dev-general

[wind patio]

Skript bad.
See you tomorrow for another based take.

[sweet cipher]

That's wrong

You can't prove it's bad

[steel heart]

We can prove it’s not good

[sweet cipher]

No you can't

[steel heart]

Yes you can

[sweet cipher]

No you can't

[steel heart]

Fish you’re fishy today

[wind patio]

💀 🍴 🍞

[remote goblet]

Skript makes people think they're developers

[sweet cipher]

Wdym? Skript developers are a real thing.

[remote goblet]

lets just call server configurators developers

i would not even call it developing

i would categorise it way more in the plugin configuration category just more advanced

[steel heart]

Skript is cringe

Idk how I liked it before

[sweet cipher]

Message from MD_5 why people think Skript is bad

Because people are bigoted elitists.
MD_5 is on the side of Skript
https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/why-is-skript-so-underrated.287233/

Now prove me wrong

[remote goblet]

oh yes

because md_5 is the smartest most intellectual person ever

[steel heart]

If md_5 then true

Myes

[remote goblet]

he's the best developer the spigot community has ever experienced

[sweet cipher]

Exactly

MD_5 made Minecraft

[steel heart]

Genius

[remote goblet]

the man that makes APIs used by thousands of people but hardly documented any of it should be the person we all look up to

[wind patio]

md_5, the king of all spigot developers, now bow

[remote goblet]

MD_5 sucks

[sweet cipher]

Rude

[steel heart]

He’s cool

[sweet cipher]

None of you made Spigot

[remote goblet]

okay and

[forest pecan]

I made spigot!

i am

[sweet cipher]

Oh

[steel heart]

But just because he thinks something doesn’t mean it’s always correct

[forest pecan]

op

[wind patio]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-and-ok-and-caption-trade-gif-21164436

[remote goblet]

if we did, We would actually document it properly

[sweet cipher]

And you agree Skript is amazing right?

[forest pecan]

yes

[remote goblet]

I hate you pulse

[forest pecan]

Skript is amazing

[sweet cipher]

See

Both people who made Spigot think Skript is great

[lunar cypress]

oh this again

[forest pecan]

Skript is the best programming language

[sweet cipher]

100%

[remote goblet]

anyway i go back to suffering

[forest pecan]

No

Come back

[wind patio]

Alive chat for once

[remote goblet]

i love you all, but you're all so terrible

[sweet cipher]

Says the one who thinks Skript is bad

[forest pecan]

Skript is pretty cool

[remote goblet]

dev general more active than #developer-chat

[forest pecan]

say what

[lunar cypress]

does anyone want to throw around some half assed understanding of programming language theory again to feed their superiority complex with regards to skript? I'm all here for it

[remote goblet]

no

no one cares enough for that again

[lunar cypress]

sad

[forest pecan]

I'm here for the XP

[sweet cipher]

I'm here to defend the best programming language

[forest pecan]

Same here

[remote goblet]

I don't actually ~hate~ skript, I just don't like it personally

[forest pecan]

The best programming language cannot be offended!

[sweet cipher]

Don't worry Skript loves everyone

[forest pecan]

Just look at this sexy beast

[remote goblet]

okay that gave me jesus jammer vibes

anyway

[forest pecan]

# event
on join:
    # effect
    broadcast "Welcome to Skript!"

so sexy

[sweet cipher]

So simple

[forest pecan]

Makes me creamy

[sweet cipher]

So elegant

[forest pecan]

So concise

So fast

So optimized

[steel heart]

Breh

[wind patio]

So words

So sentences

[forest pecan]

So

[steel heart]

No xp for you

[remote goblet]

I don't like skript because I couldn't actually use it in a genuine real life job

[sweet cipher]

Yes you can

[forest pecan]

Yes you can

[remote goblet]

I also wouldn't want to

[forest pecan]

You just need to be pro at it

[sweet cipher]

Skript developers make 10x more than Java developers because less people can do it

[forest pecan]

More demand

Less devs

[sweet cipher]

Exactly

[remote goblet]

Pulse go back to harassing people in #development

[wind patio]

Less people choose to use it you mean

[forest pecan]

No

[remote goblet]

sxtanna 2: electric boogaloo

[sweet cipher]

Matt won't let people do that

[forest pecan]

I want to protect Skript

with my hearrt

[sweet cipher]

Because they weren't smart enough to understand it

[wind patio]

What's there to understand

[forest pecan]

It's so hard to understand too

i don't even get how comments are added still

Like #? bro thats a hash brown

[sweet cipher]

lol

[remote goblet]

I am actually confused whether pulse is actually defending it or is being sarcastic at this point

[sweet cipher]

I don't know why Jetbrains made Kotlin when Skript was already a thing

[forest pecan]

Yeah

[sweet cipher]

Like why make a worse programming language?

[forest pecan]

Ikr

[remote goblet]

why make a programming language in the first place

teach everyone binary

[forest pecan]

Skript is lower than binary

you fool

[wind patio]

Yeah, all million dollar companies use Skript because of how superior it is compared to other languages

[sweet cipher]

It's mostly the billion dollar companies actually

[forest pecan]

FAANG

[wind patio]

Sorry my bad

[sweet cipher]

The million dollar companies can't afford to pay the Skript devs

[forest pecan]

Average yearly pay of a billion

[old wyvern]

Im sorry, is that a Anti-Elara statement I hear????!!!

