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celest zephyr
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RAPTORS WON

night dagger
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lowry cuddling with curry

celest zephyr
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they got a technical

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yikes

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that means

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raptors free throw

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and they get possession

night dagger
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im waiting till its over

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to know its over

celest zephyr
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horrible in bound pass

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I can sadly say that

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this game would have been a lot different

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with Klay in

night dagger
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with KD & Klay

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just Klay

celest zephyr
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Its over man

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I cant fucking believe it

night dagger
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its about to go down

celest zephyr
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Raptors!!

night dagger
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wow

celest zephyr
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lmao kawhi

night dagger
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what the fuck

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a foul

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what is this

celest zephyr
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yeah its over

night dagger
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lmao leonard mad

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that was intense

celest zephyr
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fuck man!!!! so happy

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gasol got a ring wow

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lowry got a ring

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why does FVV look his grandmother just died?

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he won a fucking ring

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Ibaka too

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nice

night dagger
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hahaha

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Kawhi's still trying to get his

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this is pride

celest zephyr
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shame what happened to klay and KD tho

rapid umbra
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gg

night dagger
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man imagine if the warriors turned it around because of that foul

celest zephyr
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I could confidently say that we wouldn't be here celebrating with them around

rapid umbra
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did you guys see drake on the couch onstage?

celest zephyr
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but damnnnn

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lmao kawhi expression to winning

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FUCKKKK

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wouldn't expect less from #2

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The robot has entered

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celebration phase

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šŸ¤–

night dagger
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Vanvleet was beautiful

celest zephyr
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that building going down just like the team rip

night dagger
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its cool that a championship was won there before it went down

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even if it wasn't its team

celest zephyr
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well I can hear the fireworks outside already..

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take that skip bayless

rapid umbra
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finally a new team lol

hidden geode
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HELLO

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YAY

rapid umbra
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first championship for torranto raptors

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badass

hidden geode
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Congratulations!!!!!!

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So HAPPY and PROUD

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Such a close game

celest zephyr
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kawhi should be finals mvp no questions asked

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yeah no contest there

rapid umbra
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nah jeremy lin should be mvp

celest zephyr
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wow.

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I just realized

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Jeremy lin has a ring

rapid umbra
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is he any good? he didnt really play a whole lot these series

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i heard a lot about him a couple years ago

celest zephyr
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He barely played

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like 3 minutes

hollow mulch
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So glad raptors one

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I would’ve cried if Gs won

rapid umbra
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danny green low key mvp for injuring klay

sweet tree
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LET'S gooo

rapid umbra
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they should have a "low key mvp" award

celest zephyr
rapid umbra
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perfect time to visit canada

night dagger
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just toronto really

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i dont think the rest of Canada pays attention that much. Same goes with Baseball

rapid umbra
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maybe Ontario will make a team soon

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bbl

celest zephyr
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lol.

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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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DUB HOURS

hidden rampart
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Returning from the Raptors' historic victory, Kawhi Leonard opens the fridge and considers its contents carefully before deciding on the leftover lo mein. He settles in on the couch and resumes the episode of "How It's Made" he was watching before he left for the arena. He smiles and chuckles to himself. "So that's how they make shoelaces."

celest zephyr
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Congrats to both the Blues and Raptors on winning their 1st title.

celest zephyr
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top tier

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kawahi fanfic

night dagger
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downtown toronto is just people screaming and honking right now

river cradle
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Wouldnt expect lessUruthless

rustic ore
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Did the Raptors finally seal the deal?

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If so thank fuck

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Finally that GS Dynasty can die

rapid umbra
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was the klaw the spur's #1 player when he was with them or was he still developing?

rustic ore
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He was

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#1 I mean

rapid umbra
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thx

celest zephyr
rapid umbra
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yea if you go back and watch the replay im not surprised

rustic ore
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Damn, big RIP to him but again. Dynasty is over

celest zephyr
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sucks for them

rapid umbra
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more people will start watching nba again

rustic ore
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^

rustic ore
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RIP to the Broncos owner Pat Bowlen, wouldn't wish Alzheimers or Dementia on anyone šŸ˜”

celest zephyr
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Last night was intense holy fuck

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But damn I just saw the article

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Klay tore his ACL

rustic ore
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Sucks that Klay and KD are gonna miss all of the 2019-20 season but shit happens

celest zephyr
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I see both of them coming back during the 3rd quarter of the season but this changes a lot

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When it comes to free agency

rustic ore
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Dude it's June, they both just got injuries that take about a year to heal fully. The only way they'd come back is to play in the Finals

celest zephyr
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Certainly KD

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but Klay will most likely only take 8-9 months

celest zephyr
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kawhi literally killed the warriors

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sweatlava We did have some luck on our side

celest zephyr
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I don't usually watch Bellator cards but today's card is pretty good

rapid umbra
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main event coming up

bitter rover
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I dunno how to watch bellator šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø i would if i could lol

rustic ore
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@bitter rover I know a site to watch free livestreams of it if you want

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Only annoying thing is you will need your pop up/adblocker on cause it has a decent amount of annoying ones

bitter rover
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Ahh yeah, i dont watch the shows the live tho because of the timezone

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Thanks anyway

celest zephyr
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ad trade crazy

