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worthy crypt
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yeah idk i do watch some booktube people but im off reddit

limber urchin
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After I finish Empire of the Dawn tonight, I'm gonna go back and finish Frankenstein (halfway through or more at the moment). And then, THEN, finally I will go back and complete Dune.

sage remnant
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This man's never finishing dune

limber urchin
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But I know I will feel empty after Empire.

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I'm curious what will fill that void.

tawny parcel
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i will read dune before you do buffy

worthy crypt
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i stopped after dune 3 or 4

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theres like 12 of them

limber urchin
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I'm 1/4 through it. But you could easily catch up.

sage remnant
tawny parcel
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im gonna finish fight club then rythm of war

sage remnant
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rest are by his son

tawny parcel
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then something else

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idk

sage remnant
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Milking the franchise

limber urchin
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I only want to read book 1 just to finally get an idea of it.

sage remnant
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Dune 4's my fav

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šŸ™

worthy crypt
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ill get a bunch of reading time over the holidays, i have to travel a lot to see all my family

sage remnant
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Man it would be so fun if I could do audiobooks

tawny parcel
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im also seeing my family so hopefully i get reading as well then

sage remnant
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so many extra reading time

worthy crypt
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yeah idk how you get any significant reading done without audiobooks

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i listened to like 30 audiobooks this year and read like 3 paper books

limber urchin
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Yeah, I just can't focus on the audio without being distracted.

tawny parcel
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i do audiobooks if m driving

limber urchin
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But I like to listen to them as background noise after reading it myself

worthy crypt
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i put it in mindless stuff i dont gotta focus on, like driving, chores, exercise

tawny parcel
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i dont like doing exercise because i alwaysw try to focus on form and stuff

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and then I start thinking about that

worthy crypt
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I need audiobooks or id probably never exercise

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I need em as part of the experience/reward cause i hate exercising

spiral quest
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I mostly just walk for exercise and listen to music. I used to do audiobooks when walking but I found I wasnt concentrating as much as I wanted to. Now I don't do Audiobooks at all

tawny parcel
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i think i could do auidobooks for walking

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but not exercising

modern lichen
frank rivet
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Lol I'ma be honest

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That sounds stupid lol

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Practical make up with depth projection sounds a lot better for a cyclops

near echo
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Yeah I'm not sure that's the best solution lol

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More power to em tho

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I think it's a bit ridiculous how practical effects has kinda become a buzzword in its own right cuz people immediately associate cgi with looking cheap

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I gotta imagine they're doing plenty of cg on that cyclops too to smooth movements and exaggerate expressions, and at that point I'm curious if they're even benefiting from an animatronic or if it's pretty much gonna be a wholesale model replacement just leveraging the lighting information and a statue ala the Sonic movies would have sufficed

frank rivet
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Seems like a big waste of money lol

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When you can get really good makeup nowadays

foggy mirage
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Christopher Nolan explains how he approached the mythological aspect of THE ODYSSEY:

ā€œOne of the things I needed to crack was how to approach mythological elements in a sort of real-world way. The big breakthrough creatively in thinking about the gods was that everything that is now explained by science was once supernatural. Lightning, thunder, earthquakes, volcanoes... people are literally seeing gods everywhere; not even the evidence of gods, they're seeing the actions of gods. I don't want to say too much about it beyond indicating that yes, the evidence of the supernatural is all around these people. It's very much part of their lives. And I think it's quite a lot of fun to tap into that.ā€

(via @empiremagazine)

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He said so much and nothing at the same time

near echo
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Hopefully the film has way more going on than this

foggy mirage
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Thats literally what I thought so too

foggy mirage
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Like yes jackass this is how mythology works

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The supernatural exists around them

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😭

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Baby's first fantasy film

near echo
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Even then the roots of it are so much deeper than inventing characters to explain natural phenomenon

leaden depot
near echo
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You look into the inspirational sources of cyclopses and minotaurs and the titans and the stories they provide are just as interesting as their legends

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There's literally a whole history there. No shit but sometimes it needs to be said lol. It wasn't just surface level observation

sage remnant
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Dude Bros judging film before its even out

foggy mirage
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Nolan just talks like a dickhead

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He can't help himself

near echo
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I'm not a fan of Nolan or a lot of his movies

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I think the only one I've seen I have any fondness for is Dunkirk

foggy mirage
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Memento for me

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Maybe inception

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Parts of tenet

frank rivet
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Icl the dark night is a top 5

near echo
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I'm not an inception HATER but I think it's so boring and average compared to nearly every other film about the nature of dreams that I've seen and I can't believe it's become the one most synonymous with that matter

modern lichen
frank rivet
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But inception was

foggy mirage
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Werwulf and this in the same year is crazy for me

sage remnant
foggy mirage
sage remnant
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And people like mind boggling stuff

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which inception is for most people

frank rivet
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Avatar yes

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But icl the new avatar kinda looks weird lol

foggy mirage
frank rivet
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True

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I'll be there no matter what

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I just want more water I'm a big water guy

foggy mirage
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Fucking water boy

near echo
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Inception ||for me felt like a blockbuster action movie using dreams as something of a motif, not something that feels like it actually happens within someones psyche||

tawny parcel
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nolan will save cinema with the odyssey like he saved it with oppenheimer

modern lichen
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i dont give a shit about avatar or james cameron

frank rivet
modern lichen
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but i am going to go with my friends to watch it

tawny parcel
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1 and it was pirated on my computer and it was awesome

tawny parcel
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and i think about it and I got the book of it

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american prometheus

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i wish i saw it in theaters

modern lichen
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its time for us to hang out, fuck the movie itself i dont care

near echo
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Fire & Ash is the make or break point of this franchise

foggy mirage
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I watched in in theaters

foggy mirage
frank rivet
foggy mirage
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Again

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There is no break

near echo
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If it sells a billion again then there's a conversation to be had about avatar being the biggest IP of all time with zero cultural influence

tawny parcel
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lmao

foggy mirage
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😭

frank rivet
tawny parcel
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idk whos watching these movies

foggy mirage
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Thats been the case since 2 came out

frank rivet
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No one knows a single avatar character

near echo
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If it's just a moderate box office then it was two flukes carried by technical innovation the first time and morbid curiosity the second

foggy mirage
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First one pretty much was the case

modern lichen
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it will make a billion dollars and no one will care like 1 hour after watching the film

frank rivet
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I still don't know who the main character is

foggy mirage
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Jake sully

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Literally only one i know

frank rivet
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I don't even know his wife name

foggy mirage
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I dont either

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And I watched avatar 1 30 times

near echo
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I don't either and I liked the second movie a lot

tawny parcel
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man now im thinking about when i watched the interstellar in imax