[wind patio]

I overheard Google started using Skript

[forest pecan]

@prisma wave

[old wyvern]

Because, excuse me sir, but elara is the most paying language!

[sweet cipher]

They are trying to keep it a secret so that other companies don't realize the true power of Skript

[forest pecan]

Yeah

in reality, Skript is more than just a programming language

you pray for it

its jesus

[sweet cipher]

They were the ones who spread the lies about Skript being bad

[prisma wave]

true!

[forest pecan]

It determines your wife

[forest pecan]

it determines your pay

[prisma wave]

billions

[forest pecan]

F

[remote goblet]

in other news, I now go back to feeling pain & suffering

[prisma wave]

i miss the days where i was allowed to do a little trolling

[old wyvern]

😌

[steel heart]

Lol

[old wyvern]

Good ol' days

[forest pecan]

You can still troll!

Just give me admin

[prisma wave]

😮

[forest pecan]

I can help you

[old wyvern]

Just ban pulse, ez

[forest pecan]

Hey

[old wyvern]

Hey!

[forest pecan]

ban Yugi

for his dabbing pfp

[old wyvern]

/ban Yugi

[old wyvern]

😌

[static zealot]

don't ask for it. smh

[sweet cipher]

Blitz can we have your opinion on Skript?

[old wyvern]

tbh I dont think the dude in the pfp is dabbing

[sweet cipher]

They are crying

[old wyvern]

or wait no

nvm

[static zealot]

yes. you can have it. I don't need it anymore

[old wyvern]

They are

[sweet cipher]

Thank you

[serene cave]

Hello

I am the president of the United States

[static zealot]

bye

[serene cave]

No

[sweet cipher]

Donald Trump what is your opinion on Skript?

[serene cave]

Skript is what codes the government computers

[steel heart]

Donald Trump

[serene cave]

Yes I have came back

[steel heart]

Wat ya dink of Biden

[prisma wave]

hello donald

[serene cave]

Hello Brister

long time no see

[steel heart]

[remote goblet]

okay when i said pain and suffering i didnt actually mean it

im against a highly unfun character

[obtuse gale]

Hello Sir

[empty flint]

Quick question. What's the best way to avoid having a "core" plugin when you want to share common plugin functionality and have multiple plugins access the same instance of a class? Is there even one?

[potent nest]

Is it about common functionality or common data?

[empty flint]

Well both. But yeah the data part is the trickiest. Functionality only when it comes to different versions.

[steel heart]

@ocean quartz how does it feel doing cpp

[empty flint]

Is it even bad practise to have a separate plugin that handles that stuff?

[steel heart]

feels like a good one to me

more modular, easier to independently deploy certain modules

[empty flint]

So you're pro core plugins?

I guess that makes sense, yeah

[steel heart]

If you have code that is being shared across different plugins, then yeah

tho I guess can be a bit annoying updating all the modules that depend on your "common" module

sadly always pros/cons whatever you try

[empty flint]

There is no way of updating the plugin jars automatically or even downloading them automatically, is there?

[steel heart]

there's

[cinder flare]

ew separate core plugins are the worst

that's why I don't use RedLib lol

[empty flint]

Can you point me in the right direction?

[steel heart]

imo better than shading the common module into every other module

[cinder flare]

i'd rather have that

i don't wanna download a whole nother plugin for some random one

[steel heart]

I haven't messed with auto updating plugins since it's kinda uh well dissuaded for some reason you can probably figure out yourself, but look at LuckPerms, it handles runtime dependencies if thats what u want

also Brister Mitten got like a plugin package manager repo iirc

might be worth checking that out also ^

[cinder flare]

well generally downloading and deleting stuff in my plugins folder is frowned upon

[steel heart]

Star u dodo

[cinder flare]

i would only trust like paper to automatically update stuff for me

[steel heart]

wet

[ocean quartz]

It's arduino so it's not that bad

[empty flint]

What's your suggestion then if I have singletons in my common library that I want every plugin to use and not just use, but use the latest version in whatever plugin the latest one is packaged in

[steel heart]

ah cheers then

[ocean quartz]

Tell that to forge

[steel heart]

do they shade in their common stuff into every mod jar?

[cinder flare]

i mean, don't use singletons?

there really shouldn't be much that can't be separate modules that work independently no matter the version

[steel heart]

if ur common lib has an api, a good way to get access to the api might be a singleton tho

[cinder flare]

i mean like what stuff are you gonna be putting in your common api?

MF stuff has all I need covered and it's all separate shadeable bois

[steel heart]

shadeable

lol

[cinder flare]

yes

able to be shaded

[half harness]

u can shade redlib now

[steel heart]

tho, plugin libraries are a thing now

[empty flint]

What is redlib?

