some things in kotlin with allman just arent as nice
#dev-general
onyx loom
errant geyser
Good god wtf is that
onyx loom
im sorry 😔
onyx loom
please forgive me if i do bm
errant geyser
k&r is the superior style
old wyvern
You need to track down deffered functions and where you defer them to find the error handling functions
lunar cypress
Go error handling is the greatest of all time, clearly. Can't be bad if there is none
prisma wave
go error handling sounds good on paper until you've got 300 if err != nil {}
lunar cypress
Do you panic in recoverable situations
cinder flare
k&r is the superior style
yes OTB is, as the name implies, the one true bracket
old wyvern
Some times yes Johnny
onyx loom
i am still yet to write a program in go which is kinda sad
old wyvern
Thats why they added defers
cinder flare
I would literally rather be homeless and not have a job than have a job where I have to use allman
old wyvern
Thag and to handle releasing system resources as well I think
errant geyser
i am still yet to write a program in go which is kinda sad
That was me like 2 weeks ago. Im doing that project euler thingy to learn and play around
onyx loom
o whats that
prisma wave
maths puzzles sorta thing
onyx loom
ew maths
errant geyser
BM suggested it in some server, its a maths puzzle thingy u can get the answers with code
cinder flare
I should probably do some of those for Kotlin
prisma wave
u can usually brute force them but sometimes you have to be clever
cinder flare
I need to get more used to it
prisma wave
it's quite good for learning new languages
cinder flare
CoC's are painful
old wyvern
CoC is awesome
onyx loom
can u link pls @errant geyser
old wyvern
Best way to learn
cinder flare
well yeah I love them
cinder flare
but i mean I just suck balls at Kotlin
errant geyser
projecteuler.org I think Kali
cinder flare
so I take like 10 minutes to use a basic solution lol
onyx loom
🥲
old wyvern
Theres a coursera course thats sums up the major functions and stuff you need to remember if that helps
errant geyser
can u link pls <@!216999915346198528>
old wyvern
Kotlin for Java developers
onyx loom
ah, ty
cinder flare
i just need to wrap my brain around functional shit and all the nice methods of kotlin lol
i still think the default java way
old wyvern
Yea it goes through that star
cinder flare
hmmm okay
dark fjord
Generally speaking. Is it more optimal to have one world with 100 people in it, or 4 worlds with 25 in each?
old wyvern
PluralSight also has an amazing course on haskell if you wanna give it a shot
cinder flare
ooh and it's free right now right!
old wyvern
1 month free from some VS thing
cinder flare
Generally speaking. Is it more optimal to have one world with 100 people in it, ...
worlds hardly matter. servers are a huge differnece
jovial warren
actually not true
ocean quartz
That's quite dope, the syntax isn't as nice as Kotlin's but this is really cool
jovial warren
it's the whole many players in the same world that Minecraft whines about
cinder flare
oh so multiverse is the solution Bardy? lmao
jovial warren
no
jovial warren
the server is still an issue
prisma wave
package main
import "fmt"
type Mapper func(interface{}) interface{}
func mapSlice(fun Mapper, coll []interface{}) []interface{} {
new := make([]interface{}, len(coll))
for i, elem := range coll {
new[i] = fun(elem)
}
return new
}
func main() {
arr := []interface{}{1, 2, 3, 4}
var mapper Mapper = func(x interface{}) interface{} { return x.(int) + 1 }
res := mapSlice(mapper, arr)
fmt.Println(res)
}
i made it work
this is unbelievably cursed
forest pecan
well server is going to have overhead sure ig
lunar cypress
Horrendous
jovial warren
the solution, Star, is Krypton 😎
prisma wave
cinder flare
lmao
forest pecan
lmao
errant geyser
BM wtf have you done
cinder flare
maybe if it actually saves blocks some day
prisma wave
BM wtf have you done
map function in go
jovial warren
```go
package main
import "fmt"
type Mapper func(interface{}) interface{}
fun...
no way that's functional
forest pecan
maybe if it becomes a proxy one day
cinder flare
yeah the dream is to have 4 servers with a proxy
prisma wave
no way that's functional
go is technically functional
jovial warren
maybe if it becomes a proxy one day
I plan to actually make my own proxy at some point
prisma wave
it fits all of the criteria
cinder flare
that's how you get performance
jovial warren
go is technically functional
I meant functional as in works
cinder flare
I plan to actually make my own proxy at some point
what's it gonna be called
forest pecan
Kroxy
old wyvern
it fits all of the criteria
Wait what?
prisma wave
I meant functional as in works
Oh right, yeah it is
dark fjord
Is bungee the only way to go cross-servers?
old wyvern
How do you mean bm?
lunar cypress
No
cinder flare
Is bungee the only way to go cross-servers?
Velocity is the best way afaik
obtuse gale
prisma wave
How do you mean bm?
