#dev-general
prisma wave
obtuse gale
lol
prisma wave
lunar cypress
notch was like "hurr durr gmtk is just politics nowadays" and gmtk said they wouldn't do politics anymore if he deleted his account
prisma wave
Will have a read when I get home
prisma wave
notch was like "hurr durr gmtk is just politics nowadays" and gmtk said they wou...
Libtards owned
prisma wave
How is it even political
I've not watched in a while but like
Does that just mean they reviewed a game with a black person in or something
lunar cypress
talking about accessibility maybe?
ocean quartz
Gradle is less arrowy than Maven, they said
vagrant bobcat
im currently having an issue and not sure whats causing it. so i have a plugin called playtime and i recently added playtime top to it but for some reason its adding the same user in different positions but in the json file theres only 1 data for the user. the top ones are the correct ones which shows the correct time and the other ones dont update.
code: https://github.com/Twi5TeD/PlayTime/blob/master/src/me/F64/PlayTime/Commands/PlayTimeTop.java
image: http://prntscr.com/12hffmw
steel heart
Gradle is less arrowy than Maven, they said
flat it out?
ocean quartz
Just a joke, it's actually not that much
onyx loom
the issue is kotlin dsl
steel heart
yeah well I mean you can generally do stuff like
shadowJar {
classifier 'blah'
}
//to
shadowJar.classifier 'blah'
``` if u didnt know but I take it u alr knowSorry couldn't read that over all the warnings in the file
obtuse gale
only yellow decorations
onyx loom
except like 1 or 2 times 🥲
ocean quartz
Lmao
jovial warren
https://twitter.com/notch/status/1381210417507278852?s=19
Oh my god
no!
how could he!
unkempt tangle
how do I install conda?
old wyvern
Anaconda?
unkempt tangle
think so
old wyvern
humble silo
Since IJ is being a pain i have to convert my project to kotlin mostly by hand, I know i have to convert the gradle stuff over(change the file type etc.) but then are there alot of internal project configuration things i have to do or no? I dont really want to brute force it and have issues later
frail glade
You don't have to change the Gradle to the Kotlin DSL.
But yeah, I wouldn't trust IJ to convert my project over to Kotlin directly.
humble silo
You don't *have* to change the Gradle to the Kotlin DSL.
Is there a good way to do it? I switch it over and then a bunch of IJ things/warnings/flags pop up at the top like script configuration wasnt received It seems like its getting confused by some internal configuration of the project but i have literally no idea what i need to change around
Ive already restarted and invalidated my caches
frail glade
I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about. Got some screenshots?
humble silo
Huh, it seems to have sorted itself out after changing the single quotes to double ill see if it runs though
half harness
in kotlin single quotes = a character wheras in groovy it's a string
humble silo
Any reason why kotlin needs a different file type for gradle? It seems like it shouldnt matter too much
gradle.build.kts for example
build.gradle*
wow it actually compiled and ran
prisma wave
It doesn't need a different one
They're 2 distinct things that just happen to use the same language
humble silo
It doesn't need a different one
So does it make sense to change it or not?
prisma wave
It's personal preference
humble silo
Well its working fine when did so i guess ill just stick with it like that
prisma wave
If you wanna change for the sake of consistency, sure. If you don't care, it's fine to leave it
half harness
i use groovy bc its more common = better support but i also code in kotlin
humble silo
If you wanna change for the sake of consistency, sure. If you don't care, it's f...
Alr thanks, Btw ive been looking at krypton and it looks amazing! I started trying to learn kotlin this week and looking over krypton was a giant help(seeing what you guys did in terms of language specific stuff)!
frail glade
Yeah I typically just use Kotlin in projects but the regular Groovy build system. Works fine.
prisma wave
Alr thanks, Btw ive been looking at krypton and it looks amazing! I started tryi...
Krypton bad
Learn Haskell instead
prisma wave
NO
humble silo
Krypton bad
Im assuming you are kidding though, it looks very will written from a quick glance
Functionality aside 😅
prisma wave
well
the bits written by me are well written, yes
Would be a whole lot nicer in Haskell though
humble silo
the bits written by me are well written, yes
so humble!
Well alr thanks for the help
ocean quartz
in kotlin single quotes = a character wheras in groovy it's a string
Groovy is like '' string! "" string! 0 string! ItemStack string! any string!
half harness
wat
prisma wave
so humble!
my humility is one of my many great qualities
onyx loom
no
prisma wave
yes
humble silo
God IJ is weird, I created a small test project in Java then tried to convert it to kotlin and had SO many issues, then i did it with my real one and it went just fine
onyx loom
🥲
humble silo
Eclipse better
so true 
half harness
🥲
ocean quartz
How does this compile as a KTS??
You changing it to gradle.kts?
humble silo
im trying to
Honestly the only reason i am though is being Id get hated on later for not
half harness
good luck - gradle kts in general is nice, but if you're trying to use a plugin that only has documentation for groovy, it can get annoying :p
half harness
by plugin i meant a gradle plugin
humble silo
ah i see
half harness
which is the reason why i went from groovy -> kts -> groovy -> kts -> groovy
ocean quartz
plugins {
java
}
group = "net.yakclient"
version = "1.0-SNAPSHOT"
repositories {
mavenCentral()
}
dependencies() {
testimplementation("...")
implementation("...")
