dev-general

[half harness]

👀

[jovial warren]

https://wiki.vg/Protocol#Position

so, here, we have X, Y, and Z values again, but this time we're encoding them in to a single long, with the 26 left most bits containing the X value, then the 26 next bits containing the Z value, then the last 12 bits containing the Y value

so, let's get some values

that & 0x3FFFFFF is gonna do that clamping that we did before, but this time, we want the value to be a maximum of 26 bits, not a maximum of 4

and the & 0xFFF is going to do the same for the Y, but clamping to a maximum of 12 bits rather than 26 or 4

let's get ourselves an example, gimme a min

Original: 8111039, 217, 10505978
Original (bin): 11110111100001110111111, 11011001, 101000000100111011111010
Encoded: 520089561, bin: 11110111111111110111111011001

actually, that's wrong, I think it's converting to int here

[half harness]

o

[jovial warren]

Original: 982658, 733, 9799917
Original (bin): 11101111111010000010, 1011011101, 100101011000100011101101
Encoded: 270111014422237917, bin: 1110111111101000001000100101011000100011101101001011011101
```there we go

now, let's put our spaces in

11101111111010000010 00100101011000100011101101 001011011101

hmm

that still doesn't look right

actually, yes it does

it's just truncated again

lemme pad it so it's easier

[half harness]

pad?

[jovial warren]

add zeros on the left lol

00000011101111111010000010 00100101011000100011101101 001011011101

now, you see that broken down, can you pick out the original values in there?

if you can't, try dropping all of the zeros to the left on every value

11101111111010000010 100101011000100011101101 1011011101

what about now?

[half harness]

yes

since it's x z y?

🤔

[jovial warren]

yes

now, how tf did we do that? well, let's break it down

first, we know our values, we want our X value all the way over to the left

so let's do that

11101111111010000010 << 38 = 1110111111101000001000000000000000000000000000000000000000

why 38? because 64 - 26 = 38

[half harness]

whats 26?

[jovial warren]

26 is the amount of bits we want for X

[half harness]

oh

[jovial warren]

so we want X to only be the left most 26 bits

then, we can shift Z over by 12, because we want it to be the middle 26 bits, and then the Y is going in the right most 12 bits

let's do that

100101011000100011101101 << 12 = 100101011000100011101101000000000000

still with me?

[half harness]

yes

[jovial warren]

right, now let's do our OR trick to get that Z value in the encoded value

  1110111111101000001000000000000000000000000000000000000000
| 0000000000000000000000100101011000100011101101000000000000
------------------------------------------------------------
  1110111111101000001000100101011000100011101101000000000000

[half harness]

👀

[jovial warren]

you see how that Z value is now in there?

[half harness]

yes

[jovial warren]

and also, what you see is that we have 2 extra zeros in there as padding, because we want the 26 X, 26 Z, 12 Y for consistency

now, we can do that same trick to get our Y in there

[half harness]

is the padding required?

or does it not show a difference in the code

[jovial warren]

if you don't have those 2 zeros there, meaning you shifted wrong, then the encoding will be wrong

and we can see how it's wrong when we decode the value

[half harness]

o

[jovial warren]

let's shift by 2 extra to the left on the Z to get rid of those 2 zeros

  1110111111101000001000000000000000000000000000000000000000
| 0000000000000000000010010101100010001110110100000000000000
------------------------------------------------------------
  1110111111101000001010010101100010001110110100000000000000

now, let's decode that

let's shift right by 38 to extract that X that we encoded earlier

[dusty cypress]

Today

[jovial warren]

1110111111101000001010010101100010001110110100000000000000 >> 38 = 11101111111010000010

[quiet depot]

once glare refreshes the buyer list, you'll have access to #voteparty where you can ask your question

[dusty cypress]

thanks they are a helper french for ask with me ?

[jovial warren]

actually, the X is fine, let's try to get the Z out dkim

[quiet depot]

No sorry, we only do english in here

[half harness]

that's the middle value, right?

[jovial warren]

yeah

to get the Z value out, we need to shift left by 26 to drop the X, then shift right by 38 to drop the Y and all of the extra zeros we added from dropping the X

because 26 + 12 also = 38

1110111111101000001010010101100010001110110100000000000000 << 26 = 0110001000111011010000000000000000000000000000000000000000

[half harness]

then once you shift the zeroes get removed?

sihft right*

[jovial warren]

then let's right shift by 38: 0110001000111011010000000000000000000000000000000000000000 >> 38 = 01100010001110110100

actually, I'm losing track lol

I've done that wrong, lemme try again

[half harness]

oh

[jovial warren]

I forgot that the value wasn't originally 64 bits, lemme fix this

1110111111101000001010010101100010001110110100000000000000000000 << 26 = 1011000100011101101000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

then, let's shift that over by 38 now: 1011000100011101101000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 >> 38 = 10110001000111011010000000

that also doesn't look right though... hmm...

I think that's better maybe

yeah, you can see that now

it's off by quite a few bits

you get the idea

[half harness]

yes

and if it was smaller

how would you remove the 0?

since wouldn't it just move to the left

[jovial warren]

the point is that you should always be shifting by the same amounts

and it may pad, it may not

you need to keep consistency in the way you encode the value so that you keep consistency in the way it is decoded

so we always want to shift our Z over to the right by 12, because then when we shift it out, we will always get what we want

you following still?

[half harness]

mhm

[jovial warren]

and then, finally, back to our encoding, we want to put our Y in there

  1110111111101000001010010101100010001110110100000000000000
| 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001011011101
------------------------------------------------------------
  1110111111101000001010010101100010001110110100001011011101

[ocean quartz]

