#dev-general | HelpChat | Page 203

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 3:15 PM

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AppCode?

potent vale Oct 4, 2020, 3:15 PM

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Yes but how else will i make ios apps

quiet depot Oct 4, 2020, 3:15 PM

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yea

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 3:15 PM

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Nah Ive seen it though

quiet depot Oct 4, 2020, 3:15 PM

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it requires xcode

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kinda stupid

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ig apple enforces that

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 3:16 PM

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nah otherwise you can't sign etc

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and for testing and emulating

potent vale Oct 4, 2020, 3:16 PM

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React is JS and web ported

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 3:16 PM

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Anything like phpmyadmin I can run locally (not sql workbench)

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 3:16 PM

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datagrip

quiet depot Oct 4, 2020, 3:16 PM

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heidisql

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 3:16 PM

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or tableplus

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I have both open rn

potent vale Oct 4, 2020, 3:17 PM

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No sql workbench?

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 3:17 PM

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tableplus for redis & datagrip for all other sql dbs

quiet depot Oct 4, 2020, 3:17 PM

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i never figured out how to use datagrip as a replacement for phpmyadmin

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I highly recommend heidisql

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 3:18 PM

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XP time

quiet depot Oct 4, 2020, 3:18 PM

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ay

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frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 3:18 PM

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now use the rest repositories 😉

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or elide

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or crnk

quiet depot Oct 4, 2020, 3:18 PM

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yeah gonna use rest repositories

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gotta figure out the security stuff first

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 3:19 PM

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they better make a way to change the json output to follow the json:api spec

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Will have to try that out in ecloud- instead of crnk

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"spec" I hate specs.

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 3:19 PM

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th:value

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 3:19 PM

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nah the reason for that is because then you can use a library in your frontend

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which knows the spec

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and then you don't make calls yourself

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 3:19 PM

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th:if="${@someCoolBean.getSomeValue()}"

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 3:19 PM

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then it feels like you are using an ORM in the frontend

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 3:20 PM

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Ah thats clever

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So you duplicate the code 🙂

quiet depot Oct 4, 2020, 3:20 PM

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niall

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 3:20 PM

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it removes even more boilerplate code

quiet depot Oct 4, 2020, 3:20 PM

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any chance you know off the top of your head, how to make spring security token based, supplied via headers?

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 3:20 PM

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allowing rapid development in an incredibly clean way

quiet depot Oct 4, 2020, 3:20 PM

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cuz currently it just shows a login page

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don't want that

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 3:21 PM

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use JWT

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and pass the jwt token as bearer

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in the authentication header

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ez

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 3:21 PM

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I do not i'm afriad

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Only used the login form stuff

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 3:21 PM

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he's never done non session stuff

quiet depot Oct 4, 2020, 3:22 PM

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https://www.baeldung.com/spring-security-oauth-jwt this good lemmo?

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i mean it's baeldung so ofc it is

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but is it the right thing?

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 3:22 PM

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no idea, but baeldung is good

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 3:22 PM

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Probably yeah- I never undertood the token servers though

quiet depot Oct 4, 2020, 3:22 PM

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aight well that's a good read, for tomorrow

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gn peeps

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 3:22 PM

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Goodnight

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 3:22 PM

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goodnight

empty flint Oct 4, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Can a plugin create a new folder outside it's own plugins/<plugin> folder?

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I remember the access being restricted and all that but can I create a plugins/<arbitrary new folder>?

ocean quartz Oct 4, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Pretty sure you can, since you are able to delete files like worlds which are completely outside

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 3:31 PM

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You absolutely can

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Nothing in plugins is sandboxed afaik

hot hull Oct 4, 2020, 3:32 PM

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You should download Fuck1.8

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And see magic happen

empty flint Oct 4, 2020, 3:33 PM

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And see magic happen
@hot hull Not this again. That's how I got to re-install my last VM windows dist. I wanted to see the magic happen and little did I know the magic was a russian ransomware 😂

potent vale Oct 4, 2020, 3:36 PM

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Good idea

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Lets program a botnet

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 3:36 PM

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you have access to everything the server has access to