}
tasks {
test {
useJUnitPlatform()
}
}
not really
some people prefer kts
some dont
im on the fence atm
ocean quartz
I prefer kts
humble silo
IJ will automatically create it as a kts though, is there a way to tell it not to?
ocean quartz
IJ normally defaults to groovy
humble silo
In a kotlin project this is what it generated
humble silo
although you can select groovy
well its easy to stay on groovy so i guess ill stick with that then
god this is opinionated
ocean quartz
half harness
ye thats what i was talking about
humble silo
ah nice, you took the time to draw arrows?
obtuse gale
```kt
plugins {
java
}
group = "net.yakclient"
version = "1.0-SNAPSHOT"
re...
tasks.test {
useJUnitPlatform()
}
👀
prisma wave
humble silo
What is the minecraft option btw?
ocean quartz
Personally i prefer this way of creating
half harness
ah nice, you took the time to draw arrows?
it takes like 10 seconds ._.
ocean quartz
What is the minecraft option btw?
The minecraft development plugin, i have it but tbh don't use it
onyx loom
Personally i prefer this way of creating
please untick java 🙂
half harness
hey guys
where is the list of all thing you can put on yoru scoreboard
wat
prisma wave
frail glade
I love the MC Dev thingy 😄
onyx loom
support in training
ocean quartz
```kt
tasks.test {
useJUnitPlatform()
}
```
👀
I like that way so you can have multiple tasks without needing to always do tasks.
prisma wave
hey guys
where is the list of all thing you can put on yoru scoreboard
Not entirely sure what you mean, but you probably wanna ask over in #general-plugins ! have a nice day!
how's that
onyx loom
lol
humble silo
Im assuming this is pretty bad kotlin? Its auto generated
idk why it put the run blocks in 👀
prisma wave
could be worse...
kinda cursed though
https://x0.at/J56.png this can all go
the run blocks can go
apart from that it's pretty much fine-ish
ocean quartz
You wouldn't, normally it'd be a top level function
And not jvmstatic
And wouldn't even need args
onyx loom
val `class` 🙂
humble silo
so much better
Are regex's different in kotlin? Its complaining about those
Doesnt seem to like the "_" here
ocean quartz
Depends, what is it saying?
humble silo
unresolved reference
half harness
put a \ maybe
half harness
you can do this: @humble silo kt val variable = "a" val other = "b" val string = "first variable: $variable, second variable: $other, combined: ${variable.plus(other)}" println(string) this will print first variable: a, second variable: b, combined: ab
humble silo
i actually dont even need that
half harness
and so it errors because _ isn't a variable
humble silo
im just gonna take that part out cause it was deprecated anyways... I totally forgot what that regex was for
lunar cypress
How do I send something from github -> intellij
what do you mean by that
oak raft
I forked something right
And now I wanna make edits
Inside of IntelliJ
So how do I send those files over to my IDE
Do I need GitHub Desktop for that?
half harness
ew no
half harness
How do I send something from github -> intellij
either
New -> From Version Control
or if it's your own project
Git -> Branch -> branch name
prisma wave
anyone know what scope i should be using in coroutines if GlobalScope is bad
obviously Dispatchers.IO for IO, but what about for more general stuff?
jovial warren
\d{4}-\d{2}-\d{2} \d{2}:\d{2}:\d{2} \[\w+\] \w+ \w+ - .* I am the regex master lol
somehow that matches a line in Krypton's log format lol
trying to configure Ideolog
old wyvern
obviously Dispatchers.IO for IO, but what about for more general stuff?
Default or you could always create a dispatcher from your own thread pool
prisma wave
isn't Default blocking
old wyvern
No
prisma wave
huh
i saw some article that said Thread.sleep will block it, but i guess i'll be using delay() so that's fine
okay
old wyvern
Default uses the fjp common pool I think, but that might be implementation details
prisma wave
ah cool
jovial warren
you know the IO dispatcher is backed by the default dispatcher right?
prisma wave
doesn't seem much point making my own pool when there's at least 2 existing ones
jovial warren
the IO and default dispatchers use the same pool lol
old wyvern
i saw some article that said Thread.sleep will block it, but i guess i'll be usi...
Yes ofc, Thread.sleep is not ideomatic inside a coroutine context unless you want to hog up one of the threads xD
prisma wave
the IO and default dispatchers use the same pool lol
then the article was dumb
jovial warren
* This dispatcher shares threads with a [Default][Dispatchers.Default] dispatcher, so using
* `withContext(Dispatchers.IO) { ... }` does not lead to an actual switching to another thread —
* typically execution continues in the same thread.
* As a result of thread sharing, more than 64 (default parallelism) threads can be created (but not used)
* during operations over IO dispatcher.