[ocean quartz]

No, once you want to download a mod, you run it and boom "this mod requires this, that, and that" now you have to go search for it and download it too, then the lib requires another and so on, it's super annoying to the end user

[cinder flare]

well that's a good sign

[steel heart]

oo yeah thats true

[cinder flare]

manual package management!

[steel heart]

but fat jars are fucking wide

my storage isnt unlimited

[cinder flare]

all of the mf utils are like, less than 1mb or something

how big are your libraries gonna be they don't do that much

[half harness]

100mb is a lot

👀

[steel heart]

slimefun

[half harness]

most plugins are <1mb

[ocean quartz]

Ah yes your 15GB server will definitely be filled with all those 100MB combined plugins

[steel heart]

yup

[cinder flare]

yeah your world file will be 10x larger than any plugins you have I guarantee

[steel heart]

pretty sure triumph-troll takes 85gb

[ocean quartz]

It does!

[steel heart]

[cinder flare]

[steel heart]

[ocean quartz]

So much better than the arduino IDE 😩

[cinder flare]

ooooh IJ arduino

now that's spicy

[ocean quartz]

A bit annoying to setup but working now

[cinder flare]

worth it

very beautiful

[steel heart]

gorgeous

might actually marry you

[obtuse gale]

@obtuse gale rawrr

[half harness]

wat

[obtuse gale]

?

[obtuse gale]

Wot?

[obtuse gale]

rawrr

[half harness]

why did u just randomly ping emilyy and say "rawrr"?

[obtuse gale]

Dinosaur

[half harness]

emilyy getting a whole bunch of pings recently 🥲

[obtuse gale]

Uh

It's nice cuz she get the attention that all women needed.

[half harness]

lol

@obtuse gale rawr

[obtuse gale]

Lol

Hahahaha

[obtuse gale]

Lol

[stuck harbor]

mmm clion

[sweet cipher]

I need attention too please

[obtuse gale]

Be a women first.

[prisma wave]

so true

[lunar cypress]

is this the titanic of the incel community?

[obtuse gale]

Yezz

[obtuse gale]

Maybe

[lunar cypress]

oh no

not even denying it

[half harness]

what is the titanic of the incel community?

[obtuse gale]

Do you watch the movie yet?

[half harness]

uhh

what movie?

👀

🥲

[obtuse gale]

Lol it's a movie

[half harness]

oh

titanic?

[obtuse gale]

Romantic

Yes

[half harness]

👀

[obtuse gale]

Called "Titantic"

[half harness]

https://www.google.com/search?q=incel I don't know if i should have googled this 🥲

[obtuse gale]

What the

It's about Romantic no incel

no ehem ehem man

[prisma wave]

uh huh

[obtuse gale]

Uh?

[dense dew]

do you like more java or javascript

helo btw

[ocean quartz]

Java, Javascript is hell

[dense dew]

why§

[obtuse gale]

They are entirely different languages

Java is to JavaScript what car is to carpet or ham to hamster

It's not that you "prefer one over the other", they are meant to work on different technologies

[stuck harbor]

clojure and clojurescript are also very different from each other

[dense dew]

idk some/most of people can say what language they prefer (maybe you can say if you prefer php or java 😏 )
Ik its completly different

[sweet cipher]

Java is for frontend, javascript is for backend

[dense dew]

😭

i mean things like

syntax, variables etc

not what it do

[stuck harbor]

indeed, the superior stack

[half harness]

wh

[stuck harbor]

Scheme has the best syntax, C is cool

end of story

[half harness]

|| nvm ||

[stuck harbor]

sql isn't a programming language imo

[sweet cipher]

What?

[dense dew]

or we can wait for britten and we ll find out that haskell is best

[half harness]

I think you got the two mixed up

🥲

[sweet cipher]

No

[stuck harbor]

||r/whoosh||

[sly sonnet]

@prisma wave Help us out, pal.

[lunar cypress]

yeah it is

it may not be general purpose but you write programs with it

[old wyvern]

Excuse me?

[static zealot]

fun fact. the Kotlin expansion for PAPI is written entirely in Java.

[hot hull]

Kek

[hot hull]

Showcase dud forgot it, or it's a feature, but I mean who needs persistency

[static zealot]

xD

[remote goblet]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/kotlin.93189/

[empty flint]

Is it possible to read the spigot.yml file from within a plugin?

I'd like to check if bungeecord is set to true or false

Or more specifically, what's the proper way of checking if a plugin running on spigot is part of a bungee network or not?

[old wyvern]

Like you'd read any other file ig

[empty flint]

I thought I could only access the plugin folder

wait so I can manipulate the file system?!

or just read from it?

[old wyvern]

Depends on the host

[hot hull]

You can't access beyond server jar I don't think, if even that

[old wyvern]

You cant really tell without checking the permission

If you have read/write permission to all directories, well yea

[hot hull]

You'd hope people aren't that dumb tho

[empty flint]

Would it perhaps be better to try to communicate with the bungeecord server and see if anything comes back via the bungee message network or whatever that API is called? If anything comes back, it's bungee, if not, it's standalone spigot?

