dev-general

[lunar cypress]

...?

[cinder flare]

what would the world be like if it pinged twice?

non-existant?

[lunar cypress]

will we ever find out

[half harness]

lol

[static zealot]

well I pinged 14 people. no one joined. time to end my life

[half harness]

oop

[jovial warren]

https://tenor.com/bej1s.gif

ffs embed

[half harness]

lol

[static zealot]

https://tenor.com/bej1s.gif

[ocean quartz]

Can't rn, sorry

[cinder flare]

cooking?

[static zealot]

its fine

no one can

[onyx loom]

dont make excuses matt

[half harness]

Can't rn, sorry too

[static zealot]

everyone is cooking

[ocean quartz]

Dishes 😩

[obtuse gale]

I legit am lol

[onyx loom]

just say u fuckin hate blitz with a passion

[cinder flare]

ah, the afterproduct, very sad

[lunar cypress]

ha look at all you losers having to cook for yourselves

[cinder flare]

I mean, if I had a nickel for every time he stole one of my helps to someone in #general-plugins or #placeholder-api , I'd have like 30 nickels at least

[onyx loom]

damn wtf that sounds like real hatred

i was joking 😩

[static zealot]

Hello. This is Blitz's dad. I'm here to tell you all that he took his own life. This is a very sad day.

[sweet cipher]

Not borrowed?

[onyx loom]

ah yes. very sad day 🙂

[lunar cypress]

oh no he passed PepeHands

[onyx loom]

oh no!.....

[cinder flare]

no way you have a gf

[cinder flare]

anyways...

[static zealot]

he has a mom

[cinder flare]

oh lmao

[ocean quartz]

I thought Blitz was dead and that was baldi

[jovial warren]

or maybe he just orders takeaways

[lunar cypress]

bruh I just got off the train to stay with my parents for the next days

[sweet cipher]

Maybe he just doesn’t eat

[static zealot]

hmm interesting theory.

[cinder flare]

okay cool, thought so lol

[jovial warren]

you know programmers do actually sometimes have a life outside of computers

surprisingly

I swear Matt has a life

iirc

[onyx loom]

he doesnt

[lunar cypress]

You high tier lot wouldn't know

[cinder flare]

is Matt even a programmer? I've waited years for TriumpChat and it never shows...

[jovial warren]

true

[onyx loom]

when someone goes to sleep at 7am and wakes up at 3pm, he has no life

[ocean quartz]

Haha years 🥲

[lunar cypress]

let me introduce the pandemic

[cinder flare]

im in this meme and I don't like it

[static zealot]

hehe. I went to sleep at 12 am and woke up at 4 am.

[jovial warren]

https://tenor.com/oZZh.gif

[static zealot]

maybe I do have a life

hmm

interesting theory

btw yesterday there were protests

and I couldn't sleep

[cinder flare]

wtf you only slept for 4 hours?

[jovial warren]

yeah I went to sleep at like 2 AM and woke up at about 8 I think

[static zealot]

almost 5

[prisma wave]

4 🥲

[static zealot]

I slept today like 2 more hours

[lunar cypress]

I went to sleep drunk at 3 am and woke up at 7, couldn't sleep anymore

[jovial warren]

anything more than 6 hours is wasting time

[onyx loom]

bruh last couple weeks i havent been able to stay awake past 10pm

idk whats gotten into me

[cinder flare]

drinking the pain of plugin development away? lmao

[static zealot]

he says "drunk" so you all think he's cool but what he really means is that he drank some tea

[lunar cypress]

nah celebrating

end of semester

[jovial warren]

wait you celebrate that?

[cinder flare]

hell yeah I can get behind that, tea fucking slaps bro

[lunar cypress]

kinda tragic via online call but you gotta do what you gotta do

[cinder flare]

bro my semester ends in a month wtf

[jovial warren]

lol

man I finish secondary school in like 7 or 8 weeks

we break up on the 27th May

[static zealot]

@prisma wave one more for the collection https://i.imgur.com/lFbskxF.png

[onyx loom]

are u on easter break now bardy?

[jovial warren]

yeah

[onyx loom]

me too

[jovial warren]

got this week and the week after

[stuck harbor]

'easter'

ffs

[onyx loom]

broke up today 😊

[jovial warren]

wait what

[cinder flare]

? what's wrong with easter

[jovial warren]

today is Wednesday

[stuck harbor]

its wednesday

[onyx loom]

it was meant to be friday

[stuck harbor]

what the foek

[jovial warren]

sorry but who tf breaks up at the end of a term on a Wednesday

[stuck harbor]

u closed a week late kaliber

[onyx loom]

but college was having some other shit on thursday and friday

[cinder flare]

bro saying "broke up" is such a bri ish thing, I thought you meant like broke up with a girl or something lmao

[stuck harbor]

man

[onyx loom]

so it wouldve been friday

[jovial warren]

man, we had a full day on Friday because they're trying to "catch up missed time"

[onyx loom]

lmao

[jovial warren]

(we're meant to have a half day and non school uniform at the end of every full term)

[stuck harbor]

saying hamburger is such a 'murican thing haha

[onyx loom]

thats pain right there

[jovial warren]

doesn't even feel like easter break tbh

[stuck harbor]

'non school uniform' wait what you did that?

[jovial warren]

we do it at the end of every full term

[cinder flare]

i just mean I've never heard someone use "broke up" to describe the end of the semester

[onyx loom]

did ur school not?