```from the documentation of `Dispatchers.IO`They are not
prisma wave
ok?
jovial warren
They are not
yes they do
old wyvern
They simply share some threads
prisma wave
i dont see how that's relevant lol
jovial warren
I think they're still managed by the same scheduler, just not the same dispatcher, which would make sense
actually schedulers = dispatchers
and ready?
old wyvern
What?
prisma wave
wait so
old wyvern
they're dispatched by the same dispatcher, and they use the same executor
Look carefully, their parallelism values are different
prisma wave
CoroutineScope(Dispatchers.Default).launch {}?
old wyvern
Yes?
prisma wave
ok
old wyvern
Oh btw
prisma wave
just making sure
old wyvern
Sx said you should keep that instance cached
prisma wave
ah yeah
old wyvern
old wyvern
😌
prisma wave
I'm sure haskell's coroutines are EASY
onyx loom
Hrypton is a minecraft server implementation written from scratch in Haskell
prisma wave
😮 😮
ocean quartz
Written from scratch in Haskell++
onyx loom
MineKraft
jovial warren
aren't you the founder of krypton?
Brister Mitten is the founder of MineKraft (original name of the project) unfortunately
and he's going to get removed from the dev team if he doesn't start pulling his weight soon
jovial warren
lol
ocean quartz
and he's going to get removed from the dev team if he doesn't start pulling his ...
Classic BM
jovial warren
looks like Android to me
old wyvern
Yes
jovial warren
Classic BM
making shit then giving up on it? yeah sounds like Alex to me
also, https://i.imgur.com/OZ4jFDt.png one of the like hundreds of differences between Krypton data and Notchian data for broken section 1, 7, 6
might explain it
I don't know what's causing it though, which is annoying
I could be reading data wrong, but I find that unlikely as I basically read Anvil with the same mechanism that vanilla does
it seems to be happening at index 2061 in the buffer
steel heart
Maybe it’s an nms thing
jovial warren
iirc minecarts always face north
just a game mechanic
actually not true
maybe they always spawn north
or maybe it's just Bukkit being shit as always
steel heart
Worst case scenario you’d have to use reflection and shit
jovial warren
perhaps this is just yet another thing that Bukkit won't let you do
dis why Bukkit bad
steel heart
Imagine using Bukkit when Krypton exists 
jovial warren
@tranquil crane add that to the list of things that Krypton needs to do better than Bukkit please (you're the one working on entities, and read up if you don't know what I'm referencing when you read this later 🙂)
jovial warren
Imagine using Bukkit when Krypton exists <:KEKW:798295790773600306>
ikr
Krypton has chunk streaming now as well
a.k.a you move between chunks = new chunks load and old chunks unload
steel heart
thats pog^pog
jovial warren
ikr
and I wanna fix broken sections next, which will be pog^pog^pog^pog^pog^pog^pog^pog^pog
obtuse gale
wasn't there an arrow notation to "accumulate" consecutive exponentiation?
prisma wave
and he's going to get removed from the dev team if he doesn't start pulling his ...
go on
jovial warren
what's this?
obtuse gale
unimaginably large numbers
prisma wave
comically large
obtuse gale
beyond astronomically large
prisma wave
im sure haskell could process them with ease
jovial warren
https://i.imgur.com/XpwIpqE.png yeah that might explain why the section at Y 7 is broken
ffs
lol
lol
ew Windows xD
sounds like Minecraft to me
old wyvern
sentient minecarts
ocean quartz
Try changing the rotation on the spawn method's consumer
jovial warren
onyx loom
what am i looking at here bardy
jovial warren
look at the text on the screen
half harness
https://i.imgur.com/9NJp2L6.png WHY
what is that
jovial warren
left is data sent by Krypton, right is data sent by the Notchian server
it's chunk data
onyx loom
ok and is this good or bad
half harness
uhh
jovial warren
and every red line is a difference
half harness
aren't they supposed to be the same
jovial warren
that's the point dkim, yes
onyx loom
🙂
jovial warren
idk why the client's not rendering these still though
jovial warren
jovial warren
imagine not using kotlinx.atomicfu
ocean quartz
Try changing the rotation on the spawn method's consumer
obtuse gale
I think that's some vanilla client bullshit lol
jovial warren
as I said, sounds like Minecraft to me
inner umbra
But I can move them and they will still change their yaw at the same time
distant sun
would be possible to create a python app and make it usable without having to install python on your computer?
old wyvern
with cython maybe
onyx loom
download python at runtime 😎
prisma wave
p
ocean quartz
kotlinx.atomicfu Atomic fuck you
jovial warren
jovial warren
https://x0.at/T45.png BRO its literally like 3 clicks
what plugin is this?
prisma wave
the atomicfu one...
jovial warren
lol
ocean quartz
That Elizarov dude is actually a pretty cool guy
prisma wave
i am not using buildscript
no
if he was cool he wouldve stopped using deprecated gradle apis in 2 years
lazy sod
release 8 days ago and they cant figure out how to publish a gradle plugin
GROW UP
im actually embarassed to be using this language
absolutely useless
onyx loom
dont use it then 🌚
onyx loom
i think its time u need some groovy in ur life
prisma wave
god i would love some
prisma wave
how can u circlejerk a language whose libraries arent even usable 🤣
onyx loom
ikr kotlin SO bad 🙄
half harness
kotlin > haskell
prisma wave
you know
in haskell i would have this done already
in kotlin i have to WORK AROUND the language
prisma wave
yeah ur right
onyx loom
its by far the best jvm language 🙂
prisma wave
so true
god
and now because of USELESS kotlin i have to REDEFINE 300 operators just because i want an ATOMIC
inner umbra
I figured it out @jovial warren delay the teleport method.
prisma wave
bro this is a JOKE
onyx loom
have u tried not usign atomic
jovial warren
I figured it out <@!266294134116057089> delay the teleport method.
sounds like something Trashkit would require you to do lol
half harness
B.A.A.S - Too many caps!