[split wigeon]

am i able to get support here or is there a support channel somewhere?

wait not config help here
my bad

[static zealot]

#general-plugins

[half harness]

finally
someone who read the channel description xD

👏

[split wigeon]

aha
always do lol

[tidal agate]

does this server help with discord problems?

[half harness]

uhhh
its a minecraft support server but i guess you can try in #off-topic

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tidal agate]

do u know any discord help serers

servers*

[half harness]

sry no

[static zealot]

time to recycle an old joke.

if you don't want to get jabaited, don't click the link in #off-topic

you have been warned

[hot hull]

The need to be logged in saved me

[static zealot]

lmao

[crude crystal]

Any crypto developers here?

[prisma wave]

i would hope not

[crude crystal]

😢 why not

[prisma wave]

idk

but this is primarily a minecraft discord

[crude crystal]

Yeah but some people

do both

started with minercraft an got interest into crypto

[obtuse gale]

hi which channel is for minecraft support?

#minecraft

Or #general-plugins

Depends on the question

oke thx i have a super weird bug or something

its been going for a month i think lol

[static zealot]

wanna play coc guys?

[ocean quartz]

Coc you say 😳

[static zealot]

Coc I say

[old wyvern]

Handsome squidward asking for some cuc

[static zealot]

yes

so? anyone wants to play or should I not make a lobby?

[old wyvern]

Im up for a round

[static zealot]

that's all I need! 1 round of coc

[old wyvern]

🤨

[static zealot]

dw about it. I'm making the lobby now

here you go boys

not gonna mass ping this time xD

[eternal compass]

@everyone

[loud gyro]

The 'everyone' mention is disabled so you can't annoy people.

[eternal compass]

mass ping

[static zealot]

hmm

@prisma wave @ocean quartz @onyx loom @eternal compass @obtuse gale @half harness @sturdy latch @steel heart @lunar cypress @oblique heath who else used to play? xD

@hot hull join

[prisma wave]

who the hell is stabby meowkins

[ocean quartz]

Lmao

[eternal compass]

what language?

[static zealot]

I've got no idea

lmaooo

[obtuse gale]

I never actually played lmao

[eternal compass]

well nows the time

[ocean quartz]

You choose the language

[static zealot]

i don't even know who I wanted to ping instead lmaoo

[obtuse gale]

yeah ik

[prisma wave]

@cinder flare probably

[obtuse gale]

busy tho :(

[static zealot]

oh yeah

[eternal compass]

no I'm asking

[prisma wave]

yea im doing work rn soz

[eternal compass]

which one

[static zealot]

star it was

[eternal compass]

should I use

[prisma wave]

haskell

no

wrong reply

[ocean quartz]

Oh

[prisma wave]

haskell

[static zealot]

lmao

[eternal compass]

sounds hard

[static zealot]

star was haskell hmm?

[prisma wave]

it is

however

it's how i learned

suffering in coc = the best way of learning a language

[eternal compass]

BM join

[static zealot]

@mental trench ^

join

[prisma wave]

mhhhhhhhh

ok 1 game

[eternal compass]

😌

[prisma wave]

why no shortest D:

[static zealot]

we'll wait another 30 seconds. maybe Matt wakes up?

[static zealot]

I wonder why xD

[prisma wave]

you can win shortest with any language except java

[static zealot]

remember when ya'll were working on a COC bot and all that?

what happened with that?

[prisma wave]

it still exists

[static zealot]

I lost 30 seconds bcz it didn't get me in ..

[prisma wave]

sad

ez

[static zealot]

math 😦

[prisma wave]

it gives the equation

well mostly

[ocean quartz]

Nah, i don't like playing without shortest

[prisma wave]

😌

[static zealot]

welp. next one will have shortest

[prisma wave]

yessssss

[mental trench]

met too :c

[static zealot]

yeah. I don't understand this question. sorry boys. not going to complete this COC

[mental trench]

Spoiler:
||e=readline;l=e();r=e();print((r*2*Math.PI*l/60).toFixed(2))||

[static zealot]

1.67 so close yet so far

[mental trench]

[eternal compass]

I got it :p

in java

I could have gotten it so much quicker in JS

or in a real IDE

[mental trench]

CoC is an IDE

[eternal compass]

it doesn't detect errors

[static zealot]

so .I have to calculate the circumference which is l*2*PI right? and then multiply by r/60.0 ?

[eternal compass]

like missing ;

[mental trench]

thats part of your job

[static zealot]

because I get 1.674666666666...

[mental trench]

yes

i mean

60 is enough

[static zealot]

also tried using 3.14 instead of the PI from kotlin

[mental trench]

no 60.0

[eternal compass]

use PI

[static zealot]

nah. kotlin. bcz I get nextInt I need to divide by 60.0 to make it double

[eternal compass]

it works

[mental trench]

haaa xd

anoootheeer

[static zealot]

yeah. even if I divide after I multiply with R

I still get 1.67

[mental trench]

[static zealot]

omfggg

Found:

15.707963267948...

Expected:

15.71

[obtuse gale]

\🥴

[eternal compass]

lmao

[mental trench]

xddd

toFixed(2)

(sadly you are using java xd)

((int) (n * 10)) / 10d

[obtuse gale]

\🧐

[static zealot]

shortest is included

oh. yugi didn't finish

u still with us @old wyvern ?

