[tranquil blade]

I'd say we have like 250 chapters left

[upbeat yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-sonic-the-hedgehog-bruh-shut-up-didnt-ask-gif-26173232

[potent pier]

WHat do you guys thinik?

[potent pier]

Correction, Brook had the longest journey.

[frigid gulch]

Someone out there calling Dragon a fraud for this..

[potent pier]

Narrator: Little did he know at the time, he suceeded

[tranquil blade]

He's like Syrup Village Usopp level here it's okay

and Shanks did still make it out okay

[frigid gulch]

[tranquil blade]

but idk if Dragon ever figured that out

[frigid gulch]

Kuma > Rocks

Speedblitzed him

[potent pier]

Essentially he dipped back to ginny and ivankov

would send them to sorbet right after that

[frigid gulch]

Have we seen name tags on them

Because the Roger Pirates knew Shanks’ name

[potent pier]

shanks arm is always cut off in view

[frigid gulch]

Unless Dragon just didn’t pay attention due to the stress

Which is fine

He may not know

[potent pier]

Okay as I asked earlier, how is he getting off

[frigid gulch]

Who

[potent pier]

Dragon

[frigid gulch]

Well he’ll probably realize soon he needs to get back to the ship

[sage temple]

Because he still hasn't done anything

Not a thing done on god valley and nothing done for the past few chapters

[frigid gulch]

Bruh

[potent pier]

🚢 for ship 🐾 for paw paw fruit for devil fruit

[frigid gulch]

Even if he wasn’t with Shanks all the way through

He still did most of the work

[sage temple]

Oops I missed 1122

[potent pier]

Now we're going into dragon's backstory now?

[subtle meteor]

Dragon saved Kuma/Ivankov/Ginny's group from being shot iirc

[tough igloo]

history repeats itself

[frigid gulch]

Plus this is supposed to be his Sabaody moment

Where he realizes how powerless he is

[frigid gulch]

Yup this too

That was actually super clutch if you think about it

Otherwise loads of people would’ve been done for

[sage temple]

I wouldn't say we're going into that but he's def included but I doubt he'll do much

[subtle meteor]

Yeah indirectly, Dragon helped save 500+people

[sage temple]

Blackbeard, slave-owner of hundreds would've been done for

Indirectly, Dragon helped enslave thousands

[frigid gulch]

Alright brah stop trolling

[sage temple]

I'm saying this to show u how useless indirect feats are

Cz you can just use that for any evil person down the line that they saved

[olive sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/carrot-one-piece-excited-gif-1418096004376653975

[frigid gulch]

It’s dumb to do that. Then you’d have to blame Garp for being Dragon’s father and also WB for saving him

[gloomy tree]

as you should obviously

[frigid gulch]

Err ig WB not quite

[gloomy tree]

and dont forget to call them frauds

[sage temple]

Yeah so saying someone saving a few kids is clutch doesn't make much sense. I mean sure it's good but it isn't like distinguishing at all

[frigid gulch]

I could probably spin it the same way for Loki

It is clutch

Because one of those kids saved many lives

[gloomy tree]

how is saving kids not clutch, no matter what these kids are in the future

[frigid gulch]

As I said it’s stupid to do a cascade type effect

[sage temple]

I don't think I understand what clutch is then but I don't think it's distinguishing. Otama can do that

[tough igloo]

facts

[frigid gulch]

It’s clutch because he basically did it in the nick of time

The CD had the shot lined up

[sage temple]

Oh that's clutch I see

I mean last minute's fine ig

But then again it's just 3 kids it really isn't all that

[gloomy tree]

[tough igloo]

Kuma & Teach having a feast together in Mariejois of all places is wild now after this flashback

[rich hornet]

With Kozuki Moria. This series is wild

[trim lily]

kozuki moria is such a funny sentence

why is it real

[tough igloo]

a buccaneer , a davy clan member & kozuki & a former CD all having dinner together in Mariejois

[frigid gulch]

Mihawk aura farm

Probably the first time the Warlords assembled like that

[tough igloo]

lmao Teach being the only one that’s eating while everybody else just sitting there 🤦🏾‍♂️😂

[frigid gulch]

Teach gotta maintain his belly somehow

[olive sigil]

Buccaneer, kozuki, Davy, celestial dragon and some dude having a meal

[trim lily]

he got THREE cherry pies

his greed knows no bounds

[pulsar path]

Such a wild image tbh all of them have cursed blood other than fraudhawk

[tough igloo]

3 cherry pies and some meat while everybody else has nothing .. bro was the only one that requested some food 😂

[pulsar path]

If that was Luffy tho?

[stuck pagoda]

Speaking of Mihawk😏

Is this where I can yap about the manga and where the story is/should be heading

[olive sigil]

We can’t

[tough igloo]

lol yeah

[prisma idol]

Who cares about Midhack

[stuck pagoda]

Lmao bet

[prisma idol]

Shanks wins

[stuck pagoda]

What yall think about this

[stuck pagoda]

The cope is strong in this one

[olive sigil]

He’s mihawk of the Tuah family

[stuck pagoda]

Nvm it doesn’t let me send photos lol

But basically

[graceful grove]

he can actually use his df to empty his belly. he just choose to look that way

Peak Beard

[stuck pagoda]

I asked chat gpt what makes the most sense narratively for shamrock , for him to fight either Zoro shanks or Mihawk

And it said zoro makes the most sense

What yall think about that

[prisma idol]

Chatgpt🥀

[stuck pagoda]

Chat gpt goated

[frigid gulch]

I mean

[tough igloo]

use the gravity of darkness to absorb the fat .. bro just like having a belly

[stuck pagoda]

If you know how to ask the right questions

[frigid gulch]

Loki has a bit more of a case

[stuck pagoda]

Dam I didn’t think of Loki lol

But I figured it would boil down to one of those 3

[graceful grove]

gpt is old news bud. get on Grok imagine and ask it to animate Croco giving birth to Luffy

[frigid gulch]

But it could just be nothing tbh

[pine ridge]

@grok is this true

[frigid gulch]

I don’t expect Shamrock to return

With Imu here

[sage temple]

Loki ofc

[tough igloo]

I don’t think he’s coming back to elbaf but outside of that I can see Loki , Shanks and/or Sabo being the people who could possibly end up fighting shamrock in the story

[stuck pagoda]

Shanks because he’s family and nature vs nurture

Zoro because he NEEDS to face a top tier swordsman, he’s learning to master his conqerours and needs someone to test it on,

And finally Mihawk his reason for fighting shamrock is he has yet to face a real challenge on screen and it would be nice if Oda used shamrock to remind the reader why Mihawk is the wss

I think all 3 of those make more sense then Loki tbh

[frigid gulch]

Sengoku said they should strike Cross Guild down

[stuck pagoda]

Isn’t grok something u gotta pay for

[pastel river]

[frigid gulch]

So maybe we’ll see the Marines launch an operation

I’d expect an admiral at least

[stuck pagoda]

Smoker

[frigid gulch]

So that’s where Mihawk could shine

[graceful grove]

strongest swordsman is Ethan. thats who Zoro will face. Shamrock have Loki and some family issues to solve first

[stuck pagoda]

He needs to kill or beat a top tier swordsman tho lol

So does Zoro

[frigid gulch]

Eh

[graceful grove]

only for premium version.