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religious ass experience

frank rivet
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I remember one of the kids name was Spider

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Which was dumb af

tawny parcel
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i started believing in god seeing some of thse shots with the music

modern lichen
tawny parcel
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i had not seen a true imax film until i had seen a nolan imax film

frank rivet
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Because it looks nice

modern lichen
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what's in there for you to watch it 30 times

frank rivet
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Water

foggy mirage
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And a family member

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Liked it

modern lichen
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the first one, which barely has any water

near echo
tawny parcel
frank rivet
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I think avatar was the first 3d movie I ever saw

near echo
tawny parcel
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the game can not be that good bro

near echo
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Spy Kids 3D: Game Over has been FORGOTTEN

modern lichen
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Spy Kids 2 >>>

near echo
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I mean no shit

frank rivet
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What's the spy kids with the spider gorilla

tawny parcel
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spy kids 3d is cinema

sage remnant
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gonna go with whole class

near echo
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3D was like proto Sharkboy & Lava Girl

frank rivet
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Was that 2?

tawny parcel
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sharkboy and lava girl also cinema

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dream dream dream dream dream dream

modern lichen
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Robert Rodriguez so washed

near echo
sage remnant
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Who

foggy mirage
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Favorite Robert movie still just desperado

near echo
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There's a shitty Xbox spiritual sequel to it by ex-Sega talent called Crimson Dragon

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And that games pretty awful

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But it's EERILY similar to Avatar

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Like has some of the same plot beats as Way of the Water and everything

modern lichen
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We don’t care about your niche games man /j

near echo
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Hey.

tawny parcel
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/srs/

modern lichen
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Lmfao

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Bon the only guy who can out obscure me

sage remnant
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If it doesn't make billion its not good fr

tawny parcel
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i havent seen like any movies this year have there been any good ones

foggy mirage
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Lost odyssey pc port please

tawny parcel
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the only one that catches my eye is marty supreme

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superman was good

modern lichen
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You should search on Letterboxd

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Like a real man

sage remnant
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I loved superman and fantastic four

modern lichen
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Instead of asking around like a bitch

tawny parcel
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I strive to be a white boy like timothee chalomet

sage remnant
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My favorite of this year I think

foggy mirage
modern lichen
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Beta bitch

tawny parcel
sage remnant
near echo
tawny parcel
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"seen any good movies this year" "yeah i used my letterbox"

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point and laugh

sage remnant
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I watched really good movies this year, but not of this year's release

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Robocop, locke, Coherence

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those two days were so good movie days

near echo
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Joking aside but also keeping to the comparisons I was making all these things pull from Moebius. Who IS one of the single most important artists of all time. Someone's who's reach extended across multiple countries and industries and genres

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These things I'm referencing all pull from Arzach

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And I think that's why Avatar has zero influence

foggy mirage
near echo
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Its bringing those kinds of visual motifs to life with a fidelity they've never had before

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Not a single thing in these films is NEW

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They're already well established in jrpgs and comics and animation

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That's why they're always spectacles and you can't remember shit from em

foggy mirage
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Need that xeno gears movie

modern lichen
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Good films this year:

  • One Battle After Another
  • No Other Choice
  • Sinners
  • Black Bag
  • Train Dreams
  • Superman
  • F4 First Step
  • Weapons
  • 28 Years Later
  • F1
  • Phoenician Scheme
  • Predator Killer of Killers
  • Mission Impossible Final Reckoning
    @tawny parcel
tawny parcel
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oh yeah i watched f1 too

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vroom vroom

near echo
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Didn't like F4 very much

tawny parcel
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fun action slop

sage remnant
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Oh yeah f1 and final reckoning too

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good movies

tawny parcel
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i watched part of sinners but it was too late at night and then i never finished it

foggy mirage
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That hated 28 years

foggy mirage
sage remnant
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It's among the lesser good movies of franchise

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but that's still like a good movie lol

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Fast 11 and Beyond the Spiderverse when YamatoCope

foggy mirage
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Spider verse happening before 11

arctic flax
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Kinda dont care bout spiderverse anymore, its been too long

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Ill watch it when it comes out but im not anticipating it or thinking about it

modern lichen
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Revolutionary

arctic flax
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hope one battle still playing in my theatres. Havent been able to watch it yet

white smelt
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But can’t you play it on pc through gamepass?

foggy mirage
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This shit is news to me

white smelt
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I thought you could play any game pass game on pc and Xbox cause it’s just windows architecture

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Am I wrong?

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What the hell is gamepass for?

sage sleet
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anybody have any good sites to watch shows on?

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44 cents to my name for a few days n ion wanna spend money on FX to begin w for a series that will most likely be dog asshole

sage remnant
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Hexa.watch

sage sleet
foggy mirage
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Only native running games

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If it did let you play anything there it would be worth the money

sage remnant
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Qbz you would probably know 330

worthy crypt
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I think the common stuff makes it very easy to ship on both but that doesn't guarantee a game will choose to ship on both. But I don't really know i work on the boring guts of game stuff. I gave up the professional gamedev dreams when I saw how brutal the jobs were re pay and work life balance

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In gamedev You will work twice as hard, make less than half as much, and most of the time your audience hates you. Or at least has a few very loud people who do

sage remnant
foggy mirage
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They tried turning this shit into Netflix for games

worthy crypt
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I'm a humble ricotta miner providing for the lasagna of the world

foggy mirage
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Still with Chris pratt

worthy crypt
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He's so cool

sage remnant
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Make the next Stardew Valley qbz

main lion
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there are already a lot of games like stardew

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play those

sage remnant
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Yeah I have

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played thosse

main lion
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ah ICANT

foggy mirage
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Adapt stardew

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Into a whole movie

worthy crypt
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I do wanna make games again when I retire but I burned out on doing it as a hobby cause the job is pretty soul crushing. The ricotta mining I mean

sage sleet
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Think imma see rental family today

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Been a min since I been to the theatres

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I think

modern lichen
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bro fell for a satire tweet lmfao

sage sleet
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My fault. Logging off.

modern lichen
modern lichen
sage remnant
valid thunder
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I aint reading grrm big back describing food for 2 pages