Dkim is a rubber duck

[jovial warren]

and there we go

[half harness]

[jovial warren]

now, you want me to walk you through how to decode that? or do you get the idea from how we did the last?

I mean, this is a bit different, since we need to drop part of the value from both sides

[half harness]

i think i get it, so for x you'd shift right to get rid of the right stuff, then I think it'd be the correct value?

[ocean quartz]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging

[jovial warren]

you'd shift right by 38 to get the X value out, yes

[half harness]

then for z you'd shift right a bit (i forgot the exact amount) to get rid of some of the right stuff, then shift left (and I think you can do it left to right, does it matter?)

and for x you can just use the & i think

[jovial warren]

so we would do 1110111111101000001010010101100010001110110100001011011101 >> 38 = 11101111111010000010

then, for our Z, I'm going to pad the left of that value with 6 zeros to make it exactly 64 bits, so I have less chance of fucking this up again lol

0000001110111111101000001010010101100010001110110100001011011101 << 26 = 1001010110001000111011010000101101110100000000000000000000000000

then, we need to get the Z back over to the right, so we shift right by 38, since we know we shifted left by 12 to get the Z in there, and we just shifted left by another 26, and 26 + 12 = 38

1001010110001000111011010000101101110100000000000000000000000000 >> 38 = 10010101100010001110110100

[half harness]

yep 😤

[jovial warren]

I think I missed something

oh yeah, ik what

I'm dumb, I need to push the values

AAAAAA

[half harness]

push?

[jovial warren]

this is why we leave the bitwise to the computers 😛

wait no, I didn't fuck up the left shift

anyway, you get the idea

a computer would do this fine

[half harness]

BardyOS 😌

[jovial warren]

lol

you can actually design your own encoding as well

you just need to know how big the value you want to encode to is and how far you can compact the values without losing too much detail

so, in this case, we know we want to encode to a 64 bit value, and we know that we can get away with only using 26 bits for the X and Z and 12 bits for the Y

now you should be able to work a bit better with bitwise

[half harness]

mhm :))

[jovial warren]

and hopefully I taught some of you other people in here something as well that you didn't know 🙂

[half harness]

who's lurking in here 🧐

[steel heart]

No

[unkempt tangle]

@prisma wave

[prisma wave]

thank you so much

that was really life changing

[steel heart]

Weeb

[humble silo]

lol thats a cool song

[obtuse gale]

TIL gson supports // end-of-line comments, /* */ block comments, and # EOL comments too

sweet

[worthy sun]

I was expecting a comment about the song

but I guess gson supporting end of line comments is equally important

[compact perch]

There is no time to wait! Ask your question @tardy geyser!

[quiet depot]

need help getting banned?

I can arrange that

done

no problemo

[worthy sun]

LMAO ty

[obtuse gale]

what

[quiet depot]

accidentally set the 24 hour delete thing .-.

[obtuse gale]

piggy why are you talking to yourself

[quiet depot]

yes

[ocean quartz]

@old wyvern Soooo! I got caching working 😮
First run over a minute resolving dependencies, second run cached few millis, change dependencies detects as cache breaking and reruns it again!

[worthy sun]

I am not sure what I was meant to be looking at

[steel heart]

Doesnt moshi support it also?

[obtuse gale]

idk

[ocean quartz]

Task runtime, cached vs uncached, plus changing configuration dependency is detected as needing to rerun the task instead of using the cache which would be wrong

[tired igloo]

Can anyone help with an issue I am having? I posted it in the #882530561141375026

[quiet depot]

sir this is dev general

[tired igloo]

I know, just desperate to get this sorted thats all. Sorry

[frail glade]

People just don't know what is what I suppose. Just had someone ping me in ACF Discord asking for VoteParty help, like, seriously dude?

[worthy sun]

ACF Discord

[prisma wave]

👀

[tired igloo]

its a dev channel so I thought I was ask for some dev help. Seems reasonable to me tbh

[worthy sun]

well you are going to have to open-source your said plugin

[prisma wave]

based

[worthy sun]

if you have the source, might as well hand that xD

otherwise we literally can not help you with the current info supplied

[steel heart]

Ye

Like we won’t steal it really

[worthy sun]

🤞

[steel heart]

🤨

[worthy sun]

Pinky promise

[prisma wave]

why tf are libraries so big man

[old wyvern]

ayyyyy!!!!

[prisma wave]

5.5MB just from kotlin, guice, adventure and ACF

[steel heart]

Fat

[prisma wave]

so annoying

[ocean quartz]

You know what can solve that?

[prisma wave]

and that's with minimizing

[old wyvern]

😌

[steel heart]

Slim-

[ocean quartz]

😌

[prisma wave]

unironically would consider it

[old wyvern]

less gooo

xD

[prisma wave]

smelly premium plugin guidelines though

i would need to provide download links for all of the jars

which is annoying

can u make slimjar emit a list of links

that i can turn into a website or something

[steel heart]

that’d be cool

[worthy sun]

isn't slim jar just install the libraries on runtime

[prisma wave]

yes

[worthy sun]

why would you need them to download it individually?

[old wyvern]

What? xD

[prisma wave]

because spigot is dumb

[ocean quartz]

Yugi, i wonder if we can make resolution faster
Trying to understand how it works right now, but i think running it parallel would speed it up a lot

[old wyvern]

Oh the library links?

[prisma wave]

yeah

[steel heart]

Premium resource policy

[worthy sun]

what

[old wyvern]

Yea, it generates a file with all the links

[prisma wave]

runtime downloading is allowed, as long as there's also a way of downloading the libraries without starting a server or something

it's so dumb

[worthy sun]

😕 What's the policy?

I think glare broke rule one?

[old wyvern]

inside the jar there should be a slimjar-resolutions.json in the latest version

That contains all the links

[prisma wave]

👀 ok

[ocean quartz]

Very advanced 😌

[worthy sun]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/guilds-30-sale.66176/

[old wyvern]

😌

[prisma wave]