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rip zo

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if we get kawhi its over ☠

rustic ore
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Let the NYK salt mines flow, the fact the Lakers got what they wanted is hilarious. Now watch them screw up and not make the playoffs again LUL

rapid umbra
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fury fight tonight

celest zephyr
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Yeah I will probably watch it

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But also regarding the LA trade

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I don’t know how I feel about it

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Oh and lakers lost a bunch of picks

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Lonzo was their best dimer and Ingram wasn’t exactly consistent but he did show up when needed of him

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At least they didn’t lose

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Kuzma, who was IMO the 2nd best laker after Lebron

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Josh Hart isn’t a loss at all IMO

rustic ore
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Lakers screwed themselves imo, you gave up the everything and the kitchen sink for a dude who was going to come to you next summer anyways

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Guess they just didn't want to waste another year of LeBron's career 🤷

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Though to be fair even with AD they ain't doing much this year anyways LUL

celest zephyr
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I mean with KD and Klay out next year

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The west has been completely blown open

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Guess they want to push for one ring before Warriors return šŸ˜‚

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Supposedly they are targeting Kemba Walker now

rustic ore
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I don't see him not taking a supermax with Cha

celest zephyr
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He would be a nice addition but it isn’t worth half the organization šŸ˜‚

rustic ore
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Even though they're bad that would be a lot of money to leave on the table just to be a third wheel to the LBJ and AD

celest zephyr
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Maybe but I genuinely think he is sick of money and wants success

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He just had his best season IMO and they didn’t make playoffs

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I think he could play a far bigger role then AD

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That is if Lebron let’s him take as many shots as he does now šŸ˜‚

rustic ore
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Yeah but he just made an All-NBA team so that just made him eligible for a supermax, on that note big RIP to KAT for losing out on 32 million for not making it LUL

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They seriously gotta change that format imo, give me the best players regardless of position making All-NBA so that dudes like KAT don't get shafted out of big bucks they rightfully earned

celest zephyr
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Klay also loses his supermax

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He is signing regardless but Warriors get some extra money to make a few moves

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Yeah the format is odd

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I literally just found out it about it when that reaction video came out of Klay

celest zephyr
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AD to LA, I'm hype

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😰

rustic ore
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Yo I don't even know why Pels fans are salty right now, I'm on a fan site for them telling one dude to politely telling a dude to chill with saying stuff like "Fuck AD" and I apparently triggered some dudes LUL

celest zephyr
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Zion actually seems to have something being built around him

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A lot of people thought Zion would be a real waste at Pelicans considering they weren't able to do anything interesting with AD

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Aside from Cousins..

celest zephyr
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now they have zion and the #1 player in the nba

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zo šŸ˜Ž

rustic ore
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They also got LaVar ussoHAHchi

celest zephyr
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Lavar just confirmed that lakers will never win a ring OK

celest zephyr
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Fury fucked him, was faster then expected

rustic ore
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I demand Tyson Fury gets a rematch against Wilder

celest zephyr
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I do as well, looks like the highlight of this fight

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was the post fight singing from Fury

rustic ore
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So apparently OJ Simpson has started a twitter account, first tweet went about as well as you imagined

night dagger
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lmao

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@therealOJ32 is the only official one

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thats just funny

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somebody already hacked it and wrote "I killed her"

celest zephyr
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lol

night dagger
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Kawhi drives a 97 Chevy Tahoe lol

rapid umbra
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good man

celest zephyr
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That guy..

honest umbra
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lmao

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good one

celest zephyr
rustic ore
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Still think he's leaving to join the Clippers but I have to admit, it would be nice to see him stay in the East

celest zephyr
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šŸ™ All I can do is hope and pray

rapid umbra
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i forgot lobov vs paulie is this saturday

celest zephyr
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What a fucking joke of an event

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And the biggest joke is going to be people like me

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Who are going to watch it regardless of how ridiculous it is šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

celest zephyr
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draft tonight

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i hope bol bol gets rhe recognition he deserves

rapid umbra
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goat fights tonight

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wait wtf

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no

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ive lost my mind lol

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not for 2 more days

celest zephyr
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loooool

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regardless the draft, looking forward to see how later of the 1st round goes

rustic ore
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Really curious who the Pels take at 4, if they stay there that is

celest zephyr
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i think theyll take garland

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unless rj slips down and then itll be crazy

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rj and zion back together

rustic ore
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Kinda wish Dolan was dumb enough to not take him but they kinda have to

celest zephyr
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@rustic ore damn

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well

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Hawks have 4th pick now šŸ˜†

rustic ore
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Wow, don't quite think that was a great move but hey, it's their team

celest zephyr
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KatakuriThink no it was def not a good move whatsoever

night dagger
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tampa lightnings suck

celest zephyr
celest zephyr
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yeah

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they shoulda taken bol bol

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everyone sleepin on him

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on g he gon be nasty

dry surge
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Nah

dusky sluice
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I don’t know anything about sports

celest zephyr
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What did you think about big bol's late pick?

dry surge
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Bol bol’s medicals were pretty bad

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Also foot problems at such a light weight is a red flag

celest zephyr
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Has his foot healed?

dry surge
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His mechanics for someone so tall and lanky are an issue as wel

celest zephyr
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I remember he got injured back in December.

dry surge
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It has, but these kinds of things are recurring

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Similar to Porter’s back

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Justin Wright Foreman is a baller

