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hollow walrus Oct 10, 2021, 7:17 PM

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question

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what are the stages of a dungeon?

static zealot Oct 10, 2021, 7:18 PM

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stage 1, 2, 3 and 4

hollow walrus Oct 10, 2021, 7:18 PM

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no like

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these are the stages that i have right now

obtuse gale Oct 10, 2021, 7:18 PM

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dm me if your a plugin develope

hollow walrus Oct 10, 2021, 7:18 PM

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void startDungeon();
    void endDungeon();
    void spawnMobs();
    void spawnBoss();
    void joinDungeon();```

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im gunna have list of the mobs and bosses if the dungeon is full

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all of that

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i just wanna see what i could be missing

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 7:19 PM

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obtuse gale dm me if your a plugin develope

Why?

hollow walrus Oct 10, 2021, 7:20 PM

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i dmed him

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he needs help

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with a faction server

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List<MasterMob> dungeonMobs = new ArrayList<>();
    List<MasterBoss> dungeonBoss = new ArrayList<>();
    List<Player> players = new ArrayList<>();
    
    void joinDungeon();
    void startDungeon();
    void endDungeon();
    void spawnMobs();
    void spawnBoss();
    void deSpawnMobs();
    void deSpawnBoss();
    int maxDungeonMobs();
    int maxPlayersPerDungeon();```

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public String name;
    public ItemStack icon;
    public int maxPlayers;
    public List<MasterMob> mobs = new ArrayList<>();
    public List<MasterBoss> bosses = new ArrayList<>();

    public DungeonManager(String name, ItemStack icon, int maxPlayers, List<MasterMob> mobs, List<MasterBoss> bosses) {
        this.name = name;
        this.icon = icon;
        this.maxPlayers = maxPlayers;
        this.mobs = mobs;
        this.bosses = bosses;
    }```

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or something like this?

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 7:28 PM

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I'm just looking at Dkim's projects now to see how he did it lol

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 7:44 PM

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ooh is someone learning how to use maven central or smth? 👀

sly sonnet Oct 10, 2021, 7:44 PM

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hollow walrus ```java List<MasterMob> dungeonMobs = new ArrayList<>(); List<MasterBoss> du...

what the fuck

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 7:45 PM

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ah

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ty

obtuse gale Oct 10, 2021, 7:47 PM

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half harness ooh is someone learning how to use maven central or smth? 👀

Yeah, fish

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 7:47 PM

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half harness ooh is someone learning how to use maven central or smth? 👀

I copied some of your build.gradle and it seems to be working

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 7:47 PM

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obtuse gale Yeah, fish

😮

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 7:47 PM

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sweet cipher I copied some of your build.gradle and it seems to be working

nicee

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which project?

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also do u know what task to run

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 7:48 PM

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Your build.gradle doesn't send the jar or javadocs though it seems like

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 7:48 PM

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thonking

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show me what ur doing

obtuse gale Oct 10, 2021, 7:48 PM

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I think I lost my central pgp key

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 7:48 PM

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and what project r u getting this from

obtuse gale Oct 10, 2021, 7:48 PM

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Ugh

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 7:48 PM

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I got it working though

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 7:48 PM

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the java or kotlin one?

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 7:48 PM

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obtuse gale I think I lost my central pgp key

ooof

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my key isn't on the command line

ocean quartz Oct 10, 2021, 7:48 PM

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half harness ah

You're a very confusing person btw, you were talking about optionals while talking about beans then you go for a normal property 😩
Optional works well on beans but createOptional is needed for property

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 7:48 PM

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but i still have the file

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:p

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 7:48 PM

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ocean quartz You're a very confusing person btw, you were talking about optionals while talki...

ohhh

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 7:49 PM

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half harness which project?

https://github.com/Fisher2911/FishCore/blob/master/build.gradle

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 7:49 PM

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no i mean which project r u taking it from

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 7:49 PM

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Oh

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Both your core and JDAUtils

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 7:49 PM

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those are both kotlin ;-;

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wait im pretty sure i have a java one

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 7:50 PM

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Well I got it to work lol

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 7:50 PM

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https://github.com/dkim19375/ItemMoveDetectionLib

GitHub

GitHub - dkim19375/ItemMoveDetectionLib

Contribute to dkim19375/ItemMoveDetectionLib development by creating an account on GitHub.

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although that ones kts

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https://github.com/dkim19375/Bedwars/blob/master/build.gradle

dense dew Oct 10, 2021, 7:50 PM

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mr mitten what do you think about rust 🤔

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 7:50 PM

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that ones groovy and java (java api)

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https://github.com/dkim19375/Bedwars/blob/master/api/build.gradle

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 7:51 PM

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sweet cipher Well I got it to work lol

nice 👍

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btw

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run gradle clean publishToSonatype closeAndReleaseSonatypeStagingRepository

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to publish to sonatype

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 7:51 PM

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Oh I didn't use clean before it

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 7:51 PM

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well

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i dont think its needed

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but i do it in case

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 7:52 PM

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After it's published, do I continue to run that command to update it?

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 7:52 PM

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yes

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 7:52 PM

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Okay cool thank you

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 7:52 PM

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also make sure u let the people on the ticket know when u published

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so that they can enable sync to central

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 7:52 PM

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Oh okay

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It already says Central sync is activated for io.github.fisher2911.

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 7:58 PM

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on the ticket?

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 7:59 PM

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Yeah

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Is there a way to use shadowJar and publish it?

obtuse gale Oct 10, 2021, 8:08 PM

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yes

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https://imperceptiblethoughts.com/shadow/publishing/

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actually I wonder if it's possible...

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I don't think you can generate sources and javadoc jars with it

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 8:09 PM

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I tried that and the jar was renamed to -.all, and it did not like that

obtuse gale Oct 10, 2021, 8:09 PM

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sweet cipher I tried that and the jar was renamed to -.all, and it did not like that

You can circumvent that by setting archiveClassifier.set(null as String) in the shadowJar configuration

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 8:10 PM

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Oh thanks

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 8:26 PM

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sweet cipher Is there a way to use shadowJar and publish it?

why?

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you should use api

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 8:27 PM

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What does that do?

ocean quartz Oct 10, 2021, 8:27 PM

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Transitive dependencies

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 8:27 PM

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and automatically acts as if the project that added your library did implementation

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idk if implementation does the same without transitive

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 8:27 PM

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Oh okay

obtuse gale Oct 10, 2021, 8:27 PM

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shading is one of the worse if not the worst option when it comes to bundling multiple jar files

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 8:28 PM

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half harness idk if `implementation` does the same without transitive

i'd assume it does tho

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 8:28 PM

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What is a transitive dependency?

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 8:28 PM

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half harness and automatically acts as if the project that added your library did `implementa...

this

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 8:28 PM

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Oh

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 8:28 PM

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well theres also compileOnlyApi

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which i hope u can guess what it does

steel heart Oct 10, 2021, 8:32 PM

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sweet cipher What is a transitive dependency?

For instance guava is a transitive dependency of spigot-api

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When you add spigot-api guava gets automatically added

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 8:34 PM

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Oh okay

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 8:45 PM

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half harness run `gradle clean publishToSonatype closeAndReleaseSonatypeStagingRepository`

How long after I run this does it take for me to be able to use it as a dependency?

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 8:45 PM

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if you add the sonatype repository then instantly

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if u just add maven central then i think a couple minutes

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 8:46 PM

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https://s01.oss.sonatype.org/service/local/ This?

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 8:47 PM

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no

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maven { url = 'https://s01.oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/releases/' }
maven { url = 'https://s01.oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/snapshots/' }

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 8:50 PM

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It's not appearing

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Oh wait

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 8:51 PM

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is it actually on there?

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 8:51 PM

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It's because I changed some of the dependencies to api

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Now I have to add the dependencies myself to the project that depends on the repository

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 8:52 PM

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wat

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 8:52 PM

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It says could not resolve...

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Then the dependencies

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I put this in the repository build.gradle api 'net.kyori:adventure-api:4.9.2'

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Is that right?