No need to shout.
Barry's Anti Abuse System | v1.4.4
onyx loom
it does
prisma wave
WHATS THIS
half harness
B.A.A.S - Too many caps!
No need to shout.
Barry's Anti Abuse System | v1.4.4
prisma wave
THEN
onyx loom
in comparison to java 🙂
half harness
smh
tranquil crane
could you don't
jovial warren
https://i.imgur.com/k7Fu05M.png you know you're getting bored when you do this
half harness
bad staff
prisma wave
https://i.imgur.com/k7Fu05M.png you know you're getting bored when you do this
cat < getLine >>= putStrLn 🙂
tranquil crane
https://i.imgur.com/9NJp2L6.png WHY
f
jovial warren
yeah I'm not even actually gonna bother to fix that lol
onyx loom
could you dont
half harness
B.A.A.S - Too many caps!
No need to shout.
Barry's Anti Abuse System | v1.4.5
prisma wave
Please make a good Kotlin library for atomic variables which features a functioning Gradle plugin thank you 🥰
tranquil crane
is there a way for you to print out the data in binary notation to see if there's a pattern to it or something?
jovial warren
I can print out the raw binary data, can even write it out, for Krypton that is
for vanilla I'm on my own unless I inject an agent
jovial warren
gotta inject https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1f/Agent_Smith_(The_Matrix_series_character).jpg into the Notchian server
onyx loom
no stupid atomicfu or whatever its called
tranquil crane
could you send me both those data files
jovial warren
could you send me both those data files
gotta get the Krypton one again since I fucked it but sure
tranquil crane
aight
prisma wave
i got it 😄
prisma wave
It is
But I was unsure about the behaviour
given there's ++x and x++
nono nonononnon on no non
how do i atomic CircularFifoQueue
jovial warren
atomic<CircularFifoQueue>()?
jovial warren
or just use AtomicReference lol
prisma wave
how to make CircularFifoQueue thread safe
jovial warren
ik
prisma wave
jovial warren
yeah right
prisma wave
https://x0.at/Ag5.png utter piss take at this point
jovial warren
the amount of times I've asked for help and you've given me Haskell circlejerk BS and I've put up with it
prisma wave
what is the point of these "convenience libraries" if you have to do everything yourself
jovial warren
also why are you using commons?
prisma wave
why not
jovial warren
because I've found it to be mostly unnecessary, especially when you've got Kotlin
prisma wave
yeah give me kotlin CircularFifoQueue then
and dont say write your own implementation
dont
obtuse gale
fifo bad
prisma wave
oh
obtuse gale
imily good
prisma wave
i thought you were going to say something funny
half harness
bomp?
obtuse gale
loll
jovial warren
yeah give me kotlin CircularFifoQueue then
I could give you an AbstractCircularFirstInFirstOutBlockingQueueBuilderFactoryProviderInstanceBean if you want
also, Circular? what is that meant to even mean?
prisma wave
not helpful
CircularFifoQueue is a first-in first-out queue with a fixed size that replaces its oldest element if full.
fixed size
jovial warren
ah okay
obtuse gale
cyclical
prisma wave
so the helpful people of helping chat have so far said "use broken library" and "bomp"
i love you guys
onyx loom
BOMP
half harness
:)
prisma wave
"better" discord
half harness
my gradle builds are taking 3+ minutes, is this normal 🥶
onyx loom
for ur pc yes
onyx loom
infact, that is excellent pace
prisma wave
classic
half harness
is there nothing i can do about it
obtuse gale
kali
onyx loom
kali say it
half harness
._.
prisma wave
return 1 + (level / 10) can someone calculate this if level is 20
ty
thanks
i got it
onyx loom
yes
half harness
what is this? it takes like 2 minutes
obtuse gale
`return 1 + (level / 10)` can someone calculate this if level is 20
lol...
onyx loom
Create Jar: Download maven-metadata.xml...
obtuse gale
what is this? it takes like 2 minutes
it's downloading maven-metadata.xml
prisma wave
idk, i think it's downloading maven-metadata.xml
half harness
why is it taking so long?
prisma wave
it's downloading it
obtuse gale
eXtremely Malicious Language
onyx loom
theres a lot of metadata 😃
obtuse gale
in xml format
onyx loom
and ur internet slow 😃
obtuse gale
you think?
onyx loom
idk have u tried downloading it faster
half harness
.
half harness
yes i do
distant sun
:))
onyx loom
gaby i used to say that to u all the time 😩
distant sun
:)
jovial warren
org.benf.cfr.reader.util.ConfusedCFRException: Started 2 blocks at once what an exception
ConfusedCFRException
oblique heath
seems sketchy
oblique heath
doesn't look like it
half harness
oblique heath
bitcoin is not anonymous enough for them, so of course they took the logical next step
minecraft accounts
onyx loom
😎
half harness
isn't crypto untraceable?