[stuck pagoda]

Zoro needs to beat a gatekeeper

[frigid gulch]

It’s alright if he also just shows he’s strong in my eyes

[stuck pagoda]

And Mihawk neeeds to flex

[stuck pagoda]

That’s a fair point

Zoro not gonna catch Mihawk by beating yonko commanders forever lol

[frigid gulch]

Zoro I do agree but I’m not sure

[graceful grove]

Sengoku is an idiot. no one is taking down CG xd

[frigid gulch]

Shiryu.. Nusjuro

Two opponents lined up

Nusjuro would be a real challenge too

[stuck pagoda]

That is true

Zoro has to kill nusjoro ngl

[frigid gulch]

I’d hope it’s not a throw away line

[stuck pagoda]

And take the sword

[frigid gulch]

Because he said it lowers Marine morale

Seems pretty serious to me

[stuck pagoda]

CG might as well be the revolutionary army lol

[graceful grove]

they might round up the red shirts but the main crew is destined to be in final war and 80% in LT

[frigid gulch]

Oh ye

It’s not like I’m saying the Marines would win

[stuck pagoda]

If they send Kizaru to get folded ima die lol

[graceful grove]

they have to make a move to stop/slow down the marines bounty

[stuck pagoda]

“Borsalino go handle Mihawk “

[frigid gulch]

It’s just a question of it being a real threat to them

[tranquil blade]

They gonna send Aramaki again

[stuck pagoda]

Black blade green bull agenda

[tranquil blade]

and it's gonna go even worse than it went in Wano for him

[trim lily]

i want greenbull to have a black blade so badly

[stuck pagoda]

“Does the middle generation scare you that much” -Mihawk after violating Aramaki with ACOC

[trim lily]

him being the only other character in the series besides the worlds strongest swordsman to have a black blade would be so good

[frigid gulch]

Toei coloured it white

[stuck pagoda]

Really?

I think that’d be ass

[frigid gulch]

And then Shueisha changed it to black

[stuck pagoda]

If Fujitora had one then yea

[trim lily]

i think it would be very funny

[frigid gulch]

But lately my trust in Toei has waned

[graceful grove]

its is a black blade. he just don't like the color black so he painted over it

next level racism

[frigid gulch]

So idc for what they do mostly

[stuck pagoda]

Hawkeye did say any blade can become black

[trim lily]

allegedly

[stuck pagoda]

But a skillful grade black blade isn’t scaring anyone

It needs to be great or supreme imo

[frigid gulch]

Yea if you coat it in haki

It becomes one temporarily

[urban lodge]

I don't trust anime colors except for this specific instance

[tranquil blade]

Mihawk gatekeeping the method

[frigid gulch]

There’s more to it for a permanent one

[supple bane]

wapol hails supreme. his devil fruit is so over powered that wapol could make his own pluton just by eating a junkyard. wapol literally built a powerful toy company and got a new kingdom through his own willpower. Wapol is the true example of a legend and he will one retrun to kill imu.

[urban lodge]

Because I refuse to believe it's a black blade

[trim lily]

i need oda to listen to me on this

[stuck pagoda]

Same

[graceful grove]

one of oda fuck ups. should've made it 2 different colors

[stuck pagoda]

If anyone needs a black blade it’s nusjoro

[trim lily]

greenbull just found a random black blade in a flea market and took it with him

[stuck pagoda]

Blud had 800 years

If Mihawk can gatekeep from a 800 year old elder we gotta raise his stocks

[frigid gulch]

Oda also

[dense haven]

black blade wankers are so cringe

[stuck pagoda]

How

It’s not wank it’s reading the story

[frigid gulch]

Ignore him

[stuck pagoda]

U right

Is this server strict on cussing lol

[trim lily]

no

[prisma idol]

No

[stuck pagoda]

Bet

[frigid gulch]

Nah

[stuck pagoda]

Anyways

[digital spear]

What were you planning to do

[stuck pagoda]

Nun

[trim lily]

the whole black blade thing is weird cause why is mihawk literally the only person we’ve seen have one

[stuck pagoda]

Just for future reference

[graceful grove]

no more than black leg wankers

[trim lily]

plenty of other people have had extremely strong haki and a sword but no black blade

[frigid gulch]

It’s like awakening seemingly

[stuck pagoda]

You have to have the cream do the crop haki apparently

[frigid gulch]

But for swords

[stuck pagoda]

Or haki plus something else

[trim lily]

i assume it has to be more related to swordsman or a special technique

[stuck pagoda]

Yea

[trim lily]

or else roger and shanks should have it

[frigid gulch]

It prob is more akin to zoan awakening

Because swords have wills

Just like zoans do

[stuck pagoda]

Theoretically couldn’t other weapons become black too, like a black staff or axe

[trim lily]

yeah

[frigid gulch]

But it isn’t enough to have your will aligned with the blade

Seems like there’s more

[stuck pagoda]

Yea idk how rocks doesn’t have one lol

[frigid gulch]

Yea I think so

[stuck pagoda]

Rocks and Roger should have em

[frigid gulch]

I believe Mihawk said “any weapon”

[trim lily]

rocks doesn’t really care about swordsmanship so it’s likely
more related to that

[stuck pagoda]

Whitebeard too

[trim lily]

rocks just uses his sword like a club

[stuck pagoda]

True

Ig its more about technique than raw haki and power

[frigid gulch]

Eh if awakening tells you anything

[graceful grove]

no reason for Ethan, Roger, Shanks, Rocks or Oden not having it

[stuck pagoda]

But it can’t be all skill lol

[sage temple]

Loki has a black hammer

[trim lily]

yeah

[stuck pagoda]

Deadass?

[frigid gulch]

Being a top tier doesn’t mean you have every ability in the world

[trim lily]

no

[stuck pagoda]

O he trolling

[sage temple]

Looks black to me

[urban lodge]

What if it's lime green

[stuck pagoda]

Ah

[trim lily]

moss hammer would go hard

[sage temple]

I'd call it a lime green hammer

[sage temple]

This is quite black tho don't you think

[stuck pagoda]

Hmm

[trim lily]

pretty black yeah

[hazy echo]

https://x.com/midgetlover2003/status/1738401001655112172

chëęse (@midgetlover2003)

NOTHING BURGER, AURA, AGENDA, MERCHANT, FRAUD, MID, PEAK, POTENTIAL MAN, BLUNDER WOMAN, DOUBLE 07

X · Dec 23, 2023, 3:27 AM

it's been 2 years

[graceful grove]

if Black blade is as rare as oda made it out to be so far, ppl in the verse should be wetting themselves when they see one xd but no one realy cares

[stuck pagoda]

Is it black in every frame tho

[trim lily]

loki’s mighty arm

[potent pier]

Okay here is a map indicating how far each strawhat was sent away by kuma plus the trip he took for god valley to sorbet

[stuck pagoda]

Zoro black blades?