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 8:57 PM

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um

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oh u probably need to add the repo on the project that depends on the library

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 8:58 PM

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sweet cipher Now I have to add the dependencies myself to the project that depends on the rep...

ya

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 8:59 PM

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Oh

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Yeah that's it

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How would I make IntelliJ auto generate this with getters and setters?

half harness Oct 10, 2021, 9:11 PM

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sweet cipher How would I make IntelliJ auto generate `this` with getters and setters?

getters and setters can be generated by alt + insert but wdym this?

steel heart Oct 10, 2021, 9:12 PM

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thats an inspection

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believe it's called this before instance fields or smtng

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set it to warning level in File -> Settings

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then iirc intellij will autogenerate it also with the setters and getters

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 9:12 PM

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Oh thank you

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It worked

eternal compass Oct 10, 2021, 9:16 PM

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lets gooo

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I finished my DB connection stuff

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when I moved my mouse offscreen I edited the database in DataGrip

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and it updated instantly

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but doesn't query per call obv

dense dew Oct 10, 2021, 9:20 PM

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eternal compass but doesn't query per call obv

i do it is jtjat bad 😳

ocean quartz Oct 10, 2021, 9:21 PM

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eternal compass

Where slash commands? 😩

eternal compass Oct 10, 2021, 9:22 PM

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ocean quartz Where slash commands? 😩

man I'm trying...
go is hard

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but I really like it

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I need to rebuild my auto slash command registration again

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then my module system is back to working

ocean quartz Oct 10, 2021, 9:23 PM

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You using discordgo?

eternal compass Oct 10, 2021, 9:24 PM

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ocean quartz You using discordgo?

yes ofc

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but the discord part is the easy part

ocean quartz Oct 10, 2021, 9:24 PM

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Does it not provide anything for slash commands?

eternal compass Oct 10, 2021, 9:24 PM

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its DB thats hard

eternal compass Oct 10, 2021, 9:24 PM

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ocean quartz Does it not provide anything for slash commands?

it does

ocean quartz Oct 10, 2021, 9:24 PM

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Ah okay

dense dew Oct 10, 2021, 9:25 PM

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eternal compass man I'm trying... go is hard

yes sexy but hard sometimes 😔

eternal compass Oct 10, 2021, 9:25 PM

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the way my TS bot worked was it automatically registered commands when a module with them was enabled

eternal compass Oct 10, 2021, 9:25 PM

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dense dew i do it is jtjat bad 😳

yes obv

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a db call per command?

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easy way to crash your DB

dense dew Oct 10, 2021, 9:26 PM

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why lol

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crash db

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(only few people can use the commands)

eternal compass Oct 10, 2021, 9:26 PM

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dense dew crash db

if you spam it

dense dew Oct 10, 2021, 9:27 PM

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freddy do you personally like more java or go error handling

dense dew Oct 10, 2021, 9:27 PM

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eternal compass if you spam it

nah 1 connection/5 mins max

eternal compass Oct 10, 2021, 9:27 PM

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but... you just said you make a call per command

eternal compass Oct 10, 2021, 9:27 PM

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dense dew freddy do you personally like more java or go error handling

they're different

dense dew Oct 10, 2021, 9:28 PM

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eternal compass but... you just said you make a call per command

yes

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the commands arent used often

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its like
!rules etc.

prisma wave Oct 10, 2021, 9:29 PM

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go "error handling"

dense dew Oct 10, 2021, 9:29 PM

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but i dont see problem if it would be 1 command/10 s

prisma wave Oct 10, 2021, 9:29 PM

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if err != nil 500000000 times

dense dew Oct 10, 2021, 9:29 PM

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prisma wave if err != nil 500000000 times

yes

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pain

eternal compass Oct 10, 2021, 9:30 PM

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prisma wave if err != nil 500000000 times

only 500000000? lame

prisma wave Oct 10, 2021, 9:31 PM

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let's not forget the same code 50000000 times except with a slightly different type

eternal compass Oct 10, 2021, 9:31 PM

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oh thats another annoying thing. having to set the type on everything

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theres no inferance

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kinda annoying

prisma wave Oct 10, 2021, 9:31 PM

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eternal compass Oct 10, 2021, 9:31 PM

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genius

prisma wave Oct 10, 2021, 9:31 PM

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eternal compass theres no inferance

yes there is

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for variables at least

dense dew Oct 10, 2021, 9:31 PM

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prisma wave

where to buy it

eternal compass Oct 10, 2021, 9:31 PM

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is it under $100 for the one key?

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if so I'm down

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actually $1000

dense dew Oct 10, 2021, 9:32 PM

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lmao thats actually not bad idea

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key for go error handling

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lemme open razer synaose 😏

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 9:40 PM

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Would there be any reason I can't refactor a package in IntelliJ? It let's me click refactor, then nothing happens

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I accidentally made something uppercase

steel heart Oct 10, 2021, 9:43 PM

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I believe it might not refactor if you use a java keyword also for instance

dense dew Oct 10, 2021, 9:43 PM

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happened to me too (tried to rename file that was using another) but it was bug
restart fixed it and 1 time i needed to delete file

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generally jetbrains ide s

steel heart Oct 10, 2021, 9:44 PM

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s

dense dew Oct 10, 2021, 9:44 PM

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nana

sweet cipher Oct 10, 2021, 9:44 PM

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It's because I'm trying to change the case of one of the letters

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I just created a new package

eternal compass Oct 10, 2021, 9:51 PM

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What's the best way to create a helper function that interacts with my database in GoLang?

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should I try to listen for changes to my database object?

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or what

old wyvern Oct 10, 2021, 9:53 PM

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prisma wave go "error handling"

my lord

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I mean, theres panic and defer I guess

eternal compass Oct 10, 2021, 9:53 PM

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defer isn't error handling?

old wyvern Oct 10, 2021, 9:54 PM

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It can be used for the same

eternal compass Oct 10, 2021, 9:54 PM

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and panic just shuts everything down so you can debug

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it can?

old wyvern Oct 10, 2021, 9:54 PM

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Yup

eternal compass Oct 10, 2021, 9:54 PM

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intresting

old wyvern Oct 10, 2021, 9:54 PM

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We used that in elara's parser to unwind

eternal compass Oct 10, 2021, 9:54 PM

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Elara is written in go?

old wyvern Oct 10, 2021, 9:55 PM

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Yes

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https://github.com/ElaraLang/elara/blob/master/parser/parser.go#L76

GitHub

elara/parser.go at master · ElaraLang/elara

Elara is a multi-paradigm language focusing on developer's freedom in code - elara/parser.go at master · ElaraLang/elara

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You can recover from the panic in a defer

prisma wave Oct 10, 2021, 9:56 PM

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eternal compass Elara is written in go?

for now

eternal compass Oct 10, 2021, 9:57 PM

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written in binary when?

old wyvern Oct 10, 2021, 9:57 PM

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3021

eternal compass Oct 10, 2021, 9:58 PM

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also- any good way to watch an object (an array of structs) for changes?

prisma wave Oct 10, 2021, 10:01 PM

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while true

old wyvern Oct 10, 2021, 10:14 PM

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hide the fields, provide setters than trigger all listerners

steel heart Oct 10, 2021, 10:23 PM

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while not false:

eternal compass Oct 10, 2021, 10:28 PM

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steel heart while not false:

!false - It's funny because its true

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also, whats a good way to prevent race conditions with people editing the same map?

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nevermind, its a WaitGroup

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yoo
in go what does p&.... mean? ik & is a pointer, but theres a variable before it?
this is the code I have that works, but I don't get it

                p, err := s.UserChannelPermissions(m.Member.User.ID, m.ChannelID)
                if err != nil {
                    fmt.Println("Error Checking Permissions: " + err.Error())
                }
                if len(args) != 1 || p&discordgo.PermissionManageServer != discordgo.PermissionManageServer {}

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 12:20 AM

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@obtuse gale The ServiceLoader sucks, i cant get it to work for the life of me.... Im putting all the correct stuff in my module-info's and its just not loading 😩

forest pecan Oct 11, 2021, 12:21 AM

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eww serviceloader

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 12:21 AM

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forest pecan eww serviceloader

ikr, but like, what do i use instead???

forest pecan Oct 11, 2021, 12:22 AM

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is this an api ur making?

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or smthing

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 12:22 AM

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ya, i have a component module, and then a opengl implementation of it. But i want the stuff in the component module to use whatever implementation is currently on the classpath

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yes, an api

forest pecan Oct 11, 2021, 12:24 AM

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theres OSGi but thats overkill

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ig

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 12:24 AM

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osig?

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ah i see, this is gonna be part of a larger system(built into minecraft) so im ok with using slightly larger libraries, but ill check it out

forest pecan Oct 11, 2021, 12:25 AM

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https://www.baeldung.com/osgi

Baeldung

Introduction to OSGi | Baeldung

A quick and practical introduction to OSGi - a Java-based component system.

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 12:26 AM

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does this work well with the jpms?

forest pecan Oct 11, 2021, 12:27 AM

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What is jpms in this context

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 12:28 AM

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the java platform module system

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jigsaw

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Eh, osgi does seem like overkill actually... ill just do this stuff manually ig

forest pecan Oct 11, 2021, 12:33 AM

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yeah lol

obtuse gale Oct 11, 2021, 12:35 AM

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humble silo <@456226577798135808> The ServiceLoader sucks, i cant get it to work for the lif...

I used it in a couple private projects (built on jigsaw) and one internally (without jigsaw) and it works flawlessly, lmao

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 12:36 AM

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I cant get it to to work

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im very sad

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Can i use it to define services?