First class functions
old wyvern
But other than that there isnt anything else afaik
prisma wave
isn't that technically all you need?
old wyvern
Immutability and stuff as well
cinder flare
Aurora
can I work on Aurora. I know a bit about networking and I think writing a proxy would be cool af
prisma wave
the primitives aren't immutable but you could make your own immutable types
cinder flare
ohhhh yeahhhh
jovial warren
I know fuck all about proxies, so it'll be good to have another person on board to give me a hand lol
old wyvern
the primitives aren't immutable but you could make your own immutable types
But I mean in that sense Java could be a functional language as well tho
jovial warren
well, I know how they work ofc, but idk how to implement them
prisma wave
But I mean in that sense Java could be a functional language as well tho
Well yeah, technically it is
cinder flare
and I can say I contributed to a sick af named project
lunar cypress
When none of the core tools and libraries of a language are functional it's a good indicator that the language isn't
jovial warren
might actually make the API somewhat shared between both
ocean quartz
@prisma wave This actually works, wtf
cinder flare
When none of the core tools and libraries of a language are functional it's a go...
java Streams 👀
prisma wave
When none of the core tools and libraries of a language are functional it's a go...
Yeah that's true - I'm just talking purely hypothetically
old wyvern
Go with absolutely no library suppourt be like
onyx loom
<@!266973575225933824> This actually works, wtf
delete this
jovial warren
<@!266973575225933824> This actually works, wtf
no
fucking
way
prisma wave
<@!266973575225933824> This actually works, wtf
wtf
old wyvern
Go: You want dynamic arrays?? Fuck you
cinder flare
<@!266973575225933824> This actually works, wtf
that makes me uncomfy
lunar cypress
That's definitely a joke
old wyvern
That works johnny
prisma wave
Cljotlin makes a return?
lunar cypress
Or in that case just random parens and infix functions
lunar cypress
Not generally applicable
old wyvern
.
jovial warren
prefix notation what the actual fuck
old wyvern
Oh abc and ghi are infix?
cinder flare
dude I did some lisp when I was doing the MIT CS50 thing and wow I'm getting flashbacks
ocean quartz
old wyvern
Whats abc and ghi matt
prisma wave
Variables
prisma wave
Yeah
ocean quartz
infix fun Any.abc(x: Any) = ""
infix fun Any.ghi(x: Any) = listOf("abc", "def", "ghi", "jkl")
Lmao
prisma wave
It's clever but really not practical
errant geyser
I know fuck all about proxies, so it'll be good to have another person on board ...
You rewriting bungee now?
cinder flare
that's the plan, yes
lunar cypress
I told you
old wyvern
Someone wrote like a class full of compose functions for siff arities
lunar cypress
late april fools
old wyvern
🥲
old wyvern
late april fools
Yup rip
lunar cypress
almost made me install kotlin
jovial warren
You rewriting bungee now?
for a bit of fun, yeah
lunar cypress
Can't find a download anymore though
old wyvern
Just install the plugin on ij
prisma wave
that's the plan, yes
if I may make a suggestion, apart from the IO a proxy is functionally pure meaning a language like elixir or clojure would be perfect and would scale extremely well!!!
lunar cypress
I'm not having IJ here
old wyvern
Ah
cinder flare
if I may make a suggestion, apart from the IO a proxy is functionally pure meani...
lol I think we're gonna stick with Kotlin for the API's and stuff and easy compat between that and Krypton
also I don't know any functional languages
prisma wave
Isn't there a standalone version
kotlinc?
lunar cypress
yeah
prisma wave
lol I think we're gonna stick with Kotlin for the API's and stuff and easy compa...
☹️ ☹️
lunar cypress
where do you get that
prisma wave
I will port it to clojure
cinder flare
haha
prisma wave
where do you get that
Sdkman has it if you've got that
Probably the easiest way of getting it
lunar cypress
not sure I can manage another installation today
old wyvern
lunar cypress
emacs 27.2 has drained me
old wyvern
Try building it john
lunar cypress
oh hell no
old wyvern
Lol
old wyvern
emacs 27.2 has drained me
I highly recommend elm
lunar cypress
built emacs from source, took 25 minutes, kotlins probably gonna take a couple minutes as well
old wyvern
Even the installer was the easiest
Installing haskell and stack was... Well...
