manga-theories

[gray creek]

Of those things, D feels like the most likely man made thing. If they are enemies of the gods, aka Celestial Dragons, easy answer is it has to do with the remnants of the AK keeping memory of something alive. Since we know the way it’s maintained is through family tradition, it could be by far the least supernatural lasting mystery in the series

[pure raven]

Okay hear me out

Actually nvm

[chrome frigate]

Idk, it does seem to me that something consistent and which goes beyond lifetimes and genealogies is happening with the D; it seems to be supernatural (at least in the basic sense of beyond our understanding of nature in one piece) on a scale that things like a ship that can destroy islands isn't even close to. I think that's why I felt so comfortable assigning such an intense thing as "wish granting via human sacrifice" to it, because the phenomenon seems somewhat distinct from regular inherited will. The Will of D doesn't have to be remembered to work. Why not?

To me, the Will of D seems a lot more like Poseidon than inherited will. Supernatural tendencies over generations, barely remembered, continuing on into history far past the time when their mechanism was understood yet clearly possessing the power to keep recurring

[gray creek]

It’s the definition of inherited will. It’s called the “will” of D and it’s inherited through certain families. It’s a will that can be categorized as being able to stir things up. D’s bring a storm. They’re the natural enemy of the gods, who are the people trying to impose order. And it has an origin or meaning that can be traced because we know some people have figured that out. So far all of the snippets we’ve been given are pretty consistent with a mystery tying to the void century, and nothing points to anything overtly supernatural.

A lot of these points about Roger being remembered or how dreams will never die are 100% related to the phenomenon of inherited will. That is the power. As long as someone has the will of D, it has a chance to be fulfilled. Not because that person has a strange power, but by the virtue of them existing

[chrome frigate]

But the will of D is passed on even to those who don't remember why it exists, or even that it exists, which is not inherited will as we have seen it. Why can some people's will persist even beyond memory? That's the question I don't think the series has fully answered

But even assuming this theory is 100% true, I definitely think the will of D is an exception to the normal rules, as a kind of enhancement or protection of the existing phenomenon of inherited will, rather than completely replacing the concept. I think this because we've seen that not all inherited will has to do with the D to begin with, and because thematically I think the story tends to favor the ability of an individual to rise to challenges even when supernatural forces are involved (Devil Fruit powers becoming more devastating as they're used more creatively and Haki blooming in battle are two examples)

If this is true in any way, I suspect that only someone who thought inherited will + people's dreams were critical would have made the D what they are

As we've been discussing this, it's occurred to me that the connection between death and the fulfillment of dreams is actually stronger than the relationship between the fulfillment of dreams and the D

Which may be a narrative choice, but given the Shandian's human sacrifice, maybe not...I wonder if Noland's horror at the practice of human sacrifice among a people who protected the Poneglyph foreshadows that the people of the ancient kingdom were okay with the idea of sacrificing lives for this purpose and others weren't

Which would make the Will of D the unkillable survivors of an ancient anarchist death cult

[void fractal]

Damnn. One piece fans are like philosophers and historians

[potent swallow]

fr

[twin panther]

Oda said that he was gonna draw a pirate with an eyepatch and in his personal opinion thinks the eyepatch is the most iconic part of a pirates attire so he plans to give it to someone at the epitome of piracy

Seems like it's not someone we have scene before

[tacit veldt]

Or it's pirate king Luffy. He can't wait to draw this character because drawing Luffy at the pinnacle of piracy means having drawn all of his adventures before

Soooooo... Luffy loses an eye? And trains a parrot too, i hope

[muted ember]

I hope it's not Luffy

[neat marten]

Who else would it be

Other than this unrevealed joyboy it would have to be a relevant character I assume

[tacit veldt]

I just hope It isn't fuckin Scopper GAban

[plucky kiln]

I don't see how Scopper Gaban is important enough to have to do with the End of One Piece, and to be hyped by oda since 2007

Although I hope he will appear somehow again, but not as eye patch guy

[plucky kiln]

Luffy would be cool. and yeah I cant even think that joy boy was it since we dont know if he was a pirate

[twin panther]

I think it's gonna be rocks.

Dreads and and an eye patch.

[muted ember]

Out of all those options I would say Joyboy

[twin panther]

Huh

https://tenor.com/view/oh-dear-making-the-cut-worried-oh-my-oh-boy-gif-22519241

[abstract pond]

Rocks is dead. Unless is a flashback we aren't gonna see him.

[twin panther]

When tf did anyone say he was alive

And everytime we see roger it's a flashback so don't know what your point is

[timber silo]

the end of one piece as in 50% done ic

[severe ice]

@void fractal Is this confirmed?

[twin panther]

Yes bro

[light onyx]

Fr fr

[twin panther]

Oda has been excited to draw a specific pirate with an eyepatch

Best bet in order

1. Rocks
2. Luffy
3. Bb

[sturdy hound]

pretty sure that's misinterpreting what oda said. iirc, he just said that he keeps the classic pirate features like the eyepatch, fake leg, fake arm, and whatnot for special characters only. he doesnt want to give them to anyone. zeff had the leg and crocodile the arm, so he's just waiting to give someone an eyepatch

it has nothing to do with the end of the series

@night jewel might know for sure

[night jewel]

I think he did say that a character with an eyepatch will appear "in the final scenes of One Piece", let me grab the source rq

From One Piece 10th Treasures:

Indeed, a pirate. Very easy to understand, but if you take off the eye patch, there's a big difference to one with, and one without (the one without looks like a normal middle-aged man). So then, that means, eye patch = pirate. It’s just like, afro = champion type thing... so have you noticed yet? Well, you probably haven’t. That in One Piece, there has not been one single pirate with an eye patch! ... yes i know, who cares right? But this is my secret "behind the scenes policy". It’s not like every pirate has an eye patch!!! ... right? You can totally draw pirates without an eye patch!!!!
And with that thought in mind it all began; the story of a normal looking boy's pirate story.
I thought, if there's an image in everyone's head about what a pirate is, then I thought I would write/draw about the process of the boy getting there. But its not like I dislike eye patches, so in the final scenes of One Piece, there is one pirate who appears with an eye patch
I'm itching to draw this character.

[sturdy hound]

oo, interesting

that kinda feels like he's saying "luffy will get an eye patch at the eos"

but then that last line lol

ty arsal

[night jewel]

npnp

[pure raven]

Does anyone else think that oden might have explained how to read the ancient language in his journal or even recorded what he read from the poneglyphs and now Yamato knows about all of that?

That is assuming no one else went through his journal

[grizzled valley]

i dont know about explaining how to read the ancient language because that might be uhh idk too OP? that or it seems to be such vital information that I dont think hes just going to write it down in his journal. But recording the details of what he read from the poneglyphs is a solid maybe, maybe not all the information it has, but some important details that stood out to him. Also I dont think anyone else has read his journal after his death, since Yamato found it and said that he hasnt shown the journal to anyone else

[split glacier]

The eye patch pirate is gonna be someone new

[twin panther]

Yeah likely rocks.

[twin panther]

Yo black moustache I have something for you

[mint kelp]

I been thinking about this, what if xebec is shanks father and shanks joined Roger's pirates after rocks pirates lost to roger and garp, idk if this is true lmk ur opinion

[plucky kiln]

thought about that too

but I think what makes even more sense is that shanks is a son of the CD's or a baby of some slave of the CD's

What rayleigh said about having a baby on board reminding of the old times can most likely is a hint for the existence of some kind of baby on rogers ship

What supports the son of CD or son of Slave theory is that Roger and Garp decided to protect the CD's and their slaves. I mean garp is a hero, he does things like that, but roger ? why would of all people he care to protect those assholes. but then I reread the panel and noticed that "and their slaves" was bold in the manga, probably to emphasise some kind of importance on it.

Thats why I think shanks or buggy, being a baby of a slave makes sense.

A thing that would support shanks be a son of the Celestial Dragons would be the respect that was shown to Shanks at marineford from Sengoku and the way the gorosei treated him. Shanks being a CD could explain those things.

Although it seemed that Sengoku actually respected shanks as a person, but yes idk

I mean Buggy could be rox son, and Shanks could be a CD's son too. that would be weird but yeah why not

[pure raven]

Nico Robin being the only person capable of reading the ancient script doesn't sit right with me, she's not getting hounded as much as one would expect of the only person capable of reading the script

[plucky kiln]

A thing that speaks against shanks being the son of xebec is that Oda ig doesn't like to use familial connections to emphasise ones strength or importance.

He didnt do that with zoro, luffy and pretty much a other characters. sure oda did it sometimes, when it was neccessary e.g. momo, or ace as gold rogers son. but we know from oda personally that he doesnt like blood relation stuff etc

[plucky kiln]

Maybe the government hold itself back because they could have confiscated the last road poneglyph. that way they could be safe that nico robin might be dangerous, but wont get to one piece

Now that I think of it, I think the government having the last poneglyph would make a good key for the begin of the final war. in order to become the pirate king, luffy would have to infiltrate mary joa

Or maybe the last Poneglyph is on God Valley. We know nothing about god valley, but if it turns out that god valley before the CD taking over it used to be related to the ancient kingdom, it would make sense for the last poneglyph to be there. roger might have realised that and went there again with his crew to look for it

[torpid mist]

Why did oden need to take roger back to wano? It seemed like oden knew exactly where the poneglyph on wano was, and he can read the text. Are we supposed to believe he never read or didnt remember what it said? Or was Roger using voice of all things on it necessary to unlock the road to raftel?

[plucky kiln]

I think Oden didn't know the purpose of the red poneglpyhs. they are basically just coordinates. and he seemed to give a fuck on these things in his younger days

[sand sail]

Yeah, he probably didn't care or didn't read the message. It was something completely irrelevant to his life beyond the fact that his family taught the language. Even if he had read it, why would he remember it?

[split glacier]

That guy just keeps coming back and back...

[pure raven]

Rocks or Im. Or maybe Rocks representing Im.

[mint kelp]

He do like relating some characters strength with the D's tho, i haven't seen a "weak" one piece character who got D in their name yet, so it might explains why shanks could be a son of xebec knowing that he's the only "old" D that oda didn't tell us if he has a son or not

But Shanks is one of the biggest mysterious characters that one piece have so hopefully we will know his past in the movie thats coming out in 2022

[slate mirage]

What do You think of the akainu being a member of sword theory?

[modest skiff]

I don’t think Akainu fits the archetype of Navy members we’ve seen so far. In general it appears Sword is both anti-CD and anti pirate. Akainu is a major boot licker. Garp, maybe, but not Akainu. Aokiji embodied the type of philosophy that goes into sword. Akainu and Aokiji fought for control of the navy because they firmly disagree

[slate mirage]

I understand,and you're probably right,but... There are some evidences that support the theory (he doesnt particularly seems to like the gorosei),and it would also be an interesting twist to have such an "irremediabile" character in the eyes of many people,be part of sword.

The moment where he attempts to kill Coby is the biggest problem tho

[fathom matrix]

I bet it's gonna be the left eye.

One piece has this habbit of character having markings and scars on the left side of their face, especially the monkey D family, rayleigh, zoro, king in these chapters.

I think Luffy having an eye patch would cover up his other defining characteristic (his scar) and it'll be saved for someone who's got a clean face, waiting for a scar/eye patch

[placid kite]

portgas d rouge

not saying she isn’t strong but come on she died during child birth

[modest skiff]

What evidence?

[royal spruce]

So Not really a theory but another thread to something. Apparently Shandora stems from a sanskrit word of moon. So basically, The Shandians and Lunarians have the same name. mabye the name of the lost ancient kingdom Is Lunaria as a precursor or counterpart to shandora

[undone mulch]

Zoros gonna be the one the defeat Blackbeard.

[tepid coral]

Dunno how many times this theory has been discussed here. But I just thought about it. I really think that void century is the dark spot of world goverement. I think in that 100 years timeline there were wars between different kingdoms for the power and I believe that the kingdoms who are part of world goverment also took part in it and emerged out victorious from that war by massacring millions of people. I also think that it maybe in someway related to the ancient weapons and by some way I think that these ancient weapons were used in the war of void century and then they were hidden by the respective kingdoms considering the dangreous threats those weapons posed to the world. This full out war led to the emergence of current world goverment imo

[undone mulch]

Yeah that makes too much sense to not be true

[gray creek]

ZKK is evolving, I see

[pure raven]

[olive musk]

In Episode 102, Zoro, Luffy, & Chopper stumbled across an underground ruin where they found a poneglyph. I think this poneglyph mentions something about one of the ancient weapons. I believe that the Nefertari Family were a traitor to the world government. The world government didn't know about it during the void century and suspected them of being a traitor after the war. All of the above points I mentioned can be wrong or irrelevant, as this is a filler episode.