i will probably try proguard or something first just cuz hosting a site with the links is effort

[worthy sun]

I don't see a way to donwload from here

[steel heart]

slimejar is really thriving, pog (:

[prisma wave]

i dont think guilds is using runtime stuff anymore

[worthy sun]

Its thriving as its the only effective way to bypass damn issues

[prisma wave]

or maybe it is

[old wyvern]

Why does it not let me play?!! 😔

[steel heart]

So you’re taking that path...

[prisma wave]

oh ok it is

[prisma wave]

it's open source

[worthy sun]

It is

[prisma wave]

but proguard is good at minifying

better than shadow

[frail glade]

I don't think they've ever enforced that. I've never seen a plugin provide it.

[prisma wave]

oh lol

[frail glade]

Technically I do provide it, cause it's open source.

[prisma wave]

dumb spigot

[old wyvern]

They replied with that once to someone glare

[prisma wave]

yeah

[old wyvern]

I forgot who that was

someone from here

[prisma wave]

smh

[steel heart]

Glare is yours premium also?

[ocean quartz]

Not like server admins would ever complain anyways, they don't even know what's happening, they'll just see an error and post it on your reviews

[prisma wave]

🥲

[frail glade]

I get stacktrace reviews removed all the time.

[prisma wave]

some people

0 brain cells

[old wyvern]

Matt

[worthy sun]

you can';t slimjar kotlin

if you are using kotlin before you can slimjar

[prisma wave]

?

[old wyvern]

you can

[prisma wave]

oh

yeah

you can, with a few tricks

[worthy sun]

please show me those tricks,

[prisma wave]

easiest way is just making ur main class in java

download kotlin

then delegate

[worthy sun]

but then u have to do annoying compileJava

[prisma wave]

meh

[steel heart]

It’s just one

[worthy sun]

imagine just excluding ArrayList function but including everything else

[prisma wave]

you can also trick the compiler into not generating any Intrinsics calls but that's a lot trickier

[old wyvern]

@ocean quartz does warzone require us to search for party before starting?

Oh wait nvm

[ocean quartz]

Nah, you can go solo on trios, you can set it to fill which will give you a party or not

[old wyvern]

Found it

[frail glade]

Or just be patient and wait the 10 seconds it takes to compile the jar smh

[old wyvern]

yea, I was looking for a "Play" button xD

Didnt realize the diff gamemode names were there

[ocean quartz]

Well Kotlin will be just Java when compiled, as long as you're not accessing the STD before downloading, you're fine

[prisma wave]

easier said than done

[worthy sun]

why did they call it std?

[ocean quartz]

Standard

[steel heart]

Why not

[worthy sun]

its on purpose

[old wyvern]

Because STD

🌞

[frail glade]

Dude in front of me is playing Cool Math Games.

[worthy sun]

its not blocked?

I rate Run 4

[frail glade]

Why would it be blocked?

[worthy sun]

because its cool maths duh

[frail glade]

This isn't middle school

[worthy sun]

they don't want you getting too smart

nah, I just thought they had a list of websites to block

some universities are trying to monitor student connections at home

and checking what websites they access and attention on uni allowed websites

[old wyvern]

At home? At that point thats stalking mate

[worthy sun]

using software and blocking websites which aren't allowed during class times

[old wyvern]

We have a few restrictions at uni, but only when on their WiFi

[ocean quartz]

In my highschool my programming teacher was the one that took care of the school's wifi security and stuff
We were in constant battle between us finding ways to access blocked website and the teacher blocking the websites we used to unblock them lmao

[steel heart]

Lmao

[half harness]

🤢 not worth it

since my main class is like the hub of my plugin

xD

|| even though I dont think its supposed to 🤷, rip SRP ||

[old wyvern]

uh matt

[obtuse gale]

what da dog doin

[ocean quartz]

Yeah?

[old wyvern]

how do I increase the fov?

This feels so clustrophobic

[onyx loom]

uninstall

[ocean quartz]

Kotlin's new measureTimedValue is so useful holy

val (value, time) = measureTimedValue {
  // Do something that returns a value
}
println("Took $time to get $value")

[ocean quartz]

Actually not sure, it's probably in the gameplay menu? I play on ps4

[prisma wave]

WHY CANT I PATTERN MATCH RESULT

[old wyvern]

ah rip

I cant find anything in the graphics tab

And wow

First game thats runs fine with raytracing on

But tbh I not really sure if its doing anything

[half harness]

😮

[ocean quartz]

I wonder if we can speed this up https://paste.helpch.at/quwiwajila.css

[old wyvern]

Gradle currently doesnt expose those urls so Im not really sure

The issue is us resolving it ourselves

[ocean quartz]

Yeah, hmm let me see what i can do

[onyx loom]

idk if u found it yet, but in general

now, uninstall the game

[old wyvern]

ahhhh

thanks dude

Much better

[onyx loom]

👍

[wind patio]

which java version supports string interpolation?

[ocean quartz]

None

[old wyvern]

😌

[ocean quartz]

Yugi!

Old method: https://paste.helpch.at/bohoyiniki.css
Coroutines: https://paste.helpch.at/nofoqazije.css

I feel like it could still be improved somehow

[old wyvern]

The coroutines one seems to be slower somehow 👀

oh wait no

They are parallel

[ocean quartz]

Each resolution time is incrementing but overall time was around 20s faster

[old wyvern]

Does each coroutine have its own resolver?

[ocean quartz]

Same resolver

Does it need its own? ;o

[wind patio]

ah, right, mixed it up with kotlin lol

[old wyvern]

Dont think so, might want to make sure that the internal map is a concurrent hash map tho

[ocean quartz]

Seems to be

[old wyvern]

Ah alrighty

Not sure why each individually take longer tho

Some of them seem to say it took 26s on the second one

Is that inclusive of their transitive dependencies?

[ocean quartz]

Uh, idk, basically i took the same thing you had but replaced parallelStream with map async then map await

[prisma wave]

is this not something more suited for parallel streams?

[ocean quartz]

Parallelstream was 20s slower

[prisma wave]

💀

shadow is actually killing me

it's minimising classes that are CLEARLY in use

for no reason

[half harness]

lol

slimjar 😌

[prisma wave]

WTF