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so if the server is ran by root you can access everything

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which I hope not

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 3:40 PM

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what's wrong with that? there's no such thing as a malicious plugin

static zealot Oct 4, 2020, 3:41 PM

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right xD

potent vale Oct 4, 2020, 3:41 PM

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If it has access its possible

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 3:41 PM

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/s

hot hull Oct 4, 2020, 3:43 PM

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Ah yes just go download the dudes homework folder reversed_fingerguns

steel heart Oct 4, 2020, 3:52 PM

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I mean selfop plugins is kinda lit although idm if root or not

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 3:55 PM

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@frigid badge Get a load of this hibernate naming 😐

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frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 3:56 PM

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ew

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Why's it using plural lol

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 3:56 PM

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dunno

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 4:29 PM

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@frigid badge you might know this:
i'm trying to make a docker image that wraps miniserve (a lightweight file serving http server) with the args I need and a few default files.
I currently do this CMD ["miniserve", "--index index.html", "images"] but miniserve errors (invalid syntax apparently).
When I run it in bash with miniserve --index index.html images, it works fine.

Am I doing something wrong here?

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 4:31 PM

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you should use ENTRYPOINT ["miniserve", "--index", "index.html", "images"]

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@prisma wave

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 4:32 PM

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aha

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lemme try

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hmm

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ERRO[0001] error waiting for container: context canceled

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odd

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 4:33 PM

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did you rebuild it

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 4:33 PM

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FROM svenstaro/miniserve:0.10.0

ENV PORT 8080

EXPOSE ${port}

WORKDIR /app

COPY . /app

ENTRYPOINT ["miniserve", "--index", "index.html", "images"]```
this is the full file

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yeah pretty sure I did

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do I need to clean build or something

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 4:33 PM

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just give it a diff tag

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 4:33 PM

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how would I do that lol

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 4:33 PM

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-t

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 4:33 PM

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i'm just doing docker build FolderName rn

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ah

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ty

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hm same thing

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 4:34 PM

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did you run with the new tag

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 4:34 PM

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docker build ImageServer -t lol
docker run -t lol

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I think so?

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 4:37 PM

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let me test

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brb

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 4:37 PM

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ok

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Do you need the folder or anything?

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 4:41 PM

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for me it says it can't find miniserve

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so you need to specify the absolute path

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instead of just miniverse

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(is my guess)

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 4:41 PM

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hmm

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so now I have to work out where it's installed to?

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or is there a fancy docker way of doing it

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 4:41 PM

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ohhh

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no

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I already know the problem

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https://hub.docker.com/r/svenstaro/miniserve/dockerfile

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this copies to /app

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so miniserve is already in /app

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and you are overwriting it

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 4:42 PM

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ahhhhhh

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i see

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never would've thought of that lmao

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 4:42 PM

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so change your workdir

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and instead of miniserve => /app/miniserve

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 4:42 PM

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should I change the COPY too?

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 4:43 PM

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yes

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Okay

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 4:43 PM

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to the correct workdir

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 4:43 PM

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YES

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working

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ty

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 4:43 PM

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np

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 4:43 PM

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well kind of, it's not exposing the port but I think I can figure that out

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possibly

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is there anything special you need to do?

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shouldn't the EXPOSE 8080 be enough?

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nvm

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got it

steel heart Oct 4, 2020, 4:51 PM

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You can't use reflection to access variables inside the init block right?

class Class {
  {
    var something;
  }
}```

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 4:51 PM

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You can't use reflection to access any variables inside a method afaik

steel heart Oct 4, 2020, 4:52 PM

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ok good

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so they're completely protected againist any power right?

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 4:53 PM

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I think instrumentation might be able to do something, but idk

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probably safe

steel heart Oct 4, 2020, 4:54 PM

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But who uses instrumentation?

