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twilit yarrow
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thx

sour solstice
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I’ll just use it to fall asleep tonight

timber remnant
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Yeah once he drew Oden

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He became just completely irredeemable I feel

twilit yarrow
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when do you expect Weevil to make his move

south salmon
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eighty times, everyone

gaunt nacelle
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80

proper solar
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Totally forgot Weevil was a character ngl

real flare
timber remnant
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I just don't see it happening

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Orochi and Kanjuro have done way too much shit

proper solar
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I'm mainly wondering what CP0's move is here

timber remnant
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lol

gaunt nacelle
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Croc Redeemed?

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mEH

proper solar
timber remnant
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Not redeemed, just not where they used to be narratively

meager dew
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A bit off topic, but it would be really nice to have a nice Kurozumi to ''redeem'' the clan, considering the reason Orochi and Kanjuro are that way is because of the persecution they suffered.

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Too bad there doesn't seem to be one

kindred oriole
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wait when was this a thing

meager dew
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A few weeks

kindred oriole
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That's actually nice

timber remnant
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I mean it could still happen

upbeat sand
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The podcast has been around since 990s

kindred oriole
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Didn't know that Discord does this now

proper solar
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One Piece podcasts peepoClap

upbeat sand
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But this started when the new feature was added

timber remnant
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I just don't know cause they always put Kanjuro and Orochi in a bad light 100% of the time so

kindred oriole
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Ah

upbeat sand
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So people can join in besides mods

meager dew
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At the end of the day I guess the Kurozumi are eternally in the mud

timber remnant
upbeat sand
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Take care lads

dark scroll
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Is it normal for that one guy to be doing all the talking?

sour solstice
cunning ingot
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he's defending a point

timber remnant
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lol

dark scroll
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hes talking over the others 😦

meager dew
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Nah

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He just wants to make a point

signal wadi
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Sounds pretty even and fair to me

gaunt nacelle
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Reds Rants Section

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jk

dark scroll
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oh if its normal than ok

gaunt nacelle
cunning ingot
dark scroll
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my first time listening

dark scroll
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Kanjuro was a victim to an extent

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He coulda lived a great life as Oden's retainer

signal wadi
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Momo was a victim of Kanjuro KumaPause

meager dew
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@surreal yoke You mean like to be himself?

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Instead of playing an act?

surreal yoke
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yeah pretty much, he says in 1008 that he's going to die as Kurozumi Kanjuro is, but in 974 we see him with Orochi manipulating as a formless blob manipulated into this character

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that's not actually necessarily what the true Kurozumi Kanjuro is or could have been

gaunt nacelle
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So is the debate that Kanjuro should have a moment of redemption or that he shouldn't?

summer turtle
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it says 'exit quietly' but is there an 'exit noisily' option?

cunning ingot
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unfortunately not :(

summer turtle
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jk lol

timber remnant
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I don't think we have time for Kanjuro stuff in the Wano Arc

rough flint
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if what red/evan says happens

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it will make the arc worse

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if what choc/bean says happens, i'd feel the same

cunning ingot
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everyone is wrong and I am right

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tl;dr

timber jolt
meager dew
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I understand what they are saying

gaunt nacelle
south salmon
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good talk guys

meager dew
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Just seems hard to word it

south salmon
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thanks for talky

rough flint
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i've just been browsing rightstuf for half an hour

tired copper
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Bye 🙂

signal wadi
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Do you guys have a set day for these?

timber jolt
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This podcast helped me get a lot of work done

gaunt nacelle
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So these podcast are random or is there a schedule?

meager dew
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Every sunday after a chapter release

gaunt nacelle
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Siick

surreal yoke
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My bad for bringing up fucking Kanjuro again LUL

subtle trellis
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we missed last weeks so we did two this time

meager dew
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Though there might be some changes

cunning ingot
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Thanks for coming y'all

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was fun, hope you enjoyed

gaunt nacelle
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Sweet ted talk bois

surreal yoke
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twas fun

signal wadi
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I remember you did one on Monday too that's why I ask. So Sunday is the for sure time?

fleet goblet
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I was very tempted to go hard into explaining the blackbeard stuff but I didn't. maybe another time.

surreal yoke
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thanks for letting me come on

subtle trellis
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the blackbeardd stuff you can save for when she actually leaves CrocoStare @fleet goblet

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thatll be a fun convo

fleet goblet
surreal yoke
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***IF *** she leaves this raid, which I don't think will happen whatsoever, give her to BB

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I'm for that if that happens

timber jolt
surreal yoke
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would rather BB fuck her up than for her to just go to Elbaf for Luffy to punch again

fleet goblet
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well it also ties into why I think she is leaving.

subtle trellis
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give her to ma D monk amirite XDXDXDXD

surreal yoke
signal wadi
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Gonna be hard to leave when Kid puts her six feet under UsoppSus

fleet goblet
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which is more than just the kaido stuff, it's also about the narrative parallels between luffy, law and kid.

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but I'm gonna wait and see what happens the next few chapters.

surreal yoke
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Also heavily depends on where BB headed ig and how long that will take

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He did leave like a week or two ago

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so maybe that's already wrapped up

fleet goblet
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nah that's irrelevant to me. Because I think SHs are staying on Wano for a few weeks after the raid. and I think during that time, BB beats BM.

surreal yoke
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oh right

rough flint
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Then we actually have BB making progress to be pirate king

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rather than like waiting at fucking lodestar to steal 4 from the strawhats

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that would be the most unsatisfying shit

meager dew
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That'd actually be fun as hell

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All bias aside even

rough flint
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No, no it wouldn’t be

fleet goblet
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Currently, no one knows Luffy has any poneglyphs, so I don't see why BB would wait for Luffy specifically.

rough flint
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Id have to start comparing one piece’s final arcs to Naruto at that point if that happened

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That’s how mad I would be

meager dew
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It's all but fate Crocomm

surreal yoke
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I believe BB can read the language himself anyway

fleet goblet
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same

surreal yoke
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So I don't think he just steals off of Luffy's work

rough flint
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He’d still need the glyphs Evan

surreal yoke
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He already said he doesn't think Luffy is ready to be a yonko

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Kind of looking down on him

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If his whole plan revolved around waiting for Luffy to progress then stealing off of that

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He would be actively more invested in Luffy's journey and making sure everything fell into place