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Also Shamorie Ponds

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Hope someone nabs him soon

celest zephyr
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I completely forgot about Ponds, he kinda vanished after those upsets

dry surge
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Great handle and shot off the dribble

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Only concern is his size and build

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Watching Bol Bol drop was tough, and he definitely looked so done when he did get picked, but I get the concerns

celest zephyr
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I genuinely hope he proves the doubters wrong.

dry surge
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Yeah it’d be nice but the injury concerns are scary

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Humans aren’t built to be that large and lanky and play a sport like basketball

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His help defense and awareness is also a negative

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Gonna need to have him in a zone

celest zephyr
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I am literally only paying attention at the 59th pick at this point

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You think anyone is going to be pick up Tacko Fall, we got a few picks remaining

dry surge
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Suns laid an egg this draft

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Jesus their trades and picks were terrible

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Hawks and Grizz are going to be fun to watch

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And yeah Tacko Fall might not get picked. He’d be a nice signing undrafted

honest umbra
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omg jeff

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ive been calling for u

dry surge
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Offer him a camp invite

honest umbra
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for the last 15 mins

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did u see how I rekt the knicks

dry surge
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I’m watching the draft my guy

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smh

honest umbra
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yea I was watchin

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but my team had 1 pick

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and we drafted some unknown

dry surge
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is your team the Lakers

honest umbra
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its what happens when u got the GOAT and the BROW on the same team

dry surge
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I forgot who they picked

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Lakers are falling upwards

honest umbra
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thats the right way to fall

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we can also have 27 mill in cap space

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i loved the first 10

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especially top 3

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especially when rj got all them cheers

dry surge
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Making so many mistakes but still ending up winning because it’s a storied franchise

honest umbra
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ye

celest zephyr
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But imagine if you had 32 mil in cap space sweatlava

dry surge
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Love RJ, cool dude

honest umbra
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celtics did everythin smart for the last 7 years

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they in shambles

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we stupid

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and we title contenders

dry surge
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I have some concerns, but he’s the best pick there at 3

honest umbra
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yee only if we had a real gm who knew how to work cap space

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and made pelicans wait till the 30th

dry surge
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Nah Celtics crashed their proverbial car this summer

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From losing Kyrie and Horford to this draft

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Yikes

honest umbra
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yea

dry surge
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Yeah but I think they can clear space either way, nothing too difficult

honest umbra
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their starting lineup gonna be rozier brown tatum someone someone

dry surge
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Lakers are gonna be good

honest umbra
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they aint beating no one

dry surge
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Just gonna be about picking the right role players

honest umbra
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i wanna spend all 27 mill on 3 and d guys

dry surge
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Need good spacing on the court

honest umbra
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pick up pat, ariza, those kinda players

celest zephyr
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That’s literally all you guys need

honest umbra
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lbj and ad good on their own

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and kuzma is a really good 3rd option

dry surge
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Yeah those are good role players to surround them

honest umbra
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idk why ppl say we need a 3rd star

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kuz average 20

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leave him alone

celest zephyr
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I would have been triggered for you

honest umbra
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hes also my dad

celest zephyr
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If you guys traded Kuzma

dry surge
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I’m a big pat bev fan despite him injuring Westbrook

honest umbra
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lowkey BI good too

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he was fire when he was on

dry surge
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Yeah Ingram was getting going

honest umbra
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especially late season averaging 20 on 54 percent

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he was a player

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but i can see why we needed to trade him

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pelicans prob prioritized him over kuz

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who is a one dimensional scorer

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its aite

dry surge
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Pelicans did work to obtain assets but Lakers are set up well

honest umbra
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all i gotta say is thx u lottery

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for giving them a star at number 1

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and for giving us number 4 pick

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when we shoulda been 11

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but if they wasnt petty (aka dell demps)

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they been coulda had kuz in feb

dry surge
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Lol yeah both sides screwed up earlier on

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Man watching Zion’s interview had me balling

honest umbra
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zion humble n good

dry surge
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Love him so much

celest zephyr
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Had me in tears

honest umbra
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thats what u like to see

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mans a champ

dry surge
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Hope he stays healthy

honest umbra
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i was crying with him

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and ja

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and rj

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all humble good kids

celest zephyr
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It’s a shame the pelicans won’t do anything with him

honest umbra
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nah son

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u'll see

celest zephyr
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Just like how they wasted AD 😬

dry surge
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Nah they have a chance

honest umbra
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zion a generational talent

dry surge
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Griffin is great

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Assembled a lot of good youth

honest umbra
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they surrounded him with better pieces and assets

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than they ever did AD

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in 8 years

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lmao

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lonzo ball is a hella good POINT guard, idc what u say about his shooting

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holiday an all star

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ingram without hella pressure will control the ball well

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and hart is a top tier bench player who d's up well

celest zephyr
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What did they get from the hawks trade?

dry surge
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Also their other pick is gonna be a great defensive wall

celest zephyr
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Just more picks right

honest umbra
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not to mention if they get randle back who is walking 20-10

dry surge
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Yeah Randle is a baller

honest umbra
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they also got rid of one of the worst contracts

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in solomon hill

dry surge
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Idk if he’ll stay in NO though

honest umbra
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he prob wont

dry surge
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He is unrestricted?

honest umbra
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especially with who they drafted

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at 1 and 7

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their second pick

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was a big mans too

dry surge
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He’ll prob get a pretty fat check this summer

honest umbra
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their third pick was shai's cousin

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he lowkey nice too

dry surge
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Oh that’s why his name was familiar

honest umbra
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bruh he had him come up

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inhis interview

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u even watchin son?