[stuck harbor]

I wore school uniform all day, every school day, no matter what

[jovial warren]

thanks to one of our assistant head teachers

[cinder flare]

you guys wore school uniforms wtf

[stuck harbor]

Once it was snowing and I was told to take my coat off

[onyx loom]

yes thats common in uk

[jovial warren]

https://tenor.com/xzNu.gif

[stuck harbor]

standard thing in the uk

[cinder flare]

where'd all the non bri ish people go im so alone

[onyx loom]

like 99% of schools do

[stuck harbor]

I never had lockers ;)

take that america

[cinder flare]

i mean I never used my locker

[jovial warren]

I've had my locker for 5 years and not used it once

[cinder flare]

just carried my backpack at all times lol

[stuck harbor]

this is what everyone did back in my day

[cinder flare]

that's what smart people who don't want to walk to their locker between every class do

[stuck harbor]

man we couldn't possibly do that, even if we had lockers

we had 2 mins to get between lessons

super strict about it

[jovial warren]

"back in your day"

[onyx loom]

how many lessons per day

[jovial warren]

omfg same

[stuck harbor]

5

[cinder flare]

2 minutes wtf

[jovial warren]

we have 6 lessons sadge

[onyx loom]

we had 3-4 :kekw:

[cinder flare]

we had 5 minutes and 8 classes per day

[stuck harbor]

sucks to suck, move to one of the worst areas of the UK ;)

[cinder flare]

then in high school 5 minutes and 4 classes per day

[jovial warren]

6 50 minute periods with a 10 minute form in the morning, 20 minute break, 1 hour lunch and 20 minute afternoon form

[stuck harbor]

8 per day?

[cinder flare]

yeah they were each 50 minutes

[stuck harbor]

ah

thats weird

50 mins is a dumb number

[static zealot]

yo anyone good with ptero and ubuntu around here? I've tried asking in ptero discord but didn't get a response and seems like message has just been lost. this are basically my wings diagnostics: https://ptero.co/ofovadosad.pl and wings won't start

[stuck harbor]

sucks

[cinder flare]

then in high school they swapped to an A/B schedule, so 1.5 hour classes and 4 of them per day, alternating every day

[prisma wave]

🥰

[jovial warren]

Sir this is #dev-general

[stuck harbor]

thats complicated as hek star

[static zealot]

yes. exactly

[stuck harbor]

as hek

[cinder flare]

not really

[stuck harbor]

that isn't dev blitz

[jovial warren]

NOT configuration help

[cinder flare]

you just had to remember whether yesterday was an A or a B day

[static zealot]

ah I should ask in #general-plugins you mother fuckers. let's talk about metric system then. because that's more development

[jovial warren]

lol

[cinder flare]

bet

[stuck harbor]

metric makes sense

I don't understand what a foot is

[jovial warren]

here we go again

[stuck harbor]

or a tonne

what is a tonne

[static zealot]

tonne is metric tho

[cinder flare]

to be fair, neither do I

[jovial warren]

tonne is metric, ton is imperial

[static zealot]

tonne is 100 kg

[stuck harbor]

comme ci

[static zealot]

lmao

[stuck harbor]

comme ca

[lunar cypress]

Bri ish people can't complain about meaningless measurements

[onyx loom]

is it not 1000kg blitz?

[stuck harbor]

we can

[static zealot]

1000 kg

not 100

[stuck harbor]

I will use miles per hour and metres

[jovial warren]

also, @static zealot learn to read

https://ptero.co/ofovadosad.pl read the error

[static zealot]

I got no idea what it means ... xD

[jovial warren]

connection refused

[onyx loom]

well mph is standard cus roads

[static zealot]

yeah but why

[cinder flare]

yeah you probably didn't authenticate

or have the wrong domain

[stuck harbor]

no

[cinder flare]

or don't have your ports setup correctly

god I love networking

[stuck harbor]

I also understand kph

I prefer kph ngl

[jovial warren]

oh actually, thinking about imperial and metric in the UK, listen to this

[onyx loom]

kph in uk is weird tho imo

our roads are still imperial

[jovial warren]

you know how we measure the amount of fuel we have in cars in litres right?

[cinder flare]

okay tbh, I like mph more than kph but just because I'm used to what speed limits should be, ya feel?

[stuck harbor]

I have an electric but okay

[jovial warren]

and we measure how much distance and how fast we're going on the road in miles and mph right?

guess what we measure the consumption of fuel in

[cinder flare]

miles per litre? lmao

[stuck harbor]

no

[jovial warren]

miles per gallon

[cinder flare]

oh nice

same

[jovial warren]

litres

miles per gallon

[stuck harbor]

we don't use gallons tho

[jovial warren]

https://tenor.com/LgPu.gif

[stuck harbor]

this is why I have an electric

[jovial warren]

https://tenor.com/8x3U.gif

[stuck harbor]

percentages

no I understood it

I didn't want to tho

[cinder flare]

so it tells you a % per mile then?

[jovial warren]

no

[stuck harbor]

no

[cinder flare]

wtf

[stuck harbor]

its an electric

its the same as ur phone

[cinder flare]

so how do you know how much you're using then

[jovial warren]

it tells you the amount of miles you will get for each gallon of fuel you burn

[stuck harbor]

no need

it tells u how long u have left

no need to know urself

[cinder flare]

no need? you get different usage rates depending on speed and such

[stuck harbor]

the car decides

[cinder flare]

that's like, why mpg exists

[stuck harbor]

as I said

electric

[cinder flare]

yes I know buddy

[jovial warren]

electric cars are weird

[cinder flare]

but you'd want to know the same statistics regardless of what form of fuel you're using

[stuck harbor]

I've only ever driven a manual and a diesel/petrol in driving lessons

never again

[static zealot]

wait this fucking suckss....