Cumbersome
lunar cypress
quite simple 5Head
prisma wave
the only 2 I know of are ghcup and rustup
old wyvern
Oh it installs stack?
prisma wave
😩
old wyvern
ghc had me use chocolatey
prisma wave
The curse of windows
cinder flare
oh boy chocolatey
old wyvern
Now I have a bunch of haskell suppourt things taking up like 20 gb on my C drive
Might uninstall that just for the space
lunar cypress
windows installations are a lot of fun
prisma wave
windows installations are possibly the worst way you could spend your time
lunar cypress
you'll never know which nonsense you'll be expected to install
old wyvern
🥲
lunar cypress
I remember trying to install ghc on windows before knowing wsl and without choco
that was a hell of a ride
prisma wave
Sounds painful
cinder flare
mmmm wsl and llvm go brrr
old wyvern
💀
lunar cypress
I ended up building some huge C++ libraries I think
old wyvern
Choco does the same i think john
lunar cypress
no choco definitely doesn't build everything from source
old wyvern
Oh it took me so long tho
lunar cypress
did it
old wyvern
Yea
old wyvern
Pretty good
old wyvern
Its an Omen
lunar cypress
but maybe it reused the built stuff from before
wait no that can't be right
man I can't remember if I have haskell installed currently
old wyvern
Check the cmd ig
old wyvern
Ah ok
old wyvern
Im thinking on installing Manjaro but hesitant coz i feel like ill mess something up
lunar cypress
windows takes up so many resources
Yeah I also considered Majaro but I figured I wouldn't have the nerves for an arch-based distro
old wyvern
I think bm said it sets up most of the stuff itself
lunar cypress
yeah I bet
prisma wave
yea it does
lunar cypress
do you still have to update everything every week
prisma wave
how do you mean?
lunar cypress
isn't that a thing with arch
old wyvern
Would allocating just like 100GB or something to it be okay?
cinder flare
sudo pacman -Syu
prisma wave
Would allocating just like 100GB or something to it be okay?
You probably only need like 30GB so sure
old wyvern
I mean should I give it a bit more if I would be installing more things onto it
cinder flare
are you dual booting Yugi?
cinder flare
if you do, you can use your windows drive from linux
old wyvern
🥲
cinder flare
that's what I do
old wyvern
Wdym?
cinder flare
so I still have access to all my shit
old wyvern
Isnt the file system different?
cinder flare
well yeah you need a spot for your linux stuff
prisma wave
@lunar cypress there's usually like 1-2 packages that can be updated every day (i check regularly out of habit), most are just as painless as APT, only problem is occasionally stuff from the AUR can take a while if you're building from source (eg chrome)
old wyvern
Ah
prisma wave
Yea most Linux distros can read NTFS
cinder flare
<@234343108773412864> there's usually like 1-2 packages that can be updated ever...
or use yay or another AUR manager and don't build from source yourself?
prisma wave
no I am
but afaik some AUR packages compile from source
or at least they take long enough that I assume that's what they're doing
old wyvern
Im thinking of moving things likr IJ and VS to the linux installation so I can keep windows purely for whag I find it more useful in coz I got only like 256GB on the c drive
cinder flare
oh none that I've seen from an AUR manager
prisma wave
there's only like 3
old wyvern
So only 30-50 gb left on there with everything installrd
prisma wave
which are all chrome / electron etc afaik lol
cinder flare
yay only downloads pre-compiled binaries afaik
lunar cypress
what would you say are advantages of majaro compared to something debian-/ubuntu-based
like what reason might be considerable for me as someone who isn't really into any of this to use the former
cinder flare
AUR
prisma wave
^
cinder flare
Debian kinda slaps tho, but it is annoying to get packages that you need to be newer
I dislike Canonical because of their practices but I guess ubuntu is okay
it's quite easy
though Manjaro also is
cinder flare
oh yeah
old wyvern
How is the ui on Manjaro?
cinder flare
and the Arch wiki has everything you'll ever need
prisma wave
How is the ui on Manjaro?
Depends on the DE you use
cinder flare
Manjaro has a very nice DE from what I've seen of it
errant geyser
Im thinking on installing Manjaro but hesitant coz i feel like ill mess somethin...
Manjaro's cool
prisma wave
Manjaro has a very nice DE from what I've seen of it
i mean, there's like 7 different flavours
old wyvern
Oh you can change them?
prisma wave
yeah
cinder flare
oh yeah I meant the XFCE
yeah Yugi it's linux, you can install anything on anything
errant geyser
How is the ui on Manjaro?
The UI is fine, you can customise it to whatever you want anyway
lunar cypress
XFCE is pretty basic, I'm running it on Mint
lunar cypress
But it's the right fit for me because it's very lightweight
cinder flare
I personally run KDE Plasma on my arch setup
old wyvern
yeah Yugi it's linux, you can install anything on anything
From what I've heard all limux distros dont allow that
Atleast not easily
prisma wave
huh
cinder flare
any linux distro allows you to run any linux software on it
prisma wave
Afaik you can just remove the package and install a new DE and it pretty much "just works"
old wyvern
I see
humble silo
Star, Do you live in discord or something?? How often are you on?
cinder flare
pretty often
old wyvern
Hes a bot
cinder flare
i just constantly rewatch she-ra and troll the discord
errant geyser
Most of these guys have discord open 24/7
cinder flare
it's my purpose in life
old wyvern
=star --version
cinder flare
@old wyvern 4.3.99
humble silo
it's my purpose in life
How do you get anything done?
errant geyser
i just constantly rewatch she-ra and troll the discord
What is she-ra? I have a friend who's obsessed with it
old wyvern
=star annoy @humble silo
humble silo
?
lunar cypress
How do you get anything done?
whose parent is this
humble silo
lol
cinder flare
What is she-ra? I have a friend who's obsessed with it
It's a reboot of the original She-Ra from the 1980's, it is my favorite show ever. Excellent plot and character development, great story, makes you cry, awesome art style.