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but shai lowkey nice

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if his cousin anything similar

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pelicans got a good 1

dry surge
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Wizards are also confused as hell

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They lost their GM and are just rolling without a GM

honest umbra
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apparently our pick lowkey nice too

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ppl digging shiz up rn

dry surge
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They didn’t schedule ANY workouts with draft prospects until the last week

honest umbra
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one thing is lakers picks are ALWAYS nice

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they arent always stars but they ballers who hang around in the NBA

dry surge
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And the person they ended up picking wasn’t even the one they worked out

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I REALLY wanted Knicks to move up to get Rui Hachimura

honest umbra
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kuz, zubac, clarkson, mo wagner, svi are just a few examples

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in the last 2 years

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oh that weeb?

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u wanted that mans?

dry surge
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He’s great

honest umbra
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he aight apparently

dry surge
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Amazing tools

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Needs to get his jump shot mechanics locked down but he is great

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Hard worker

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Humble

honest umbra
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ye

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apparently he TOO nice

celest zephyr
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Doing history for Japan

honest umbra
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and i actually mean nice this time

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like this dude attitude nice

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japanese too respectful

dry surge
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He got picked way too early by the Wizards

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They’re really lost out there

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Beal needs to get out quick

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But my favorite young team has got to be the Grizz

celest zephyr
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Loool they are offering Beal a fat extension

dry surge
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JJJ + Brandon Clarke + Morant

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YEESH

celest zephyr
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It’s a wrap

dry surge
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that’s a strong as hell young core

honest umbra
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beal lowkey good

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he deserves all $$$

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ja will be good

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a bit overrated but good

celest zephyr
dry surge
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Coby White reacting to Cam Johnson getting picked 11th by the Suns is hilarious

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He was a late 20s to 2nd round projection

rapid umbra
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imagine watching basketball during the regular season LUL

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jk

honest umbra
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actually

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next seasons the rl season

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warriors out of the count

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bruh he smoked a big one, jeff

dry surge
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I love Coby White

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His game is fun

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Shifty as hell

celest zephyr
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Lakers are winning it next season TBH

honest umbra
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ye its over

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might as well pack it up

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we got the GOAT

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the brow

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thats all u need

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i just need kobe to pop in once here and there, drive in the kobe mentality

celest zephyr
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Next season is the only opportunity to get Lebron his 4th

honest umbra
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and championship guaranteed

celest zephyr
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And final ring

honest umbra
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how dare

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u

celest zephyr
dry surge
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I’m just glad Knicks are approaching the offseason intelligently and ignoring the manchildren media and memers

celest zephyr
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The media is really pushing for a knicks agenda

honest umbra
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ye too bad dere trash

celest zephyr
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Smh you got half the FA linked to the Knicks somehow šŸ˜‚

honest umbra
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kd injured

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klay injured

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kyrie going to brooklyn

dry surge
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Nah they’re not

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They’re pushing an anti-Knicks agenda

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FAs are always linked to the Knicks because they’re a big market team

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Helps improve their stock and price on the market

celest zephyr
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bro

honest umbra
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o

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what stock

dry surge
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It’s all noise from the agents

celest zephyr
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u tryna tell me bol bol has bad mechanics

dry surge
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Yes

celest zephyr
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wrong

dry surge
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Incredibly bad mechanics

honest umbra
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bol bol is gonna prove everyone wrong

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idc what u say

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he aint deserve to go 44

dry surge
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Just curious

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Bounce

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Are you also a Lakers fan?

honest umbra
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u take a chance on a man like that at 28

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or 25

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not 44

celest zephyr
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nah

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im different to lakers

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despite being from LA

honest umbra
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nuggets taken chance on micharl porter jr who is gonna be hella amazin

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and now bol bol

dry surge
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Yikes

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Gotta disagree

celest zephyr
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@honest umbra big agree

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he has a crazy 3

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athletic and good on his feet for a big guy

honest umbra
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literally he can work on mechanics

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hes on the floor hella despite being tall

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only thing im worried about is injuries

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as with all tall ppl

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but he literally athletic af

celest zephyr
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for someone of his height his up and down the floor quick

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*hes

honest umbra
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he aint dragging his ass

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down the court

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he sprintin

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shootin the 3's

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woopin here and there

dry surge
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michael porter jr.'s back injury is a terrible one, around the L3-L4 lumbar section?

honest umbra
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the bounce is E P I

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C

dry surge
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he needed a microdisectomy

celest zephyr
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52% 3p on bol bol ?

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cmon bro

dry surge
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those back injuries are always recoccuring

honest umbra
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they made 2nd seed without mpj

dry surge
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and the spasms you get from them are debilitating

honest umbra
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literally no major risk

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14 picks are either stable or busts

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he was projected 1 for a reason

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HE IS A BALLA

celest zephyr
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Jeff hitting us with the medical facts sweatlava

dry surge
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he had heavy question marks

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shot at a poor percentage

honest umbra
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ye about his injuries

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not his gameplay

dry surge
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low USG% rate

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and inefficient

honest umbra
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zach lavine shot like 20 percentage

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at ucla

celest zephyr
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yeah i mean a back injury is very serious

honest umbra
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and demolished in the nba

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i could careless what u shoot

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for one year

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under a diff system

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spoiled by other players

dry surge
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well zach lavine has better physical tools than MPJ

celest zephyr
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^

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crazy vert

honest umbra
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cam reddish went 10 becuz ppl hella underrated him

dry surge
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and his jump shot is a lot more fluid

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great hop shooter

honest umbra
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u think he shooting less than 34 percent

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in the nba?