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i would be willing to just define them by myself

obtuse gale Oct 11, 2021, 12:37 AM

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I'm not sure what the context is here. How are you trying to use it? How did you try?

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 12:38 AM

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oh wait

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uh

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does the service have to be abstract?

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this is my service class

public open class Box : NativeGuiComponent() {
    override fun renderNatively(props: GuiProperties): List<RenderingContext> {
        val loader = ServiceLoader.load(Box::class.java)
        val box = loader.firstOrNull() ?: throw IllegalStateException("No Box component implementations on the classpath!")

        return box.renderNatively(props)
    }
}

forest pecan Oct 11, 2021, 12:40 AM

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Serviceloader has some classloader issues when i last used it

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i was using an api that used it, and im not sure if slimjar or smthing affected it but the api couldnt find implementations

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 12:41 AM

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then my implementations implemenent that class and override the rendernatively

forest pecan Oct 11, 2021, 12:41 AM

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not even the ones provided in its own api

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 12:41 AM

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ya weird

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it feels really breakable(just like all of java jigsaw)

forest pecan Oct 11, 2021, 12:41 AM

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thats the reason why i tend to avoid it

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https://github.com/caprica/vlcj/issues/1066

obtuse gale Oct 11, 2021, 12:42 AM

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humble silo does the service have to be abstract?

Not necessarily, but it's suggested since, y'know, the idea is for it to not have a specific implementation, lmao

forest pecan Oct 11, 2021, 12:43 AM

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Yeah make it an interface and and make implementations implement it and use serviceloader on interface

obtuse gale Oct 11, 2021, 12:43 AM

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That's kind of the whole point

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 12:43 AM

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obtuse gale Not necessarily, but it's suggested since, y'know, the idea is for it to not hav...

well if its not required then it shouldnt affect anything should it?

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this is just kinda how i would like to do it

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but idk

obtuse gale Oct 11, 2021, 12:44 AM

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humble silo this is my service class ```kotlin public open class Box : NativeGuiComponent() ...

Is that the service or the service provider?

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 12:44 AM

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service

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provider is alot longer

obtuse gale Oct 11, 2021, 12:44 AM

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Okay, and how are you providing the service?

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In module info

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 12:45 AM

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yup

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you want both of them?

obtuse gale Oct 11, 2021, 12:45 AM

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No, I mean, show me how you're doing it in module info

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Lmao

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 12:46 AM

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//provider
import net.yakclient.graphics.components.Box;
import net.yakclient.graphics.components.Text;
import net.yakclient.graphics.opengl2.components.OpenGL2Box;
import net.yakclient.graphics.opengl2.components.OpenGL2Text;

module yakclient.graphics.open2gl.components {
    requires kotlin.stdlib;
    requires yakclient.graphics.api;
    requires yakclient.graphics.util;
    requires yakclient.graphics.open2gl;
    requires yakclient.graphics.components;

    uses Box;
    uses Text;
    provides Box with OpenGL2Box;
    provides Text with OpenGL2Text;
}
//service
module yakclient.graphics.components {
    exports net.yakclient.graphics.components;

    requires yakclient.graphics.util;
    requires yakclient.graphics.api;

    requires yakclient.graphics.open2gl;
    requires kotlin.stdlib;

    uses net.yakclient.graphics.components.Box;
    uses net.yakclient.graphics.components.Text;
}

obtuse gale Oct 11, 2021, 12:47 AM

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Aren't Kotlin classes compiles to WhateverKt.class? Or that's to do with something else?

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 12:48 AM

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kotlin files are, not classes

ocean quartz Oct 11, 2021, 12:48 AM

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Yeah only files

obtuse gale Oct 11, 2021, 12:48 AM

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Ah

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 12:48 AM

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One second, doing a quick test

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I might know what it is

eternal compass Oct 11, 2021, 12:49 AM

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yooo

I think I've found the diff between golang and typescript.
Golang is much harder to do simple things, since everything is a bit complicated, but at the end of the day a large project in golang is gonna be much nicer

half harness Oct 11, 2021, 12:49 AM

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ooh golang

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is it nice?

eternal compass Oct 11, 2021, 12:49 AM

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very

half harness Oct 11, 2021, 12:49 AM

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go froggy!

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 12:50 AM

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obtuse gale Ah

uggh

half harness Oct 11, 2021, 12:50 AM

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eternal compass very

is it better than kotlin though 🤨

eternal compass Oct 11, 2021, 12:50 AM

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a bit of a learning curve, but only like 2 days and I've got my core almost entirely re created

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 12:50 AM

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for whatever reason my modules are being identified as unnamed modules

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so no module-info

half harness Oct 11, 2021, 12:50 AM

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hmm

eternal compass Oct 11, 2021, 12:50 AM

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half harness is it better than kotlin though 🤨

I've never used kotlin

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but its not JVM

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 12:50 AM

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i hate life

eternal compass Oct 11, 2021, 12:50 AM

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so thats a big plus

half harness Oct 11, 2021, 12:50 AM

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eternal compass I've never used kotlin

well
true

can u show some ex code?

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 12:50 AM

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eternal compass I've never used kotlin

kotlin native

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lol

eternal compass Oct 11, 2021, 12:50 AM

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eh fair

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here's my settings module

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https://paste.helpch.at/miwofaboco.go

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which interacts with all my other stuff

half harness Oct 11, 2021, 12:51 AM

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A

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golang = arrowlang?

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👀

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 12:51 AM

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obtuse gale Ah

ok thanks for the help, i think i figured it out, i just have no idea why java is being weird

obtuse gale Oct 11, 2021, 12:51 AM

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humble silo for whatever reason my modules are being identified as unnamed modules

well that just sounds like a jvm startup issue, lol

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 12:51 AM

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shoudlnt be unnamed

Screen_Shot_2021-10-10_at_5.51.48_PM.png

obtuse gale Oct 11, 2021, 12:52 AM

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are you sure you're using all the right flags and everything?

eternal compass Oct 11, 2021, 12:52 AM

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half harness A

the main things that take a bit to grasp are pointers, structs, and not having streams

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I want streams so badly

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but generics aren't a thing yet

half harness Oct 11, 2021, 12:52 AM

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🥲

eternal compass Oct 11, 2021, 12:52 AM

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they're gonna be in the next update I think

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 12:52 AM

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obtuse gale are you sure you're using all the right flags and everything?

gradle is doing it for me, but it should be

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gonna jar everything and see if the module-info is being include

half harness Oct 11, 2021, 12:53 AM

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hm

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idk if its because i don't know go

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but i'm feeling towards more kotlin 🤤

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|| but i say that for every language i haven't used before ||

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|| including kotlin ||

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|| so ||

eternal compass Oct 11, 2021, 12:54 AM

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the one thing kotlin almost definitely does better is error handling

half harness Oct 11, 2021, 12:54 AM

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|| idk ||

obtuse gale Oct 11, 2021, 12:54 AM

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humble silo gradle is doing it for me, but it should be

is there a way I can see the setup as a whole? or is it private?

eternal compass Oct 11, 2021, 12:54 AM

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go is just a bunch of if err != nill

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 12:54 AM

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obtuse gale is there a way I can see the setup as a whole? or is it private?

ya sure, lemme push

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ill dm the repo

obtuse gale Oct 11, 2021, 12:56 AM

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compile
🥲

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 12:58 AM

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obtuse gale > compile 🥲

alr thanks for taking a look, its fine if you dont find anything... thats pretty much my life atm

ocean quartz Oct 11, 2021, 12:59 AM

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half harness is it better than kotlin though 🤨

That question will never take you anywhere, some will say yes some will say no

half harness Oct 11, 2021, 1:00 AM

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why can't there be 1 language that has everything 😩

ocean quartz Oct 11, 2021, 1:02 AM

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Because people have different preferences

obtuse gale Oct 11, 2021, 1:03 AM

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I was having a conversation with a couple of fellas about that

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a few days ago

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let me find it

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[00:57] Simplicitee: like just take the good parts of each language and merge them
[08:35] OmniCypher: This sadly isn’t possible or realistic, “best features” is too subjective and many programming language capabilities have trade offs that aren’t compatible
[08:36] OmniCypher: The core paradigms too
[08:38] OmniCypher: Programming languages are tools best suited for the jobs they were designed to do, specializing makes them better at that
[08:39] OmniCypher: Either in how they are implemented or in their syntax
[08:44] OmniCypher: But I would strongly advocate using existing languages as case studies of what works well and what doesn’t, however, that kinda gives rise to the same issue we see with web frameworks lol
[08:45] OmniCypher: Pick the best tool for the job and make up for what they lack

A footnote on this

many programming language capabilities have trade offs that aren’t compatible
A paradigm "exists" because you take away certain capabilities to enhance others, you constrain the language to try and enforce to an extent a certain aspect while ignoring and/or discarding others; like technically, a language that "supports everything" would be something like assembly, you are free to do absolutely anything you want.. but yeah good luck with that

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@humble silo how are you building this? just ./gradlew build?

forest pecan Oct 11, 2021, 1:15 AM

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half harness why can't there be 1 language that has *everything* 😩

if u gonna combine everything thats equivalent to a fuckmess lmao

half harness Oct 11, 2021, 1:16 AM

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lol

forest pecan Oct 11, 2021, 1:16 AM

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as well as an impossible design issue

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xD

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its like pineapple and pizza

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i like pineapple itself, pizza itself

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but not everyone likes pineapple and pizza together

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 1:17 AM

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obtuse gale <@!579159669784838144> how are you building this? just `./gradlew build`?

