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prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 2:36 PM

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Theoretically

quiet depot Mar 10, 2021, 2:36 PM

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it has to be closed and there has to be no references

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 2:36 PM

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Yeah

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And even then it's pretty unpredictable

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:36 PM

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hmm

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:36 PM

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Yeah but the GC is a really complex system that just kinda picks what it wants and can do some weird things sometimes

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Isn't it?

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:37 PM

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Might be worth it to ask chestly what he did

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:37 PM

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jovial warren Yeah but the GC is a really complex system that just kinda picks what it wants a...

Sadly yes🥲

quiet depot Mar 10, 2021, 2:37 PM

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chestly's thing is more comparable to dcevm afaik

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:37 PM

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ah, I just remember him saying something about getting classloaders gc'd

quiet depot Mar 10, 2021, 2:38 PM

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not sure

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I don't believe dcevm can even delete classes though

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:38 PM

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So GCing a class loader will also GC all of its classes right?

quiet depot Mar 10, 2021, 2:38 PM

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dcevm is pretty good but it too, in fact has limits

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 2:38 PM

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man i was gonna set up dcevm

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then i realised

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 2:38 PM

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How does bukkit handle double blocked blocks, ie. bed, Block will enclose both locations right?

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 2:38 PM

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if i want an efficient workflow, i wouldnt be using java

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or the jvm

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:38 PM

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Since the class loader is what is keeping the classes loaded

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:39 PM

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jovial warren So GCing a class loader will also GC all of its classes right?

For the classloader to be gcable, anything that holds reference to it must not be reachable

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so yes

quiet depot Mar 10, 2021, 2:39 PM

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yes bardy, but to gc a class loader it has to be closed and there musn't be a single reference to one of its classes

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ensuring there aren't any references is a particularly difficult thing

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:39 PM

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Yeah

quiet depot Mar 10, 2021, 2:39 PM

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and that in general is why it's so "unpredictable" afaik

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because while it may seem that you've eliminated all references

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:39 PM

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Especially if another plugin uses it as a dependency and so holds a reference to it

quiet depot Mar 10, 2021, 2:39 PM

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you in fact haven't, for some peculiar reason

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:39 PM

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E.g. an API

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:40 PM

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Yea you're probably better of allowing the plugin to manage its own "reload"

quiet depot Mar 10, 2021, 2:40 PM

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you need a mix of both for a true reload

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there has to be management on both ends

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:40 PM

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If the plugin has an API that other plugins are using then surely those other plugins would need their class loaders destroyed too to remove the references they have

quiet depot Mar 10, 2021, 2:40 PM

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the plugin, and only the plugin, is capable of removing references to itself from its dependencies

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but krypton, and only krypton, should be responsible for removing references to the plugin from krypton

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 2:41 PM

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jovial warren If the plugin has an API that other plugins are using then surely those other pl...

I believe so

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Which makes things even more difficult

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If you just want to reload one plugin

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:41 PM

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Yeah

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:41 PM

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quiet depot but krypton, and only krypton, should be responsible for removing references to ...

Of course

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:42 PM

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You can isolate a classloader right?

quiet depot Mar 10, 2021, 2:42 PM

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jovial warren If the plugin has an API that other plugins are using then surely those other pl...

no, because the classes that are being provided to that api are loaded through the plugin's classloader

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:42 PM

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Well, if a plugin depends on the server and reflectively accesses and controls the class loader and unloads the classes then there's nothing I can do about that ofc (in response to only Krypton being able to remove references to itself)

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:42 PM

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old wyvern You can isolate a classloader right?

I mean like Isolate a group of classes A from another group B?

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 2:43 PM

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old wyvern I mean like Isolate a group of classes A from another group B?

Java modules might be the way to go there

quiet depot Mar 10, 2021, 2:43 PM

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reflectively accesses and controls the class loader and unloads the classes

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this isn't possible

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classes are stored in 3 places in a url class loader

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you can remove a class from all 3 places but it'll still be loaded

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:43 PM

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prisma wave Java modules might be the way to go there

Oh they can make classes completely inaccessible?

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Even reflectively, I mean

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:44 PM

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quiet depot you can remove a class from all 3 places but it'll still be loaded

Kinda weird

quiet depot Mar 10, 2021, 2:44 PM

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yep

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it makes me think something is going on natively

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:44 PM

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Maybe I should fight fire with fire then

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A.k.a write some native stuff to destroy stuff on the JVM

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:45 PM

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uh

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no

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 2:45 PM

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native keyword

quiet depot Mar 10, 2021, 2:45 PM

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such stuff could only be integrated into the jvm itself (afaik)

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 2:45 PM

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old wyvern Oh they can make classes completely inaccessible?

I'm not sure but I think that's what broke pdm, the JVM internals were placed in an inaccessible module

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:45 PM

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But then I risk fucking the JVM itself

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Which would be beyond a bad day

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:46 PM

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prisma wave I'm not sure but I think that's what broke pdm, the JVM internals were placed in...

ahh I see, if thats the case, would it not be possible to provide such an isolated env with intermediate "channels" for communication that is managed by krypton?

quiet depot Mar 10, 2021, 2:46 PM

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You don't need intermediate channels

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an intermediate channel is just another place for references to be misplaced, making it even harder to unload a classloader

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:47 PM

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quiet depot an intermediate channel is just another place for references to be misplaced, ma...

How so?

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:47 PM

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Wait so I can shut off access to a module reflectively?

quiet depot Mar 10, 2021, 2:47 PM

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there's no reason communication can't happen directly between plugin classloaders

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:47 PM

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You can do that?

quiet depot Mar 10, 2021, 2:47 PM

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yes

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:47 PM

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Oh you mean by passing instances of classes loaded from one side of the group

quiet depot Mar 10, 2021, 2:47 PM

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you can access a class from another classloader

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:47 PM

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No, the other thing I said

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With modules

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:48 PM

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quiet depot you can access a class from another classloader

Is there no way at all to isolate them?

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:48 PM

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You can deny reflective access through modules?

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:48 PM

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bm mentioned that modules do something similar

frigid badge Mar 10, 2021, 2:48 PM

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smh

quiet depot Mar 10, 2021, 2:48 PM

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I'm not experienced enough with modules to comment on that

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:48 PM

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Altho Im not at all familiar with how java 9+ modules work

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 2:48 PM

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Me neither

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I'm probably completely wrong tbh

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:48 PM

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Might be interesting to see

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:49 PM

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Well then, guess it'll be google time when I get home

quiet depot Mar 10, 2021, 2:49 PM

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good luck lol

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:49 PM

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If so, you could hook up something similar to interprocess communication

quiet depot Mar 10, 2021, 2:49 PM

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I'm pretty sure we've gone through pretty much everything to cover in this topic

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:49 PM

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like in AIDL

quiet depot Mar 10, 2021, 2:50 PM

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aidl?

frigid badge Mar 10, 2021, 2:50 PM

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but to be completely honest, what's the use of reloading the jar itself

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:50 PM

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quiet depot aidl?

Android's way of simplifying inter-process com.

frigid badge Mar 10, 2021, 2:50 PM

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nobody in production would do this, only reloading configurations or data is useful

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:50 PM

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https://developer.android.com/guide/components/aidl

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:50 PM

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BM you're right

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https://www.baeldung.com/java-9-modularity

Baeldung

A Guide to Java 9 Modularity | Baeldung

Learn the essentials of building and using modules in Java 9. Start down the path of modularizing your code today.

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 2:51 PM

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yay

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 2:51 PM

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java... 9?

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whats that

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:51 PM

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Module privacy applies to reflection too

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 2:51 PM

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no java since java 8

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 2:51 PM

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frigid badge nobody in production would do this, only reloading configurations or data is use...

