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honest umbra
wait nvm
i dont think its what i was thinking about
i dont think they did that much anymore
seems like a 4 years ago play
lowkey effective doe
dry surge
they brought it in to the league and popularized it
they do it every now and again
but it's easy to recognize if you expect it
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now a ton of other teams do it
the beauty of kerr's offense is that it's a flow offense, doesn't rely on PnR but can easily get looks out of it. strong side screens --> ball handlers screening and filling the lane
baseline screens on the cutter, and then the screener cuts as well
any teams that aren't built to switch are just fucked
rustic ore
Tell y'all what, super hopeful my Magic might be able to lure a decent FA
It's hard being a fan of a small market team
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vucevic is a UFA?
rustic ore
Believe so
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i'm not the biggest fan of his, but hopefully he stays
rustic ore
Rather let him walk tbh, he's a solid offensive player but not great in defense
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those types of bigs are few and far between
also don't know if his last season was replicable
rustic ore
Plus I'd rather let Mo Bamba get his chance to shine
Took him 6th, might as well let him earn his keep
dry surge
tell you who i'm excited about but no one's discussing bc euro big: goga bitadze
so many tools
rustic ore
Oh dude that pic of him at his podium while everyone else swarmed around Zion pissed me off, I hope he becomes a star
dry surge
yeah that's goga
he's a tough kid, doesn't bother him
his game is so fun to watch
NBA comps for draft prospects are usually lazy, but nikola jokic is a fair comp. needs some more shooting touch but he's leagues better athletically
probably not as prolific and flashy of a passer, but he has high basketball IQ and makes all the right passes
celest zephyr
Vucevic to Celtics 
celest zephyr
god I have been cringing throughout this whole bare boxing event
the UFC event was some quality shit though.
rapid umbra
greatest of all time
celest zephyr
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rustic ore
Lobov won so that's...something
Paulie is kind of an asshole so all's well that ends well
celest zephyr
I will be genuine when I say that I thought Paulie was robbed
3-2 would be the best score I could give to Artem and that would still be in favor of Paulie
rustic ore
I thought it was a draw personally, that or the slightest edge to Artem
Def not a unanimous, something is wrong with that
rapid umbra
paulie's eyebrow had a nasty gash on it
if you watched him during his post fight interview
celest zephyr
Yeah but Paulie fought this fight like an actual boxer
landing more shots and attempting to win by the card
rapid umbra
it looked like tender meat falling off BBQ ribs
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that one guy leben fought did gay porn before too
rapid umbra
he openly admitted it himself in an interview
idk what his motives were for doing it
rustic ore
That reminds me of that dude who tried out on the Ultimate Fighter a couple years ago who did the same for some reason, his last name was Cochran 
rapid umbra
that is the guy im talking about lol
he fought leben (also ex ufc fighter) in bare knuckle fighting tonight
rustic ore
Oof
bitter rover
Feel bad for the moose losing
But amazing performance by the korean zombie!!
KZ vs Jose aldo rematch would be an amazing fight for aldos last fight
celest zephyr
Indeed
rapid umbra
as long as they stay in their lane and dont try to compete in bare knuckle they should be okay
artem sits on the throne there
celest zephyr
celest zephyr
giannis won mvp !!
celest zephyr
Well Deserved over Harden,
celest zephyr
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novel sedge
Yeah
rustic ore
LeBron is apparently giving up #23 to AD, RIP to anyone who has bought a LeBron Lakers jersey to this point
dry surge
they should do a free swap at NBA stores
celest zephyr
😬 loooool, they should but they won’t
rustic ore
Oh sweet Jeff, you overestimate the heads of the NBA so much as to do something that decent
rapid umbra
that should make the jersey more rare for collectors now tho
or to anyone in general espicially if he ends up creating a dynasty with the lakers
celest zephyr
one ring. :()
rapid umbra
what about one ring?
celest zephyr
I don’t see them winning more then one ring is what I was attempting to say
rustic ore
I don't see them winning any ring while LeBron is there
celest zephyr
woah that is harsh
honest umbra
i see them winning 3 straight rings
celest zephyr
very optimistic
rustic mountain
*foolish
rustic ore
I mean I think I'm just being realistic, say the Lakers get either Kemba or Kyrie...ok? They still run into the problem they had last year where they don't have anyone outside of LeBron who is consistent from the 3 point line
Besides the point imo that team will no longer go through LeBron, it's gonna go through and be catered around AD because A(the lack of shooters problem) and B(because he is significantly younger than LeBron, is gonna sign a super max, and is gonna be the face of that franchise going forward). Feel free to call this a hot take but right now I believe AD is the most important piece/player on that team right now.
honest umbra
ok
but u cant name any other team
whos gonna win lol
and they have 5 players on the roster rn
how do u know they dont have anyone consistent from the 3 point line rn
and currently, kawhi is a huge threat to sign with the lakers. not kemba or kyrie
this isnt a week ago rumors we're talking about, this is now
and that's a fine hot take but it doesn't take away from why they would win a championship lol
warriors are spilled, rockets cant even be in the same locker room, nuggets got taken out by the blazers who are still stuck in a cap prob where they cant sign anyone else (an extension of guards)
it literally hinges on kawhi and where he goes as being the only competitive or one of 2 competitive teams against the lakers
celest zephyr
The chances of Lakers winning this ring this year
are far higher then any other team
but depending on how the rest of free agency goes, we could see some other team become the top contender
oh btw Klay resigned with the Warriors, if he went to the Lakers they would have been practically unstoppable by the team he healed up
rustic ore
Kemba signing a max deal with Boston 👀 👀 👀 @rustic mountain
celest zephyr
bro im from la and i dont even wanna see kawhi to lakers
i think real niggas care about the clippers more tbh 😔
😬
rustic ore
I'm gonna be bold and say he signs a supermax to stay with the Raptors. Dude already is the most beloved figure in Canada for that title and he has a guy in Siakam who really shined down the stretch, those 2 could be a great 1-2 punch and honestly, they might just repeat as champions.