[jovial warren]

electric cars' fuel consumption can't be measured in MPG because the fuel (in this case, electricity) can't be measured in gallons

[cinder flare]

wtf privileged much

[static zealot]

I just realsied

discord has made every text file

[jovial warren]

realsied

[static zealot]

appear like that

[cinder flare]

bro I fucking get that

I'm saying like Watts/mile or whatever

[static zealot]

I have a bad keyboard where if I press to fast it doesn't know which key I pressed so it just randomises it

[jovial warren]

man, Discord adding that means paste services are slowly gonna start to disappear

[stuck harbor]

watts/kilometer I would prefer

[static zealot]

yeah but still... all text files 😢

[cinder flare]

yeah whatever, it's all in software you can have both as options

[stuck harbor]

no, don't allow imperial units

[cinder flare]

im just saying you'd want an equivalent measurement like that regardless of what kind of car you have

[stuck harbor]

also, america doesn't have standard electric car charging ports

its standard in the EU, UK, EEA, CH

[cinder flare]

well there is a standard, tesla just didn't feel like using it

[stuck harbor]

well its not a legal standard

[cinder flare]

well I guess

[stuck harbor]

its a law in the UK iirc

[cinder flare]

but it's a standard everyone else uses

UK boomers

[stuck harbor]

teslas have to use the standard as well here

s t o n k s

[jovial warren]

oh btw, guess what time it is

[stuck harbor]

18:53

[cinder flare]

the free market should decide which charging port is the best

[jovial warren]

it's region data persistence time

🥲

[stuck harbor]

no u

the free market can suck my ass, its usually wrong

[cinder flare]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[jovial warren]

I'm sorry, but the UK's plug is just factually superior in its design

that's just a fact

there's no opinion there

[stuck harbor]

well yah

[cinder flare]

it's too square i don't like it

[jovial warren]

the UK plug is the best plug in the world

[cinder flare]

and each plug has a switch for some reason? like wtf

[stuck harbor]

don't american plugs not have switches?

thats mad

[cinder flare]

and it has a fuse per plug?

yikes

[onyx loom]

uk plug is literally the best

[stuck harbor]

I always leave the switch off

[onyx loom]

its factual

[cinder flare]

why would a plug need a switch

[stuck harbor]

I don't want to get electrocuted

[cinder flare]

if I don't want power, I unplug the device

[stuck harbor]

so you don't get electrocuted?

[onyx loom]

convenience

[cinder flare]

how would i get electrocuted

[stuck harbor]

you unplug it before turning it off? ur gonna get sparks and shit

[cinder flare]

what items are you using that don't have their own power off button?

[tranquil crane]

Just grab the live prongs 5head smh

[stuck harbor]

thats not the point

[cinder flare]

barely, who cares

[onyx loom]

because there is still power going to the plug when its on, even if not in use

[cinder flare]

im saying I've lived my whole life without needing plug switches

[stuck harbor]

I care, I don't wanna get electrocuteeed

[jovial warren]

1. You have an earth wire that will trip the circuit if things go wrong, so you can safely touch a toaster for example and not get electrocuted
2. There are shutters on the socket that will only open when the earth pin is inserted
3. There is insulation on the live and neutral at exactly the right length so if the plug is far enough in to make a connection, all you can touch is the insulation

you can't really get much safer than that

[cinder flare]

that will not electrocute you, I guarantee

[jovial warren]

what are you doing here smh

you got work to do

xD

[tranquil crane]

mr level persistence

[cinder flare]

okay yeah points 2 and 3 are very true, but US plugs also have ground mate

[stuck harbor]

bardy copying tom Scott's video on UK plugs

[stuck harbor]

not always

[jovial warren]

https://tenor.com/oZZh.gif

[cinder flare]

anything that could electrocute you has to have ground

[tranquil crane]

US plugs often don't have the ground pin

[stuck harbor]

everything can electrocute you, they all use electricity

[jovial warren]

I swear they only have 2 pins

[stuck harbor]

eeeeee

[cinder flare]

yes, which means they don't pose a threat

[cinder flare]

oh no, most have 3

my pc, for instance

all 3 of my monitors

[jovial warren]

I've seen 99% of US outlets use 2 pins

I swear

[stuck harbor]

bardy swears

[jovial warren]

also, you call them outlets

wtf

[cinder flare]

literally 0 of the outlets in my house or my dorm have only 2 pins

[half harness]

lol

[jovial warren]

they're called sockets

[tranquil crane]

Most things only use 2 pins unless they use a lot of electricity

[stuck harbor]

UK plugs won't work without the ground pin

[onyx loom]

probably more power consumption hungry have 3pins

[stuck harbor]

they just wont

[half harness]

more like 80%

[jovial warren]

you are actually stupid

[stuck harbor]

there are little flaps to stop it if there is no ground pin

[cinder flare]

yeah if it could actually realistically harm you, it has to have 3 pins

[tranquil crane]

you read him wrong bardy

[onyx loom]

nicole said it more accurately for me

[tranquil crane]

he was saying more power hungry devices use 3 pins for safety measures

[jovial warren]

I swear if you post a joke you GIF imma find where you live kali

[cinder flare]

which they do

[jovial warren]

lol

yeah fair

[tranquil crane]

Things like phone chargers only have 2 pins

[cinder flare]

and you really don't need a ground for a lot of low power things

[half harness]

what is a joke you gif

[tranquil crane]

Even my toaster only has 2

[jovial warren]

https://tenor.com/KLbN.gif

[half harness]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-miss-you-did-not-understand-gif-8722137

this?

oh

first thing that popped up when i typed "joke you" lol

[jovial warren]

which means that if it's metal and something goes wrong, you touch the outside and you are toast

sorry I couldn't not

[cinder flare]

my toaster has 3 wtf

[onyx loom]

having a toaster with 2pins is pepega

[cinder flare]

but also outlets near water have GFCI outlets so you can't toaster-bathtub yourself

[half harness]

btw

[jovial warren]

love how everyone missed the pun

[half harness]

how come we're talkig about outlets now

[onyx loom]

ha

toast!