Yeah I agree. Reloading in production is dumb, and if things break in development you can just full restart

quiet depot Mar 10, 2021, 2:52 PM

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welp, i'm off for the night, fun chat lads, glad I could finally use my obscure urlclassloader knowledge

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:52 PM

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lol

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 2:52 PM

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goodnight

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big brain conversation man

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:52 PM

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gn

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:52 PM

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quiet depot welp, i'm off for the night, fun chat lads, glad I could finally use my obscure ...

Gn

frigid badge Mar 10, 2021, 2:52 PM

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gn

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:52 PM

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prisma wave Yeah I agree. Reloading in production is dumb, and if things break in developmen...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

frigid badge Mar 10, 2021, 2:52 PM

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I mean it would be fun to create ngl

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but actual safe use

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eh

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 2:53 PM

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gn

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:53 PM

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But also a nightmare

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 2:53 PM

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bonne nuit

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Now the serious discussion is over...

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:53 PM

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Also, I want Krypton to be at least somewhat idiot friendly

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 2:53 PM

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EVM will support native hotswapping and unloading everything

frigid badge Mar 10, 2021, 2:53 PM

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evm u funny man

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where is compilation to arm???

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 2:54 PM

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arm is useless

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:54 PM

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Like you know that someone's gonna /reload and break everything

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:54 PM

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prisma wave arm is useless

doge_ahaha

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 2:54 PM

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Simple? EVM
Lightweight? EVM
Portable? EVM
Fast? EVM

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:54 PM

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frigid badge where is compilation to arm???

Elara has its own architecture

frigid badge Mar 10, 2021, 2:54 PM

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Hotel? Trivago

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 2:54 PM

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EVM can do everything arm does but better

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:54 PM

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prisma wave Simple? EVM Lightweight? EVM Portable? EVM Fast? EVM

Yeah gl

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:54 PM

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EVM will be superceeded by ERM

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:54 PM

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Gl

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 2:54 PM

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😳

frigid badge Mar 10, 2021, 2:54 PM

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🤣

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:54 PM

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!!!

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:54 PM

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ERM = ?

frigid badge Mar 10, 2021, 2:55 PM

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🍋 RM better

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:55 PM

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jovial warren ERM = ?

#dev-general message

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xD

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 2:55 PM

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Lmao

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elara instruction set

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only 1 instruction

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:55 PM

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EIS

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:55 PM

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Quantum machine haha

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 2:55 PM

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let

frigid badge Mar 10, 2021, 2:56 PM

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will elara ever finish though

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 2:56 PM

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sure

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Eventually

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:56 PM

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frigid badge will elara ever finish though

Fake news

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:56 PM

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prisma wave only 1 instruction

Sounds like something out of the 80's

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 2:56 PM

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you may laugh

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But the 80s taught people how to optimise code

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 2:56 PM

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80s? 🤔

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 2:56 PM

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And now elara is making fast code a reality again

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 2:56 PM

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more like the 40s

frigid badge Mar 10, 2021, 2:57 PM

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onyx loom 80s? 🤔

2080

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:57 PM

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prisma wave And now elara is making fast code a reality again

Try balancing speed with usability and reliability

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:57 PM

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nah man 80's = 8000s

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:57 PM

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Gl with that one

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 2:57 PM

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elara has all

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JVM is fast

frigid badge Mar 10, 2021, 2:57 PM

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ah shit you are right yugi

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 2:57 PM

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EVM is faster

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:57 PM

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This is technology far off into the future

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:57 PM

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prisma wave elara has all

Doesn't even exist yet lol

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:57 PM

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🥲

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 2:57 PM

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it does

lunar cypress Mar 10, 2021, 2:57 PM

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prisma wave And now elara is making fast code a reality again

But will it ever be the most compiled language?

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 2:57 PM

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Hmmm

frigid badge Mar 10, 2021, 2:57 PM

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prisma wave EVM is faster

and y'all bust even faster

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:57 PM

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lunar cypress But will it ever be the most compiled language?

No

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 2:57 PM

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yes

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:58 PM

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No

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 2:58 PM

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Is that a pcj reference

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 2:58 PM

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itll be taught in schools by 2022

lunar cypress Mar 10, 2021, 2:58 PM

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Maybe

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:58 PM

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Lets make a worm that makes every infected computer continuously compile Elara code

lunar cypress Mar 10, 2021, 2:58 PM

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This article was just too good to be serious

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:58 PM

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prisma wave Is that a pcj reference

Wat dis

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 2:58 PM

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r/programmingcirclejerk

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:58 PM

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Lol

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 2:58 PM

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old wyvern Lets make a worm that makes every infected computer continuously compile Elara c...

ez #1 compiled language

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 2:59 PM

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ikr

lunar cypress Mar 10, 2021, 2:59 PM

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https://medium.com/@rwxrob/significant-whitespace-is-still-the-devil-66d48674dc02

Medium

Significant Whitespace is Still the Devil

Facts from Google:

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 2:59 PM

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old wyvern Lets make a worm that makes every infected computer continuously compile Elara c...

https://tenor.com/WL0W.gif

Tenor

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:00 PM

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lunar cypress https://medium.com/@rwxrob/significant-whitespace-is-still-the-devil-66d48674dc0...

I swear if I see people using 2 or 8 space indents I'm actually going to jump off a cliff

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 3:00 PM

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I use 12, for that oompft

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:01 PM

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johnny do you have a link to that most compiled post

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:01 PM

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hot hull I use 12, for that `oompft`

Jump off a cliff

lunar cypress Mar 10, 2021, 3:01 PM

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I just posted it

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or do you mean the reddit post

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:01 PM

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Oh was that it?

lunar cypress Mar 10, 2021, 3:02 PM

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yeah that's the article

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:02 PM

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I swear, fucking Kyori uses 2 space, and I had to write with that when I added ZLIB to NBT

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:02 PM

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Ohh yeah hahaha

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I didn't even notice it

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:02 PM

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It was literally cancerous

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 3:02 PM

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jovial warren Jump off a cliff

Gladly

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:02 PM

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Cant you have your editor handle that conversion?

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:02 PM

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old wyvern Cant you have your editor handle that conversion?

Maybe

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:02 PM

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Absolutely

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:02 PM

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Just not nice to look at either though

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All the surrounding code

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:03 PM

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vim can do it in just 45 illegible lines

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Anyway yes, elara will definitely become the most compiled language

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:03 PM

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Lol

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:03 PM

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prisma wave Anyway yes, elara will definitely become the most compiled language

You wish

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:03 PM

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Orders of magnitude more compiled than competitors!

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:04 PM

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When pigs fly

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 3:04 PM

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pigs can in fact fly

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trust me on this

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:05 PM

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compile to IR
compile IR to kotlin
compile kotlin
Compile kotlin IR to java
Compile bytecode to native

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Ez

lunar cypress Mar 10, 2021, 3:05 PM

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jovial warren You wish

You make fun of us talking about the most compiled languages, yet we don't even know what that means. Curious

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:05 PM

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onyx loom pigs can in fact fly

You are either very optimistic, naive or deluded

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 3:05 PM

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i probably fit all of the above

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but thats besides the point

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elara will be the #1 compiled language!

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:06 PM

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Most compiled language in the world!

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:06 PM

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I swear you probably don't even know how a compiler works

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Kali

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 3:06 PM

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I don't

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You're right

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:06 PM

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thonking

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 3:06 PM

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whats that got to do with anything

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:06 PM

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it compiles

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simple

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 3:06 PM

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my point stands

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:06 PM

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Lol

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:06 PM

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aren't compilers just String#replace...?