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But he probably thinks Luffy and the other novas are going to die to Kaido and BM in Wano anyway

rough flint
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Good. Even more reason for you to agree with us that BM doesn’t go down in wano CrocoStare

surreal yoke
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how

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Mama goin down

fleet goblet
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anyway, I'm gonna go back to the one-upping narrative, and even if BB has Pluton or w/e, sure it makes him a bigger threat than Luffy, but it's not one-upping him. If Luffy is responsible for beating an Emperor, Blackbeard will be responsible for beating another, but even easier than Luffy did. And Shanks has more long term narrative importance than BM, so naturally, BB would beat BM.

rough flint
surreal yoke
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Yeah I'm for that if BM leaves, but I don't think she does

subtle trellis
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If anything I think bb feels a bit of kinship for luffy, and will believe hed come out on top if he found out about him taking on kaido

rough flint
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Theoretically let’s say BM steals the wano glyph. That means BB and Luffy confrontation has to happen. Which it should because I can’t imagine BB somehow getting the wano or Zou glyph otherwise

surreal yoke
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I'll have to see what BB is even doing before believing BB is ridiculously far behind Luffy because he doesn't have any road glyphs

rough flint
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I mean if Bm doesn’t leave with the wano glyph , he is ridiculously behind

surreal yoke
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I think similarly to CP0, BB doesn't think the novas will win

rough flint
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Luffy will have 3, and BB will have 0. He gets 1 if he attacks BM’s territory but that would be unsatisfying to likely use pluton’s debut in a yonko-less territory

surreal yoke
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And if they do, it just ties in to his whole fate thing

fleet goblet
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If BB doesn't attack BM, at best he has 1, and Luffy has 3, which is like... okay. I guess. At worst, he has 0, Luffy has 3, which is just bad

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If BM leaves, takes Kaido's glyph, BB attacks, Luffy has 2 (Zou and WCI, none from Wano since BM takes the entire glyph, not just a rubbing) and BB would have 2, maybe 3.

rapid lake
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noo I missed it CB_waah

surreal yoke
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We know BB sends people out to do things, like he did for Burgess to get the mera mera no mi. He very well could have offscreen sent groups of his commanders to WCI and Zou maybe?? I don't think it's likely idk, but BB is the type of character who I doubt will be at a complete disadvantage and far behind and is just going to last minute steal off Luffy and that's been his plan the entire time. There's something that will give him an advantage

fleet goblet
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and I think the narrative weight of Kid, Law and Luffy teaming up to beat Kaido has resurfaced with Luffy losing to Kaido.

rough flint
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Bb is never getting the Zou glyph. Period

signal wadi
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I like the idea of BB taking her down and catching up to Luffy in terms of poneglyphs. I also want to see her lose to Law and Kid though so they can keep up with Luffy, but I guess that's offset by them meeting up to take down Kaido. I think that was the crux of your theory, right choc? Sabaody trio vs Kaido OrochiScheme

surreal yoke
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Stealing off Luffy is just so cheap and would imply that they fight before even reaching Laugh Tale

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Which is possible ig

rough flint
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If he gets it, it’s gonna be because the Blackbeard pirates and Strawhats have a confrontation.

fleet goblet
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Yeah. I think they might do something to BM, but not enough to beat her

signal wadi
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Oh you just posted it lol

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I like the way that would play out tbh

surreal yoke
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Still think Luffy and Yamato will defeat Kaido together, not confident that anyone else goes up

rough flint
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But yeah, BB is just never getting the Zou glyph unless he steals from the strawhats anyway

surreal yoke
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But after this chapter, I'm probably wrong about that as well

fleet goblet
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so evan, you don't think Kaido will confront BM again in this arc?

rough flint
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I’d be okay with stealing 2 glyphs from a straight-up confrontation but not all 4 lmao

surreal yoke
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I'm starting to think they will at this point aghhh, I just don't know

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My head is being fucked with

rough flint
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Well Kaido either does significant damage to BM, or she leaves. You practically have to accept it at this point.

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Unless a wild fujitora appears.

fleet goblet
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That's what happened to me lol. I got absorbed in Kid + Law vs BM between 1010-1012, but this chapter flipped my switch again.

signal wadi
fleet goblet
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Luffy losing like that wasn't in my predictions.

surreal yoke
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Yeah she can't do anything to Kaido 1v1 lol

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Her going up is just to stall and trigger the flashback

rough flint
fleet goblet
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I thought Yamato would come up while Luffy was fighting Kaido, they'd team up and beat him, while Kid and Law team up with the help of some beast pirates, and beat BM.

surreal yoke
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And Luffy losing also has opened up the now likely possibility that Kid and Law lose this confrontation with her as well

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ffs I just CAN'T predict this fucking arc anymore

rough flint
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Well I thought Luffy going down was obvious, but I can’t predict whether he’ll have a “run out of haki” moment and people stall again like dressrosa or if he’ll be able to do it in one gear 4 use

sour solstice
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Kid and law deserve to take down BM

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That’s ideal

fleet goblet
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Yamato coming up AFTER Luffy has already lost? Wild. didn't see it coming. I expected him to hold on for quite a bit.

surreal yoke
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I didn't think he'd lose. I thought he'd start to lose then that's when Yamato shows up

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But he lost literally 2 chapters later

rough flint
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I didn’t predict Luffy being knocked off onigashima tho Crydo

fleet goblet
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Kid and Law deserve to take down BM provided Luffy is the main person who takes down Kaido. Which I don't think is going to be the case anymore.

surreal yoke
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But Luffy being knocked off makes me think the final fight could take place in the flower capital itself, or over it

fleet goblet
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I think by the time Luffy even gets back up to Onigashima, Kaido would've recovered from the roof fight.

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aside from Zoro's scar

surreal yoke
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And damn, I still want Zoro's wound on Kaido to be brought up again

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Like seriously hinder Kaido

fleet goblet
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Yeah.

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I really want to see HOW Luffy lost. A lot of this hinges on it. Like, in what way was Luffy cocky? Was he cocky simply for thinking he could win? Or was he fighting like a retard because he got a new powerup? I hope it's not the latter.

signal wadi
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Have we gotten a good look at it since?