[mental trench]

xdd

Programming languages allowed: All

[old wyvern]

oh sorru

I forgot

[static zealot]

@prisma wave we have shortest now. xD

[static zealot]

lmaooooo

[mental trench]

is it possible to select

[static zealot]

new one

[mental trench]

shortest mode only?

[static zealot]

yes. it is possible. I will not

[mental trench]

Nice

pick it

[surreal quarry]

should i play during my history lecture 👀

[merry tangle]

ok

[static zealot]

yes

clearly

[merry tangle]

anyone help help me

pls

[surreal quarry]

ok

[obtuse gale]

wat

[static zealot]

oops

wrong personm

[obtuse gale]

lmaoooo

[static zealot]

@eternal compass

[prisma wave]

wiki.bristermitten.me?

[merry tangle]

pls

[surreal quarry]

^^ has helped me numerous times

the wiki link not coding game

[static zealot]

launching

[mental trench]

have you tried that game Ghost Busters Coorp?

[merry tangle]

bruh antoe

pls

[mental trench]

Reverse mode

[merry tangle]

pls i need help

[obtuse gale]

#dev-general message

[prisma wave]

hey uh

shortest mode

oh

wait

no it's not

fuck

[mental trench]

[static zealot]

nooo

I spent to much testing

[surreal quarry]

ex

[static zealot]

and gotten 3

[surreal quarry]

ez

[static zealot]

idk if its even right

xD

ok

[surreal quarry]

idk why mine was in python lmao

too lazy to change it

[static zealot]

you can select language

[mental trench]

lmao

[static zealot]

its what you last used

it stores it

[surreal quarry]

yea ik

too lazy to change it

[static zealot]

yes

[mental trench]

NEW NEW NEWW

[static zealot]

I saw now

sorry

[surreal quarry]

its a lot of work those three clicks

[merry tangle]

plsssssssssssssssss

pls

pls

[static zealot]

what?

[merry tangle]

help me

[obtuse gale]

mate

shut the fuck up\

[mental trench]

ip

[surreal quarry]

https://wiki.bristermitten.me/getting-help

[static zealot]

ip*

[mental trench]

[static zealot]

yes please shut the fuck ip

xD

[old wyvern]

yes please shut the fuck ip

[mental trench]

stfi

[prisma wave]

ugh

[obtuse gale]

6 blocked messages

[old wyvern]

great!

[mental trench]

stfu
stfi

[static zealot]

we'll let fred do it

[old wyvern]

do what

[static zealot]

I need to go pick up my brother. byeeeee. have fun 😦

[eternal compass]

how do I hook up my IDE? 🥲

[mental trench]

[eternal compass]

it has no autocomplete

[mental trench]

alt + f4

[old wyvern]

Flirt with it

Take the laptop to your bedroom

[eternal compass]

already do that

[ocean quartz]

Copy the code to your IDE

[old wyvern]

Find the ventilation hole

[mental trench]

hey someone left!

[eternal compass]

fair

[surreal quarry]

i left

i have class lol

[ocean quartz]

Ugly

[mental trench]

whts that?

[old wyvern]

eh

[surreal quarry]

like

school

[old wyvern]

blitz left

[mental trench]

school?

i dont even remember my last day at school lol

[ocean quartz]

School is not more important than coc

[eternal compass]

I'm supposed to be in school rn, but I can't do in today lol

[surreal quarry]

yea true matt

[mental trench]

Wiser words have never been spoken

[eternal compass]

@distant sun join

[mental trench]

Someone should pick only shortest mode

[distant sun]

I'm about to leave soon

[eternal compass]

okay well play quickly then

more incentive

[mental trench]

We need more people

imagine pinging everyone in Python discord for a CoC

[surreal quarry]

start

Lmao

[mental trench]

gogogogo

HELL YEAHH

[surreal quarry]

is python ok?

or only longer languages

[ocean quartz]

Python is fine

[prisma wave]

fred

shortest

[mental trench]

LOL

[eternal compass]

why so easy

[mental trench]

shhh shhh xd

he won

:c

[eternal compass]

        System.out.println(length * width * 2 + length * height * 2 + width * height * 2);

lmao

[mental trench]

xdddd

[eternal compass]

and the other guy I invited

came second

[distant sun]

what is that?

[eternal compass]

@old oriole

we're here

[eternal compass]

rectangle surface from 3 dimensions

[old oriole]

hellllo

[mental trench]

adele?

[distant sun]

System.out.println(2*(l*w+l*h+w*h)); shorter 😄

[eternal compass]

eh true

@prisma wave speed up

[prisma wave]

ok

cant quite beat js

[mental trench]

[eternal compass]

java is awful for char count

but I want to do java

[surreal quarry]

python 🌚

[mental trench]

bash

someone left?

[remote goblet]

someone left?

[mental trench]

who are those 2?