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Seems pretty simple

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:06 PM

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yeah

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it just replaces the code with hex instructions

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:07 PM

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prisma wave aren't compilers just String#replace...?

Clearly

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:07 PM

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simple

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:07 PM

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Damn

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idk why people were saying it's hard to make a compiler

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:07 PM

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Did you know that there is a tiny Leprechaun inside your computer performing actions to make everything you do work?

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:08 PM

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Yeah but you can't make the most compiled language without first making a compiler to compile it

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 3:08 PM

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o

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soon™️

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:08 PM

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Lol

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:08 PM

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jovial warren Yeah but you can't make the most compiled language without first making a compil...

We're halfway there

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fingerguns

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:08 PM

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more than halfway

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Maybe

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:08 PM

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Maybe if BM forces Yugi to keep doing all the work then we might finally get there xD

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:08 PM

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mhm

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:08 PM

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Typer + compiler ez

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:09 PM

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jovial warren Maybe if BM forces Yugi to keep doing all the work then we might finally get the...

what

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blatantly untrue

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:09 PM

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I'm messing

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:09 PM

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🥲

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:09 PM

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No need to force anyone, its been less than a year since we even started

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:09 PM

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I did pretty much all of the interpreter

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Yeah exactly

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No rush

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:09 PM

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A fair amount of work has been done for that time frame

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:09 PM

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prisma wave blatantly untrue

I swear pretty much all the commits to the "compiler" are Yugi

frail glade Mar 10, 2021, 3:09 PM

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Wish we could say the same about PDM relocations.

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:09 PM

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anyway syntax rework first

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:09 PM

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frail glade Wish we could say the same about PDM relocations.

Ikr

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:09 PM

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frail glade Wish we could say the same about PDM relocations.

Me too

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That would be nice

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:10 PM

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You have a PR there

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:10 PM

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PDM rewrite when?

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:10 PM

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Literally just waiting

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:10 PM

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jovial warren I swear pretty much all the commits to the "compiler" are Yugi

There is no compiler

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Afaik

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There's the asm port

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:10 PM

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ew asm

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just use wasm

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nerds

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:10 PM

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lucko

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:10 PM

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Didn't realise yugi had done anything with that

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:10 PM

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relocation

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:10 PM

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stuck harbor ew asm

Wrong asm

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:10 PM

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it uses asm

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:10 PM

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I didnt

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:10 PM

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o

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:10 PM

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forest pecan lucko

Wat

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:10 PM

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Theres only 1 or 2 commits on the asm port

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:10 PM

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jovial warren Wat

luck's relocation

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:10 PM

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We have the parser, lexer and an interpretter rn

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typer is... in waiting for now

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:11 PM

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You talking about Luck's jar relocator?

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:11 PM

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yea

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:11 PM

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Ah

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:11 PM

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So rn typer and emitter left

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:11 PM

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It works pretty well

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:11 PM

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java tutorial pdm rewrite and typer coming tomorrow I guarantee it

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:11 PM

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also should i cache gson instances

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:11 PM

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prisma wave java tutorial pdm rewrite and typer coming tomorrow I guarantee it

😮

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:11 PM

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PDM Kotlin rewrite

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 3:11 PM

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cant wait

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:11 PM

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forest pecan also should i cache gson instances

Just make a constant

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In other words yes

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:11 PM

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kk

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:11 PM

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jovial warren PDM Kotlin rewrite

can't really

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 3:11 PM

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pdm kotlin rewrite doesnt make sense

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:12 PM

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is it fine if i have like one for each class

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:12 PM

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prisma wave can't really

Why not?

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:12 PM

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PDM lisp rewrite?

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:12 PM

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Because KOTLIN

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:12 PM

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pdm runtime needs to be embedded into every jar

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:12 PM

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Dependencies

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 3:12 PM

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phat stdlib

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:12 PM

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I need to keep that runtime small

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:12 PM

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old wyvern Because KOTLIN

Stfu lol

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:12 PM

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jovial warren Stfu lol

huh?

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:12 PM

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prisma wave pdm runtime needs to be embedded into every jar

Fair

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:12 PM

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Did you read the next message bard? xD

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:12 PM

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Yes

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:12 PM

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forest pecan is it fine if i have like one for each class

Easier to make a single one

#

and probably better

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:13 PM

#

Also, the dream of not having to shade Kotlin will finally come true with Krypton

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:13 PM

#

GsonProvider.getGson()

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:13 PM

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jovial warren Also, the dream of not having to shade Kotlin will finally come true with Krypto...

Ewwwwwwwwwww

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:13 PM

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all the gson i know is

set pretty printing

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:13 PM

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nauseated face

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:13 PM

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Actually no

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hmm

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:14 PM

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old wyvern ``GsonProvider.getGson()``

AbstractGsonProviderBuilderFactory

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:14 PM

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not Enterprise enough, sorry

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:14 PM

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Lol

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That is Enterprise that makes sense

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:15 PM

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AbstractGsonBuilderFactoryGetterBuilderSetterFactoryBaseAbstract.java

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:15 PM

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There we go

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:15 PM

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each one adds 1 new variable

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to the 'object'

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 3:16 PM

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stuck harbor all the gson i know is 1. set pretty printing

gson.toJson
gson.fromJson
🙂

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:16 PM

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lol

#

thats me

#

also

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transient

regal gale Mar 10, 2021, 3:16 PM

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I think Jackson is more on OOP?

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:16 PM

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jackson ewwwwwwww

#

ewwwww

#

ewwww

#

eww

#

🤢

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:17 PM

#

let str = toJson obj
let obj = fromJson 'Type str

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:17 PM

#

/**
 * Creates a new variable
 * @ApiNote might create a singularity and result in a black hole
 */
class AbstractGsonBuilderFactoryGetterBuilderSetterFactoryBaseAbstract {
  ...
}```

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:17 PM

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man those javadoc comments

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i have no javadoc comments

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cause i have no javadoc

#

cause implementing an API is harddd

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:18 PM

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okay

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:18 PM

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like sure

#

i can make a custom event

#

but then i have to

#

do maven shit

#

mvn central

#

utter headache

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:18 PM

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stuck harbor cause i have no javadoc

U bad

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:19 PM

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but whhyyy would i

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:19 PM

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prisma wave let str = toJson obj let obj = fromJson 'Type str

PlusOne

#

Reminds me of the pain that is Aeson tho

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:25 PM

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Dw elara json will be easy to use

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 3:25 PM

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In the year 2070 yes

pliant badger Mar 10, 2021, 3:26 PM

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Our grandchildren will code in elara

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:26 PM

#

imagine if torvalds made a language

pliant badger Mar 10, 2021, 3:26 PM

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It would be C

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:26 PM

#

yes it would

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:26 PM

#

he would make rust because rust is good

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:26 PM

#

rust is good

#

meh I'll turn into a microsoft stan and use Checked C

pliant badger Mar 10, 2021, 3:27 PM

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He said in one interview (if i remember correctly) that he thinks C is the perfect language

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:27 PM

#

🙄

#

man is insane

#

I bet he never tried any lisp

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 3:28 PM

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iwanio

#

please

pliant badger Mar 10, 2021, 3:28 PM

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I honestly i am not able to do any C or C++

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 3:28 PM

#

uve made atleast 3 clojure references in the past hour

pliant badger Mar 10, 2021, 3:28 PM

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memory management is just not for me

frail glade Mar 10, 2021, 3:28 PM

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It's really not as bad as you'd think.

#

It just makes some getting used to.

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:28 PM

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pliant badger memory management is just not for me

Have you heard of this up and coming Language called rust?