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Its fine to skim

modern lichen
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Never skipping food descriptions from GRRM

sage remnant
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I don't think its fine to skim but I guess for people with aphantasia I can see it being a okay reason

valid thunder
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Depends on the book

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Some authors definitely be padding for no reason

spiral quest
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I don't skim, but I also don't read GRRM

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Though I do read Robert Jordan

sage remnant
spiral quest
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And repetitive

limber urchin
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I had a great time with Empire of the Dawn.

spiral quest
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I love the story in Wheel of Time but you gotta suffer

limber urchin
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I think you will like it.

sage remnant
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Nice buffy

valid thunder
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Rj is a great example of when its perfectly fine to skim

modern lichen
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recently read an RF kuang book so bad with the descriptions i can tend to agree on the case to case basis

limber urchin
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Back to Frankenstein.

sage remnant
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I never skimmed rj

valid thunder
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Rj is far more egregious than grrm

sage remnant
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That he is

limber urchin
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I think the next big fantasy trilogy I will tackle sometime in the future will be that Prince of Thorns trilogy or whatever it's called. But I have a few more books to get through first.

valid thunder
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I dont think grrm even writes uneconomically, i just dont like reading about food

limber urchin
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......i do

modern lichen
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same, i like the way he describes a lot of things

valid thunder
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I am always surprised when i hear grrms prose is considered sub par. I guess i read too much contemporary fantasy

sage remnant
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His Library Trilogy is liked more btw Buffy

limber urchin
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which one is actually better to you?

sage remnant
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Not read Library Trilogy. Didn't appeal to me

limber urchin
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I now see what people mean by GRRM's prose after the Empire trilogy. Jay Kristoff can paint with words by comparison.

sage remnant
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Eh

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I would also consider Kristoff's prose to be mediocre

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Not in a bad sense too ig. It just doesn't stand out or become an issue

sage remnant
limber urchin
modern lichen
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bugonia is fine

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the korean original is better

limber urchin
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Whenever I see posters from that movie Bugonia, I can only think to Mr. Doubtfire ||When Sally Fields gets pissed at a goat that Robin Williams brought over from the zoo, and yells "you ate my begonias!" It's like a weird core memory I have of the first time ever hearing the word begonia. I know it's not the same word, but my brain thinks they're the same.||

sage remnant
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@worthy crypt apparently DCC got two tabletop rpg games

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Also Wow

worthy crypt
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yeah my friend was telling me about it we might try to run a game of it

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im very curious to see how it goes cause i think part of the benefit is like... the iceberg of systems yknow what i mean

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you can imply theres 10000 classes to pick from but you only have to flesh out the 8 or so classes your main characters actually pick

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so how they gonna do that in a tapletop rpg that is supposed to be offering all these options that are only ever implied

sage remnant
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Probably the designers who created it had to put in more effort in communication with Dinniman

worthy crypt
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its not just classes though everything is kinda taking advantage of that iceberg concept so i wonder where they draw the line. they cant possibly implement everythig implied or even anything close to it

sage remnant
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Ye

peak pilot
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Finished words of radiance

sage remnant
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Nicr

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Continue

peak pilot
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No

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Words of radiance ending ||adolin is goated for killing sadeas, 4 radiants are founded (actually 5 with lift I believe) and Jasnah is alive!!!. I actually think eshonai is alive too because that end to her is too anticlimactic for her to be actually dead||

peak pilot
shrewd sigil
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yesss100%

tawny parcel
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Edgrdancer ||no because the main character is lift and she is annoying||

shrewd sigil
shrewd sigil
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edgedancer/stormlight ||lift is a top 5 character||

spiral quest
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Every time I say it I get tons of people telling me I am wrong, nice to finally see otherwise

modern lichen
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You’re agreeing with Wombat of all people

spiral quest
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A broken clock is right twice a day

modern lichen
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Heartbreaking! The worst person you know made a valid point ass moment

tawny parcel
valid thunder
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I agree with wombat

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That character is vexing

modern lichen
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Edgedancer/OB ||I don’t care about Lift myself because I tend to forget what she does sometimes||

spiral quest
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Stormlight ||Lift is one of those characters in literature that I roll my eyes at when they appear on the page. I don't like saying it but man||

tawny parcel
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TRUTH NUKE

spiral quest
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Sometimes there are just characters in literature that make the experience worse for you

modern lichen
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There are worse characters I’ve encountered

spiral quest
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I am not disagreeing

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Just dislike this character a lot

valid thunder
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Ob || she talks like a mcu character ||

modern lichen
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Man I guess Katabasis IS the worst book I completed this year, I’ve dropped two other bad ones but somehow I just finished Katabasis despite it being dogshit

spiral quest
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I am so much quicker to dnf a book than I used to be

modern lichen
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Yeah same

spiral quest
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As a kid Id put up with anything, now I get to page 30 and if it's not doing anything, I pass

modern lichen
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But I just stuck with this

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Because the first 3rd was actually ok

spiral quest
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Isnt that the worst

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When a book is good for a while then you get like halfway or 2/3rds through and it nose dives

limber urchin
modern lichen
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I should’ve expected worse because Babel was actively ok until like the first third as well

spiral quest
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Series feels worse for that though. I am still irritated by Dark Tower

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Interesting

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You struck me as someone who woulda enjoyed Kuang as an author

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Based off their rep anyway

modern lichen
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Babel and Katabasis are two different types of problematic writing but they suffer from the same academic credentials that characterize Kuang’s literature that signals an inability to properly narrate a story or even attempt to tell one

limber urchin
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well now I need to read Kuang

tawny parcel
limber urchin
modern lichen
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Yellowface is a different case, because it’s intentionally a satire that just feels like it’s hitting back at the critics of her work but also falls into the pits of its own satire

tawny parcel
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Haesh you’ve read fight club right

modern lichen
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Yeah

tawny parcel
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I’m halfway through it I dont care for it but I’ll thug it out

modern lichen
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It’s an ok book

tawny parcel
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Feels like pseudo intellectual bullshit

modern lichen
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Palanhuik is an acquired taste

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Requires time to settle in and is not easy to access

tawny parcel
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Fight club ||he put his penis in the tomato soup look at how he fights against the man||

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Bravo Palanhuik

modern lichen
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Fight Club is transgressive without much bite or substance to back it up

tawny parcel
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I also just dont like the bleakness of it lol

modern lichen
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I think it works in the favor of it, gives it a consistency of tone and intent