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hell nah

celest zephyr
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i dont think cam has the right mentality to be a killer in the nba tbh

dry surge
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MPJ is a 1-2 shooter, hands at forehead, low release, off balance on the sway

celest zephyr
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i might get proven wrong tho 🤷

honest umbra
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cam literally has all the right tools

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he def gonna prove everyone wrong

dry surge
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cam is probably the worst finisher in this draft

celest zephyr
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Yeah deadass Cam is going a big surprise

dry surge
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he's an amazing catch and shoot player, and knows how to fill the lane

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but anything at the rim is a no go

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had the worst FG% within 3-5 of the hoop

celest zephyr
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cam is not consistent

dry surge
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you can blame it on spacing, but the eye test will tell you enough

honest umbra
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bruh

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mike kyryhfyefuewfuewfu had 3 top 10 players

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and cant take them past 8

celest zephyr
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He lived in the shadow of Zion and RJ

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i dont know if his game changed in college but i remember watching in hs and he had great games and then horrible games

honest umbra
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and even then i only remember zion, not rj

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mike is an overrated coach

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i know zion's 100/10 becuz of those games

dry surge
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even with the shadow, if you're a good finisher you're a good finisher

honest umbra
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he literally did not run the team well

dry surge
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he just freezes up and locks up at the rim

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on simple dribble drives

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stiff handle, no left

honest umbra
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he literally hit some of the biggest shots

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of the season

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and hes literally a shooter aint he

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why he is he driving so much

dry surge
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simple drives

honest umbra
#

plus u can learn driving mechanics much easier than fixing ur shot

celest zephyr
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cam just doesnt have the right mental bro

honest umbra
#

bro

dry surge
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i think that has something to do with it

honest umbra
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ur judging his mentality

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off of 1 year?

celest zephyr
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We can’t say anything

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no

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About his mentality

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off hs too

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i watched him since junior

honest umbra
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in hs, he literally had the best mentality

dry surge
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he never seems to want to take the easy two off of dribble drive

honest umbra
#

wasnt he a touted top 5 pick

dry surge
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i mean if all of your exposure to draft prospects is BallIsLife, sure

honest umbra
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he was an absolute killer

celest zephyr
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yeah but thats because hes good at the sport

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against high school players that all you need

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he still played rlly inconsistently

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on and off games

honest umbra
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as like all hs players

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i literally saw lonzo games

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at my hs

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dude would either go off or blank

celest zephyr
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yeah and zo is a semi-bust bro

honest umbra
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yikes

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i thought i was speakin to someone

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with basketball knowledge

celest zephyr
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lmao

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u a zo fanboy

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my fault

honest umbra
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no im a realist

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if u think zo a bust

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u prob watch 2 laker games

celest zephyr
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šŸ– šŸ˜” 🤚

honest umbra
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dude literally has one of the highest IQs for a PG in the game

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u talk about mentality, he has that shit

dry surge
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ngl this is od cringe lmao

honest umbra
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i just think yall are making hella early judgements

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on most of these players

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acting like the right staff + new city + new techniques

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aint ever changed a player

celest zephyr
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man someone better pick up my man tacko later on

honest umbra
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tacko prob gonna be in those summer leagues squad

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he'll get picked up

dry surge
#

well it's nice to be optimistic about the future prospects and want the best for them, but what's physically and factually available like their statistical performance and their physical tools can tell you A LOT about a player

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i did a summer internship in HS for a basketball analytics company that had cole zwicker on board

honest umbra
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i don't mind too much about the statistical performances

dry surge
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he taught me a lot

honest umbra
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that mans who the spurs picked at 19th

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was apparently ranked 2 by analytics

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which is aight whatever

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but the actual recruiters had him going at what, 37?

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stats can be skewed easily

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i'd much rather focus in on a player who played in high leverage situations here in the US against similar talent kin players

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than someone who could have easily balled out backstreet of romania

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some game translates, some do not

dry surge
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he was ranked 2?

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that's news to me

honest umbra
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by whatever analtyics

dry surge
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19 is a bit high for him, but it's a great fit

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and when you're a team like the spurs you draft for fit over best available

honest umbra
#

one of their mathes dudes at espn

dry surge
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especially at the mid range level

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ESPN has probably some of the worst analysts out there

honest umbra
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ye but im sure they know math

dry surge
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they employ stephen a smith

honest umbra
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stephen a smith is their voice

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he aint their stats

dry surge
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you could hardly call them analysts

honest umbra
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he sourced someone whos known for his shit

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not sas

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lmao

dry surge
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i hope to god you're not talking about jay bilas

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and his "best available" board

honest umbra
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no bilas ranked him 37

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so when the analysis came up

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it made bilas look dumb af

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which is also accurate (hes pretty dumb)

dry surge
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bilas is an idiot yes

honest umbra
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but u cant convince me that mans is the 2nd best player in the draft based on some math analytics

dry surge
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where was he number 2?

honest umbra
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bruh im in data analysis and dont fully believe in this shit

dry surge
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i'm pretty doubtful any credible analytics department had him 2nd at that spot

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most analytics departments also don't rank based on availability

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they just have a big board before the draft

honest umbra
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if none of the kids had names

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just put em numbers on their board

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and put numbers into one of them analytics machines

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u think draft would look the same?