I can't praise it enough
It's on Netflix too
And it's what my pfp is
old wyvern
She-Ra sounds like a gender swapped Egyptian god
cinder flare
ocean quartz
@prisma wave Dude is now writing poetry
https://github.com/abreslav/other/tree/master/Стихи
errant geyser
Fuckin weeb
cinder flare
It's not anime?
ocean quartz
You weebs and your anime profile pic, disgusting
errant geyser
Isnt it?
cinder flare
haha
no lol
made in america
It's literally an american cartoon reboot
originally based off of He-Man
humble silo
What is it called?
errant geyser
Kekw Yugi
cinder flare
She-Ra and the Princesses of Power
humble silo
the show?
cinder flare
yea
cinder flare
well you don't pronounce it like Ra
cinder flare
it's just she-ruh
cinder flare
Weeeeelll it looks like it from my brief Google search
the left is the original 1980's one and right is present day
and they're both American cartoons lol
so I don't know what to tell you I guess
errant geyser
How do you type 3 sentences per second
cinder flare
I type 180 wpm
lunar cypress
my man has never seen a cartoon
cinder flare
my man has never seen a cartoon
haha seems like it
old wyvern
The animation style looks like an anime
lunar cypress
what
cinder flare
It's kind of inspired by anime, I'll admit
but if you watch an episode of the show it's not very similar
plus it's in english
lunar cypress
gross
errant geyser
my man has never seen a cartoon
The cartoon i used to watch was Tom & Jerry, it doesn't look anything like that
old wyvern
Isnt tom and jerry getting a live action movie now?
errant geyser
16
errant geyser
Isnt tom and jerry getting a live action movie now?
I might actually watch that
cinder flare
lmao
errant geyser
you know cats, mice and people don't look alike
Welcome to furry con
lunar cypress
lol
cinder flare
I guess if you don't get the original, you won't really understand the vibe of the remake
old wyvern
I think regular show was the last cartoon I've seen
cinder flare
Cause it borrows most characters from the original
Just remastered and with an actual story lol
lunar cypress
The last one I've seen is Bojack Horseman I think
Hands down one of the best shows I've ever watched
old wyvern
Whats that about?
cinder flare
yeah one of my roommates loves that show
lunar cypress
It's about a depressed actor whose good days are over and whose life catches up with him
old wyvern
Ah
cinder flare
most of them are animals lol
lunar cypress
yeah canonically, but I mean like from what they look like
old wyvern
A literal horse
cinder flare
yeah there's like a horse, a cat, a guy, some other horses and stuff
old wyvern
Lol
cinder flare
i dunno i saw like 1 episode and got bored
lunar cypress
I thought it wasn't that great in the first 2-3 episodes but I really got into it
errant geyser
Should we go to #off-topic before Matto comes back orrrr
prisma wave
<@!266973575225933824> Dude is now writing poetry
<https://github.com/abreslav/o...
he's gone insane
old wyvern
If we go to #off-topic wouldnt #off-topic be off topic
sweet cipher
If you all want a real show ask Vision to talk.
cinder flare
haha
ocean quartz
Should we go to <#164523548390457355> before Matto comes back orrrr
What?
errant geyser
^
ocean quartz
There is a difference between a support channel and a general channel
errant geyser
I wasn't there but what he said
old wyvern
"Hi, Ive got an offer for you, remake windows for me and ill give you a 1% share. Deal?"
sweet cipher
Call it Doors instead and we have a deal
cinder flare
"Hi, Ive got an offer for you, remake windows for me and ill give you a 1% share...
the problem being: why would I ever want to remake windows?
errant geyser
What are you thinking?? You're overpaying by at least 1%
old wyvern
True
lunar cypress
"Hi, Ive got an offer for you, remake windows for me and ill give you a 1% share...
yeah hold on I'll start an open source project that sounds fancy and wait for microsoft to conquer it
cinder flare
someone literally reverse engineered like Windows XP
it's called like ReactOS or something
lunar cypress
the source code got leaked I think?
cinder flare
well no like they are completely open source reverse engineering it
building windows from the ground up, it's kinda carzy
sweet cipher
Don’t let Microsoft steal Krypton
cinder flare
haha
errant geyser
Theyre more likely to sue him than buy Krypton
lunar cypress
dark web
old wyvern
gitstub
sweet cipher
Quick everyone unstar
old wyvern
Gitgood
jovial warren
<@266294134116057089>
nooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
errant geyser
Idk who this person is but whoever theyre prosecuting is fucked, huh
sweet cipher
Lol
jovial warren
Quick everyone unstar
🤬
lunar cypress
Idk who this person is but whoever theyre prosecuting is fucked, huh
LOL
you got that messed up
lunar cypress
it's the other way around
errant geyser
o.0
jovial warren
It’s for your own good. We can’t have Microsoft steal Krypton.