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The scar I mean

fleet goblet
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doesn't seem like it

rough flint
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Prediction:

Kid and Law get their power-up moment, show off against BM, lose. Knocked unconscious, dragged to the roof. Yamato has already lost and is writhing on the ground. BM and Kaido have a confrontation where they damage each other. BM gets the poneglyph location out of Kaido and leaves. Luffy comes back up. Kid and law wake up, and they start fighting Kaido. Eventually law/kid are knocked out of the fight, and Yamato joins. They finish off Kaido together.

The end.

fleet goblet
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Luffy doesn't really have a history of doing that, right? Every new powerup, it's not like he's cocky about it? Maybe with Blueno? But that was after fighting in his base and had a good idea of how strong Blueno was.

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Walking past Kaido in ch. 1000? Does that come across as cocky? Thonk

rough flint
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When he blows up the tree he’s like “just you wait Kaido”

surreal yoke
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Could you view coming back to face Katakuri as cocky?

sour solstice
rough flint
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Yeah

subtle trellis
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Adam I thought you agreed Yamato was meeting kaido up top now, not later. Shes already on her way, why would it take those likely multiple hours before luffy shows back up for her to get there? @rough flint

fleet goblet
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right, but in a fight itself, after using a new power. He does come across as cocky in first encounters, like with croc, but when he started using water, was he really cocky about it? Or arrogant? Was he ever fighting worse than he normally would?

surreal yoke
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Yeah I just don't see her leaving either. She's so locked into this raid now by betraying the beast pirates, trying to kill Tama, and Kid matchup where both parties are gunning for each other

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I don't think she leaves

fleet goblet
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'cause my whole thing hinges on Luffy realizing his power isn't enough and he needs help. If it's literally just "I had a bad attitude when fighting, and that's why I lost" then I think BM IS going down in Wano. To Kid and Law.

rough flint
subtle trellis
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ah thought you were the oone that said that, mb

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guess it was bean or fats

signal wadi
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I don't see why she wouldn't just kill them right after knocking them out. Why drag them up to the roof?

surreal yoke
rough flint
fleet goblet
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yeah. That's what I think, but I've seen a lot of people say "he will come back with a better attitude, and beat kaido"

signal wadi
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Wouldn't that only work if they were scared or is that only the life thing

sour solstice
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I think I like the idea of BM fighting law and kid and others for a bit, maybe knocking them out. Then kaido comes down and meets with BM, confrontation ensues, but maybe Yamato and/or luffy arrive to fight kaido, and kid and law resume their fight against BM and win

surreal yoke
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I think he HAS to come back with a better approach rather than "I'll hit Kaido harder than he hits me", because that's just impossible. But it's been made clear after this chapter that he can't win by himself

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Like that's just not happening

fleet goblet
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like, Luffy only lost because he got cocky and started fighting poorly. But I think it was more that he got cocky because he thought he could win solo.

rough flint
surreal yoke
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And he was just way too in over his head

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Not that he got complacent

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Just that he believed something he shouldn't have to begin with

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Because this is Kaido

fleet goblet
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which to me, means he needs help. Some kind of help. Whether it's just Yamato, or the other 2 supernova captains, or both. I think those are the 3 main scenarios in which Kaido can be defeated here.

rough flint
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Choc. You should just agree with my exact prediction then OrochiScheme

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If I had to give any reasoning for my logic. Assume we have tiers that are equally separated.

fleet goblet
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I don't agree wholly, but I think that's a possibility. My only contention is same as Wanze's.

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I think it's more likely Kaido comes down, Kaido, Kid and Law in a melee vs BM. BM gets annoyed because she's getting ganged up on and ragdolled. Leaves, takes the poneglyph. Luffy shows up to the roof, sees Yamato who probably lost because she tried to fight Kaido solo, then both of them go down, where Kid and Law are dealing with Kaido for a bit

rough flint
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Kaido and Bm would be S+. I’d put Luffy as A and A+ after his next Powed-up. I’d put law and Kid as C- and probably B- or B after their respective power-ups.
Just to put into perspective why I can’t see Kid and Law winning.

Honestly BM/Kaido might have to be SS+

subtle trellis
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Jeez

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Law and kid disrespect

rough flint
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I mean, g4 with his current haki I think he’d beat kid and law in 5 minutes

fleet goblet
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I think I'm going to ride on Kid getting awakening because he constantly uses his DF, so he might do some funky stuff.

subtle trellis
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Haha I get it

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Funky

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🎸

fleet goblet
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punky stuff

surreal yoke
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Cringe powerscaling Adam

rough flint
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It’s the true powerscaling

surreal yoke
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I just want to know if Luffy went G4 vs Kaido this time

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If the fight was 30+ minutes

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You'd assume so

rough flint
fleet goblet
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I think that might fall into why he got cocky.

rough flint
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I mean some people really think Jack never used hybrid after fighting for 5 days

fleet goblet
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used G4 + CoC, ran out of haki super quick, destroyed by Kaido immediately afterwards.

rough flint
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So maybe Luffy didn’t use gear 4

fleet goblet
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and that can tie into why Kaido got excited. G4 + CoC would no doubt be the strongest stuff Luffy has pulled.

surreal yoke
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I'd hope he used G4, because him not using it is basically arrogantly believing he could handle Kaido without using his strongest form

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Which would actually be retarded overconfidence

rough flint
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Kid and Law have to earn their spots. They sadly ain’t protagonists.

fleet goblet
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I want to see BM try and do an Ikoku and Kid just stops Napoleon.

rough flint
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I’d still put pre-udon Luffy over kid and law. And then Luffy powered up after Udon and on the roof

fleet goblet
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like, not with a giant arm, just with his magnetism

signal wadi
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BM trying to zap them and genius Kid places lightning rods around the arena to attract her attacks and nullify hera crocoKidd

fleet goblet
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and then we finally get the box on Kid and the name of his DF

surreal yoke
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I want to see more magnetism stuff

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like not just making constructs with it

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and then hitting hard with those

rough flint
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Kid please show off so I have a reason to like you more NamiPray

fleet goblet
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When is Kid going to use iron sand? grief

rough flint
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When he changes universes

fleet goblet
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and becomes a 15 yr old girl

rough flint
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That wasn’t even the universe I meant but that works

surreal yoke
sour solstice
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I’ve had this reoccurring dream where kid uses his magnetism to push a spear of metal so hard that it breaks the sound barrier and pierces big mom’s skin with pure raw force

fleet goblet
sour solstice
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I also want kid to use his metal to stand on and just fly the hell around

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Fuck I’m so excited for kid

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This BM fight is so exciting to me

fleet goblet
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Railguns use magnetic fields created by high electrical currents to accelerate a projectile to Mach 6, or 5,400 miles an hour.

sour solstice
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Mach 6.......