[pure raven]

brr

damn

[pure raven]

I found an interesting theory regarding the Ancient Kigdom's name. It's a name that's we & people in the OP world already knows. Because why shot professor Clover by trying to reveal the name? No one among the marines there would find significance in a name that has been erased in history, unless the name of the Ancient Kingdom is still used today

[timber silo]

most of that is canon

[ancient vault]

Basically all of it

[tepid coral]

Don't think we have ever gotten to know about the connection between void century and the weapons or anything about the void centuary clearly , think only one thing was clear that a war happened in void century and then wg came to power after void century. The way you directly say all of it is cannon makes me sound dumb that I sent it here

[mint kelp]

Yes but thats a female, im talking about males in this case cuz no female character is really that strong in op except for big mom and she's not compared to normal humans relying on her past as a child, but the D's are all humans and most of them built their strength from training and studying for knowledge, so i say that if Portgas D. Rouge trained she would've been strong but she chose not to

[abstract pond]

Rouge always gave me strong vibes. What she did with Ace is no small thing.

[earnest smelt]

Jaguar D Saul

Unless you count giants as just very big humans.

[mint kelp]

Again im talking about normal human beings just like roger and garp basically

[timber silo]

the ancient weapons were in possession and in use by the great kingdom thats why they were so powerful as i said most of that is canon. yes the void century remains a mystery

[tepid coral]

Yeah almost nothing about void century is known and I was just assuming in my theory that void century and ancient weapons have to be linked in a way

[timber silo]

ahh ok

[slate mirage]

https://youtu.be/9jUFAgiGAVk i meant this scene. Akainu seems clearly annoyed at the 5 elders

[timber silo]

coby wasnt in sword pre ts

[slate mirage]

Good point

[split glacier]

Akainu is just upset that as the "boss" he still doesn't have control and really is just still a pet dog. Sword seems too "positive" to have Akainu as member. Dude didn't hesitate to murder Koby over his absolute justice. Those aren't the ideals it seems of Sword.

[slate mirage]

It definetly makes sense what you're saying

Akainu being part of sword is farfetched

But whatever's the deal with Akainu, i hope it's something great,since he's one of my favorite characters

[ancient vault]

I think akainu def knows about sword. Theres no way he doesnt as the fleet admiral
956 drake reports to coby
And in 957 suddenly akainu and the rest of the higher ups know.
Also yeah the scene with the gorosei is more about Akainu being angry st the fact that hes gonna get trouble for this and that the doing of doffy has caused him multiple problems. Context makes this pretty clear here

[sand sail]

Akainu being part of Sword isn't really farfetched, like swrml says he has to know about it and be connected at the least. It's a marine group and he's the Fleet Admiral, by default he'd be the ultimate head of whatever they're doing at the least.

Being willing to kill another marine isn't really relevant to it, Sword is just an undercover marine group. That's something marines all across the Navy tend to do.

[modest skiff]

Couldn't Kong have Sword as a secret to the navy?

While he was the fleet admiral of the Marines, he had absolute control of the organization, under the World Government. Now, as World Government Commander-in-Chief, he works for the World Government, and possesses not only power over the Marines, but also authority over the Government's espionage agents, the Seven Warlords of the Sea, Enies Lobby, and the Cipher Pols. According to the World Government hierarchy, his authority is second only to the Five Elders and Im.[5]

From Kong's wiki

[sand sail]

Not really, Sengoku seemed to be part of Sword back in the day as an admiral with Corazon, but even besides that Sword is a marine group. Kong would have ultimate authority of them all as far as he's above the marines too, but he wouldn't really be making a secret group within the marines. There wouldn't really be a reason for him to either, and Akainu still gets information from Sword so there's no way it's a secret from him

[modest skiff]

yeah not secret from akainu, but secret from others it seems

[sand sail]

Secret from others would be reasonable, no one below maybe Vice Admiral would ever have to know about it for it to function.

Maybe even no one under the admirals would know about it, even better.

[modest skiff]

I'm trying to remember, did an admiral ever interact with sword?

[sand sail]

Sengoku's the only one who may have, but that's just assuming he and Corazon were in it

[modest skiff]

When was x drake sword? At sabaody, Kizaru was running around

[sand sail]

He had to have been back then since he's been a pirate since back then as well

[modest skiff]

yeah x drake seemed legitimately terrified of Kizaru back then, which makes me think at least Kizaru didn't know about Sword

[sand sail]

I just figured Drake knew Kizaru wouldn't hold back even if he did know, I can't see Kizaru not being in the loop about it

[lucid minnow]

https://imgur.com/a/pomtRWS
I don't know if this can help any joyboy theories but I just noticed this again whole watching an old clip of luffy's baka song

[modest skiff]

What exactly should we be taking from that picture?

[gray creek]

I suspect, but hope isn’t that the forced perspective of the hat makes it look like the one in Mariejois

[pure raven]

hi there, question regarding the Joyboy title: If now in 1035 we know that joyboy is a title rather than a individual, why did roger say "oh joy boy, i wish i was born in your time!". Is this perhaps the first joyboy?

[amber oar]

but Kizaru sounded like he knew what Drake was doing

[pure raven]

if so, who was the first joy boy? they must have had a name before getting the joyboy title

[split glacier]

The first Joy Boy is suspected to be the guy with the big Straw hat from 800 years ago. The 2nd hasn't been "chosen" yet but is looking likely to be Luffy(?).
Probably a title given to someone and that's what he was know as the same way Luffy is known as Straw hat/Mugiwara. Joyboy's real name is unknown

[pure raven]

is the giant strawhat made of straw? i was always under the impression it was a stone straw hat for some reason..

[split glacier]

Straw.

[pure raven]

pog maybe it was a giant

perhaps loki's brother thor was joyboy

[split glacier]

Giant, Oni. Something bigger than human

[sand sail]

We don't really have any info on the strawhat at all, it may not have been Joyboy's, but maybe.

[pure raven]

i like the theory that because of Loki's existence that implies maybe a giant named thor

[ripe geyser]

I really don’t want Luffy to be a direct prophecy

It would defeat the purpose of him putting in hard work and effort to rise to PK

[split glacier]

It's more so fate vs fate. He's not destined to autowin.

[pure raven]

hes not a prophecy for sure, hes probably just going to align with the goals of joyboy because thats who luffy is

[ripe geyser]

If Luffy learns the history and chooses to carry on the will I would like that much more

[pure raven]

luffy has to learn the world history soon

[split glacier]

Like its not destined for him to win rather than that's a possible path. He still has to overcome other "fates" other people have

[ripe geyser]

Yeah ik that

[gray creek]

At LT

[pure raven]

i feel like hes too unaware of a MC on a global scale at times, him learning the true history would be a cool turning point for his character

[split glacier]

I doubt Luffy will care that much about the history.

[ripe geyser]

It would just be really stupid if a prophecy from 800 years ago said “a boy named Monkey D. Luffy is gonna carry on our legacy lol”

[split glacier]

Whatever stops his "freedom" he'll fight against but he doesn't care about all the mysteries and politics

[ripe geyser]

I doubt Oda has something cringe like that planned though

[ripe geyser]

Yeah I agree

[split glacier]

Oda isn't a hack like some authors lol

[gray creek]

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if it straight up says a boy will be born in the East Blue

[pure raven]

i like ur pfp btw god 👌

[ripe geyser]

Isn’t it so godly

[pure raven]

what makes u theorize wano ends at 1058?

[ripe geyser]

I don’t have any extremely specific chapter calculations or wordplay speculations or anything like that but based on what I know needs to be covered I am guessing Wano ends at 1058

[split glacier]

23 chapters, 28-34 weeks? Seems about right. I think Wano ending summer time

[ripe geyser]

Same

I wish I was joking when I say this but last night someone said 4-5 chapters will cover ZKK

The worst part is I’m sure this wasn’t a joke because I’ve seen the same kid say many stupid things prior

[split glacier]

I don't see Zoro recovering by then

[ripe geyser]

Of course he’s not

Is he down as of the end of this chapter?

[split glacier]

He should pass out pretty soon. Like the start of next chapter but I dunno. Medicine gotta kick in

[pure raven]

I think this isnt canon pretty sure it was only in the anime and not mentioned in the manga

[slate mirage]

I think i might know when one piece ends

This is purely based on guess:

1. Introduction- 100 chapters
2. Grand Line/Paradise- from 100 to 600 which is 500 chapters
3. New world- from 600 to ????; my guess is 1100 to be symmetrical with the first half (so wano might end by 1060, and then we get elbaf until roughly 1100)
4. Climax and epilogue/ the final war- well,to be perfectly symmetrical then it would mean it's the same length as the introduction ,but since the final war+ all the other stuff can't be so short,my guess is that it would be double ,so 200.
   • A grand total of 1300 chapters of one piece ,which should end in 2029,if i did the math corectly.

Oda probably is not trying to be symmetrical,so this is a complete guess,and it may be wrong,but oh well,i tried

[severe ice]

They are several chapters tho! Wano Kuni arc should end up at least in 15 chapters.

[modest skiff]

Lets have conversations like this in the manga channels rather than the theories channel

[gilded willow]

what if zunesha is urano or something related? oden and roger could hear the voice of sea kings and are related to poseidon, and when they go to zou they hear a strange voice too...

[sand sail]

Neither Oden nor Roger were related to Poseidon, but that was seemingly just the Voice of All Things that allowed them to hear

[pure raven]

He was born 200 years before the void century and punished to an eternity walk in the void century so this is possible since mom can command it

[pure raven]

Momo's voice of all things allowed him to order zunesha too tho. I wonder what that is

[sand sail]

That is whatever debt he has with either the Kozuki or Toki's clan

[pure raven]

Did anyone realize that the thing in the fog at thriller bark was almost certainly another elephant?

What else could it be

It's big, it has huge limbs that stick out from the water

It crashes ships that bump into it

[slate mirage]

You mean,the things

There were 3 i think

[sand sail]

When did they interact with ships?

[slate mirage]

I think it is implied by the narrator

[inland wave]

aren't those shadows from skypeia

[wide lagoon]

No ig it was different

[lunar wren]

I am going to guess that the emperors will lose, kid n law will be exhausted and captured. and government might get one of the emperors DF maybe

that would turn the tide a lot also we still have 0 context for dragon

[silver sun]

next manga will be kaido vs luff

[lunar wren]

yeh but im theorizing on how big mom fight will conclude

if we aare reaching the end. kid and law surpassing big mom will shift the world tensions like crazy

which can lead to a more climatic final arc

that makes sense

could be a Kuma 2.0 and greenbull is a build up of all the cyborg research

he said he's got a creation on his hands

[tacit surge]

He was talking about vegapunk there

[lunar wren]

yeh what if vegapunk made GB

first smart AI robot in OP

[tacit surge]

Gb isn't aware of said thing

[lunar wren]

oop I didmt know who was talking for a sec

[tacit surge]

Lmao

[lunar wren]

that would be cool tho

mads human enchancments + DF research + Kuma cyborgs. Vegapunk is making a cyborg that can use/remove/control/replicate DF

[tacit surge]

Is there potentially a fruit that interacts with other fruits like the yami yami no mi

[solar knoll]

I think Yami Yami no Mi ability is based on The Black Hole. Which is basically created by a dying Sun/Supernova

[tacit surge]

So you think there could be some form of sun/supernova df

Which would parallel bbs fruit

[solar knoll]

Well technically a blackhole is so powerful it could swallow up a sun for breakfast

[tacit surge]

I mean that's why it's the strongest logia

[solar knoll]

Only thing that can match a blackhole is a white hole

[tacit surge]

Bro do you think a sun/supernova df exists

The sun is just a star so it probably wouldn't be called sun sun fruit

[solar knoll]

I think it’s quite likely, that mera mera fruit awakening could be related to it

[tacit surge]

What

[solar knoll]

And Sabo will take on the will of Ace

Yea it isn’t, but I can’t imagine a sun sun fruit

[tacit surge]

How come

[solar knoll]

Is there?

[tacit surge]

Bellamy has one. And a sun sun df would be different to a flame fruit

Suns actually have cores and mass

It's very different

[solar knoll]

I understand, but I can’t see how they will make use of that as a power

[tacit surge]

So what fruit do you think sun god nika possessed

To be called a sun god

[lunar violet]

A very small theory, I think kaido is from the D, in the new chapter it appears that kaido and king know about Joyboy and king thinks kaido is Joyboy, and theres a very high chance joyboy is from the D, if you are Joyboy its most likely that you are from the will of d, and also in the end of the chapter we see luffy and kaido laughing and saying this is getting fun, the only ones who say that are people from the will of D

[lunar violet]

What yall think?

[tacit surge]

Yeah I highly doubt yamato is a D

[lunar violet]

Dang i didnt think about that

[tacit surge]

Kaidou gives the vibes I won't lie

[solar knoll]

I am not sure if Nika is gonna be a fruit user. Not enough to base it on yet.

Haha he was hungry?