half harness
oh
prisma wave
suspend fun flow() = mutex.withLock { queue.iterator().asFlow() } anyone know if this will be "safe"
assuming queue is a non-thread-safe type
oblique heath
there's a 50/50 chance it's perfectly safe
prisma wave
🥲
half harness
mc accounts = against eula though
onyx loom
`suspend fun flow() = mutex.withLock { queue.iterator().asFlow() }` anyone know ...
im sorry ima have to do u with this
?tryandsee
compact perchBOT
FAQ Answer:
prisma wave
i hate you
oblique heath
mc accounts = against eula though
that's not stopping all those alt sellers is it now
onyx loom
i hate you
love u too
prisma wave
welp
actually
i guess it's probably safe to just take a copy and return that
no suspending locks needed
prisma wave
i despise all of you
onyx loom
love u too
prisma wave
https://x0.at/gIT.png cute 🥰
obtuse gale
🥲
steel heart
`suspend fun flow() = mutex.withLock { queue.iterator().asFlow() }` anyone know ...
Yeah it will be safe as long as you would use that lock when modifying the queue on another thread
or am I wrong?
prisma wave
all access uses the lock yes
idk enough about how locks and flows work to be able to say with confidence that will be safe
actually it probably will be fine
it's just ```kt
flow {
forEach { value ->
emit(value)
}
}
so nothing "continuous"
oh well, don't need it now anyway
also flows don't have any{} which is what i actually needed
steel heart
@prisma wave I mean usually when I want to use non thread safe data structures in a multi threaded environment I just wrap it with Collections.synchronized
prisma wave
<@!266973575225933824> I mean usually when I want to use non thread safe data st...
synchronization kinda breaks coroutines unfortunately
sweet cipher
Does it break daily routines?
ocean quartz
Pics or didn't happen 👀
lost forge
VLC has dark theme coming soon
Proof??
ocean quartz
Hmm actually don't really like the bar down there, I prefer the current one
old wyvern
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_time_scale
oh damn 👀
humble silo
In kotlin What is the best way to do final static fields like you would do in Java? Should you use a object and declare a const val, should you define it outside a class as a const var or should you do it as a companion object inside
ocean quartz
Top level constant
humble silo
const val METHOD_SELF: String = "";
outside the class?
More specifically in annotation classes?
ocean quartz
Like for example:
private const val CONSTANT = ""
class YourClass {
}
Or if you want if you want public constants, remove the private or create a Constants.kt and place it there
humble silo
Huh alr thanks
humble silo
Like for example:
```kt
private const val CONSTANT = ""
class YourClass {
}
```...
Placed where it is is that accessible to any other class? I dont have a great understanding of how constants or methods outside of classes work. Testing it, it seems that no other class can access that constant
distant sun
Top level constants are available to other classes
ocean quartz
If it's private then every class, function, etc, in the file is able to access it
If it's public it can be accessed everywhere (will ask you to import for example)
if it's internal it can only be accessed inside the same module
Also, was wondering what the difference between val and const val and it's just that const doesn't create a getter, it's direct access
Which makes me wonder why they only allow it for primitives
distant sun
If it's `private` then every class, function, etc, in the file is able to access...
Private?
ocean quartz
Forgot to add "in the file"
humble silo
If it's `private` then every class, function, etc, in the file is able to access...
ah, that feels really weird that there can just be floating methods and constants anywhere... How would you do a static util class? all top-level functions?
distant sun
Right, makes much more sense xd
distant sun
ah, that feels really weird that there can just be floating methods and constant...
Something.kt
ocean quartz
ah, that feels really weird that there can just be floating methods and constant...
Yeah, all top level
It's a bit odd at first but you get used to it then you actually start liking
distant sun
Today I wrote my first py script that is actually useful :D
oak raft
Which was?
ocean quartz
What do you think about it? I never really liked py
distant sun
Cool and weird at the same time
humble silo
Oh Matt sorry, If im doing a interface that just has constants(like you might do in java) The constants still go toplevel and i dont provide anything in the interface correct?
distant sun
Which was?
Create a prefix with gradient from a given set of colors and output the format for Essentials, TAB, or Vanilla (&R&R&G&G&B&B)
ocean quartz
Oh Matt sorry, If im doing a interface that just has constants(like you might do...
In that case they would go in the interface, or else there isn't really any point for the interface
distant sun
indent language
Not a fan of that either
forest pecan
yea
humble silo
In that case they would go in the interface, or else there isn't really any poin...
In a companion object?
ocean quartz
Yeah
humble silo
great!
distant sun
What I find amazing is the collection comprehension thing or however is called
old wyvern
Also, was wondering what the difference between `val` and `const val` and it's j...
They are inlined by the compiler, hence the restriction to primitives
ocean quartz
Yeah, single line on bytecode vs 4 lines for non const
old wyvern
Java inlines static final primitive stuff as well, so it probably exists for the same optimization
old wyvern
Yeah, single line on bytecode vs 4 lines for non const
Yea could be with properties
ocean quartz
Imagine if they added Sx's suggestion of something like
companion const val instead of needing the companion object block
humble silo
omg this is gonna be a pain... time to turn about a hundred java files into kotlin
letting IJ do the hard work i guess
old wyvern
Imagine if they added Sx's suggestion of something like
`companion const val` in...