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Wait that’s way beyond the speed of sound

fleet goblet
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yes. it's 6 times the speed of sound lol

sour solstice
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Kid managing to penetrate through Big mom’s defense on his devil fruit mastery rather than some new haki type sounds so good

fleet goblet
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that's what I'm hoping for.

sour solstice
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As much as I want cocting for him, I’d rather have awakening right now

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Cocting later maybe

fleet goblet
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I said it with the roof fight. Both Luffy and Kid got completely dicked on by Kaido. Luffy went the route of learning some new type of haki that'd allow him to break through Kaido's defence, while Kid thought of different ways to use his DF to break through kaido's defence. Same conclusion, different methods.

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Kid is definitely more DF focused compared to Luffy

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so him using awakening or new application of his DF would be good here. and yeah, CoCting the next time we see him after he learns it's possible seeing Luffy do it.

sour solstice
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The main thing I’m concerned about is that kid and get thrown around and after this arc the whole rivalry between kid and luffy will be out the window, and the new generation pretty much becomes the Luffy Generation

fleet goblet
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yeah. I don't think Oda will go that route though. I think we've had too much focus on Law and Kid for them to just be chucked under the bus and Luffy to just become the single greatest pirate in his generation with 0 competition.

sour solstice
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I can’t figure what kind of powerup law might get though

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I’ve got no earthly idea what an awakening for him could be, a new type of haki doesn’t seem to fit him, I think he might just make up a new move

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I want an Anesthesia Shot move from law, where he paralyzes the enemy temporarily

fleet goblet
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I think Law is always going to be strategic, so he's probably going to try and figure out the underlying reason behind BM's toughness and try and exploit it. It's why previously, I expected Law to be the one to point out that Kaido's scar represent a weaker area of skin and it should be where they attack.

sour solstice
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If law had taken Hawkins’s heart I’d have believed he were smart enough for that

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😔

fleet goblet
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there's still a possibility NamiPray

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Hawkins could just be banking on not meeting up with Law

sour solstice
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If his heart were taken and Hawkins and killer join law and kid in the fight, that’s a pretty major boost to their odds of success

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Kid, Law, Killer, Hawkins, and Brook VS BM is my dream match

fleet goblet
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heart was taken, but Law hasn't had a reason to use it as leverage since he hasn't ran into Hawkins yet.

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Like when they had Caesar's heart, he tried to defy them, but since it was in plain view, they just squeezed the heart and he had no choice.

sly zephyr
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tyty, will check it out later

sudden current
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!avatar Mero#9704

gaunt pollenBOT
sudden current
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Nice

sour temple
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sheesh

sinful oak
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!avatar DarkSkillz#0594

gaunt pollenBOT
lethal sonnet
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thats a dope pic actually, but marco doge is better

sour solstice
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!notreading

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😢

mint hound
compact ginkgo
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@ocean acorn basically that he's either a dragon who ate a human fruit or something like that or that he's part of a race who can transform into dragons like many people thought that the Numbers were part of that race with their horns etc

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Its still possible that he's not human though

ocean acorn
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but saying that tiers 3 forms doesnt seem like it would be a spoiler

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but ok

compact ginkgo
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it is

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ur confirming that he has 3 forms lmao

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in the anime there's only 2 rn

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  • confirming that he has a zoan
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which isnt known rn in the anime

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obvious or not

ocean acorn
compact ginkgo
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saying that he has more than 2 forms, unless its an anime only theory, is a spoiler, it's like saying to someone who hasnt reached Dressrosa that Luffy will have Gear 4 lmao

ocean acorn
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wait

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im moving this to manga discussion

compact ginkgo
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this is manga

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oh

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okay there

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yes

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sup

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np

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but saying theres 4, and showing Gear 4 to an anime only is spoiler lol

compact ginkgo
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it doesnt matter Hypno cuz its not confirmed that he has a DF

paper seal
compact ginkgo
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it is ambiguous cuz he was mentioned to be a creature

meager dew
compact ginkgo
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so saying that he has a DF is a spoiler

meager dew
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his race?

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king

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fire

compact ginkgo
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it was really like discussions lol, like I've had many discussions about it and people really were theorizing if he had a DF or not

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yeh

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anyway whats ur thoughts on latest chapter(s)

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ur mic is cutting

meager dew
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kid saving the day

gritty wagon
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zeus :(

compact ginkgo
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poor zeus

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i hope he doesnt die

meager dew
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dont

compact ginkgo
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thats the only time i hope a character whos supposed to die dont actually die

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godzilla reference ?

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i missed it

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ohhh

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true

meager dew
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same

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friendship over

compact ginkgo
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who do u think will find Luffy

meager dew
#

yamato

compact ginkgo
#

i think Hiyori

#

who would heal him like she did with the scabbards

real flare
#

magic radar

compact ginkgo
#

yeah

real flare
#

vroom vroom

#

get out me sights

gritty wagon
#

i think he's gonna actually fall

compact ginkgo
#

law is inside

meager dew
#

no one is in the sub tho

gritty wagon
#

then get caught by that octopus B)

#

not my idea but i liked it

compact ginkgo
#

whos in the submarine rn

meager dew
#

his crew is on land

gritty wagon
#

didn't even think about the sub

compact ginkgo
#

yeah havent them set foot

#

ah, i dont remember lol

gritty wagon
#

i want him to save luffy

compact ginkgo
#

sry i wasnt following lmao

gritty wagon
#

unironically

meager dew
#

its not canon tho

#

but it wouldnt work like that

#

because his thing is magents

compact ginkgo
#

he made a bird

meager dew
#

all of that is just him putting metal together

#

with magents

#

he aint got much

#

i agree

#

what sword

#

the one you drew on our collab?