[jovial warren]

sockets, not outlets

[half harness]

Hahahaha

[cinder flare]

cause the UK boomers are trying to prove something

[tranquil crane]

Those GFCI outlets won't even trip under most circumstances unless the water has soap in it or something

[half harness]

rolling_eyes

[cinder flare]

if the current is going into your body, they will trip lol

[jovial warren]

they are plug sockets

[harsh hedge]

Hello, looking for a discord js dev

[cinder flare]

#816184747024711693 or #816184744797929522

[half harness]

#816184747024711693 / #816184744797929522

[jovial warren]

#816184747024711693 or #816184744797929522

[harsh hedge]

ok sorry

[half harness]

ha

beat you

[obtuse gale]

Lmao

[jovial warren]

lol

[half harness]

🙂

[lunar cypress]

Who else

[cinder flare]

beat you ha

[tranquil crane]

#816184747024711693 / #816184744797929522

[jovial warren]

dkim imma find out where you live

[half harness]

wot

[tranquil crane]

Mobile is hard

[jovial warren]

man you're really slow

[half harness]

no pls no

[obtuse gale]

Creep

[cinder flare]

https://i.imgur.com/2lW0Ibq.png

[jovial warren]

stfu lol

[half harness]

wha

[jovial warren]

man your internet bad

[cinder flare]

is yours differently ordered? lol

[half harness]

sorry bardy

[obtuse gale]

Can confirm, Star's is first

[cinder flare]

oof imagine bad interent

[half harness]

nooooo

[jovial warren]

can also confirm Star's is first

kali stfu

[onyx loom]

u cant say p e do 😐

[jovial warren]

https://tenor.com/xime.gif

[obtuse gale]

Lmao

[stuck harbor]

ur mum gae

and use mf

[half harness]

egg plant

[tranquil crane]

you what

[jovial warren]

also, Class.forName("org.kryptonmc.krypton.world.block.palette.GlobalPalette") class preloading 😎

this is how we control object instantiation

[tranquil crane]

I was wondering what was up with that then I remembered it was probably for the init block

[jovial warren]

dkim I swear, my deleted message logs are just filled with you

[jovial warren]

shall I show you the hackery I implemented to use delegated inheritance?

actually I think I already showed you

[half harness]

wait does it show edited messages too?

[cinder flare]

I wanna see Nicole fix tags like I suggested, the goal Bardy could never accomplish himself

[jovial warren]

// these allow us to use delegated inheritance in GlobalPalette, making it easier to access the values
private val BLOCKS_TEXT = (Thread.currentThread().contextClassLoader.getResourceAsStream("registries/blocks.json")
    ?: throw IOException("registries/blocks.json not in classpath! Something has gone horribly wrong!"))
    .reader(Charsets.UTF_8)
    .readText()

private val PALETTE: Map<NamespacedKey, RegistryBlock> = Json.decodeFromString(BLOCKS_TEXT)

object GlobalPalette : Map<NamespacedKey, RegistryBlock> by PALETTE {

    override fun get(key: NamespacedKey) = PALETTE.getValue(key)
}

[jovial warren]

yes

edit a message and I'll send you a screenshot

[cinder flare]

done

[obtuse gale]

RePoRtEd

[half harness]

oh

pog

[cinder flare]

perfect, my scorn recorded forever in Bardy's ShareX feed

or snipping tool?

i dunno

[prisma wave]

Hey Brady

[cinder flare]

oh fuck

[jovial warren]

Fefo https://tenor.com/view/steve-carell-dont-you-dare-the-office-michael-scott-gif-9247065

[half harness]

oh

[jovial warren]

I swear so many americans call me that lol

[cinder flare]

i misspelled it lol

[half harness]

i still haven't reported

[cinder flare]

sowwy

[half harness]

i forgot

[stuck harbor]

brady is such an uncommon name here

its funny

[obtuse gale]

Someone threatened to report my account for asking them if they were mentally challenged 🙂

[jovial warren]

yeah it is

[hot hull]

Aussies would call you oi cunt

[obtuse gale]

Nothing ever happened

[stuck harbor]

hehe

[jovial warren]

lol

[cinder flare]

were they?

[stuck harbor]

oi bruv wot u doin' innit

[obtuse gale]

No idea lmao

[cinder flare]

awe

[stuck harbor]

i know many people irl who speak like this

[jovial warren]

https://tenor.com/FXgY.gif

[cinder flare]

i like those people

[stuck harbor]

same

they are the best people

[jovial warren]

fake roadman

[cinder flare]

though Bardy does sound like Dr. Mike Pound

and I absolutely love it

[jovial warren]

lol

shall we jump back in general

[cinder flare]

nah im gonna take a shower and get food, im hungy

[jovial warren]

lol

[obtuse gale]

Smexy

[cinder flare]

arguing against the evils of celcius really works up an appetite

[jovial warren]

dkim joined with mic unmuted 👀

[obtuse gale]

WorldGuard support channel, they asked that very same question like 5 other times before

[cinder flare]

did he also send a message he immediately deleted?

cause I got a notif and when I clicked it was gone

[half harness]

oops

[cinder flare]

ew wtf you have condensed mode

[jovial warren]

^

[obtuse gale]

Yes indeed

[forest pecan]

he always did

[half harness]

compact*

[cinder flare]

but how do you see my cute pfp every time I type a message???

