dev-general

[lunar cypress]

why is javac not simply a copy of kotlinc

[old wyvern]

xD

[forest pecan]

try implementing jni or jna or bitshift in kotlin

lol

much harder

[quiet depot]

kotlin should have java/kotlin interop like holyc c/asm interop

that'd be cool

and probably useless

but still cool

[lunar cypress]

The kotlin compiler isn't much smarter than javac, the language just has more features in its spec

[forest pecan]

^

[old wyvern]

How does holyc interop work

Was it you jsut writing asm inbetween C?

[quiet depot]

u can basically just type asm in the middle of ur c

[old wyvern]

lmao

[forest pecan]

lmao

thats why its called holyc

cause its hella holy language

[quiet depot]

a gift from the gods

[jovial warren]

No semicolons, smart casting, decent type inference, compile time constants, the list goes on

Delegated inheritance

[onyx loom]

lol

[jovial warren]

Extension and expression function mapping

[stuck harbor]

we should rewrite the linux kernel in holy c

[forest pecan]

that is basically a utility method

lmao

the extension methods

[stuck harbor]

that would be much better

[jovial warren]

Yeah ik

[old wyvern]

Those are more of language features

type inference exists in Java as well

[jovial warren]

The compiler wraps them into utility classes and changes the calls

[old wyvern]

compile time constants are also handled by javac as well afaik

[forest pecan]

also kotlin jar size is bigger 🌚 but that shouldnt be taken account of lol

[old wyvern]

final and static primitives

[lunar cypress]

yeah again that's the language, not the compiler

[old wyvern]

same as kotlin consts

[lunar cypress]

I doubt the compiler does much more on its own than javac

And it doesn't need to

because jvm

[forest pecan]

are the unsigned primitives really unsigned or just disguised as normal primitives (in kotlin)

[old wyvern]

mhm

[jovial warren]

Also, kotlinc can compile to three different formats

The same language, three formats

[quiet depot]

what js and native?

and jvm?

[old wyvern]

Also, instanceOf pattern matching exists in java as well

[quiet depot]

does anyone use js and native

[stuck harbor]

no

nobody does

[old wyvern]

No, it just exists

[quiet depot]

thought so

[old wyvern]

Some people use Kotlin native for mobile devices tho afaik

not really sure of that

[lunar cypress]

having more targets doesn't make it smarter

[old wyvern]

^

[forest pecan]

makes it harder in fact

not smarter

[quiet depot]

harder

what

that is not the right word

[old wyvern]

xD

[forest pecan]

lmao

XD

[old wyvern]

kotis

[forest pecan]

maybe it does make people hard

[onyx loom]

it makes bardy hard thats for sure

[forest pecan]

Mhm

[old wyvern]

lmao

[forest pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/boner-hard-on-mushroom-growing-morning-wood-gif-16786445

mushroom

[onyx loom]

mushroom

[stuck harbor]

mushroom

[half harness]

mushroom

[old wyvern]

mush

[forest pecan]

room

[old wyvern]

no balls

[oblique heath]

mushlong

[quiet depot]

mushort

[forest pecan]

yea it got no balls

[old wyvern]

Maybe the earth is its ball

🥲

[onyx loom]

big balls

[forest pecan]

anti-testes

only balls

[quiet depot]

yugi if the earth were its ball

it'd be but a mere hair on the ball

hell

[old wyvern]

xD

[quiet depot]

probably a little microscopic bug

[old wyvern]

Small pp?

[forest pecan]

Lmao

[quiet depot]

idk

[half harness]

uh

=offtopic

plz

[old wyvern]

Microscopic*

[half harness]

this is some... weird chat

[forest pecan]

stfu nobody cares

admin ban

/s

lol

[old wyvern]

uhm

[forest pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/tracey-morgan-no-hell-no-gif-11585244

[static zealot]

wtf did I just watch?

[quiet depot]

yeah

pls no

none of that in here

[old wyvern]

what?

What other guy?

[forest pecan]

You turn my floppy disk into a hard drive...
Are you linux? Because we can mkdirs.
I'll always have cache for you
ind if I run a sniffer to see if your ports are open? ;)
Come to my 127.0.0.1 and I’ll give you sudo access.
Are you CoffeeScript? Because I am looking to drink you out.
My main method is 'public love iLoveYou().'
Want to see my secret plug-in?
Are you a GitHub repository? Because I want to fork you.
You can unzip my files anytime...
Hey, bb, want me to get winrar in here so we can unzip our files ;)
Will you be mybb?

who remembers this

[old wyvern]

Im confused

[static zealot]

lmaooo xD

[forest pecan]

lol

[static zealot]

was this the guy who asked for more pickup lines and asked if these are good enough?

[old wyvern]

Oh he told that you didnt make it?

[forest pecan]

yea lol

[old wyvern]

oh lol

[quiet depot]

i've seen these before

there was a thread on spigot

it had some of these

years ago

[forest pecan]

Oh lmao

[onyx loom]

uve used them in practice havent u pig

[static zealot]

yeah the guy was googling developer pickup lines

because his crush was a developer

or something like that

[forest pecan]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/pickuplines.13467/

oh shit

lmao

[quiet depot]

nah

it was a thread

and no kaliber

[static zealot]

why is that a resource?