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But it’s just not that interesting to read

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I don’t like the film either

tawny parcel
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Fight club ||I’m okay with a bleak setting, but most of the times I like it when theres a beating heart that shows that hey theres something to push past here ||

sage remnant
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also Vady having great taste like usual

modern lichen
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I genuinely think the term overrated fits Fight Club

spiral quest
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I am kinda with Harsh, I read Fight club years ago and I just didnt enjoy it much

sage remnant
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Tho I don't know about the book. Only the movie

spiral quest
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Around the same time I read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas

modern lichen
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It’s one of Fincher’s weaker films too

tawny parcel
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Fight club ||i do like some of the lines tho ā€œwith insomnia everything is a copy of a copy of a copyā€||

modern lichen
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Fear and Loathing works because Hunter S Thompson’s gonzo tendencies and writing style are motivated by a self awareness and humor that are endearing

spiral quest
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I liked Fear and Loathing, but I am not one of those dudes who puts it on a super high pedestal

modern lichen
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I don’t either

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But it’s still a good read

spiral quest
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For sure. I don't usually venture out of sci fi/fantasy/horror, so it was a good time for that

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Oh and westerns, I like some of those too

modern lichen
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Currently reading Underworld, Don Delillo’s writing style is absolutely beautiful but it’s such a stone cold bummer, loving it tho

spiral quest
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Don Delillo is one of those authors that is on my way off the in the future tbr. I do want to read that stuff but it's not particularly tempting atm

sage remnant
spiral quest
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I donated my copy of Edgedancer lmao

sage remnant
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WaT, OB and Edgedancer are my 5/5 Stormlight books

sage remnant
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Stormlight all
|| Lift is my top 3 characters with
Szeth
Dalinar
Lift being the list ||

spiral quest
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I didnt gel with it at all, but that's me. WoR and WoK are my top 2 Stormlight books

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Well we def arent on the same page there

sage remnant
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That's what makes it fun!

spiral quest
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I agree, Id rather not be like how so many booktubers and stuff are. Recommending the same shit all the time

sage remnant
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2034 Can't come any sooner

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I need Stormlight 6 fast

valid thunder
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Tsa || i should pay more attention to lift next time ig. Kinda crazy u alr have her in top 3 given her real arc is supposed to be in the second half no ? ||

sage remnant
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Yes

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The foundations are already there and p solid

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but its like very sprinkled

valid thunder
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Ok so u have her in top 3 based on j the setup

sage remnant
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Stormlight all || Szeth was my top 1 in book 1 itself and like what I got of his character in that book was just expanded and bolstered in wat||

valid thunder
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Where does kaladin rank for u

sage remnant
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Uhhhhh

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6-7?

valid thunder
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Das low. But i understand

sage remnant
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Stormlight all
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Szeth
Dalinar
Lift
Todium
Shallan ||

sage remnant
valid thunder
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Wat || havent read wat but alot of ppl say his conclusion was fumbled||

sage remnant
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It's like ranking top OP characters for me. I love all of them so much but there's gotta be some I love more lol

tawny parcel
sage remnant
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If you liked his character arc in RoW, then you would like it

tawny parcel
sage remnant
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I had loved it, so the conclusion was one of the most emotional shit I have read

valid thunder
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2034 hmmm . I should delay my reread till then lol

sage remnant
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I also have a tendency of having characters ranked high if like they do more in less time span

valid thunder
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I dont wanna read wat with my fragmentary recollection of first 4 books

valid thunder
sage remnant
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Stormlight || Lift and that minor antagonist from Naruto who's my top 2 character who you said doesn't have a character arc are of that reason ||

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I didn't mean Kal

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Yeah this was my list Mirio

valid thunder
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Interesting

valid thunder
jolly ruin
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What are the top 5 western tv shows of all time (excluding comedies)

worthy crypt
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sopranos, breaking bad, the wire, ....

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better call saul maybe? succession was pretty good. idk those top 3 are pretty solidifed im not sure about 4 adn 5

valid thunder
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Younger me would have put mr robot up there but idk how it holds up now

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Sopranos for sure tho

young compass
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cowboy western

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or just western world lmao

jolly ruin
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Basically English stuff

limber urchin
jolly ruin
valid thunder
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Adventure time

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Should be top 5

limber urchin
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I think he means live action. Right?

jolly ruin
jolly ruin
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Real people

limber urchin
#

Twin Peaks could fall under this banner but it might be too niche.

jolly ruin
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None of that weeb shit

worthy crypt
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if you can say lke the first 4 seasons of game of thrones i think thats pretty peak

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if you just pretend it ends there

limber urchin
#

The first four seasons for sure would fall under that.

young compass
jolly ruin
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Hmm haven’t heard of twin peaks before

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Might check it out after finishing the wire

young compass
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it’s David Lynch so prepare for weird

limber urchin
#

Good weird

jolly ruin
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I don’t mind weird

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If it’s good quality weird

young compass
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it’s good yeah

limber urchin
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Doctor Who would be a great show to check out too, in terms of Western television.

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But it's best to start with the spiritual reboot that happened in 2005.

young compass
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do not subject yourself to Dr who

worthy crypt
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there are some great ones in there but also some pretty weak ones. idk if, as a whole, it would be top 5

limber urchin
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Ignore the sentient tuba.

young compass
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aren’t you Pakistani khalid

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Or am i confusing you with someone

jolly ruin
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Looks like there’s a consensus on breaking bad, sopranos, the wire and early got

valid thunder
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Andor is really good imo

young compass
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I don’t like breaking bad that much tbh

jolly ruin
worthy crypt
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well now youre just being contrarian

young compass
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Definitely way less than the wire or the sopranos

limber urchin
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Andor is too recent I think and I'm not sure how well it's loved.

jolly ruin
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Thoughts on House MD

valid thunder
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Its not top 5 oat yea

young compass
valid thunder
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S1 tho individually i would put up with any season i have watched

young compass
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You know the point

limber urchin
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Scrubs is great, but it's not top 5 and probably falls somewhere along the lines of comedy and drama

young compass
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Yeah he said no comedies

worthy crypt
young compass
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Otherwise I would have said taxi

jolly ruin
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Oh yeah no comedies

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I forgot the rule I put myself

limber urchin
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no fucking laughing

valid thunder
young compass
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Oh fuckin deadwood