I will never let that happen
ever
lunar cypress
she's being prosecuted for sex trafficking children
errant geyser
Well, whoever that is, is completely fucked
sweet cipher
Not even for “10 billion” dollars?
errant geyser
Ah ok
lunar cypress
jeffrey epstein ring a bell?
cinder flare
Idk who this person is but whoever theyre prosecuting is fucked, huh
yeah that's jeffrey epsteins girlfriend
errant geyser
she's being prosecuted for sex trafficking children
Deserves it then. Still, 3 million pages is like, you may as well fire your defence because they can't do shit kinda levels of evidence
sweet cipher
Just burn the evidence, nobody will know
errant geyser
🤔
sweet cipher
Or ask the court nicely to let you go and say it won’t happen again
errant geyser
Or ask the court nicely to let you go and say it won’t happen again
Welcome to the British justice system
lunar cypress
pinky promise
sweet cipher
Or tell them you know Microsoft and they are going to sue them if they don’t let them go
cinder flare
oh shit yeah your dad works at Microsoft
sweet cipher
Lots of options
cinder flare
he's gonna get the judges banned from xbox live
sweet cipher
AGAIN?
errant geyser
Or tell them you know Microsoft and they are going to sue them if they don’t let...
Wow
What if I know Amazon instead
errant geyser
Not quite as reputable
What if I say I know Elara
lunar cypress
sweet cipher
Or tell them you are a YouTuber and will get your fans to hate them
sweet cipher
What if I say I know Elara
Maybe if BM was a judge
prisma wave
I am a judge
errant geyser
I can actually imagine like an 8 year old screaming "I am a YouTube, my fans will hate you!!" Down the mic in a CoD lobby with a name like xX__EpikGamezYT__Xx
sweet cipher
I could see an adult doing that honestly
sweet cipher
I am a judge
You could be THE judge
old wyvern
xXx_xXx
errant geyser
Maybe if BM was a judge
Senpai is THE judge actually
sweet cipher
Just have to intimate everyone else with your random coding language knowledge.
errant geyser
As Supreme Leader he'd organise public events to talk about stuff like this
The population would have to live in fear of his immense power
old wyvern
data judge = Brister | Mitten
lunar cypress
they'd cut his head off hopefully
cinder flare
damn
sweet cipher
He would code another one
cinder flare
guillotine for bm
lunar cypress
aight I'm off for today
cinder flare
night johnny!
errant geyser
Farewell
cinder flare
good talk today boys
onyx loom
bed time for johnny at 1:40am (i think), weak
bed time for yugi at 3:40am (i think), weak
old wyvern
2:40
errant geyser
good talk today boys
Went from: Whenever I look at myself I cry to Hahaha BM rules a country. How does that even happen
onyx loom
oh right yeah our clocks went forward, that would make sense i think
sweet cipher
Went from: Whenever I look at myself I cry to Hahaha BM rules a country. How doe...
Actually it went to BM rules a world
old wyvern
BM unleashes the Maybe Monad
errant geyser
UwU
cinder flare
all beings will be PURE and FUNCTIONAL
sweet cipher
Removes classes from all programming languages
old wyvern
Justice shall be served
cinder flare
inb4 a mass genocide of non-pure humans
old wyvern
You should just create a copy of yourself when infected instead
sweet cipher
Vulnerable to viruses
Good thing we don’t have viruses in our word
sweet cipher
awe shit imagine if our dna was immutable
I think we would all die
cinder flare
wdym
old wyvern
No we wouldnt
cinder flare
our dna should never change
old wyvern
We would be immune to covid
errant geyser
??
cinder flare
covid is not DNA-based lol
old wyvern
Fp masterrace?
sweet cipher
our dna should never change
Then what clothes would it wear to work?
cinder flare
Then what clothes would it wear to work?
swimsuit
old wyvern
covid is not DNA-based lol
All viruses require being added to our genome for replication
errant geyser
Now this gamer tries too hard in biology
sweet cipher
Trust me I know what I am talking about, I read it online
old wyvern
We dont need mutation in ourselves
cinder flare
oh shit wtf i guess viruses do affect dna
old wyvern
Thats asking for cancer and stuff
sweet cipher
Isn’t DNA copied from our parents?
cinder flare
and random mutations
old wyvern
Isn’t DNA copied from our parents?