compact ginkgo
#

what if its plastic

gritty wagon
#

plastic sword lmao

compact ginkgo
#

like a Kaido toy lmao

meager dew
#

google says no

compact ginkgo
#

i swear Kid finds metal everywhere

#

yeah

#

else itd be boring

meager dew
#

hawkins wont win

gritty wagon
#

we'll get hawkins vs killer before whos who vs jinbe

meager dew
#

damn

#

whos who

compact ginkgo
#

alright see ya have fun drawing

#

whos whos who

gritty wagon
#

i gotta dip too

#

and i like how the drawing's coming out so far FrankyThumbsUp

gray elm
#

!mamalogic

rich marlin
#

how many manga chapters are out

timber jolt
#

1013

iron pelican
#

!wanomap

iron pelican
#

!thebeans

iron pelican
#

!spill

iron pelican
#

!bean

iron pelican
#

!bean2

#

!huff

iron pelican
#

!huffman

iron pelican
#

!sunnachi

#

!sunacchi

surreal yoke
#

@gloomy geyser the mods host a live podcast type thing when new chapters drop here on discord with the new feature

gloomy geyser
#

Is there a way to listen to it afterwards

surreal yoke
#

it's on youtube yeah

#

gimme a sec

left sandal
#

!huff

left sandal
#

!huffman

rough flint
#

!oda

rough flint
#

!hack

rain dragon
#

!hemanth

#

!hack

wise comet
#

!sunachii

#

Huh

#

!sunacchi

wise comet
#

!body

gaunt pollenBOT
#

WHERE THE BODY AT THO?

wise comet
#

@warm sparrow this command should be on the manga spoiler commands

warm sparrow
#

Not really

#

This happens every time a character "dies"

surreal yoke
#

what's good

vocal echo
#

shut

surreal yoke
#

joe

vocal echo
#

is

surreal yoke
#

we lost today

vocal echo
#

can’t listen in rn, enjoy people

#

And good luck, Adam.

meager dew
#

Wish i could listen in Crydo Crydo Crydo

gentle ledge
#

this place is complete and utter trash, you won't be hearing from me anymore @rough flint is a wreck

rough flint
surreal yoke
#

LOL

#

cringe theory

meager dew
#

She'll join Kid

#

:)

surreal yoke
#

I'll be seething

sour solstice
#

Who’s who, ulti and page one will all join kidd

limber palm
#

Law cucking luffy with yamato will be a bigger loss than falling into the ocean

flat drift
#

Adam being wrong, like usual

#

Gottem

surreal yoke
#

calling yourself wrong?

#

bit weird

flat drift
#

I am Pasta

vocal echo
#

Probe it

flat drift
#

Not Adam

vocal echo
#

I mean

sour solstice
#

Same color

#

Same person

vocal echo
#

prove it

flat drift
#

"Probe it"

vocal echo
flat drift
#

smh fleeb

tired copper
#

Pasta rigging again?

flat drift
#

No, fool

#

I do not rig

gilded frost
#

ok

limber palm
#

The recent chapters are making me reconsider morj's theory

#

although I don't like it still

limber palm
#

Since the previously set up matchups will all be for nothing

#

If the raid fails

#

E.g. Robin and brook vs black Maria

surreal yoke
#

I think he could be referring to these people

#

I very much doubt he read Oden's journal

#

If he found out Yamato had it, he'd confiscate it

sour solstice
#

Maybe she hid it

surreal yoke
#

yeah but if Kaido ever got a hold of it, he'd never give it back

sterile surge
#

maybe the octopus is joyboy

sour solstice
#

Oh I don’t think he read it

#

I reckon he might know if it’s existence tho

fleet goblet
#

My take is that Kaido knows about Joyboy through Xebec.

#

I do not think Kaido is comparing Luffy to Xebec or Oden or anyone else, I think it's what... idr who said it. but that "Joyboy" is the Pirate King. So Luffy couldn't become the PK

#

could be the case.

meager dew
#

Opening up Wano i guess

#

Yeah I think that fits his idea of dying a glorious death too

#

yep

fleet goblet
#

bong wong

robust hound
#

Why is huang pronounced fang

surreal yoke
#

bong wrong

subtle trellis
#

bon chan

robust hound
#

Like fong

rough flint
#

KingShrug my teacher always pronounced her name as hwong

meager dew
#

Just a little thing else, was this ever addressed? ThonkJoe

surreal yoke
rough flint
#

yes

surreal yoke
#

respect

rough flint
#

thomas

meager dew
#

when

rough flint
#

when kanjuro reaches kaido with momo

#

he asks

#

and kanjuro's like nah

sour solstice
#

Yeh what questions did he have

#

I was wondering about that in the latest ep

rough flint
#

we dont know nothing

sour solstice
#

He didn’t even ask the scabbards huh

#

Or momo

#

He was gonna execute momo

rough flint
#

he asked kanjuro

#

why dont you read

sour solstice
#

Ask him what

rough flint
sour solstice
#

What was his question?

robust hound
#

Thoughts on momo being Uranus? I would rather not but there's a lot of motifs with momo related to flight and the sky

signal wadi
#

Read the chapter

sour solstice
#

No

rough flint
#

it was just a general question and he said "we know nothing" and then kaido's like well if you dont know then that's that

hot hearth
#

he dint got shit anyway since oden dint tell them nothing

sour solstice
#

Oh

rich quiver
#

honestly the turtle idea is pretty sick

fleet goblet
hot hearth
#

i still think its luffy talking to momo with VOAT

robust hound
#

It's too early for shirahoshi imo

fleet goblet
#

I think sea king is possible, but idk if shirahoshi is there.

signal wadi
sour solstice
#

Zunisha is definitely the most plausible

#

Turtle idea sucks and I’m not a big fan of the sea kings

surreal yoke
#

If it's a sea king, I doubt Momo can communicate with them

#

that's Poseidon's thing

sour solstice
#

Well

ruby junco
#

He'd only be able to hear them, not speak back

sour solstice
#

He shouldn’t be able to control them

fleet goblet
#

yeah but he doesn't need to communicate, he can still hear them

hot hearth
#

sea king on wanos lake

sour solstice
#

Thing is

#

How does that work?