[lunar violet]

nika is from the lunarians?

its not a troll, Oda can easily make a scenario saying nika and his tribe were very poor but they found the fruit and they ate it

maybe because nika doesnt know that this is a fire fruit

maybe he thinks its a normal fruit
You dont know

We are talking about oda here, theres no thing such as limitless possibilities

thats why its called a theory

well im talking on based what that guy said

Im not talking about your theory

I havent even read it im just answering your question, now ill go read it

I didnt know the question was based on your theory, Mr theory

thank you

Bruh i cant post pictures i have an insane theory

well not a theory something i realized

Ohhh

ok

So in the cover page of chapter 1036 Below luffy there were some words which were written, Solel or soliel 967, which ofcourse i went to translate and look what i found, about the number 967 of course i went to one piece chapter 967, and now im gonna shock yall, so see in this chapter its called rogers adventure, it was the chapter were roger arrived to raftel, and had the famous panel, HE LAUGHED. This cant be a coincidence, so is oda telling us the the sun has something to do with the one piece and raftel,

check this out yall

Btw shout out to an arabic youtuber called odachi for this

he is the one who did it

[lunar violet]

@tacit surge check this out

Niceee

Bye gtg

[fathom matrix]

oh shit

huh, guess that idea was kinda right and added to the theory

[craggy oak]

another joyboy call

[hoary shore]

Sanjis gonna come out of the closet

[fathom matrix]

I think they're not gonna end up catching robin

I bet you they'll see her on the way back, but a bunch of rubble blocks the way, and they go "dammit, we were that close. Come on, let's get out of here"

[pure raven]

Here's the MOST LIKELY origin of the strawhat:

Important person somewhere in the Ancient History: looks at the dawn of the sun Looking at this somewhat gives me hope for a new beginning. Why don't we honor our people by making something that looks like that beautiful sun that is rising to remind them that there is always going to be hope? ☺

After this period of time of which it became a symbol of a particular individual's will..

[languid tartan]

Is it possible that lunarians are able to read the ancient language?

[crystal quiver]

from 1036 cover https://cdn.onepiecechapters.com/file/CDN-M-A-N/op_1036_bushido_001-002.png

who is number 1?

Luffy is 0, Zoro is 02, Usopp is 04 and Jinbei is 10

[muted ember]

A lot of ppl were saying Kaido is depressed bc he couldn't be Joyboy, but it seems like King cared more about it than he did

[ancient vault]

King did at the start

When Kaido recruited him the only reason he joined was because kaido promised him hes the one whos gonna change the world aka is/be joyboy

[crystal quiver]

yeah kaido said he will change the world so king told him about joyboy

[normal flame]

I think how kaido is gonna die when the island falls hell contain the blast so he will be the lone casualty

[pure raven]

My theory is that King told Kaido about Joyboy and hence he knows who Joyboy is and what he intended to do, which is also why I believe the Lunarians were wiped out by the World Government since they had information about the void century except for the one test subject.

[muted ember]

I don't think he's the last Lunarian bc the government is still paying for info, and King's subordinates didn't kno he was one so I'm assuming there are others

But a lot of ppl were saying Kaido thought he was Joyboy and got depressed when he realized he wasn't. Here it doesn't seem like he cared and he was kind of trolling King about it

[split glacier]

That guy is back again. How many accounts does he have lol

[tawdry yoke]

|| blackbeard has three souls inside of him and its the reason why he can use two fruits and might possibly get a third fruit and is also the reason why he is said to have never slept in his life||

[copper frost]

you dont have to spoiler tag your message here

[muted ember]

It seems like he may have never thought he was Joyboy, it was King

[pure raven]

koby is the first person luffy asked to join his crew before zoro

[muted ember]

Not anymore but the framing of the convo is that Kaido was King's "Joyboy" at one point

[pure raven]

oh is this the guy from last week who said pluton wasnt a battleship lol

[muted ember]

That's OK bc you're about to be banned again lol

We all know RJ

It makes u come back w a different name so we all know it's u

[abstract pond]

Feels like all the theories here in the last month are 50% Rocks and the other 50% Lunarians

[runic knot]

I have an idea on what dragons fruit is

I think he can somehow manipulate wind or weather

[pure raven]

Yep. This is the dominant theory atm

[pure raven]

Nope. One guy was saying that the reason bb can hold more than one fruit is bc he is a D. People think D is something you can just blame for everything in op

[tawdry bramble]

Multi decade plot lines with only the smallest bits of infos during the whole stretch will do that to you.

[runic knot]

To be more specific wind seeing as he can fly

[alpine forge]

Who is that two piece reader ?

[muted ember]

I want to talk about Kaido's cuffs. Either he's strong enough to fight w full seastone cuffs, or they were only partially seastone which raises the question of why?

[split glacier]

I thought Uranus was a crazy DF, like mythical God fruit Uranus (Greek Mythology)/Sky Sky fruit. He stole it from the goverment blah blah blah. He has dominion over the weather and skies

[split glacier]

Probably partially. If he's too weakened then maybe they can't test true resilience and things like that? Didn't know he was so strong and bam.

[muted ember]

But we don't know if they were testing his resilience, only King, they only needed his lineage factor

[pure raven]

Not seastone. Just decoration

[muted ember]

I highly doubt that

[pure raven]

Here are the poeple tied to the ancient kingdom: alabasta, has poneglyph stating the location of pluto. Shandia, has poneglyph with location of poseidon. Wano: has a road poneglyph and kozuki clan, the creators of poneglyphs and whose blood can control zunesha (uranus?). Fish-man island: has poseidon and a road poneglyph. Lunarians that used to live on god's land, unknown possessions (probably something that attracted celestial dragons). Zou, is on zunesha, has road poneglyph.

What did i miss

[split glacier]

I don't necessarily hold that same thought I mentioned above. Dragon probably has a unrelated wind/sky fruit or control over Uranus but I lean more towards Momo being Uranus or something. What ever it shall be~

[tawdry yoke]

Dragon supposedely has a thunderbird logia

[sand sail]

Dragon probably doesn't have Uranus at this point. It can't be a devil fruit, they don't really hold fruits in that regard, because if anything the Gura Gura would've been it.

[tawdry yoke]

cuz in some mythology, the bird is supposed to be able to control wind and storms

[sand sail]

It's probably not going to be Momonosuke, being able to control Zunesha isn't really an ancient weapon worthy thing unless there's a herd of them out there

[chrome spire]

So he’s Zapdos Luigia or Ho-Oh lol

[tawdry yoke]

Or by some miracle you’re able to coat zunesha in advanced haki

[sand sail]

Even then, it wouldn't really be worth it. Zunesha is fragile and weak at this point, and even on attack it isn't exactly an island destroying threat

[tawdry yoke]

True

Perhaps a supreme grade weapon from zunesha’s bones?

[sand sail]

Would maybe make for an interesting weapon, but if it's a candidate for ancient weapon kind of threat, it'd have to be something that could at least wipe the life off of an island I imagine

[pure raven]

Budget cuts

[little kelp]

why do you guys think Oda had specifically King and Queen fall off Onigashima?

[abstract pond]

Uranus was the titan of the sky in mythology so I doubt is an old elephant

[little kelp]

I feel like that’ll be something important for later down the road in Wano

[sand sail]

To alert people of what's happening below maybe

Or, just to show for sure that they're gone and out of the fight

[tawdry yoke]

‘The fall of the king and the queen’ kinda thing ig

[vivid forum]

completely baseless theory: this island they're on will explode into pink fireworks over the flower festival

[pure raven]

Hmm thats a really good question lets see. Well maybe because they're the number 2 and 3 in the pirate crew?

[little kelp]

yeah but, what’s Oda planning to do with them. Maybe getting captured by the WG?

[pure raven]

Like when sanji beat mr 2 and zoro beat mr 1

The number 2 and 3 in the organization

[pure raven]

Thats a totally unpredictable thing

Right now at least

[amber oar]

It's interesting that King and Queen received similar treatments, being fought and beaten by Zoro and Sanji in parallel. While Jack who is supposed to be the same rank, was treated differently and ended beaten by Inu (Not that I complain, after Jack recovered from the roof I argued that the minks deserved that W)

Jack is still at the island

[pure raven]

Why are y'all making a deal out of this. Imo this is pretty normal

[normal flame]

Do y’all think laws gonna cut mother Carmel out of big mom

[teal ivy]

Will Zoro/Sanji wake up and have at least one more fight in this raid ??

[pure raven]

Oda said that if you eat luffy you wouldnt get his df you would only get food poisoning. So theories about big mom eating mother caramel are not accurate

[pure raven]

Zoro is done for since pain doubles when mink meth becomes ineffective, and sanji was stated to need first aid. But zoro still has to finish off sanji so maybe he gets up or sanji calls him via den den mushi

Sanji needing first aid might mean he can still get up

Future is not really predictable

[teal ivy]

We need Zoro and Sanji to wake up , cause who’s gonna save robin from Cp0

[teal ivy]

Also there’s Hiyori and Orochi

[gray creek]

I’d love your take on how BM can use the soru soru no mi lol

[frozen roost]

She was on an island with lots of trees

[normal flame]

Oofff I wonder then if it’s kinda how BB got WB DF

[frozen roost]

She could’ve ate mother then some random apple became sour soru no mi and then she ate it

Op theory I’m so smart

[ancient vault]

Werent momonuskes clouds pink?

[pure raven]

There are waaaaay to many factors in onigashima right now and alot of unknown ones, like if the weapon ssg developed is on the wg ships, or if the "lurking legend" shows up, or if onigashima blows up,so i think its for the best that we stop trying to predict as anything can happen

[pure raven]

Robin and brook

[pure raven]

I really dont think they emptied the armory of weapons and filled it with fireworks just in case someone tries to blow it up

[pure raven]

Nope. The way BM got her df is probably different from the way BB got his, as BB obviously has something different

[sand sail]

That was a joke answer from the start of the series, it's not actually how it would work

[pine cloud]

I dont think so theres no other explanation for big mom to get the devil fruit

[plucky kiln]

Stupid theory:
Someone throws flying onigashima bomb so far from wano that it arrives in fishman island and destroys the kingdom (the prophecy of luffy destroying fishmanisland)

[pine cloud]

Bruv xD

[vivid forum]

I did say it was completely baseless, but it has gunpowder in it

[vivid forum]

Oh yeah I think they were. New dawn pink fireworks!

[pine cloud]

You think momonuske will ssve the people on onagishima to get down? O.o

Btw @vivid forum is ur profile resident evils umbrella?

[vivid forum]

I think it will all work out somehow? Yeah it is

[pine cloud]

Maybe the 28 years old momonosuke would be able to do something

[plucky kiln]

So about DFs:

We know that if the owner dies the fruits randomly appear somewhere. But we don't know when. WB died standing and so his DF could have just been respawned somewhere else, but BB had time to get it.
We also know that a knife has something to do with getting a DF from other people. Maybe its a normal knife to rip out the heart of the user, or maybe its some kind of special knife, like of seastone or idk.
And apparently eating someone alive can transfere the ones abilities to you.

[pure raven]

A joke used to contradict a popular theory at that time.

[pure raven]

Adds to the mystery doesnt it. I think oda has another explanation

[sand sail]

Still just a joke, and clearly something he rethought given the events in Big Mom's backstory. There's genuinely no other way she could've gotten the fruit there, and she did indeed eat a lot of people

[pure raven]

So what if its a joke. Still viable as proof

[pine cloud]

Yeah we kind of know have vague images about what happened

If it could be taken by eating specifc organ how bb got those fruits is explainable

[sand sail]

It's not. It wasn't even in reference to a series, it was a reader asking what would happen if they ate Luffy.

[gray creek]

Not when it’s directly contradicted by the source material

[sand sail]

It's not like the question was about what happens if anyone does, it was a joke.

[pine cloud]

But lets keep in mind that yami yami no attracts df

[plucky kiln]

Him achieving that goal would contribute to his status as a leader. Especially if he saves Wano and then the country can see him as an adult, reminding him of Oden. He would make a nice impression on everyone as the future shogun of wano

[sand sail]

It wasn't really a popular theory, it was asked because they were on the arc with Wapol

[pine cloud]

valid point

[pure raven]

Some D families passed something to their generations, like how waterlaws were always told to keep the D a secret. Maybe BB knows alot

[plucky kiln]

I'm really looking forward to Momo declaring "I WANT TO OPEN UP THE WANO COUNTRY" as odens last wish

And yes Kinnemon and the samurai will have a reason to live. Ussop sama motivated them to live again, but they most likely will be fascinated by momo as well and swear to serve him

[pine cloud]

You think df and d are connected?

[plucky kiln]

yeah. I think even Roger used to know at least some kind of secrets before discovering out the whole truth about D.

And Kureha also seem to know the meaning or importance of D. since she had a strong belief in "The Will of D"

[plucky kiln]

My guess is the Heart. After all its the most important Organ, and since a DF changes ones life so much it makes sense, to me at least.