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i doubt zion would even go first in that case

dry surge
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samanic is a versatile big, fluid for his size. nice pedigree playing for FIBA and winning gold in the U18 championship

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i'm pretty sure he got MVP in that series as well

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high IQ and slasher and has a good stroke on the perimeter

honest umbra
#

i also think doing well overseas is a bit overrated as well

dry surge
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he's a good stash player

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the overseas competition, mainly in the adriatic quarters, is leagues better than college level and g league level

honest umbra
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i agree

dry surge
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it's a pretty nifty indication of maturity at higher levels

honest umbra
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but it's also unrealistic to expect the same level of success here

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most succcesses are exceptions

dry surge
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positionless basketball is in now, and no one has been doing positionless basketball better than FIBA

honest umbra
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and not enough of them

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literally 5 players to go to us instead of college FROM here, includes brandon jennings in italy and like 2 this year? including lamelo ball

dry surge
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the average level of play is higher overseas, so the ones that standout overseas are high impact and noticed highly here in the states

honest umbra
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plus how do u gauge it on a base level

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when they go to so many diff leagues

dry surge
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i'm mainly referring to FIBA

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all other leagues are inferior

honest umbra
#

some leagues are stronger/weaker than others

dry surge
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ABL is pretty bad

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so lamelo should look good over there

honest umbra
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lamelo is a good player

dry surge
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FIBA is the main breeding pool for international talent

honest umbra
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hes really upped his game

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in the last 2 years

dry surge
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i'm aware

honest umbra
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though hes gonna get swatted 100 times

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before he learns

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he needs to do shit differently now

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especially when hes calmly driving

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his decision making on the ball has improved drastically

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and his nonexistent defense or highlight defense has become more on play

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he'll struggle for a bit but he'll be good there and here

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idk where he'll get drafted

dry surge
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i haven't started digging into next year's prospects yet

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i started this year's research about 5 months ago

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watched a lot of tape of fringe prospects

honest umbra
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ye but i aint saying reddish and bol bol will be amazing

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im sure theres merit as to why they dropped

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these team analysts def know more than me

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thats literally their job

dry surge
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like i said

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it's fine to be optimistic and hope for the best for all of the players selected, it's just that there are clear indications of why they dropped, like you said.

honest umbra
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but I personally have a knack of believing players like that tend to pop out

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and that sometimes the shit on the scouting reports/stats sheets

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isnt always whats the same on the court

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like why was markelle fultz drafted 1st when he was so shit

dry surge
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the thing is, the stuff on the scouting reports and stat sheets are direct results of their actions on the court

honest umbra
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nobody's gonna draft on intuition. jerry west had a plan picking kobe and vice versa

dry surge
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because philly is dumb

honest umbra
#

their actions are justified

dry surge
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i had him 5th

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and they also broke him

honest umbra
#

but bol bol to 44th is insulting

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when he did more with less and proved most haters wrong

dry surge
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it sucks for him, and i had him late 20s

celest zephyr
#

It's all good

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he is just going to do it again

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and prove more haters wrong

honest umbra
#

is he injured now btw?

dry surge
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no he's recovered as far as i'm aware

honest umbra
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aight bet

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good 1st season

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he's behind jokic and millsap right?

dry surge
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but the talk amongst executives are that they were high on bol bol until he came in for workouts

honest umbra
#

who else they got

dry surge
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his workouts and medicals scared the teams off

honest umbra
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im not surprised about medicals

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tall players of his size dont work

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out

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but hes also different on many levels than many in the past, hes actually athletic

dry surge
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i wouldn't call him athletic

honest umbra
#

his mechanics are wack but not something irreparable

#

he has a bounce

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he aint afraid of being on the floor

#

what was the injury that kept him out of oregon

dry surge
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stress fracture

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forgot which bone in the foot

honest umbra
#

o

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this dude lowkey 200 pounds

dry surge
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i said this before but

honest umbra
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can u put some weight on chief

dry surge
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208 pounds with a foot stress fracture is a major red flag

honest umbra
#

wtf

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208 pounds

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i know everyday boys running around

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more than that

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why aint zion teaching him

dry surge
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his body isn't conducive to putting on weight

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frame doesn't fill out well

celest zephyr
#

I remember Bol sr

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had a hard time putting on weight too

dry surge
#

everything about him is too "upper"

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COG too high

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any weight he puts on will probably be on top

honest umbra
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ye bol sr

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was even less

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wasnt he?

dry surge
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dribble is too high

honest umbra
#

why is the reason boban struggles

dry surge
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can't get low to guard, so switching PnR on him is terrible

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boban doesn't struggle as much as he's limited in his playing time and touches

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he's extremely heavy footed

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not a great help defender

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good IQ, adept passer, and soft touch

honest umbra
#

boban has the weight but heavy footed

dry surge
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but his tools are limited outside of his size

honest umbra
#

bol bol got the bounce but can easily get wiped out

dry surge
#

bol bol doesn't have bounce

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he's just tall

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incredible wingspan

honest umbra
#

bruh I saw some of his games

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he wil

#

d

dry surge
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don't confuse wingspan for bounce