Rn just running it with ij

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To jar it, using the jar task

eternal compass Oct 11, 2021, 1:31 AM

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ocean quartz Where slash commands? 😩

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its only been 4 hours

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but there we go

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it works

ocean quartz Oct 11, 2021, 1:32 AM

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Good good

eternal compass Oct 11, 2021, 1:32 AM

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lets go

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and its generified inside that specific command

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but every command will need to be built like this

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damn that'l be hell

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I'll do it tomorrow ig

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I also found out that >prefix set the prefix to nothing

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lmao

obtuse gale Oct 11, 2021, 2:27 AM

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@humble silo i'll take a look during the week (hopefully), i'm very tired rn and i've got quite a stack of things on my desk, sigh
btw which test are you, well, testing this on?

white bear Oct 11, 2021, 2:47 AM

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Hello, I'm very new to programming. I wanna ask whether there's a way to output the code to "cmd.exe" in Intellij instead of outputting it to the integrated run screen?

eternal compass Oct 11, 2021, 2:48 AM

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white bear Hello, I'm very new to programming. I wanna ask whether there's a way to output ...

Output what code?

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You can probably just run whatever command manually

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In a cmd.exe window

white bear Oct 11, 2021, 2:48 AM

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Oh, what's the command for that?

eternal compass Oct 11, 2021, 2:49 AM

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Command for what?

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Opening cmd.exe?

white bear Oct 11, 2021, 2:49 AM

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Like running the program in cmd

eternal compass Oct 11, 2021, 2:49 AM

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What program

white bear Oct 11, 2021, 2:49 AM

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The Intellij project

eternal compass Oct 11, 2021, 2:49 AM

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Wdym running the project? Compiling?

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running a jar file?

white bear Oct 11, 2021, 2:50 AM

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public class Main {
    public static void main(String[] args) {
        System.out.println("Hello!");
    }
}

Like if I have this in my project, how do I make it so when it compiles and run it opens up cmd.exe and display "Hello!"?

eternal compass Oct 11, 2021, 2:51 AM

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Are you using maven or gradle?

forest pecan Oct 11, 2021, 2:55 AM

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#development btw

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Also I wish large projects like JNA could actual document their code and make stuff neater

white bear Oct 11, 2021, 2:55 AM

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Oh sorry!

forest pecan Oct 11, 2021, 2:55 AM

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Like wtf is https://github.com/java-native-access/jna/blob/master/contrib/platform/src/com/sun/jna/platform/unix/X11.java xD

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🥲

old wyvern Oct 11, 2021, 3:03 AM

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forest pecan Like wtf is <https://github.com/java-native-access/jna/blob/master/contrib/platf...

Obviously thats the X11 library😌

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 3:06 AM

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obtuse gale <@!579159669784838144> i'll take a look during the week (hopefully), i'm very ti...

Dont worry about it, no reason for you to spend time on my stupid problems 🥲

forest pecan Oct 11, 2021, 3:10 AM

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old wyvern Obviously thats the X11 library😌

I hate that everything is impure

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like you have to create a new instance of an object first

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pass it into the function

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and it sets the properties of that object

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its so gross

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        final XTextProperty name = new XTextProperty();
        x11.XGetWMName(display, window, name);

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🤮

obtuse gale Oct 11, 2021, 3:15 AM

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That's pretty common in C libraries

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Win32 API flashbacks

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As a matter of fact, BM mentioned something about that too today

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#dev-general message

forest pecan Oct 11, 2021, 3:17 AM

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obtuse gale Win32 API flashbacks

true 😦

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 3:28 AM

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@obtuse gale Got it working... now gotta figure out how to make it work for java 8

distant sun Oct 11, 2021, 5:35 AM

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Me at work :))

old wyvern Oct 11, 2021, 8:30 AM

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distant sun Me at work :))

🥲

half harness Oct 11, 2021, 1:01 PM

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uhh matt ```
Caused by: java.lang.ClassCastException: class java.lang.String cannot be cast to class java.util.Optional (java.lang.String and java.util.Optional are in module java.base of loader 'bootstrap')