😮 yea that would be really nice
old wyvern
omg this is gonna be a pain... time to turn about a hundred java files into kotl...
Why?
No point in converting what you already have
half harness
Also, was wondering what the difference between `val` and `const val` and it's j...
only primitives because it's replaced during compilation iirc
old wyvern
Just write new parts in kotlin
half harness
at least thats what i think the intellij error told me
humble silo
Why?
Cause i started writing it in Java and then dumb star convinced me to write in Kotlin
ily star
lol
old wyvern
Kotlin is built with slowly adding it to projects in mind
ocean quartz
only primitives because it's replaced during compilation iirc
Replaced?
humble silo
and it will only take an hour or two
old wyvern
Theres really no point chest
half harness
ok u win matt
humble silo
Theres really no point chest
It will look SO much better though
ocean quartz
humble silo
and just be easier to maintain
distant sun
Probably because primitives can just be wrote as they are, while other objects needs to be initialized
"Gaby" vs Gaby()
humble silo
If i dont have to worry about what file type it is
old wyvern
lol
ocean quartz
It's because of inlining like Yugi mentioned
old wyvern
As I said, you can develope in kotlin side by side
distant sun
Idk what inlining means
humble silo
Is there a reason not too if it wont take that long?
old wyvern
Youll probably end up with something worse if you rush it
old wyvern
Idk what inlining means
Compiler pretty much copy pastes the values to everywhere its used
humble silo
Ya thats a good point, ok ill just do like 5 files for now and see where that takes me
old wyvern
So theres no real variable
old wyvern
Ya thats a good point, ok ill just do like 5 files for now and see where that ta...
Yea that might be a good idea, slowly switch as you go
humble silo
sure
old wyvern
Unless this is a small project ig
ocean quartz
Chestly, IJ's converter is not really good, it's better to slowly convert as you go
If you convert everything it could break
old wyvern
^
ocean quartz
For example, you'll have tons of !!
old wyvern
Also matt ill setup the artifact on* the repo today, hopefully gradle approves today 🥲
humble silo
Chestly, IJ's converter is not really good, it's better to slowly convert as you...
Ive kinda found that out, atleast it gives me a base to work off i guess... For now ill just do a couple files by hand then do more as i work on it
old wyvern
Also actually forgot to hook up the relocator to the configuration class I think 😂
Need to do that as well
ocean quartz
Nice
I hope so too
Adding the lib automatically should be pretty easy once they do
Just need to figure if it's publishing the shadow jar or not, which I don't think it is, i forgot to disable the jar task 😩
old wyvern
😬
Will it be an issue later on if we dont have shadowjar rn?
Because otherwise we can publish that after approval right?
old wyvern
lol
forest pecan
people building using jitpack be like
humble silo
Wow kotlin is very nice, this class was just made alot shorter
ocean quartz
Will it be an issue later on if we dont have shadowjar rn?
Not really, shouldn't be an issue, just easier to publish if i can
And yeah we can always publish after approval, since first version is incomplete anyways
ocean quartz
Wow kotlin is very nice, this class was just made alot shorter
Ikr, as you go you'll find more and more nice things about it
humble silo
Cant wait!
old wyvern
Not really, shouldn't be an issue, just easier to publish if i can
And yeah we c...
Ahh lit
old wyvern
Wow kotlin is very nice, this class was just made alot shorter
Drop builders btw
Its an anti pattern in kotlin
humble silo
Whats the alternative?
half harness
arrays 🤢
old wyvern
named arguments
humble silo
example?
obtuse gale
jitpack is down right now
classic
old wyvern
MixingDestination(
method = "someThing",
sources = arrayOf(...),
)
method: String = "something"
old wyvern
Forgive the formatting, im on phone, not sure how it looks on pc
old wyvern
method: String = "something"
Thats a construction call dkim
humble silo
Forgive the formatting, im on phone, not sure how it looks on pc
Formatting is fine! What if i want to add sources to it one by one instead of passing a set?
forest pecan
whats the organization that provides free repo hosting for mc projects?
hallow crane
codemc
forest pecan
ty
ocean quartz
Could also create a builder function
buildMaxin {
method = "something"
sources = arraysOf(...)
}
"
half harness
"
humble silo
Could also create a builder function
```kt
buildMaxin {
method = "something"
...
Isnt the point i wanna avoid a builder?
old wyvern
Formatting is fine! What if i want to add sources to it one by one instead of pa...
Build the array separately
humble silo
Why is a builder a anti pattern while in java its extremely common?
ocean quartz
Depends, there are still some usage for builders in Kotlin
Like the buildString (mirrors StringBuilder) or buildList
old wyvern
Why is a builder a anti pattern while in java its extremely common?
Because of named arguments
humble silo
which are?
humble silo
oh that, ok i just didnt know what they were called
old wyvern
Builders are used in java to make construction more meaningful when a class has a large amounts of dependencies
ocean quartz
For example:
class Test(private val name: String, private val age: Int)
Test(age = 5, name = "Hello")
Test(name = "Hello", age = 5)
In java it's not possible
old wyvern
Here you get the same, without the extra work
humble silo
Builders are used in java to make construction more meaningful when a class has ...