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Not very well known at the moment

pliant badger Mar 10, 2021, 3:28 PM

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I heard of rust

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:28 PM

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C has so many security poops caused by bad memory

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:29 PM

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stuck harbor C has so many security poops caused by bad memory

Rust doesn't have those problems

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:29 PM

#

exactly

pliant badger Mar 10, 2021, 3:29 PM

#

Low level stuff is preety hard to understand

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:29 PM

#

it is fast AND memory safe

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:29 PM

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pliant badger Low level stuff is preety hard to understand

calls C a low level language

#

pffffffffft

pliant badger Mar 10, 2021, 3:30 PM

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i know they are actually

#

high level languages

#

still

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:30 PM

#

They're low level nowadays

pliant badger Mar 10, 2021, 3:30 PM

#

for today standards

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:30 PM

#

man I'll make a game in 6502 assembly

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:30 PM

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Since people only know expensive garbage collected null safety array length

pliant badger Mar 10, 2021, 3:30 PM

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I can barely get done hello world in assembly

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:31 PM

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well yeah

#

duh

frigid badge Mar 10, 2021, 3:31 PM

#

that's ez

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:31 PM

#

just send the signals to the LCD

#

read the datasheet

#

u nerd

pliant badger Mar 10, 2021, 3:31 PM

#

Imagine reading docs

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:32 PM

#

it's the docs for ur CPU

#

boi

#

I'll install a 6502 into my workstation

regal gale Mar 10, 2021, 3:32 PM

#

Visual Basic reversed_fingerguns

pliant badger Mar 10, 2021, 3:32 PM

#

Iwanio is running discord on breadboards right now

#

big flex

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:33 PM

#

;)

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:34 PM

#

Electron 🤢

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:34 PM

#

🤢

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:34 PM

#

C memory management isn't even that hard

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:34 PM

#

torvalds probably thinks objective c is modern

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:35 PM

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jovial warren C memory management isn't even that hard

okay I'll go exploit all the memory bugs u have

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:35 PM

#

jovial warren C memory management isn't even that hard

Nobody's saying it's hard, it's just annoying to have to always think about

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:35 PM

#

I swear most things get destroyed automatically in C when they ain't in use anyway

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:35 PM

#

man I'll pointer you in a minute

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:35 PM

#

jovial warren I swear most things get destroyed automatically in C when they ain't in use anyw...

Not on the heap

#

Stack memory does obviously

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:35 PM

#

Yeah

#

Can't remember what the keyword for releasing memory is in C

regal gale Mar 10, 2021, 3:36 PM

#

prisma wave Electron 🤢

But i love electrical component stuffs 👀

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:36 PM

#

jovial warren Can't remember what the keyword for releasing memory is in C

free ?

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:37 PM

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regal gale But i love electrical component stuffs 👀

Those are the cool electrons

#

Github electron bad

regal gale Mar 10, 2021, 3:37 PM

#

Oh that, welp

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:38 PM

#

while (true) {
  System.gc(); 
}

#

what happens if i do this

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:38 PM

#

infinite loop

#

Same as an empty while true

#

Probably

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:38 PM

#

would it lag in between

#

well ig that depends

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 3:38 PM

#

death

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:39 PM

#

prisma wave free ?

Yeah quick google seemed to tell me it's a method not a keyword

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:39 PM

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forest pecan ```java while (true) { System.gc(); } ```

Yeah that would probably cause the JVM to overload

#

Also, 2 space indent

#

Leave

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:40 PM

#

google formatting

#

whats wrong

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:40 PM

#

prisma wave Github electron bad

Electron is really really good from what I've seen

lunar cypress Mar 10, 2021, 3:40 PM

#

jovial warren C memory management isn't even that hard

have you written a bigger C application?

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:40 PM

#

forest pecan google formatting

Wait what?

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:40 PM

#

yea

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:41 PM

#

That's in Google's official style guide?

#

No way

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:41 PM

#

you didn't know...

obtuse gale Mar 10, 2021, 3:41 PM

#

https://google.github.io/styleguide/javaguide.html#s4.2-block-indentation

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:41 PM

#

jovial warren Electron is really really good from what I've seen

It's convenient

#

But it's slow as hell

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:41 PM

#

whatthe

#

you just knew?

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:41 PM

#

obtuse gale <https://google.github.io/styleguide/javaguide.html#s4.2-block-indentation>

Omfg WHY

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:41 PM

#

forest pecan would it lag in between

Don't think so, System.gc doesn't necessarily actually cause a gc cycle

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:41 PM

#

Yeah

#

Fefo show bardy

obtuse gale Mar 10, 2021, 3:42 PM

#

I think my favorite part of that whole style guide is this
https://google.github.io/styleguide/javaguide.html#s6.4-finalizers

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:42 PM

#

the picture of the code

#

overflowing onto 4 moniters

#

lol

obtuse gale Mar 10, 2021, 3:42 PM

#

lmao

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:42 PM

#

And even if it was cycling, i don't think thered be a noticeable difference

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:42 PM

#

Yeah

obtuse gale Mar 10, 2021, 3:42 PM

#

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/767941108348878868/809490102211575893/IMG_20210211_152417.jpg

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:42 PM

#

Yesss

#

lol

ocean quartz Mar 10, 2021, 3:42 PM

#

Empty allman block

while(true)
{}

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:43 PM

#

ew

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:43 PM

#

obtuse gale https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/767941108348878868/809490102211575893/I...

Looks about right

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:43 PM

#

seeing {} tho

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:43 PM

#

ocean quartz Empty allman block ```kt while(true) {} ```

Ewwwwwwwwwwww

obtuse gale Mar 10, 2021, 3:43 PM

#

md_5

while ( true )
{

}

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:43 PM

#

Bro i fucking hate the people who add spaces in the loops

#

like i understand if its something like algorithm and formatting and easier to understand

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:43 PM

#

ocean quartz Empty allman block ```kt while(true) {} ```

GoLang be like:

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:43 PM

#

but this

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:43 PM

#

obtuse gale md_5 ```java while ( true ) { } ```

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:44 PM

#

old wyvern GoLang be like:

Nooooo

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:44 PM

#

obtuse gale md_5 ```java while ( true ) { } ```

https://tenor.com/view/blocked-nope-do-not-stop-ksi-gif-13628205

Tenor

ocean quartz Mar 10, 2021, 3:44 PM

#

for ( i = 0 ; i < 10 ; i ++ )
{

}

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:44 PM

#

😈

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:44 PM

#

i hate u

#

lmao

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:44 PM

#

ocean quartz ```java for ( i = 0 ; i < 10 ; i ++ ) { } ```

Leave

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:44 PM

#

there is even a space between i and the ++

#

that really hurts

frigid badge Mar 10, 2021, 3:44 PM

#

https://tenor.com/view/ban-banned-gif-8540509

Tenor

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:44 PM

#

imagine writing braces tho

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:44 PM

#

ocean quartz ```java for ( i = 0 ; i < 10 ; i ++ ) { } ```

int i = 10
while (i --> 0) {
    
}

#

😌

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:44 PM

#

prisma wave imagine writing braces tho

python 🌚

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:45 PM

#

old wyvern ```java int i = 10 while (i --> 0) { } ```

That syntax is cool tho

#

shame IJ ruins it

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:45 PM

#

it doesnt

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:45 PM

#

By default it does

ocean quartz Mar 10, 2021, 3:45 PM

#

Also @old wyvern @prisma wave, this would be an interesting feature for elara, a syntax for infinite loop

while {
}

As in just while without any condition

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:45 PM

#

Ik you can change

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:45 PM

#

ocean quartz Also <@!235475470806679554> <@!266973575225933824>, this would be an interesting...

Go has that

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:45 PM

#

We already have that I think matt

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:45 PM

#

Do we?