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he's probably the worst help defender in the draft

#

defensive schemes are difficult for him

honest umbra
#

also wasnt a lot of the medical shiz

#

the same about embiid

dry surge
#

couldn't do man to man because of the limitations to his body and oregon's zone usually got messed up because he never recognized passes to break zone and didn't pressure the release

#

yeah

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but there's also more to medicals than just "this person has this injury"

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various physical measurements as well as body kinematics are recorded and detailed by the on-hand physicians

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bol bol is fluid for his size, but his jumping mechanics don't generate enough lift. he has long strides but he is also flat footed

honest umbra
#

yea embiid had a bad history too

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it wasnt just 1 injury

dry surge
#

the length of his legs make him bow legged inwards and puts bad stress on his joints

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specifically the ankle and knees

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bol bo lcan't get low on screens, poor hip connection means he's a liability on switches and anyway with a lower center of gravity than him

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rarely helps on defense

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or rather, he's too slow to react

#

shot is silky smooth, and tends to settle (which is understandable because it's a great advantage)

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but at higher level of play it'll become an issue

celest zephyr
#

Well, now all we can do is wait for the summer league/season to begin.

#

OP chapter šŸ™

celest zephyr
celest zephyr
#

marvin graduated from my hs

#

we get zaire and bronny next year

#

oh shit

#

u go to SC?

celest zephyr
#

yeah'

honest umbra
#

wait

#

ur actually at SC?

#

thats lit

#

i wasnt too far away

#

we played lonzo a few times

celest zephyr
#

yeah i remember

#

yall remember the big guy we had playin last year?

#

he was a o line senior just playin for fun lol

honest umbra
#

i was at westchester

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we wasnt in your conf

#

but basketball lowkey the only sport we was good at

#

state champs a good amount of tiems

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i might go check out some sc games next year doe

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since im local

celest zephyr
#

for sure bro

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tho it might be booked

#

we have a small gym

honest umbra
#

lmao ofc it'll be booked

#

its freakin zaire and bronny

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i'll be outside, idm

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watching the GOATS turn GOATS

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is fun within itself

#

yoo I completely forgot, what colleges are they gonna go to

#

or is that when its turning back to "hs can jump to nba"

rustic ore
#

Imagine if Lebron plays long enough to play with/against his son šŸ‘€

honest umbra
#

which would be IRONIC considering lebron was one of the last

#

and his son would be one of the first

rustic ore
#

Think it's turning back to straight into pros

honest umbra
#

lmaooo

#

lebron is def playing long enough

#

to play against his son

#

no cap

celest zephyr
#

thats cool af

#

imagine gettin crossed up by yo own son in the nba

honest umbra
#

i mean

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id hope he be able to cross me up

#

he 20+ years younger

#

than me

#

lmao

rustic ore
#

Damn, kid is only 14 and is already 6'2

celest zephyr
#

6'2 ??

#

he was like 5'10 last year tf

honest umbra
#

lmao

#

lamelo spurt is the best

#

this dude went from nuffin

#

to 6'7

celest zephyr
#

yeah 4 inches in like a year or smthn

honest umbra
#

seen lamelo when he was a shrimp

#

when lonzo played in '15 against us

#

and now he tower me x2

#

these ppl genes on another level

celest zephyr
#

i hope jah comes see some of bronnys games

#

he's like what a 9th grader and 7 ft

honest umbra
#

idk man

#

i feel like 6'6-6'11 lowkey aight

#

once u start hitting 7

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u start hitting caps

#

like it starts becoming less advantageous

#

and more dangerous

celest zephyr
honest umbra
#

i feel for my boy bol bol

celest zephyr
#

he was in 8th when this photo taken

rustic ore
#

Jesus

celest zephyr
#

thats zion btw lmao

honest umbra
#

...

#

lmao ik who it is

#

im a huge bball fan

#

wtf..

#

HE MAKES ZION LOOKS SMALL AF

#

THIS MANS IS IN 9TH GRADE??

celest zephyr
#

yeah lmaoo

honest umbra
#

bro

#

what they feeding him??

rustic ore
#

Zion is 6'7

celest zephyr
#

idk but he built like a goliath

rustic ore
#

And that kid is a freshman in HS you said?

celest zephyr
#

yeah that photo was taken when he was in 8th tho

honest umbra
#

bro i saw some big ppl in hs

#

but they wasnt that well built

rustic ore
#

Jesus Christ man

#

Fucking 6'8 when you're like what, 13? 14?