[quiet depot]

there was another pickup line though

[onyx loom]

smash or pass papi expansion 🥲

[forest pecan]

"Are you a diamond pickaxe? Because I’m harder than obsidian"

[quiet depot]

something about wanting to "insert my usb stick into you"

can't remember the exact line

actually heard that one used irl sadly

[onyx loom]

https://github.com/PlaceholderAPI/SmashOrPass-Expansion

[old wyvern]

Im wondering who he picked up with that...

[forest pecan]

LMAO

[static zealot]

:smiling_face_with_3_tears: please

[forest pecan]

https://github.com/PlaceholderAPI/SmashOrPass-Expansion/blob/1155e80f061077e382f7726a8f8d52a149a64a73/src/main/java/me/glaremasters/smashorpass/SmashOrPassExpansion.java#L11

https://tenor.com/view/confused-turn-around-what-wot-wat-gif-15539383

[old wyvern]

That aint a pickup line, thats a "~~friend ~~ fuck request"

[quiet depot]

yeah that's like the raw format of it

it was a pickup line

I just can't remember it

[old wyvern]

xD

[static zealot]

wait that's from Glare? lmao

[quiet depot]

it wasn't actually used to legitimately get a girl

it was just a conversation full of computer related innuendos

[onyx loom]

its on the papi repo blitz

[static zealot]

yeah I know

but me.glaremasters.

[old wyvern]

yea I understand

[onyx loom]

🥲

[static zealot]

yeah lmaooo

[old wyvern]

Is there a way to change the pulling branch in a pr?

[half harness]

If i made a papi expansion, where would i put it (so its public)?

[static zealot]

omg can we get 6x6 ?? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/339674158596358145/823906790227050516/level-stats.png

and 69 level

lmao

[half harness]

since i dont think spigot would allow non-plugins

[onyx loom]

ecloud dkim

[half harness]

can u link

plz

[onyx loom]

https://api.extendedclip.com/home/

[half harness]

i have zoom open so my browser is slow 😫

[onyx loom]

if ur making an expansion for a plugin just put it inside the jar (if its ur plugin)

[static zealot]

Also you can put them on spigot. There's loads of other resources other than plugins. Including expansions. but you can just get cube to put it on the ecloud

or make you an account

[half harness]

cube?

👀

[onyx loom]

funnycube

[half harness]

Registration is currently locked. If you feel it is necessary to create an account, please join our discord and get in touch with us.

oop

[onyx loom]

yes he has to make the account

then u can do the rest urself

[half harness]

ohhh

yes

primitives aren't objects

BUT

i misspelled maybe -_-

[forest pecan]

i think it could work

cause java supports autoboxing

[half harness]

ya

T > Object

[eternal compass]

@half harness :p

[half harness]

rip

[eternal compass]

my CPU

[half harness]

like me

[forest pecan]

you mean ? right

[hot hull]

1.19 sheesh

[eternal compass]

it has 8 threads though

[half harness]

no

[onyx loom]

laptop im guessing?

[forest pecan]

you need to define T tho

[half harness]

yea

1 sec

lemme get example

[eternal compass]

its a I-5, but its pretty nice for a laptop

[onyx loom]

i5 what gen?

[eternal compass]

1035G1

[onyx loom]

cool

[oblique heath]

that's pretty good

[eternal compass]

yeah

[half harness]