A builder is really meant to provide a way to concisely create an object that might have alot of optional values, in effective java he provides an example of a nutrition label where there are 2 required parts of it and the rest are optional. In my case i require the user to provide a method but they can optionally provide as many sources as they want. I feel like that applies by the same rule but you could defintely just pass in a array
old wyvern
A builder is really meant to provide a way to concisely create an object that mi...
Yes kotlin also has default values for functions
obtuse gale
default parameter values are great
humble silo
Yes kotlin also has default values for functions
Example?
ocean quartz
default parameter values are great
After using it, it's so much pain to go to Java and write multiple constructors or methods just for simple values 😩
old wyvern
class Human(
val name: String = "Joe",
val age:Int,
)
val alonso = Human(name = "Alonso Church" , age = 60)
alonso.name // "Alonso Church"
val joe = Human(age= 20)
joe.name // "Joe"
Sure i get that example, but what if you have a array list like accomplishements that people should be able to add to that then build it have it be immutable
old wyvern
That array should be built before the construction of the class
humble silo
why is the builder pattern wrong then?
obtuse gale
is it just me or did jetbrains tone down the hsv/hsb of the splash screen in IJ/WS/CL/etc?
they feel much less aggressive lol
ocean quartz
Splash screen? ;o
obtuse gale
lol
ocean quartz
Lmao
obtuse gale
Splash screen? ;o
this
ocean quartz
Ah yeah, i noticed is a lot more pastel as well
half harness
why is the builder pattern wrong then?
btw u can do ```kt
val mixin: MixinDestination = MixinDestination("method", arrayOf(MixinSource(), MixinSource(), MixinSource())
half harness
btw u can do ```kt
val mixin: MixinDestination = MixinDestination("method", arra...
also why not use a list instead of an array 😛
humble silo
btw u can do ```kt
val mixin: MixinDestination = MixinDestination("method", arra...
alr ya i guess that is pretty easy
ocean quartz
Is there a new IJ version?
ocean quartz
I had this
ocean quartz
I've been using early releases for some time so it's constantly updating, so never know when a full release is out
Had a lot of issues that were all fixed in the early releases
empty pasture
can someone help me change the permissions in a smp server im in cause im confused on how to change the perms
help please
obtuse gale
Sir this is #dev-general
#general-plugins / #general-plugins-2 and name the permissions plugin you use
empty pasture
sorry i didnt know LMAO
obtuse gale
wtf is a MethodHandle
cinder flare
not really but what's up
hot hull
I mean don't really need someone really smart, just need some suggestions regarding what would be best for performance
So I need to call a method whenever a player is near a specific player, (within 20 blocks), how and in what way would be the most optimal for this, do I just listen to move event and loopty loop constantly, or would it make more sense to have a runnable and lose on some accuracy because of it
cinder flare
hmm yeah I'd go with runnable like every 10 ticks or something
plus that bad boy can be async
ocean quartz
Runnable would be better, move event triggers more often
hot hull
Yea fair enough
jovial warren
So I need to call a method whenever a player is near a specific player, (within ...
Could probably get away with listening async
Since you're only reading, not writing
Also, when you wake up this morning and realise the CI is offline, only to find out that you have last month's and this month's bill unpaid 🥲
old wyvern
Holy shit lmao, man didnt even check the assignment xD
I didnt write anything, submitted jsut for attendence
ez marks
hot hull
lol
cinder flare
ah yeah in class activities are usually just participation points
old wyvern
They arent for us
lunar cypress
Meanwhile my algorithms tutor detracts points from my score because in his mind addition is O(0) Pepega
old wyvern
lmao
lunar cypress
according to him, this:
def f(n):
if n < 2:
return n
...
is O(0) for n = 0 and O(1) for n = 1
the mad man is defying the laws of mathematics
prisma wave
what
prisma wave
sorry
hot hull
I'm fucking dissapointed
prisma wave
🙄 🙄
jovial warren
BomBardyGamer authored and BomBardyGamer committed lol
this is why you don’t use Git and repl.it lol
steel heart
@prisma wave nice pfp
jovial warren
no
steel heart
Yes
jovial warren
also, can I please get some opinions on using an exectutor service for loading and saving worlds here? https://github.com/KryptonMC/Krypton/blob/master/server/src/main/kotlin/org/kryptonmc/krypton/world/KryptonWorldManager.kt#L42
prisma wave
<@!266973575225933824> nice pfp
Thanks
hot hull
I support this Bardy
steel heart
Maybe wanna use some lock mechanism assuming you load and save world files async
I just scrolled through it so yeah might have missed smtng
prisma wave
Future<*> 🤣
jovial warren
world files are loaded async, yeah
prisma wave
🤣 🤣 🤣
jovial warren
Future<*> 🤣
yeah the submit that takes a runnable returns that, if I want Future<Unit> then I need to use callable
old wyvern
// also means I don't declare extra unnecessary integers on the stack
OpTiMizAtIoN: 💯
xD
jovial warren
yeah ignore that BS lol
there’s literally a comment there saying it’s likely BS, especially if that’s const val ONE
prisma wave
yeah the submit that takes a runnable returns that, if I want Future<Unit> then ...