#

Can the sea kings not hear him?

robust hound
#

Can he hear sea kings?

sour solstice
#

If momo speaks, will they not hear him?

meager dew
#

Seakings are massive

#

They should neck slam onigashima

sour solstice
#

Oh shit there’s a podcast

hot hearth
surreal yoke
#

the sea kings from FMI are too big to go up the waterfall LUL

sour solstice
#

Neato

finite notch
surreal yoke
#

yeah but hearing them wouldn't lead anywhere with Momo

flat drift
#

Evan, they make the waterfall bigger

#

Easy

surreal yoke
#

he can hear them, but nothing else

surreal yoke
hot hearth
#

look at that

flat drift
#

You can't tell a seaking no

fleet goblet
#

I do not think it's gone, but it's gone down a lot.

finite notch
#

Law pirates, washing on shore, Zunisha

surreal yoke
#

Jean Bart getting this moment sad

fleet goblet
#

carrot isn't a DF user. she can still swim.

flat drift
#

CROCUS IS BACK

finite notch
#

Can't think of anything else

meager dew
#

??

hot hearth
#

if its a giant turtle explain the big hole in the middle of wano then lol

flat drift
#

IN THE GIANT TURTLE

tired copper
robust hound
#

Tbf didn't carrot jump off zunisha LOL

surreal yoke
#

how tf would Sanji know

hot hearth
#

turtle how again?

fleet goblet
#

because Kaido announced it

surreal yoke
#

he doesn't know Kaido threw him off

finite notch
#

Only Momo could have known before the announcement

surreal yoke
#

oh yeah wait

fleet goblet
surreal yoke
#

they did announce that nvm

sour solstice
#

Sanji sense luffy’s presence with obs haki dw

surreal yoke
#

he's not

meager dew
hot hearth
#

on that map onigashima is heading left luffy would be on that small body of water

meager dew
#

Discord censorship

#

:)

surreal yoke
#

Gonna be cringe Jean Bart

flat drift
#

Stop hating

sour solstice
#

Jean Bart haters

#

😴

tired copper
#

Lean Lart will come in

robust hound
#

Can we see ikkaku do something

meager dew
gentle ledge
meager dew
#

Sanji needs to carry Zoro

fleet goblet
#
  1. Law tells his crew
  2. Zunesha
  3. Sea Kings
  4. Luffy washes up on shore (very cringe)
flat drift
#

Sanji can drop zoro, he can protect his own broken body

surreal yoke
#

giant animal species

hot hearth
#

wait VOAT is only animals?

robust hound
#

The teapot KataOmegaLUL KataOmegaLUL KataOmegaLUL

signal wadi
#

Why you hating, Evan UsoppSus

surreal yoke
#

Dude, whoever got Zunesha hit the jackpot LUL

meager dew
finite notch
#

TURTLEMAN

robust hound
#

I'm so triggered by the teapot is oden theory

hot hearth
#

so what are the chances its luffy talking to momo and sending a message

sour solstice
#

Bunbuku uses his scrotum like a parachute to float down to the water

fleet goblet
#

It won't be Jean Bart. It'll be Law telling his crew to look for Luffy.

surreal yoke
#

that's a way better option

#

I like that idea

hot hearth
#

kiado sensing that luffy is glaring at him is the voat

odd kestrel
#

That octopus from act 1 will save Luffy

meager dew
#

Sukiyaki could heal him with doll magic

finite notch
#

Zunisha will do Kaido's job for him and send Luffy's corpse to the middle of the live floor

surreal yoke
#

I hope Sukiyaki comes into this

rich quiver
#

based octopus

fleet goblet
#

Zunesha just exists next to Wano, constantly spewing water to keep onigashima floating.

finite notch
#

Chopper 2v1 Yonko Commanders

hot hearth
#

whos the other commander?

surreal yoke
#

lazy and sadistic

flat drift
#

Chopper can throw 25 tons, what a powerhouse

fleet goblet
#

yooo, this is interesting.

signal wadi
#

Peros I'm presuming but he's not really fighting him

flat drift
surreal yoke
#

on the way to Zou?

finite notch
#

PH going to Dressrosa imo

fleet goblet
#

it implies that it's gonna have some permanent effects on his appearance

surreal yoke
#

yeah

fleet goblet
#

with prolonged use.

meager dew
#

That Chopper outfit looks like its post PH

surreal yoke
#

Sanji's team on the way to Zou

meager dew
rich quiver
#

maybe chopper goes berserk again after staying transformed for longer than the intended amount

finite notch
#

Caesar flashbacks

#

For all of Chopper's fights

sour solstice
finite notch
#

For the rest of the series

sour solstice
#

Maybe the effect is that kung fu point is removed

meager dew
#

I'm glad the rumble balls are playing in some way this arc

meager dew
fleet goblet
#

Yeah.

meager dew
#

I was wishing for it

sour solstice
#

I’m intrigued, it could be cool if chopper gets deformed somehow

fleet goblet
#

it's not helping chopper so much as he just wants to do science shit, while being able to brag he's better than others.

devout hawk
#

Caesar's primary interest is science. He's a villain because he's willing to go to any extent for the sake of it, but he's curious

meager dew
#

Chopper only did it for a few seconds to stop Prometheus

surreal yoke
#

and Caesar doesn't really care about bad side effects or ethics

meager dew
#

Once Sanji came in he didn't need it anymore

finite notch
fleet goblet
#

Oh that could be possible.

#

black coffee is disgusting, so that makes sense.

surreal yoke
#

isn't this some reference to something?

distant mantle
#

wasnt that when he got blasted to the future island?

#

by kuma

rough flint
#

he also does it vs kumadori i believe

#

which is what we were referring to i think but maybe also sly

finite notch
#

So much for going for Marco

sour solstice
#

Dw guys those arrows are totally gonna mess chopper up!

surreal yoke
#

Peros just doesn't give a shit

sour solstice
#

As soon as the fodder actually get taken out by them

hot hearth
#

luffy failing to use a new attack / form?

sour solstice
#

It was Gomu Gomu no Pinwheel

hot hearth
#

ayt nvm

sour solstice
#

He tried to bring it back

flat drift
#

One of them has an arrow in his head

#

what a chad

surreal yoke
#

Chopper is wearking a samurai helmet

flat drift
#

"wearking"

surreal yoke
#

too lazy to correct that

pine tide
#

I cant hear anything

sour solstice
#

Candy arrows stronk

pine tide
#

Is it only for me

sour solstice
#

Me neither

#

But I’m not listening to the podcast

#

So

hot hearth
pine tide
#

Are they talking?

fleet goblet
#

A lot of people predicted Marco to have like 2b

meager dew
#

I honestly believe Queen will die decapitated because of this

sour solstice
#

I was hoping for 1.6b

flat drift
#

All those people are wrong

fleet goblet
#

because WB was the strongest Emperor, and Marco was his right hand.