[forest pecan]

sin

[obtuse gale]

I don't want to see Bardy's ugly B on an orange background

[forest pecan]

can u see this

[obtuse gale]

Yes

Besides I'm on mobile lmfao

[forest pecan]

lmao

[jovial warren]

stfu

[forest pecan]

lol

[cinder flare]

what Bardy lacks in art design, he makes up for in his love of Kotlin and his determination to make Krypton

[jovial warren]

I made it when I was 11 years old and I haven't came up with anything that's really all that much better

[obtuse gale]

I mean I can just see it when I check DMs and stuff 👀

[cinder flare]

hmm I guess

[obtuse gale]

• mobile

[cinder flare]

but seeing silly Adora makes me smile every time

[onyx loom]

#816184747024711693 / #816184744797929522 🙂

[cinder flare]

lmao

[jovial warren]

no

[obtuse gale]

Why does she look so wasted lmao

Literally me when I'm drunk

[cinder flare]

She's literally drunk because a virus infected her sword kinda thing

[obtuse gale]

Lol

[cinder flare]

there's a whole like 2 episodes where she's like that, and it's so adorable

[forest pecan]

HHAHAH

[forest pecan]

I got bardy muted

lmao

[cinder flare]

wait how lol

[forest pecan]

we were fighting over music bot

I kept doing !skip

he kept doing !play

and spammed it

[cinder flare]

awe yes

[forest pecan]

and he got global mute

lol

[cinder flare]

im impressed he's not immune, considering he's a booster (high class citizen)

[obtuse gale]

It's just a facade

[cinder flare]

what is

[forest pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/supa-hot-fire-end-this-mans-whole-career-diss-rap-battle-gif-15687941

[cinder flare]

being a booster?

[forest pecan]

me (gif)

lol

[obtuse gale]

Boosting

[cinder flare]

oh lol

wtf why no gif

[obtuse gale]

Lmaooo

[forest pecan]

so bad

smh

[cinder flare]

https://tenor.com/view/yay-shera-shera-and-the-princesses-of-power-shera-adora-spop-gif-17740985

i did not realize how many adora gifs there were here

[forest pecan]

want to see

[cinder flare]

I have a lot of use for these

[forest pecan]

ahri gifs?

[cinder flare]

ahri from league?

[forest pecan]

yes lmao

my pfp

[cinder flare]

your pfp is ahri wtf

she has black hair no?

[forest pecan]

varies

[cinder flare]

and 9 tails and all that?

[forest pecan]

well ahri always has 9 tails

[obtuse gale]

Naruto be like

[forest pecan]

lol

[cinder flare]

im not gonna lie, I just never questioned what your pfp was lol

i thought it was from some anime

[forest pecan]

have you ever clicked on it?

lol

and looked closely

[cinder flare]

yes it looks like a catgirl from an anime

[forest pecan]

neko?

lol

[cinder flare]

yeah whatever lol

[lunar cypress]

Looks nothing like ahri tbh

[forest pecan]

well you know she doesn't always look like one person

[lunar cypress]

Then again, maybe you've looked at more Ahri closeups than I have...

[forest pecan]

what

lmao

never

i promise

[obtuse gale]

Well I know for a fact Pulse knows of a site

cough

[forest pecan]

wait yo

you can do this now

[cinder flare]

i do too, it's called reddit.com :)

[forest pecan]

new discord feature

that is so pog

[cinder flare]

what in the fuck

[forest pecan]

when you upload java file

[obtuse gale]

Yeah that's cool

[forest pecan]

it shows that

[obtuse gale]

It's still a file

[cinder flare]

embeds on steroids???

[forest pecan]

yea

[obtuse gale]

Doesn't show on mobile 🥲

[forest pecan]

Hah

also

idk how to improve my console

https://github.com/PulseBeat02/BuildToolsGui/blob/master/src/main/java/com/github/pulsebeat02/buildtoolsgui/gui/ConsoleArea.java

[cinder flare]

what's wrong with it?

[half harness]

hm

rip

[cinder flare]

could not render this file preview lmao

[prisma wave]

can someone test with a file in an actually decent language please :)

[forest pecan]

its only like .java or .py

maybe others

[obtuse gale]

it's any text file afaik?

[lunar cypress]

No it can use any text file

[forest pecan]

that is a png file dkim

[prisma wave]

Try bytecode

[half harness]

how did u know

[forest pecan]

i downloaded it

lmao

[half harness]

oh

did u open the image

lol

[forest pecan]

yea

its just rectangles

[half harness]

O_o

[prisma wave]

#816184749752188958

[half harness]

wait what

[tranquil crane]

wait what discord has file previews now?

[hot hull]

Lmao

[obtuse gale]

yea

[half harness]

can u post it here

[hot hull]

Bardy's an idiot

[forest pecan]

Ego Boosting
Will let you carry me in bedwars and tell you how great you are

[cinder flare]

works with Kotlin!!

[obtuse gale]

is pog

[half harness]

jvmstatic 🤮

[obtuse gale]

with any text file

[forest pecan]

@JvmStatic

w at

[half harness]

why r u using jvmstatic

[cinder flare]

yeah that's Titanic lol, the capitalist guy

[forest pecan]

lmao

[cinder flare]

it's freshly converted code

im working on it okay

[half harness]

and an object as the main class

[forest pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/langostino19gif-go-back-i-want-to-be-monkey-gif-19679655

[half harness]

what da

[cinder flare]

https://tenor.com/view/adora-shera-shocked-unicorn-gif-17671251

[forest pecan]

dkim you always react to something

and remove it right after

lmao

[half harness]

...

[forest pecan]

i dont even have to click on the reactions tab

to know who it was

lol

[cinder flare]

hey I do it sometimes too!

[half harness]

one day someones gonna react and remove

and its not going to be me

[cinder flare]

well not remove

i stick with my reacts

[half harness]

._.

HEY

[forest pecan]

Hah

[obtuse gale]

No need to shout.

[forest pecan]

dkim bad

[prisma wave]

Niall used to do it a lot

[half harness]

WHOS DOinG DAT_ _

[forest pecan]

No need to shout

[forest pecan]

No need to shout.

[half harness]

Okay**.**

[forest pecan]

No need to shout.