the only line of code in the stacktrace: ```kt
val footer = module.config.get(CoolConfig.FOOTER).orElseGet { null } ?: return
``````kt
val FOOTER: Property<Optional<String>> = Property.createOptional("Text")

ocean quartz Oct 11, 2021, 2:08 PM

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half harness uhh matt ``` Caused by: java.lang.ClassCastException: class java.lang.String can...

Ah, optional probably needs some work still, put it on a bean it works there

half harness Oct 11, 2021, 2:08 PM

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ok

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👍

static zealot Oct 11, 2021, 2:19 PM

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boiiiisss

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we did it

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we went to uni just for free github pro

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sick belfry Oct 11, 2021, 2:39 PM

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static zealot

awwww fuck

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2 more years 2 MORE YEARS

dense dew Oct 11, 2021, 2:57 PM

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static zealot we went to uni just for free github pro

👍

old wyvern Oct 11, 2021, 3:40 PM

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static zealot

Congrats!

static zealot Oct 11, 2021, 3:44 PM

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ty ❤️

hot hull Oct 11, 2021, 3:45 PM

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pathetic

static zealot Oct 11, 2021, 3:45 PM

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hot hull pathetic

https://tenor.com/view/who-asked-me-trying-to-find-who-asked-spongebob-spunch-bob-gif-22526294

Tenor

sly sonnet Oct 11, 2021, 4:54 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/sgtcoffee-gif-21179473

Tenor

obtuse gale Oct 11, 2021, 6:30 PM

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@wheat harness please accept friend request

onyx loom Oct 11, 2021, 8:11 PM

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for hacktoberfest can i just pr 4 times to the same repo?

static zealot Oct 11, 2021, 8:12 PM

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hopefully

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only pred to FJoin I believe

ocean quartz Oct 11, 2021, 8:15 PM

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onyx loom for hacktoberfest can i just pr 4 times to the same repo?

Yes according to the rules
You can even pr your own repos

onyx loom Oct 11, 2021, 8:15 PM

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lmao thats what im doing rn

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so in theory i could just do 4 PRs to my own repo, ez clap

static zealot Oct 11, 2021, 8:16 PM

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lmao

humble silo Oct 11, 2021, 10:01 PM

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Is 4 the min amount for getting stuff?

gusty glen Oct 11, 2021, 10:47 PM

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what config libraries there are that parse a class and generate a yaml based on that class?

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I'm editing a project that is using a lib that does that, but it has bugs with text deserialization

ocean quartz Oct 11, 2021, 10:51 PM

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Configurate, ConfigMe, Kotlinx Serialization (i think)

obtuse gale Oct 11, 2021, 10:51 PM

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Configurate 😌

gusty glen Oct 11, 2021, 10:52 PM

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obtuse gale Configurate 😌

does it parse a config class directly to yaml?

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this is the faulty lib: https://github.com/2DevsStudio/SimpleJSONConfig

obtuse gale Oct 11, 2021, 10:53 PM

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why yaml tho

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/711760263598047382.png?size=64

gusty glen Oct 11, 2021, 10:53 PM

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obtuse gale why yaml tho

why not yaml?

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it works, and is better to read than json

obtuse gale Oct 11, 2021, 10:54 PM

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yaml is vomiting

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anyway, not "directly to yaml" necessarily, but to any of the implementations there are

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you can write your own type serializers too

ocean quartz Oct 11, 2021, 10:54 PM

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Yaml is fine for user config
Hocon better though

gusty glen Oct 11, 2021, 10:55 PM

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I just cba to convert that giant config class or provide 12345 methods to access the configs through paths

obtuse gale Oct 11, 2021, 10:55 PM

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what

gusty glen Oct 11, 2021, 10:55 PM

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hence why I'm asking for libs that does that automatically

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or in other words, a replacement for the faulty lib

obtuse gale Oct 11, 2021, 10:56 PM

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I'm not sure if configurate does reflective de/serialization

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gson for sure does

ocean quartz Oct 11, 2021, 10:57 PM

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ConfigMe does reflective too

gusty glen Oct 11, 2021, 11:05 PM

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What minecraft and java have in common? Both are stuck on 1.8

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https://tenor.com/view/john-jonah-jameson-lol-laughing-hysterically-laughing-out-loud-funny-gif-17710543

Tenor

obtuse gale Oct 11, 2021, 11:07 PM

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neither are but... sure

ocean quartz Oct 11, 2021, 11:10 PM

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Only the cry babies are stuck in 1.8

gusty glen Oct 11, 2021, 11:11 PM

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the resistance? haha

obtuse gale Oct 11, 2021, 11:11 PM

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resistance is futile

somber tulip Oct 11, 2021, 11:41 PM

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Ah yes, plugin planning is going well so far.

eternal compass Oct 12, 2021, 12:58 AM

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To everyone here that knows go, can I get opinions on this discord bot module system?
https://paste.helpch.at/uhequponim.go

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thats an example module

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it lets you run a command to create a button with some given text

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then when you click the button it gets the text (saved from earlier) with the message ID and an ID (for multi-button messages), and replies with the associated text

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 4:14 AM

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ocean quartz Configurate, ConfigMe, Kotlinx Serialization (i think)

Mfconfig 😌

obtuse gale Oct 12, 2021, 5:24 AM

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I did a thing I'm very proud of :peepohappy:

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might post in #showcase 👉👈

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k done 😳

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 5:36 AM

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lmao

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good job

obtuse gale Oct 12, 2021, 5:39 AM

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literally nightmare fuel

jovial warren Oct 12, 2021, 8:26 AM

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Finally got the Krypton Pterodactyl egg merged in to the upstream repo, big pog

lavish notch Oct 12, 2021, 8:28 AM

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jovial warren Finally got the Krypton Pterodactyl egg merged in to the upstream repo, big pog

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You got it in the base install of ptero, or just the eggs repo

distant sun Oct 12, 2021, 8:30 AM

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Has anybody tried to see if roblox dev could be a source of money?

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 8:31 AM

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well

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@eager fern

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is a roblox dev

distant sun Oct 12, 2021, 8:32 AM

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For real though

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 8:32 AM

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for real

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@eager fern wake up and tell this man ^^

eager fern Oct 12, 2021, 8:32 AM

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it has money

distant sun Oct 12, 2021, 8:32 AM

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I have randomly found on google that 100k robux are 350$

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 8:32 AM

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you don't get all of that

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there's cuts roblox take

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and I'm pretty sure they're high

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but if you hit the jackpot, you hit the jackpot

distant sun Oct 12, 2021, 8:33 AM

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No like, when you have 100k you can withdraw them for 350$

eager fern Oct 12, 2021, 8:33 AM

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You pay like $5 a month and you get like 70% of it if you dont pay the $5 a month you only get like %25 or someshit

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You gotta have minimum 100k to withdraw

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nothing lower

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 8:33 AM

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wait I have a video on all of that gaby. will try and find it

distant sun Oct 12, 2021, 8:33 AM

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Yeah that @eager fern

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 8:33 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gXlauRB1EQ

YouTube

People Make Games

Investigation: How Roblox Is Exploiting Young Game Developers

With Roblox Corporation now being valued at more than $45 billion, we ask whether the kids making the vast majority of its content are being taken advantage of?

Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/PeopleMakeGames

Written and presented by Quintin Smith:
https://twitter.com/Quinns108

Design and art direction by Anni Sayers:
https://t...

▶ Play video

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here. watch this

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this will make you not want to do it

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anymore

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xD

distant sun Oct 12, 2021, 8:34 AM

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🤣 🤣

eager fern Oct 12, 2021, 8:34 AM

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I know someone making alot

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on roblox

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its crazy

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 8:35 AM

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the problem is that there's only a few that make crazy amounts

eager fern Oct 12, 2021, 8:35 AM

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theres alot

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lol

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people who make 10 servers it adds up

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10 different gamemodes

distant sun Oct 12, 2021, 8:42 AM

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I see

jovial warren Oct 12, 2021, 8:55 AM

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lavish notch You got it in the base install of ptero, or just the eggs repo

The eggs repo, the one maintained by parker

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That's basically the official one

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 8:55 AM

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jovial warren The eggs repo, the one maintained by parker

https://tenor.com/view/que-malote-spiderman-peter-parker-smile-gif-4498848

Tenor

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 8:56 AM

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jovial warren Finally got the Krypton Pterodactyl egg merged in to the upstream repo, big pog

OMGGGG WWWWWWW!!!

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 8:56 AM

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Whats the current status on krypton btw?

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how far does it work now

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 8:56 AM

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not working

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 8:56 AM

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oh

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🥲

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 8:56 AM

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that was a joke

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xD

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 8:56 AM

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xD

jovial warren Oct 12, 2021, 9:06 AM

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old wyvern how far does it work now

Somewhat

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It's somewhere between 1/8 and 1/4 done I reckon

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Or maybe less than that, idk

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I've probably spent the last maybe month trying to clean up everything to make it not a mess lol

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Man, library internet lol

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It's so bad that I'm now standing outside in decently cold weather just to get decent signal lol

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The API has been through quite a few reforms in the month I've spent refining it

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It's now a lot more like Sponge, in the fact that no getters have get prefixes, everything is an interface, and it's very registry oriented, though it's even more registry oriented than Sponge due to me trying to make it extensible enough for modified clients

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Sponge is a good API, but we aren't using it because it's not Kotlin friendly and it has a dedication to not supporting modified clients because, well, you can use Forge for that, or at least, you can on vanilla

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 9:19 AM

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jovial warren Man, library internet lol

Are you at 6th form now?

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Or college

jovial warren Oct 12, 2021, 9:23 AM

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6th form

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Where are you now? You finished sixth form yet?

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:33 AM

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What the hell is 6th form?

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 9:34 AM

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uk schools my frien

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d

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:35 AM

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🥲

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Why does every country have this vastly different education system

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 9:36 AM

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because

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:36 AM

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because

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 9:36 AM

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jovial warren Where are you now? You finished sixth form yet?

Nah year 2

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Shit's hard

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What are you taking?

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 9:36 AM

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what is 6th form tho? is it like highschool?

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or?

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 9:37 AM

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uh

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So

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You have secondary school which is from 11 to 16

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Then you can either go on to 6th form or college, which are 16-18

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 9:37 AM

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Ic.

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 9:37 AM

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College is more like work stuff whereas 6form is more academic things

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 9:38 AM

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we got priamry - secondary then you chose highschool or professional

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 9:38 AM

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pretty similar then

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 9:38 AM

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yeah

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is it the us where uni is called college? bcz thought you're talking about uni

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 9:40 AM

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Yeah i think so

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us is weird

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 9:40 AM

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xD

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:40 AM

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We just have grade 1-12 here 🥲

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 9:40 AM

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well same yugi.

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:40 AM

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Elementary (1-8) Secondary (9-12) or something

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idk xD