sour solstice
hot hearth
#

so marco is busy with king i assume

sour solstice
#

1.4b is good for Marco now

fleet goblet
#

yeah but comparative to WB? WB was 5b

flat drift
#

Imagine hoping any commander has a bounty over 1.5

surreal yoke
#

Kaido's calamities are just bigger pieces of shit and are a bigger threat to the public

flat drift
#

couldn't be me

finite notch
#

They got wiped in Payback BrookShrug

pine tide
#

Are they talking in vc???

meager dew
#

Yes

fleet goblet
#

Probably means King will have same bounty as Queen.

meager dew
pine tide
#

I cant hear them

hot hearth
#

you need to click that VC to hear it

fleet goblet
#

100%

sour solstice
#

Who’s who will finish off queen in post wano

surreal yoke
#

Hope King's bounty isn't higher than Luffy's either

fleet goblet
#

I will speak in absolutes, unlike fats.

meager dew
fleet goblet
#

just a feeling.

meager dew
#

or reset discord

pine tide
#

Its phone

surreal yoke
#

mary's

sour solstice
#

I think Marco and king will be the same or close

meager dew
#

Reset discord anyway

sour solstice
#

1.4 for both

pine tide
#

Im dumb

#

I was deafened

meager dew
#

oh lol

hot hearth
#

im glad whos who dont just use his sword

fleet goblet
#

1 hr discussion on Jinbei vs WW to compensate for lack of it being addressed at all

sour solstice
#

Cu leg

#

Cyborg

fleet goblet
#

notice he's using his sword as well

finite notch
#

Jinbei's seemed fine the whole fight

pine tide
#

Oh yeah hes a cyborg

meager dew
#

Cyborg yeah

finite notch
#

Every time we pan on him he's thinking ab other things

surreal yoke
#

looooooong boi

meager dew
#

This guy.

#

Jinbe calls another school of whale sharks

sour solstice
pine tide
#

But jimbei has to completely ignore whos who and jump into see to get luffy

#

Sea*

hot hearth
fleet goblet
#

oh something I never noticed initially. Brook is still with Robin. So I doubt that fight is gonna be a 1v1 robin vs maria.

surreal yoke
#

sadge

#

yeah it's looking more and more likely that brook stays

meager dew
#

@ruby junco Was he?

surreal yoke
#

Franky = Brook and Robin

meager dew
#

I thought it was the beast pirates ship

#

That he destroyed

fleet goblet
#

didn't he just jump?

surreal yoke
#

he just swam

pine tide
#

Who could be the voice momonosuke hears?

fleet goblet
#

yeah. he shot a beam onto the beast pirates, then went onto Sunny.

meager dew
finite notch
#

Live floor Beast Pirates may switch back

fleet goblet
#

doubt it.

surreal yoke
#

drake just turned

hot hearth
#

even the samurai are prep to die

surreal yoke
#

Peros CrocoKid

fleet goblet
#

just double checked, seems like jinbei is just on the rubble of the ship he destroyed.

ruby junco
hot hearth
#

ain't law running for Big mom? well he thinks he heard big mom

ruby junco
#

Best panel in Wano till Maser Cannon

pine tide
#

Whats the discussion about rn?

hot hearth
#

page 8

meager dew
#

WHo will switch

pine tide
#

Alr

hot hearth
#

shinobu could have killed that frog instantly

#

but thats irrelevant anyway

pine tide
#

If kaido is going for a clean up

#

Won't he see big mom next to a knocked out ulti and page one

#

Which might make them fight

fleet goblet
#

I think it's from the voice.

hot hearth
#

luffy screaming at him RogerLaugh

fleet goblet
#

If you think it's from the log, do you think Momo is gonna ask Kin to help him get off? Like, leave Onigashima or something?

#

since he has to stay alive

hot hearth
#

i think momo is close to controlling his DF

surreal yoke
#

nah he has something he needs to tell everyone, the thing he needs to tell is something that can turn the tides of the raid

#

I don't think he's just like "oh I have to prepare for the dawn and open up Wano, I need to tell everyone that"

#

that's something that can be said after the raid

hot hearth
#

man momo shooting beams soon

surreal yoke
#

what a loser, SHIT CHARACTER REEEEEEEEEEEEE

flat drift
#

I cry

#

I feel for Kiku

signal wadi
#

Are you one of those people Red UsoppSus

surreal yoke
#

@subtle trellis looks like we lost about the kanjuro thing brother sadBear

distant mantle
#

that whole scene hit me

meager dew
#

Yeah

distant mantle
#

the whole flashback with them as kids

#

oop

meager dew
#

She knows it's Kanjuro but he's basically the perfect actor and manipulator

signal wadi
#

Evan was wrong about Kanjuro so is taking it out on Jean Bart SanjiYesHoney

meager dew
#

He knows the scabbards better than anyone and how to manipulate them emotionally

surreal yoke
#

it was "Oden" bringing up Izo and Kiku

meager dew
#

I don't agree

hot hearth
#

ashura

surreal yoke
#

yeah but the image of Kanjuro is ruined for her, the image of Oden is still pure, she still idolizes him

#

so physically seeing Oden made her hesitate

distant mantle
#

i agree with evan

meager dew
#

She would have overcome her mercy for Kanjuro eventually, Kanjuro knew that too.

#

That's the point of Kanjuro tho

#

A manipulator

surreal yoke
#

one of the most brutal sequences in one piece

#

like 6 pages straight up death

#

that's over red

#

we gotta give that up

hot hearth
#

kinemon is an ink clone

#

kanjuro saved him

surreal yoke
#

yeah but he's happy to die here

#

this was his end

#

he's doneso

#

Kanjuro was already mortally wounded

distant mantle
#

crackpot theory, kanjuro dies and his whole fruit gets transferred and usopp gets it with his artistic abilities

#

and he uses it to make bombs

#

basically ammunition

fleet goblet
#

he'll paint some bandages

hot hearth
#

paint a bed then sleep

distant mantle
#

he just got stabbed/sliced, ofc he has tears

#

mans in pain

ruby junco
hot hearth
surreal yoke
#

this was closure for me

#

yeahhh... no shot he's dead

#

like rn

#

he could die eventually

meager dew
#

Kinemon still needs to meet Otsuru

#

So nah

fleet goblet
#

when was the last time we saw swords break like this? If we assume he's using haki on his swords, it's the first time haki swords have been broken.