celest zephyr
It wouldn't make any sense to leave, he gets more money and he is practically worshipped by the Canadian fanbase
but logic does not apply here 
This is really cool btw. https://twitter.com/ringmagazine/status/1143648098427768832
celest zephyr
Holy fuck Ngannou got JDS in the 1st round badly
The one person who I was certain would push him to late rounds..
sweet tree
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The Nets were always the better option from the get-go. Warriors would've been my second guess.
They've rebuilt their brand so well ever since they moved from New Jersey
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Yeah, it's a large commitment, but one the Nets had to make.
They're dead last in attendance for the past three years.
rapid umbra
that's a little under a mil each week
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They needed this big splash to have the fans actually come to Barclays
Durant won't be able to play this upcoming season and won't be at 100% for his second season
It will essentially be Kyrie's team for the first year
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over six digits everyday into their bank account
of course they probably dont receive payment like that but it's essentially their daily wage
talking about durant but irving gets a lot also
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They're both max contracts
only Durant has more years of experience, so his maximum contract is larger than Kyrie's
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Max contracts are based on years of experience in the NBA
As a Knicks fan, the Durant signing doesn't really bother me because he was never a serious option for the Knicks
But, Kawhi going to the Lakers will actually piss me off
rapid umbra
if kawhi goes to the lakers that would be interesting
espicially with lebron there
they were talking about the lakers being able to build another dynasty earlier
i wonder if it has anything to do with him wanting to be closer to home
dry surge
that would most definitely NOT be interesting
he should stay in Toronto
I just very much dislike the way LBJ and his agent, Rich Paul are building the team in LA
Between Magic Johnson, Rob Pelinka, Jeanie Buss, they've basically been falling backwards in running the franchise properly
Yet they still get LBJ, and Rich Paul's other client, Anthony Davis, and now are rumored to be high on the list for Kawhi.
Usually mediocrity nets you nothing, like it does the Knicks
rapid umbra
id rather see him with the clippers but idk how much they would spend on him
warriors are starting to be broken up tho
which is about time for that to happen thankfully
i do like kawhi where he is at with the raptors now. they have a lot of balance on that team and players who are starting to showcase their skills more
dry surge
the clippers aren't as good of a situation for him than toronto
and his offensive fit on the lakers is bad
rapid umbra
that's why it would be weird to see how it pans out there
him and lebron usually like to handle the ball by themselves although kawhi started to assist and pass more in the finals
he has a big wingspan though and i think kawhi has decent defense but that's not what he is best used for
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kawhi has more than just decent defense
one of the best defenses in the league
but yes him and lebron occupy the same space on the floor
the fit is just so weird
celest zephyr
Wow this has to be the biggest fuck you to the knicks
People are forgetting that KD is 100% out for the whole season next year
celest zephyr
Well I mean in a fans perspective **
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knicks were never a real threat to sign him
celest zephyr
Obviously the Knicks organization were aware of what they could and couldn’t get
But the imagination of your average Knicks fan was wild
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the media generated the knicks rumors
celest zephyr
And it was all crushed within minutes of FA opening
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don't forget that windhorst, Woj, Marc Stein, Shams, Chris Haynes, Frank Isola, and more all started the rumors way earlier in the season
they said the Knicks were the biggest threat to sign Durant away
and most of the NBA fans around the league (even outside of Knicks fans) bought it
remember Stephen A Smith?
"95% Chance KD + Kyrie are going to the Knicks"
people ate that up
it gave Knicks fans false hopes, and gave non-Knicks fans ammunition to shoot at Knicks fans if it ended up being untrue
celest zephyr
Yeah.
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Most nonchalant-NBA fans are unaware of how rumors are spread
there's a good thread from an ex-NBA front office exec that explains it well
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(thread)
wish more casual fans were open to learning more about the FA process considering it's a major part of the sport, almost as big social-media-impact-wise as the actual NBA season itself
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Also: Milwaukee just traded Brogdon
I thought that the Bucks were on the right path and then this happens ...
celest zephyr
My eyes are glued on Kawahi's decison
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He should stay in TOT
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i mean
celest zephyr
but he has the right to leave
celest zephyr
and if he did team up with Lakers, you could consider them the next 'warriors'
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for the reasons i previously explained
they'd be nothing like the warriors other than they have 3 stars
rather, "bonafied" stars
the fit doesn't make sense
celest zephyr
instead of having an OP backcourt, they have an OP frontcourt
Ariza going to Sacramento Kings, damn
dry surge
the best way i like to describe the lakers acquisitions is the antithesis of the knicks: both franchises are fucking dumb and have been dumb for several years. they're both big market teams that have been failing considerably. only difference is, Rich Paul (LBJ's agent) is a lakers fan and constructed his dream team on his favorite team
magic johnson was a failure of a president, jeanie buss is making poor decisions, rob pelinka has no idea how to operate under the salary cap, yet here they are on the verge of getting another max player
Also, people don't really understand the impact of this Brogdon trade
Brogdon was 17th in the NBA in scoring efficiency out of 207 players. Highly underrated get, and a huge loss for the Bucks
celest zephyr
Dumb move by the Bucks def
dry surge
Also not really sure why people are bringing up "Knicks traded KP for cap space just to strike out in FA"
Knicks traded KP because he didn't want to stay in NY, and was unhappy there.