[pure raven]

Probably no, but the ancient kingdom must have known alot about dfs

[pure raven]

She is 140 years old. So she probably noticed all these Ds in the history like rocks n shit

[pine cloud]

The most logical explanation(till now)

[plucky kiln]

There is a theory about Two Devilfruits Tree.
Adam & Eve. The WG's greatest treasure would be to have access on one Tree, and thats why doflamingo thought that if he would have been immortal he would be able to control the world with all the fruits of the tree

And maybe the other tree is in elbaf, being passed down from joy boy. and bb might be heading for elbaf to get that tree

[pine cloud]

There was a question circulating through my mind

[pure raven]

Nope. It was stated nothing was changed with wb's body so BB didnt dissect him and get his heart out

[pine cloud]

One of the 6 tobbi roppo (flying 6) wanted the gum gum fruit and shanks is there a specific thimk about it?

[plucky kiln]

Then I have another guess.
In Punk Hazard we saw an apple becoming a devil fruit. Maybe th devil fruit gets reborn in the next apple possible

[pure raven]

He wants to take revenge on luffy because he holds the gumo gumo fruit, whose robbery caused him to get imprisoned

[pine cloud]

they wouldve noticed thst the fruit is reborn at the same death location of the usrr

[plucky kiln]

Wait, so why did all of them had knifes ? BB and Burgess carried knives with them when they wanted to get the DFs

[plucky kiln]

I wonder how Doffy got the Flare Flare fruit

[pine cloud]

Yes ik but i mean why did he want it specifically ? Why did shanks want it and dkdnt use it or sell it

[pine cloud]

Yeah true that could be the key

[pure raven]

This is a stated fact not a theory. Devil fruits move their soul to another fruit at some part of the world. Smiley was probably an object with a devil fruit, so when he died his df went to a near fruit

[plucky kiln]

ic

[pure raven]

Pirate stuff. I remember clearly the marines saying that wb's body was not changed

[plucky kiln]

interesting

[pine cloud]

I wonder if it could be related to doffys secret thats making the wg afraid of him being alive

Tho i think its probablt cause onr of thr weapons in marie-joie

[plucky kiln]

@pine cloud

[pure raven]

Shanks wants the fruit for something we dont know yet. Who's who doesnt want the fruit, he wants vengance on the man who ruined his life, shanks. This is not possible so he redirected his revenge to luffy who holda the fruit and shanks' hat

[gray creek]

I think they mean the specific mechanics. Like for Smiley, it had to be an apple. That’s why Caesar had tons of nearby apples to recover the fruit

[pine cloud]

Implying thats what doffy knows?

[pure raven]

Ye maybe

[pine cloud]

Yeah true but shanks motivr is still unknown for the fruit i dont think its a coincidence

[pure raven]

Treasure tree adam is a rare tree used to create indestructible ships. Treasure tree eve is a tree that extends its roots to fish man island and provides sunlight for mysterious reasons

[plucky kiln]

Think about it. Doflamingo knowing about the existence of this tree is huge. and it kinda makes sense how he could rule over the world with Immortality + SecretTreasure.

And the tree giving light to fishman island (which actually is directly under marie joa) could be one of the 2 Devil Fruit trees

[pine cloud]

Ah yeah true that could make sense how doffy got the flare flare fruit

[plucky kiln]

Yes, but we don't know the whereabouts of Adam. Like I said, not my theory, but a damn interesting one

[pure raven]

Of course its not. It was clearly hinted that shanks wanted the fruit so badly that he went on and stole it from the world government

[pine cloud]

And why the wg is afraid of him

[pure raven]

Adam is not one tree

[pine cloud]

Oh sry u remember the chapted or the episode i dont remember it

[pure raven]

Its a species which is rare

[pure raven]

Titled: who's who vs jinbe. I dont remember the number

[plucky kiln]

well it still doesn't exclude the possibilities of the DF trees.

[pure raven]

I dont think adam and eve are connected to dfs but whi knows

[pine cloud]

Yeah i remember thebfight prolly didnt read this one

I only remember holding a grudge on the one ebo stole it

[plucky kiln]

I can only recommend to watch the theory.

Well Adam and Eve most likely are connected to eachother. And a DF Tree being the treasure of Marie Joa somehow fits in the picture.

It also explains the amount of DFs the WG has. Like DFs actually are rare things in the world, yet the CD's can use them freely on their slaves to play, The Marine got some strong DFs as well, and Spandam could just get some DFs from his sources to give them CP9.

And I like the relation to Joy Boy. Elbaf also seems to be a country not affiliated to the WG, and we also saw some mysterious huge thing looking like a huge tree on elbaf flashback from big mom. The Giants could have protected that tree all these centuries from the influence of the WG.

[pine cloud]

U have a link?

[plucky kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uHhb8NGbOY

[pine cloud]

Ty

[plucky kiln]

Ignore the clickbait. The creator makes some good points. Some are far reached out, but I think most of the things he says sound logical

[pine cloud]

That wojld make sense a lot

[mint kelp]

Oda had to make sure Ace dies early because he will die from his fathers inherited desease Gol D. Roger anyways.

[pure raven]

Nope i dont think so

[twilit dagger]

ok can someone give me a summary of the theories so far the past week

[plucky kiln]

So when the WG agents invade/surround wano after kaido is beaten. what happens ?

New alliances could be formed, after all, the warriors fighting each other would have the same enemy. I know they are weakened, but since they cant just run away, they will have to fight until all those WG agents are beaten. Maybe BM Pirates, Kaido Pirates and Luffys side will fight together. I mean they basically have to work together against the WG

Unless of course, some new parties join the game, like former pirates who were affiliated with the WB Pirates arrive in wano because marco wished them to, and they could handle the WG
or idk, maybe momonosuke just shifts away the entire country to another place so the WG cant come

[pure raven]

Good luck on that one

[split glacier]

I just realised Onigashima is Kaido's ship 😂

[lost cosmos]

the one piece is probably knowledge of the worlds history in the form of a story

[split glacier]

Jah rastafai

[pure raven]

Newgate Junior will die from sickness too? Or will he get dounted?

[mint kelp]

He's not even his actual son bruh

[pure raven]

WB's bastard wouldn't have WB's genetics?

Sucha baka

[gusty needle]

Yamato

[zinc jasper]

Idky but I think ryuo does more damage then advanced CoC, am I bugging or…

[zinc jasper]

Huh really?

[plucky kiln]

BTW

We still have all those pirate crews that were affiliated with WB of the new world
Maybe they could come to wano aswell because marco ordered it.

[vestal orbit]

they're too busy licking their wounds from the war with Blackbeard and running away from Weevil

[modest skiff]

When did he order what?

[pure raven]

Him and Shiki be floating around

[pure raven]

You think sabo just “killed” cobra and is now a fugitive who is to be killed on sight

[near osprey]

Sabo probably being put on the chopping block like Ace was, but before the WG gets the chance the RA saves him from Impel Down and boom Impel Down 2.0 happened around the time Luffy dropped Kaido

[pure raven]

Ohhhh

[near osprey]

He was fighting Fuji and Green Bull during Reverie no way he isn't being held for execution he's the 2nd in Command of the RA whom went to Reverie to declare war and free Kuma

[pure raven]

I feel like this is the best conclusion

Sabo being held for execution for the killing of cobra, but escaped and is now to be killed on sight

[near osprey]

Well at this point I imagine conflict between the RA and WG will escalate so at that point it doesn't matter

Dragon has to come in at some point much like Shanks does word is we're entering the final saga.

So that means at most 4 more arcs before OP is finally concluded.

The World already started to flip upside down when the Shicibukai we're abolished. Then you had Big Mom and Kaido ally with eachother.

But boom Monkey D Luffy shows up leading Wano Samurai and Worst Gen members against two standing Yonko. Taking them down....shit is really about to go down around the world.

Not only will people be moving for Kaido and Big Mom territories but the World Government is going to flip.

Actual pillars of the world are crumbling one after another.

[pure raven]

That is obvious since there is no way oda would just kill luffy's other brother. Besides wg was trying to hide this so i wonder what happened there. Sabo's invasion was tied to cobra's death so there is definitely something there

[robust sierra]

is cobra really dead? was it confirmed?

[pure raven]

I mean it isnt vivi

[zinc jasper]

Someone just told me appo killed Zoro, plss I hope that ain’t true 😢

[pure raven]

Sorry its true. The only way luffy could find true motivation to end kaido

[zinc jasper]

😭😭😭

My night as been ruined

RIP to my guy Zoro

[pure raven]

He landed a cheap shot at him while zoro was fighting king and killed him with his awakend fruit

Apoo's awakened fruit affects you if you hear it or not

[zinc jasper]

Damnnn zoro will never be forgotten 😞

[pure raven]

Yep

[robust sierra]

ok so Morgans said there's been a fatality and an attempted murder

[zinc jasper]

When

[robust sierra]

chapter 956

my guess is they wouldn't ask Morgans to shut up about it if it was catching sabo

so probably Vivi's dad or vivi was murdered

catching sabo who has a bounty would be something they'd want the world to know, so people don't form terrorist groups

cobra being a victim of attempted murder isn't as news worthy imo so he probably died going to the reverie, and that sends a message that's terrible to the world

[plucky kiln]

makes sense to me

[robust sierra]

PLUS Blackbeard says in response to the news: "If the Navy's only going to take it I might aswell claim the prize --> we know that he was hunting the Mera Mera before, so him saying that means he might be coming to collect whatever the navy took, in this case that's Sabo himself and the prize is the fruit

[plucky kiln]

I hope its cobra and not vivi

[robust sierra]

more likely to be cobra based on odas style

[plucky kiln]

yeah Im still trying to figure out what BB wants

[zinc jasper]

Do y’all think sabo is dead or captured? Or maybe he’s in an undisclosed location hiding?

[robust sierra]

only other news, is the abolition of the warlord system so the only thing the navy took could be a person or thing of importance that Blackbeard wasn't able to take because of lack of opportunity or knowledge

[robust sierra]

I showed my theory about it read up

[zinc jasper]

Aiit

[zinc jasper]

Hmmmm

Interesting theory tbh

[plucky kiln]

after all garp even confirmed that something regarding the alabasta kingdom has happened. something about blood being spilled

[zinc jasper]

Now I’m glad sabo isn’t involved… I hope

[robust sierra]

well it's just using logic it's not even so deep that I'd compare it to a very developed theory

like what the one piece is or something

[zinc jasper]

Hmm

[robust sierra]

and yeah, he said that if there's no blood spilling it's peace, but this reverie was bad in his eyes meaning someone of value had blood spilled

was the blood spilled in the attempted murder or the fatality? likely if it was attempted murder, it wouldn't be so bad that garp would say don't look at humans with fear, since he himself knows they attempted to kidnap shirahoshi infront of them

basically, attempted murder already was witnessed at the reverie because of charlos and lucci, but it got broken up

the WG would cover up an actual murder of a king after the reverie though, especially since Imu wanted to kill Vivi it seems, but then there's the matter of Cobra being old and sick, so did vivi his successor really die? I doubt it knowing Oda he probably died saving Vivi

[abstract tulip]

Vc anyone

[uneven elk]

Yo. But zoro already won against king right?

[robust sierra]

luffy Blackbeard and shirahoshi had their pictures cut up in Im's room, but vivi didn't and then something happens with alabasta, so I think Imu chose vivi to kill

as for how he did it who knows, but cobra having no successor except vivi and with him being sick and old means alabasta will not be able to continue its rule to the next generation without vivi, and I highly doubt Oda would do that

so based on these things, Blackbeard is coming to take Sabo's fruit, meaning hes been captured by marines and is probably being questioned or tortured, Cobra probably died and it's being covered up (like Pedro he was shown to perhaps not have much time anyways due to his mortality being questioned and his health declining, so it makes sense he'd die) and he did want to ask the WG about the poneglyphs aswell so it all connects, despite knowing it's a taboo subject.

what does this mean? the next development I foresee, is that Hancock is captured and sent as a slave in mariejois, after the government finds out she was a slave originally belonging to a CD. meanwhile Sabo is captured there aswell so luffy has to go help them both now post Wano. Blackbeard is going there which is great cause he'd be the next yonko on the list to beat considering he wants shanks last. that's where it can happen, while he couldn't save ace from Blackbeard he can try to save Sabo from him to show his progress

and then it all ties to sun god Nika, whoever that is

the next time he appears, it will show his/her face

and Nika is a mythical figure that freed all the slaves so who is it? idk but I think the legend is real since it's confidential info

now what does that mean, it means that whatever happens at mariejoas will result in the abolition of slavery due to this sun god Nika figure, and that ties to the removal of the celestial dragons

[pure raven]

this just sounds like headcanon

[robust sierra]

well yeah it's a theory

but if luffy catches wind of the news he is for sure going to where Sabo is if he's not dead

the "greatest war" will, in my opinion be held at mariejoas and that falls in line with the idea that it would be a world shaking event that makes marineford look tiny

[teal ivy]

Do you guys think Mihawk is the best Sensei in OP world..? He is calm, composed , and he was also able to figure out Luffy’s strength (getting strong allies ) during the marineford arc ??