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Check out deadwood, that fits both western criteria

limber urchin
#

but uh you should watch buffy

young compass
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House is painful to watch

valid thunder
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Is buffy actually good or is it nostalgia

limber urchin
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hmmmm

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good question

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extrememly important to television would be the best answer I think

valid thunder
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I mean idc abt that lol

limber urchin
#

but it is good with some dated elements

jolly ruin
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I think i will probably do the Sopranos after the wire

young compass
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Buffy is a tier above supernatural

young compass
jolly ruin
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Many series tend to do that

valid thunder
#

Sopranos ?

jolly ruin
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Yeah

limber urchin
#

watch every season of GoT GarPepe

valid thunder
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It stays consistent

young compass
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Oh yeah people usually recommend true detective s1

limber urchin
#

wait

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Heroes season 1 is AMAZING

frank rivet
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true detective S1

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IS PEAK

young compass
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It’s a complete story

frank rivet
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everything after that is TRASH

jolly ruin
#

True detective is good but not top 5 material me don’t think

valid thunder
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Bcs and bb are good. Bcs is def top 5 material

young compass
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OH, somebody somewhere is really good IMO

frank rivet
#

speaking of Peak...Watch The Chair Company

limber urchin
#

Maybe

young compass
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it’s a drama that has comedic elements cause the characters are silly sometimes but it’s a drama first and foremost

limber urchin
#

What about that Severence show that half of you are always praising

valid thunder
#

Not top 5

young compass
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S1 good s2 bad

valid thunder
#

Its similar to andor i think

frank rivet
#

i still need to watch Andor....

valid thunder
#

Quality wise

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Andor s1 is better tho

young compass
#

Honestly I agree Mirio, the closer both andor and severance got to having to answer their meta question instead of using their setting to make critique/analysis the worse they got

frank rivet
arctic flax
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I rmbr watching all of bb,sopranos,the wire in the same month

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back to back peak

valid thunder
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Same month is crazy

raw gate
arctic flax
arctic flax
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Finished a lot of series that year

valid thunder
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When i watched sopranos i was obsessed for like 3 months. Just rewatching some episodes and reading analysis online.

arctic flax
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same time i was getting into anime too lol

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ill never forget that experience

valid thunder
#

I even watched the mid movie david chase made

arctic flax
#

few shows interest me anymore

arctic flax
valid thunder
arctic flax
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bit the slander for it is funny in the sooranos sub

valid thunder
#

Good shows are getting shorter and shorter

raw gate
arctic flax
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And forever to come out

arctic flax
#

and meaning to check out pluribus too

valid thunder
raw gate
#

Although I might be making that up

raw gate
#

Yeah, it wasn’t

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Wishful thinking on my end probably

valid thunder
#

Season 1 is kinda perfect

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As a self contained story

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Instead of an s2 they should cover another villain imo

raw gate
#

That’s true. I’d love to see Penguin and Batman in a film together as adversaries at least, though

valid thunder
#

True

limber urchin
#

Batman Returns???

raw gate
#

Oz has main movie antagonist potential and they wouldn’t even really need to do too much to establish his character

arctic flax
#

Were not getting back the days of shows like BB dropping seasons every year

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and with 10-13 eps

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Cuz movie actors are in most of shows now

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and streaming

limber urchin
#

kill me

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8 ep seasons.....

valid thunder
#

He should definitely be atleast one of the main villains of batman 2

arctic flax
valid thunder
#

Hes talking about penguin

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Colin farrell

arctic flax
#

oh thought he meant OZ hbo series

limber urchin
#

so did i looooool

valid thunder
#

Penguins name being oz is funny lowkey

limber urchin
#

it's Oswald Cobblepot?

arctic flax
#

2 letter names be cool

valid thunder
#

Thats his full name 😭

#

?

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Damn bro i would become a villain too if i was named that

near pewter
#

We are so back

white smelt
#

Thank you Trump

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šŸ™

worthy crypt
#

Oz is decent but mixed, some great moments some really stupid moments

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jk simmons plays a nazi

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also edie falco plays a prison guard, i didnt notice that till now having watched the sopranos

frank rivet
rich meadow
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I doubt he’ll be doing as many solo stunts lol

spiral quest
#

I like Rush Hour but idk who was wanting a 4th one

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We really live in an IP world

worthy crypt
#

movies are expensive to make, no one wants to lose a ton of money

spiral quest
#

Miss the era of mid budget movies

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Just give me some fun ideas that don't cost a ton to make

peak pilot
frank rivet
#

Date Movie šŸæ

spiral quest
#

I showed my gf some various American comedies from the era I grew up in

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She wasnt into em much lmao

frank rivet
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22 jump street

peak pilot
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Oathbringers ||who is the lady on the cover and the lady that is on the inside with special galaxy like clothes||

tawny parcel
sand cypress
valid thunder
#

Looks ai generated

sage remnant
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It doesn't???

modern lichen
tawny parcel
sage remnant
#

Wombat on Stormlight isn't good for my sanity

tawny parcel
#

THAT SNOT EVEN A CRAZY THING TO SAY

main lion
modern lichen
#

The more I think about Bugonia, the more perplexing it gets

sage remnant
copper phoenix
#

man... kate beckinsale been my celeb crush since forever and I thought nothing could hurt me again after I learned she dated pete davidson

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then I saw her latest interview

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I wanna jump into the sun

sage remnant
copper phoenix
modern lichen
valid thunder
spiral quest
#

She has CHANGED too holy damn

white smelt
sage remnant
#

Only WoT sub I am in is WetlanderHumor. Idc fanarts

tawny parcel
#

Fight club No fucking way

sage remnant
#

@sudden swift what manga do you like. I am gonna pick a book for you

sage remnant
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first book is ass but it's good after that

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Very shounen

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Plenty of OP and Naruto power references

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or if you want one single book that's super good

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and shounen feel

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Sword of Kaigen

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should work for a Bleach fan

sudden swift
main lion
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pretty bad barrier to entry

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lol

sage remnant
#

Its better than start of Bleach

sage remnant
#

if you want smth regulars of here have read, then Mistborn The Final Empire would also be a good start

sage remnant
# sage remnant

This would be really good tho @sudden swift one of my fav books of all time

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@sand cypress would also agree

foggy mirage
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Pluribus ep 5 is out

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Pluribus ep 5 ||my guess its dead bodies turned into powder which they refine into broth for nutrients. The color, feel, pH and everything points to human broth. Its likely how they all stay nutrient rich. There is no big farming since pesticide kills insects, they freed all animals and they dont kill for food. It's a pretty huge reveal after knowing it cam be reversed. Also the voice mail actor is howard from better call saul. A sneaky vince collaborative cameo with a better call saul characte.||