public <T> T getT(T obj) { return obj; }
```something like this

[forest pecan]

oh you mean in a method

lmao

[half harness]

yes

[forest pecan]

cause

ArrayList<?>

anyways, my library is getting kinda thicc

in size

which

[half harness]

mine?

[onyx loom]

generics

[half harness]

lol

it can also be E

and A

etc

[hot hull]

no u

[half harness]

yes

[oblique heath]

do you guys think it's worth it for me to wait for zen 3 laptops to come out and get one of those, or get an intel 11th gen laptop with iris xe graphics

[half harness]

afaik

[forest pecan]

you pass in some variable with some type T, and it returns the same type (and it's defined in the method header)

[onyx loom]

K, V

[onyx loom]

zen 3

[forest pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/hungry-kid-chubby-gif-8151217

[half harness]

T just stands for Type

just conventions

K, V means key and value

[forest pecan]

ArrayList<Void>

[half harness]

wot

mutableListOf<Unit>()

[onyx loom]

Void lol

[forest pecan]

this aint kotlin

lmao

[half harness]

ik

isn't void a "primitive"

sorta

not really

[forest pecan]

its not

this is literally the whole "Void" class

/*
 * Copyright (c) 1996, 2011, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved.
 * ORACLE PROPRIETARY/CONFIDENTIAL. Use is subject to license terms.
 *
 *
 *
 *
 *
 *
 *
 *
 *
 *
 *
 *
 *
 *
 *
 *
 *
 *
 *
 *
 */

package java.lang;

/**
 * The {@code Void} class is an uninstantiable placeholder class to hold a
 * reference to the {@code Class} object representing the Java keyword
 * void.
 *
 * @author  unascribed
 * @since   JDK1.1
 */
public final
class Void {

    /**
     * The {@code Class} object representing the pseudo-type corresponding to
     * the keyword {@code void}.
     */
    @SuppressWarnings("unchecked")
    public static final Class<Void> TYPE = (Class<Void>) Class.getPrimitiveClass("void");

    /*
     * The Void class cannot be instantiated.
     */
    private Void() {}
}

lol

[half harness]

oh its a thing?

btw

can't u make an instance with reflection?

[onyx loom]

why would u

[half harness]

lol

[stuck harbor]

i just realised

all the pseudocode ive been writing

its just lua

[forest pecan]

you cant use reflection to access it lol

import java.lang.reflect.Constructor;
import java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException;
import java.util.ArrayList;
import java.util.List;

public class JavaTests {

  private static Void ELEMENT;

  static {
    try {
      final Constructor<Void> CONSTRUCTOR = Void.class.getDeclaredConstructor();
      ELEMENT = CONSTRUCTOR.newInstance();
    } catch (final NoSuchMethodException
        | IllegalAccessException
        | InstantiationException
        | InvocationTargetException e) {
      e.printStackTrace();
    }
  }

  public static void main(final String[] args) {
    final List<Void> voidList = new ArrayList<>();
    voidList.add(ELEMENT);
  }
}

[half harness]

rip

:c

what happens if u try?

[forest pecan]

java.lang.IllegalAccessException: Class com.github.pulsebeat02.minecraftmedialibrary.test.java.JavaTests can not access a member of class java.lang.Void with modifiers "private"
    at sun.reflect.Reflection.ensureMemberAccess(Reflection.java:102)
    at java.lang.reflect.AccessibleObject.slowCheckMemberAccess(AccessibleObject.java:296)
    at java.lang.reflect.AccessibleObject.checkAccess(AccessibleObject.java:288)
    at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:413)
    at com.github.pulsebeat02.minecraftmedialibrary.test.java.JavaTests.<clinit>(JavaTests.java:28)

[half harness]

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

[lunar cypress]

you'd need to set it to be accessible first

[half harness]

ooooo

[forest pecan]

oh wait

[half harness]

lol

[lunar cypress]

Depending on the version this may or may not work

[forest pecan]

i forgot that

lol

oh shit

it works for java 8

lmao

though for higher versions

when they enforced encapsulation

i would be worried

[half harness]

java 8 ftw

[forest pecan]

it doesnt do anything

there arent any methods or anything lol

for the Void class

[half harness]

lol

what if u try returning it in a method

wdym

[forest pecan]

pretty sure it would be the same

for methods too

[half harness]

||im still confused||

[lunar cypress]

still works with unsafe definitely

[stuck harbor]

i hate testing

i despise it

[lunar cypress]

jshell> unsafe.allocateInstance(Void.class)
$6 ==> java.lang.Void@3e6fa38a```

[stuck harbor]

its soooo boring

almost as boring as making those graph thingies

[forest pecan]

oh lmao

[stuck harbor]

ya know

algorythm graph thingies

ya know

imagine using discord's default layout

compact gang

[prisma wave]

"decent type inference" F# has type inference for pretty much everything

[stuck harbor]

hehe

i do enjoy clojure type hints

emphasise hints

[prisma wave]

hint hint

[stuck harbor]

[JavaPlugin^ this]
``` iirc

[prisma wave]

I thought the ^ was first

But yeah

[stuck harbor]

maybe

idk

i havent done it in a while

[prisma wave]

Me neither

[lunar cypress]

Yes, ^ is the symbol to attach meta to an object

[stuck harbor]

ive been busy setting up macos in kvm

i mean

nothing

nope

im not using qemu

not at all

[forest pecan]

macos?

[stuck harbor]

we are all law abiding citizens here officer

i am not happy that i bought a processor with an iGPU cause i can pass it thru

that isnt happening

because i am not emulating a mac

[prisma wave]

Oh and java has type inference too. You're describing language features not a "smarter compiler*

[quiet depot]

what

i am not happy that i bought a processor with an iGPU cause i can pass it thru
that isnt happening

you can you can pass it thru

you say you're not happy about it

but then you say it isn't happening

so you are happy about it?

[stuck harbor]

i

uh

dw i'n casau pel droed achos mae'n ddiflas iawn

whee

run away

[quiet depot]

what language is that

[prisma wave]

horrible language

[quiet depot]

is that even a lang

[stuck harbor]

man

[quiet depot]

i only know one phrase from another language, japanese

ore wa ochinchin ga daisuki nandayo

[prisma wave]

welsh 🤢

[quiet depot]

and it's not even in japenese chars

[stuck harbor]

sadge

[onyx loom]

weeb

[old wyvern]

Omae wa mou shindeiru. Nani?

[stuck harbor]

i bet bm agrees with me tho

[quiet depot]

@old wyvern I think that actually makes sense

[old wyvern]

wdym?

[quiet depot]

like as a response to what I wrote

I think it actually makes sense

[old wyvern]

oh xD

[prisma wave]

Agrees with what

[stuck harbor]

what i said

yn gymraeg

[onyx loom]

shut it sheep shagger

[stuck harbor]

shut it

[old wyvern]

tf

lmao

[quiet depot]

yeah that's not a good translation

[prisma wave]

[old wyvern]

What does it actually mean?