i remove minimize() and it's still not present

???

[half harness]

xD

[ocean quartz]

Minimize always has issues, specially when using guice

[prisma wave]

yeah :/

there's a pretty clear graph though

oh

ufck

fuck

i had a java file in the kotlin sourceset

💀

[unkempt tangle]

Senpai

[old wyvern]

reverse Android move right here

[prisma wave]

🥴

[wind patio]

Cannot use connection to Gradle distribution 'https://services.gradle.org/distributions/gradle-7.0-bin.zip' as it has been stopped.

😩

any quick way to update gradle to 7.0?

IntelliJ won't auto-update

[obtuse gale]

Do you have it installed?

[wind patio]

ugh, I think I fixed the problem

IntelliJ was just being janky

[empty flint]

What kind of job could a BungeeCord plugin have, other than facilitate communication between the different Bukkit plugins on the server nodes and maybe data consolidation in one place?

Since the player doesn't interact with the plugin directly, there isn't really much to delegate to it, right?

Compared to Spigot plugins which handle Events, Commands etc etc

[wind patio]

it's not really a plugin though, is it

[half harness]

it is

[wind patio]

couldn't it be called more of a 'server type' rather than a 'plugin'

[half harness]

wdym?

[wind patio]

same as Spigot/Craftbukkit

[half harness]

a plugin isn't a server software

[wind patio]

though it doesn't really do anything with the minecraft code itself

[empty flint]

Sure it is. Take a look at net.md_5.bungee.api.plugin.Plugin

[half harness]

plugin = adds onto software

the term plugin isn't spigot/minecraft specific

[empty flint]

The term plugin isn't exclusive to Minecraft. It's a general term for software that can be 'plugged in' to existing software and add functionality to it.

[wind patio]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/about-bungeecord/

[half harness]

yes

[wind patio]

I suppose, yeah.

[empty flint]

BungeeCord and a BungeeCord Plugin are two different things, not sure what you want to show us with this link.

That's like saying Spigot Plugins aren't really a thing because there are Spigot servers.

[wind patio]

ah, I didn't see you specified the question about the plugin itself

my fault

[prisma wave]

I'm becoming a wordpress plugin developer now

Pays better

[half harness]

what lang does it use?

[empty flint]

Right, so back to my question though: What's the purpose of BungeeCord Plugins that are specific to Bungee and not Spigot?

[wind patio]

Skript, obv
More versalite language out there

[prisma wave]

PHP 🥶

[wind patio]

I suppose they interact better with the network? Though they are only one node related, so I'm not sure

[prisma wave]

do not

Don't even attempt to defend PHP

[half harness]

either

• plugin communication/sync, ex: luckperms
• single bungeecord plugin and config instead of one on each server, and uses packets (unless the bungee api has built in stuff for it, which it probably does), ex: venturechat
• idk

[steel heart]

its the programmers fault!

[prisma wave]

dkim moment

[empty flint]

Thanks!

[wind patio]

Well, bungee plugins will most likely work with part or the entire network and only need to be installed in the bungee directory, spigot plugins need to be installed in every spigot directory if you wanted to run a specific spigot plugin on all servers

[half harness]

oh also one more reason (although it sorta merges with the second and first):
Keeps everything in one spot

• configs
• if you use jda then only 1 bot instance per bungee
• 1 jar
• etc

[empty flint]

hm makes perfect sense, yeah

[obtuse gale]

The most common ones probably are chat, moderation and permission plugins, but there's just about anything too, mailing systems, friends etc

[empty flint]

does bungee include the spigot-api? can bukkit specific methods and classes be used if I don't package the api in the jar?

[obtuse gale]

No

[half harness]

no

[wind patio]

they are two different apis

[half harness]

you can use packets tho

altho idk if theres a lib for that

[obtuse gale]

Protocolize

[empty flint]

I know that but spigot-api includes the ChatColor api for example...

so I thought maybe there was more shared stufff

[obtuse gale]

Not really

The reason Spigot API uses Bungee Chat API is because md5 is lazy fuck

I mean it makes sense, he only needs to write it once

[empty flint]

Understandable

Go on...

[obtuse gale]

No

Lmao

[prisma wave]

💀

[ocean quartz]

Gradle detected a problem with the following location: 'T:\Projects\main-contributions\slimjar\testing\build\resources\main'. Reason: Task ':testing:shadowJar' uses this output of task ':testing:slimJar' without declaring an explicit or implicit dependency. This can lead to incorrect results being produced, depending on what order the tasks are executed. Please refer to https://docs.gradle.org/7.1.1/userguide/validation_problems.html#implicit_dependency for more details about this problem.
💀

[prisma wave]

gradle this, gradle that, what happened to good old "add to build path" in eclipse!

[surreal quarry]

🥲

[onyx loom]

the trickiest of them all

[surreal quarry]

hes from dev den. im not even active there idk why he thought dming me would get him the answers he needs about javascript lmao

[sly sonnet]

teach him the if statement

[onyx loom]

when {} 😄

[surreal quarry]

else(false) {
  // runs code
}```

if {/*() -> Boolean*/} (/*method reference*/)
else (false) { /*() -> Unit*/ }```

[prisma wave]

funny you should mention that

That's actually a thing in haskell kind of

[surreal quarry]

actually lmao

[prisma wave]

mhm

Well kind of

[ocean quartz]

while (condition) {
  // if is true here
  break
}

[prisma wave]

Because if expressions have to have an else branch there's when for side effects with conditions

when (input == "hello") (putStrLn "hello there")

[surreal quarry]

what a good language

[prisma wave]

indeed

It does make sense

Kinda

when only works with monads

if is more general but needs an else

[sly sonnet]

isn't when like a kotlin thing?

[ocean quartz]

@old wyvern Is the preresolved needed?

[wind patio]

can I stream map from List<String> a method like PlaceholderAPI#setPlaceholders?

[onyx loom]

yea

[wind patio]

                lore = lore.stream().map(str -> PlaceholderAPI.setPlaceholders(p, str))