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 4:54 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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who uses reflection to change things inside an init block?

steel heart Oct 4, 2020, 4:54 PM

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"professional spigot dev" just learned reflection wouldn't be able to access it

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Thonk

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@frigid badge what's the cleanest way of running an sftp server alongside the miniserve instance for file uploading? I presume they'd both have to be in the same container

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 5:05 PM

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no never

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you have to use file sharing

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basically you have a persisten volume

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which you mount on both the sftp container and the miniserve container

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 5:07 PM

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I see

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this is getting hectic

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 5:11 PM

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meh

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should probably use docker-compose

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Lemmo do you think things would break If I added @GeneratedValue to a column that previously wasn't. Like I wouldn't want it to insert a same id

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 5:15 PM

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idk, probably not

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since hibernate has no such thing as migrations right

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so it should just resolve stuff like that on it's own

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 5:17 PM

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Lol honestly sadly I think creating a duplicate entity might resolve this best

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Airframe2 e.g

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Add it all back in

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 6:00 PM

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@frigid badge So it kind of worked so far... lol.... but the table has a load of random ids as the primary key 😬 will just have to see if the generation strategy takes care of it

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Wonder if hibernate can regenerate a tables PK? I expect not. If the sequence now starts at the highest value orignally present (to be safe I will assume the maximum theoretical value of 16777215. (24 bit integer) (as the ID was originally the hex value of a string) I have quite a few IDs left! And even then can upgrade to a long in the future!

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I have yet to test inserting a value. Might do that now fingers crossed it will work

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 6:03 PM

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you can literally see everything of the sequence in the db

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it's in INFORMATION_SCHEMA

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and even change it

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 6:05 PM

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@frigid badge how would I make a dockerfile that wraps docker run -p blah blah/blah?

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CMD doesn't seem to work

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 6:05 PM

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nono

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what are you even doing

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 6:05 PM

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for the sftp server

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 6:05 PM

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why would you have a docker run inside a dockerfile?

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Oh dear I do not think this is good

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 6:06 PM

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that wouldn't even work since you don't have docker installed on the image

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 6:06 PM

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using caprover to get everything setup easily, but you can only provide either a Dockerfile or an image name - you can't pass arguments

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so apparently you're supposed to wrap the thingy

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idk

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 6:06 PM

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??