[half harness]

Okay**.**

[cinder flare]

wtf is that period

[half harness]

?

:)

[obtuse gale]

On another note, Spigot is preparing for 1.17 with World#getMinHeight() 👀

[forest pecan]

No need to shout.

[cinder flare]

why is it extra bold

[forest pecan]

No need to shout.

[half harness]

idk

[prisma wave]

Spigot is preparing for 1.17 by remaining on java 8

[forest pecan]

I see

[half harness]

wha

[prisma wave]

Classic

[forest pecan]

Spigot has a 1.17 condom

ic

its preparing

[obtuse gale]

I want to see what mojang does tho

about the jre version they ship the game with

[forest pecan]

when mojang tells people to move up everyone will move up

[prisma wave]

Give us java 17 or we riot

[cinder flare]

presumably also stay on java 8

[forest pecan]

Java 17 for 1.17!!

[cinder flare]

yo it would match! now that'd be cute af

[forest pecan]

i said it first

[obtuse gale]

doubt, they have been doing some changes on the launcher lately

[forest pecan]

bish

[cinder flare]

shutup I replied

[forest pecan]

idc im better

[cinder flare]

😟

[prisma wave]

ok but what if mojang rewrote minecraft in

[cinder flare]

haskell?

[half harness]

minecraft 1.18

[forest pecan]

clojure

🌚

[cinder flare]

minecraft 1.h

[obtuse gale]

👀

[forest pecan]

is that paper discord

[obtuse gale]

enginehub

[forest pecan]

oh

[obtuse gale]

which one

[cinder flare]

never heard of it

[obtuse gale]

lol

[obtuse gale]

worldedit, worldguard etc

[cinder flare]

oh the world bois I see

[obtuse gale]

yeah

[cinder flare]

they're still developing that?

[obtuse gale]

ofc!

[cinder flare]

I thought FAWE was the new standard

[forest pecan]

????

[obtuse gale]

ew no

[forest pecan]

wat lol

[half harness]

eww noo

[cinder flare]

no?

[prisma wave]

we need to circlejerk ruby more often

Ruby seems nice

[cinder flare]

should I not use FAWE Lol

[half harness]

WE + AWE = win win

AWE is just so that the server doesn't crash

[obtuse gale]

no

also no

[cinder flare]

it's silly! that's why I love it. stuff like 5.times for a loop are encouraged

[obtuse gale]

it breaks we too

[half harness]

then what

[prisma wave]

That's nice

[half harness]

how can i prevent crash

[obtuse gale]

just worldedit

[half harness]

for large schematics

[prisma wave]

The syntax is pretty clean

[obtuse gale]

none of the async forks are any faster

[half harness]

ive tried before - it always crashes, ive tried multiple times

[cinder flare]

i presumed they'd be async?

[prisma wave]

This discord doesn't talk about my guys Ruby and Julia enough

[cinder flare]

or at least, spread the work out over multiple steps

[half harness]

i don't mind - I just don't want a crash ;-;

[obtuse gale]

async doesn't necessarily mean faster

[cinder flare]

what's julia

[old wyvern]

Im in

[cinder flare]

yeah but it usually means it doesn't crash the server by slamming the main thread

[old wyvern]

Does COC suppourt ruby?

[obtuse gale]

the only reason it would crash is if you run out of memory

[half harness]

^

[obtuse gale]

worldedit ticks the watchdog

[half harness]

welp

[obtuse gale]

so it doesn't time out

[cinder flare]

yes I tried using it once and realized I know nothing so went back to Java/Kot

[prisma wave]

Yeah I used it once or twice in the past

[old wyvern]

Ayy lit

[half harness]

i allocate 3gb ram... what can i do so that it doesn't crash then

[old wyvern]

We can do one tonight eith only ruby maybe

The same we did with haskell

[prisma wave]

Python + Lua + Ruby but pretty much as fast as C

[old wyvern]

😂

[cinder flare]

can i get $5 for surpassing your Ruby knowledge? haha

[half harness]

you have to use AWE or FAWE for large schematics... or as you're saying have a lot of ram

[prisma wave]

I'm afraid not

[cinder flare]

sheee

[obtuse gale]

iirc it's like 2 gigs per 10 mill blocks or something?

[half harness]

AWE or FAWE - which one is better fefo

[obtuse gale]

on average

none

[half harness]

...

[cinder flare]

how come normal worledit doesn't slap some asynchronity and spread out changes in there?

[half harness]

then give me something

to make it not crash

[half harness]

🤷

[obtuse gale]

spreading it out isn't the problem

[cinder flare]

i presumed they stopped working on it and FAWE and AWE were the ones keeping it going

[obtuse gale]

modifying the world async is the problem

[oak raft]

When I finish my game, would I be allowed to put a gamejolt link to it in #showcase ? or would that somehow be considered advertising

[cinder flare]

you're telling me that editing 2 million blocks all in one go isn't a bad idea, but spreading it out over a few edits is?

[prisma wave]

It's advertising

[half harness]

lol

[prisma wave]

I'll ban you

[obtuse gale]

literally no?

[oak raft]

no pls

[obtuse gale]

spreading it out isn't the problem

[oak raft]

bm have mercy

[obtuse gale]

modifying the world async is the problem

[cinder flare]

oh that you have with the plugin I see

i read that wrong

[half harness]

then tell me what to do - I can't code a better AWE myself

[prisma wave]

No mercy for advertisers

[oak raft]

bruh

[half harness]

lol

[oak raft]

I can't do my D: face anymore

[half harness]

D;

wow

[prisma wave]

🥲

\D;

[obtuse gale]

also octyl has been planning on spreading edit session applications over ticks (sync), but that requires a huge rewrite afaik

[cinder flare]

\D;

oop

[prisma wave]

worth a try

[half harness]

then tell me what to do - I can't code a better AWE myself

[cinder flare]

what's wrong with async editing of a world?