[quiet depot]

because I really, really love pee pee

[old wyvern]

lol

[onyx loom]

😳

[prisma wave]

speak english

[stuck harbor]

no

[prisma wave]

wales contributes nothing to society

[quiet depot]

chinchin is like childish slang for penis in japanese

[prisma wave]

Apart from being inbred

[stuck harbor]

man

[old wyvern]

I see

[quiet depot]

ore wa is a masculine introduction, like a manly way of introducing yourself

[stuck harbor]

what has england contributed, hm bm?

hmmm?

[prisma wave]

genocide

[stuck harbor]

yes

[quiet depot]

and I believe the nandayo is what introduces the "because", but I don't actually know japanese

so yeah

[stuck harbor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMldOiiG1Ko

steve be so sweaty doe

[prisma wave]

he's no simon

[stuck harbor]

he's more than simon could ever be

[old wyvern]

ore wa piggeh pigletto, Hito 々!, Watashi o osoreru

[quiet depot]

simon cowell?

lol yugi

[stuck harbor]

simon peyton jones u cretin

[quiet depot]

one of your chars didn't translate

[prisma wave]

Simon Peyton-Jones

[old wyvern]

xD

[old wyvern]

😌

The pioneer

[quiet depot]

wtf

what does that sentence even mean

[old wyvern]

Which?

[quiet depot]

yours

[old wyvern]

"The pioneer"?

[quiet depot]

no

[prisma wave]

when you see a monad

[quiet depot]

the japanese one

[old wyvern]

oh

[quiet depot]

sorry when I described ore wa

[lunar cypress]

wtf is that picture

[quiet depot]

it's not like a full introduction

it's literally just "I"

in english

[old wyvern]

Probably doesnt mean anything, was trying for an anime like introduction xD

[quiet depot]

but imagine you're saying it with batman voice

[old wyvern]

ooo

lmao

[old wyvern]

👀

Looks like man misplaced his kleisli arrow

[prisma wave]

it's Simon when he sees something with monadic properties, or in other words, a monad

Man can't get a good picture of himself

[quiet depot]

whos simon

[stuck harbor]

simon

[quiet depot]

did he create haskell

[stuck harbor]

simon is the god of monads

[prisma wave]

not exclusively

But he had a very big part in it

[old wyvern]

This is the best one

Still haunts me

[prisma wave]

😫 😖

every night

[old wyvern]

xD

[old wyvern]

Mostly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re96UgMk6GQ

[prisma wave]

wisest man on earth

[old wyvern]

truely

[quiet depot]

fixed him

[old wyvern]

oh god

[quiet depot]

thanks dkim

[prisma wave]

thanks dkim

[quiet depot]

that play button really adds a lot

[half harness]

yes

the play button is magical

because it makes the picture move

you see

[half harness]

oh no

[old wyvern]

Wait

I have the perfect thing

[half harness]

np

[half harness]

np

[stuck harbor]

i bet simon runs centos

ffs

[prisma wave]

simon went to cambridge 😩

[stuck harbor]

sadge

[prisma wave]

how

How could he do this to us

[stuck harbor]

shoulda gone to icl

[prisma wave]

the same uni that EVIL Alan Turing went to 😫

[stuck harbor]

lol

cambridge does have one of the oldest CS departments in the world

but man

why would u go to the south east

and not go to london

thats just dumb

[stuck harbor]

there is nothing else in the south east

[prisma wave]

Since when is cambridge in the south east

[stuck harbor]

uh

[onyx loom]

was thinking same

[stuck harbor]

thats

where it is

no?

[prisma wave]

it's like central east

[stuck harbor]

meh england is just north or london

[prisma wave]

It's further north than london lol

[stuck harbor]

north or london

those are the two england options

[onyx loom]

"south east"

[stuck harbor]

it is

you just cut off the entire north

[prisma wave]

north or london

[stuck harbor]

u nerd

[onyx loom]

south east

[prisma wave]

Cursed

[prisma wave]

Even more cursed

[quiet depot]

yugi

do that

but with my pic

[old wyvern]

one sec

xD

[stuck harbor]

cambridge is in the south east

[onyx loom]

wrong

pretty sure that would come under east midlands county

[stuck harbor]

south east is south of norwich and east of sheffield

[prisma wave]

Yeah

Maybe south east of uk

But definitely not south east england

[stuck harbor]

who was talking about england?

i wasn't

i said 'the south east'

[onyx loom]

ok sorry mr "i live in an irrelevant place called wales"

[stuck harbor]

shut

[old wyvern]

whales

whalecum

[stuck harbor]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-48622001

[quiet depot]

aus has a place called new south wales

'murica has new england

[old wyvern]

holy shit

This has scarred

me

[onyx loom]

classic donald trump

[forest pecan]

wtf lmao

[quiet depot]

what the actual fuck

[forest pecan]

XD

[old wyvern]

😂

[quiet depot]

someone needs to make him aware of this

does he use twitter?