#

I can't even imagine

celest zephyr
#

everyone looks small next to him

honest umbra
#

bro

#

your school has monsters

#

do you guys have cameras everywhere

celest zephyr
#

yeah we have a lot of cameras

rustic ore
#

Yeah rough for Bol Bol to go to a shit team like Miami, but hey at least there isn't a state income tax in FL so he gets to keep most of his money 🤷

honest umbra
#

i thought he got drafted by denver

#

hes going to miami?

celest zephyr
#

he in nuggets

rustic ore
#

Oh wow

#

Nice

#

Yeah he hit the jack pot then, Denver is one of the best teams in the league

#

They could take the west next season

honest umbra
#

indeed

#

they good

#

i love jokic

celest zephyr
#

tacko fall šŸ™ celtics

rustic ore
#

Jesus, they tackled the shit out of this dude LUL

#

@celest zephyr @honest umbra @celest zephyr

celest zephyr
#

thats so cool dude

#

good on this bro

#

this shit makes me happy

celest zephyr
#

@rustic ore Yeah, I saw it

#

this draft was surrounded with a lot of good energy

honest umbra
#

hehe

rustic ore
#

Damn, ain't that the truth?

dry surge
#

i don't like his fit next to bron

honest umbra
#

me either

#

but he better

#

than alex damn carsuo

rustic ore
#

He ain't going back to the Lakers

honest umbra
#

i mean shit, he might

#

but the reason he became an all star

#

was becuz he left LA

#

why would u go back

rustic ore
#

Right?

honest umbra
#

into all that glimmer

dry surge
#

he had a high usage rate last season

honest umbra
#

the thing is he went to an even bigger city last season

dry surge
#

not my ideal choice as a RFA

honest umbra
#

it aint the fact that he went to a small market team

#

he literally went to NY

rustic ore
#

If anything if the dude is deadset on going back to LA he'll go to the Clippers

honest umbra
#

lmao whats up with the clippers

#

getting everyone

#

usually every other year "lakers getting this dude and this dude"

#

this year "hes def going to clips"

dry surge
#

just some food for thought:

honest umbra
#

they got 2 max spots well aware

dry surge
#

most of the reports about X player is going to Y destination is false

honest umbra
#

but still, they aint getting every1 šŸ˜‚

dry surge
#

they're generated by agents trying to get leverage

rustic ore
#

I guess Steve Ballmer is a better owner than initially expected? 🤷

honest umbra
#

jeff i passed 6th grade too

#

it aint about balmer

#

its literally about jerry west

dry surge
#

clippers aren't actually in most conversations

honest umbra
#

and how many teams he has turned into contenders

rustic ore
#

That's fair

honest umbra
#

ppl wanna play for the mans

#

id want him at lakers

#

in a heartbeat

rustic ore
#

Plus Doc Rivers is a decent coach and they have a solid roster right now

honest umbra
#

i think rivers is overrated actually

#

1 championship to his name in a very good year, albeit

dry surge
#

doc rivers gets a lot of hype as a good coach because he happened to be the coach of teams with great players

honest umbra
#

but he didnt take a lot of other good teams past 2nd round either

rustic ore
#

He's got a ring though, how many HCs can say that right now? 4? 5?

dry surge
#

his plays are outdated, schemes outdated

honest umbra
#

how u gonna give up a 3-1 lead to a lackluster houston

#

i mean if uve lasted in the league as long as he has

#

im sure u can say that

#

kerr got a few, pop, spoelstra

dry surge
#

fizdale, though he was an assistant coach at the time

#

nurse

honest umbra
#

lol ye

#

the most recent one, nurse

#

but rings aside

dry surge
#

doc still runs floppy sets

honest umbra
#

i dont think doc rivers is a great coach tactically

dry surge
rustic ore
#

Who are the last 10 champs, Warriors got 3, Heat 2, Spurs 1, Raps 1 now, and then the Lakers when Kobe was still there

dry surge
#

he's pretty bad, fate

rustic ore
#

And the Cavs

honest umbra
#

lue gone

rustic ore
#

Yup

honest umbra
#

nurse got 1

#

spurs won 2

#

didnt they

rustic ore
#

No

#

Oh I forgot the Mavs

honest umbra
#

o

#

they made the finals twice

#

lost the first time becuz "ray allen"

#

kawhi won finals mvp second time

rustic ore
#

So Carlisle

honest umbra
#

ye

#

carlisle > rivers

dry surge
#

very definitively

honest umbra
#

id prob take any coach who's won in last 10 years

#

except

#

ty lue

rustic ore
#

Yo Mavs are gonna be something if KP is healthy

honest umbra
#

theyre gonna be a hella fun team to watch

#

im glad harrison barnes gun

dry surge
#

i really dislike coaches who are "character coaches" and don't actually run proper plays and just go isolation

honest umbra
#

mark jackson was a character coach

dry surge
#

ie mark jackson

#

ye

#

he was not good

honest umbra
#

i hate when ppl say its his team

#

like lowkey all credits dude, u was there

#

u put the foundation and the base

#

but the disrespect on kerrs name is insane

dry surge
#

yeah

honest umbra
#

u think making it work with how many stars he got is easy?

#

i've seen him run some absolutely amazing plays

dry surge
#

kerr understands the modern game, and his sets are EXTREMELY modern

honest umbra
#

that raps turnover when warriors "shoulda fouled"

#

was so epic

#

legit kudos to kerr all the way

dry surge
#

he was the one who practically introduced the NBA to elevator plays

honest umbra
#

obv mr. curry missed the 3

#

but if they go on to win it

dry surge
#

they were non-existent before kerr brought them

honest umbra
#

nobody talks about kerr not fouling

#

thats how underrated he is

#

what are elevator plays in simpler terms?

dry surge
#

hard to describe, but it's basically when the shooter you want runs through a double screen that's set up side-by-side and they close together as soon as the shooter passes through the double screen "like an elevator door"

#

you'll know it when you see it

honest umbra
#

lol i actually know