Was the FO supposed to extend a QO to a player that didn't want to stay?
At least they traded him and got back assets instead of just letting him walk for free in FA
(unlike another team COUGH COUGH charlotte COUGH COUGH)
celest zephyr
Smart move by Celtics to have Kemba come in the moment Kyrie left
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Kemba was smart to leave the Hornets
celest zephyr
Should have left sooner if you ask me, they failed to build anything around him
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The Hornets actually wanting Rozier is so bad
celest zephyr
Dame just got a fat contract as well, well deserved
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He was so inefficient throughout his time in BOS, and then his media tour complaining about not getting the PT that he wanted in Boston ... just so bad
and yeah Dame deserves it, but POR really needs to make more moves
They've been a fringe contender for so long, and haven't made anything out of it
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Marc Cuban really isn't that bright
How do you not have an injury clause?
KP has been injured for more than 20 games in every season he's played
This will definitely bite the Mavs in the back down the road.
Also, one caveat to KD going to Nets: if it means Dolan sells, it will be my dream come true
rapid umbra
did you guys watch the mavericks championship years ago where jason terry showed up to one of the games with "2011 champions" already tattooed on his bicep i think
dry surge
Yes, that was a great team
and a precursor to the present-day NBA
one of the first teams to embrace the 3-pt shot, especially in the playoffs
rapid umbra
he retired right?
celest zephyr
yes, heart breaking
especially the Wade and Dirk game
had me in tears
Rodney hood resigned with Blazers hmm
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Feel bad for Giannis
He deserves all the help he can get
Wes Edens and Marc Lasry have been skimping on paying the luxury tax for as long as they've owned the Bucks
If this is true, all the more reason to not be hopeful until he sells the team.
I have some doubts about the legitimacy of the report, though
celest zephyr
I hope that isn't true
that would be one of the most fucking ridiculous things to happen in the history of that franchise
which is saying something
dry surge
It wouldn't
A lot worse has happened
and to be fair, it it were true, it's not overall that bad of a take from JD, it's just the context.
Recovery from achilles is a meek outlook
celest zephyr
That kind of goes out the window when you are talking about the best scorer in the league
dry surge
People are fair to have doubts about how good he can be post-recovery
I mean it's easy to say
"But it's KD"
"KD is different"
"He's built for this"
celest zephyr
He is not built for it at all
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and other buzz words
celest zephyr
anyone who thinks that is delusional but with the horrible position the Knicks are in right now
they should be willing to take
those kinds of risks
*if the report is true
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No, I never said you don't give him the max because of his injury, i'm just saying you take his injury into account
which is a fair thing to do
Also remember the thread i posted a bit back?
About agents leaking things?
This could very easily be a leak to muddy the waters
KD never met with the Knicks
The rumor (which was spread by the media ... again), was that KD was going to meet with the Knicks, Nets, Clippers, and Warriors once FA began
He already made his decision LONG before that rumor ever got out about the meetings
he never conversed with the Knicks, so how would media get wind of any contract offers from the Knicks if they never actually made an offer to him?
celest zephyr
The Warriors were supposedly out of the question right after his injury
which makes sense
dry surge
Chances are, it's a manufactured leak from a 3rd party, but if it's not, then it's a dumb thing to do
There certainly have been worse things the Knicks and other franchises have done in regards to player contracts
celest zephyr
Jim 
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Randle to the Knicks
3/63 is great for Randle
Putting him alongside Mitchell Robinson is about as good of a fit as you can ask for
celest zephyr
it is
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21 PPG, 8 RBG, 3 APG
improved 3-PT shooting
great post passer
will open up lanes for DSJ/RJ
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Team option?
Amazing
Preserves flexibility in the near future while also building up a good young core
... and it begins
majority of tri-state area are Knicks fans
the city is a Knicks town
Hope it doesn't leave a bad taste in Kyrie and KD's mouth when they arrive
celest zephyr
they are 2 players that can be emotional about their environments
dry surge
Which is why I never understood the appeal with the Nets, unless they learn to completely block out the noise
celest zephyr
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Yeah, his whole schtick is people enjoy watching him cry and be depressed and complain with his brazen stupidity and offer hot takes
And he considers himself a "Knicks fan"
sureeeeeeeeeeee ... after tricking a large portion of the Knicks fanbase as well as the rest of the NBA's fanbase into thinking "KD + Kyrie to the Knicks is a 95% lock"
celest zephyr
loooooooooooooool he was right about one thing
KD and Kyrie did head to New York
dry surge
Is Brooklyn even considered new york anymore?