[frigid gulch]

There’s limited interactions tbh

[stuck pagoda]

They were glazing yoru pretty hard in marineford ngl

[frigid gulch]

If it’s like awakening, I don’t see why it has to be

[tranquil blade]

I mean people also dont see them very often

[stuck pagoda]

Maybe you unlock it near death

The fact scopper gaban isn’t walking around with 2 black axes tells me Hawkeye has some insane conqerours

[tranquil blade]

Like there's only 1 guy actively carrying around a black blade

[stuck pagoda]

One guy in every era lol

[sage temple]

I mean yeah

[stuck pagoda]

Bet

Black hammer Loki it is

[distant vine]

Its been a long while since I revisited the mural

I should do that sometime soon

[graceful grove]

add it to the list of things oda hasn't expanded on

[tranquil blade]

The hammer has always been like that it seems, even before Loki got it

[stuck pagoda]

I just hope he got that AFTER shanks lol

[distant vine]

I also havent been consuming many mural theories yet

[frigid gulch]

It’s not black

I just posted it in colour

[sage temple]

Here's a mural theory

[stuck pagoda]

You posted his arm

[tranquil blade]

Why is it blue

[urban lodge]

Poneglyph hammer theory grows

[stuck pagoda]

Ohh I didn’t see the hammer my bad

I thought the blue was something else

[sage temple]

Ain't this his hammer?

[frigid gulch]

I was tryna crop it entirely

It’s his leg

[stuck pagoda]

Seems legit

I like this agenda

[stuck pagoda]

Edited af

[frigid gulch]

See for yourself

[stuck pagoda]

Ain’t no way Luffy walking around with a orange axe

[frigid gulch]

It is

[sage temple]

Shit

[frigid gulch]

Oda likes colours

[stuck pagoda]

Ah

I like it

Zoro definitely got black blades in the cover tho

[frigid gulch]

Yup it’s distinct

[stuck pagoda]

I think he foreshadowing Zoro gets his black blades this arc

[vale heath]

I'm gonna post it too

[stuck pagoda]

He’d have to if he’s gonna beat shamrock

Who has a 3 headed Cerberus blade btw

Each having 1 sword

[pine ridge]

black blade while holding it doesnt count

that's just regular haki

[vale heath]

is a blade that is the color black not a black blade

[stuck pagoda]

He aura farming for the cover ?

[sage temple]

They doo look kinda similar in color though

[frigid gulch]

You can see it here slightly

[stuck pagoda]

Dammit zoro

[vale heath]

i feel like the concept of a permanently haki coated sword isn't some mystical thing that needs to be speculated about like it seems black blade is

it's a sword that the user has permanently infused with haki

and that's it

[stuck pagoda]

Is the ponegltph metal ever revealed

It sounds like some vibranium or something lol

[tranquil blade]

This would make sense if black blades actually had the properties of haki

[stuck pagoda]

Joyboy would have done that then tho tbh

[frigid gulch]

Ye but if that’s the case then it seems like it doesn’t retain the properties of haki

[stuck pagoda]

He put it in a knot

[vale heath]

So then your claim is joyboy was a swordsman?

[frigid gulch]

Zoro cut Monet in half with Shusui

[tranquil blade]

Which they dont because Zoro used Shusui to cut Monet but since he used no haki it didnt kill her

[stuck pagoda]

Was that joyboy or nika

[graceful grove]

black hammer

[royal orchid]

still can't believe the stupid wind knots had lore value with joyboy himself

[frigid gulch]

And it was explicitly stated he didn’t use haki

Just the sword

[vale heath]

Well you said joyboy right here, so

[stuck pagoda]

Yea I was referring to the mural

I don’t remember if that was joyboy or nika

[tranquil blade]

Oda will make every inclusion into the series relevant somehow

[frigid gulch]

Haki knot is pretty soon

[urban lodge]

Except the things that actually need explaining

[royal orchid]

Chekhov is laughing his ass off right now

[frigid gulch]

Oda really snuck Shanks in

[stuck pagoda]

I think the permanent haki thing is more of a time bomb

[frigid gulch]

The chapter after

[stuck pagoda]

Mihawk sword yoru is a refined energy to me like it has its own soul

Not like the haki knot at all

[urban lodge]

This volume 113 marketing is killing me

These damn Figarlands

[tranquil blade]

Like awakening? Wait another 167 chapters for it to be explained

[urban lodge]

This guy is not even in the volume

[graceful grove]

oh hell no. wrong series

[frigid gulch]

Shamrock PR is crazy

[sage temple]

I wonder what about Ragnir makes it produce lightning

[frigid gulch]

The Shanks effect ig

[somber rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/bleach-simpson-homer-gif-12946893

[stuck pagoda]

Isn’t that just haki

[urban lodge]

More like 670

[tranquil blade]

It might be another unique material found only on Elbaph just like Sunstone

[sage temple]

I don't think so

[stuck pagoda]

Ah

[sage temple]

Oh maybe

[stuck pagoda]

Maybe Loki killed enel off screen and put the devil fruit in his hammer

[sage temple]

I like this better sorry Avery

[frigid gulch]

I wonder if Yoru is the Excalibur of the OP world

[tranquil blade]

Okay

[pine ridge]

it's basically a big lightning rod that stores lightning

[sage temple]

Yeah word I guess bro

[frigid gulch]

Ragnir is pretty clearly Mjolnir

[tame garden]

Hey

[somber rivet]

More like Calibur and Zoro will have the Excalibur

[graceful grove]

Oda better not soil this manga with kubo titties bs

[sage temple]

Why is it not copper colored then

[stuck pagoda]

Loki wielding Thor hammer is crazy

[sage temple]

Does this mean Loki is worthy?

[frigid gulch]

Ofc

[sage temple]

"None of you can lift it"

Hidden meanings

[graceful grove]

loki have multiple hammers. he should give one to Usopp

[frigid gulch]

Just wait until Hajrudin does too

[stuck pagoda]

Fax

[sage temple]

Yeah he probably has his old hammer to give away

[tranquil blade]

The hammer is basically bigger than him

[frigid gulch]

Or would Loki not give him Ragnir

[graceful grove]

one that can change its size and you can throw at ppl

[somber rivet]

Hajrudin need a power ups if he want not to be a fodder so...

Give him a devil fruit

[sage temple]

I mean I guess

[somber rivet]

a powerful devil fruit

[stuck pagoda]

Ussop needs a boomerang hammer lol

[sage temple]

That just means Hajrudin is less worthy than Loki right now

[pine ridge]

cause it's a hammer version of a black blade

[sage temple]

Even though he's older

[frigid gulch]

Ancient Giant genes awakening..

[sage temple]

Loki upscale

[graceful grove]

oda foreskinned usopp hammer weapon in Alabasta too

[stuck pagoda]

He WHAT

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-fortnite-early-stream-reunion-gif-143982391907906686

[somber rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/inuyasha-sango-shippo-sangos-boomerang-anime-gif-20562093

A big Boomerang to Ussop

[wet condor]

Hajrudin didn't get any ancient giant blood

[tranquil blade]

Would Hajrudin like double in height and get horns immediately?? It's not happening

[graceful grove]

he is getting a power up. Domi reversi but he gets pummeled to a pulp in next chapter.