                        .collect(Collectors.toList());

correct?

[sly sonnet]

try it

[obtuse gale]

Looks good

[onyx loom]

looks good to me

[sly sonnet]

looks good

[obtuse gale]

Lmao

[wind patio]

lol

[sly sonnet]

Lmao

[old wyvern]

wdym?

oh that

its to make sure its incremental when possible

So if any old resolutions are available, it will use that

[ocean quartz]

Hmm, it's currently causing some issues, it works for adding to it, but not removing from it

[old wyvern]

oh

[ocean quartz]

Should I remove that or add an option to remove from as well?

[old wyvern]

Removing that might cause it to reresolve dependencies

[ocean quartz]

Hmm okok, let me see if i can add check to remove from as well

Actually does it really matter?
I mean it's just resolution, what slimjar checks is the main one from slimjar.json right?

[old wyvern]

It uses this so it doesnt have to resolve at runtime

Removing the precompiled map will just cause a longer compile time

No difference at runtime

[ocean quartz]

But like, let's say it doesn't have a dependency in slimjar.json but does in the slimjar-resolutions.json would it ignore it?

[old wyvern]

Yea, it would just ignore it

[ocean quartz]

Ah so removing actually doesn't matter much

[old wyvern]

yea, just that redundant data would remain

[ocean quartz]

Okok

It's compiling much faster now

[old wyvern]

Awesome!

[ocean quartz]

[Clean compile]
1.3.0: 1m 2s
1.3.1: 23s

[Add 1 dependency]
1.3.0: - # Same as clean
1.3.1: 3s

[Remove 1 dependency]
1.3.0: - # Same as clean
1.3.1: 3s

[No dependency change]
1.3.0: - # Same as clean
1.3.1: UP-TO-DATE 5ms

😌

[half harness]

😌

is it released yet? or still in dev

[ocean quartz]

Dev

[old wyvern]

🔥

[obtuse gale]

Matt I need of your weeb expertise

[ocean quartz]

👀

Professional weeb developer here

[obtuse gale]

yes hi

I uh

what's the name of

fuck

[prisma wave]

ok

[obtuse gale]

have you watched mekakucity actors?

[ocean quartz]

I have not ;o

[obtuse gale]

oh damn

well this is embarrassing

[ocean quartz]

Why? xD
Is it good?

Looks very similar to Durarara

[obtuse gale]

idk what that is lmao

[ocean quartz]

Seems to be like a slice of life comedy

[obtuse gale]

I watched it a really long time ago and I don't remember anything lmao but a few songs
and I wanted to know if you watched it because [REDACTED]

[steel heart]

emilyy weeb yay

[obtuse gale]

ew no fuck off

[steel heart]

😔

Matt we need to turn emily into a weeb

[ocean quartz]

Yeah sorry never heard of it ;x
I tend to lean more towards dark anime

[old wyvern]

Emily moved to china?

🌞

[old wyvern]

bro aot s4

wtf happened

eren

[obtuse gale]

lmao

\🌞

[ocean quartz]

No one knows, the ending was so confusing 😩

[old wyvern]

I havent reached the ending, I was watching s3

but someone spoiled that eren becomes the villain in s4

[steel heart]

yeah Yugi

its controversial

however apparently the author is gonna make an alt ending

[old wyvern]

That seems so weird tho

He wanted to kill the titans

Why would he join them?

[steel heart]

Yeah

[ocean quartz]

Oh boy, you'll see later how it ends 👀

[old wyvern]

😣

[steel heart]

Some people love it, the entire twist

Tho personally I despise it

also watched in dubbed so idk if my opinion counts but myes

[old wyvern]

I saw a clip on yt where he says he forgives reiner because they are similar and then proceeds to kill him

[steel heart]

ye

lol

[old wyvern]

Or atleast I think reiner died

It doesnt show him eating reiner

so not sure

I think titan shifters cant* die from normal injury or something (?)

[steel heart]

idk

they probably can

like uh

rayna or what he's called

almost died from those rocket spears

but he was able to transfer his consciousness

[ocean quartz]

https://github.com/slimjar/slimjar/pull/56 😌

[steel heart]

[old wyvern]

😮 🔥

[ocean quartz]

Still getting this error though, gonna see if i can fix

Extension with name 'slimjar' does not exist. Currently registered extension names

[steel heart]

yugi room 1

😄

talk with famous slime guy

oh nvm

[jovial warren]

omg I just read the changelog for Kotlin 1.5.30

https://kotlinlang.org/docs/whatsnew1530.html#instantiation-of-annotation-classes POG

this is so fucking useful when working with something like Guice, where you need to create an instance of an annotation to specify parameters to look for with that annotation

holy shit that's a big pog

or at least, it is for me lol

wtf

https://kotlinlang.org/docs/whatsnew1530.html#improved-nullability-annotation-support-configuration

[ocean quartz]

Lmao

[jovial warren]

that is a fucking huge pog

https://kotlinlang.org/docs/whatsnew1530.html#improvements-to-type-inference-for-recursive-generic-types this looks really nice too

that second one means you can tell the compiler about nullability annotations so it can shut the fuck up and stop whining at you for platform types when there's clear nullability info

[ocean quartz]

Also yesterday i saw this, an annotation annotating itself

https://c.tenor.com/Rw4DGesWuooAAAAd/trash-paradox.gif

couldn't find a better gif, so get the one with the trashcans

[obtuse gale]

lol

[empty flint]

Hm another question that might be dumb. I don't think this is possible but I've been wrong before.
I noticed that net.md_5.bungee.api.plugin.Plugin and org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPlugin share some methods. Is there a way to declare an interface and have a wrapper class for either of those Plugins, such that the wrapper class exposes those methods with the same signature?

The goal is to make a class that takes either the bungee Plugin or the JavaPlugin, as if they had a shared Super class, so that I can call the getDataFolder(), getLogger() etc methods without casting to the appropriate plugin

[obtuse gale]

you can actually yes, just make the plugins extending JavaPlugin/(bungee)Plugin also implement that other class, even if you don't implement the methods yourself, the abstract classes will

it's p cool

[empty flint]

not sure I understand, do you mean I can make a plugin like so: class MyPlugin: JavaPlugin, Plugin {...} and the getDataFolder() method will work both in Spigot and in Bungee?

But that would generally be a bad idea though. I would have to package both APIs into the plugin instead of just having them compiled and provided by the server they run on at runtime