I've lived in Brooklyn for 3 years
actually i've lived in all 4 boroughs (SI doesn't count as a borough)
and it's nothing like how Brooklyn used to be
shame
celest zephyr
Staten island isnt a borough?
dry surge
it is but we meme it's not one
celest zephyr
oh I see
dry surge
does it really count as a borough if we have to take a fucking boat to get there?
foh
but yeah, BK got gentrified so heavily
ya hate to see it
celest zephyr
rip
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celest zephyr
The Net's fanbase 🙏
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went to see Nets - Lakers last season with a few of my friends from high school
arena was near empty
most folks were on their phone watching LBJ run circles around their D
celest zephyr
damn, that is a shame
dry surge
kinda embarrassing for a basketball town
celest zephyr
Brookyln is also the biggest of the 4 boroughs right?
dry surge
define biggest
by population, it's brooklyn
followed by manhattan
then queens
nvm switch the last two
brooklyn, queens, manhattan, BX, SI
dry surge
i'm aware of what he's "said"
point is, he spread an unsubstantiated rumor about KD + Kyrie going to the knicks months earlier, and as a result, he's only put himself and the franchise, and the fandom up in the center of the proverbial town square for the rest of the townsfolk to throw tomatoes at
stephen a: the knicks need someone to save their franchise!
stephen a: "y'all KD and Kyrie are going to the knicks, 95% done!"
*KD + kyrie don't go to the knicks"
stephen a: omg! wtf! 
rapid umbra
lol i want to know what his supposed source was
probably made it up
he probably did it for the attention
needs his views most likely
dry surge
no one will ever know for sure, but most likely is an agent/league exec made a guess, and Stephen A just ran with the guess as a fact
rapid umbra
controversy is something the media thrives off of this isn't the first time he's been in a position like this but it has been happening a lot more lately
he was stirring the pot in boxing a month ago
dry surge
yeah, the league is a very public soap opera
a lot of the drama is just manufactured to get clicks
rapid umbra
yea i usually don't believe any of the rumors until i see pen on paper
kawhi may end up with the lakers or he may not. next week you could see him negotiating with someone else
crazier things have happened before
i dont know how far he is with signing anything right now it's just in the headlines that the lakers are at the top of the list for him to go right now
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hate to say i told y'all but
i told y'all
Not only is this disrespectful as hell to the players who work their ass off to put themselves in a position to get paid, but the players Nichols listed: "George Hill, Reggie Bullock, Bobby Portis, etc." are all either young talents/good vets to bring in on one to two year deals to help mentor your young guys/start winning a few games
rustic ore
Holy shit dude, Tobias Harris got a max deal from Philly?
dry surge
Not a max deal
People praising Philly, but I just see a logjam at the 4/5 filled with non-shooters and poor spacing
No wing initiation at all or any sort of attack scheme from the top of the key
Ben Simmons is not a shooter AT ALL, so the least you could do to maximize his playstyle is to open driving lanes by signing/trading for shooters to open the court.
rustic ore
But 5 years and 180 million for Tobias Harris of all people? Dude was on my Magic and I can guarantee you he ain't worth anywhere near that
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Instead, they go for a Horford/Embiid pairing, who by the way occupy the same space in the paint, which just makes life even more difficult for Simmons
rustic ore
rustic ore
Still funny though, cause that's a mood meme if I've ever seen it
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just as a general aside, it was national media outlets that got everyone's hopes up (both Knicks fans & NBA fandom in general) with shit like this: https://twitter.com/espn/status/1095178201725325313
(From February 11th)
celest zephyr
Yeah, Haaris was not worth the contract that he got
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Media: YOOOOOOO IMAGINE IF KD AND KYRIE AND ZION WERE ON THE KNICKS, THAT WOULD BE CRAZY photoshops jerseys on to their bodies
Knicks: don't get any of them
Media: HAHAHAHA LOOK AT THESE SAD FUCKS THEY DIDN'T GET ANY OF THE PEOPLE THEY WANTED. WHO TOLD THEM THEY COULD GET ZION, KD AND KYRIE 😂 😂
rustic ore
I can't think of any major player who would actually want to play for the Knicks right now tbh, that's not taking a pot shot at Knicks fans mind you it's just that James Dolan might be the worst owner in sports
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Yeah he's the worst owner in sports, but the Knicks do have abundant cap space, a good market, a good coach, a good core of youth, but they're just unproven.
Lots of FA are prioritizing winning over getting paid, and that's completely understandable.
Mind you,
Knicks Front Office NEVER said that they are solely big name FA hunting.
Anyone that tells you otherwise just bought into what the media has been serving up.
Scott Perry's comments:
They've repeated this about a dozen times in every interview they've ever done about the impending summer/FA "chase"
rustic ore
If it makes you feel any better the highlight of my team's offseason (outside of resigning our bigger name FAs) seems to be signing Al-Farouq Aminu 🤷
dry surge
I mean, this is what I expected from the start
expectations were to keep the youth movement, sign vets to moveable deals with team options
celest zephyr
rustic ore
I still have no idea how or why that song/OP has been meme'd to hell.
celest zephyr
i think it originated with the filthy frank op
celest zephyr
Why the fuck are the warriors about to get diangelo russel?
celest zephyr
no I mean, how the fuck did that happen*?
I wasn’t aware teams are able to trade super max contracts
celest zephyr
Got it just in the Knick of time...
honest umbra
celest zephyr
https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/1145573120058654720 you must be in a good mood
celest zephyr
Blazers picked up Whiteside
celest zephyr
they lost Kanter but replaced him by someone who I think is overall a far better player
gusty kayak
@tired vault you going to silverstone?
austrian race was so good max killed it in last laps
tired vault
Still backing lando to be winning races in 2021
gusty kayak
would be hype to see another team being able to win races hopefully 2021 new rules help
or maybe he wins in a diff car
but mclaren really stepping up
celest zephyr
Still no Kawhi news, maybe a possible return to Toronto? 🙏
rustic ore
I would say it would be the smartest move
He easily is the most beloved athlete in Canada after winning them their first basketball championship ever
celest zephyr
The sabotage conspiracy
celest zephyr
I don't keep up with American football but regardless that is devastating
dusky sluice
Depressing :/
You can’t let things that can be taken away from you define who you are.