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 6:06 PM

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FROM atmoz/sftp:latest
CMD ["atmoz/sftp", "admin:password:::/var/data/images/"]
``` I have this atm, but it's very wrong

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 6:06 PM

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just use docker-compose

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and have 2 containers with 1 volume

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and bind the ports

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ez

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I'll make the file in a sec

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 6:07 PM

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hmm

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ok

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I've got 1 of the containers + volume working already

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just need sftp to hook into it now

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Top query is a newly inserted row

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It's ID is lower than ones that already exist.

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So I'm worried in future- its gonna hit an existing one and crash 😬

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@frigid badge 🥺

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Lemmo is in high demand tonight

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 6:11 PM

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He's mine!

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I feel so bad I cant imagine how annoying i've been

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 6:12 PM

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imagine how everyone in #development feels asking how to make variables

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 6:12 PM

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arabic variable

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5 = a

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 6:13 PM

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scary

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that would be a good esoteric language

distant sun Oct 4, 2020, 6:14 PM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/164280494874165248/165129131770511360/762345894233636884 bop

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 6:14 PM

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{
    "Hello")println(
} main)( fun

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 6:14 PM

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Sorry ive never worked with sql 🤷‍♂️

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 6:15 PM

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lmao

distant sun Oct 4, 2020, 6:17 PM

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smh

hot hull Oct 4, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Kek

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 6:27 PM

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version: '3.7'

services:
  sftp:
    image: yoursftpimage:tag
    volumes:
      - sftp_volume:/whatever

  miniserve:
    image: yourminiserveimage:tag
    ports:
      - 80:8080
    volumes:
      - sftp_volume:/whatever

volumes:
  sftp_volume:
    driver: local

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untested

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change your images & volume mounts respectively

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and optionally change the port

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where the left port is the host and the right port is the container

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@prisma wave

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@heady birch uhm

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so how did you generate the ids then?

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like what did you do

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 6:39 PM

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I didnt

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Which probably wasn't the best idea. but i can get hibernate to generate for a new column

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 6:47 PM

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that's not smart to do

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no shit that you are now having collisions

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you need to generate different ids

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just normal sequence ids

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Yeah I assumed hibernate would bump its sequence number to the highest id in the table

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 6:52 PM

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no

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and you don't want gaps either

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 6:53 PM

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True- however on an unrelated note the default generation uses a global sequence 😐

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 6:53 PM

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yeah iknow which you can change as it's a column in the db

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 6:53 PM

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So its not per table. Also how can you do batch inserts with hibernate using the database sequence generation

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 6:54 PM

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idk I'm no hibernate expert

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https://www.baeldung.com/jpa-hibernate-batch-insert-update

Baeldung

Batch Insert/Update with Hibernate/JPA

Learn how to use batch inserts and updates using Hibernate/JPA

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 6:56 PM

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`7. @Id Generation Strategy
When we want to use batching for inserts/updates, we should be aware of the primary key generation strategy. If our entities use GenerationType.IDENTITY identifier generator, Hibernate will silently disable batch inserts/updates.

Since entities in our examples use GenerationType.SEQUENCE identifier generator, Hibernate enables batch operations:`

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When you say let the database generate the ids that is GenerationType.IDENTITY

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[42000][1075] Incorrect table definition; there can be only one auto column and it must be defined as a key. And why then heck am I getting this when adding an auto increment

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there is no other auto key, and I assigned it UNIQUE

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Uh nvm. got an AI column added.

hot hull Oct 4, 2020, 7:02 PM

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What a professional I must say

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 7:12 PM

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I should have just given lemmo access @frigid badge

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You dont think you would be able to repair it with access do you?

empty flint Oct 4, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Today, I saw a real block of Diorite

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Anybody wanna see?

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 7:16 PM

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yeah

empty flint Oct 4, 2020, 7:17 PM

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📎 20201004_125424.jpg

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I think the texture is pretty fitting 🙂

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 7:19 PM

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@heady birch idk

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I don't even understand anymore what you've done lmao

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Me neither

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Im kind of deleting foreign keys and re adding them with sql manually

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 7:22 PM

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@frigid badge thanks, how would I specify arguments to miniserve with this?

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or should I still have a dockerfile

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 7:26 PM

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entrypoint:

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 7:27 PM

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Alright thanks

steel heart Oct 4, 2020, 7:33 PM

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@prisma wave yo how to train your dragon, absolutely pog music

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 7:33 PM

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absolutely

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good soundtrack

steel heart Oct 4, 2020, 7:34 PM

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The entire story and the music is epic

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Ive not even seen the third film lol

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It just came up on a spotify mix

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but yeah the soundtracks are very good

hot hull Oct 4, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Yes Conclubablebleble how to train your dragon good af

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 7:37 PM

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@frigid badge sorry for all the pings, but I'm incredibly dumb
I have my root domain being served by nginx, I only just realised that means I can't have miniserve listening to port 80 too (for img.bristermitten.me)

If i was to reverse proxy img.bristermitten.me with nginx, surely I'd lose a lot of the speed that miniserve gives?
Any fancy dns tricks you can do to replace img.bristermitten.me:80 with img.bristermitten.me:8080 or something?

Or maybe I should just use nginx for everything and not worry about 2 webservers

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Conclubablebleble

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🤔

steel heart Oct 4, 2020, 7:38 PM

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@hot hull yes also I have good update for Dino mod

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Also can you make some models?

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Or is that beyond your level?

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I mean yeah, I got like a ton of Disney soundtracks recommended alex and all of those was literally hot lava fire water

hot hull Oct 4, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Time is not existant for me right now, but I could probably play around if and when I have some free time

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 7:39 PM

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lmao

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kids movies have the best soundtracks

steel heart Oct 4, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Ok frosty noice, yes like Kung fu panda had some really delicious steaks as well

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Bro it worked

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I did it

hot hull Oct 4, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Can't relate Niall :(

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 7:40 PM

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the kung fu panda soundtrack is amazing

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 7:40 PM

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But now I kind of have 1 table with database id generation and the rest using hibernate

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Ill just change it and leave a gap

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Genius I am

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 7:41 PM

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nginx is very fast

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you won't lose to reverse proxy

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 7:41 PM

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ah great

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 7:42 PM

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just change the port to 8080

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 7:42 PM

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miniserve does seem to be faster for static files so I didn't want to lose out on that

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yeah

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ty

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 7:42 PM

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in the docker-compose file

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 7:42 PM

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So lemmo I'm kind of annoyed now

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Everythings up. just got thymeleaf stuff to change

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But the ID's on the airframe table are using the database generation, might just switch it back to hibernate, there would be a pretty massive gap though

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 7:46 PM

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no no

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what you do is

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you manually (or programatically) make those ids without gaps just normally

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then you switch back to hibernate

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and then you set hibernate's sequence number to the highest id

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which you can change

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since it's stored in INFORMATION_SCHEMA

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 7:49 PM

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No

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Its done

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 7:49 PM

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your database sucks

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Also what you described

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Is what I was going to do earlier

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Then you said no or something

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I added AI like you said

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I changed foreign keys like you said

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so DONT go telling me to do it another way Lol

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@frigid badge

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I'm pretty sure it's fine?

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@frigid badge What's the standard way of changing a column type, say I upgraded the PK from int to bigint, would it upgrade the foreign key constraints? Or would I need to do those manually?

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 7:55 PM

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you have to do that manually

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just pls fix those gaps

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 8:02 PM

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I don't think you understand

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id            id         id
0             2          1
1             3          2
4             5          3
6                        4
``` Just how it works for some reason