[stuck harbor]

don't

[old wyvern]

xD

[stuck harbor]

halt

nein

[lunar cypress]

please don't

[prisma wave]

wales deserves to be misspelled

[stuck harbor]

okay unglund

[prisma wave]

wails

[stuck harbor]

you have a queen

you nerds

[prisma wave]

you don't

wait yes you do

[onyx loom]

lol

[stuck harbor]

no we don't 👀

[onyx loom]

"the commonwealth"

[stuck harbor]

"communwulth"

england don't even have their own language

[onyx loom]

[stuck harbor]

stole america's language

[stuck harbor]

nerds

[prisma wave]

gn

[stuck harbor]

false

google are royalist scum

:))

[prisma wave]

she is still your queen

Whether you like it or not

[stuck harbor]

pfffft

[prisma wave]

because welsh people aren't smart enough to be independent

[stuck harbor]

👀

[ocean quartz]

I wake up and first thing i see is this ..
I'm going back to sleep

[onyx loom]

scotland Independence tho 🤣

[stuck harbor]

k lets not get into politics man

[old wyvern]

😂

it will get you in your sleep

dw

[prisma wave]

why not

[onyx loom]

^

[stuck harbor]

because if u get me going on welsh/scottish independance

im not going to stop

[prisma wave]

go on

[onyx loom]

go on

[stuck harbor]

cymru am byth

[onyx loom]

blah blah blah

talk english

[stuck harbor]

nag ydw

[prisma wave]

those are made up words

[stuck harbor]

welsh is older than english

[prisma wave]

speak an actual language

[stuck harbor]

[prisma wave]

slepqlqnif qpalqlslwq asowoysyt

[stuck harbor]

who got invaded by the romans first, hm?

[onyx loom]

are we talking iterations of english too?

[stuck harbor]

'iterations' pfft

[ocean quartz]

Why does the UK still has royalty? Didn't y'all learn from the French that you have to cut their heads off?

[stuck harbor]

bretonic

[onyx loom]

because welsh looks like a very first form of english, just jumbled up letters

[stuck harbor]

yes

[prisma wave]

we're working on it

[stuck harbor]

welsh became more english-like when we were invaded

sadge

[prisma wave]

Unfortunately our royals don't starve us so we don't really have an excuse for a revolution

[onyx loom]

good

[stuck harbor]

england has no cuisine

have u ever had welsh cakes?

[onyx loom]

and welsh does hello?

🤣

[stuck harbor]

we do

need i link some

[onyx loom]

welsh cakes wtf are them? what ur mom bakes when ur 5?

[stuck harbor]

https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/howto/guide/top-10-foods-try-wales

[onyx loom]

hello son were gonna make some cakes today, get the flour!

[stuck harbor]

welsh cakes are like scones but better

[onyx loom]

highly debatable

[prisma wave]

they can't be better if they have welsh in the name

[stuck harbor]

welsh rarebit is awesome

much better than cheeese on toast

[lunar cypress]

Not to get political but

[onyx loom]

good song ngl

[ocean quartz]

Tell me whyyy

[stuck harbor]

tell me whyyy

[prisma wave]

rich 😩 😩

I'd let him give me a rich hickey

[onyx loom]

🤨

[prisma wave]

?

[stuck harbor]

what

[forest pecan]

the wiki is down!! https://wiki.bristermitten.me/main

save us!!!

[half harness]

uh

serious or not serious?

[onyx loom]

disgraceful behaviour @prisma wave

[forest pecan]

click on it

!!!

[half harness]

👀

[hot hull]

Anyone got 5min to hop on a server and help me with something?

cba to get an alt on

[onyx loom]

sir what is ur internet protocol address

[hot hull]

frosty.op65n.tech:25583

include the port cause yes

[onyx loom]

lol

[hot hull]

can't be asked to add this one to bungee

[stuck harbor]

bm

ur 502'ing

rip

tf is caprover

lazy bm cant even make an nginx config

[prisma wave]

WTF

[oblique heath]

poor wiki

[prisma wave]

Saves me a lot of effort

1 click to host docker image

[oblique heath]

make your own docker image with your own config 🧠

[old wyvern]

James gosling roll

[stuck harbor]

pfft bm

just use hestiacp

and make ur own docker template

[winter iron]

plugins {
    kotlin("jvm") version "1.4.31"
}

group = "me.senseiju"
version = "0.0.1"

repositories {
    mavenCentral()
}

subprojects {
    apply(plugin = "org.jetbrains.kotlin.jvm")

    dependencies {
        implementation(kotlin("stdlib-jdk8"))
    }
}

Cannot resolve external dependency org.jetbrains.kotlin:kotlin-stdlib-jdk8:1.4.31 because no repositories are defined.

the repo is there

[quiet depot]

move repo block into subprojects block

[winter iron]

same thing :/

plugins {
    kotlin("jvm") version "1.4.31"
}

group = "me.senseiju"
version = "0.0.1"

subprojects {
    apply(plugin = "org.jetbrains.kotlin.jvm")

    repositories {
        mavenCentral()
    }

    dependencies {
        implementation(kotlin("stdlib-jdk8"))
    }
}

[half harness]

move it out

[winter iron]

Cannot resolve external dependency org.jetbrains.kotlin:kotlin-stdlib:1.4.31 because no repositories are defined.

[half harness]

and in

put it both

[winter iron]

2 blocks?

ok

[half harness]

yes

[winter iron]

Oh

why is that then

[half harness]

iirc u need the repo in both subprojects and base

[winter iron]

i guess plugins uses the outside block

and subprojects use inside block?

[quiet depot]

what happens if u use allprojects instead of subprojects

[winter iron]

erm

same thing

if i have it outside only

[quiet depot]

put it inside

with allprojects

[winter iron]

works good inside

🙂

[quiet depot]

yeah

up to u then

allprojects or duplicate repos

[winter iron]

allprojects

[quiet depot]

good choice

[winter iron]

does it matter much except for that

[quiet depot]

no

[winter iron]

gucci

[half harness]

o my

thats some teacher

😬

[ocean quartz]

You got net.minecraft.servered?

[half harness]

😂

[forest pecan]

it got deleted

from the bot

why is your teacher so mean

lmao

and what are they teaching you abt in general

[hot hull]

If this cunt knows there's a semi colon missing why doesn't it just add it itself!

[onyx loom]

this would not be a problem in kotlin!

[hot hull]

stfu

[onyx loom]

sorry

[hot hull]

When the framework forces you not to make mistakes and be a dumbass

@onyx loom hop on I need more hulp

or Ivan if you got time

[oblique heath]

i can hop on sure

[prisma wave]

Ok

So

[oblique heath]

yes

[prisma wave]

        let top_index = -1
        let top_val = -1
        let cur_index = 0

        replicateM 8 $ do
            input_line <- getLine
            let mountainh = read input_line :: Int 

            let myIf top_index = if top_val < mountainh
                then cur_index
                else top_index

            let myOtherIf top_val = if top_val < mountainh
                then mountainh
                else top_val



            let cur_index = cur_index + 1
            return ()
      print top_index -- always prints -1

[oblique heath]

yis

[prisma wave]

Do you still have the original problem or has it ended

[oblique heath]

i still have it

At the start of each game turn, you are given the height of the 8 mountains from left to right.
By the end of the game turn, you must fire on the highest mountain by outputting its index (from 0 to 7).

Firing on a mountain will only destroy part of it, reducing its height. Your ship descends after each pass.  

[hot hull]

ooh where's that problem from

[oblique heath]

clashofcode

it's a practice problem

[hot hull]

I waiting

[oblique heath]

booting up 😂

[hot hull]

slow sm

smh

[oblique heath]

i'm in

so if i can't change the value of my int variables

do i need to use like a class or whatever haskell has instead

[prisma wave]

It's best to not think of them as "variables", since they can't ever change

[oblique heath]

sure

is this a situation for one of those fancy pants monads

not that i know what those are

[prisma wave]

A little bit

You'll need monads to get the user input

The issue you're having is you're thinking about the problem in the wrong way

I can't really put it into words so I'll just describe how I would do it

[oblique heath]

okay

[prisma wave]

Are you familiar with map and filter?

[oblique heath]

not really 🥲

that's a stream api right

[hot hull]

yes

[oblique heath]

i've seen it in luckperms and tried using it once or twice, but i'm definitely not confident in my understanding of it

[hot hull]

It's really simple, filter filters out items for a given condition, and map maps the items to a given thingy

[old wyvern]

map takes a wrapper value, applies a function on the value and returns the another wrapped value

[hot hull]

I said it better Yugi

<o/

[old wyvern]

Filter similarly, but keeps only the ones that satisfy a given condition

[old wyvern]

😮

[oblique heath]

so do I have to put the entirety of the user input code inside of a stream

or something

[old wyvern]

Well no

Its not a stream

But rather you use getLine which returns a a generic IO value

[prisma wave]

The stream API is strongly based off of FP

[old wyvern]

You then either use bind on what or use the shorthand in a do block

[oblique heath]

FP?

oh functional programming

[prisma wave]

Functional programming

Yeah

[oblique heath]

so i have to get all of the user input as a list

and pass that into a map

[old wyvern]

Basically you are providing it a combined function that should be applied on the input to bring it down to your use case

No no

You dont need a list

Map is more generic

[old wyvern]

.

Wrapped* btw

[oblique heath]

i guess where i'm confused right now is

when exactly do i ask for user input

relative to when i'm using map

[old wyvern]

getLine

[stuck harbor]

FFFFFFF

PPPPPP

[oblique heath]

like do i get all 8 values first, then pass those into map

or do i ask for each value within the function i call in map

though i guess that second one doesnt make sense

[prisma wave]

replicateM actually collects all of the values into a list for you

[old wyvern]

main = getLine >>= putStrln

This takes an input and prints it

[oblique heath]

ah so i'd be working with the list returned by replicateM

and i dont want any extra code inside of it itself

[prisma wave]

So you can do ```hs
inputList <- replicateM 8 $ do
line <- getLine
getLine :: Int

That should give you every input as an int

In a [Int]

[old wyvern]

No bm

You need the arrow

[prisma wave]

where?

[old wyvern]

Instead of the let binding

[prisma wave]

Oh right yeah

Fixed

I think

[old wyvern]

inputList <-  replicateM 8 (getLine :: IO Int)

[prisma wave]

Even better

[old wyvern]

This probably works

Emphasis on probably

😂

[prisma wave]

So then you can just find the max element in the list with maximum, and then elemIndex to get the index of that maximum value

Easy

[oblique heath]

so with this default code

replicateM 8 $ do
input_line <- getLine
let mountainh = read input_line :: Int 
return ()

do i change the return statement to (mountainh) to get replicateM to return a list

[prisma wave]

Return isn't a statement 🙂

[old wyvern]

Mhm

[prisma wave]

But yeah you can do return mountainh and it should mean replicateM gives an IO [Int]

[oblique heath]

what's the correct term

[old wyvern]

return converts the given value to an IO value

[prisma wave]

return is just a function

^

[oblique heath]

i see

[old wyvern]

return () is IO Unit

Or IO ()

[prisma wave]

It turns a normal value into a monadic value

[old wyvern]

Since () is unit

Oh is it is MonadIO bm?

[prisma wave]

wot

[old wyvern]

The constraint

[prisma wave]

return is part of the IO monad (or any monad) no?

Idk

[oblique heath]

what are the differences between IO [Int] and just an int

[old wyvern]

That onr allows for both the IO monad and Maybe I think

Maybe even more

Not sure what the constraint ensures

[prisma wave]

[Int] is a pure list of integers

[oblique heath]

what does IO mean, and what do the square brackets mean

[old wyvern]

Square brackets = list

[prisma wave]

IO T represents a side effect that returns a T when completed

[oblique heath]

ah so [Int] is the equivalent to an int[] array in java

[prisma wave]

It's kind of like a Future

[prisma wave]

A mix of int[] and List<Integer> yeah

[oblique heath]

i see

[prisma wave]

So IO String isn't a string, it's an IO action that would give you a String when completed

[oblique heath]

right

is it only IO because it involves user input

in this case

[prisma wave]

pretty much yeah

Because user input obviously isn't pure, but we can make it pure with some monad magic

[oblique heath]

i guess this means i have to figure out the stream api in haskell

[prisma wave]

It's just the standard library in Haskell

Literally everything in FP is based around map and filter and reduce / fold

(well almost everything)

map (+ 1) [1..10] gives [2..11]

[oblique heath]

does map (+1) map (+1) [1..10] give [3..13]

is that the right syntax

[prisma wave]

You'll need a $ or () in between the 2 map calls but yes

[oblique heath]

ah

[prisma wave]

map (+1) $ map (+1) [1..10]

map (+1) (map (+1) [1..10]) or alternatively this

[oblique heath]

i see

the $ seems cleaner

[prisma wave]

Yeah it usually is

Fewer parentheses = better

[stuck harbor]

as a lisp user

[prisma wave]

lol

[stuck harbor]

i do not agree

very agreen't

[prisma wave]

even clojure has a similar thing

[stuck harbor]

u said fewer parens == better

which is false

[prisma wave]

The ->> macro is much cleaner than chaining map and filters the usual way

[oblique heath]

((((((no))))))

[stuck harbor]

(defun yes)

[oblique heath]

oo

[stuck harbor]

altho thats common lisp

defun

clojure is defn

[oblique heath]

how would ->> look for our [3..13] example

[onyx loom]

defun bceause everyone knows clojure bad and removes the fun

[prisma wave]

that's clojure lol

But

[oblique heath]

aw

[stuck harbor]

clojure in emacs :)))

emacs is written in lisp

emacs config is done in a lisp

so take that

[prisma wave]

(->> (range 1 10)
    (map #(+ 1 %))
    (map #(+ 1 %)))
``` this is the rough equivalent I think

but nobody sane would actually write that

[stuck harbor]

why not hm?

we are all sane

[oblique heath]

too many parentheses

[prisma wave]

because it could just be (range 3 12)

[stuck harbor]

not enough parentheses ngl

[stuck harbor]

fair

[prisma wave]

[1..10]
    |> List.map (+1)
    |> List.map (+1)
``` just for good measure

[oblique heath]

is that F#

[onyx loom]

🤤

[stuck harbor]

OUI

oops

caps

[prisma wave]

Yes

[oblique heath]

sexy

[prisma wave]

very sexy

[onyx loom]

whats the # here

[prisma wave]

lambdas

[onyx loom]

o

and the %?

[prisma wave]

basically it from kotlin

[onyx loom]

ah k

[oblique heath]

so literally "add one to it"

?

[lunar cypress]

In this particular case you'd use inc but yeah

[prisma wave]

yeah

[prisma wave]

Yup

[oblique heath]

that's actually nifty

[prisma wave]

yeah it's cute

currying is kinda hotter tho

[oblique heath]

i think i saw something about haskell and currying

what is that o.o

[prisma wave]

Partially applying a function

(+ 1) is currying

[oblique heath]

what makes it partial

[prisma wave]

Because you're not supplying all of the arguments to the + function

[oblique heath]

ah

so it just assumes the arguments that were left out

[prisma wave]

You're only supplying the first one, so you get a function as the returned value instead of a number

Not sure assume is the right word

It just returns a new function

[oblique heath]

aaah

so it's a function... that makes a function

[prisma wave]

Yup

[oblique heath]

interesting

[prisma wave]

The fancy term for that is a higher order function

And haskell does this for everything by default

add a b = a + b

The signature of add is Int -> Int -> Int

I.e, it's a function that takes an int and returns a function that takes an int and returns an int