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Out early due to turkey day

foggy mirage
#

@frank rivet stop spoiling yourself

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😭

foggy mirage
#

Then pluribus

peak pilot
modern lichen
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@sage remnant is there no reread option in hardcover

wanton epoch
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I’m watching a movie

#

It’s so good

sage remnant
#

with the Dates Read

wanton epoch
#

Mlp eqg rainbow rocks

modern lichen
leaden depot
#

Done with 1967 stuff, how the comics stuff look rn

#

And the writers, interior artists and cover artists

frank rivet
sage remnant
#

he's reading/watching every medium other than books from earliest date to current

leaden depot
#

I'm crazy like that lol

#

I have heard good things about both Absolute and Fraction Batman tho... unlike Hush 2 lolll

leaden depot
sand cypress
modern lichen
#

richard linklater is the master of the chamber film

#

really liked blue moon even though i dont really know a lot about musical theatre or lorenz hart

#

also, ethan hawke is an extraordinary performer

leaden depot
#

idk what this is gonna be about but this promo page goes hard

#

It does remind me of this lol

leaden depot
leaden depot
limber urchin
#

"...we love you all....in a decent manly way, of course!" lmao

white smelt
#

Now shatner posts on 4chan

outer tulip
#

look at star wars trying to make a come back.. i'm here for it though

tawny parcel
#

Why does this poster look so weird

#

Idk how to describe it

raw gate
raw gate
tawny parcel
#

Yeah but why is it bad

raw gate
#

Low effort

valid thunder
#

Baby yoda looking into my soul

raw gate
#

Can’t click on any Twitter links with attachments without seeing a Charlie Kirk edit

white smelt
raw gate
# white smelt Is it back in stock??

Yeah, I picked it up last weekend during the Black Friday sales. This isn’t the super duper cool release with the box and everything, though

#

It’s just the case and discs

#

Twin Peaks / Fire Walk With Me

#

Would have picked this up in a heartbeat

spice folio
#

I’m about to watch a 4 hour movie

dark star
#

Besides endgame … or was that 3 hours ???

#

Close to four??

#

Idk šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

tawny parcel
#

Finished fight club

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Probably the most boring book I’ve read this year

#

Not gonna sit here and act like I understood every part of this book but even then i just found it boring

#

Probably gonna go to rhythm of war next so i can have my fantasy slop

limber urchin
#

Have you seen the film at least?

spice folio
#

from Edward Yang

tawny parcel
limber urchin
#

Oh. Maybe finish it.

#

I'm sure you like it better right?

tawny parcel
#

It was really late so I only remember bits and pieces

tawny parcel
#

Watching the Christmas card with my mom she loves this hallmark movie but its so badG5Laugh G5Laugh G5Laugh G5Laugh

#

I’ve seen this movie so many times

limber urchin
#

Hallmark Channel is just Christmasslop

tawny parcel
dark star
tawny parcel
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Rating all the books ive read this year from lowest to top
12. Fight Club 11/24-11/26
11. Project Hail Mary 8/21-8/29
10. The Shining 4/29-5/09
9. Intermezzo 10/28-10/31
8. A Dance With Dragons 3/20-4/28
7.Oathbringer 9/17-10/21
6. A Feast for Crows (I forgot to put the dates for this one when reading it)
5.The Way of Kings 8/01-8/18
4. 11/22/63 11/06-11/15
3. Words of Radiance 8/30-9/16
2. Fahrenheit 451 5/24-5/27

  1. A Storm of Swords 12/18-1/24
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Wrf

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Discord

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What did you do

#

Why did you fuck up my formatting

#

I dont jnow how to fix this its supposed to be from 12-1

#

So storm of swords at 1 and fight club at 12

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We peaked with the beginning of the year bravo martin

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I liked all the books i read tho except fight club which i felt nothing about

limber urchin
#

A Storm of Swords CrocoWine

worthy crypt
#

that numbering is very confusing

limber urchin
#

That's testament to how good it is, especially since you didn't watch the show.

worthy crypt
#

storm is the best one in the first round i feel like

#

dance is better on reread

#

but 13 years later dance has some biterness wen you see all the exciting setup

limber urchin
#

Dance ||Has Reek and Theon chapters, which are kind of my favorites in the series.||

tawny parcel
tawny parcel
#

Really love a feast for crows

#

Think it does such good character building

worthy crypt
#

Dance || Those chapters are great and its also good to give mereen the fully intrigue scrutiny that you would apply to agot. I think a lot of people on first read myself included, are just like ok ok whatever another person with a funy exotic name. But thinking about something like 'who poisoned the locusts' is so interesting. it 95% wasnt hizdar who goes down for it ||

limber urchin
#

I wouldn't be surprised if you ranked Feast low. i think it's the book that is least enjoyed by the general fan base.

tawny parcel
#

Dance ||my biggest issue with the book is probably funny enough some of tyrions chapters, he feels like he has way too many this book||

tawny parcel
limber urchin
tawny parcel
#

But yeah

#

I started reading with a game of thrones, then i got to a storm of swords and said holy hell

#

This reading shit is serious

#

Theres levels to this shit

worthy crypt
#

dance || probably the shavepate. And that perspective makes barristan's final chapters so good. Hes this noble easily manipulated fool. ned stark come again, being weilded by a manipulator to cause chaos and gain power ||

tawny parcel
#

Elite character

#

Dance ||don’t mess with an old man in a young man’s game BBWise ||

#

A dance with dragons could maybe go higher on a reread just a bit of it is a blur

limber urchin
#

Wombat, it's time for you to fall into the tinfoil ASOIAF pipeline

tawny parcel
#

I fell into it for a little bit after i finished it lol

worthy crypt
#

dance || but thats the brilliance of it it has the surface level awesome quality youre rooting him on this old veteran champion heroically avenging his betrayed queen. But if you look closely, thats not actually what's happening. Hes being used by the man who plotted agaisnt his queen to kill her husband ||

tawny parcel
#

Would watch theory videos and shit

worthy crypt
#

did u read the winds preview chapters like the forsaken?