sweet tree
that's heartbreaking man
rapid umbra
what if this ends up becoming one of those come back stories where he ends up being the first DT in the NFL with an amputated arm?
he's still young though
has a lot of living ahead of him whatever he decides to do
rustic ore
@rapid umbra I promise you I'm not trying to be a dick in any way when I say this so please forgive me if you feel an insulting tone because that's not my intent, but I'm gonna assume you don't watch American football if you think there is any chance of a defensive lineman being able to play professionally with only 1 arm.
celest zephyr
It was nice of Dana White to give Nick Newell a chance in his contender series
sweet tree
any sport really, being handicapped already puts you at an disadvantage. Luckily there's some sports out there for the handicapped athletes
celest zephyr
especially with the criticism he was receiving for even letting an amputee compete in the UFC
rustic ore
Newell actually has a half decent record, 15-3 isn't anything to scoff at
celest zephyr
15-2*
His only loses are Gaethje in WSOF, when he was 11-0 and Gaethje was practically an unstoppable champion
and the Munoz dude in Dana's contender series
TBH, haven't heard from that dude since he beat Newell
rustic ore
Ah my b
celest zephyr
celest zephyr
yall see this?
also earthquake went crazy today
it was 7.1 in the epicenter but only 4.0 around me
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as a fan of the league, i preferred this alternative much more than Kawhi going to the lakers
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battle for los angeles
gonna be fun
bit bummed he didn't resign with the raps
was a good story
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the league is rough when it wants to be
feel bad for sam presti
retooling after harden + kd left is difficult and he tried his best
honest umbra
bruh two stars in their prime left westbrook
for teams in california
to join better superteams lmao
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why are people like this
that's a fucking defensive squad
pat bev, paul george, and kawhi?
💀
honest umbra
when the whole world is centered around california
sweet tree
WOW
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they'll need as much perimter shooting as they can get
proud coyote
crazy crazy play
im so happy
found this gem in the lakers subreddit lmfao
"john wall maybe"
honest umbra
some lakers fans are dumb
please know they do not represent all of us
if we're gonna go after a wizard
why would it ever be john wall
and who exactly do we have to trade?
pick up danny green
somehow get iggy, avery bradley, cousins
proud coyote
the wizards would just hand you him lol
but yeah, there is stupid fans in every fanbase
there is just a lot more stupid lakers fans cause there is a LOT of lakers fans
proud coyote
nah, they got a HUGE haul
id be happy if I was an okc fan tbh
only thing id be sad about is russel's contract on an otherwise horrible team
celest zephyr
Record setting right? Regardless no OKC fan is going to realize that in the moment
Still, didn’t see this at all
A shame he didn’t stay in Toronto
But I can’t be mad, he literally carried us to a ring
proud coyote
im happy about this outcome even though im a blazers fan
purely because I love seeing laker fans have pain
these past 7 years have been a joy
gusty kayak
Danny green is a boxer @honest umbra
celest zephyr
Oh right, we just lost Green too
He went to the Lakers.. 
Miscommunication?
Next season is definitely going to be the most competitive one in a long ass time
OKC are basically getting the Clippers next 6 1st round picks 😂
rustic ore
Holy shit dude, The Clips just went from an above average team to the favs in the West, GG
celest zephyr
It’s going to be an interesting season
celest zephyr
Smh it’s like putting the all defensive lineup on one team
honest umbra
just got boogie @dry surge
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not a good fit imo
need as much defense as you can to supplement LBJ
spacing will be iffy as well if he starts
honest umbra
on the mle?
dry surge
he'll have to come off the bench
honest umbra
how can he hurt?
dry surge
i mean you can want maximize your investments
honest umbra
if he plays 50 percent of the level he played at 2 years ago
its a really good investment
dry surge
you can get boogie and say "ah it was just for the mle it'll be fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine"
or you can use mle money to get someone that maximizes the talents of the other people on the roster
honest umbra
plus getting cousins means another team doesnt get to have cousins
when there's only such a small market out for them
there isn't a lot of people left out there
dry surge
hey i mean as long as you're happy
honest umbra
and we still have a few million
after getting quin cook as well
@dry surge just got rondo
now we have a pg
dry surge
really don't like that move at all
honest umbra
and why is that?
dry surge
poor spacing
lebron is getting most of his minutes at point forward
having rondo play off the ball is asking for trouble
honest umbra
who did you want running point?
dry surge
seth curry was very available earlier on
honest umbra
he's not a creator
dry surge
you don't need one when you have lebron
honest umbra
lebrons 40
dry surge
his ability is maximized when he's running the point
honest umbra
rondo was imo generally one of the top players on the lakers last season
dry surge
create at top of the key
honest umbra
and that was because of his ability to maximize other players
look at rondo in 2017 with boogie and ad
he absolutely went off
honest umbra
and now on top of that, he has lebron as well
i'm not saying lebron wont run point
but there will be times where rondo will geninuely be needed
and when lebrons maining the half court
quinn cook will sub in
for his shooting/driving
dry surge
40% FG, 46 eFG%, -0.2 OWS, 1.5 DWS, 22.1% TOV, 12.1 PER
that just screams inefficiency
honest umbra
is that rondo 2017?