Not perfectly
cinder flare
but you could still have those when creating new dna
old wyvern
Mhm
cinder flare
just the original copy is immutable
sweet cipher
Not perfectly
So that means it changes
cinder flare
no the source file is unchangeable
sweet cipher
But then DNA wouldn’t be immutable
old wyvern
This "mutation" is an error while copying
sweet cipher
What creates DNA?
old wyvern
Not mutation in the sense we mean
cinder flare
anything new you make from it is changeable
old wyvern
What creates DNA?
Like replication?
cinder flare
What creates DNA?
IAbstractDNAFactoryBuilder
sweet cipher
Yeah
old wyvern
Something about transcriptase or something
cinder flare
11th and 12th years in school?
old wyvern
Yea
errant geyser
`IAbstractDNAFactoryBuilder`
Save some chromosomes for the rest of us, will you
cinder flare
oh that was still high school
we just took whatever normal classes, no specialization
onyx loom
@cinder flare whats ur rank on siege
old wyvern
Ah
onyx loom
u said u played siege right? or am i wrong
old wyvern
We had minor ones
cinder flare
Gold 3 last season
I took biology 10th grade
it sucked
i get to take it again at uni tho
cause I'm a bachelor's of science 🙃
errant geyser
Kali what's yours
old wyvern
I had a bit even last semester at uni tho, under the name of "environmental chemistry" or something
onyx loom
i think i got low gold, deranked then i stopped playing
so it wouldve been top of silver
old wyvern
cause I'm a bachelor's of science 🙃
Rip
errant geyser
i think i got low gold, deranked then i stopped playing
I hit plat 3 last season, pretty spicy. Then I solo queued and lost it straight away but eh, its fiiine
old wyvern
Engineering gang
old wyvern
Ours has science too
cinder flare
and now i have to take Physics for Scientists and Engineers instead of normal physics grrrr
old wyvern
B.Tech in Computer Science and Engineering 🥲
cinder flare
oh mine's just a B.S. of Computer Science
old wyvern
I see
cinder flare
my friends roommates are engineering majors tho
oak raft
today marks the day I officially join team kotlin karen since it looks like a sexy language
forest pecan
its made by nucleotides
oak raft
lmfao yeah the killing joke was awesome
prisma wave
they'd cut his head off hopefully
EXCUSE me?????
sweet cipher
You are excused
cinder flare
EXCUSE me?????
what are your thoughts on the mutability of human dna?
oak raft
also star
prisma wave
what are your thoughts on the mutability of human dna?
that shit sucks bro
onyx loom
it full does too 😕
oak raft
I've always thought for a long time that your pfp was a fish sticking its tongue out
so what is ur pfp
sweet cipher
Lol
prisma wave
"a fish"
oak raft
who's adora
cinder flare
main character of She-Ra
sweet cipher
It’s actually a bird
oak raft
she looks like she could kill me without hesitation
old wyvern
Too rigid
cinder flare
she looks like she could kill me without hesitation
yeah that's the best part
and she can turn into She-Ra
sweet cipher
Very Egyptian
cinder flare
old wyvern
Why is she part blushing holding that sword
sweet cipher
https://tenor.com/view/shera-walk-adora-gif-18269347
Very slow walker
prisma wave
https://tenor.com/view/shera-walk-adora-gif-18269347
Confident stride of a haskell user
old wyvern
Very horny cartoon you got there
prisma wave
no way
half harness
since intellij doesn't really support it
prisma wave
there's a plugin
half harness
so i put it off
prisma wave
You don't really need intellij tho
cinder flare
half harness
i cant code without ide 😫
prisma wave
any basic editor is probably fine
old wyvern
haskell is so annoying to use
cinder flare
ew VSCode at least
prisma wave
😖
half harness
lol
prisma wave
VSC, Vim, Sublime, etc are probably fine for simple stuff
oak raft
What do you use Haskell for?
half harness
since when did i have vsc
old wyvern
i cant code without ide 😫
Ij works
But you dont really need it
Ghcid is good enough
half harness
ahiusdjsahdkjsahd
why does 1.16 mc server take 2+ minutes to start
but 1.8 takes literally 15 seconds
oak raft
so it's basically a worse version of elara? 😏
old wyvern
Exactly
prisma wave
but 1.8 takes literally 15 seconds
1.8 bad
oak raft
I see now
prisma wave
bad loads quicker than good dkim
cinder flare
why does 1.16 mc server take 2+ minutes to start
are you using paper?
half harness
haskell is so annoying to use
actually i started before i sent this message, and it just finished, so 3 minutes
jeez
half harness
are you using paper?
yes
prisma wave
1.8 loads quickly because of all of the bad
cinder flare
my server loads in less than 30 secs
half harness
my server loads in less than 30 secs
howww
old wyvern
Yes
oak raft
yea u are
cinder flare
do you have a potato pc
old wyvern
We were rewriting the specs
prisma wave
Any updates?