[oblique heath]

ooo

so that's how you'd sort of get around only being able to have one param per function

[prisma wave]

Yeah

It looks like there's multiple parameters but in fact it's only 1

[lunar cypress]

it looks good enough because function application is just name arg

[oblique heath]

would haskell do this automatically for you for any function you write

[lunar cypress]

so foo bar baz => (foo bar) baz

[prisma wave]

Yep

[oblique heath]

as in you make a function that uses 10 different values

interesting

[prisma wave]

I never though of it like that, that's pretty cool

[lunar cypress]

still good practice to specify the signatures explicitly I've heard

[prisma wave]

yeah for anything that isn't very simple I think you're supposed to write the signatures

[lunar cypress]

but inference is still insane

it looks at the way you use your parameter and tries to find a matching type

[prisma wave]

yeah the inference is crazy

Although when you're new writing the signature sometimes helps you get more descriptive errors

Since if you messed up the function body, it might infer the parameters to something else, moving any error to the call site

[old wyvern]

Lint warns you if you dont specify type signature explicitly for top level functions

[prisma wave]

ah nice

?

hello

It doesn't ping you know

Sorry

[forest pecan]

should i have an annotation called "LegacyApi"

[cinder flare]

I think that's called "Deprecated"

[oblique heath]

^

[forest pecan]

nono

its a special annotation where it stores like the removal date

the date it should be added

papi has one similar

i think

[obtuse gale]

what?

[forest pecan]

@ApiStatus.ScheduledForRemoval(inVersion = "2.11.0")

Its a bit different

but you know

https://github.com/PlaceholderAPI/PlaceholderAPI/blob/87ea46a4ddb129fac7de8da49b7b5a90800761a0/src/main/java/me/clip/placeholderapi/expansion/PlaceholderExpansion.java#L255

[obtuse gale]

Yeah that's jetbrains annotations

[prisma wave]

Why would you not just deprecate it

Then you get IDE Warnings too

[forest pecan]

Oh

I see

[obtuse gale]

And the deprecated annotation has a variable for "scheduled for removal" or something

[forest pecan]

it does?

oh

uh wot

it doesnt

lmao

@Documented
@Retention(RetentionPolicy.RUNTIME)
@Target(value={CONSTRUCTOR, FIELD, LOCAL_VARIABLE, METHOD, PACKAGE, PARAMETER, TYPE})
public @interface Deprecated {
}

lmao

[onyx loom]

just use the ApiStatus one then

no point creating another annotation if one already exists in jetbrains

[forest pecan]

it says that isnt an annotation and idk why

[prisma wave]

And deprecate it too

Make ur own then ig

[obtuse gale]

https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/11/docs/api/java.base/java/lang/Deprecated.html#forRemoval()

[prisma wave]

Or just deprecate + javadocs

[prisma wave]

java 11

[forest pecan]

im using java 8

🥲

[obtuse gale]

I have that bookmarked

Not the annotation

The Java 11 docs

Ah, since java 9 anyway lol

[onyx loom]

pain

[forest pecan]

is it just me or annotation for ApiStatus

not showing

lol

[prisma wave]

paper 1.17 had better hurry up

[onyx loom]

java 8 be gone

[prisma wave]

about time

[hot hull]

java 11 be gone

[prisma wave]

Shame the timing doesn't sync up with java 17 being released

Since that's the next LTS

And making plugins on java 17 would actually be amazing

[obtuse gale]

Mojang better do, they been preparing for updating the bundled Java version

[lunar cypress]

I wonder what they'll put in jdk 17

with records instanceof pattern matching and switch expressions finally in the release, this could be a well-rounded version for once

[obtuse gale]

Valhalla 🥲

[lunar cypress]

COPIUM they will finish it

[prisma wave]

I will actually die if they do

Valhalla and Loom coming in 6 months time 😳

[onyx loom]

dont die!

[jovial warren]

Wait what

Valhalla and Loom are finally coming around?

Fucking about time

[lunar cypress]

no

[eternal compass]

was just looking at some things about potion effects, and this person was told to google it, and called it toxic, lol

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/player-addpotioneffect-paramenters-ambient.259892/

[lunar cypress]

fr though telling someone to look something up is fine if you can actually find a good and precise explanation for it, but "go test it" is just so stupid

I don't want to test and try to reverse engineer every spigot method with bad documentation

[eternal compass]

well asking what opaque means is stupid

you can google that

its not got anything to do with even spigot

[ocean quartz]

Check some of StackOverflow's replies, they'll eat you alive

[eternal compass]

my stackoverflow account was disabled for like 30d because I asked a "bad" question or something, even though I would spend about 30 minutes researching before asking

[lunar cypress]

there was no question about the meaning of opaque before they called the previous answer toxic

[onyx loom]

?tryandsee 🥲

[lunar cypress]

try it and see is justified if you already have something and you're asking if it will work

it's not a very efficient research method if you have a lot of different things

[eternal compass]

if you have a lot of things, then you need to test a lot of things..
its pretty darn easy to test it with opaque and with non-opaque particles or whatever it may be

[lunar cypress]

you are still more likely to get better insight from others because there is a lot you can miss or do wrong when you just try and guess what it does.

[forest pecan]

stackoverflow is super strict