dry surge
that's rondo now
honest umbra
oh lol
i think hes more a player thats impactful during a game
than a stat sheet
but I feel like we've had this convo b4
dry surge
well your impact on the court is shown through the stat sheet
honest umbra
i disagree
honest umbra
i disregard it in every sport I watch
dry surge
very common for sports fans to disregard it and administer eye-tests***
honest umbra
and hence why I believe it
the concept of +/- being used to evaluate a player is such a sham considering there are situation where players step in 'midst of runs' and what-not, and get docked for it
dry surge
i'm not using +/-
honest umbra
no, i'm just giving my piece on why stats suck
dry surge
well that's one statistic, and not even an advanced one
honest umbra
and rondo's never been an amazing shooter, everyone been known that
no one picks him up to shoot the ball
dry surge
Twitter
hopefully this is the last of his injuries for his rookie year
he's not in good shape right now, and i'm praying it doesn't impact his joints
celest zephyr
bro im so confused
why is cousins back with ad
Lakers had no choice
Kawahi played them like a fiddle and they had to pick up the next big thing
Now, where Westbrook lands is what I am paying attention to
rustic ore
@honest umbra You okay man? Hearing Cali has been getting pounded.
sweet tree
oops
celest zephyr
?
celest zephyr
Insane UFC card tonight, anyone checking it out
rustic ore
I will after the sub for tonight's OP episode is finished
celest zephyr
main card begins when the episode drops on CR
first fight is meh, so nothing to worry about missing
rustic ore
So final guess for the main card: Both champs retain, Askren continues his undefeated streak, Rockhold loses his LHW debut, and Diego beats Chiesa
celest zephyr
I have Rockhold winning his debut but I can agree with the rest
rustic ore
Man that was depressing to see, Chiesa just bodied Diego
rapid umbra
Diego should probably get into coaching or do something else
he had a good run and def going in the hall of fame
i just dont think the risk/reward ratio for him fighting at this point is good
rapid umbra
why did they say jan got revenge? did they fight before or was it because luke was trash talking before the fight
rapid umbra
watch santos catch jon jones 
there has been a lot of upsets lately
boxing and mma lol
rustic ore
I might shit myself laughing if Bones finally loses
rapid umbra
masvidal vs askren
rustic ore
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!1
celest zephyr
WAHT THE FUCK WAS THAT
rustic ore
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?!?!?!
celest zephyr
that was perfect
what the fuck
that was amazing
holy fuck
that is the greatest KO in fucking the UFC this year
by fucking a mile
this proves the difference between Khabib and Askren by a mile
rustic ore
Dude you gotta give Jorge the first shot at the winner of Khabib vs DP
celest zephyr
in an MMA fight, I am well aware
Askren is a far better wrestler
man this guy
can barely walk out of the octagon
that was brutal
rustic ore
That dude has a concussion, no doubt
celest zephyr
No, I just mean fight IQ
Khabib has fought 12 times in the UFC and has never been caught going in
Askren, twice and both times badly
their fight approach and fight IQ are miles apart
celest zephyr
Oh.
rustic ore
Ah my b
celest zephyr
Khabib refuses to move up to welterweight but is open to 165
rustic ore
Then give him the next shot after whoever is taking on Usman next
celest zephyr
We still have 2 more fights, both one-sided I believe
rapid umbra
colby vs usman needs to hurry up and happen
rustic ore
^
celest zephyr
I see Usman beating Masvidal with ease
rustic ore
Which is fine, I just want to see the fight
celest zephyr
only because Usman grinds through the clinch
rapid umbra
yea i think colby gives usman a better fight
askren just made masvidal look like a champ
celest zephyr
Colby is good in the clinch, which is why it will be an interesting fight
Usman begins a majority of his takedowns through the clinch
rustic ore
Yo Nunes is about to kill this girl
rustic ore
I'm happy to be proven wrong but it's gonna happen
celest zephyr
I see this completely one sided for Nunes
I have no fucking idea
how Holly Holm continues to get title shots
rustic ore
Cause the Women's Bantamweight division is shit
celest zephyr
She is like 2-4 in the last 6
rustic ore
There's Nunes and that's it
rapid umbra
holly is going to need to keep it on the outside with her kicks and reach
rustic ore
To bad for her Nunes is aggressive af
celest zephyr
She is an amazing boxer but Nunes is a crazy inside striker
and has brutal power
Even taking out Cyborg who I can argue is a man
rustic ore
I'm getting this impending feeling of doom leading up to this fight, I honestly feel a bit bad for Holly
Like I'm honestly not trying to sound cocking or diminish the work she's put in to get her, but there are levels to this shit and she just isn't on Amanda's at all.
celest zephyr
Well, who knows punchers luck is something that has the most presence in MMA
things like the Masvidal thing could happen, I can put my house on the fact that if his flying knee didn't connect Askren most likely would have ripped him apart slowly
celest zephyr
Holy Holm usually always has the striking range advantage but she matches with Nunes 
woah
celest zephyr
She is, this just showcases how big Nunes is
crazy punching power
as well
Holy Holm doing her iconic nervous pace back and forth
rapid umbra
holly is taller
celest zephyr
Holy Holm did take Cyborg to 5 rounds though, so she does have a chin
celest zephyr
but this is Nunes
rapid umbra
o
celest zephyr
DAMN
CRAZY
almost got her the first time, and got it the 2nd time
Continuing to cement herself as the GOAT
rustic ore
Ball game
celest zephyr
Still got the Jon Jones fight, almost certainly an easy win for Jones
but Santos has that one punch KO power
celest zephyr
Yeah
Amanda Nunes could literally hold all 3 belts
Considering the fact that the Flyweight champ has been beaten by Nunes arguably twice
celest zephyr
insane power and high iq brawling
rapid umbra
going to need to find someone on a high lvl to beat her
celest zephyr
Funny too
rustic ore
Yeah but Amanda is the women's MMA GOAT, there is no argument
rustic ore
I really hope they bring real talent in to challenge her before she gets turned into the Ronda
celest zephyr
Amanda holds it by a mile
rustic ore
And people try to hold the lack of legit threats in the division against her
celest zephyr
A cyborg rematch
rustic ore
I mean I'd be down but I don't know if Cyborg is ready
celest zephyr
She has another fight scheduled
forget when it is, but if she gets past that
they should do the rematch
can't wait for the Khabib fight
Oh wow, they just announced Edson Barboza vs Paul Felder is the co-main for UFC 242...