tawny parcel
#

I haven’t, I’m just going to wait to see if the book comes out

#

If the book comes out, it comes out

worthy crypt
#

that chapter bums me out the most just so much potential for the future that i kinda doubt will ever be realized

limber urchin
#

I've listened to the Forsaken, but I've not read the others that were released

#

Yeah, the Forsaken is fucking brutal, I love it

tawny parcel
#

Dance|| also the dude from what is it, the reigon with the sisters, meeran??? I’m blanking on all the names. But that dudes chapters could have been cut except for a couple, the windblown was so boring lol. Although him dying is one of the best chapters in the book, writes the dragons like a horror book||

limber urchin
#

I know who you're talking about and I do kind of agree to an extent

#

Dance ||Was it Tristan Martel?||

tawny parcel
#

Oh yeah

#

Thats their name

limber urchin
#

there's so many damn characters to remember

tawny parcel
#

Dance ||the martells, what is the region they live in called||

#

Lmfao yeah

#

Georges character writing is his greatest strength though

limber urchin
#

imagine trying to remember every ASOIAF and every OP character. ViviPanic

limber urchin
tawny parcel
#

Oh ya

#

Man

#

You have a good memroy

limber urchin
#

No, I've just been listening to this series for 13 years

#

repetition

tawny parcel
#

A storm of swords ||has jamie and he’s top 5 character in fiction so ||

#

A storm of swords ||jamie and brienne 🄹 ||

#

Top 1 book

#

Especially reading it with my dad was awesome

#

Because we would be in the middle of it and start talking like wtf is going on 😭

limber urchin
#

Wait. Dance ||It might've been Quenyn Martel, not Tristan, who was burned by Dany's dragons. Or however the heck these names are spelled.||

tawny parcel
worthy crypt
#

Dance || I love the Quentin thread. A lot of people think it's useless but it's not. He thinks he's the hero, he's the main character on a great adventure so it's guaranteed to go well. But the first line of the first Quentin chapter is "the adventure stank". It was a boat called the adventure but his whole quest was just a bad stupid cursed idea from the very beginning ||

tawny parcel
#

Dance ||i get the idea, i just think its kinda boring im ngl||

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Or like, how he does it

limber urchin
tawny parcel
#

Dance ||no wait thats one of her cousins or nephew or something right||

limber urchin
#

yes Dance ||Lancel Lannister. But she also has a handmaid she sleeps with. And at least one guard, possibly a Kingsguard. ||

tawny parcel
#

But yeah fahrenheit 451 and Words of Radiance go in 2 and 3

#

Although part of me wants to put fahrenheit a tiny bit lower

#

Like I said I’ve liked every book I’ve read this year except fight club

limber urchin
#

Empire of the Dawn may have been my favorite books this year. But it could've easily been Words of Radiance, as well.

tawny parcel
#

Words of radiance is soooo good

limber urchin
#

WOR ||That whole final section is fucking awesome.||

#

however.....

tawny parcel
#

I think funny enough thats my least favoritr part of it G5Laugh

limber urchin
#

ROW ||I want to shoutout Raboniel as one of my all-time favorite villains.||

tawny parcel
#

Wor ||it just felt like too much even for sando||

#

At least while i was reading it

limber urchin
#

anime in book form

tawny parcel
#

And also wor|| i didnt care for eshonhai ||

limber urchin
#

I just loved WOR ||Finding the way to Urithiru. That whole fight and discovery was everything.||

limber urchin
#

Also

#

TWOK ||Nothing, I bet, for a long time is going to come close to this ending. No ending has ever made me feel the way this did.||

tawny parcel
#

Ya twok ||def has the best ending so far for me as well in the series||

limber urchin
sage remnant
#

For me, while TWOK ending is great and better than most stories/books, nothing would make me feel the height of emotions that OB ending and WaT ending made me feel

#

TWOK is good but like those two books benefit from earlier books already having done the setup and required character work and all

limber urchin
#

ooh yeah WAT ||The ending was the most intriguing. But I need to see the aftermath of it all before I truly have a solidified feeling on it all. It's so set-upy.||

sage remnant
#

I mean in the catharsis part itself

limber urchin
#

I still think my favorite singular moment in the series was Stormlight ||They came from another world. That still blows me away, and I fell for it, never saw it coming.||

sage remnant
#

WaT || Like Kaladinn's fifth ideal, Szeth's fifth ideal, EVERYTHING that Dalinar had from Ascending to Honor to renouncing his oaths to Szeth fighting with Nightblood to Nightblood going above his Intent to Kaladin being a Herald to even the callbacks ||

#

Shit made me cry like nothing else has lol

sage remnant
sage remnant
#

Buffy's message there is from OB

limber urchin
#

WAT ||Actually, I'm still kind of pissed about Kaladin's destination. But that's mostly because I love him most when he's fighting and not a therapist. I understand why he ended up where he did, but I do prefer him the other way. Maybe Harald Kaladin will blow me away. ||

tawny parcel
#

Gonna start rhythm tonight me thinks

sage remnant
#

WaT || Kaladin inventing Therapy is like one of my fav parts of the book ||

tawny parcel
#

Unless my friends ask me to play deadlock

sage remnant
#

WaT || Like the whole dialogue of him and Syl "It was a nice dream" at end of RoW part 2 when they had to get back to fighting because that's the only way they can now protect when they don't want to take up arms at all just makes me emotional ||

limber urchin
#

WAT ||LETSBUGGINGGO LETSBUGGINGGO LETSBUGGINGGO LETSBUGGINGGO LETSBUGGINGGO It was sooooooooo good.||

#

you need to get to Wind and Truth, Wombat. Holy shit there are so many good things about it

tawny parcel
#

I’ve heard

#

Things about it

#

Its a divisive book is what i hear

limber urchin
limber urchin
sage remnant
limber urchin
#

Feast is a divisive book. But it's still great all around.

sage remnant
#

Probably 1 or 2 legitimate complaints

#

But rest are just stupid

white smelt
#

PTA and Fortnite??

sage remnant
#
  1. Mistborn secret History. 4.99999/5
  2. Way Station. 4.5/5
  3. One Day All this will be Yours 4.5/5
  4. Well of Ascension. 4.25/5
  5. The Big 4 4/5
  6. The Final Empire reread 3.75/5
  7. Elric of Melnibone: 3.5/5
  8. Quicksilver: 3.5/5
  9. Tress of Emerald Sea: 3/5
  10. Hero of Ages: 0.5/5
  11. How to Retire at 35: Eh
  12. Think and Grow Rich: Eh
#