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:45 PM

#

I think we go

#

Not sure

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:45 PM

#

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

ocean quartz Mar 10, 2021, 3:45 PM

#

Oh shit, that's nice

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:46 PM

#

Just need to let the condition be true if the next token is a {

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:46 PM

#

prisma wave By default it does

I dont remember chnaging any defaults

#

No warning or anything

#

ligatures makes that look lit

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:46 PM

#

I mean when you format it

#

It ruins it

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:47 PM

#

ah I see

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:47 PM

#

Turns it into i-- > j

ocean quartz Mar 10, 2021, 3:48 PM

#

Oh interesting, go's version is

for {
}

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 3:49 PM

#

4.7k lines on bw so far, yikes

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:49 PM

#

yea

#

go's for also works like a while

frigid badge Mar 10, 2021, 3:49 PM

#

bw?

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 3:49 PM

#

bedwars

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 3:50 PM

#

for i > 5 {

}

ocean quartz Mar 10, 2021, 3:50 PM

#

You tell me

rotund vigil Mar 10, 2021, 3:51 PM

#

I'm op, it still won't work

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:51 PM

#

go for is nice

frail glade Mar 10, 2021, 3:51 PM

#

Stick to 1 channel.

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:51 PM

#

Very versatile

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:51 PM

#

rotund vigil I'm op, it still won't work

https://wiki.bristermitten.me/how-to-fix-common-OP-issues

How To Fix Common OP Issues

This guide talks about How To Fix Common OP Issues

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:52 PM

#

forest pecan there is even a space between i and the ++

lol

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:53 PM

#

im at 18k lines 🥲

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:53 PM

#

18k lines? pfff

#

GitHub seems to think I've added 386,361 lines and removed 193,970 lines for Krypton in 32 commits

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:54 PM

#

enum class

#

lmao

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:54 PM

#

totally not that the blocks.json file is 171k lines or anything

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:54 PM

#

lmao

#

wait im not at 18k

#

im at 120k

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 3:55 PM

#

I mean I'm gonna hate myself when I start refactoring all this

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:55 PM

#

hot hull I mean I'm gonna hate myself when I start refactoring all this

refactoring what?

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 3:55 PM

#

my potato code

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:56 PM

#

doge_ahaha

#

right, should probably make a repo for the API in the Krypton org actually, thinking about it

#

tempted to call it "Api" just to piss everyone off xD

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 3:56 PM

#

whats so bad about "Api"

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 3:56 PM

#

API

#

or sudoku

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 3:57 PM

#

;-;

#

BedwarsApi

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:57 PM

#

I swear the official Java convention is to have an abbreviation of 3 characters or less be fully uppercase

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 3:57 PM

#

I mean it makes sense for it to be uppercase

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:57 PM

#

its an acronym

#

so it should be uppercase

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:57 PM

#

oh btw, I might switch us to log4j 2 at some point

#

since log4j 2 is faster and supports async loggers

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 3:58 PM

#

thank you

#

for not fucking using JAVA.UTIL.LOGGER

#

which is what Spigot

#

apparantly uses

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 3:58 PM

#

we're already using SLF4J and Logback

#

just thinking of switching Logback out for Log4j 2

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 3:59 PM

#

tfw your logging isn't fast enough

#

Nooooo

#

Logging is a HUGE hotspot in our Fermat's last theorem brute forcer

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:01 PM

#

https://i.imgur.com/oTPC3tD.png lol

Imgur

#

thanks for that Google

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 4:01 PM

#

Wales 🤢

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:02 PM

#

I know someone from Wales, I should tell them you said that

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 4:02 PM

#

Please do

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:02 PM

#

y do u need logging lib

#

println("[INFO] Hi")

#

ez

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:02 PM

#

half harness `println("[INFO] Hi")`

leave

#

please leave

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:02 PM

#

what???

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:02 PM

#

I swear

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:02 PM

#

...

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:02 PM

#

you have about 5 brain cells on a good day

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:02 PM

#

half harness y do u need logging lib

leave

#

please leave

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:02 PM

#

W H y

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:02 PM

#

u suc

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:02 PM

#

what does a logging lib have

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 4:02 PM

#

Can't tell if you're trolling or not

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:03 PM

#

dw its a dkim moment again

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:03 PM

#

;-;

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:03 PM

#

prisma wave Can't tell if you're trolling or not

this is dkim lol

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:03 PM

#

remember when he said kotlin was bad

#

now hes doing it again

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:03 PM

#

kotlin is good

#

but

#

what exactly does a logging lib have

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:03 PM

#

you said before it was bad

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 4:03 PM

#

half harness what does a logging lib have

take a wild guess

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:03 PM

#

before you even knew it

#

LMAO

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:03 PM

#

forest pecan remember when he said kotlin was bad

one of my developers has been blaming Kotlin for all the problems with my plugins, but I started teaching him it yesterday and now he loves it lol

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:04 PM

#

LMAO

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 4:04 PM

#

Almost as if criticising a language you've never used is dumb...

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:04 PM

#

#development message

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:04 PM

#

prisma wave Almost as if criticising a language you've never used is dumb...

🥲

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:04 PM

#

remember these days

#

lol

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:04 PM

#

lol

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:05 PM

#

has anything really changed since then?

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:05 PM

#

...

#

😦

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:05 PM

#

I mean, not like dkim has really progressed in that time KEKW

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:05 PM

#

errant geyser Mar 10, 2021, 4:05 PM

#

He's trying ok

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 4:05 PM

#

Dkim is pro in code cave

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:05 PM

#

errant geyser He's trying ok

fair enough lol

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:05 PM

#

prisma wave Dkim is pro in code cave

wot

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 4:06 PM

#

Helpful

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:06 PM

#

is it just me or does code cave sound like you're referencing code combat lol

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:06 PM

#

code cave should have levels

#

and xp

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 4:06 PM

#

I agree

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:06 PM

#

it'd be more active

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:06 PM

#

I bet dkim can't even do code combat

errant geyser Mar 10, 2021, 4:06 PM

#

What's code cave?

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:06 PM

#

What's code combat?

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 4:06 PM

#

Made in discord.elr

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:06 PM

#

errant geyser What's code cave?

its a discord

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:06 PM

#

any British people here familiar with code combat?

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 4:06 PM

#

errant geyser What's code cave?

Second best coding discord

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:06 PM

#

is hc one

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 4:07 PM

#

@half harness no

errant geyser Mar 10, 2021, 4:07 PM

#

jovial warren any British people here familiar with code combat?

Regrettably

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 4:07 PM

#

Code cave is good because I'm mod but it's also full of dumbasses

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:07 PM

#

inv

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:07 PM

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lol

errant geyser Mar 10, 2021, 4:08 PM

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prisma wave Code cave is good because I'm mod but it's also full of dumbasses

Make me immune to consequences and I'll call them dumbasses for you

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:08 PM

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prisma wave Code cave is good because I'm mod but it's also full of dumbasses

That's why I always ask in HelpChat 🥲

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 4:09 PM

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errant geyser Make me immune to consequences and I'll call them dumbasses for you

i mean

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you're effectively immune

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what are they gonna do, cry?

errant geyser Mar 10, 2021, 4:09 PM

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Well I meant being banned

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:09 PM

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prisma wave Code cave is good because I'm mod but it's also full of dumbasses

wait what? you didn't tell me I get to laugh at idiots!

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 4:10 PM

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well

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most of them are just noobs

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but theres this one guy

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i cant really describe it

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theyre braindead but incredibly overcompetend

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wait what

#

my english died

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thats not a word

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overconfident*

errant geyser Mar 10, 2021, 4:12 PM

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Can we ~~abuse~~ help said person?