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 9:40 AM

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yeah it's pretty much the same for us, they just have different names

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Yeah

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:40 AM

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static zealot well same yugi.

ahh

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 9:41 AM

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oh. we got primary 1-4

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secondary 4-8

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:41 AM

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prisma wave yeah it's pretty much the same for us, they just have different names

Dont you have an extra year

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 9:41 AM

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then highschool is usually 9-12 a

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 9:41 AM

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I don't think so

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:41 AM

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From wiki it says 6th form has a 13th year

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 9:41 AM

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Oh wait yeah

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 9:41 AM

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and if you go to a professional highschool it can be 3 or 4 I think

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 9:41 AM

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Bro I'm so stupid I'm literally in year 13

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:41 AM

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🥲

frigid badge Oct 12, 2021, 9:42 AM

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we have primary then you choose what level you take and then you go to secondary school for that, then after secondary school you can choose depending on what level you took to go to university, higher vocational education or intermediate vocational education

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 9:43 AM

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Sounds fairly similar

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 9:43 AM

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so similar to yugi I guess. ours is a bit different.

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:43 AM

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choose what level you take
What does that mean tho?

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 9:43 AM

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well I assume profiles?

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that's how we have it here

frigid badge Oct 12, 2021, 9:43 AM

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no not profiles

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:43 AM

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No idea what that is blitz

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 9:43 AM

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oh nvm then

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we have for example Maths and Informatics

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is one profile

frigid badge Oct 12, 2021, 9:43 AM

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we also have profiles but that is halfway through secondary school

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:43 AM

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Oh

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 9:43 AM

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so most classes will be about that

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:43 AM

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we call those "streams" here

frigid badge Oct 12, 2021, 9:44 AM

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the levels are mostly determined by a test you take and your teacher/ what you want yourself

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:44 AM

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We only have a choice for that during the last 2 years

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grade 11 and 12

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:44 AM

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frigid badge the levels are mostly determined by a test you take and your teacher/ what you w...

ahh

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 9:44 AM

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ah. we chose since grade 9

frigid badge Oct 12, 2021, 9:44 AM

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but the level basically just means how smart you are lol

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:44 AM

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ahh

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 9:44 AM

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but we do have an exam at the end of grade 8 so even if you want a profile you'll need to have higher grades than most people that want that profile (you can of course chose other schools) to get in

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no levels here tho

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 9:45 AM

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old wyvern we call those "streams" here

So the students are lazy?

frigid badge Oct 12, 2021, 9:45 AM

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lmao

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:45 AM

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prisma wave So the students are lazy?

xD

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well yes

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For us the competitiveness is mostly after 12th, the entrance exams to unis

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 9:45 AM

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Yeah uni is super competitive

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 9:45 AM

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not for me this year lmao

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 9:46 AM

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We've got to write 4000 characters** about ourselves saying how good we are

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 9:46 AM

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lmaooo

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I am veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodddddddddddddddddddddddd

frigid badge Oct 12, 2021, 9:46 AM

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I basically quit school so I don’t actually have any of that lol

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:46 AM

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We have an aptitude test for each subject, for example IIT-JEE for Engineering

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Its supposed to be on the top 20 toughest exams or something

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 9:47 AM

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frigid badge I basically quit school so I don’t actually have any of that lol

lmao. I Want to see how much of this math I can handle lmao.

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:47 AM

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frigid badge I basically quit school so I don’t actually have any of that lol

xD

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 9:48 AM

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old wyvern We have an aptitude test for each subject, for example IIT-JEE for Engineering

Have a look at the Cambridge CSAT paper

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It makes me want to die

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:49 AM

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I think this was my paper

📎 mathongo_jee_main_2019_10_january_morning_shift.pdf

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Not completely sure

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it was either 9th or 10th

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got 89.75 percentile

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:49 AM

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prisma wave Have a look at the Cambridge CSAT paper

😮

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Lemme check

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 9:49 AM

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aw physics

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:49 AM

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Physics chem and maths

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 9:49 AM

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old wyvern got 89.75 percentile

that's pretty good

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idk physics and chem :(

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:50 AM

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prisma wave that's pretty good

Not for general category sadly

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 9:50 AM

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idk math... xD

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:50 AM

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We have this reservation system for the old caste system

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I'm from the general category so I get no reservations

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 9:50 AM

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Ok the maths section does look pretty hard

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:50 AM

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So I need 90%+ percentile to qualify for the next exam

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 9:50 AM

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Jeez

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That's rough

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:51 AM

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yea, but the SC/ST caste can get through with like 50%+ ussually

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its actually so fucking annoying

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 9:52 AM

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I'm so sorry

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:54 AM

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🥲

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 9:54 AM

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This makes the csat look easy

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 9:54 AM

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I dont think many people really even attend maths in this

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People focus mostly on chemistry and physics

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maths is a last resort

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I think I only got like 10-12 down in maths

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the easy nitpicked ones

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2018 there was some guy who actually scored a 100% on this I think

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 9:57 AM

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wow

jovial warren Oct 12, 2021, 10:03 AM

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prisma wave What are you taking?

Maths, further maths, CS, and business, but I may be dropping business soon

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 10:04 AM

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a lot of maths

old wyvern Oct 12, 2021, 10:05 AM

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further maths

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 10:14 AM

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ah nice

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4 is possible

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I'm still doing 4

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But it's a lot harder

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 10:44 AM

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does github have anything against multiple accounts? or is that fine?

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 10:47 AM

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I have 3 without any further issues

simple kestrel Oct 12, 2021, 11:43 AM

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3 👀

wind patio Oct 12, 2021, 11:51 AM

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forest pecan Oct 12, 2021, 11:59 AM

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wind patio

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/q6fe8i/shoutout_to_all_the_null_pointers_just_doing/

r/ProgrammerHumor - shoutout to all the null pointers just doing th...

1,867 votes and 32 comments so far on Reddit

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did you steal it from that

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i was scrolling down my feed and found that

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lol

wind patio Oct 12, 2021, 12:04 PM

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yes

remote goblet Oct 12, 2021, 12:20 PM

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static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 12:22 PM

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remote goblet

I do not mind

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https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0qQ-qzdCKAs/Vl41fkxD1CI/AAAAAAADE8Y/tjyj-H4f5zk/s1600/My+favorite+edit+I've+done+to+date+-+Imgur.gif?fbclid=IwAR0LXgv2eeltHPo1Ad5IpsvCOe_r2CBp_LjqdNHChDrEvaVCcTGxDQAX_Ow

remote goblet Oct 12, 2021, 12:23 PM

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sly sonnet Oct 12, 2021, 12:32 PM

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sweet cipher Oct 12, 2021, 12:33 PM

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It’s not admitting; that would be called lying.

remote goblet Oct 12, 2021, 12:57 PM

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I’d like to actually know where python is useful

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I can’t think of something where python can be practically used

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 12:58 PM

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small pocs where quality doesn't matter

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it's the only use case

remote goblet Oct 12, 2021, 12:59 PM

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In my mind python is a language for people to learn to get the basics down of code catpeek but can’t really be used much outside of that

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 12:59 PM

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can't is the wrong word

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python can be used for pretty much everything

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it just shouldn't be used for anything

remote goblet Oct 12, 2021, 1:00 PM

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or if it can be used, other languages can do it better lmao

hot hull Oct 12, 2021, 1:01 PM

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remote goblet In my mind python is a language for people to learn to get the basics down of co...

You wanna know where it's used

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In a robotic arm, however since fuck python, we switched it out for lua

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:01 PM

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good choice

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is lua a yay or nay for you?

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:01 PM

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nay

hot hull Oct 12, 2021, 1:01 PM

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Haven't messed with it much, but doesn't look all that bad

remote goblet Oct 12, 2021, 1:02 PM

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I saw some lua recently, from what I saw it feels too pseudo

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but I’m prob wrong

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:02 PM

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lua was designed with one purpose in mind

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to be an embedded language

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for things like mods (which is why it's used for roblox for example)

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interacting with a robotic arm is a good use for it too I think

remote goblet Oct 12, 2021, 1:03 PM

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so in conclusion python isn’t a bad language, there’s usually just alternatives that are better amongUs

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:03 PM

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no python is bad

hot hull Oct 12, 2021, 1:03 PM

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Since this is a "school" project, I gotta do all the code related shit, which is sad that I'm the only one in school that actually programs

remote goblet Oct 12, 2021, 1:03 PM

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oh okay

remote goblet Oct 12, 2021, 1:04 PM

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hot hull Since this is a "school" project, I gotta do all the code related shit, which is...

heavily relate

hot hull Oct 12, 2021, 1:04 PM

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snek bad

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I remember when I was applying for jetbrains license, when I had to add my school to the gh file

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Was sad noone had to before

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:04 PM

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Lua is just slightly less bad python

remote goblet Oct 12, 2021, 1:05 PM

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programming class where in 5 hours worth of classes, no actual programming has been learnt catpeek

hot hull Oct 12, 2021, 1:05 PM

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What you studying exactly Ori?

remote goblet Oct 12, 2021, 1:05 PM

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I’m doing a general IT course in college

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which includes overall programming, web development and app development plus some extra shit about computer functionality

onyx loom Oct 12, 2021, 1:06 PM

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programming in school is just people botching things together and hoping it works