[solar knoll]

I think Rayleigh is

He basically trained Shanks, Luffy

[teal ivy]

True true.

But now I’m wondering… who trained Mihawk…

[solar knoll]

Also Ray managed to train luffy COC. While Mihawk didn’t

I think Mihawk was just a prodigy

Now it seems pretty clear he must be up there in terms of strength like shanks

[teal ivy]

True …Uhm but I think we just have to wait for Zoro to have a Mihawk flashback…cause there’s no way Zoro is just immediately using ACoC with no training in regular CoC. It can’t be enma just taking his ACoC by itself …

[solar knoll]

But he was so clueless about his COC thou. I think Zoro was always holding back to let Luffy be the boss. So enma forced Zoro to use his kingly ambitions otherwise he is not worthy

[heady parrot]

i like the idea that we could have a luffy rescuing ace situation with rescuing sabo from mariejoa but instead of luffy failing like he did in impel down he’d rescue sabo at mariejoa, showing how much he’s progressed since then; now being strong enough to protect those he cares about. that way the rescue sabo situation wouldn’t take as long and the strawhats could still somehow fit elbaf into their journey lol.

[solar knoll]

In other words I think in order to wield Enma you must be a king

[solar knoll]

I would hate for Sabo to be captured tbh. But it’s likely to happen

[heady parrot]

yeah with the way the paper was worded he’s either reported dead and actually dead, reported dead but actually captured, or reported captured and actually captured. none of those options are too good for sabo. and two of them require luffy to intervene if he finds out.

[unborn onyx]

Makes sense

[solar knoll]

I think this is where the grand fleet will come into play

[heady parrot]

Sai was at Reverie so it’s totally possible the Grand Fleet could save Sabo. Sabo was in Dressrosa. Does anyone know if the grand fleet members know Sabo is Luffy’s brother?

[unborn onyx]

Luffy is about to pull a white beard

[heady parrot]

Because if they did, I could see Sai rallying them together to save Sabo and maybe that’s the explanation for why no members have shown up to save Luffy even though his card had to be burning for quite a few days in Udon prison and even more when he was knocked into the ocean.

[solar knoll]

Yes they know

Remember Barto called Sabo Dai Senpai?

So there is where I think the incident is happening

[muted ember]

Did the void century start or end 800 years ago?

[heady parrot]

Maybe that Barto cover story where he casually takes over Shanks’ territory was meant to be foreshadowing at the lengths the Grand Fleet will go in Luffy’s name. Casually essentially declaring war on shanks in luffys name is brash, and so would going to war against the world government in luffys name to save his brother. they will do what they feel is right even when it may not be.

[heady parrot]

i think it started 900 years from present day and ended 800. don’t quote me on that tho.

[muted ember]

I haven't read up but I like the idea he escaped w Sai or another grand fleet member

I love how Oda has all his characters interact everything is so well placed

[fresh brook]

what do you think is Kaido's ideal world?

[ripe geyser]

Where he is the “Joyboy” that is the only one with the power to change the world. Kaido then proceeds to start what is the greatest war the world has ever seen. He’s a beast that loves battle and war, after all he did try going to Marineford when it absolutely wasn’t necessary for him to do so. His crew is also named the Beasts Pirates, and is full of pirates that are generally aggressive in nature. Kaido and crew then fight a bunch of really strong opponents and triumph over them, and then Kaido eventually becomes the king of the pirates. This ideal world is something he knows is completely impossible, and we have yet to learn what made Kaido sure he couldn’t make his dreams into a reality

[pure raven]

pretty sure he explained it before. or the narrator did. kaidos perfect world is a pirate paradise where strength and violence rules all.

[ripe geyser]

I’m just interested in why he chose specifically Wano to set that up

I think we’re gonna get a lot of lore from Kaido’s main backstory

[pure raven]

im guessing due to his oni heritage as well as wanos natural defenses

[ripe geyser]

It can’t be that basic

[pure raven]

sometimes things are just that simple

not everything needs a super in depth lore reveal

[ripe geyser]

Kaido knows about Joyboy and we also know that Wano is very relevant to the ancient kingdom from 800 years ago

His reasons are definitely gonna be more than just “it’s hard for other people to enter, perfect”

Kaido directly mentioned that Wano is special

Wano is a huge arc and it’s made to bring the story to its final stage, of course the lore is gonna be expanded

[fresh brook]

sorry, some narration got lost to me. thanks for the reminder

[lunar violet]

Nika is from The myth Nike, Nike was named the goddess of victory, oda maybe took this idea

And when i went to the family tree of nike, uranus name was there

[topaz cipher]

So in reverie the news came out that vivi was a strawhat because wapol told them abt it. So vivi and sabo were captured by imu sama herself and she wanted to have a conversation with them in person before she sent them to impel down. And on the trip to impel down while they were still in Mariejois vivi escaped (well get to see vivis power up ) and helped sabo out too and they ran into kuma along the way and sabo called out to him but he didn’t do anything. Sabo tried to drag kuma with him but he wouldn’t move then the celestial dragon riding him got mad and shot kuma but before he would go out he told sabo to take his devil fruit. And the nearest fruit turned into the nikyu-nikyu fruit and he picked it up and ran and catched up with vivi and he grabbed her by the wrist and took her to an ally way for a breather and asked her if she could eat the fruit she was hesitant at first but ended up eating it in the end and she got paws and sabo asked her to think of any place in the world and to slap him and herself so they would get transported there and right when the marines found them they got teleported but their gonna float like that for 3 days and by that time the strawhats would have been sailing for elbaf and yeah that’s how she rejoins and we’ll get to see sabo on the sunny

[pure raven]

Now that’s a good theory

[topaz cipher]

Yeah i just really want vivi to talk to imu sama

[topaz cipher]

I think it’ll be really interesting

[sick adder]

Anything about imu will be hella interesting at this point

[noble basin]

Its quite far fetched and kuma is fully under control so they might have to forcefully kill kuma. And i dont think we might get to see Imu as Vivi was only a straw hat in alabasta and its been 2 years so i think they wont take it that seriously.

[glacial flare]

what are you guys thoughts on luffy gaining more of kaido's respect and potentially making him want to live/not die for the sake of doing battle with him more in the future

[topaz cipher]

She’d ask why the nefertair family didn’t want to join them up in mariejois

[noble basin]

But there are no affiliations and talk that connected them 2 for 2 years. I dont get why they would capture Vivi. Why not just capture Rebecca?

[cyan berry]

Because as far as we know, there's nothing relating to an ancient weapon in Dressrosa

[topaz cipher]

1: she still traveled with the strawhats.
2: the nefertari family used to be world nobels but left mariejois so that already puts a target on their back
3: there is an ancient weapon that is said to be in alabasta and since imu sama prolly knows abt the void century maybe she knows the truth of pluton
(Bonus: how did the alabasta kingdom manage to stay in power for so long from the same family even though there were probably many kingdoms who wanted their land? Because every hundred years pluton is born so it scares them off)

[noble basin]

They mentioned the last part?

[muted ember]

I think Alabasta is getting buster called

[robust sierra]

cobra said he'd bring up the topic of poneglyphs

I think he overstepped in doing that and the government got mad

[topaz cipher]

No just a little bonus theory

[desert abyss]

HOW did ODEN knew that there will be a battle exactly after 20 years?

[round cargo]

future sight

[amber oar]

now serious answer, something he learned in Laugh Tale

[solar knoll]

I am wondering something, CP0 was in touch with Orochi for weapons trade.

But I wonder how did Orochi get in contact with the WG. And why does Orochi and Kaido bother working with the WG. What do they need from the WG

I understand WG wants their weapons. And probably all the sea stone cuffs are also built the people in Wano.

[solar knoll]

Same way the sea kings knew their new kings will be born soon

[bitter kraken]

I’m assuming in exchange for the weapons the WG agreed to to stay out of wano and leave orochi to do what ever they want

[pure raven]

I have a better one: there's no need for her to eat kuma's fruit at all before getting to wano, since one of the revolutionaries has a flying ability and sabo has luffy's vivre card. Kuma can die on wano, close to the sunny, so that his fruit regenerates on Nami's orange trees

then she can eat it, since she also always had a particular relationship with nami

[topaz cipher]

So they’ll break kuma out?

[pure raven]

it's literally the reason why they're there isn't it

[topaz cipher]

Oh yeah

I really like yours

[topaz cipher]

But how will kuma die?

[pure raven]

I would guess either of natural causes or, you know, fighting in wano

or from a wound he got while in marijeoise

[topaz cipher]

Why would he be fighting?

[pure raven]

because there's a huge war in wano right now?

there's also the alternative of some unknown scenario playing out with vegapunk in case he's revealed to be with the cp0 (they're probably supposed to protect him after all so it's not that far of a stretch)

[topaz cipher]

But I think vivi eating the fruit right then and there makes more sense because wano is pretty far from mariejois

[pure raven]

I think that if a fruit were to be eaten by a member of the crew they'd show the moment when it happens on screen

[topaz cipher]

Flashback

[pure raven]

so it'd have to be in wano

[pure raven]

Wait pause

Why would vivi eat a fruit

[pure raven]

nah it's more impactful if it's on screen in the present

[pure raven]

because she always had the problem of being weak and she wants to go back to the SHs

[topaz cipher]

@pure raven

[pure raven]

plus, the 29 theory would be completed

in case anyone forgot about why vivi has to go back

[unborn onyx]

Future sight yes

[abstract pond]

I hope if Vivi returns she has trained somehow because she was weak

[topaz cipher]

Of course she did
I think after alabasta she saw how weak she really was and how much she had to depend on he friends so she started training right when the strawhats left and as she saw the things they did on the newspaper she knew that if she were to ever going to rejoin them she would have to be just as strong as the others
So she probably learned some knew things to do with her peacock slashers (I imagine them as bracelets she where’s at all times and when she needs to fight she presses a button on her bracelet that makes it turn into her peacock slashers but with more blades and another button makes the blades bigger.

Lemme draw that-

[pure raven]

OHHHH WHAT ABOUT BOA

if sabo and vivi are getting this much attention boa’s can’t just be going to jail right

@topaz cipher

[topaz cipher]

I think boa will be captured but she’ll escape

Because doflaming has newspapers so maybe he’ll read something abt Luffy defeating kaido out loud and she’ll break out to see her beloved

[spice berry]

What's that?

[desert abyss]

what way?

[shadow ruin]

I have a theory that the one piece will be a giant mirror, and that the true treasure is the crew and friends luffy made along the way. There is so much mirroring of characters and such that I think think would make sense. This theory would also explain why they laughed once they reached laugh tale.

[topaz cipher]

Sbs

[solar knoll]

Same way the sea kings were saying when Roger and oden was passing that it won’t be long now that both our kings will be born and more years to grow up

[desert abyss]

sorry but i don't get your answer.

[abstract pond]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-waiting-still-waiting-gif-13052487

[abstract pond]

If Boa is captured and Luffy rescues her, she is gonna die xd

[opal rivet]

yup

of a heart attack of seeing him

[opal rivet]

what about buggy, do you think luffy and him will meet again? Maybe towards the end

[abstract pond]

Yeah, Buggy will meet again definitely

[solar knoll]

Read back to the chapter when oden and roger passed through the fishman island

[pure raven]

i think oda is surprised at how deep the community will go lol

[pure raven]

kaido is joyboy

[safe patrol]

bruh

[split glacier]

Do you guys think Chopper can/will reverse the effects of Smile DFs?

[plucky kiln]

What if the so caalled legendary cherry blossom from hiriluk is something chopper finds on wano and uses it to heal the people

[swift panther]

Depends. If wano has an ending that is

[split glacier]

It would make sense for that to be Wano as the Cherry Blossom is the Japanese national flower. Pretty sure theres a pink tree in Wano unless Kaido burned that down

Not to mention the Roger and Kureha connection, the Roger and Hiluluk connection. Roger having his last chat with WB around Cherry blossoms.

[ancient vault]

Hiruluk was in the west blue tho

[ripe geyser]

Everyone’s waiting for Shanks and Luffy to meet again but what about Shanks and Buggy

[zinc jasper]

If boa gets captured, it’ll be depressing cuz of her past with being a slave

[zinc jasper]

They met back at marineford

[zinc jasper]

Most likely tbh

[zinc jasper]

Hmmm

[golden viper]

they didn't actually meet

[zinc jasper]

Shanks and buggy met at marineford

Luffy didn’t meet shanks at marineford

[shadow ruin]

So what do people think the next ark will be, I have a feeling a massive war instead of elbaf

[agile jetty]

These characters might hint rocks df powers

[pure raven]

Firstly, I just can't imagine the current Luffy beating Kaido, and the same goes for Law and kid against Big Mom. However there the two Yonko needs to be defeated/eliminated in order for the storyline to go toward its final phase. From what we have read in the last chapters, it seems that Kaido not only knows a lot about Joy boy, he is even inspired by him to the point where he thought of becoming Joy boy himself.
But from kings flashback in the last chapter, it seems that Kaido, later on, has become more doubtful about himself being able to be Joy Boy, not because of lacking strength and power, since King has said to Kaido in the flashback to continue being the strongest, which means that Kaido has been thinking of himself being the strongest. But still, Kaido doubted himself being able to become JoyBoy, maybe because in order to become Joy Boy you need to have other things, not only power. Maybe you need to have the ability to attract the people around you which is the case of Luffy but not Kaido since he already said to Yamato that she can't have friends because she is an Oni, and those who claim to be her friends are only afraid of her. I think that Kaido was actually saying that because he experienced that in the past.