[prisma wave]

oh

whoops

[surreal quarry]

im done

[prisma wave]

i closed the tab

[mental trench]

Who's Vshnv and ipsk

create a new one c:

[prisma wave]

yugi and matt

[obtuse gale]

yugi and matt

[mental trench]

ahhhh

which is matt

i guess the one with one piece image

[ocean quartz]

Yes

Definitely one piece

100% one piece

[eternal compass]

new one

and not shortest

[mental trench]

ond

[eternal compass]

hm?

[mental trench]

Kotlin

[old oriole]

r=readline;l=+r();w=+r();h=+r();print((l*w+w*h+l*h)*2)

[mental trench]

yeah

[old oriole]

couldnt that have been faster

[mental trench]

||r=readline;l=+r();w=+r();h=+r();print((l*w+w*h+l*h)*2)||

[old wyvern]

Tried to make a bit cleverer solution but thats just longer

[mental trench]

yeah, i didnt want to send it here

[old oriole]

why

[mental trench]

people is still clashing

[mental trench]

:daaaa:

[old oriole]

i didnt know it counts characters or i would have done it in python

lol

[mental trench]

thats was shortest mode is about

[eternal compass]

I would have used JS lol

I had no idea

[mental trench]

so close damnn

[old oriole]

ok this is my first time leave me alone lmao

should we do another

[mental trench]

you are now green

[old oriole]

kinda fun

good for brain

i am green

[eternal compass]

hi green

I'm fred

[old oriole]

hello

[mental trench]

I think brister is not starting one more

*Alonso leaves the chat*

[eternal compass]

noo

[old oriole]

https://www.codingame.com/clashofcode/clash/1941127b68e15ff0e3890756a18fbcf735768ba join

is that allowed or am i gonna get banned

idk

im new here lmao

[ocean quartz]

You're fine

[eternal compass]

(same one)

[old oriole]

what command is dat

[eternal compass]

none

just post the link

[old oriole]

how come it didnt work for me ;-;

[mental trench]

[old oriole]

maybe because i said join at the end

lol

[mental trench]

[eternal compass]

you had other text

[old oriole]

ah

[eternal compass]

👀

[mental trench]

i'll use java then

[old oriole]

evil laughter

[mental trench]

oh no,js is faster

[old oriole]

depends what youre more fluent in

[eternal compass]

[mental trench]

English

[old oriole]

if you dont know js, then java would be faster

i only know a smol amount of js

[eternal compass]

@prisma wave @onyx loom @cinder flare @ocean quartz

[old oriole]

joinjoinjoin

[mental trench]

i just use java for plugins and discord

[old oriole]

jda?

[mental trench]

indeed

[eternal compass]

JDA good

[old oriole]

i dont like jda

i use javacord

[mental trench]

eww

[old oriole]

lol

[eternal compass]

why

eww

[old oriole]

idk

i just

think its easier to set up

[mental trench]

[old oriole]

just got used to it

[mental trench]

naaaa, jda is faster

and better

imo

[old oriole]

starting clash

[ocean quartz]

Only fastest is a no from me sir

[eternal compass]

@mental trench share code

[mental trench]

r=readline;w=+r();H=+r();for(h=0;h<H;h++)print("O".repeat(w))

[eternal compass]

this wasn't shortest

was it

[mental trench]

[ocean quartz]

No, it was only fastest

[eternal compass]

        for (int i = 0; i < height; i++) {
            StringBuilder builder = new StringBuilder();
            for (int j = 0; j < width; j++) {
                builder.append("O");
            }
            System.out.println(builder.toString());
        }

[mental trench]

sadly java doesnt have a repeat thing

[eternal compass]

I would have been so much faster if I didn't get confused between O and 0

[mental trench]

i mean i has a Collections.nCopies

or something

iirc

[mental trench]

happened to me too xD

I was like wtf

hold on, that zero looks weird

xD

[eternal compass]

@old oriole speed up :p

[old oriole]

im confused

[eternal compass]

im fred

[mental trench]

speed up = hurry

[old oriole]

as to what its asking for

shut up lmao

[eternal compass]

it wants a rectangle

[mental trench]

shut ip

^

[eternal compass]

eg.
2 x 2 =

OO
OO

[old oriole]

when it says 4x4 does it want
OOOO
OOOO
OOOO
OOOO

[eternal compass]

yes

exactly

[old oriole]

for the 20x20 it says

1 sec

[mental trench]

java should have a

"string".repeat(3)

[old oriole]

BRH

[eternal compass]

does it?

[old oriole]

stupid bot

[eternal compass]

I just used forI

and a string Builder

[mental trench]

*should have*

[eternal compass]

ahh

[mental trench]

but there is a nCopies method iirc

[eternal compass]

oh

d;String#nCopies

[ruby crater]

java.lang.String#lines

public Stream<String> lines()```

Description:

Returns a stream of lines extracted from this string, separated by line terminators.

A line terminator is one of the following: a line feed character "\n" (U+000A), a carriage return character "\r" (U+000D), or a carriage return followed immediately by a line feed "\r\n" (U+000D U+000A).

A line is either a sequence of zero or more characters followed by a line terminator, or it is a sequence of one or more characters followed by the end of the string. A line does not include the line terminator.

The stream returned by this method contains the lines from this string in the order in which they occur.