remote goblet Oct 12, 2021, 1:06 PM

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Web developing is my favourite class out of them all StareIntoYourSoul I fucking hate html/css

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:06 PM

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these seem like conflicting statements

remote goblet Oct 12, 2021, 1:06 PM

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I know

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That’s the frustrating part

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:07 PM

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most developers r lazy these days

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don't even make some fancy css & html

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just use vue or whatever

remote goblet Oct 12, 2021, 1:07 PM

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I hate doing html/css but I have app development today twice

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and in that app development class, what have we done

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tlwSparklesYellow PowerPoint, Microsoft Publisher and Microsoft Access (to learn dbs)

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Web development is the only one where we’re actually doing what the class is about so far

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

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quiet depot just use vue or whatever

Ever heard of elm

remote goblet Oct 12, 2021, 1:09 PM

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elm street? Kappa

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:09 PM

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yes, heard of it

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but no clue what it is

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enlighten me

gusty glen Oct 12, 2021, 1:10 PM

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wait, why is gradle not recognizing api?

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:10 PM

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https://elm-lang.org

home

A delightful language with friendly error messages, great performance, small assets, and no runtime exceptions.

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best language for web development

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:10 PM

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u need the java-library ploogin

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i didn't realise elm was web dev

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:10 PM

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yes sir

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Web Dev and web dev only

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:11 PM

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I thought it was just another fp circlejerk

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:11 PM

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well it is

onyx loom Oct 12, 2021, 1:11 PM

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gusty glen wait, why is gradle not recognizing `api`?

so much for gradle kts "no errors"

ocean quartz Oct 12, 2021, 1:11 PM

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onyx loom so much for gradle kts "no errors"

"No random warnings"*

remote goblet Oct 12, 2021, 1:11 PM

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I’ve been so bored today

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My phone went from 100% to 20% in 6 hours

onyx loom Oct 12, 2021, 1:12 PM

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L

gusty glen Oct 12, 2021, 1:12 PM

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quiet depot u need the java-library ploogin

thanks

remote goblet Oct 12, 2021, 1:12 PM

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I now need to make this 20% last until 5pm

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catpeek

onyx loom Oct 12, 2021, 1:12 PM

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Good luck

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I suggest getting off discord

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:13 PM

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what do you guys think the acceleration is of a hot wheels car from a hot wheels launcher

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i can't find the answer on google

remote goblet Oct 12, 2021, 1:13 PM

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I have two hours worth of classes so PepePray

onyx loom Oct 12, 2021, 1:13 PM

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I heard that saves power

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:13 PM

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Anyway elm good js bad

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 1:13 PM

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😮

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:13 PM

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bm

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:13 PM

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Hot take of the day

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:13 PM

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when we're using js as the "bad"

onyx loom Oct 12, 2021, 1:13 PM

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quiet depot what do you guys think the acceleration is of a hot wheels car from a hot wheels...

atleast 1

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:13 PM

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yeah ik ik

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how about this then

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Elm good TS bad

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Now that's a take

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 1:14 PM

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wwooww

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:14 PM

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idk i'm a bit of a virgin with these new languages

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 1:14 PM

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no

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:14 PM

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I haven't used ts

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 1:14 PM

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TS good apart from the marathon types

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:14 PM

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onyx loom atleast 1

pls

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it's important

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i need help to find the answer

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:14 PM

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TS bad

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 1:14 PM

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no u

onyx loom Oct 12, 2021, 1:14 PM

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that's my final answer

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:15 PM

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Also guess what inspired frameworks like react (redux)

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:15 PM

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simon?

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 1:15 PM

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okay but still

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TS good

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:p

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:15 PM

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Indirectly

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Simon -> Haskell -> elm -> redux

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:15 PM

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i've never used react or redux

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or elm

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or haskell

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:16 PM

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what

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smh

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 1:16 PM

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Yaa well arguably Java exposes the functional paradigm quite decently imo

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:16 PM

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i make all my sites from scratch

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well not scratch

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 1:16 PM

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so no need to ever touch haskell

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:16 PM

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just bootstrap

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:16 PM

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most popular JS framework and you've never heard of it

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:16 PM

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but that's like scratch compared to these fancy frameworks

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I've heard of react

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I've just never looked at it

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:17 PM

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ok

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 1:17 PM

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:p

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:17 PM

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Well

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It's good

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 1:17 PM

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vue also I hope

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:17 PM

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And was inspired by elm

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So

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:D

ocean quartz Oct 12, 2021, 1:17 PM

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steel heart Yaa well arguably Java exposes the functional paradigm quite decently imo

Java is a Functional Language designed by Ryan Gosling in 2049

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:17 PM

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I just never had a need for any of these things

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so never bothered looking into them

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 1:17 PM

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ocean quartz Java is a Functional Language designed by Ryan Gosling in 2049

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:18 PM

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So true

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I almost namedropped simon in my uni application

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Was very tempted

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 1:18 PM

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lmao

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:18 PM

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should've done an acrostic

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 1:18 PM

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xD

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:19 PM

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that would be a good idea

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:19 PM

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is it too late?

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:19 PM

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an acrostic of simon_peek

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pretty much

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:19 PM

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doesn't sound like a definite yes

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:19 PM

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Gonna submit it today 😳

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:19 PM

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well then it's not too late

obtuse gale Oct 12, 2021, 1:19 PM

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anyone good with blockbench

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:19 PM

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hire someone on fiverr to do it

obtuse gale Oct 12, 2021, 1:19 PM

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quiet depot hire someone on fiverr to do it

who u talking to

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and again

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:20 PM

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It might be a bit late to rewrite the whole thing

obtuse gale Oct 12, 2021, 1:20 PM

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god

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wait

ocean quartz Oct 12, 2021, 1:20 PM

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How many blocks can you bench?

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:20 PM

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2^69 blocks of air

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 1:20 PM

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obtuse gale anyone good with blockbench

yes

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:20 PM

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bm sly

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:21 PM

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?

obtuse gale Oct 12, 2021, 1:21 PM

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steel heart yes

ooooooo

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:21 PM

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oh

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lol

obtuse gale Oct 12, 2021, 1:21 PM

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steel heart yes

can u help me with my server

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:21 PM

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have you ever heard of elm

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 1:21 PM

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Sry but no, maybe when the sports break starts I'll get some free time

obtuse gale Oct 12, 2021, 1:21 PM

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concle

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:21 PM

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what sport

obtuse gale Oct 12, 2021, 1:21 PM

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look in dm

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later on

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:21 PM

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incoming feet pics

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 1:21 PM

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idk swedish break

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in school

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:21 PM

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oh

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 1:22 PM

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ok sly

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:22 PM

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recess/lunch?

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 1:22 PM

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uh its like a break from school, 1 week or so

ocean quartz Oct 12, 2021, 1:22 PM

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Concle :kekw:

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:22 PM

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ic

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 1:23 PM

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idk why its called sports break but yeah

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:23 PM

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i suppose the expectation is to engage in vigorous sport

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are you engaging in vigorous sport? during the sport break

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:23 PM

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1 week of nonstop sports

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 1:23 PM

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Hmm if programming counts as one then yeah

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:23 PM

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precisely

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no

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it doesn't

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benching blocks does though

onyx loom Oct 12, 2021, 1:24 PM

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very vigorous sport

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:24 PM

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steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 1:24 PM

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Well then no, maybe I'll visit the tennis arena

ocean quartz Oct 12, 2021, 1:24 PM

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steel heart Hmm if programming counts as one then yeah

CTF!

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 1:24 PM

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but thats a huge commitment

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 1:24 PM

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ocean quartz CTF!

🥲

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:25 PM

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prisma wave

running install scripts is one of the most anxiety inducing things in the world

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:25 PM

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just run everything in docker 😈

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:25 PM

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does my name start with lemmo?

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and end with tresto?

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 1:25 PM

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lmao

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:25 PM

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I think not

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:28 PM

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it should do

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Would be an improvement