[shadow ruin]

Luffy has never lost

[ancient vault]

I think the note of attracting ppl to follow you isnt synonymous to making friends

[shadow ruin]

Its time for Oda to throw a change up

[ancient vault]

what cover stories

yeah which ones

[shadow ruin]

If luffy beats kaidou then he’s effectively the strongest

[ancient vault]

lol

hows that foreshadowing

[slate mirage]

I mean, we're in winter

Maybe that's why there are many winter coverpages

[ancient vault]

Idc if these are your main justifications or not. These are not any kind of foreshadowing.

[slate mirage]

But?

[ancient vault]

You just cherry picked some coverpages when I could post 20 cover pages within that chapter range thats not on a snowy/ice island

[pure raven]

However, in the second duel between Kaido and Luffy, after throwing Luffy out of Onigashima, Kaido said to Luffy '' even you can't become Joyboy'' which means at some point, he had a doubt about Luffy.
Know here is how I think the scenario will be. Luffy will give Kaido a good fight but he will be defeated. Kid and Law will be defeated by Big mom. Somehow Yamato will get to the area where Luffy and Kaido are. She will fight her father and she will get defeated as well, but at the same tame Kaido will get his hands on Oden's journal which he has never seen before, and he will read it, then he will have a discussion with Yamato which will conclude by Kaido being convinced that Luffy is the one destined to be JoyBoy. After that, he will give a last order to Yamato to take Luffy and everyone out of Onigashima while he will take care of big mom (this alliance is destined to be broken one way or another). While everyone escapes out thanks to Momo Kaido will take the island full of explosions somewhere else while fitghing big mom and eventually he will drop it somewhere and achieve his goal of dying and killing big mom with him

[ancient vault]

Ah I had the same thought in my big Kaido theory. Yeah better forget the coverpages. They dont help u

[slate mirage]

Why is it important for the strawhats to know

[ancient vault]

It goes inline with Kaido being in Ringo for some reason 23 years ago

[ancient vault]

Ay man at least let him finish his theory 😭

that boy got 500 alts tho

Looshy sneaking in a theory

just before I start reading. You should try implementing images and sectioning or at least paragraphing ur theories. Then its a lot better to read than just plain text

Okay so the one tribe going down alone actually comes first in the cover story so it might make sense (obviously if enel read them in a chronically correct order)

But I dont really understand the celestial dragon connection here.
The celestial dragon were created out of the 20 families that helped out Im during the war. The World Government being created happened around the same time of the Celestial Dragons being born.

The symbol youre speaking reminds me more so of a dragon foot which is why I theorized in the past about dragons living on the redline and stuff like that. Since we already know the Celestial Dragons have a fascination with Dragons as they ordered Vegapunk to create artificial Dragons.
In fact you just gave me a good idea which I will write down after I address ur points.
I like the idea of implementing all moon tribes into the void century like that but idk if I agree or can see where youre coming from.

Im just really confused on the celestial Dragon part because that term as far as we know didnt exist before this

[modest skiff]

I have read this situation a bit differently. Rather than all the groups you described coming from the moon, I have been assuming Clover's depiction of lots of moons being similar to how humans used to think Earth was the center. I think some races came from the moon and other races came from other planets. I think some races may have worshipped the sun, but my other interpretation is that perhaps Lunarians themselves were worshipped similar to the sun, since they could control fire.

yeah i agree. I think its possible there was some kind of guarded resource/power

I haven't decided which races I think were there to begin with, but I am pretty sure giants were one of them, since they appear to live on a giant world tree

[modest skiff]

@pure raven I also agree with your basic premise that themes throughout the story will mostly end up related to the void century. As an example, when Fisher Tiger describes himself rejecting human blood because there is a devil inside him that can't ever forgive humans, I think we are intended to draw a parallel to the ocean rejecting devil fruit users due to some sort of catastrophic event or betrayal of the planet/ocean

I definitely think it has to do with the ocean itself having some kind of spirit/soul which hates devil fruits. One of my totally baseless theories is that the planet was colonized for devil fruits, then the evil colonizers used the devil fruits in some bad way that made the ocean reject the souls/spirits within devil fruits, which means devil fruit users can't swim because they are being rejected by the ocean

[sand sail]

The Adam and Eve trees don't actually seem to have anything to do with devil fruits

The ancient kingdom isn't too far off from the giants as far as generations go as well, their tree would more likely be Yggdrasil, not Adam or Eve either way

[bronze palm]

Is Kid theorized to be one of the D members

[pine hemlock]

Prince*

[last lily]

One piece is strange

my new thought was how oda could show how strong bond between captains and crew members of a yonko goes . Too show something like you can't make it this far with out a deep loyalty to your crew . But he hasn't with big mom or kaido . Im guessing kaiso has respect for king .

[near beacon]

World Government controls the yonkou system by using their front man and puppet Shanks. They want all 4 to deadlock each other so none becomes strong enough to reach laughtale/one piece. Cp0 has clearly infiltrated all of the yonkou crews. By being present at big mom's tea party to dealing with Doflamingo/Orochi for weopans & being able to follow blackbeard all the way to the secret Baltigo island.

Moreover, the big fish ie yonkou to feed on the small ones i.e worst generation + others

Very convenient for the Govt to let the pirates take each other out, also from the looks of it the Government allowed blackbeard to become the yonkou. They wanted pirates to eliminate and weaken/fight each other for the position as they immediately started speculating for the next one after the war.

[abstract trellis]

Rayleigh could have been the WSS before Mihawk, Mihawk was 19 during Roger's execution, and while Roger was King of the pirates Rayleigh has had a sexy purple outfit as well as used 3 different sword types and duel weilded as well, Rayleigh is only 35 years older than Mihawk so during the years inbetween Roger's execution and Luffy getting saved is probably when Mihawk got named WSS as Rayleigh didn't do much anymore since Roger's death, Rayleigh was nicknamed the Dark King usually because of his proficiency in haki, and we seen Rayleigh fight with a sword it's only possible he was the WSS (not officially titled) before Mihawk obtained the title now Mihawk is 43 and Rayleigh is 78, since Roger was king of the pirates Rayleigh being the WSS at the time would make sense while Luffy becoming the Pirate King, Zoro having the ambition of becoming the WSS it's a good parallel

[brave coyote]

true

[abstract trellis]

besides Jewlery Bonny and the hobi hobi user there must be other immortal characters after the past ope ope users making someone immortal, how else would doflamingo know about this? it's a secret of the ope ope no mi that most do not know about, there could definitly be more than 1 immortal person as a result of 1 or more ope ope no mi user sacrifices and Brook may also be immortal now

[sand sail]

@torpid holly This channel is for more formal discussion, go ahead and take a read of the channel description pls

[amber oar]

So you're telling me that the guy who stopped Kaido from intervening in Marineford, tried to stop Ace from facing Teach, stole a fruit from a government ship, got distracted while some kid ate it under his nose (kid that, btw, he groomed into becoming a pirate that would take the grand line by storm and would wreck a government facility) is part of a government plot for pirates to destroy each other. Cap

[modest skiff]

I think the Gorosei think Shanks is their guy, but in reality, he is playing them to give Luffy time to grow big enough to overthrow them

[amber oar]

"Shanks is a WG plant" believers should have realized by now the Elders would have sent him to the shadow realm as soon as he let some 7 year old kid steal and eat the fruit he also stole from a WG ship

And the Elders definitely don't think he's "their guy"

[modest skiff]

can you clarify that panel jugol?

[amber oar]

that's when Shanks went to talk with the Elders.
They accepted, but still said he had no business being there. That doesn't sount at all like someone that is the WG's guy

[modest skiff]

His standing, because he's a pirate. a pirate can not participate in politics, but since the gorosei think they are showing him mercy, they think they can say "piss off kid, you might make us look bad"

[hidden tinsel]

I feel that, but when they said since its you we'll make an exception, wonder what ties Shanks has with the government

[amber oar]

Exactly, a pirate. Not a spy posing as a pirate.

If any, the wording suggests they made an exception for him as an individual, rather than because he belong to this or that group. Maybe they have a deal, maybe he's indeed a CD, maybe he know something or maybe simply they know he's measured enough to talk with

[modest skiff]

good thoughts, won't pretend i have any evidence either way, so we'll just wait and see imo

[pure raven]

Do we have any other mention of these monster ? Hawkins mention this at an unknown iskand somewhere in grand line probably in new world?

As preeviously it has been mentioned 2 times onece about on skypiea which turned out to be a shadow of skyfolks and other at the end of thriller bark

[modest skiff]

The shadows from skypiea and the shadows near water7 are 2 different things, IIRC. Someone correct me if I'm wrong

[sand sail]

You are correct

The shadow from Skypeia was the shadow of sky islanders through the clouds, Luffy makes one

[modest skiff]

Thanks bean. Not sure I buy the theory that the water7 shadows are feet from yet another Zunesha, since we do see bright spots, but who knows.

[junior cape]

The Florian Fog monsters are complete unknowns. The only in-world info we have on them is from sailor legends, and those are likely thought of as exaggerated. However, they certainly are NOT sky island shadows, since the Florian Triangle is too dark and foggy, and there is no sky island in the area. Nor are they elephant feet; they are too different in shape, and they have eyes that can pierce the fog. My guess is that they are some ESPECIALLY massive Neptunians, who stick to the shadows and hunt ships for food. Perhaps they were Oda's first concepts of a legendary Kraken...

[slate mirage]

What water 7 shadows?

[lunar violet]

Kaido already beat luffy two times, and it will make sense if luffy beats kaido because hes been holding up a mountain while fighting luffy, fought kinemon and his people, then fought zoro and law and luffy, and luffy got destroyed, and then now is fighting luffy again, kaido is stronger than luffy but kaido is very tired, so luffy wont be the strongest even after he beats kaido

bro if yall have a translator or something you should 100 percent watch Arabic theories, there theories are the best

[torpid mist]

The second King flashback is really throwing me. I'm getting the sense Kaido was lying to King in the first flashback to get his cooperation, kind of an parallel to his lying to Oden about leaving Wano. I would bet this theme of long game betrayal will be huge in Kaido's backstory.

[tranquil swan]

The Florian triangle monsters would remain unknown throughout the series I guess since we do not know much about irl florian triangle it was just shown there to be explaining how vast op world is and there are no chance from where the manga currently is that they are gonna go back to thriller bark again

[pure raven]

We will get detailed info about them later in the series

[tranquil swan]

hope so 🙌

[solemn ferry]

Can u pls recommend me one? I can understand arabic

[lunar violet]

A guy called odacchi, not all his content is about theories but his theories are amazing, dm me if you want the best ones, also a guy called mohhamed oden, same thing as the first guy dm me if you want his best theories

[ancient vault]

Onis

Monster were mentioned in skypiea in another before already

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/813072644807196763/888050168128221204/unknown-29.png

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/813072644807196763/863113605414780928/unknown.png

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/813072644807196763/863114406309134366/unknown.png

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/813072644807196763/863009580685590550/unknown.png

Giant beast race in Punk Hazard (yeti cool brothers)

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/813072644807196763/863111909096292392/unknown.png

[pure raven]

So did we found who those monster were behind sanji

Damn need to read one piece again cant remeber much

[ancient vault]

Those were the wolves. But he wasnt ralking about them.

Interestingly enough he says giant beasts are afraid of fire and guess who else is afraid of fire? Yetis who are part of the giant beast race

[pure raven]

So could sanji know something about giant beast possibly with germa and all that ?

As he talked about giant beast afraid of fire
Or possibly common knowledge?

[ancient vault]

Could be, but nami knew about it too. I think its just a common myth

[pure raven]

K

[raw grotto]

https://twitter.com/zukudaking/status/1475950427631849473

ZUKU (@zukudaking)

RETURN OF ROCKS/End Of Wano Super Theory:
A thread on the Final Villain of One Piece

Twitter · Dec 28, 2021, 10:02 PM

[worldly anvil]

Totally real

[river plaza]

Oh boy

[raw grotto]

Who said anything about it being real

[tardy pulsar]

i actually like this theory

and i know morj would to too since it involves the raid failing

[pure raven]

[plucky kiln]

Three worlds. Blue Sea, White Sea(and white white sea of course) and Underwater

Blue Sea: Pluton
Underwater: Poseidon
Sky/Moon: Uranus.