[prisma wave]

anyone wanna clash now

:))

[obtuse gale]

good luck if on the next restart the chunks are corrupted

[half harness]

naaah im watching yt

😎

[prisma wave]

scum

[cinder flare]

why would the chunks be corrupted

[obtuse gale]

I have had some really bad experiences myself with AWE/FAWE

[half harness]

answer
my
question
plz

[oak raft]

of clans?

[obtuse gale]

async world editing is unsafe

[cinder flare]

how?

[prisma wave]

absolutely not

[obtuse gale]

minecraft is not designed to deal with that

[oak raft]

😦

[cinder flare]

wdym

[half harness]

😦

[cinder flare]

i don't see how changing a region file not in the main game loop is a problem

[obtuse gale]

I mean that minecraft is not designed in mind to deal with async world editing

[obtuse gale]

you don't, ask mojang

[half harness]

fefooooooooooooo

[obtuse gale]

fuck off

no

[cinder flare]

im not really sure what you mean

[obtuse gale]

don't use async forks

[half harness]

:c

[cinder flare]

you're not really giving any concrete explanation

[obtuse gale]

because I didn't write minecraft

[cinder flare]

just saying "async bad" "minecraft wasn't meant for it"

[obtuse gale]

nor worldedit

[half harness]

then tell me how to prevent crashes

and major lagspikes

[cinder flare]

yeah I was gonna say, being able to worldedit without your server nearing its deathbed is kinda nice

[obtuse gale]

EngineHub is a team of actual software engineers on the field for over a decade, you bet the are way more than capable of writing good code. If doing world editing asynchronously was safe they would have done it long ago

[half harness]

the one time i switch back to normal my server with my friends on it crashes after someone pastes a schematic (in a void world)

[prisma wave]

ok but i bet they dont know haskell

so

🙂

[cinder flare]

well they also haven't figured out spreading the edit over multiple segments yet and that is a strikingly good idea

[obtuse gale]

they didn't originally write worldedit

so they are carrying code from other people

[half harness]

wait really?

[cinder flare]

okay?

[obtuse gale]

sk89q did

[obtuse gale]

as I said, it requires a major rewrite

[cinder flare]

maybe they don't add asynchronity because they're carrying code from other people

[obtuse gale]

then why do forks do it

and not them

[cinder flare]

i dunno

[obtuse gale]

why not bring downstream changes upstream

[cinder flare]

why do forks spread edits over and not htem

[obtuse gale]

they don't?

[cinder flare]

why not bring the downstream changes upstream

AWE and FAWE both do taht

[obtuse gale]

unsafely

[cinder flare]

and you said some other plugin does that too

not that you know of

[obtuse gale]

??????

[cinder flare]

you're basing all of this on your bad experiences

[half harness]

oop

[prisma wave]

🙂

[cinder flare]

.

[obtuse gale]

octyl is one of the enginehub devs

[half harness]

how come AWE can do it then

[cinder flare]

okay, so he's copying a feature that downstream versions have odne

[obtuse gale]

but sync

[half harness]

better? 😉

[obtuse gale]

again, spreading an edit session over ticks isn't the issue

doing it async is the issue

[cinder flare]

maybe the async part is more work and is part of the plan later

[obtuse gale]

I wouldn't be surprised if by the time mojang upgraded to an up to date jre version, on that worldedit rewrite octyl said she'd do she also added this spreading thing

[half harness]

for me not spreading an edit session over ticks is the issue, and the only way to solve it is to use AWE or FAWE, and although that has other issues, it won't crash the server at least

[cinder flare]

maybe your "team of professional engineers" is just fucking slow and have other projects to do lol

[prisma wave]

maybe

[obtuse gale]

yeah let me doubt that

[cinder flare]

oh?

[half harness]

plus i can always do /awe toggle for small things, and then toggle it back on for large things

[cinder flare]

what major changes has WorldEdit had in the last 5 years

[obtuse gale]

mojang releasing 1.13

[cinder flare]

oh wow

amazing

[oak raft]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807702426001604618/820008432865640488/image0-8.gif

[cinder flare]

professional engineers hard at work

[obtuse gale]

literally hundreds of thousands of lines of code rewritten in worldedit

or we + wg

can't remember

[prisma wave]

shouldve taken the opportunity to migrate to

that wouldve been better imo

[cinder flare]

alright, im not convinced there's anything wrong with AWE or FAWE besides the fact that you had bad experiences with them lol

[cinder flare]

WorldEdit and WorldGuard in Ruby 👀, that'd be kinda cute ngl

[obtuse gale]

literally every single thing Minecraft does with the world, entities etc is done on a single thread

[cinder flare]

and slow probably

[half harness]

#816184749752188958 message what da hek

[obtuse gale]

It is straight up not designed to be done async

[cinder flare]

due to poor design

[obtuse gale]

Minecraft's design

Not worldedit's

[cinder flare]

they have async chunk stuff in Bedrock

[obtuse gale]

That is something no fork can change

[obtuse gale]

yeah, too bad they don't support mods there

[half harness]

krypton

[prisma wave]

about time

[cinder flare]

they use the same world scheme

[prisma wave]

i was wondering when someone would mention that

[cinder flare]

so I don't see why a plugin or mod can't do their world editing async

[obtuse gale]

you mean world/regions format?

anvil?

[cinder flare]

yea

afaik

[obtuse gale]

The file format has nothing to do with how the code deals with it in memory???

For all that matters you could store it in mongodb

[cinder flare]

it doesn't really matter how the code deals with it in memory either

all you're doing is moving it off of the main thread

nothing inherently wrong with that

[obtuse gale]

???

[cinder flare]

???