hmm

[obtuse gale]

what?

interface CommonPlugin {  // in a common module or smth
  File getDataFolder();
}
// bukkit, will work just fine
class BukkitPlugin extends JavaPlugin implements CommonPlugin {
// bungee, will work just fine
class BungeePlugin extends Plugin implements CommonPlugin {

although I'd be extremely careful though

any binary incompatible changes and the class will fail to load

[weak shell]

How can I implement multiple bukkit runnables with a good time complexity?

Wait maybe wrong channel

[obtuse gale]

indeed

this is the channel you get trolled for asking for help

[weak shell]

say less

do i go to support?

[obtuse gale]

#development

[weak shell]

thanks

[empty flint]

Ooooooh... that actually makes sense, thanks!

[gray elk]

@obtuse gale add me to discuss about your request

[wind patio]

am I doing this right or I'm just clueless with paper api

[obtuse gale]

what on earth

[wind patio]

yeah well I have no idea how components work lmao

[obtuse gale]

I mean

getLore returns a list of strings

not of components

[wind patio]

it's not an ItemStack

that's a custom method

for, uh, well, custom items

[obtuse gale]

then what does getLore return?

[wind patio]

List<Component>

basically this

                List<Component> lore = CI_LORE.stream().map(this::format)
                        .map(Component::text)
                        .collect(Collectors.toList());

[obtuse gale]

take a look into the Component#replaceText method and the TextReplacementConfig (Builder) interface;

[brazen narwhal]

wow look you asked the same thing in paper

[obtuse gale]

wowzas

[wind patio]

ono is that illegal

discord police

😩

[brazen narwhal]

why not ask in #720374890472931328 while youre at it

[wind patio]

why not just shut up lmao

[obtuse gale]

#developer-chat

[wind patio]

Component doesn't have .replaceText

not in 1.16.5 at least

[obtuse gale]

it sure does

[wind patio]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[obtuse gale]

it's not static

[wind patio]

ah

yeah, alright, I see.

[obtuse gale]

Class#method usually denotes an instance method, Class.method a static one

[wind patio]

I see.

also, Records, yay or nay

[prisma wave]

yay

[wind patio]

any highlights?

[prisma wave]

uh

they... exist?

[wind patio]

pog

let's go

[obtuse gale]

I wouldn't really rely on that soft warning

it's a bit too invasive IMO, I have it disabled

[prisma wave]

yeah

[wind patio]

so, Record is basically a Class with less hassle

[obtuse gale]

eh

[prisma wave]

just because something can be a record, doesn't mean it should be

[obtuse gale]

a record is meant to be an "immutable data carrier"

[wind patio]

how could you

IntelliJ says, IntelliJ knows

[obtuse gale]

For instance, something like a GameProfile seems ideal for a record, UUID, String, and that's it

but that warning is too aggressive

[wind patio]

well, then, a simple class is better off a record, whereas a more complicated one is better off as a class

[prisma wave]

@ocean quartz is there a way of "undoing" a GuiItem

[obtuse gale]

I tend to use records a lot when it comes to config entries, e.g.
public record ConfigCommandEntry(String command, long delay, RunAs runAs, boolean firstJoinOnly)
public record FilterEntry(Pattern pattern, String replacement)
things I can (de)serialize with ease and it just makes sense for its purpose

[obtuse gale]

no

[prisma wave]

by that i mean removing the nbt tag so that they can be combined with normal types

i guess i can just do it myself

but ew

[ocean quartz]

I guess having a strip method wouldn't hurt

[prisma wave]

you could have something like GuiItem#getNormalItem

[ocean quartz]

Yeah, i can add that

[prisma wave]

👌

[wind patio]

so a record is itself a constructor or it just, kinda, auto-generates a constructor with provided params?

since a record can also contain other constructors

[ocean quartz]

Records are basically classes, with fields, constructor, getters, setters, to string, and equals

[obtuse gale]

and hashCode too, very important

[ocean quartz]

Oh yeah and that

[prisma wave]

and pattern matching soon

[wind patio]

I suppose by default hashcode will differ if any values between objects/records are different
Ima just go to sleep, my brain is fried

[prisma wave]

well yeah

thats the point lol

[obtuse gale]

yeah lol

[wind patio]

waking up in 6 hours for a lecture, woohoo

goodbye and have a nice evening

[prisma wave]

goodbye

[obtuse gale]

@prisma wave

records are value based classes right?

or rather, meant to

lol

[prisma wave]

how do u mean

[obtuse gale]

like

kinda like Optional for instance

[prisma wave]

oh

i guess so

[obtuse gale]

final, immutable, equals and hashCode etc depend on the value

[prisma wave]

idk the formal definition though

[obtuse gale]

== is a no go etc

[prisma wave]

yeah

makes sense at least

[obtuse gale]

e

[steel heart]

Ye they’re value based

[ocean quartz]

JapaneseDate

[obtuse gale]

ching chong

[prisma wave]

ThaiBuddistDate

underrated class

[ocean quartz]

Wtf is Minguo

[obtuse gale]

you don't know?

[ocean quartz]

Republic of China calendar
😬

[obtuse gale]

this sounds so oddly out of this world lmao

[prisma wave]

republic of china = taiwan

i think

am i allowed to say that

idk

[obtuse gale]

yeah

This calendar system is primarily used in the Republic of China, often known as Taiwan

[steel heart]

Sort of correct ye

[prisma wave]

ok cool

[ocean quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-winnie-the-pooh-winnie-gif-5922304

[prisma wave]

🥶

[obtuse gale]

is a String value based?

it's not annotated as such lol

[steel heart]

Pretty sure it is

Or like to some extent?

[obtuse gale]

idk

https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/java/lang/doc-files/ValueBased.html

[steel heart]

Using == is unsafe right on them

[obtuse gale]

the factory methods thing wouldn't fit in a record or a string

[prisma wave]

is this someone important

[obtuse gale]

although that can be made for record

[prisma wave]

kyori dev?

[obtuse gale]

yes

my clone

[steel heart]

Lmao

[obtuse gale]

no

[prisma wave]

sad

[obtuse gale]

an active member of the community tho

why

[prisma wave]