I updated the google doc a bit, we gotta refine the contract system a bit I think, and then everything else can stay fairly similar
half harness
[20:00:22 INFO]: This server is running Paper version git-Paper-432 (MC: 1.16.5) (Implementing API version 1.16.5-R0.1-SNAPSHOT)
[20:00:22 INFO]: Checking version, please wait...
[20:00:22 INFO]: You are 150 version(s) behind
```lolYea other than our current type system everything would fit well on the jvm
Maybe we should consider some limits
cinder flare
```
[20:00:22 INFO]: This server is running Paper version git-Paper-432 (MC: 1.1...
wtf that'd probably do something
half harness
do you have a potato pc
ask anyone here
prisma wave
yeah I feel like implicit "destructuring" for everything might not work so well
cinder flare
update your paper you weirdo
prisma wave
Hmmmm
onyx loom
my server loads in less than 30 secs
less than 30 seconds?
cinder flare
yeah?
cinder flare
well im running mine through wsl
and it takes a good sec to load the libraries every time
sweet cipher
Just never turn it off and use /reload, easy fix
cinder flare
🧠
half harness
PDM has failed me
sweet cipher
Maybe you failed it
old wyvern
PDM has failed me
Join slimgang
oak raft
Ok but these are lowkey amazing tho
old wyvern
Thanks
prisma wave
If you can't accept pdm for who it is then go away
half harness
is this correct?
prisma wave
Ok but these are lowkey amazing tho
french 🤢 🤢 😫 😳
prisma wave
what classes
sweet cipher
Ok but these are lowkey amazing tho
Finger reveal
half harness
actually ill just show u it
oak raft
french 🤢 🤢 😫 😳
gotta appeal to those in quebec what can I say? 😛
old wyvern
Do it in a init block maybe dkim
prisma wave
gotta appeal to those in quebec what can I say? 😛
Canadian french 🤮
half harness
oak raft
It’s a bit more clear here
old wyvern
Whats on line21?
onyx loom
https://paste.helpch.at/ipavurebud.cs
CLASSIC PDM hahahahahahah
oak raft
There u go @sweet cipher
prisma wave
CLASSIC PDM hahahahahahah
SHUT IT
onyx loom
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: kotlin/jvm/internal/Intrinsics the DEATH of ALL programs
old wyvern
🥲
half harness
time to stop server :c
half harness
Whats on line21?
hasPAPI = server.pluginManager.isPluginEnabled("PlaceholderAPI")
prisma wave
@half harness you have to be very careful with pdm + kotlin + main class because if you try to do pretty much anything before pdm runs you will get those errors because of all the stuff kotlin adds
old wyvern
That seems to be happening before pdm is loaded
half harness
<@521485088995672084> you have to be very careful with pdm + kotlin + main class...
does that include the stuff outside of classes?
prisma wave
Probably
prisma wave
You can look at the generated code as a reference
prisma wave
```kt
var stuff = false
class blah
```like this
That's probably fine but about 80% of kotlin will use the Intrinsics class somewhere
If any of that tries to run before PDM, you are going to hell
forest pecan
how do you deal with this type of shit. He is trying to make me rate his horrible code earlier. Now he spammed message me smh
im about to block him but i want to see what he says
lol
prisma wave
They might find a certain wiki helpful 🙂
forest pecan
omg true
cinder flare
bro you don't allow dm's from this server without being a friend first
that's what I do
and spigot too
and lp
all the big discords
sweet cipher
Pulse I would like some help but I only talk in dms, and only send messages with one word.
cinder flare
a few sketchy file uploads too while you're at it?
sweet cipher
Ask for social security number to verify they are a real person too?
cinder flare
and the number on their credit card, the month, year, and the digits on the back
sweet cipher
Don’t forget their address
oak coyote
What does he even want help with?
compact perchBOT
FAQ Answer:
forest pecan
i pointed out some issues
and then im like nope im not helping more than that in dms
go ask on a server and i will help there lol
then today
he randomly sent me 15 messages and called me
i was like wtf
and now he sent me a friend request and leaked his ip
im like
ocean quartz
Took me so long to realize what [ERROR : AbstractConfig] meant lmao
oak coyote
Code is in Africa now with how arrow like that is
cinder flare
i pointed out some issues
some
oak coyote
So he coded this?
cinder flare
forest pecan
So he coded this?
mhm
oak coyote
As long as it works for early development they shouldn’t care too much
You learn to follow conventions over time
If you try and learn them all instantly you give up
cinder flare
that's why you send your code to pulse
and he rewrites it for you in nice not arrow style
then you learn the conventions!
oak coyote
Just don’t write using arrow style we aren’t using some python code from early 2000’s
forest pecan
lol
oak coyote
It’s messy and causes mistakes and is naturally hard to read
oak coyote
Ohh and also don’t code like me I’m just a lunatic
cinder flare
wdym
you said that wasn't all his code, so I was joking that he just sent you his entire repo and asked you to look haha
forest pecan
oh lol
oak coyote
I think static is the hardest part for people to grasp
They either go too far one way or the other
cinder flare
IAbstractStaticBuilderFactoryJerryCreatorBean
oak coyote
Either static is some kind of devil spawn or it’s used everywhere they find they can’t access something or cause IntelliJ tells them it would solve it
old wyvern
Wouldn't be an issue in haskell 😏
oak coyote
Shhh
cinder flare
Java?