[half harness]

❓ ❓ ❓

[obtuse gale]

how does it not

[cinder flare]

because it doesn't matter how it's dealt with

all that matters is what thread it's on

[obtuse gale]

how does it not

[cinder flare]

and moving it to the side does nothing

events do not need to happen in a certain order in order for world saving to work

there are no race conditions with saving regions to a file

are you also proposing SQL connections be done synchronous too?

they're essentially the same

[obtuse gale]

There is a chain, an order in which things happen on that same thread, looking for changes and stuff, world ticks, blocks tick, entities tick, rng based on previous states etc

The entire game is based on a conveyor belt of events

[cinder flare]

yes but region files can be saved regardless of their place in the conveyor

and as long as you send out all the required packets, it doesn't matter if they happen before or after any other event

[obtuse gale]

When the files are saved has nothing to do with what I'm saying?

[cinder flare]

that's what the AWE does

[obtuse gale]

I mean sure it can happen so that you do it just in the right time the world is saving and fuck up

[cinder flare]

it asynchronously saves the files and sends out block change packets

Fefo, your whole argument boils down to "it isn't how minecraft was meant to work" and "i had bad experiences with AWE and FAWE"

[obtuse gale]

And your whole argument is "it's safe it doesn't matter"

[cinder flare]

You're the one who has to bring evidence

You're saying we shouldn't use something

You have to say why

[old wyvern]

yes

[obtuse gale]

Again I did not write minecraft nor worldedit, but I know enough of that ordered chain of events to know that the game is not designed for it

[cinder flare]

That's not a concrete reason

[obtuse gale]

If it was safe Bukkit wouldn't let you modify blocks async

[ocean quartz]

Ayy recoded my plugin as a fabric mod to see the pathing better, now to work on custom pathfinding because vanilla's is stupid

[obtuse gale]

would*

[cinder flare]

We all agree Bukkit is poorly written

[tranquil crane]

f o x

[cinder flare]

That is not a valid argument

[ocean quartz]

Y e s

[obtuse gale]

What about Fabric

and Forge

[cinder flare]

"If it was safe, how come WorldEdit didn't incorporate it already?"

[obtuse gale]

And every other modded platform

[half harness]

why do you have a netherite sword? 👀 🩸

[obtuse gale]

They all prevent you from modifying the world from other threads

[tranquil crane]

for killing foxes :(

[prisma wave]

15 mins

[old wyvern]

The only issue with migrating from Bukkit now is the plethora of plugins that are available

[obtuse gale]

Are all of them poorly written?

[cinder flare]

well I don't see w hy

[ocean quartz]

For sad business :(

[cinder flare]

Again, not a solid reason

[old wyvern]

If there were a solution to migratign the plugins as well, everyone can just move on

[cinder flare]

If you can give me a solid reason not to use AWE that is grounded in facts and not "if it was good, someone would've done it", I will be content

[cinder flare]

is that some A* I see?

that shit is super interesting

[ocean quartz]

A*? xD

[old wyvern]

a star pathfinding

[cinder flare]

yeah A star pathfinding?

[old wyvern]

And no, its vanilla pathfindergoals I think?

[ocean quartz]

Ah, yeah it's vanilla so prolly not

[cinder flare]

oh very lame

[old wyvern]

Why do I keep messing up my sentences every time xD

[cinder flare]

you're making it better though, right?

[ocean quartz]

Yeah making a custom one

Just finished making what I had in Bukkit work in fabric

[cinder flare]

well which algorithm are you gonna use?!?!

[ocean quartz]

was surprisingly simple

[tranquil crane]

if (item) {
pathfind()
}

[ocean quartz]

No idea yet, first I need to understand how the pathing in vanilla work so I can create an implementation that'll work on Bukkit since it can't have new mobs

[cinder flare]

stupid bukkit

[half harness]

u should rewrite bukkit if u keep calling it stupid 😤

[cinder flare]

nah Bardy's already doing that bro

[tranquil crane]

we are rewriting bukkit it's the whole server smh

[cinder flare]

and I spiritually contributed to it

[half harness]

i should contribute

[cinder flare]

maybe someday I'll gain enough braincells to make a PR or two

[half harness]

||by editing the readme||

ez contributer status

[prisma wave]

(if x (println x) (println (not x)))

say something

i dare you

come on

[half harness]

ok

[cinder flare]

is that a lisp derivative?

[prisma wave]

yes 😄

[cinder flare]

makes sense

[old wyvern]

{}{}{}()({}{}}[][]{}]]]}}[[}{}[){}

[ocean quartz]

Now for the big test, will the game crash if i start it in debug mode

[old wyvern]

Method breakpoint might help get it to crash 🥲

[prisma wave]

whoever reacted with -1 should expect me at their house very soon

[ocean quartz]

Exactly 🥲

[tranquil crane]

if (debug) {
System.exit(-3)
}

[ocean quartz]

On bukkit it's impossible

[cinder flare]

i did that before I got that it was a lispy boi, I thought you were writing incorrect Kotlin for a sec

-3 lmao

[prisma wave]

remove it NOW

[onyx loom]

if what world is that kotlin

[tranquil crane]

System.exit(ThreadLocalRandom.nextInt())

[ocean quartz]

Lmao

[prisma wave]

thank you

😌

[cinder flare]

https://tenor.com/view/shera-adora-shera-adora-stink-eye-side-eye-gif-17742159

you don't have to yell

[prisma wave]

i DO

[old wyvern]

map $ map $ map $ map $ map toInt $ map map $ map (map show) $ [1...1000]

[prisma wave]

🙂

[tranquil crane]

no

[prisma wave]

that's ridiculous

[old wyvern]

$, the bane of the parenthesis

The US be killing lisps

[prisma wave]

would be nice if f# had something like that

[old wyvern]

The left pipe is similar I think bm

[cinder flare]

| go brrr