ok

cool

[obtuse gale]

why

[prisma wave]

they joined devden

[obtuse gale]

ah yes

she's my friend

[prisma wave]

i want to know if i should get out the red carpet or not

[ocean quartz]

It's an impostor!

[steel heart]

We have two emils now

[forest pecan]

@serene cave @mellow valley

[prisma wave]

corporate wants you to spot the difference between these 2 images

[steel heart]

🥲

[obtuse gale]

lol

[ocean quartz]

Also while yall are here, how does noon uk time sound for end of voting and beginning of the contest tomorrow?

[prisma wave]

sure

[obtuse gale]

sure

[prisma wave]

i am glad it's using uk time

good to finally get some respect

[ocean quartz]

Tbh using that because it's same as here, lisbon time 🥲

[prisma wave]

GAAAAAA

[static zealot]

@boreal needle I found a new name for you Cryystal__

[obtuse gale]

As much as I love Crystal as a name, hell I'd name my own daughter Crystal, it sounds like a hooker's name

[eternal compass]

why do you think blitz selected it for lucyy?

[obtuse gale]

'cause she a hoe

[static zealot]

if you don't like that, you can use Q3J5eXN0YWxfXw==. It is the base64 version.

[obtuse gale]

based

[eternal compass]

64d

[static zealot]

oh and also someone recommended: H3NT4I_QU33N or ✿Sniper_Little_Bunny✿. I like the base64 one more but you can chose

[forest pecan]

@prisma wave

is that good enough for the photo album

[prisma wave]

🥴

[forest pecan]

Lol

[prisma wave]

I believe so

[prisma wave]

It really does

[obtuse gale]

im tryna make a placeholder but how do you get the players name that it is showing to

[brazen narwhal]

what is devden

[static zealot]

its the heaven. but on earth.

[obtuse gale]

ikr!!!

[static zealot]

or the hell. depending who you ask

[obtuse gale]

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks that

[prisma wave]

based and good

[brazen narwhal]

how do i join it

[obtuse gale]

#development for support btw

[static zealot]

you pay a fee

[obtuse gale]

you'll get trolled in this channel lol

[static zealot]

of 3 chicken legs

[obtuse gale]

bump

[prisma wave]

google it

[static zealot]

when you're that cool that your discord server shows up in google search?

[pseudo marsh]

ty

sorry for the inconvenience

[brazen narwhal]

https://www.facebook.com/TheDevDen/ first result

[static zealot]

I'm pretty sure I'm not in the dev den anymore. I would've sent an invite.

@prisma wave mind dm advertising? in my dms of course.

[eternal compass]

blitz

you buffoon

[static zealot]

oh

[prisma wave]

🥴

[obtuse gale]

lol

[prisma wave]

That's the one!

[static zealot]

ohhh. I left the brister mitten discord

not dev den

[prisma wave]

dead server

[static zealot]

is it?

no one buying private mines?

[prisma osprey]

What is block metadata in 1.8? Btw I'm implementing it from scratch just for fun 🙂

[obtuse gale]

oh my

Alex

[prisma wave]

?

[obtuse gale]

I got a notification

[prisma wave]

Oh yes

😌

[obtuse gale]

lmao

[eternal compass]

👀

[static zealot]

Alex. Imagine calling him by his real name. who does that.

[prisma wave]

Imagine

[eternal compass]

Alex, can I get the link again?

I joined it, but idk the link

[obtuse gale]

because my phone said "Alex ..." lmao

[prisma wave]

Well it USED TO BE pinned

but fascist staff removed it

[eternal compass]

lmao

[static zealot]

what used to be pinned?

I can repin

[prisma wave]

The best of helpchat link

[static zealot]

oh

glare said is fine tho.

why did they take it down?

[eternal compass]

my screenshot got into Best of Helpchat 😌

[static zealot]

here. @eternal compass

[onyx loom]

probably cube didnt agree 🥶

[eternal compass]

I found it

[prisma wave]

.

[brazen narwhal]

<t:1630624800:f>

wacky

[prisma wave]

Ok

[static zealot]

I think he took simon down as well. but simon always wins.

[prisma wave]

Literally fascism

[eternal compass]

simon deez nuts

[onyx loom]

simon is there

[prisma wave]

top 10 worst dictators in history

[eternal compass]

;p

[prisma wave]

Only bc blitz repinned

[static zealot]

had to put him back. he was taken down as well

[onyx loom]

oh i see

[eternal compass]

blitz will get that reply forever

to anything

I have decided

[static zealot]

I actually love that video.

whenever I'm bored or having a bad day I just watch it on repeat and everything gets better

yugi, I probably thanked you 20 times already but thank you once again

[static zealot]

decided deez nuts?

[eternal compass]

decided deez nuts.

[static zealot]

deez nuts deez nuts?

[eternal compass]

deez nuts deez nuts deez nuts.

[static zealot]

this is for you my friend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYUvgxwuJbA

how dietz nuts taste?

[eternal compass]

taste deez nuts

wait...

[static zealot]

dietz nuts*

grab a handful of dietz nuts

[half harness]

https://i.imgur.com/xtu0Wg1.png I keep forgetting to bump the version 😩

[obtuse gale]

Pepega

[eternal compass]

isn't that a better discord thing?

the twitch emotes mod

👀

[half harness]

no

[eternal compass]

oh

hm

[half harness]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[eternal compass]

also; can someone tell me if https://github.com/Fredthedoggy/FrogPanel makes any sense to someone who has enough technical skills to install pterodactyl, but not much else?

[obtuse gale]

Canonical constructor access level cannot be more restrictive than the record access level ('public')
thanks java I hate this

[rotund egret]

As someone that pretty much fits that description, it makes sense to me

[eternal compass]

Thanks lol

[sly sonnet]

Good Morning people. At this point i don't know what to do because IntelIJ just randomly forgot my classes exist even though they are in place.

[cinder flare]

psst, you have a few misspellings and weird capitalizations in the warning section under Manual installation

[sly sonnet]

Like when i call a constructor, it shows that such thing does not exist (even though it clearly does)

[cinder flare]

Invalidate Caches and Restart!

[sly sonnet]

who dat

[rotund egret]

Invalidate Restart and Cache

[sly sonnet]

ah ok

thanks guys!

[rotund egret]

It's under the File Tab

[cinder flare]

https://i.imgur.com/rGlxk3n.png

setting up Rider, funny little warning for IdeaVim

[steel heart]

😞

[steel heart]