[radiant quarry]

Kaido came to the conclusion that ace was joyboy and went to marineford to prevent his death but after failing he became the person we first knew him as which is a suicidal drunk

[plucky kiln]

and shanks was like "It's not him. He isn't the man you're waiting for"

[devout cosmos]

[swift panther]

World government has more chance to take the spotlight. Cp0 is here they're strong asf

[languid tartan]

I really like this theory a lot. This would lead to a far faster pace. But it would be sad to see wano be destroyed

[cyan berry]

@pure raven for future reference, keep other series spoilers and references in #other-series

[pure raven]

**
why shanks is the weakest yonko :

1. Why it can't be Kaido

-Kaido is unarguably the strongest Yonko

"Our enemy is the strongest Pirate in the world" Killer
"Damn right" Kid's reply
Keep in mind that both of them have already fought the Red-haired Pirates.
"I came here to cut down Kaido, the one known as the strongest in the world" Zoro
"Island of the strongest" chapter 997's title
"Wororororo I'll show you the power of the strongest in the world" Kaido to the Red Scabbards.
"If It's one on one, bet on Kaido, that's what people say" Narrator.
-Kaido has absolutely 0 narrative relevance other than strength, his character is just strength,strength,strength, take that away from him and he's the most boring of the four.

2. Why It's most likely not Bigmom either

-Was shown to be a match for Kaido for a 13 hours fight in which she was fighting without ZEUS.
-"She is a foreign captain whose strength rivals Kaido" "So there's two Kaidos now?" samurais on Bigmom at Onigashima
-She almost never gets injured.
-Kid's alliance chose to go after Shanks instead of Bigmom (who they already failed against) and Kaido (who is the strongest Yonko)

3. Why it could be Teach but It's unlikely

-BB has a lot of room to grow and has only become a Yonko a year ago, meaning he could currently be the weakest
-BB has the most plot relevance out of all Yonko because he is Final Villain material
-BB is the most unique Yonko having 2 dfs .
-BB already left a life-long injury on Shanks before he even ate a DF.
-It is foreshadowed that Teach and Shanks will fight each other in the future and if there's to be a loser it won't be Teach as he's FV material.

4. Why it makes sense for Shanks to be the weakest Yonko
   -Shanks' crew is highlighted instead of him chapter 957 when they reveal his bounty,
   -He is the youngest of the four and already at an handicap due to losing an arm.
   -Narratively, Shanks doesn't need to be the strongest to be relevant to the story
   Yeah bois : he is the weakest
   **

[ornate mesa]

Shanks fans aren't ready to hear this

[severe edge]

how do you think shanks stopped kaido from interfering with the marineford war and not have any casualties

[pure raven]

By stalling him

[ornate mesa]

Probably just gave him sake tbh

[pure raven]

It was just a clash

[ornate mesa]

Shanks is the type of guy to avoid fighting if he can

[pure raven]

Kaido wasn’t willing to have a full on war with shanks full crew and just him and king, that would be a waste of time

[sand sail]

Shanks isn't the type to avoid fighting unless it's a fight not worth having

[severe edge]

quite stupid if you think you can just avoid fighting kaido by offering him sake when he has better goals to chase

[ornate mesa]

Well regardless it's pretty clear they didn't have a full on fight because their crew is spotless

[pure raven]

Impenetrable crew

[sand sail]

What better goals? A fun fight? Kaido's overarching goals were above and beyond Marineford, it would've been easy to deter him

I imagine he was drunk going there anyway

[pure raven]

Why?

[ornate mesa]

cus hes always drunk lol

[sand sail]

Because that's the kind of irrational thing he would do while drunk, and that would make it easy to deter him

[pure raven]

Probably wanted to avenge rocks

[sand sail]

I doubt Xebec mattered at all in that way lol

[severe edge]

it's rational enough for kaido to back off of it knowing he's probably the one to have more casualties going on a full on fight with shanks (not saying shanks would defeat him just saying it wouldn't be worth fighting shanks at sea where he has the upper hand as well)

[pure raven]

Nah kaido probably hated wb for betraying the rocks crew and wanted to kill him himself

But in all the less respected wb for how he died

[sand sail]

Kaido probably wouldn't have cared if that's what happened, the Rocks pirates hated each other

[pure raven]

If he was drunk he would have cared

[sand sail]

Kaido would have the upper hand at sea, but yes, if Kaido was drunk then him being deterred makes a lot more sense. One or two blows from Shanks would sober him up quick and get him to see how he was about to mess up his own future plans

Why would he have cared? lol

[pure raven]

Because he’s drunk

[sand sail]

That doesn't mean he'd care about Rocks at all. What he would care about is not getting to fight in the biggest war of the Great Age.

[pure raven]

Ehhh...ok i accept defeat

[severe edge]

makes sense tbh

[slate mirage]

Maybe Shanks alone can't defeat Kaido ,but with his crew? Why not?

Ben Beckmann could be as strong as Shanks

And the officers really close in strength

And as far as we know,only King accompanied Kaido to marineford

[proven sand]

i still think yamato asked kaido to interfere

[severe edge]

pretty sure kaido wouldn't give a fuck about yamato's request

[pure raven]

Of course he can with his crew.

[pure raven]

Yeah why would he save someone who wants to overthrow him. Unless? Did he think ace ia joyboy? That would make sense tbh

After all he seems to want to meet joyboy

[tidal pilot]

shheesssh

[severe edge]

just the fact that ace even got into that much trouble would make kaido think he isn't considering he lost faith in luffy after getting defeated by him once even after he had shown almost yonko levels of capabilities

[still marten]

I personally think he's stronger, he has very little screen time (probably due to how strong he is) and unlike any other yonko we barely know anything about him or his strength

[visual merlin]

Im sure all 4 are about the same strength

[pure raven]

?

[wary fossil]

didn't shanks fight kaido?

[pure raven]

Yonko? Oh yeah kaido is just the strongest out of them

But they’re all relatively the same strength

[muted ember]

I don't think they fought, Kaido probably accepted he couldn't beat Shanks whole crew

[near beacon]

Every yonkou has some unique ability, i dont think Shanks can only use adv versions of the three haki

[plucky kiln]

Noah was probably made for Fishman Islands population to escape on since they might have predicted Fishman islands destruction when joy boy appears. maybe thats what joy boy has been apologising for to former poseidon

[plucky kiln]

I mean the other emperoros are trained haki masters and have overpowered devilfruits
Shanks only has haki and a sword and red hair. same goes for garp

[visual merlin]

They probably did fight a bit

or else kaido wouldn't have shanks in that panel from 1001\

[sand sail]

We're told they fought, so that's true

[visual merlin]

so I imagine they fought enough that Kaido realized Shanks can take him on and potentially win

[muted ember]

With Shanks it's emphasized that his strength is his crew. Not to say he's not strong, he doesn't need to be as strong as Big Mom and Kaido bc his crew is stronger than theirs

[sand sail]

Could also be that Shanks fought Kaido years ago and just saw his potential

[muted ember]

We're told they fought during Marineford?

[visual merlin]

they had a scuffle apparently

[plucky kiln]

I mean how should they know. all they could is speculate

[sand sail]

Yeh, just the day before the war

They saw it and someone reported on it

[visual merlin]

I think its most likely that incident is where kaido realized shanks is that strong

[sand sail]

The government keeps tabs on the Emperors

[plucky kiln]

this couldve been a normal yonko split the sky clash lol

[visual merlin]

I mean, yea sure it could've been

[plucky kiln]

and then they go drinking

[visual merlin]

but again, kaido has shanks up in the 1001 panel

[muted ember]

Lol

[visual merlin]

so at some point something must've convinced kaido that shanks is that strong

[plucky kiln]

really love that panel

[sand sail]

Shanks could have beaten him some time in the last 12 years

Maybe even just before he became an Emperor

Since Kaido envisions him with his scar

[visual merlin]

Yea but that's more of a stretch, at least it sounds less likely than a confrontation we know happened

[plucky kiln]

lol BM wasnt there. maybe she was but she is too fat and is in the background

[muted ember]

I feel like that panel was misplaced it should've been after he got advanced conquerors

[near beacon]

Yes so Shanks could have something unique. Also i think there are more than 3 forms of haki. Two more could be Endurance haki which would allow you to have high levels of stamina and being able to fight for multiple days and Speed related haki, so you could move very fast. Maybe shanks is capable of doing a timeskip or moving when time is static or something

[visual merlin]

good point actually, assuming all those characters there have ACoC it would've been better off in 1010

[ionic rivet]

Do you think the ordering of the legends has significance

[plucky kiln]

I mean we saw him flexing his speed while sitting. back then it appeared to be something to demonstrate shanks power but maybe there is something about it

[plucky kiln]

never thought about that but I actually would see roger and whitebeard at the peak. xebecs bounty hasnt topped him, and I think Whitebeard and Roger became the strongest pirates all time after god valley. and Id love that

[near beacon]

Maybe CoC could be applied to not just your CoA/weopan but also to stamina or speed

[plucky kiln]

never thought about that but I actually would see roger and whitebeard at the peak. xebecs bounty hasnt topped them, and I think Whitebeard and Roger became the strongest pirates all time after god valley. and Id love that

[visual merlin]

Well we know roger and WB are the top pirate bounties ever, unless you meant that as in you'd rather it be higher

?

[plucky kiln]

I hope not. Sure Xebec must have been really strong if took both garp and roger. but I think and hope Roger and Whitebeard have surpassed him. after all Roger became the pirate king, and whitebeard ..became a cool guy who was named the worlds strongest man.
Whitebeard and Roger symbolized the top of piracy since the begin of the manga

and even if xebec might have been stronger which I doubt. it is safe to say that the greatest pirates to have ever lived were: Whitebeard and Shanks

[visual merlin]

Well no, he didn't seem unaware of that stuff, and sengoku was right there to correct him

roger and Wb just indeed have the highest pirate bounties

[grim pine]

we never know until oda reveals the god valley incident

[plucky kiln]

sure but yet I don't see Xebec as a great pirate, like I mean he was one, but his goal was totally different. whitebeard and roger are what pirates make out

[grim pine]

yeahh you are definitely right
but i thought we were talking about powers here,right?

[plucky kiln]

yeah kinda mixed both lol

[grim pine]

xDD

[visual merlin]

They had just talked about the rocks pirates, they still count as history. And "sengoku didn't say because oda didn't want him to say" doesn't make any sense, they were just talking about rocks man, if rocks had a higher bounty he'd say something about it, not that Brannew probably wouldn't know anyway. This is too much gymnastics, Rocks just has a lower bounty and thats fine

[grim pine]

yepp

[plucky kiln]

maybe there wasn't a term back then to describe his actions.
Nowadays all (relevant) pirates want is to find one piece and become king.

but back then it was probably a term for criminals not following rules and opposing the world

[grim pine]

might be the case

[visual merlin]

We know it is, they just have the top bounties, maybe rocks is 3rd or whatever, but we don't need to doubt they're above him

[grim pine]

i think he was a revolutionary

[grim pine]

ig wb bounty rised coz he was with rocks
dont get me wrong WB is a total beast
but rocks gave him a platform kinda thing

[visual merlin]

uh

[grim pine]

https://youtu.be/MLysoGH_2tY

[visual merlin]

He probably jusr got his bounty on his own, same as roger

[plucky kiln]

I like the thought of Vegapunk being the head of S.W.O.R.D
Kuma as a revolutionary seemed to have trust him, and Dragon did trust Kuma
Vegapunk until now wasn't hyped as a villain or bad person, but as great genius
Yet he still is responsible for the birth of another weapon of the government, the SSG
so his intentions remain a mystery

But overall I would prefer vegapunk being a good perosn

[modest skiff]

I think he's a good person and is essentially using the WG to bide his time. I dunno if I've linked you my Vegapunk/Kuma theory before, but here it is #manga-theories message

[plucky kiln]

thats a cool thought ngl

but if its true that means the situation would turn to be good for the good side. most of the time only the bad people get these power ups. but I still like the theory

if it should be true then the WG is completely fucked up and Vegapunk will deserve the role as the biggest traitor

[pure raven]

kaido joyboy?

[pine cloud]

I watched the adam and eve tree theory

Makes sense but the awakening of the clear clear fruit sounded cheesy (i mean come on wouldnt anyome bump into it or anything)

[plucky kiln]

I agree haha

but the basic idea sounded interesting to me

I wonder if oda will somehow go further into devilfruits and adman&eve

[pine cloud]

Yeah specially explaining the light at fishman island and bow they edited usopps lines in tbe anime

[plucky kiln]

yes

[pine cloud]

Now lets keep it close wheres the 4th ponelgliff

Is it with the wg? RA? Shanks.

[upper orchid]

no it is at the worst area to get to

it is on sniper island

[zinc meteor]

I think there are different versions of cocting when it comes to brawlers and pure swordsman.

Swordsman
Zoro & Oden:

• couldn't use defensive cocting
• infuses attacks with coc (probably an advance ver. of "lion song" where Zoro can hear the voices of objects)

Brawler
Luffy, Kaido, Yamato(?), Whitebeard, Shanks(?), Bigmom(?) Roger(could be a brawler, as seen when Roger and Garp are fighting together):

• has defensive cocting.
• can split skies upon collision of cocting(?)

[upper orchid]

ok

what is blackbeards 3 fruit gonna be?

[visual merlin]

what are you calling defensive cocting?

[zinc meteor]

kaido's tough skin
luffy's increased durability
the invisible force

[bitter grail]

I think he’s gonna come in at the end of wano and take kaido’s

[visual merlin]

but kaido's tough skin is from his fruit, and luffy always had increased durability from his fruit, there's no space between the attack and their bodies when they get hit

[grizzled fog]

Luffy’s not more durable thanks to cocting, neither Is kaido

[visual merlin]

its the same reason only Kaido and BM have that iron skin

So yea they're infusing their attacks with it, Luffy says it himself too back in 1010, and the sky split thing is sort of just a symbolic feat

[zinc meteor]

hmmm. Before, Luffy can't even take one smash of kaido though?

[visual merlin]

nah he was already able to take some hits

[grizzled fog]

You mean in act one? Yea he’s gotten more durable since then, but that’s not due to cocting

[zinc meteor]

since when?

[visual merlin]

I mean, for one we saw him just fly through a boro breath

in any case, there's a lot of different things that are saying there's no "defensive" cocting

[zinc meteor]

luffy dodged most of the attack yet he is still down from pain

[visual merlin]

I mean he got right back up and kept fighting

[zinc meteor]

he is obviously not league apart when it comes to durability since act one. It is amplified from cocting i believe

[visual merlin]

There's not much indication of that, and with all the other things it doesn't really add up

[zinc meteor]

the diff. between here and when he learned cocting is way too far though

[visual merlin]

eh, we see the same thing with other characters

[zinc meteor]

literally luffy is taking blows with kaido rn

[visual merlin]

law somehow tanked a cocting thunder bagua

and seems to be fine

But still, if it were defensive cocting there would be a space between an attack and their body, but when say characters attack him they actually touch kaido

[zinc meteor]

for me, law only managed to take that because zoro took the hit first

[visual merlin]

another thing, if cocting were the reason for BM and Kaido's durability, they wouldn't be the only 2 people who have it

[visual merlin]

even then thats still very strong

[visual merlin]

but to continue this, people like shanks roger wb etc don't have their tough skin, even with cocting

there's just a lot of reasons against this

[zinc meteor]

honestly, take the thick skin aside. I don't mean it that way

[unborn onyx]

Wdym

[zinc meteor]

just wanna say that their passive defense is strong because of constant use of cocting

[visual merlin]

But their thick skin is their entire defense

they don't have any special defense outside of it, and if they did it'd still make a gap between them and the incoming attacks

Even when luffy describes the ability he says its the ability to infuse attacks with CoC

[zinc meteor]

ok, then lets trash that defensive cocting type. Let's just say that they can use cocting throughout their entire body at some point. In which enhances their durability significantly

[visual merlin]

Bro thats the same thing

[zinc meteor]

in this panel, luffy used his invisible cocting as a defensive measure

no way he simply tanked that and went right back up

[visual merlin]

do you think that just because he survived the hit?

[zinc meteor]

kinda

[visual merlin]

if law can take "half" of a cocting thunder bagua, Luffy can take some normal cocting swings

I don't think just because luffy is able to take these hits that there must be any sort of defensive cocting

[visual merlin]

and I know you said say this instead, but thats the same exact idea behind defensive cocting

[zinc meteor]

kaido using defensive cocting

[visual merlin]

serious theories only please

[visual merlin]

anyway, this is just kaido getting hit by cocting, we see this gap from every cocting hit

same thing happened with Page one

[zinc meteor]

prob.

[visual merlin]

if the cocting were defensive we'd see that gap when he's getting hit by something that isn't cocting, but we don't, he just gets hit directly

[zinc meteor]

i dont understand how it cant work like that though

[visual merlin]

what do you mean?

[zinc meteor]

if what ur saying is true that luffy just somehow became tankier, instead of an actual reason

[visual merlin]

he didn't become tankier, its the same as the other characters

Law as far as we know didn't do anything to become this tanky, yet he is

[zinc meteor]

he definitely became one. Even faster

[visual merlin]

and we don't see him faster either, plus what would the argument even be there? Its not like cocting is gonna increase speed

[zinc meteor]

last time, he cant even completely dodge a thunder bagua. But now, he's blocking it

[visual merlin]

he didn't stop any thunder bagua

he's getting blocked and slapped away by normal swings

and that won't help anyway, because unless you're going to argue cocting increases speed, that would just be showing that characters sometimes just grow seemingly

[zinc meteor]

what i mean is that, luffy suddenly became tankier and faster significantly (not about cocting)

[visual merlin]

Not necessarily, again he's yet to do anything to a thunder bagua, and he's even being stopped by normal swings. But lets say he got tankier and faster, then it's just a weird one piece thing, because cocting can't explain that

[zinc meteor]

kk u got a point

[wary fossil]

Rayleigh mentions that haki can increase when the user pushes themselves past their limit

[visual merlin]

what is that telling me?

[wary fossil]

that it's possible for OP characters to get tankier just from fighting

[sand sail]

It's not pushing past their limit, it's training from the fight

Basically stress testing themselves until they get stronger, but it's not an automatic thing so far

[upbeat pecan]

Yo guys how high do you think luffys bounty will be if he defeats kaido

[wary fossil]

can =/= does. And everybody that has had haki increase has been pushed past their previous haki limit. Luffy doesn't get stronger from just using hardening

[upbeat pecan]

Ill be shocked if luffy gets 5 billion

Thats whitebeard and roger level bounty

[sand sail]

So far, only Zoro has. Luffy grew in observation just by focusing on using it in his fight with Katakuri, not by surpassing any previously held limits that were impeding him. Zoro grew from deciding to not fight Enma's pull on his haki and releasing it all at once

Luffy grew stronger against Kaido by just realizing the technique, not by breaking any wall that was keeping him down. And in Udon, he just trains normally for it all after unlocking it during a panic situation, not because he was pushed to the ends of his life

[wary fossil]

haki limit is not their physical limit

[upbeat pecan]

Guys you think nico robin is about to be captured. We all know whats gonna happen if she does get captured again but i just hope thay doesnt become the case you know

[sand sail]

Haki limit has never been used besides Zoro to get stronger in that way, though

[upbeat pecan]

Luffy was always fast learner. He just didnt understand what hyogoro was talking about when he mentions bloom

[sand sail]

Luffy knew, it's the same lesson Rayleigh taught him, it was nothing new or unknown to him at the time

[upbeat pecan]

Yeah but at the same time i dont think anyone ever mentioned that it was in fact conquerers haki coating

[wary fossil]

Being at your haki limit doesn't necessarily mean you're about to die. Luffy has had to wait on techniques because his haki was fully depleted

[upbeat pecan]

He just assumed it was the advanced arnament haki but didnt realize that conquerers haki could be utilized for coating

[sand sail]

He hasn't though, he can't do that with depleted haki. Once his haki is down, it can't actually be trained any more, it's just gone till it recharges

No one's ever gotten this kind of a "bloom" while having no haki available

[upbeat pecan]

People were saying before that luffy couldnt combine conquerers with arnament but after seeing the latest chapter i highly suspect its possible

[sand sail]

Oh yeah, that definitely seems to be what he's been doing

[grizzled fog]

He’s been doing that for a while

[upbeat pecan]

Yeah but there were people saying thats the way the manga was drawn. Like the effects of punching in manga pannel you know

But when i saw luffy use roc gun again with conquerers haki and arnament haki i was like “its definitely not a manga drawing effect” his arm is definitely armed with arnament and conquerers

Also luffy is mvp. Hes actually done more damage on kaido that oden or big mom could

[unborn onyx]

Are you trying to insinuate that luffy is stronger than Linlin eren Yeager

[fresh pecan]

Oden was about to kill Kaido what you talking about?

[unborn onyx]

2billion tops

[visual merlin]

?

so he gets at best a 500 mil increase lol?

[fathom matrix]

What if Black Beard gets the One Piece first and he challenges Luffy to a fight

Like he says "if you want to take this crown, come at me Straw Hat"

BUT it's a count down. Remember, they needed to be at that spot at exactly 20 years, but maybe it's a little more time over.

So for that final battle, it's Luffy vs Black Beard, and whoever wins, gets to see why Roger needed to be there at a specific date

[opaque jackal]

Im quite sure that Blackbeard will get the Pirate King before luffy

[mint kelp]

I think oda will make somebody become the pirate king before luffy and he will have to fight him

[mint kelp]

Dont think its titch because he's not interested in the poneglyphes

[fathom matrix]

well, you do need them to become find the one piece. And we can't say he doesn't care

He may just have everyone else do all the work and he swipes them for himself

how do we know he hasn't had someone like lefette make rubbings of the ponoglyphs

Plus, Luffy himself doesn't really care about the Ponoglyth's specifically, cause he's just wondering more where the one piece is to be the pirate king, but his navigator and archeologist are handling them

[mint kelp]

Even if he's interested i don't think he has reached the straw hats pirates point yet, because firstly, its VERY hard to find someone who's able to read whats written on the poneglyphes. Secondly, the red poneglyphes are secured very hardly on each island as there's people that guard them so if Titch have got any copy of whats written it oda will deliver the message, par example if he have found the one in Zoo island (which i dont think he ever could find that because nobody knows its place except for the leaders of Minks and their loyal guards) the leaders would let them know that they believe someone sneak into the poneglyphes place

[mint kelp]

And no Luffy do care about the Poneglyphes because he knows well that they're the goal for the pirate king title, its just there's someone that could help him reach it by translating the words for him

[proud tree]

akainu is 55 years old ... meaning he was 15 years old when Rox was defeated at god Valley ... so how does he know about Rox?

[unborn onyx]

He is an admiral

He is fleet admiral, so it's natural for him to have that information

[muted ember]

There's ppl who weren't born then who know about it like Hina. My guess it's mostly been erased but certain ppl have heard about it one way or another

[vestal orbit]

the only plausible explanation is that he is rox, just deaged by the previous user of bonney's fruit and his heart literally cleansed by tsuru's fruit

[muted ember]

There's a lot of ppl in the world who were alive during that time who might talk about it even tho it's taboo

[agile tangle]

So he's using conquerors with armament?

Is he using the destroying from the inside out armament?

[upbeat pecan]

I think its that and a combination of conquerers

[agile tangle]

Wow

[agile tangle]

Is this conquerors or armament?

Or both?

[agile tangle]

Basically this

[grizzled fog]

It is both presumably

[agile tangle]

Ah okay

[mellow basalt]

Theres 100% conquerors, but it might sound stupid by just saying if you look at the colored section of the manga thing it def shows conquerors

[idle salmon]

Where do you find that it has to be 20 years?

[agile tangle]

Ah okay

[pure raven]

I don't think that Oda will rob the Straw Hats of finding One Piece themselves. They will be the ones to find the treasure.

[pure raven]

Does anyone know what chapter does Law switch Strawhat's hearts or takes out Cesars heart?

[gray creek]

Blackbeard getting their first would be such a powerful trope that it almost has to happen

[half badger]

One scene to sanij Haki/Kenbunshoku Haki, I miss this scenes like this.... (my favourite scene) by sanjii strengh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU6G8IXg9xo

[somber sphinx]

they say that eatting two DF kills you. but what if someone eats brook's DF and eat another... does he come back with both?

[dreamy beacon]

Dont think so both will cancel out each other mayb,jabra said it lik two devils fighting in ur body

[abstract pond]

best part is a woman having nosebleed for Sanji

[supple coyote]

[fathom matrix]

Cause Roger was 20 years too early when he found the one piece

[pure raven]

3 billion at least

And it could also go above kaidos if oda did it like always i.e his bounty increased to a higher number thrn his enemys

[pure raven]

Personay i Wouldnt want to see that
Oda. Will surely give us something big as he said in one of his interviews that after wano big events will haopen

[fathom matrix]

I watched a Tekking Video the other day and he suggested the possibility that if Luffy found out what happened with Sabo, he wouldn't want to take that risk

[pure raven]

Take what risk?

[fathom matrix]

Cause he pointed out that Luffy must have regretted that decision not to check up on Ace, or go after him when his vivre card was burning up, probably thinking about it every day.

[fathom matrix]

The risk of losing another brother, especially one that he thought was dead, who just came back

[pure raven]

Sorry man
I m still not gettin it

Like he wouldnt want to go after saving sabo ?
Or
Wouldnt want to go after one piece in order to save sabo?
Or what?