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 4:12 PM

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absolutely

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:13 PM

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@jovial warren Look at this abomination https://paste.helpch.at/osewaleviz.java

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:14 PM

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the first thing I see that is an issue is that it's Java

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fingerguns

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:14 PM

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Jump off a cliff

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:14 PM

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try me https://tenor.com/view/biatch-bitch-upset-annoyed-mad-gif-13479436

Tenor

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:14 PM

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frosty did you write that code

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:15 PM

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I mean, you can't code anyway, so I'm not that surprised by this

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:15 PM

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Yes 👀

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:15 PM

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it isnt really that bad

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:15 PM

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What's so wrong about it, apart from functional interface abuse

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:15 PM

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I'm messing btw lol

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you don't need to use this unless it's necessary to do so

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:15 PM

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Nah I prefer them, cleaner imo

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:15 PM

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like when an instance variable and stack variable have the same name

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also, that execute method and the Arrays.asList have 8 space indents wtf

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:16 PM

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4 too litle, my bad

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:16 PM

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i only this in constructors but its personal pref

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:17 PM

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forest pecan i only `this` in constructors but its personal pref

I only use this where the compiler complains if I don't lol

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:17 PM

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lol

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:17 PM

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but that really doesn't happen in Kotlin unless you're stupid lol

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also, Frosty wtf

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:18 PM

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i love how kotlin is much less verbose

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:18 PM

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?

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:18 PM

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returns a Predicate<Event>

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casts to another event

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:18 PM

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shut up

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:18 PM

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the repeated cast as well

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:18 PM

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I'll fix that eventually

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Just trynna get shit working first lol

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And before you ask what the point of this is, it's per world listeners

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:19 PM

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casts like that are dangerous

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:19 PM

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also is there a way so that intellij deletes semi colons automatically when coding in kotlin

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:19 PM

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totally didn't do that once in Krypton before I yeeted it because it was damn ugly

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:19 PM

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forest pecan also is there a way so that intellij deletes semi colons automatically when codi...

you still write them?

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:20 PM

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yeye I believe I can yeet the lambda all together, just no clue how

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:20 PM

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I find it an inconvenience to have to press the right arrow all the way to the end of the line just to type it

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:20 PM

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jovial warren you still write them?

java instinct i use both

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i use java for my main library code

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and kotlin for testing

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:20 PM

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why would you do that to yourself smh

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:20 PM

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well it has advantages cause kotlin tests are much easier to write

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better testing overall ig

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:20 PM

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just use Kotlin everywhere lol

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:21 PM

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and i need to let my mind differentiate the two

#

lol

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so my brain can realize that kotlin doesnt use semicolons

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does kotlin even use any semicolons like anywhere in the language?

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like not syntax wise

#

but like anywhere

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besides like string names

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:21 PM

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if you want to put two things on the same line

#

you gotta use 'em

#

same as in Python

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:22 PM

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who would do that to theirselves

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lol

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:22 PM

#

forest pecan who would do that to theirselves

comes in handy in CoC shortest lol

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:22 PM

#

LMAO

#

true

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:22 PM

#

until you inevitably get rinsed by Python

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:22 PM

#

indentation

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pensiveyeet

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python is basically executable yaml

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lol

obtuse gale Mar 10, 2021, 4:23 PM

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skript tho

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:23 PM

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leave

obtuse gale Mar 10, 2021, 4:24 PM

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nah I'm fine thanks

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:27 PM

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obtuse gale nah I'm fine thanks

lets make an anticheat in skript

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:27 PM

#

You need jesus

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:27 PM

#

https://forums.skunity.com/resources/neon-anticheat-packet-detections.907/

skUnity Forums

Script - Neon Anticheat || Packet Detections

#

Paid anti cheat made in skript

dawn hinge Mar 10, 2021, 4:29 PM

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I believe the link you just sent includes your cookies aswell

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:30 PM

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29 cookies

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holy shit

dawn hinge Mar 10, 2021, 4:30 PM

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Noice

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:30 PM

#

https://www.mc-market.org/resources/13640/

#

did you copy and paste that

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XD

dawn hinge Mar 10, 2021, 4:30 PM

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I'm on my phone so no

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:32 PM

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oh btw, I'm on to designing the command manager, just thinking of how to do it

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:32 PM

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I wanna buy that just to see the actual files kek

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:32 PM

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should I just have a few registration and deregistration functions?

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:32 PM

#

its only 25 cents

dawn hinge Mar 10, 2021, 4:32 PM

#

If it does actually work, its completely worth it lol

errant geyser Mar 10, 2021, 4:32 PM

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jovial warren should I just have a few registration and deregistration functions?

yeah

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:33 PM

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No

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:33 PM

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forest pecan https://www.mc-market.org/resources/13640/

FFS I have to disable my VPN every FUCKING TIME

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:33 PM

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LOL

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:33 PM

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because they block VPNs for non-supreme users

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not kidding

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fucking money hungry scumbags

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also, the words "free" and "MC market" just don't go together do they

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:34 PM

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i was looking on the mineacademy site and i found this:

Our focus for this training is to teach you development and coding. If your dream is to become a developer at Google, or to offer your own development services, Project Orion is a great place to start.

#

dumbass you think you can fucking get into Google?

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just by taking this one course for 20 days?

#

kekwgif

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:34 PM

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anyone can get into google with enough experience

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:35 PM

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Not with that course

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:35 PM

#

^

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:35 PM

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It teaches shit, but it's 90% wrong

dawn hinge Mar 10, 2021, 4:35 PM

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"Is a great place to start"

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:35 PM

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isn't mineacademy that one run by that really shady guy who got banned from Spigot because he advertised literally everywhere?

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:35 PM

#

yea

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:35 PM

#

CHAD

dawn hinge Mar 10, 2021, 4:35 PM

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Yeah

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:35 PM

#

kangarkoo

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:35 PM

#

and then he complained that the price limit was "too low" in his blog

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:36 PM

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dude would've probably charged 100 for a plugin no doubt

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:36 PM

#

hot hull dude would've probably charged 100 for a plugin no doubt

and this is exactly the reason why the limit exists

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:36 PM

#

chatcontrol is literally only 200kilobytes

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:37 PM

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Chatcontrol is utter shit

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:37 PM

#

bUt iT HaS lOaDS oF FeaTuREs

dawn hinge Mar 10, 2021, 4:37 PM

#

So rude!?!?

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:37 PM

#

dawn hinge So rude!?!?

nah kangarko deserved what he got

dawn hinge Mar 10, 2021, 4:37 PM

#

Jokes aside, definitely

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 4:38 PM

#

forest pecan i was looking on the mineacademy site and i found this: Our focus for this trai...

if he can teach people on how to get into google, why isnt he in google :kekw:

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:38 PM

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https://tenor.com/Nygw.gif

Tenor

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:38 PM

#

onyx loom if he can teach people on how to get into google, why isnt he in google :kekw:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/695431668944732270/819234105958465606/desconocido.gif

#

god damn man you got him hard

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:38 PM

#

replace the words "snakes" with "spigot developers" and "on this mother fucking plane" with "complaining about these mother fucking limits"

#

honestly though, in the terms of spigot vs developers, that's one of the things I fully agree with md_5 on

#

some developers think that it is somehow their god given right to sell their shit on Spigot

#

also, for the CommandManager, ```kotlin
interface CommandManager {

fun register(command: Command)

fun register(vararg commands: Command)

fun register(commands: Iterable<Command>)

fun unregister(command: Command)

}

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:43 PM

#

Yes

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:44 PM

#

and should I add an easy registerCommand method in Plugin to avoid you doing ```kotlin
class MyPlugin(context: PluginContext) : Plugin(context) {

init {
    context.server.commandManager.register(SomeCommand)
}

}

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:44 PM

#

I presume listeners will be done in a similar way when it comes to registration?