forest pecan
Yeah ik it wraps stuff
cinder flare
you know, coffee bean
old wyvern
Beans
old wyvern
CafeBabe
oak coyote
You guys need to stop talking about your beans that’s all I know
old wyvern
Time to rename a random lib as Cappuccino
old wyvern
Next up: Latte
half harness
i have to do this: ```
gradle clean
gradle pdm
gradle shadowJar
then a frap
old wyvern
Mocha seems to be taken
old wyvern
then a frap
Sounds good
oak coyote
you're the center of attention
Like I’m ever not 💁
cinder flare
i have to do this: ```
gradle clean
gradle pdm
gradle shadowJar
```>:(
just modify the build order to make shadowJar depend on pdm and clean and then you just click one button in IJ :)
forest pecan
lego figure!
half harness
just modify the build order to make shadowJar depend on pdm and clean and then y...
oh
half harness
slimjar isn't done yet iirc 
old wyvern
I mean it could work 🥲
cinder flare
it's Yugi's competing solution to PDM lol
cinder flare
nonAmericaJar
bm ain't american either lol
cinder flare
oh nice JDA on the go
half harness
should i use build.gradle
old wyvern
Yup
cinder flare
should i use build.gradle
build.gradle.kts yeah
old wyvern
Altho I really dont understand ehy they called it a UberJar
cinder flare
FatJar is what they call shaded jars
how come it is called shading?
oak coyote
Is there any way to reduce the size of JDA
ocean quartz
but its painful
What's painful about it?
cinder flare
maven shade was just the first thing to put stuff in a jar?
ocean quartz
Altho I really dont understand ehy they called it a UberJar
The Jar gets so big they need to call an Uber to take it home
cinder flare
then gradle's shadowJar was made after?
half harness
What's painful about it?
i google something - its always in groovy, and sometimes its just so hard to convert to kts
old wyvern
It inttoduced the term shading I think
half harness
whats the opposite of finalizedBy? (how do i make it run before, not after)
old wyvern
then gradle's `shadowJar` was made after?
Yes
ocean quartz
i google something - its always in groovy, and sometimes its just so hard to con...
Sounds like excuses
cinder flare
huh crazy
oak coyote
whats the opposite of finalizedBy? (how do i make it run before, not after)
notFinalisedFrom
old wyvern
Maven is the older one
half harness
;-;
oak coyote
😗
old wyvern
Ant -> Maven -> Gradle
sweet cipher
What about regular Notepad?
old wyvern
There was also somethinf called Ivy but I think it was just for repositories than a full on build tool
ocean quartz
Oh god I actually saw a person on StackOverflow that unironically used Ant
old wyvern
Not sure
ocean quartz
@half harness doFirst might work
half harness
hm
ocean quartz
What are you trying to do?
ocean quartz
withType<ShadowJar> {
clean
}
Learn to explain your questions straight away instead of going around and around lol
cinder flare
?xy
compact perchBOT
FAQ Answer:
cinder flare
dkim has fallen for one of the classic blunders
half harness
y
ocean quartz
Also you can run a task as clean shadowJar
obtuse gale
Also you can run a task as `clean shadowJar`
dkim: wAiT wHaT?!!?!‽?‽
half harness
i already knew that but forgot about it
half harness
‽‽‽
cinder flare
nice
half harness
nice
compact perchBOT
FAQ Answer:
half harness
```kt
withType<ShadowJar> {
clean
}
```
Learn to explain your questions straig...
doesn't work
oh wait
oops
lol
cinder flare
lmao
ocean quartz
ah still doesn't work
It should
Anyways just do clean shadowJar then lol
half harness
ok
ocean quartz
Also why does PDM require to clean?
forest pecan
I've been a good boy
ocean quartz
Heyo
half harness
actually just found out its prob not pdm related
basically
the jar just doesn't build
it only builds after i clean
ocean quartz
Sounds like something you'd want to fix instead of duck tape
sweet cipher
Duck tape works with everything
half harness
Sounds like something you'd want to fix instead of duck tape
i didn't change anything tho
it just suddenly stopped working
ocean quartz
The issue is always between the monitor and the chair
half harness
which is not me
forest pecan
not duct tape
half harness
:)
sweet cipher
*The issue is always between the monitor and the chair*
Chair is more important
obtuse gale
Doubt
half harness
i thought slimjar is still in dev
forest pecan
so
you want to load dependencies
but not shade
right
like from maven/jitpack and that stuff?
half harness
at this point ill probably just shade
forest pecan
Yeah shading is objectively easier