[somber rivet]

He will if Imu Domi Reversi him

[blazing mantle]

Hajrudin is getting the plot buff

[stuck pagoda]

Foreskin bro? 😭

[blazing mantle]

Nothing permanent

[somber rivet]

Demon Hajrudin vs Loki

[blazing mantle]

Or I guess it is

[sage temple]

King finding the most outlandish and least likely thing to say at any given moment

[somber rivet]

It will happen

[tranquil blade]

Yeah but then he's evil

[blazing mantle]

Loki

[frigid gulch]

Depends.. do we expect Luffy to get taller

[tranquil blade]

and Loki will still beat his ass

[tranquil blade]

Over like 20-40 years yeah

[trim lily]

hajrudin vs domi loki

[sage temple]

Just not the same at all

[wet condor]

Hajrudin Domi Reversi buff is not enough I'm afraid

[stuck pagoda]

Loki becomes an only child that day

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[frigid gulch]

Bro at least let me finish my thought

[tranquil blade]

21 year old Kaido vs Domi Rocks

[hot cairn]

thought you’d like it

[somber rivet]

Probably. Loki will give him the Bellamy treatment

[wet condor]

Jarul, as far as we know, is not recently related to the Ancient Giants but he' still bigger than Hajrudin

[frigid gulch]

Yea cause there’s a departure between him and Garp

And even Dragon

But he’s also much younger

[sage temple]

That doesn't mean he awakens genes

[stuck pagoda]

I’m surprised there isn’t more armor in one piece, imagine haki coated armor, or even devil fruit infused armor with a infused sword

[hot cairn]

I wouldn’t mind at all LOL

[sage temple]

[royal orchid]

a... departure?

[hot cairn]

same

[blazing mantle]

Divine

[frigid gulch]

I mean technically if Hajrudin somehow blooms late

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/gol-d-roger-roger-oden-one-piece-anime-gif-26532938

[sage temple]

That just doesn't ever happen

[tranquil blade]

Yeah but he also has had way longer to grow than Hajrudin, he's like almost 5 times older than him

[wet condor]

That man is 28 in giant years

[blazing mantle]

Is that even how genes work for races

[frigid gulch]

Wdym it doesn’t happen

[sage temple]

I'm crying does King think genes are like an ability you can turn on and off

[wet condor]

Oh human years rather

[sage temple]

😭

[stuck pagoda]

O wow

Black hammer ussop

[wet condor]

My man getting a growth spurt in his 30s

[frigid gulch]

I’m just going off OP logic

[somber rivet]

Maybe it is for the Lunariams.

[frigid gulch]

But I’m pretty sure it happens IRL too

In some cases

[sage temple]

This has never happened in one piece

[stuck pagoda]

Who got whooped by more legends, oden or Loki

[somber rivet]

And, you mean King user.

[tranquil blade]

Honestly Jarul is old even for a giant, like he'd be over 100 in giant years

[wet condor]

He's 400 years old chronologically

Or close to it

[sage temple]

Yeah after 3 years I suddenly sprouted a 6th finger and 3 legs because of departure

[tranquil blade]

I thought it was 300

[somber rivet]

Just like Kureha

[wet condor]

Irl he'd be 133

I might be wrong

[tranquil blade]

Yeah he's really old

[urban lodge]

He's over 400

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/oden-dance-one-piece-kozuki-gif-21215699

[wet condor]

He's 408

Jesus

[sage temple]

Really Avery? What makes you say that

[stuck pagoda]

Dude was twerking for liberation

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-desert-speed-idiot-mario-bros-wii-gif-4579521032062283911

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-shaking-head-speed-shaking-head-speed-clapping-hands-gif-7797247252281441694

[frigid gulch]

Socrates ik you’re seething at the idea cause it would mean Hajrudin is more like Loki but it’s not outlandish

[wet condor]

Jarul doesn't have that vitality in him that a lot of the other pirate/warrior old-timers we come across tend to

[stuck pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-loki-one-piece-one-piece-timur-lf-elbaph-gif-800055372273514712

[wet condor]

He feels every bit of his age

[stuck pagoda]

I’m surprised we already have Loki gifs

[frigid gulch]

My whole point is

[tranquil blade]

Well yknow Sanji's exoskeleton did kick in like 20 years late so

So I guess...

[sage temple]

No because you're saying Hajrudin would grow 50 meters in an instant which just makes no sense at all

[wet condor]

But Oda made him say some cool shit before the flashback

So maybe he'll do something cool and impressive

[sage temple]

This was because of an actual change to Sanji's genes and body

[urban lodge]

Jarul is gonna die but he's gonna go out like a champ

[sage temple]

I hope Loki saves him just in time

[frigid gulch]

Garp and Dragon are quite a bit taller than Luffy so it depends on whether he would grow additionally close to where they are. It’s the same idea but with a little funky spin

[sage temple]

Like on some Shanks type stuff when he stopped MF war

[tranquil blade]

Yeah Jarul is for sure gonna die

[frigid gulch]

I didn’t quite say that

[stuck pagoda]

His mom has to be really short

[tranquil blade]

I think he's kinda chill with Loki though

[stuck pagoda]

If Luffy doesn’t grow at all

[sage temple]

You said an ancient giant gene awakening

[frigid gulch]

It can be gradual

Ye

That’s just a general thing

[stuck pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-west-stare-staring-funny-gif-13590085

[hazy echo]

https://x.com/ususmomo/status/1984886251519144291?s=46

も🍑 (@ususmomo)

推しカプの身長差が5mある件について

X · Nov 2, 2025, 7:32 AM

[frigid gulch]

Sanji is a case but he’s also funky

But if it’s a funky case

Then Hajrudin’s can also just be the same

[hasty sable]

Jarul will live I think

[sage temple]

No that's just not the same because his genes were modified for him to have powers

[hasty sable]

Can’t believe Vegapunk is coming back to life

[frigid gulch]

Yes but they never manifested until recently

[sage temple]

I really am betting Loki saves Jarul

[tranquil blade]

Actually if Jarul knows the location of those hammer-wielding giants from those letters he might live

[hot cairn]

Oda aint killing people

Jarul will be fine

[tranquil blade]

Just so he can tell someone

[sage temple]

They were manifested because his genes were modified by the suit

[hasty sable]

Sukiyaki lived. Jarul is fine.

[frigid gulch]

Yes

[sage temple]

You're saying Hajrudin will just randomly awaken ancient giant genes

[frigid gulch]

But that doesn’t have to apply to Hajrudin

Yes exactly

[tranquil blade]

Sukiyaki also didnt have to fight the literal soldiers of satan too but

I mean it's possible

[graceful grove]

Oden rep will never recover. got literally cooked by Orochi of all ppl

[frigid gulch]

Because that’s the point of it being a funky case

[hasty sable]

Sukiyaki survived twenty years in Kaido ruled Wano when Orochi knew he was alive so

[sage temple]

Maybe the world will explode because it's just a funky case and sometimes op logic lets that happen

[hasty sable]

If he can survive that Jarul is fine

[urban lodge]

Yeah but Orochi is stupid

[hasty sable]

Luffy and Loki are also there

[frigid gulch]

Also does follow IRL in some cases where you can grow even past your 20s

[hazy echo]

https://fixupx.com/ishi_01/status/1984904164116464005/en

Ishi (@Ishi_01)

📑 Translated from Japanese

I was thinking, while reading the original story recently, that Gol D. Roger was so cool when he was young.

Original text
ガープ若い頃かっこいいなと、最近原作読んでて思った

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FixupX · Nov 2, 2025, 8:43 AM

[tranquil blade]

I think Zoro and Sanji are about to lose pretty badly

[frigid gulch]

Or past the age where people generally stop growing

[hasty sable]

Roger forever the GOAT

[urban lodge]

And also he's like Kureha old in human years but obviously didn't age as gracefully

[hasty sable]

Zoro and Sanji vs Dorry and Brogy

They got this

[tranquil blade]

Well because he isnt a medical expert like Kureha

[frigid gulch]

Nah

[tranquil blade]

They're cooked man

[frigid gulch]

They’re facing the Knights

[urban lodge]

Zoro and Sanji vs Killingham and Sommers

[tranquil blade]

I think they'll fight Sommers and Killingham

[sage temple]

I hope Loki 1v2s them if he gets the chance

[hasty sable]

The knights are basically salt with now I think

[graceful grove]

they have to without a doubt. maybe that will be the final nail to make this lot do actual training

[tranquil blade]

Leave the giants to fight the giants

[hasty sable]

Killingham will be an Usopp boss if Oda is good

[frigid gulch]

The giants are not being beaten

[tranquil blade]

and dont ask Arsal how strong he thinks Domi Dorry and Brogy are

[frigid gulch]

It’s about turning them back

[brittle basin]

[stuck pagoda]

Oof you’re right

[frigid gulch]

Rocks seemed to straight up kill his family that was turned

[hasty sable]

They can still fight them first

[hot cairn]

Zoro and Sanji are 100% fighting Killingham and Summers

[stuck pagoda]

He was a grown ass man too

[trim lily]

insert blackbeard gif here

[tranquil blade]

I do kinda want him to fight Killingham due to his ability but I dont think he can do it on his own of course

[frigid gulch]

No they can’t

[stuck pagoda]

Loki was a kid at least and it was rocks

[frigid gulch]

Not unless we know the extent of their powers

[hasty sable]

Killingham might be too much for Usopp fr

[frigid gulch]

Which we do with the knights

[hasty sable]

But I still want it

[stuck pagoda]

Loki only real stain is losing to shanks im 90 percent sure Loki was the original yonko , he still got a better track record than oden tho

[tranquil blade]

Like you could have Zoro and Usopp fight Killingham but then Usopp is kinda in the way

[golden valley]

Killingham vs Usopp doesn’t have to be 1v1

[hasty sable]

I think it’ll be Zoro & Sanji vs Dorry and Brogy for now though

[sage temple]

his stain is losing to the strongest pirate rn

[hasty sable]

I think Summers is dealt with

[frigid gulch]

I would like the others to contribute but it’s a waste of time almost

[trim lily]

the problem is oda made it so the only weakness of the knights is something 4 people on the island have

[graceful grove]

always been from day 1. we got government corruption and police brutality with marines/axe hand morgan

[sturdy steeple]

Sommers is fine though?

[hot cairn]

Loki and Hajrudin exist

[trim lily]

yeah sommers is chilling

[hot cairn]

no he’s not

[urban lodge]

Sommers already regenerated

[hasty sable]

I might have speedread

[tranquil blade]

Sommers is a really fun opponent at least

[hasty sable]

Because I thought Gaban dealt with him

[hot cairn]

he regenerated

[trim lily]

i pray he doesn’t have to fight luffy and zoro

[tranquil blade]

He regened after Imu showed up

[hasty sable]

[sturdy steeple]

Yeah, Sommers stood up and regenerated.

[hot cairn]

and is following Imu’s orders

[hasty sable]

RIP

[frigid gulch]

It’s interesting cause Garling looked totally cooked lol

[tranquil blade]

Conquerors haki doesnt permanently stop regen

It just slows it severely

[frigid gulch]

I have to wonder if the strength of the attack matters

[hasty sable]

Yeah he will probably be a Sanji fight then

[trim lily]

right now we don’t have an actual way to beat them

[sage temple]

Hajrudin sneak

[stuck pagoda]

Yea

[trim lily]

even rocks only made garlic slow down

[stuck pagoda]

Cuz we hold Loki to a high standard

[hot cairn]

I’m choosing to ignore you Socrates

[hasty sable]

Sanji was raising a fuss about having CoC too

[sturdy steeple]

Sommers does seem to be the type to be Sanji’s opponent, yeah.
And Killingham so far is whatever but it only makes sense for him to be Zoro’s then.

[hasty sable]

So he might get it against Sommers

[frigid gulch]

Ye Rocks slowed it down initially

[stuck pagoda]

Unless shanks had help to beat Loki then it’s null and void lol

[brittle basin]

I think Oda keeps referencing to conq haki both in the present and past because it is the way to beat them in the long run.

[frigid gulch]

But then the big attack laid Garling on his ass

[hot cairn]

peak

[stuck pagoda]

I forgot how that happened

If it was revealed I mean

[sage temple]

Yeah you don't want this

[frigid gulch]

Granted we haven’t seen him after

[hazy echo]

My theory was the Abyss Mark being the Achilles heel

[tranquil blade]

Tridents have 3 blades on them, Zoro uses 3 blades

[graceful grove]

we all know who is about to find the answer for it

[hazy echo]

If it makes sense

[trim lily]

but if rocks could only slow down garlic’s regen with his monstrous haki then what else is there

a third coc technique

[hot cairn]

Gaban and Rocks both used it and they still regenerated

[brittle basin]

slash them enough and they won't have anything left to regenerate is what I thought was happening

[stuck pagoda]

I really don’t think Shanks beat Loki by himself tbh

[tranquil blade]

Also Zoro could fight a nightmare version of Sanji theoretically

[frigid gulch]

Maybe it depends on the strength of the attack with conq

[sturdy steeple]

An emo boy with a trident fighting Zoro? Hmmmm, makes sense.

[trim lily]

but rocks is like the strongest character we’ve seen

[brittle basin]

there could be a third conq technique though, though you have to wonder why Gaban didn't use it

[hazy echo]

I think that you just have to attack the mark specifically

[brittle basin]

ooh

maybe

[stuck pagoda]

No one safe from imu dih 🥀

[trim lily]

i wouldn’t mind that

[brittle basin]

wait what about shanks arm though?

[tranquil blade]

I think he did, because I think Luffy is meant to be an equal to Shanks by the end of this arc and Gaban seemed to think Luffy at least had a good shot at beating Loki

[urban lodge]

Lord of the coast has acoc obviously

[frigid gulch]

Yea it’s tough to say tbh

[hazy echo]

The Abyss Mark being the Achilles Heel essentially is what I think how the HKs is going to be dealt with

[hasty sable]

I regret what I said about Lucci during this arc because he was actually pretty awesome

[sturdy steeple]

Who dis

[stuck pagoda]

Dam, I’d imagine a fight between them two in their prime would be extreme diff lol , how did Loki end up being tied up again

[hasty sable]

Also had real character growth

[urban lodge]

No one will ever make me dislike Lucci

[hot cairn]

what did you used to say

[trim lily]

yeah lucci in egghead was great

[brittle basin]

video game bosses smh

[hazy echo]

Ya

[urban lodge]

It was cool to see this more human angle to him

[tranquil blade]

Shanks beats him and drags him back to Elbaph, where they chain him up indefinitely

[frigid gulch]

I mean he’s not KO

[sturdy steeple]

I don’t think the mark is their weakness. Most of them were attacked in a way that affected their whole body and nothing happened.

[stuck pagoda]

Shanks is a menace lol

[hasty sable]

I assumed Lucci was there just to show how out of his depth he was now compared to the straw hats. I was kind of right but it was more respectful than I thought it would be.

[tranquil blade]

Gaban says it took Red-haired Shanks to defeat Loki and bring him back

[frigid gulch]

But did he get up shortly afterwards?

[stuck pagoda]

Was Loki in his prime during that time

[hazy echo]

Ya here was my theory about it

#manga-theories message

[frigid gulch]

Almost seemed like he killed his family too

[hot cairn]

I think Oda respects his characters a lot

[tranquil blade]

Uh well he shouldnt be any weaker then than now

[stuck pagoda]

Ah

[hasty sable]

It’s still funny how evil he is when it’s anybody but Kaku lol

[tranquil blade]

but his prime is probably decades into the future since he's young for a giant

[stuck pagoda]

That’s a good point

[hazy echo]

Sentomaru actually got it the worst this arc

Nobody talks about his losses

[stuck pagoda]

Loki might just be the gohan of one piece lol

[sage temple]

Sento survived tho

[hasty sable]

At least Sento isn’t a bootlicker anymore

[stuck pagoda]

Too young to be goated but insane potential

[hot cairn]

do you guys think the flashback will end with Harald’s death or will we see Loki’s life after that?

[sturdy steeple]

He was late for one arc funnily enough. He’d probably make a mess out of Luffy in the beginning of Wano.

[tranquil blade]

My assumption is Loki is gonna one day surpass Harald but I don't think it's happened yet

[urban lodge]

We will see it, but Oda will speedrun it

[stuck pagoda]

Yea definitely not

[graceful grove]

https://tenor.com/view/atomic-samurai-one-punch-man-melzargard-atomic-slash-sword-gif-15696509

[hasty sable]

Crocodile too

[hazy echo]

Great comparison actually

[frigid gulch]

Loki pirate life montage

[wraith mantle]

is redon still busy

[hazy echo]

Fight smarter not harder

[frigid gulch]

1 chapter speedrun

[sage temple]

Prolly just sulking away

[tranquil blade]

I mean with what they said to Redon I dont blame him

[leaden rivet]

Because of how dirty rocks did Garling it’ll make Whitebeard look bad if he seems even close to even with him lol

[wraith mantle]

he needs to get over it asap

[hot cairn]

I agree, might just be one chapter

[frigid gulch]

Good thing Garling didn’t do anything

[sage temple]

He's a snowflake if he quits

[frigid gulch]

[tranquil blade]

Domi Rocks is probably the strongest fighter we've seen so far easily right?

[stuck pagoda]

Gotta be

[frigid gulch]

Ye

[hazy echo]

Apart from Imu yes

[tranquil blade]

Like I don't think Whitebeard in his prime could've even dealt with that

[sage temple]

Yeah

[stuck pagoda]

That rocks gotta be joyboy level

[tranquil blade]

I do think Joyboy might end up surpassing this

when we actually see him

[sage temple]

Idk

[frigid gulch]

Idk

[urban lodge]

Joyboy will be the most glazed character in the series

[hazy echo]

Bro he already is

[stuck pagoda]

I think it’s nika lol joyboy was just the vessel for nika

[sage temple]

Joyboy is def stronger than Rocks

[wraith mantle]

i doubt joyboy will be glazed more than shanks

[sturdy steeple]

Depends on how hard Garp and Roger go against domi-reversed Rocks.

[tranquil blade]

I figure Joyboy is going to be almost completely incomparable to everyone else

[leaden rivet]

Whitebeard is going to go extreme diff with him

[sage temple]

😭

[urban lodge]

Well yes, but it's just getting started

[hasty sable]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-gif-17511868351874922325

[stuck pagoda]

Joyboy should be tough but idk

[frigid gulch]

Absolutely not

[tranquil blade]

He could still come back

[stuck pagoda]

If Ryuma really is a rival for joyboy like the people in wano said that might be joyboy downscale

Joyboy lowkey been getting passed around

First ryuma comparisons now shanks

[tranquil blade]

I like Kidd's design and I think his personality is cool I hope he comes back

[brittle basin]

ah that was a good read. i forgot gaban cut him in half. i guess that alone is proof you need more than conq. your theory has weight then.

[frigid gulch]

Ryuma is him too

[sage temple]

I rather Kidd die he's a piggyback character

[stuck pagoda]

Mfs gonna say Jinbei has armament comparable to joyboy next chapter

[urban lodge]

Captain John being a bum makes me like Kid more in comparison

[sturdy steeple]

Why next chapter? We might as well say it now.

[tranquil blade]

Why

[stuck pagoda]

The problem with that is it implies Mihawk might be joyboy level too lol

[urban lodge]

He didn't job to a booger

[stuck pagoda]

Then everything gets messy

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/netflix-mihawk-gif-16017751859179581136

[frigid gulch]

Well.. Shanks seems to have comparable haki

[hazy echo]

Ty Ty

[stuck pagoda]

And Mihawk being my goat I have him equal or above Ryuma so I don’t have a issue with it

But everyone can’t be comparable to joyboy

[tranquil blade]

I mean technically Joyboy could be only slightly stronger than the guys we've seen so far but he is treated as like a demi-god almost so idk

[stuck pagoda]

If that’s the case then let shanks solo imu

[frigid gulch]

But I don’t think they’re as strong as Joyboy

[hot cairn]

are you rereading Egghead Archer

[leaden rivet]

I mean it’s just possible rocks isn’t as strong as we think he is

[hasty sable]

Just kind of sifting through it

[tranquil blade]

I mean maybe but

[stuck pagoda]

I definitely have prime wb over base rocks now

[leaden rivet]

Rocks is after all fighting a bunch of guys who aren’t in their prime yet

[tranquil blade]

If he managed to keep Whitebeard under him during that time he had to be pretty crazy

[frigid gulch]

Before he got compared to Shanks I’d say ye

But even then

Nika fruit is still pretty great

[hasty sable]

Do it Bonney. End him

[stuck pagoda]

The comparisons don’t really upscale shanks it kinda downscales joyboy lol

It makes every top tier joyboy level

[tranquil blade]

I mean they never said Joyboy's haki was just equal to Shanks, just that it's at least that strong

[frigid gulch]

I wouldn’t say that

I just think

[hot cairn]

do you miss it?

[leaden rivet]

Was Joyboy confirmed to have had Nika?

[frigid gulch]

It doesn’t mean Joyboy is massively clear

[brittle basin]

no one is as powerful as joy boy. until they showcase haki that brought imu to their knees at least

[tranquil blade]

and Joyboy has better mastery over conquerors haki than literally anyone else

[tranquil blade]

Yes

[stuck pagoda]

Or maybe the knot was a small fraction of joyboy power

[scenic dirge]

Zoro probably beats him imo

[hasty sable]

It’s pretty good. Wouldn’t say I miss it but it’s a good arc.

[brittle basin]

!zolo

[tropic nova]

“Zolo winz!!!!” -Eiichiro Oda, Jump New Years conference (January 2nd 2005)

[frigid gulch]

It was his strongest

He said it

[stuck pagoda]

O my

[tranquil blade]

Now what if there is a gear 6 King

[stuck pagoda]

Yea joyboy downscale

[hasty sable]

If Zoro beats Mihawk he’s stronger than Shanks

[frigid gulch]

The whole point of the knot was to protect Emeth

[hasty sable]

Canon

[frigid gulch]

When Joyboy isn’t physically there

[stuck pagoda]

If we expected to believe joyboy is the only one that can face imu

[tranquil blade]

I mean it's still pretty impressive when you consider Joyboy split the sky completely on his own, something no one else has done

[stuck pagoda]

And shanks is comparable to joyboy

[hasty sable]

I feel like we will never learn how making haki knots works lol

[scenic dirge]

If Zoro beats Imu he's stronger than Mr. 5. This is indisputable

[stuck pagoda]

Then wtf do we need Luffy for

[hazy echo]

Yea

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-darren-watkins-speed-meme-speed-pray-gif-17944518743646793301

[tranquil blade]

Like the emperors still have to clash to split the sky while Joyboy can do it by just flexing his own haki

[leaden rivet]

Shanks>Eos Luffy

I don’t make the rules

[stuck pagoda]

Maybe the giants were just glazing

[tranquil blade]

Illya I know you hate Shanks but

Dont do this

[frigid gulch]

Obviously the Nika fruit

[stuck pagoda]

Oda should’ve said that was only 10 percent of joyboy power lol

Make joyboy look like a menace

[hot cairn]

I’m surprised Oda made Elbaph an isolated arc, I really thought all of the next arcs were going to have cutaways

[scenic dirge]

Luffy is the one character safe from Oda's Shanks glaze

[brittle basin]

Oda when will you show me this?

[frigid gulch]

I’m sorta mixed on what BB will do

[graceful grove]

i have good news and bad news.
Good news.. Kid is in Elbaf rn.
Bad news.. he can't get out of Roads toy house.

[leaden rivet]

To be fair the giants haven’t actually seen shanks full power either so shanks could still be stronger than that

[frigid gulch]

But his fruit is needed too presumably

[tranquil blade]

Luffy objectively has to surpass Shanks is the thing

[sage temple]

Just wait for Loki v Shanks

[stuck pagoda]

People throwing pillows in downtown Brooklyn?

[leaden rivet]

We know that was Joyboy’s full power but was that shanks?

[scenic dirge]

Where tf is Harald

L friend

[tranquil blade]

Like that's an actual goal for Luffy is to surpass Shanks so

It has to happen

[hasty sable]

Vegapunk winning the equivalent to the Nobel Peace Prize is actually an apt real world commentary

[sage temple]

All this Shanks glaze will go to Loki soon once they fight

[frigid gulch]

Ik what you mean but I’d like to pretend they have witnessed his best

[brittle basin]

....this isn't his flashback

[tranquil blade]

If Oda doesnt offscreen it like a coward

[leaden rivet]

Luffy definitely isn’t losing the strawhat so he’s never surpassing shanks. Trust me.

[hasty sable]

Have I mentioned I hate Vegapunk today

[frigid gulch]

Otherwise Shanks’ haki would be above Joyboy

A bit extreme

[leaden rivet]

[sage temple]

If Oda offscreens it I'm finding him

[frigid gulch]

Although..

[scenic dirge]

This stopped being a Loki or Harald flashback like 50 chapters ago

[brittle basin]

Wocks

[hasty sable]

This stopped being a Luffy manga

[frigid gulch]

I won’t write anything off when it relates to Shanks

[hasty sable]

It’s Rocks Piece

[graceful grove]

was never a real friend

[tranquil blade]

Joyboy does have better coc mastery though because he can choose who he wants to knock out with it perfectly

[urban lodge]

Never underestimate Oda's ability to glaze Shanks

[sage temple]

This flashback is very Loki centered

[leaden rivet]

Never downplay the lengths oda is wiling to go Avery

[stuck pagoda]

Rocks shippuden

[tranquil blade]

Something Shanks could not do

[scenic dirge]

You think you know a guy

[hasty sable]

All of One Piece was a prologue for Rocks

[stuck pagoda]

Good point

[scenic dirge]

I'm sure that's the case for you given you skip all panels that don't include Loki

[stuck pagoda]

I need joyboy to be far and above the rest tho

[scenic dirge]

Oooooh gottem

[stuck pagoda]

He can’t be having 6 equals like Roger

[graceful grove]

this is nasty from oda xd

[hasty sable]

Really though

[leaden rivet]

Didn’t we see Rayleigh choose who to knock out with coc?

Why wouldn’t shanks be able to do it

[frigid gulch]

Yes

He should be able to

[hot cairn]

it’s been 5 chapters since we last saw Harald

crazy

[tranquil blade]

I think Joyboy is basically gonna be the pinnacle of strength and mastery for the series, the only two who could possible rival him in his time were Davy Jones and Imu

[stuck pagoda]

Wait didn’t shanks choose green bull lol

[frigid gulch]

Yea

[tranquil blade]

Yeah but he knocked out some of his own men too

[stuck pagoda]

Ohh

Yea he ass

[sage temple]

Idk what made people think this fb was Harald centered

[hasty sable]

Vegapunk is a hilarious character. But also his hypocrisy is probably the most frustrating thing in recent years of OP.

[scenic dirge]

Green bull felt the brunt of it, but people nearby could still feel the "aura" just nowhere near as strongly

[leaden rivet]

Also also, we’ve never seen Joyboy disable observation haki, but do you know who can? Finish this question for me Avery

[brittle basin]

there is no yami power or davy/bb stand-in here right? or is the beast who davy or bb becomes (if it's a future prophecy)?