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:45 PM

#

class MyPlugin(context: PluginContext) : Plugin(context) {

    init {
        on<SomeEvent> {
            // do some whack
        }
    }
}

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:45 PM

#

oh so no actual registration

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:45 PM

#

or optionally, registerListener maybe, if you want to separate listeners into classes

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:46 PM

#

hot hull oh so no actual registration

that method will register a listener that will call the code in the block when the event is fired

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:47 PM

#

I see

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:47 PM

#

or something like that

#

it'll use an event bus

#

which I still need to look into lol

#

~~a.k.a steal from Guava or LuckPerms and pretend I know what I'm doing~~

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:48 PM

#

Why reinvent the wheel fingerguns

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:48 PM

#

wdym?

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:49 PM

#

jovial warren ~~a.k.a steal from Guava or LuckPerms and pretend I know what I'm doing~~

.

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:49 PM

#

ah

#

https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms/blob/master/common/src/main/java/me/lucko/luckperms/common/event/AbstractEventBus.java#L152

#

bus

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:50 PM

#

bus

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:51 PM

#

🚌

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:52 PM

#

does anyone here know about how event buses work and wouldn't mind explaining it to me pls?

obtuse gale Mar 10, 2021, 4:52 PM

#

just use KyoriPowered/event

#

ezpz

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:53 PM

#

more like copy from kyoripowered/event

obtuse gale Mar 10, 2021, 4:53 PM

#

fun fact, with the LP API you can subscribe to LuckPermsEvent and unlike stupid Bukkit it will be called for every event

ocean quartz Mar 10, 2021, 4:55 PM

#

EventEvent

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:55 PM

#

obtuse gale fun fact, with the LP API you can subscribe to `LuckPermsEvent` and unlike stupi...

oh wow

#

also, https://github.com/KyoriPowered/event/blob/master/api/src/main/java/net/kyori/event/EventSubscriber.java this can just be (T) -> Unit right?

GitHub

KyoriPowered/event

An event bus. Contribute to KyoriPowered/event development by creating an account on GitHub.

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:55 PM

#

what is Unit

#

i always see it instead of void

obtuse gale Mar 10, 2021, 4:55 PM

#

Nothing fingerguns

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:55 PM

#

it's void that can be returned

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:56 PM

#

oh

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:56 PM

#

obtuse gale Nothing <:fingerguns:730681133200834592>

no

#

no

obtuse gale Mar 10, 2021, 4:56 PM

#

xD

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:56 PM

#

thonking

#

isn't that the same thing

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:56 PM

#

e.g. ```kotlin
interface EventBus {

fun <T : Event> subscribe(subscriber: (T) -> Unit)

}

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:56 PM

#

void and Unit

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 4:56 PM

#

void urMum(void, void, void void...)

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:56 PM

#

void = Unit

#

but Unit is a return type

#

it can be returned

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 4:56 PM

#

u can do stuff like return someVoidFunction() with Unit

obtuse gale Mar 10, 2021, 4:56 PM

#

Void tho

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:56 PM

#

so void and Unit are the same

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:56 PM

#

onyx loom u can do stuff like `return someVoidFunction()` with `Unit`

^

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 4:56 PM

#

basically yea

#

but unit better

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:57 PM

#

onyx loom u can do stuff like `return someVoidFunction()` with `Unit`

thats useless though

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 4:57 PM

#

its really not

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:57 PM

#

jovial warren e.g. ```kotlin interface EventBus { fun <T : Event> subscribe(subscriber: (...

this would work right?

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 4:57 PM

#

its concise

obtuse gale Mar 10, 2021, 4:57 PM

#

just return Object ez

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:57 PM

#

onyx loom its really not

how is it not

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 4:57 PM

#

player.sendMessage("hello")
return

return player.sendMessage("hello")

#

which do u prefer

#

if u say first i will smack u

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:57 PM

#

second

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 4:57 PM

#

the main reason for unit is that everything is a function

#

a function always returns something

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:57 PM

#

When you try and figure out why stuff doesn't work, but you made it uppercase instead of lowercase :sadge:

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 4:58 PM

#

sudge

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 4:58 PM

#

meaning you can do () -> Unit rather than some weird syntax to represent "void"

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:58 PM

#

@prisma wave teach me the event bus ways pls senpai

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:58 PM

#

sodge

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 4:58 PM

#

jovial warren <@!266973575225933824> teach me the event bus ways pls senpai

you have asked me that 3 times

#

same answer as last time

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 4:58 PM

#

wait for the 4th

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 4:58 PM

#

you don't know 😦

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 4:58 PM

#

@prisma wave teach my the sftp script ways pls senpai

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 4:59 PM

#

This is an unregistered copy of Sublime Text

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 4:59 PM

#

So a dude from the other discord decided to respond to the statements of why lombok is bad

#

📎 lombok-squad.txt

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:00 PM

#

"one of the most stable projects"

#

JetBrains remakes Lombok plugin because it breaks every other update

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 5:00 PM

#

We've seen this already

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:01 PM

#

Heretere?

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 5:01 PM

#

mhm

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:01 PM

#

who dis

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 5:01 PM

#

some nerd

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:02 PM

#

it is a buggy mess, that's BS

#

"greasy neckbeard"

#

BM you just got owned

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 5:02 PM

#

huh?

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:02 PM

#

that's a world class insult I swear

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 5:02 PM

#

lol

lunar cypress Mar 10, 2021, 5:02 PM

#

forest pecan

can someone send this in some other format

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 5:02 PM

#

what

obtuse gale Mar 10, 2021, 5:02 PM

#

jovial warren Heretere?

Literal asshat that should be dead

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 5:02 PM

#

pdf?

#

iso?

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 5:03 PM

#

paste

lunar cypress Mar 10, 2021, 5:03 PM

#

not a file preferably

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 5:03 PM

#

wasm?

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:03 PM

#

I swear you wrote ?plsnolombok BM

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 5:03 PM

#

https://paste.helpch.at/uyudoheriz.coffeescript

#

johnny^

lunar cypress Mar 10, 2021, 5:03 PM

#

thank you

#

but jesus christ

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 5:03 PM

#

this guy loves Furthermore 🤣

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 5:03 PM

#

nvm lol

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 5:03 PM

#

moreover

#

forthright

#

~~ar y llaw arall~~ wrong languag

#

wait

lunar cypress Mar 10, 2021, 5:04 PM

#

debunk: So what?
why even care about stability?

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 5:04 PM

#

Isnt that what piggy sent earlier?

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 5:04 PM

#

@stuck harbor what is your pfp

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 5:04 PM

#

duck

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 5:05 PM

#

@lunar cypress what is your pfp

obtuse gale Mar 10, 2021, 5:05 PM

#

I mean...

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 5:05 PM

#

stuck harbor duck

i ate that duck last dinner

#

cap

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 5:05 PM

#

sadge

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:06 PM

#

lunar cypress > debunk: So what? why even care about stability?

seems legit

#

also, tf is stability?

#

what does that even mean?

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 5:07 PM

#

something to do with stables

obtuse gale Mar 10, 2021, 5:07 PM

#

Staple's?

lunar cypress Mar 10, 2021, 5:07 PM

#

being prone to errors because of tiny changes

#

that's "unstable"

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 5:08 PM

#

obtuse gale Staple's?

u mean American wilko's?

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 5:08 PM

#

wilko!

lunar cypress Mar 10, 2021, 5:08 PM

#

and you can say what you want, that is the case with lombok. It remains to be a compiler hack, even if you dislike the term

#

It doesn't use an official API

#

or rather, it uses an internal API

#

Also: facts and logic

This "compiler hack" is likely more stable than most projects you'll ever make

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 5:09 PM

#

sult

lunar cypress Mar 10, 2021, 5:09 PM

#

you could say that I was "owned" by this. "Destroyed", even

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 5:10 PM

#

lunar cypress Also: facts and logic > This "compiler hack" is likely more stable than most pro...

lies. Everything I make is stable.