Same number. Thank god

tawny parcel
#

I mog you

#

AND IM knocking out rhythm of war easy LucciBusiness

sage remnant
tawny parcel
#

Size matters

sage remnant
young compass
rich meadow
#

He wants to retire at 35

#

So he has more time for fantasy slop

worthy crypt
#

Its a little old and recommends a slow/boring approach but the little book of common sense investing is probably the best money book. Obviously this isnt financial advice live your own life dont at me if things dont work out for you but over a decade or so the approach described has been positive for me

sand cypress
#

That hero of ages rating is diabolical

#

And incorrect

sage remnant
sage remnant
#

I just decided due to something I don't remember what

sage remnant
sage remnant
#

yeah I won't at you at that lol

sage remnant
#

so that .00001 is for forgetting that line exists

near echo
#

Watched yellow submarine

#

Idk if it's because of my apathy towards the band or the shitty impersonators doing the voices but I could not tell which beatle was which for half the movies run lol

modest canyon
sage remnant
#

Sadly I don't like Cosmere slop like y'all 😌

#

It is a burden, having great taste

sage remnant
#

I like it but I like a lot of stuff more

modest canyon
#

Happy for you

sage remnant
#

Don't be

modest canyon
#

Why not 😭

sage remnant
#

Idk. I don't enjoy people coming on randomly attacking on taste without having given me any good convo at all BrookShrug

modest canyon
#

Goro I think we've had a billion convos

#

And I was joking

sage remnant
modest canyon
#

See, you always dish it and can never take it

sage remnant
#

Sure

#

idrc

#

Happy for you tho

modest canyon
#

You dont have to, just dont be a sanctimonous salty sally

sage remnant
#

Idk. When someone doesn't get salty most of the time and gets with someone, you could figure out the context BrookShrug

modest canyon
#

Idk. When someone constantly shits on other opinions and cries like a baby receiving shit for their opinion, you can figure out the rest

sage remnant
#

I haven't shit on your opinion tho?

modest canyon
#

LOL

#

Aight you got it

sage remnant
#

I did on Keater's

#

Last time when he was here

#

I just don't remember any convo between us other than like in os and those were years ago

#

I talk books with Azua regularly so I shit on his and he shit on my taste. Same with plenty others

#

I don't think I have ever shat on any of your opinion. I don't even have many things I dislike to do that lol

#

CSM, OP live action, Hero of Ages, Tress, Reckoners, Dresden files

That's the exhaustive list of things I dislike. G5Laugh

modest canyon
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I do shit on OPLA but I don't think I have done that to people

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lemme check in history once I get to a PC. I gotta be thorough

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Currently walking

modest canyon
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Fine OPLA wasn't as bad as I remember

spiral quest
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I didnt enjoy OPLA

sage remnant
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I am not sure why people seem to adore it, but that's how the cookie crumbles

sage remnant
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I just can't agree, but if ya enjoyed it that's cool

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I would have liked it if I wasn't a fan of OP already

modest canyon
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Sabble discovers different tastes today

spiral quest
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How so?

near echo
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Season 1s final episode is really bad but it was edited during the writers strike and the director didn't even see the final version until it was too late cuz he was part of it

sage remnant
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Also Sab haven't had the chance to get update on you since Life lifed

What's the status on your WiP?

near echo
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I hope S2 is more consistent

modest canyon
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Agreed

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I found it very campy and charming

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Could be much better

spiral quest
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WiP is still working, but I am happy with the progress. I've begun weaving in some Navajo myth inspirations

spiral quest
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No matter the set design, the costume work

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It all looks like cosplay to me

modest canyon
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Happy for you, or sorry that happened

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Thanks friendo

modest canyon
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LA Death Note is one of the worst things I've ever watched yet I enjoy it

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I like to see adaptations

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Mostly movies tho

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I mean I am not gonna say adaptations shouldn't exist

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I just think anime adaptations aren't for me

modest canyon
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Fairs

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It's great that series gets more recognition and I am glad that of the live action adaptations out there, OP's is seen as good

modest canyon
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I just think OPLA is likely the only way most of the people in my life will ever consume One Piece

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Yeah and I can say that's cool as hell

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Because it means more OP fans and I am not gonna hate that

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I am just super picky on stuff. And it's not just anime, for example the Witcher adaptation irritates me

modest canyon
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My dad likes Witcher show

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I never liked it

spiral quest
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I can see why people would like it but I love the books and the games, so the show left me really dissatisfied

modest canyon
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But thats mostly because it very much felt like Andrej's vision for the books come to life simply did not exist lol

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They were like

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No they def did not make that happen

modest canyon
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"What can make us money"

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They changed so many things the original stories lose their original meanings and sometimes don't make sense

modest canyon
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OPLA at least I know they're trying to be faithful to Oda's vision because they consult with Oda all the time

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They reshot a lot of S1 scenes bc Oda hated that shit UsoppLmfao

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I am curious what the original shoots were like

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Wonder if they were like Cowboy Bebop LA bad

modest canyon
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I highly doubt Oda would make them reshoot it if it was passable

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I feel like it was, in fact, CBLA levels of bad originally

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I really wanna see those originals. Never will but

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Man imagine

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There's probably peak comedy in there

modest canyon
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Would be a fun thing to watch as a blooper reel or "forbidden" cut

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And they do have a Herculean task

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If I was in charge of it and Oda hated it to the point of telling me to reshoot a bunch of stuff I think I would commit seppuku 😭

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I still think signing up to do a live action of One Piece wasn't the best idea. Even if season 1 was successful they are going to have to do Chopper and shit now

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I dont even want to know how Franky is gonna work

modest canyon
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Chopper actually looks okay

spiral quest
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I saw some of Chopper. Not bad

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They didnt original sonic it

modest canyon
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Thank god

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And got a legitimate voice actress to play him too

spiral quest
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Its the eyes

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Always the eyes...

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So terrible lmao

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But yeh Chopper didn't turn out too bad

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I hope for good things for people who like OPLA

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My mom and youngest sister watched s1 with me and said they will watch s2 with me BBPieSmile

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That's what's upp bud

modest canyon
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Yesssssss

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Thats why I will always be on the front lines of the OPLA defense

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I tried getting my gf to watch both the anime and LA. She didnt like either lmao

modest canyon
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Oh I forced my gf to read the colored manga

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Only way I could get her to do it

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I tried everything, just nothing clicked

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Her favorite manga ever is Tokyo Ghoul

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She hates the anime tho