Since:

11

Returns:

the stream of lines extracted from this string

Page 4 • Requested by: Fredthedoggy • jdk

[mental trench]

[eternal compass]

oh

d;Collections#nCopies

[ruby crater]

java.util.Collections#nCopies

public static List<T> nCopies(int n, T o)
throws IllegalArgumentException```

Description:

Returns an immutable list consisting of n copies of the specified object. The newly allocated data object is tiny (it contains a single reference to the data object). This method is useful in combination with the List.addAll method to grow lists. The returned list is serializable.

Returns:

an immutable list consisting of n copies of the specified object.

Throws:

IllegalArgumentException - if n < 0

Parameters:

n - the number of elements in the returned list.
o - the element to appear repeatedly in the returned list.

Requested by: Fredthedoggy • jdk

[mental trench]

[eternal compass]

[mental trench]

[eternal compass]

[mental trench]

diamond paste this xD

[old oriole]

lol

[eternal compass]

JS is lame though

I'm like 10x quicker at it

but still lame

😄

[obtuse gale]

🥴

[prisma wave]

🥴

[distant sun]

Lol

[distant sun]

Mmm

[obtuse gale]

Gn

[frail glade]

If any of y'all are using projects written with ACF, I advise you recompile the latest changes deployed yesterday. There was an issue where it was looping through all players online to get client locale every second and there was no cache for it so it was showing up on the main tick. Latest deployment updates check time and implements locale cache.

[prisma wave]

Ah yeah, I saw the issue mentioning that. I'll rebuild, thanks for mentioning

[dawn hinge]

thanks :)

[obtuse gale]

Yikes

That's not very cash money of you, Aikar

[static zealot]

how were the COC games?

[steel heart]

They were good

[static zealot]

You are given an array of N integers and a list of M inclusive ranges a, b.

For each range, print the sum of the values in the array with an index between a and b inclusive.
someone explain to me what does this mean? XD I don't have an a or a b

oh nvm. they're not named a or b. fuck

[steel heart]

lel

You’re truly wonderful chad

[mental trench]

I wont in most

jsut saying

CANCELLED!

[obtuse gale]

After weeks or months you will quit it.

I just full rush my base & at last... there's no fun anymore..

[steel heart]

?

I don’t think you understand the essence of coc, I have yet not quit

[obtuse gale]

Wtf... Don't rush TH...

[distant sun]

Weak

[obtuse gale]

Yes it's a weak strategy..

[static zealot]

It was very painful trying to quit that game. But after a few months of trying, I Did it

[obtuse gale]

I just spend over $10k for coc over past years when it was popular..

[steel heart]

My troops are maxed almost

Just the defense

But it takes freaking ages

[obtuse gale]

Still mate... That's why it's a chill game

[obtuse gale]

What the actual fuck?

[distant sun]

?

[obtuse gale]

Impressive

[distant sun]

:)

[obtuse gale]

Are you leader of that clan?

Maybe i'll try to join

[distant sun]

Nah I'm not, I think about moving though

[obtuse gale]

I just staying in clan called "Req & Leave" to farm my exp

[distant sun]

https://www.clashofstats.com/players/gaby-UUULQ2J0/summary

[frail glade]

Anyone here used Ktor before?

[static zealot]

Matt

what hasn't matt done. damn that guy is cool

[frail glade]

@ocean quartz hello sweety

[ocean quartz]

Oh hi, yes Ktor i love it

[static zealot]

😻

[frail glade]

So you know my MCBanners project? I'm looking to minimize hosting cost for it, so someone suggested checking out Cloudflare Workers. It doesn't support Java so I was looking at KotlinJS possibly. I'm basically looking on how I want to approach this. MCBanners is a Spring Boot backend with microservices and a front-end Nuxt (Vue) website. Is Ktor something that would work here? I'm not entirely sure what I'm looking for.

[ocean quartz]

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure Ktor is just jvm and native

Let me confirm that though

[frail glade]

Ahh, damn. If that's the case, I'm not entirely sure how I would rewrite this all in the backend to work in Cloudflare Workers.

[ocean quartz]

Yeah ktor server is just jvm
Ktor client has jvm, android, js, native
So yeah probably won't work

[frail glade]

I wonder if I can write the backend in NodeJS then. Basically the website should be good, but just have that push requests out in the proper location. I would just need to have it somehow handle the routes like Spring does.

[ocean quartz]

I think expressjs could be good

[frail glade]

And can CW host that?

[ocean quartz]

I think it runs on nodejs

[steel heart]

SpringBoot

[prisma wave]

Have you considered alternatives like AWS Lambda and Azure functions?

[frail glade]

I have not, no.

[prisma wave]

I don't know what they support but they might be a little more open ended

[frail glade]

I know if I got it through CW I wouldn't have to pay because we wouldn't hit the 100K a day or whatever.

[prisma wave]

Ah yeah

I think lambda just takes a docker image so that might work

1 million free requests / day

[frail glade]

Their website says 1M per month

[prisma wave]

Oh yeah, per month sorry*

But that may still be enough, and even if it was over you probably wouldn't be paying much

[frail glade]

I'll look into AWS Lambda if it can handle Spring. If it can handle microservices and connect them, then I think it could work.