Lol fr

[potent nest]

I was confused by that restriction too first, but records are meant to be transparent data carriers, so it also makes sense at some point

also I'm pretty sure that will help with pattern matching

[prisma wave]

Yeah they're adding pattern matching for records soon

Which is poggers

[wind patio]

huh

so records can't use regex or what

[prisma wave]

nah a different type of pattern matching

I remember when I said something like that and then sxtanna called me an idiot

good old days

Anyway yeah

Language pattern matching is a way of testing the structure of your data

What languages are you familiar with?

ok I don't care

Kotlin has some rudimentary pattern matching

Python is actually pretty good since 3.10

But functional languages do it best

x, y = get_some_list()

I think that's how it works

x is the first element, y is the 2nd element

[potent nest]

welp it will take a while, it's proposed as (first) preview in Java 18

I can't wait that long!

[steel heart]

yeah won’t u be able to do something like
record Blah(int x){}

then
if (something instanceof Blah(x)) {

}

[eternal compass]

Not surprised lol

Will fix

[wintry crag]

Hello ! I wanted to Install Forge 1.16.5 For Minecraft Mods and this Occured, I tryed for Days and searched for Videos & Tutorials. Please Help me ! When I try Download it it's says this Error Message ( I can show The Message on Private Messages )

[jovial warren]

gonna try starting work on my own personal site, just deciding what to write it in

I was thinking maybe Nuxt/Vue, and Ktor for anything backend

[potent nest]

yeah, though the "real" use case is records mixed with sealed interfaces, so you can write something like

sealed interface Expr {
  record UnaryMinus(int value) { }
  record Addition(int left, int right) { }
  // ...
}
Expr expression = ...;
int result = switch(expression) {
  case UnaryMinus(int value) -> -value;
  case Addition(int left, int right) -> left + right;
  // ...

[steel heart]

Oo

I love

It

[potent nest]

well I forgot the implements for the records but you know what I mean

[steel heart]

Yeah, Java’s getting a really glow up here

[jovial warren]

wait... Java's getting sealed interfaces now?

woohoo!

[steel heart]

We have to celebrate

[jovial warren]

damn, JetBrains smart

[steel heart]

[jovial warren]

those sealed interfaces definitely came from Kotlin, I swear lol

[potent nest]

sealed interfaces are a pretty old concept

[jovial warren]

yeah true

[potent nest]

and it's planned for a few years now

[jovial warren]

yeah

[prisma wave]

Java has had them planned before kotlin

The jep has been around for ages

For what it's worth

[jovial warren]

just Oracle probably took like 6 years to actually do something lol

[prisma wave]

well maybe

Ok it's 2 years old

java 16

I guess you could argue that maybe kotlin had the idea first, but you can't do them without support on the jvm

[potent nest]

the JEP is 2 years old, means they likely had a working prototype at that point already

[prisma wave]

indeed

but wasn't java still on its much slower versioning cycle back then?

[potent nest]

the new cycle started with java 9, means around 4 years ago

[steel heart]

Good this guy in spigotmc discord keeps just ranting about static being the perfect use case

https://github.com/TheViperShow/FriendlyServer/blob/master/src/main/java/studio/thevipershow/friendlyserver/data/DamageAllowData.java the class

[potent nest]

if my math is correct

[ocean quartz]

Static is always the perfect use case 😀

[steel heart]

Now die

[prisma wave]

static good, static state bad

[steel heart]

Yes

[obtuse gale]

Hye babe

[steel heart]

Exactly

[prisma wave]

hello there

[obtuse gale]

Hru?

[prisma wave]

ok

Wbu

[obtuse gale]

Not bad, how is ur day

[prisma wave]

it is good

I am in town and I have just had a burger

it was nice

[obtuse gale]

USA?

Wait... Ntherland?

[prisma wave]

No sir

England

[static zealot]

the great united kingdom

of the british empire

[obtuse gale]

Imagine British go to sea again

[ocean quartz]

Bri'ish empoire

[obtuse gale]

Do you wont some tea mate?

[jovial warren]

lol

[steel heart]

Skedule

Skool

[jovial warren]

enough with these lame British stereotypes

[obtuse gale]

Bloody hell?

[static zealot]

man. idk why ya'll hate UK. They are the country to create the most independence days for other countries.

[steel heart]

Wankaaa

[obtuse gale]

I love bri'ish

My country learn english from UK book

[jovial warren]

yeah because we fucking colonised everyone and then they decided to fuck us and go alone lol

[prisma wave]

Yeah! We're really generous

[obtuse gale]

I mean.. our english text book was from British

[jovial warren]

"from British"

[ocean quartz]

Actually the British way is "shedule", "skedule" is american

[obtuse gale]

I mean Great Britain

Wait

I mean United Kingdom

[jovial warren]

I mean, we use either

[obtuse gale]

fuck.. they have many nick name

[prisma wave]

I will kill anyone that says shedule

[ocean quartz]

Yeah but talking about originally

[static zealot]

yeah. they really fucked you. they fucked you so hard.

[obtuse gale]

Bloody mary... for god sake

[jovial warren]

stfu

[static zealot]

they penetrated you deep

[obtuse gale]

Don't mad my friend

[static zealot]

xD

[prisma wave]

so true

[obtuse gale]

I love England

[remote goblet]

[obtuse gale]

I mean British

Wait.. Scotland

[jovial warren]

https://tenor.com/uhfw.gif

[remote goblet]

I hate all countries, we should just kill everyone

[prisma wave]

silence overwatch player

[remote goblet]

Man

you play more overwatch than i did

[ocean quartz]

Including ourselves!!

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I know

Problem?

[obtuse gale]

I hate when calling UK like... British... Britain, United Kingdom, & etc name

[remote goblet]

I only recently installed it back after the whole lawsuit about the fact they abuse women at actiblizzard

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THE SUN NEVER SETS

[obtuse gale]

How about Scotland?

[remote goblet]

which im still iffy on

So bite me

[prisma wave]

based?

[obtuse gale]

You guys ever heard of scottish?

[remote goblet]

?

yes

[remote goblet]

especially including ourselves

[obtuse gale]

Guys