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:28 PM

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oh

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well...

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uhh

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you're british

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get rekt

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:28 PM

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💀

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 1:29 PM

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skedule

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shedule 😮

humble silo Oct 12, 2021, 1:29 PM

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@obtuse gale #showcase message

Smh, just got the service loader stuff working.... Doesnt google have this too? Couldnt seem to get theirs working...

Can i get yours on mvn central or something?

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:30 PM

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Service loader fans configuring the pee file and the poop annotation

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:30 PM

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i am confuzled

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i do not understand this sentence

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:32 PM

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they configure the pee file and the poop annotation in order to use the service loader because they are service loader fans

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:32 PM

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was more so the pee & poop that got me confused

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:32 PM

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they are the funny words

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I think

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:32 PM

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would be funnier if they were official names

onyx loom Oct 12, 2021, 1:32 PM

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haha yes pee and poop

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:33 PM

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if I was the developer of a big lang

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I would definitely be calling shit peepee and poopoo

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:34 PM

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Go on then

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What are you waiting for

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:34 PM

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i'm not the developer of a big lang

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but you have potential with elara

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if it ever becomes big

onyx loom Oct 12, 2021, 1:34 PM

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add it in papi 3 ez

humble silo Oct 12, 2021, 1:35 PM

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prisma wave Service loader fans configuring the pee file and the poop annotation

has-bad-kell fans being mean to others because they cant keep up with the times

humble silo Oct 12, 2021, 1:35 PM

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quiet depot i do not understand this sentence

bet you understand this one

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:35 PM

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would you guys be mad if Expansion was renamed to PeePee

humble silo Oct 12, 2021, 1:35 PM

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yes

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PeePoo

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better

onyx loom Oct 12, 2021, 1:35 PM

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absolutely not

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please do it

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:35 PM

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PeePooBumBum

humble silo Oct 12, 2021, 1:36 PM

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passable

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@obtuse gale If you get your thing on maven or something, please ping me, i hate having to configure service files!

ocean quartz Oct 12, 2021, 1:37 PM

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3 billion devices run Elara

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:37 PM

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humble silo has-bad-kell fans being mean to others because they cant keep up with the times

Java fans writing the same 3 lines of boilerplate 50000000 times because otherwise they'll be lynched by the community

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:37 PM

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the amount of devices that run java is a universal constant

onyx loom Oct 12, 2021, 1:38 PM

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hmm if its a universal constant can we make a new measuring system out of it?

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:38 PM

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yes let's derive the speed of light, the length of a second, the length of a metre, the length of my schlong, and the weight of a kilogram from it

onyx loom Oct 12, 2021, 1:39 PM

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👍

humble silo Oct 12, 2021, 1:39 PM

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prisma wave Java fans writing the same 3 lines of boilerplate 50000000 times because otherwi...

boilerplate more like ~~satan~~ fun

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gotchu there

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ok i gotta

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go

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adios

quiet depot Oct 12, 2021, 1:39 PM

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goodbye sir

ocean quartz Oct 12, 2021, 1:39 PM

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If light is C, devices that run Java is J
Therefore, E = MJ^2

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 1:40 PM

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ok bye

obtuse gale Oct 12, 2021, 1:48 PM

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ok

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 1:53 PM

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oh boy. ssd arrived. time to move everything and hope it won't mess everything up

distant sun Oct 12, 2021, 1:57 PM

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arduino is nice so far 😮

ocean quartz Oct 12, 2021, 1:58 PM

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Arduino is pretty cool

distant sun Oct 12, 2021, 1:58 PM

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ikr

remote goblet Oct 12, 2021, 2:15 PM

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YesYes

hot hull Oct 12, 2021, 2:26 PM

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What's not nice is that I got sent a shitty one with my cnc kit

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So waiting on a new one sadge

gusty glen Oct 12, 2021, 3:00 PM

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weird... why I can't (or shoudn't) override certain method returns with @Nullable when I declare default qualifier to @NotNull?

obtuse gale Oct 12, 2021, 3:18 PM

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humble silo <@456226577798135808> https://discord.com/channels/164280494874165248/4522797088...

It is on central, yes 😛

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Read the readme :p

static zealot Oct 12, 2021, 3:26 PM

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static zealot oh boy. ssd arrived. time to move everything and hope it won't mess everything u...

So first small issue. Only the C and D show up for migration. Nothing about the linux part.

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Well. Fuck

humble silo Oct 12, 2021, 3:30 PM

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obtuse gale It is on central, yes 😛

Nice, at school atm, but ill check it out when i get home!

gusty glen Oct 12, 2021, 3:33 PM

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obtuse gale It is on central, yes 😛

nice, very nice indeed

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I'm trying to create a config library that works just like Spring Boot, based sole on annotations

obtuse gale Oct 12, 2021, 3:50 PM

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@steel heart @prisma wave why the downvote.. and upvote? thonking

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 3:50 PM

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upvote because cool, downvote because you made it :)

obtuse gale Oct 12, 2021, 3:50 PM

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😐

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 4:03 PM

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Oh count it as two upvotes

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(:

obtuse gale Oct 12, 2021, 4:16 PM

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I want to know why tho

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 4:17 PM

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Idk you can’t upvote twice

obtuse gale Oct 12, 2021, 4:19 PM

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.. ok

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I guess asking for feedback is too much of a task

ocean quartz Oct 12, 2021, 4:28 PM

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It's great, don't listen to the haters 😩

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 4:28 PM

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Sadly I don’t have much experience when it comes to service loaders nor jigsaw but I might give it shot with your annot thing (:

hot hull Oct 12, 2021, 4:34 PM

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yuckie

dense dew Oct 12, 2021, 4:35 PM

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why are you downgrading emily s thing in showcase are you joking or is it bad 😳

hot hull Oct 12, 2021, 4:35 PM

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issa joke

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or is it

charred yew Oct 12, 2021, 4:36 PM

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How do i setup maven in eclipse for custom placeholders please?

remote goblet Oct 12, 2021, 4:39 PM

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most people here use intellij

obtuse gale Oct 12, 2021, 4:39 PM

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steel heart Sadly I don’t have much experience when it comes to service loaders nor jigsaw b...

It's not really to do with jigsaw, service loader API has been a thing ever since Java 6 or so, lol
Jigsaw did expand the integration with it though

remote goblet Oct 12, 2021, 4:39 PM

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also #development CB_fingerguns

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 4:41 PM

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obtuse gale It's not really to do with jigsaw, service loader API has been a thing ever sinc...

Ah fair

obtuse gale Oct 12, 2021, 4:45 PM

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It actually would've been a perfect usage for something like Bukkit plugin loading but hey ho

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 4:48 PM

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Doubt md69 would allocate the effort to switch to that instead, maybe if someone prd tho lol

ocean quartz Oct 12, 2021, 4:49 PM

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I like how spigot is open source but you can't pr unless you have an account which you can't freely make

distant sun Oct 12, 2021, 5:02 PM

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Open source

sick belfry Oct 12, 2021, 5:22 PM

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ohhh god

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what I'm working on is just so big that will change a lot of technical things

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spoiler: ||is a framework||

obtuse gale Oct 12, 2021, 5:35 PM

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What happened with YatopiaMC Discord

sly sonnet Oct 12, 2021, 5:36 PM

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charred yew How do i setup maven in eclipse for custom placeholders please?

dont pls

onyx loom Oct 12, 2021, 5:36 PM

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yatopia was discontinued wasnt it?

sweet cipher Oct 12, 2021, 5:38 PM

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sick belfry spoiler: ||is a framework||

What’s the framework?

sick belfry Oct 12, 2021, 5:39 PM

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sweet cipher What’s the framework?

its still in early development but it would make your life a lot easier

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I call it

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STARS Framework

sweet cipher Oct 12, 2021, 5:42 PM

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What is it?

obtuse gale Oct 12, 2021, 5:43 PM

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onyx loom yatopia was discontinued wasnt it?

They stopped development of the core, but did not say that they would remove the discord

humble silo Oct 12, 2021, 5:43 PM

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obtuse gale It actually would've been a *perfect* usage for something like Bukkit plugin lo...

My use entirely... hehhee

humble silo Oct 12, 2021, 5:44 PM

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sick belfry STARS Framework

STARWork would be better imo

sick belfry Oct 12, 2021, 5:45 PM

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sweet cipher What is it?

I dont get your question

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sorry

sick belfry Oct 12, 2021, 5:45 PM

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humble silo STARWork would be better imo

maybe

ocean quartz Oct 12, 2021, 5:52 PM

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sick belfry I dont get your question

He's asking what does your framework do, "framework" could be literally anything

sweet cipher Oct 12, 2021, 6:12 PM

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Yeah

sick belfry Oct 12, 2021, 6:20 PM

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ocean quartz He's asking what does your framework do, "framework" could be literally anything

oh got it

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it will be mainly for spigot plugin development

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and a bit of not related to it, just utility

ocean quartz Oct 12, 2021, 6:22 PM

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That is still so vague xD

sweet cipher Oct 12, 2021, 6:36 PM

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Yeah

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That’s less of a framework and more a library

sweet cipher Oct 12, 2021, 6:37 PM

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sick belfry it will be mainly for spigot plugin development

What features will it have?

sick belfry Oct 12, 2021, 6:38 PM

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ocean quartz That is still so vague xD

yup

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maybe not framework

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but I want to try

sick belfry Oct 12, 2021, 6:39 PM

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sweet cipher What features will it have?

well, I'm still designing it but it will have some QoL features

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do not expect it in a few months tho

sweet cipher Oct 12, 2021, 6:40 PM

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Still gives no info lol

sick belfry Oct 12, 2021, 6:46 PM

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ye I prefer to shut atm, so no questions XD

sweet cipher Oct 12, 2021, 6:47 PM

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Lol

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Why say anything at all then?

sick belfry Oct 12, 2021, 6:48 PM

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I'm just a stupid person, dont expect any other response lol

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 6:57 PM

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hes making hypixel 2 obv

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 7:45 PM

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Not trying to start a fight but holy crap the performance difference between 1.8 and 1.17 is huge

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wha

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What?

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 7:46 PM

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Which one is more performant?

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1.8 or 1.17?

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 7:47 PM

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1.8

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1_8 I can run 3 clients at 60fps on my shitty pc, 1.17 WITH lithium I get like 5fps on 2 clients

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 7:47 PM

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Bad pc obv

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/s

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But ye

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 7:48 PM

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well yeah, it is

ocean quartz Oct 12, 2021, 7:48 PM

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One has tons of features, mobs, biomes, blocks, etc, the other has pvp and crybabies
So it's understandable the difference

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 7:48 PM

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But I still manage 60fps on 1.8

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Oh yeah sure

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1.17 is better but still

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I literally can't test on 1.17

steel heart Oct 12, 2021, 7:50 PM

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MockBukkit (:

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jk

obtuse gale Oct 12, 2021, 7:53 PM

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1.17 WITH lithium I get like 5fps on 2 clients
that sounds like a you problem? I can run two instances (with lithium and others) just fine, lol

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okay maybe not just fine, but it definitely does not struggle

prisma wave Oct 12, 2021, 7:54 PM

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ok but is your pc shit

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Mine is like 2012 budget amd cpu with no discrete gpu