Meaning its going to be a horrible card
https://gfycat.com/educatedfriendlybrownbutterfly The Full Fight
Jon Jones looking fried as usual
rapid umbra
if you fight a technical war against jones he usually gets the better
celest zephyr
Yeah, but Jones should adapt pretty quickly
rapid umbra
its like what they say in boxing "dont box him, fight him"
celest zephyr
he usually does
rapid umbra
but in mma dont be as technical just brawl
rustic ore
Yeah, plus his endurance is insane
celest zephyr
btw Jones coach is so optimistic and calm
oh shit
that was crazy
Santos can throw bombs
Santos hurt his own leg and Jon noticed it, its over
rustic ore
Yeah Santos is definitely hurt
I will however give R2 to Santos so 2-0 him right now
But the writing should be on the wall right now, unless Santos gets the KO this will end soon
celest zephyr
The knee is becoming gradually more obvious
if it actually is a torn ACL, the way he moves is impressive
oh shit
LOL Jones saw the Masvidal fight
Jones toying with him..
celest zephyr
yh
rustic ore
I appreciate the heart from Santos but Bones took that round, I have 2-1 Santos as of now by that knee can only get worse
celest zephyr
wow
Santos
is still going wild
crazy
even on that knee, this guy def deserves #2
2-2
rapid umbra
you thought santos won 4th?
celest zephyr
no, Santos won first 2
rustic ore
I have a 2-2 tie
celest zephyr
only because he was the aggressor and landed more
rapid umbra
i say 3-1, maybe 2-2
rapid umbra
jones was the agressor at the start but santos was countering okay
by aggressor i mean walking him down
celest zephyr
Yeah
If Jon didn't have a brick chin, Santos might have taken the person in front of him out even with that injury
damn Santos buckling a lot now
rapid umbra
santos looking like "why you gotta kick me there man"
celest zephyr
3-2 jones
Jones is a moron for even letting Santos get away with 2
and maybe even the 5th
rapid umbra
santos a warrior
celest zephyr
yh
rustic ore
I'll go 3-2 Jones as well
rapid umbra
he was a paratrooper
celest zephyr
and he fought for 3 more rounds with Jon Jones..
impressive
Imagine if they scored in Santos's favor
rustic ore
GG to him, I'd love to see a rematch when he gets healthy
rustic ore
I can dig it
celest zephyr
yea
rustic ore
Santos gave his heart out there, mad respect to him
celest zephyr
damn Jon had a poker face, looks like his leg did get it
rustic ore
Oof, his left leg is swollen like a motherfucker
celest zephyr
https://twitter.com/DovySimuMMA/status/1147711661610082304 wow he did askren dirty
rustic ore
Like I can appreciate feeling yourself but there isn't any need to be such a massive cunt after you've won
Show some damn humility and move on
rapid umbra
yea i cant tell if he really felt that way or if he was trying to get publicity
and if it was for publicity, was it was really worth acting like that
i dont think he is getting mcgregor publicity over something like that
i mean doing what he did alone made a statement, i didnt really care for that little charade at the end
he has the fastest ufc knockout now i think
i want to see usman vs colby
then winner vs jorge
and if leon edwards keeps doing well then jorge vs leon
all the fighters who lost or got tko'd tonight are happy that ben took all the attention off them
honest umbra
WHAT IT DO BAYBEEEEEEEEE
bitter rover
It depends on colby vs lawler
I dont think lawler wants to lose three times in a row
Expecting a monster coming back for colby
celest zephyr
Yeah, I still see Colby winning because he has the fight iq to prepare for any situation
rapid umbra
yea they put up the picture of tyron woodley with his hand raised after becoming the champion by beating lawler lol
celest zephyr
lol
rapid umbra
they enlarged it and posted it in their gym or something but that's what gyms usually do when they get a new champion
a bit awkward in this case tho
celest zephyr
I love this youtube channel's documentarys and commentarys
happy to see them back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbUfIqOZfV8
remote sparrow
adesanya vs whittaker is gonna slap
i wanna see if adesanya can hold up against someone of that quality
the gastelum fight was 😩 🍆 💦
celest zephyr
Yeah it is going to be a great fight but I am honestly frustrated with Whittaker
I understand how difficult it is to prepare for a fight and that I couldn't even fathom the grinding needed to even get there but he has pulled out numerous times and has almost had that division on the same pace as Conor did with LW
bitter rover
I agree
I like bobby knuckles but
I think he would get stripped of he pulls out of next fight
celest zephyr
100%
silk notch
let's go Algeria
celest zephyr
Russ to Houston 
dry surge
daryl morey got packing peanuts for a brain
celest zephyr
Such a horrible trade for the Rockets
rustic ore
Lol, trying to remake the old Thunder I see
rustic mountain
The Thunder had KD, Westbrook, and Harden (though pre all star Harden)
And no titles
Damn son
celest zephyr
Federer! 
celest zephyr
yeah Rockets aren't going far with that system
celest zephyr
celest zephyr
Horrible UFC card tonight but I am excited to see Faber fight again.