surreal yoke
#

this wasn't a clear death scene

#

I took it as the opposite

rough flint
#

kiku's sword choc

fleet goblet
#

oh ye

surreal yoke
#

I disagree completely

#

misleading angle

meager dew
#

^

hot hearth
#

is it a crack doe?

distant mantle
#

kinemon leaving with scoliosis

meager dew
#

Not a crack

surreal yoke
#

yeah I think it's just lightning

surreal yoke
#

^

hot hearth
surreal yoke
#

He'll be knocked out/immensely injured

hot hearth
#

that weapon has spikes also

meager dew
#

Blunt spikes

surreal yoke
#

he could succumb to his wounds later

#

but he's not dead now

hot hearth
#

more like pointy spikes

subtle trellis
meager dew
#

I actually think one of the dukes is dying

#

ANd its probably Inu

#

Zou needs to unify with one Duke

surreal yoke
#

Inu will defeat Jack but die of his injuries

hot hearth
#

3 stabs and a bomb

surreal yoke
#

Ashura is gonezo

meager dew
timber jolt
#

de-gonezo

surreal yoke
#

Kiku thinks he's dead, then Kiku dies here

hot hearth
surreal yoke
#

FEELS like Oda is going all the way with these deaths

#

These characters really are far more major than Pound etc...

#

Should have been Shinobu sad

#

just imagining Kaido smashing Shinobu into oblivion with that attack lol

fleet goblet
#

I can see where red is coming from. these aren't really grand scenes.

surreal yoke
#

he didn't get one

hot hearth
#

the only flashback on that scene is showing toki

surreal yoke
#

@ruby junco

fleet goblet
#

if the scabbards are dying, yamato is staying on wano.

#

bet.

surreal yoke
#

nooooo

gentle ledge
hot hearth
#

i can see that

gentle ledge
#

not a chance

timber jolt
meager dew
gentle ledge
#

it's from DCinside lol

meager dew
#

lmao

surreal yoke
#

I only think Inu is dying

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after Kiku

hot hearth
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i would be surprise if ashura is alive

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they just left his body there

meager dew
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Very omnious ending actually

surreal yoke
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can genuinely see it ending next chapter yeah

meager dew
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!act3

meager dew
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unironically

timber jolt
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i want that shit to drop

surreal yoke
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b-but .... Momo

hot hearth
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yeah drop that shit

surreal yoke
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hell yeah he is

timber jolt
meager dew
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Well Momo is definitely going to man up a lot

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After reading the logs

left sigil
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they finally reached land, but we haven't gotten to the flower kingdom yet.

surreal yoke
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Momo's got a lot of stuff coming

fleet goblet
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momo was always the most likely scenario to stop it outside of it not falling anywhere where people are.

surreal yoke
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now that Luffy is gone, Zoro is the only one who can save us

hot hearth
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momo character development going on steroids

surreal yoke
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bout to solo the raid

timber jolt
surreal yoke
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Wasn't it just one between act 1 and 2?

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925

fleet goblet
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it was 1/2 a chapter

meager dew
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What Bean said

fleet goblet
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what adam said

meager dew
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The submarine is still around where the island originally was

surreal yoke
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@cunning ingot QMC baby. Big Mom pirates coming in

timber jolt
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the submarine probably saves him

fleet goblet
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this is the completely opposite side of wano

meager dew
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Unless it was following it all the time

surreal yoke
rough flint
surreal yoke
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I'm just messin

upbeat sand
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Luffy: ughhh where am I?
Luffy: who am I....?

hot hearth
meager dew
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I'd hate that

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But it'd be funny

left sigil
hot hearth
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HD map

meager dew
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I don't want the BMP to be cock blocked for the third time

rancid mountain
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My guess is that Luffy gets picked up by Law's crew who are circling the island since the beginning

surreal yoke
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it's smoothie, hope Oda just memes her

meager dew
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ALSO WHERE IS THE ONIGASHIMA MAP THAT WE WERE PROMISED

fleet goblet
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BM leaving is more likely after this chapter

surreal yoke
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it wasn't really a map thomas, it was like telling us where all the characters were

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kinda misleading

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at least from what I've seen

meager dew
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Well still

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It's nowhere

surreal yoke
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no that's what I mean, people were sharing it this morning

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it's just a list of which character is

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and what they're doing

meager dew
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Oh really

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I didn't see it

fleet goblet
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I think thomas means one made by oda

meager dew
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^

hot hearth
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i like boss like these no BS

surreal yoke
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yeah I know, I'm not really sure where that is

rapid lake
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you think kid will fight big mom alone?

hot hearth
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i think laww is coming

surreal yoke
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LAWW??

rapid lake
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darn

fleet goblet
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@uneven hamlet you coming bro?

surreal yoke
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save us

upbeat sand
rancid mountain
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Law's crew is picking up Luffy from their submarine

uneven hamlet
rapid lake
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shut it grizz, Ik kid will fight alone

fleet goblet
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thanks

timber jolt
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mercy kill

surreal yoke
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he'll walk it off

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just a bruise

fleet goblet
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dude, going off reactions is like the worst thing. people always have reactions to "deaths"

hot hearth
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futon ?

surreal yoke
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there are some post wano implications for Kinemon where he's needed imo

rough flint
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!hack

surreal yoke
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!hack

timber jolt
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spine: decimated

surreal yoke
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crunch = club cracking CrocoKid

fleet goblet
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dude idk. spandam still survived with a broken spine, and now he's walking just fine.

meager dew
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^

hot hearth
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one of the spikes on that club got to penetrate kins body

surreal yoke
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this was too sudden for Kin

finite notch
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He's not dead YET, but may easily die next chap

surreal yoke
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Shu

hot hearth
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omg

timber jolt
surreal yoke
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I think it's just a design thing

fleet goblet
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spikes = cool not spiky

surreal yoke
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and Yamato's clubs are rounded to contrast it

timber jolt
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kaidos club is spikier

signal wadi
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Oda been hacking it since day one....

surreal yoke
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how tf do I raise my hand again?

fleet goblet
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alright, I'll join

rancid mountain
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click the vc thing

signal wadi
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🙋‍♂️

distant mantle
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we dont wanna talk to you red

hot hearth
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can i ask here?