Coroutines are a thing
jovial warren
yeah ik, not why I made it
jovial warren
Coroutines are a thing
bUt jAVa ComPaTIbIliTY
old wyvern
Why is it a wildcard btw?
jovial warren
idk, ask Java
jovial warren
yeah the submit that takes a runnable returns that, if I want Future<Unit> then ...
.
not my fault
old wyvern
What type is saveAll?
jovial warren
no clue
old wyvern
You didnt write it?
old wyvern
ah
jovial warren
though I might be able to make that async when it’s auto saving
old wyvern
I think you can specify the generic as Unit there and let it act like a callable tbh
jovial warren
maybe
the world manager’s load returns Future<out World> so I can have it return Future<KryptonWorld> in the implementation, and I moved the save into the World interface itself so you can define custom behaviour to save custom world formats
because the API is obviously implementation agnostic, even though it’ll likely only be implemented by Krypton
oh also, you know how in Bukkit, chunk objects can load themselves? do you think that’s a good idea or should I leave the ability to load chunks to the world object that contains and manages them?
or I guess I could create a new chunk manager interface that every world has
old wyvern
Probably just let the world manage it
jovial warren
since on the backend, the chunk manager is the one managing chunks, not the world
and chunks only exist as chunk objects once they’ve been loaded anyway, so making chunk objects load themselves is impossible
oh btw, going back to the world executor, is it worth making it fixed size or should I leave it to potentially grow infinitely? (currently a cached thread pool)
or maybe I could create a DynamicResizableCachedThreadPoolExecutor that can be resized based on how many worlds there are
old wyvern
Id say fixed size
jovial warren
since I kinda want a cached thread pool with an upper limit on how many threads there can be
jovial warren
lol
steel heart
onyx loom
kotlin... bad?
old wyvern
Ofc not, Kotlin just bad
jovial warren
lol
old wyvern
I mean tbh I've never gotten this bug with Java, but have gotten this same thing multiple times with kotlin
Might be worth reporting
idk
jovial warren
yeah I’ve had issues with IJ just not highlighting files with broken code at all until I either fix the broken code or restart
jovial warren
Kotlin is harder to highlight anyway because of how vastly superior it is in terms of features to Java
old wyvern
Just 1 patch behind it seems
jovial warren
and Kotlin being superior in features is just a fact btw
old wyvern
There is no big ass "superior" feature thats hard to parse in here
jovial warren
the whole confusion with blocks and having to determine where the end of the line is, etc. sounds like it could cause problems
steel heart
And it gets better
old wyvern
the whole confusion with blocks and having to determine where the end of the lin...
What confusion with blocks?
jovial warren
like where everything starts and ends
old wyvern
Line end is not anything hard to detect, parser just checks for newline if an expression is complete
jovial warren
gotta check the expression though and determine if it is in fact complete
old wyvern
These are things many languages have infact
old wyvern
gotta check the expression though and determine if it is in fact complete
There in no going through and checking specifically for ends
its part of building the syntax tree
jovial warren
hmm, idk then
old wyvern
Probably just some minor bug in the plugin
jovial warren
probably a small bug where IJ just gets confused when an error is thrown and freaks the fuck out
onyx loom
kotlin bad
prisma wave
gotta check the expression though and determine if it is in fact complete
What does that even mean
jovial warren
kotlin bad
jovial warren
What does that even mean
wdym?
old wyvern
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ0wKv5CPtA
jovial warren
Lol
jovial warren
Lol
obtuse gale
pfp 👀
cinder flare
ik BM's looking kinda cute now 👀
obtuse gale
lol the commit message https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/commit/81cc4f9280378f07456e7cbb0d0b1087aee8a743
are you fucking kidding me
you can't Player#chat in another thread
that's next level stupid
lost forge
Lol
hot hull
lol
old wyvern
lol
old wyvern
weeb mitten bad?
obtuse gale
soldier 🥺
quiet depot
weeb mitten bad
hot hull
Says a literal pig
cinder flare
i mean soldier kinda slaps, he has a point
though this new pfp is kinda cute and reminds me of Pulse's
though a bit brighter
cinder flare
new Emily pfp coming soon???
lost forge
we'll see we'll see
Do it.
frail glade
No relationship advice this morning? Unfortunate.
old wyvern
Its also currently the only thing that can load a class into current classloader without an exposed addURL or that classloader being a custom classloader
🥲
obtuse gale
o?
old wyvern
Yea, theres a limitation tho
You must have a class in the same package as the class to be defined in your application's module
cinder flare
No relationship advice this morning? Unfortunate.
I know right? Forever alone 
prisma wave
<@!266973575225933824> wheres that from
No idea
One of my irl friends changed to it so I copied it to mock them
Because anime profile pictures deserve bullying
cinder flare
good thing mine's not from an anime 😉
onyx loom
pulse crying inside rn
forest pecan
its not even an anime...
cinder flare
close enough?
forest pecan
anime girls are way worse than this
prisma wave
<@!266973575225933824> i don't condone the new pfp
Me neither
Although
Soldier is getting a bit old
quiet depot
spy time?
forest pecan
if you bully me for my pfp Kaliber i will bully you for having no developer role
/s
onyx loom
ok time to apply
onyx loom
ok time to get bullied for a month or 2
forest pecan
lmao
onyx loom
or 3 or 4... when i get denied :kekw: