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oh come onn dont be that waayyy
woo
who the fuck
I'm sorry person
LUUL
drap should get something special like
god
ded
And its not even a coloured role smfh
You keep whining I'm gonna delete the editor role
Guys, new sonic game reveal trailers in an hour
for switch?
Im meme'ing Saka dont be that way ๐
If my editor role gets removed for good i'll quit this server
instantly
lol
no point in life
What're you even editing anyway
That's bs
Saka its my pride and joy.
giggles
What are you even editing, I second Sakatas question
I could do it without telling you and you wouldn't even notice
teehee
Doesnt it hold any sentimental value?
Unless you're literally checking your roles every two seconds for some God forsaken reason
I would notice it believe me lol
what are you even editing?
I was editing the Podcast
LUUL
Well I was mad it wasnt happening when I still had my pc. Now I wouldnt be mad if they stay on hiatus for a bit untill I get a new one
Yours broke too?
I mean I cant really have a job right now
so my best bet is to get money from relatives, birthday is coming up soon
RIIIIIIIIIIIIIP
Drawing Zeus from one piece would b cool
so am i an artist now
Since he's lightning
i mean in the discord
AWWW why didnt you say it earlyer
man i feel bad for not going with zeus now
Lol
@radiant spruce my TV isnt a flat screen
That's the first thing I thought about
Lol
and i didnt remember zeus
Lol
like a flying slug
xD
hey guys drap motivated me to make a short story
gime a theme
hentai
Yes
Btw. If naruto failed to become a ninja so many times, why is he the same age as the other graduates ๐ค
what are you talking about red
That ain't the point
he didnt actually fail
I thought every year he would sit on the swing pouting and all the kids were like "hey i heard he failed again" and then talked shit about him having the fox
I thought so too
i mean he failed to do the clone jutsu but he wasnt left to repeat the year. He didnt graduate at first though but when Naruto saved Iruka he got graduated
That isnt it?
I'm talking about prior to that
Years prior
That was like the whole thing wasn't it
He kept failin like a feg
Does that indicate graduation though?
Idk?
maybe they just meant like a test or smth
So he fails every test and only had to pass one? Eh
Oi
or maybe
he tried to graduate a lot during the year
like
earlier than others or smth
he prob made lots of attempts
and you prob can graduate at any time untill you are 12
since ppl like kakashi-itachi graduated at 5-7
took like an extra
30-40 minutes to finish it up
but yeah
i kinda like this character
maybe i should give her a name and a backstory
and a proper outfit
Devil why'd you draw kennen
man it used to be fun to submit stuff to deviantart, usually there would be a few people watching the newest deviations when you submitted and you'd get a few views and a comment
but now it's like
nooooope
i guees people move to other places
like patreon, artstation etc
oh
that is interesting
teach us master
why is deviant art so different
it used to show a ton lot of pics, now it shows 1
on browse screen
oh there is a setting
drap, whats your deviant art
its much better than most
and everyone has started from somewhere
quantity comes into quality
in most of lifes spheres
oh i mean im not saying i suck in general
but most of the stuff i hvae on there isnt htat good
i mean, i'm decent within my niche of drawing manga art with nibs and ink i suppose
i think your level is good enough to start
and you probably wont get worse
xD
so its fine
as long as you think on what you want to improve
yeah man im not htat self deprecating, i mean a lot of stuff i draw is fine, like if i could draw a whole manga where the quality was as good as the lightning girl thing i just drew
i'd be totally satisfied and proud of that
the only problem is that my quality varies with laziness and things i'm inexperienced with
so i need to get brushed around the edges by drawing a lot of actual manga
hence hwy im doing things like the one shot project here
and with these drawings lately focusing on hands and feet
for practice
and more dynamic poses
overall though im totally fine, i don't think im that bad or anything
this idea of challange is btw a really good thing
i have been searching for someonething like this
getting the first step to start drawing is the hardest thing
for me at least
im spent for today
tomorrow i will incorporate one in the theme ๐
or after i wake up
well that's fine, do it for tomorrow's challenge. uhh, tomorrow's jojo as i promised @carmine axle, but you can try to draw a jojo character in your own style, or in a manga style you like, if you don't like the jojo style
though again guys i really recommend everyone to learn as much as you can from araki
especially people who dont like jojo and don't look at araki's art style often
its not like i dont like it
so focusing on his style for the challenge will be good
im hard at nothing things down
which is bad for an artist
i think in abstract
so you could say in my train of thought everything is detailless
and when i draw i mostly do by instinct
i dont even know what i try to do ๐
i only know some of the rules i have striven to learn
like perspective
lightning
and boxes
but i allready made a story
one shot story
about the hentai ramen god with cocks
:d
ofc hentai means transformation
and cocks are delicious when cooked
๐
fuck it i will try
to make a charracter
@hard raft
i need to work on proportions and a lot of the fundamentals, but i dont know what to search
for example i dont know what to search for clothes
hmm
Is that a joke or no.....
@hard raft And tomorrow I ca actually do it.
well...
i can see so many things to fix
but the biggest one is that his hands are backwards...
...
but i just realized
i can cosplay
as a charracter from tenkuu shinpan
just look at it
even the mood is the same ๐
i mean my posture in this particular pic
No comment
Zaaa day I find my art style I'll b the the happiest person alive
Odas homies on a human face
And don't be nice to me critic my Shit nigga
Wut should I draw?
Draw any one of the supernovas
Got it
๐
@rain elm bruh I don't think it turned out good... maybe if I tried a little harder but it's 1:47 am and I got school, Plus my Niggas holding a Blunt! ๐
Goodnight
Its fuckin impressive you did it this fast
Well I was going to draw drake then law then Bonney and then this lol
Why didnt u consider kidd
Idk lol
His ass got wiped by Kaido lol
I might draw him in his cage tommorw
Well Goodnight
ah, kabu, you're bulgarian? i am bulgarian by ethnicity, my dad's side of the family is from bulgaria. i live in israel though. i dont know anything about bulgaria though haha
anyway before we get you in any further place, you ought to understand proportions
its basic and extremely important
let me help you
alright so in manga art we're gonna be measuring shit with heads
now later on you're gonna have to understand things like how long the arms and legs are relative to the body, how long the torso should be, etc, how wide the body should be. but before we learn all of that, just the body's size itself is a good important starting point, and then you can start adjusting things from there
so usually what you're going to want to do, for an adult male character, is have a body that is seven heads long
this isnt a precise rule, someone like aokiji is gonna have like a billion heads for his body, and luffy has less than 7, probably 6
that's our homeboy luffy, 6 maybe 6.5 heads
you draw a character like kid goku, he's gonna have a head to body ratio of about 3 i believe
maybe 2.5?
but the point here is that
it's not just about drawing the character bigger or smaller
there are internal proportions to hte body
unless you get into really distorted characters like raizo, most human-looking characters are going to have very similar sized heads
and the shape/size of the body relative to the head is what makes them look chibi or adult or teenagerish
same size head, different bodies, get it?
so the first thing you need to do is understand what kind of proportions you're going for
look at the kind of art style you're going for, look at the kind of head:body ratio it involves
you can have legitimate characters that are 1:4 or 1:6 or 1:8 or whatever, it doesnt matter, it just makes them more childish looking or more adult looking, but most normal manga characters are gonne be in the 6-8 range
it just depends on the kind of feeling you're going for
a 1:8 ratio gets you realistic tall adult characters, it's the kind of stuff you would see often in western comics or stuff like ghost in the hsell, cowboy bebop etc
for the style you're going for, you might be better off with 1:7 adult males and 1:6 adult females, i'm not sure
i myself draw iwthin the 6-7 range, I think
@jovial tide read everything i just wrote, and draw the character you drew again, this time with a reasonable head:body ratio that fits the style you want
ok
i will try now
this charracter was 5 heads long
acttually 5 isnt so bad
since its supposed to be a gag character
but i will draw it this time 6 heads long
its betterin some ways i think
what i see is, that i will need to learn to make better boots and legs
as to not look as if the man is a centaur
his hands are better, still could be better...
tried to proportion them as the girl from your drawing, basing head meassures
i really wanted to make a fold in the middle of the apron
but i have no idea how...
i spent 40 mins on this!!! drap you will tire me xD
mage, start your character like a person
alright kabu this is a good start
with a skeleton
listen to tj's advice, uncle tj knows
they have ?
you should first draw the skeleton of human shape and then erase the overlapping parts
Idk where I saw it
on youtube somewher
i saw a lot of skeletons in the references for this guy
the biggest problems right now are the body is too wide, the arms are too short. the body can be this wide if it's like a fat guy or something, but it's not typical
you can't just see a skeleton
but i hardly stick to something
arms need to reach further than just the point where the stomach ends
but with his arms like that
how can he masturbate
he cant reach his dick
you see, his body is unreasonable
so make hte arms longer
something like this, so his arms and legs will be a length that matches
manga characters especially usually have very long legs
so
im not sure it's a good idea for the arm/leg length to match
even in humans arms are a bit shorter than legs
well
what kind of character design are you going for
a muscular old man
who is also little fat
but has abs
totaly
even if they are not so well visible
okay, then the legs dont have to be much longer than the arms
but still a bit longer
however the arms are way way too short here
now for drawing folds in fabric
it's difficult
for now, try to make the line flow more
uhh
hold on
this is hard advanced stuff
i know
i was trying to learn to draw by this guide
sec to find
i made the first one
anyway let me try to find a simple way to improve this fabric
alright wehn you make the fabric flow more
less straight
it'll be easier
to add folds
also his legs are too short
well, his legs are too short for the torso, you can make the torso/arms smaller and it fits
now man if you want to draw expressive manga characters
you have to start learning how to draw faces and hair
they are the most important
i mean, you have ot learn how to draw everything, but faces and hair are going to be your bread and butter, so you have to learn
and practice those
as soon as possible
i didnt even think about the torso
i was concentrating on the proportions and i ran out of will power to continue
40 mins is my limit
i wanted for the apron to have a dent in the middle
you know like girls skirts when they are sitting
drap can u go over my drawings sometime like you do here? It's really informative
when I draw something
not now
yeah tj
i was gonna go over your demon/angel dude
but if you want to draw somethign else i will go over it
thanks! next competition :d
idk when I can join next, tonight im gonna drink with friends and I might have to work saturday
and if I dont work I 'll probably see my girlfriend
alright
well next time you compete try to draw a serious character and ill see what i can help you with
try to draw a serious character 
lol
what did i get my self into... i hate recipes such as this
that make you do 5 things at 5 diferent places in 5 mins
STRAY START READING HERE
anyway stray I think the pencils arent doing you any favors, some things like his left eye (his left, not our left) dont flow right because the line is hard to see
i think you need to either draw digitally, or ink your drawings, or just pay more careful attention to how the lines are coming out because i think it's messy right now. because pencilwork can involve a lot of erasing and redrawing, it's hard to get it to be clean, i dont know how to help with that since my pencil drawings are always messy... but try to find a way to get it to look right, cause right now it's hurting the final product imo
but
having more dark area in the eye and thicker eyelashes definitely worked for you, it looks much better this way
about the folds, i think theyd look better if they started at the lightning bolt, like this
tahts not the best picture but i hope you get the idea
have the lines coming right from the thing that holds it together at the center, they can be simple, no need to go crazy with it
the eyes are sharp and emotive, they're simple but you can clearly see the kind of person he is, I don't have a problem with it. if you want a more detailed or varied style, you should probably avoid having really straight and sharp lines for the eyes
the eyelashes i mean, the general eye shape
drap ping me after you finish
or after i finish cooking
write me ioi
i will remember
what i wanted to say
even a serious angry manly character drawn in a simple style doesnt have to have a STRAIGHT line, it bends and curves a bit
basically i dont think it's super necessary to have it as straight as you had it there
but hey if it's your style is your style, nothing wrong with it
i think you did the hair very very well
feels totally natural, i have no qualms with it at all
mouths are hard but you could stand to learn more about how these kinds of mouths are usually drawn by manga artists
in bleach these things are drawn minimalistically, with pretty much nothing
just white and very little guidelines for where the teeth would be, with some blacked out at the edges
this fairy tail picture is an example of how in a simplistic art-style the inside of an annoyed/angry mouth can look, it depends though
there are a lot of variations on how annoyed or actually flat out angry the character is
so you need to look at artists you like and see how they do it
but the good thing about mouths in manga style is that you can get away with drawing them very simplistically, without adding much detail
@jovial tide scroll up and read everything I just wrote
anyway @jovial tide now im with you, what were you saying
yeah i'm not a fan but i am looking for an art style that is similar to how she draws in simplicity
i mean she cant just draw a photorealistic mouth on her character, it needs to fit how the rest of it looks
so i think the ichigo mouth and that natsu mouth
would both go well with your character
you just have to decide if you're the kinda person that likes drawing teeth
personally i think teeth are kinda ugly and don't belong on pretty boy characters, so i like drawing mouths like how that ichigo mouth looks
but thast just me
i draw them for ugly characters though
you have to go all out on the teeth for ugly characters. i'm not that good at it, but some artists man theyre so good at making ugly characters with ugly teeth
@hard raft
you here
i was going to tell you to read the manhwa "Skill of Lure"
it is a korean manga about pick up artists
its lightweight, fun and really educational
about the interactions between humans
its centered between man and girl but is aplicable in any other combination
and in groups
after reading it i found that a lot of mangas actually follow the stuff
grimstark im the 3rd one
the rightest one of your pick right now
waiting for my meal to cook
it can help you a lot to read it for charracter relationships
and is applicable in real life
i have a friend that is really into pick up artists stuff
and he confirmed that everything in this manhwa is real
@hard raft the daily challenges start when I'm at school
you can do it in your own time man
lots of poeple do them late
the point is to get you to draw something every day yknow
Oh
now that you said that to grim
i remembered i wanted to make the previous challanges
so i shall do that i guess for today
here is an attempt to make sanji
Tf
@hard raft
?
can you do the same with my drawings like you did with Jess'?
the video?
yeah
if you dont wanna do my old drawings since im prob better rn than I was before then you can do it with my female girl drawing or Devos
i mean you dont often seem to just draw anime-looking characters so im not sure that i have as much advice to give
but ill try
I dislike the overly animu-weebish style tbh
thats why I like OP, because the eyes arent as huge as their tits
yo drap
do it with the female drawing, adjust what you think the body should look like and draw her a face you'd think would fit.
which one? didnt you do more htan one?
i recall you doing another one
with a prominent ass
but okay
send me the pic again
I dont have it on this pc lul. Its on nsfw somewhere imma find it once the house is empty
dont wanna go through bunch of porn with ppl in the house
I will send it to you in 15 minutes-ish
yes
i think we can post it here its not like nsfw its like art
yeah i know
Ye its cool
so were making jojo today
@carmine axle yes
@radiant spruce do oyu have the superpowers to put people in the "artist" role?
and if so can you give the artist role to perplexedcam, rad, and tjieco
I wnat to be able to go @ Artists for the daiyl challenge
Yes
you should participate in the daily challenges with us
definitely
No man i cant do it daily fucking exams
alright
I wanted to color it but i CBA
you should probably at least color in the black parts
since they're empty space right now
Yes i have to darken the tats too
what is CBA
cant be assed
Cant be bothered to do somethin
how does the music room work here

This afternoon seems fine.
i dont
live in your time zone
i need things to be explained to me in the terms of like
"three hours from now"
or whatever
the time we usually do it is about two or three hours from now
I guess 2 hours from now?
alright thats perfect
thats when we usually do it
ill ping you then and we'll see if it's ag ood time
Nice.
Yeet
I'm at school...
oh yeah huh i forgot
alright
lit
youre gonna participate when ou get home
and have time off to do it
you know it devil
Jojo
What do u mean Jojo
anything related to jojo you want
for instnace
im gonna be drawing one of my original characters
in jojo art style
I'm only on part 2 lol
thats fine man
From a character from Jojo in your style to an OC in Jojos style
or anything in between
any jojo picture
is fine
i dont care
honestly as long as you draw i dont care
you can even submit something
that has nothing to do wtih jojo
and illb eh appy
lol
Ayyy
the theme is just to get us creative and to have fun
like
i wouldnt have drawn this lightning girl character
if tj didnt tell us to draw something with electricity yknow
she just popped in my head
as soon as i heard the theme
!theories
you know i dont agree with that
because everyone has one butt
but most people have several different theories
no i mean
i have one butt
but i have like
several different theories
so i disagree with the premise of
a theory being like a butt in that everyone has "one"
Some look like female butts and some look like ugly male butts
that corelates to the quality of the theory
All the theories u have equals one butt
And theres a big hole in the middle
stray
we're drawing jojo theme stuff
in two hours
so you have two hours
to finish the one hour
toy theme
devil
you're a bad influence on her
she has such strong discipline
exercising and drawing every day
Shut the fuck up "bad influence" you the one watching PG18 movies with her
If shes an adult then she will tell apart "influence" and "bad influence"
LUL
yeah i remember
see
strays older than me even
it's fine
she can watch whatever movies she want
tomorrow we're gonna watch My Girlfriend's Busty Friend 7 together
i heard it's got great cinematography
Lol
keep working at it
I recommend looking for it at "www.brazzers.tv"
trying to simulate the past successes of My Friend's Hot Girl 3 and 4
but they just can't recapture the magic
guys why dont you go watch "Friends with benefits" drap could learn a thing or two
no but for real like i just wanted to watch a movie my friend recommended to me and she started watching it with me it wasnt like a thing where we watch movies together lol
I know what happened you dont have to explain yourself to me like im her dad or smth
you're not her dad but i dont want to get in between you two's thing yknow
i am sure she could
but stray is not drawing dogs anymore
saka has ordered against it
but it could be so good
Draw a dog doing the rero rero thing
with Jojo style face
human eyes
kinda like what Black Sperm has from One Punch Man
lol
Gimme dat art role
Arigato
2nd and still thinking
Fucked up on one eye
Wtf
Oops
Deleted them
Grimm its funny but I shouldnt laugh because I probably wouldnt be able to draw it any better
im pretty comfortable with eyes
good mouths are pretty hard
so i just settle for mediocre mouths yknow
I can do good eyes
But holy shit I have a classmate, she draws the most realistic, fucking eyes I've ever seen
I think when she was at my place she drew a woman's face lemme see if I can find it somewhere
Drap you would love her
if i find it
cant find it right now
TJ there were like 4 other girls besides her that were at my place that time lol
so that's like
a lot of sex
i mean everyone knows
that two people of the opposite gender can't be in a room together without inserting their genitals into one another's
sheesh
I watched porn too
2 of them did sleep at my place so if that counts then yeah
its not a harem lol
we're all playing checkers man but devil is playing chess
his life is like fucking
to love ru
the girls werent the only ppl there
got all these bitches up in his place
when is the challenge lmao
you wanna draw jojo jay?
im tryna draw yukako
is that a jojo ccharacter
yes
jay
the challenge will start in the next 30 minutes or so
and itll last one hour
Stray wont be here though
she got leashed by her parents
like a dog
st patric, aint that a drinking celebration
LEt's do it.
We have an hour.
We can draw anything related to jojo.
We can draw any character or even draw anything we it comes to our mind.
<@&292044333660766208>
If you want to draw a "standsona" yourself with your own unique stand, that is allowed too.
what i am doing myself is drawing one of my OCs in jojo style
That is acceptable too.
we starting?
in about four minutes or so
im getting a few things sorted out and i want to wait to see if theres anyone else whos gonna respond to the ping
<@&292044333660766208> WE ARE ABOUT TO START
how many ppl we got
you me cam
i think kabus also participating
and stray
but strays not participating right now, shes gonna do it later in her own time
alright devil
you starting
jay
im trusting you to
watch the timer
tell us when it's over
STARTING NOW
bet
I'll b home 2 hours tops
same
Why does Jim Gay have racing stripes on his eyelids
what aer you doing
?
nvm
man this is not coming out like i wanted it to
also tashi
i saw that picture and i instantly knew you drew it
before scrolling up to see

25 minutes left boyos
Lit I'm still in school
grim, we are the second wave today
this looks
๐
nothing like what iw anted it to look like
but it's fine
haha
this came out really strange but
its fine i suppose
and i finished it early
ohhh
5 minuts left <@&292044333660766208>
i dont think youve done
im gonna cheat the fuck out of this one
i mean the proportions and anatomy in general and stuff came out unideal
since i was working within constraints that i wasnt familiar with
buuut yeah
ayyyy
i love the flow
who we waiting onn
oh bet
To be honest. Araki does a lot of Stylized poses.
So they are not 100% anatomically correct.
all jojo characters have no spinal structure lmao
THIS IS MY STAND [A CLOCWORK ORANGE]
well of course, what other stand for a film student
Of course
I wanna name a stand after a kanye song
time is over?
i shouldve drawn this
drap dont get excited I didnt draw anything new
I just adjusted the old drawing and removed the tears lul
post it
removed the tears
seriously?
yes
what a beautiful man
no kakyoin no cry
thank you
why did you want me to post it though
yeah ill do it when i can, but this one's a bit harder for me so i want to do some research first
to understand
what i dont like about your picture
and whether it's like
something i can solve
because you know it's not like i draw perfect figures either
yeah you do
anyway we've had ten days of this art challenge now
i missed one day in the beginnig
but aside from that
ive been drawing every day
so it's good
only 355 more
drap you will see a massive increase in my art quality once I get my monitor
and I wish I had a more reliable way to take a picture
there are a lot of resources to learn online about doing proper
digital art
you should look into it
i think you would enjoy it a lot
Dude I was "Going to look into it" for the past
2 years?
lol
Never had you to motivate me though
or Jess
well i think you ought to do that
asap
ykonw
actually
if i were you what i would do
is speed draw figures
i mean, if i were me i would also speed draw figures, but i am lazy
do a few
2 minute or 5 minute or something
drawings
there
and you'll see it's really fast and easy
and then you'll be motivated to do a lot
hopefully
sec
note taken
kabu
if you can do that
that would be great
if you do them at something like 2 minutes
you can go through 10 models in 20 minutes
you learn a lot
hey drap is there a quick way to learn how to draw elipses and such
No I mean without a ruler
oh like
controlling your hand well?
yeah im no good at stuff like that, i dont really know
Me neither, my mom used to insist on teaching me how to do that
I always hated drawing those figures
you can do a shadow motion
like do it several times above without drawing
so you are good with the motion
and then the line is straight
you have to do it fast
yeah
working with a g-pen is very hard since theres no room for errors
and you have to be able to control your hand really well
so ive been getting a lot of practice with that over the last few, uhh, i dont know, lots of years
but when i draw
with a pencil
i go over the line a million times
like it's nobody's business
perfect lines are for women and the gays
yknow
especially with digital art being so commonplace these days and it being so easy to ctrl+z any mistake
drawing perfect lines on the first try is not something i see as valuable
drawing is redrawing imo
erasing and redrawing