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 5:10 PM

#

100%

forest pecan Mar 10, 2021, 5:11 PM

#

:)

lunar cypress Mar 10, 2021, 5:11 PM

#

I wonder what the argument against proper annotation processors is that do the same thing

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:17 PM

#

interface EventBus<E : Event> {
    
    val subscribers: Map<E, EventSubscription<E>>

    fun call(event: E)

    fun register(subscription: EventSubscription<E>)

    fun unregister(subscription: EventSubscription<*>)
}
```wonder if that'll work 🤔

#

(using a functional interface because of unregistering)

#

though actually, is unregistering event listeners actually even a good idea?

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 5:18 PM

#

o i forgot @hot hull what language we learning this week

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:18 PM

#

https://tenor.com/baZsL.gif

Tenor

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 5:18 PM

#

none

#

Busy

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 5:18 PM

#

altho i only touched f# on that one day kek

ocean quartz Mar 10, 2021, 5:18 PM

#

jovial warren ```kotlin interface EventBus<E : Event> { val subscribers: Map<E, Event...

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 5:18 PM

#

Same lol

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:18 PM

#

ocean quartz

lol

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 5:18 PM

#

Legit got to many stuff to finish rn

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 5:18 PM

#

slep

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 5:18 PM

#

E?

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 5:18 PM

#

E!

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 5:18 PM

#

I gotta make an AHK script to help me sleep

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:19 PM

#

interface EventBus<E : Event> {

    val subscribers: Map<E, (E) -> Unit>

    fun call(event: E)

    fun register(subscription: (E) -> Unit)
}
```maybe this better

#

actually lucko's is better than that

#

it has register return an EventSubscription and takes a consumer as an argument

#

interface EventBus {

    fun <T : Event> subscribe(handler: (T) -> Unit): EventSubscription<T>
}

#

and then calling as well

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 5:24 PM

#

lucko be gg

#

no re

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 5:25 PM

#

wait nvm xD

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:29 PM

#

also, I swear some of my KDocs are gonna look like they were written for children lol

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 5:29 PM

#

for children, by children cursed_fingerguns

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:29 PM

#

/**
 * Plain old survival mode. In this mode, you have a finite amount of health,
 * and you can take damage.
 */
```for example lol

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:29 PM

#

hot hull for children, by children <:cursed_fingerguns:740566777473532007>

okay Frosty, I swear, I will actually find out where you live

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 5:30 PM

#

Slovenia

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want my address?

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:30 PM

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gimme addr

static zealot Mar 10, 2021, 5:30 PM

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I can give you his address if you want

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:30 PM

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do it lol

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dox frosty

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 5:30 PM

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123 Sesame Street?

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:31 PM

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stuck harbor 123 Sesame Street?

oh that makes so much sense lol

static zealot Mar 10, 2021, 5:31 PM

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Street:  Turjaška 4

City:  Preserje

Phone number  031-947-131

Zip code  1352

Country calling code  +386

Country  Slovenia```

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:31 PM

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KEKW

static zealot Mar 10, 2021, 5:31 PM

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this isa ll his info

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 5:31 PM

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bois

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:31 PM

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I call BS lol

static zealot Mar 10, 2021, 5:31 PM

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for legal reasons it is not

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 5:31 PM

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Wrong

static zealot Mar 10, 2021, 5:31 PM

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I have used bestrandoms.com

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:31 PM

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static zealot I have used bestrandoms.com

-_-

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 5:31 PM

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sadge

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 5:31 PM

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I mean it's close, but you can't actually get my address from my ip

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It'll just lead you to the data centre for some reason

static zealot Mar 10, 2021, 5:32 PM

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well because that's how it works

stuck harbor Mar 10, 2021, 5:32 PM

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yeah

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 5:32 PM

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shut up

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 5:33 PM

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hot hull I mean it's close, but you can't actually get my address from my ip

What if they had access to your location from your's phone's GPS?

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🙂

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:34 PM

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also, Event is an interface btw

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thank me later

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and no BS getHandlerList lol

ocean quartz Mar 10, 2021, 5:34 PM

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Never understood the handler list bs

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 5:35 PM

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To store handlers

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:35 PM

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also, Cancellable is also a thing

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/**
 * An event that can be cancelled
 *
 * This has a single value, [isCancelled], which states whether the
 * event has been cancelled or not.
 *
 * @author Callum Seabrook
 */
interface Cancellable {

    /**
     * Whether or not the event has been cancelled.
     */
    var isCancelled: Boolean
}
```noice

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and yes, that is a var, but that's literally the cleanest way to do it

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trying to think if I can even do that lol

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have cancellable events

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but if I don't, I will literally be hung by the neck lol

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:37 PM

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ocean quartz Never understood the handler list bs

from lahwran's fevents apparently

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 5:37 PM

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ocean quartz Never understood the handler list bs

It just represents a static collection of event handlers afaik

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:37 PM

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https://github.com/lahwran/fastevents/blob/master/src/main/java/net/lahwran/fevents/HandlerList.java

GitHub

lahwran/fastevents

[unmaintained; might not be fast on modern java] Very (very) fast event system for java - lahwran/fastevents

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 5:37 PM

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Not sure why they chose so many things to be static

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:38 PM

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taking inspiration from messy donkey code is one of Bukkit's biggest mistakes

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HandlerList<TEvent extends Event<TEvent>> wat

ocean quartz Mar 10, 2021, 5:38 PM

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I mean i know what it is, what I meant i never understood is because I feel like there is better ways to do it xD

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 5:38 PM

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ah, just bukkit being bukkit

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:39 PM

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ocean quartz I mean i know what it is, what I meant i never understood is because I feel like...

welcome to event buses

old wyvern Mar 10, 2021, 5:39 PM

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Just an irrecoverable state tbh

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:39 PM

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event buses handle events through pub/sub

prisma wave Mar 10, 2021, 5:39 PM

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jovial warren and yes, that is a `var`, but that's literally the cleanest way to do it

🤢

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:40 PM

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well it's either that or ```kotlin
interface Cancellable {

val isCancelled: Boolean

fun cancel()

}

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I guess

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also, why tf didn't Bukkit just do https://github.com/lahwran/fastevents/blob/master/src/main/java/net/lahwran/fevents/Listener.java this for listeners ffs

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idiots

onyx loom Mar 10, 2021, 5:41 PM

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asking questions that shouldnt be answered 🙂

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:44 PM

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https://github.com/lahwran/fastevents/blob/master/src/main/java/net/lahwran/fevents/Order.java not gonna question whatever tf this is

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right, close tab

distant sun Mar 10, 2021, 5:47 PM

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yea that's bad

distant sun Mar 10, 2021, 5:47 PM

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jovial warren also, why tf didn't Bukkit just do https://github.com/lahwran/fastevents/blob/ma...

but this looks interesting

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but doesn't that mean you can have only one listener per class?

jovial warren Mar 10, 2021, 5:48 PM

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ah yeah, good point

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I mean, not even sure how I'll do listeners in classes yet (if I will)

hot hull Mar 10, 2021, 5:49 PM

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SRP cursed_fingerguns

distant sun Mar 10, 2021, 5:49 PM

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well yea, you can use multiple listeners for one thing

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ex for an afk system you can use chat, interact, command events etc and just put them all in one class

half harness Mar 10, 2021, 5:50 PM

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would it be bad to have 2 classes

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both with the same listener?

distant sun Mar 10, 2021, 5:50 PM

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depending on context