[hot cairn]

we werent in Elbaph 50 chapters ago silly, or are you implying that this flashback feels 50 chapters long

[frigid gulch]

If you look at the way Oda depicts haki blasts, the lightning usually radiates in every direction from the character when they use one

[hasty sable]

Elbaf has no beginning and no ending

[frigid gulch]

Shanks’ haki looked more restrained

[tranquil blade]

Shanks only is rumored to have that from movie stuff, also let's be honest

[urban lodge]

That's the 2nd world

[scenic dirge]

Ok but you already for certain know there's not a single thing Shanks or anyone else can do with haki that Joyboy wasn't also capable of lol

[stuck pagoda]

Oda really got us analyzing a refrigerator drawing

[frigid gulch]

Against GB

[sage temple]

Loki

[frigid gulch]

Even though he knocked out some rookies

[sage temple]

Loki has the Will of both Joyboy and Davy I'm telling yall

[tranquil blade]

I think the idea here is that Blackbeard exists outside of the prophecy, he's an interloper

[hot cairn]

we’re stuck in a time loop

[ruby moat]

Are u expecting the shanks vs loki reveal to be something like that fake rocks vs admiral sbs

where its like "rocks BACKSTABBED the admiral and the admiral FORCED rocks to retreat"

[frigid gulch]

Shanks 3 shots Loki

[brittle basin]

yeah it could. but that does make me wonder why davy or the yami is not there (i'm assuming the yami is one of the 2 DFs Rocks needed)

[leaden rivet]

Do we really know that Evan? Do we?

[sage temple]

I'm expecting the Shanks v Loki reveal to be something that finally exhibits Shanks struggling

[hot cairn]

Loki vs Shanks is getting like 2 panels max

[sage temple]

That's all I need

[scenic dirge]

yea probably but maybe not idk who knows anything coz i don't know nobody knows any knowers?

[frigid gulch]

Ngl we ain’t see Rocks use any unique haki abilities

[stuck pagoda]

I need Loki to be tough🥀

[frigid gulch]

He just spams conq

[hot cairn]

wasnt pandemonium a haki ability

[sage temple]

This isn't Rocks' flashback so maybe we'll see it later

[stuck pagoda]

On children too lol

[frigid gulch]

?

[tranquil blade]

Which is why he can be the final villain, because he is not chained to the prophecy at all, so his actions cannot be predicted, so he could kill Imu possibly even if it wasn't supposed to be him

[urban lodge]

Joyboy and Davy were not allied I imagine, and that's just Joyboy's alliance that's depicted

[frigid gulch]

It’s an attack

[urban lodge]

It's probably why they failed

[stuck pagoda]

I noticed a pattern tho

[frigid gulch]

Just like normal

[stuck pagoda]

Shanks and rocks or basically everyone who strong so far lets their haki run wild

[sage temple]

Oh that's a good theory

[hot cairn]

what’s the difference?

[stuck pagoda]

I think Mihawk Ryuma and joyboy condense their haki not letting it explode everywhere and that’s what separated them from the rest

[frigid gulch]

I meant more so like Shanks

Who kills obs

[hot cairn]

hilarious

[frigid gulch]

Something more unique

[scenic dirge]

The flashback is probably important to contextualize Loki's character in the present day, but the main perspective (and majority of the characterization so far) has absolutely been Xebec

[wraith mantle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcyCLibZKD4

[leaden rivet]

There hasn’t been enough shanks glazing this flashback

[frigid gulch]

Rocks hasn’t used future sight either to my knowledge

[sage temple]

One Piece fans when a heavily implied fact isn't layed out on a gold platter for them to consume

[stuck pagoda]

Nigga a baby shanks survived a conqerours attack from imu

[leaden rivet]

Stfu Socrates

[hot cairn]

what about Harald? Even though Rocks is more charismatic I think Oda has done a really good job with his characterisation

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-anime-luffy-sparkling-eyes-excited-gif-17906401

[sage temple]

WHAAT A THEORY

[wraith mantle]

and it makes sense

a lunarian DF

[sage temple]

TOP 1 OPTUBER RIGHT THERE

[wraith mantle]

can exist

[urban lodge]

We do learn he was a greedy ass baby tho

[tranquil blade]

Yeah, essentially there is no way for the reader to predict how Blackbeard will be used by Oda, which leaves him open to being basically anything, he could be an ally to beat Imu or he could be an enemy that tries to take Imu's power

[sage temple]

IT GENUINELY DOES

[wraith mantle]

since we have a human human df

[graceful grove]

this is Davy. its joyboy and imu allies taking him down... could be where Imu got those powers from and took over as the king

[stuck pagoda]

I love dawn and dusk

[sage temple]

That's insaneee

[stuck pagoda]

Mr krabs ahh feat

[hot cairn]

underrated moment

man Egghead was pretty good

[brittle basin]

hm, if it ends up being that way i wonder what Davy did to make Imu hate them so much besides simply being king

[formal wagon]

dusk these

[tranquil blade]

I like that despite how evil and scummy Lucci is, he's still prideful regardless

[stuck pagoda]

It definitely was

It dragged at some moments but it was peak overall

[hot cairn]

mailbox look! Lucci panels in the chat

[graceful grove]

Gloriossa saw this neat trick and tried to get on Rogers ship same way.

[formal wagon]

i don't see them

[sage temple]

This theory tops every single one of mine dawn is the goat

And the color of the mother flame is the color of Loki's hair

[leaden rivet]

Lesbehonest

[sage temple]

And maybe even his eyes

[hot cairn]

do you have archer blocked?

[formal wagon]

yeah

[hot cairn]

LOL

[stuck pagoda]

“Lend me some chains shanks, this is you im up against”-Loki

[brittle basin]

have you tried asking him out on a date yet?

[sage temple]

This was 5 weeks ago we're going steady now

[graceful grove]

the depiction look waaaaaay too obvious for it to be a future prediction imo. there is enogh in there to make it a past event so it can work as a clever misdirection. that sounds more like Oda

[hot cairn]

I can’t wait to go back to the present

[sage temple]

I wonder if we'll get an explanation on Loki's special bounty

[sage temple]

Is it because he knew Rocks or if he has a DF the WG wants

[hasty sable]

Luffy still thinking Kaku is Usopp

[scenic dirge]

that's actually kind of messed up

[hot cairn]

still think Oda skipping the seraphim fights was the good choice

[scenic dirge]

That implies Luffy only associates usopp with his long nose

[stuck pagoda]

Same

[scenic dirge]

and doesn't care to reconize any other features

[stuck pagoda]

Well no I can wait nvm

I need more on dragon

[hot cairn]

I can’t

[graceful grove]

another fake friend

[brittle basin]

does he still think Sogeking was a real person?

[stuck pagoda]

I want Oda to milk dragon as much as he can before he returns to the present

[tranquil blade]

Maybe it's because of his royalty status of a once affiliated kingdom, so because of that he's special

[scenic dirge]

I believe he's the only one that doesn't know lol

[rose rune]

Milk dragon...

[hot cairn]

Chopper

[stuck pagoda]

Pause

[sage temple]

Elbaph was affiliated?

I don't remember that

[hot cairn]

we don’t know

[scenic dirge]

oh ye chopper doesn't either lol

[hot cairn]

it probably didnt happen

[brittle basin]

go on.....

[hot cairn]

Harald changed his mind most likely

[tranquil blade]

Not confirmed, but Harald somehow attends another reverie

[digital spear]

WHAT

[hot cairn]

yeah that’s where he meets Shanks

[sage temple]

Could be the same reason he was at the last reverie

[hasty sable]

What if Kid really is dead lmao

[tranquil blade]

So at the least the WG had to have been open to talking with Harald

[stuck pagoda]

If Oda let Kidd get off screened that’s wild