I don't any reason that he should be fighting but I guess he loves the sport
bitter rover
The american vs the chinese was alright
Ryan hall is interesting to watch
I want to see him vs zabit
Josh emmet vs bektic is a really good fight
I hope at least
Karl roberson is a KO machine, so itll be fun to see his fight
Marvin vettoris first fight since his split decision lost to adesanya I think
celest zephyr
a shame about the main event
I had ledd becoming the next superstar
but she was just riding the undefeated wave, so that loss can be very devastating unless she proves herself again
bitter rover
Yeah
Ladd is quite young too right? So i bet she has a strong chin and would probably survive
Happy gor urijah tho, that stoppade was less questionable
dim ledge
Griezmann 
tidal storm
Djokovic vs Federer was amazing
timid thorn
Neymar sad
celest zephyr
Smh I thought Real Madrid was going to win the transfer window
But man Barca pulled it off
dim ledge
All that's left is the Neymar transfer and the De Ligt transfer (who isn't travelling with Ajax btw👀)
Hoping Liverpool make a signing or two. Would love an attacking mid to hold us together, let firmino press up even higher, or at least relieve him
Hoping some of the boys in preseason make it into the squad, even if it's just bench (especially Harry Wilson and Brewster)
celest zephyr
I don’t know about de ligt
But if Neymar returns to PSG, I see them winning the treble next season
tidal storm
I would really hope for stan kroenke to fuck off my club rn 🤦
little to no investment on the club, he just doesn't care about arsenal.
celest zephyr
What's peoples opinion on griezmanns transfer to Barcelona?
rustic ore
@rustic mountain https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2843932-ben-simmons-76ers-agree-on-5-year-170m-max-contract-extension
celest zephyr
It’s a good move for Barca
They have been failing for too long and need a solid 2nd striker
rustic mountain
@rustic ore 
mild hamlet
dim ledge
If you want me to be realistic I don't like it
I don't want to offend you but I don't care whatsoever about Barcelona regardless of how much I respect them; but I do care alot about the French national team
So after the whole Griezmann fiasco last year, with the whole TV episode dedicated to him just to say he was staying at atleti, to mean nothing now, is poncy and pointless to me
So to reiterate my stance: that's fine if it's good for Barcelona. I hope it works out. But I still think grizou is a bit of a dick for it.
I also really like simeone so im biased though
I'm just curious as to what's happening with them as a club. If they get Neymar and Coutinho leaves, that's still alot of attacking players. Is Suarez/Dembele also leaving? Idk man
I'm more concerned with where Mbappe is going
celest zephyr
Lol
silk notch
@dim ledge. no they would just rotate
dim ledge
@silk notch rotating out attackers of that capacity never works for more than a year.
Mahrez wants to leave city already and acceptably so because he should be starting; imagine having to choose that many people
dusk quest
We need Neymar or firpo in Barca
dim ledge
Nah you guys need fullbacks
Never found a full replacement for Dani Alves considering all he can do
And Jordi Alba is an old man
celest zephyr
algeria is going to win
celest zephyr
honest umbra
algeria did win..
on possibly the biggest deflection
i have ever seen in my life
congrats though
dapper swallow
Why couldn’t they just move Messi to the wing
And then have Messi and Ney as wingers and Griezmann as their striker
And Suarez off the bench
He’s old anyways
Plus no guarantee of Griezman being successful
tidal storm
I find it difficult seeing Neymar re-join barcelona due to his big expensive fee. 100 M + 2 extra players is too good of an offer. It really would be a waste if barca somehow place in Dembele in the transfer.
If he does join I assume coutinho is 100% gone and whoever else being rakitic or dembele?
spring slate
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah algeria diiiiid it
celest zephyr
Yeah they are offering multiple players and a huge transfer fee
They are basically offering the 2 players they got with Neymar’s transfer fee
hidden rampart
Imagine walking down a dark alleyway and hearing the Kawhi laugh
rustic ore
A ha, A ha, A ha
honest umbra
why am I walking down a dark alleyway
celest zephyr
Missed tonight’s UFC event, anyone here watch it?
celest zephyr
I see, let me know how it goes
gusty kayak
Pacq doing a shuffle 
rapid umbra
yea he started pummeling the other guy on the ground and all the other guy did was hold onto his leg so the ref called it
it was a good call tho tbh he was told to do something for over 5 seconds and all he did was keep hugging greg's leg
celest zephyr
Interesting, I would assume that other dude had some sort of wrestling or jiujutsu arsenal to deal with Greg's very simple mount
rapid umbra
yea idk what happened
greg was landing bombs tho
you couldnt tell at the time but when the other guy stood up his face was busted up a bit
honest umbra
how was that
split wtf
lol
it was 115-112 for 2 judges
and some 🤡 be like 114-113
no joke, thurman fought hella well
and landed a decent amount of his shit
celest zephyr
Manny dominated?
honest umbra
he wasnt pushing enough though lol, would land a few and manny would come right back
i think to say he dominated would be insulting to thurman
because i aint gonna lie, thurman fought well
but it was unanimous enough
and def not 114-113 for whatever that judge was smoking lol
not like it matters, thurman undefeated no more
manny still collecting bodies at 40