[prisma wave]

I don't know too much about how it works, but it's worth a look

If you can generate a docker image then it should work

[frail glade]

Yeah we have MCBanners fully dockerized on an Oracle VM right now.

[prisma wave]

The oracle free one?

[frail glade]

Yeah

[prisma wave]

What's the issue then? Surely that's enough

[frail glade]

You have to reset it every couple weeks iirc

They don't tell you when it's going to go down afaik

[prisma wave]

Oh, what?

[old wyvern]

what?

[prisma wave]

is that the same thing that happened to me?

[old wyvern]

No

Its running just fine for me for like atleast 2 months now

I havent even opened the panel in almost a month

[frail glade]

I've had 4 people now tell me that theirs has stopped after like 60 days and they have to remake the instances.

[old wyvern]

huh

weird

Maybe they exceeded the spec limit for always free

[frail glade]

No idea tbh. It's just kind of concerning that MCBanners could just drop at any given time without warning.

[old wyvern]

😬

What is mcbanners btw?

like for plugin banners?

[frail glade]

Yeah on like SpigotMC and stuff.

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/mcbanners-generate-custom-banners.412319/

"However, Ampere A1 Compute instances are disabled when your trial ends and then deleted (terminated) after 30 days, unless you upgrade to a paid account. "

Is that not what we made?

[mental gulch]

hello I come to see you to know how to install java 16 on a Debian vps I already have java 11 on the vps

[obtuse gale]

sdkman

[frail glade]

@old wyvern I suggest you make a recent backup of everything just in case if you're nearing 60 days.

[cinder flare]

huh

[eternal compass]

we were playing Clash of code

ig it deleted the embed with the join link

[static zealot]

COC*

[eternal compass]

isn't that clash of clans?

[ocean quartz]

K*

[static zealot]

@half harness u done with school?

[half harness]

yes

[static zealot]

wanna play?

[half harness]

lol

ill play a couple

[static zealot]

ok. I'll be on in a second

it was 1.5 seconds

but I am o

n

[half harness]

i have to sign in every time ;-;

[static zealot]

what? why?

[half harness]

idk

[static zealot]

you're doing something wrong

[surreal quarry]

lmfao im in a cs class for learning about tools

and theyre showing vim

and some kid goes "how do i exit"

classic

[cinder flare]

https://tenor.com/view/blunder-princess-bride-you-fool-gullible-gotcha-gif-14120688

[sweet cipher]

Great movie

[ocean quartz]

Is it possible to instantiate annotations in Java?

[obtuse gale]

by.. using them?

why?

[ocean quartz]

No no, like actually instantiating them directly

I guess you can

Asking because that's a feature in Kotlin 1.5.30 now

[stuck harbor]

ya know, kotlin is useful and all

but kotlin native scares me

[steel heart]

Yes

They’re interfaces after all, implementable

[obtuse gale]

I don't think that's how it works Conclure

unless it is idk

[ocean quartz]

Difference is that Java needs to be anonymous the Kotlin implementation would just be Default(alias = []) etc

[obtuse gale]

well they are definitely instantiated by the JVM

[ocean quartz]

Warning

[obtuse gale]

with the methods automagically implemented (at runtime?), kinda like a record

[humble silo]

In kotlin arent all annotations final? So they cant be inherited?

[ocean quartz]

Not sure tbh

[steel heart]

Ye this got interesting

[obtuse gale]

well yeah you need to implement annotationType

it's literally telling you lmao

[obtuse gale]

is that java?

[humble silo]

ew it is

lol

[steel heart]

Yeah but that means they’re anonymously instantiable 👀

[ocean quartz]

Yeah

Can be anonymous yeah

[humble silo]

wait How is that working? I cant seem to do it in kotlin even with a annotation written in java

[obtuse gale]

Is it really of much use though? Like the whole point is to use as metadata scanning

[prisma wave]

I think Guice actually does it for stuff like Named

[obtuse gale]

💀

[prisma wave]

bind(clazz).in(Named.name("blah"))

[ocean quartz]

Try Kotlin 1.5.30

[steel heart]

Spring Autowired!!!!!! > guice

[ocean quartz]

Not much tbh, the Kotlin example they give is

Also fuck you Kotlin for not using brackets on that example

[steel heart]

Boblin

[humble silo]

I get the weirdest errors... check this out

1.5.21 works fine

1.5.30 throws that when reloading gradle

[steel heart]

Pulled a dkim

Jk

[ocean quartz]

Is that another funky thing from jigsaw?

[humble silo]

What is up with this now

Ij deciding to go crazy

[humble silo]

Think its gradle, one second though

[ocean quartz]

Try invalidating cache and restart

[humble silo]

im reloading again and its doing something different

[humble silo]

already did

no fix

lol

great stuff over here

nvm i hate life

i reloaded a second time and now kotlin 1.5.30 is working just fine

[ocean quartz]

Lmao

[steel heart]

🥲

[wind patio]

K 🤮 tlin

[old wyvern]

Alrighty