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 8:04 PM

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hibernate is ass

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Just added my table in (using the AI generation)

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Seems like the better choice, but cant really change to AI now

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Or atleast it certainly is not worth it

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Just got to update a couple hundred thymeleaf fields

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 8:14 PM

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ok lemmo, update:
docker compose didn't work, i think caprover messed some stuff up. it isn't running the commands properly, and if I just run compose normally, then the port bindings or something get messed up. is there any way to run the sftp image with arguments with just a plain dockerfile?

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oh no he's offline

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D:

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 8:31 PM

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oh ffs

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it was all working fine, I was just using -p instead of -P for sftp

steel heart Oct 4, 2020, 8:34 PM

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elera

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How does reflection work in kotlin?

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Very same as java?

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 8:35 PM

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internally?

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or just how to use it

steel heart Oct 4, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Yeah how to use it?

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Would it be like the exact same?

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 8:38 PM

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you can use java reflection for kotlin

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but bear in mind that some things might be renamed by the compiler

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there's kotlin-reflect which is more idiomatic and supports the kotlin specific stuff

steel heart Oct 4, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Hmm okay nice

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I’m going to learn kotlin inside out without writing a single line of it

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 8:45 PM

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@prisma wave ?

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 8:45 PM

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uh

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i think i've fixed it

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 8:45 PM

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alright

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Hi lemmo you free tomorrow 7am - 10pm?

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 8:46 PM

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just trying to figure out permissions for the shared volume now

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remote open("/index.html"): Permission denied
hmm any ideas?

heady birch Oct 4, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Lol joking lemmo thank you for your help today it all worked out in the end

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 8:47 PM

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someone suggested adding user: root to docker-compose but that didn't seem to change anything

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seems like a bad idea too

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 8:48 PM

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@prisma wave you’ll have to run as a diff user

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don’t run as root lol

#

bad practice

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 8:48 PM

#

yeah I figured

#

wdym?

#

make a new user and chown the volume or something?

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 8:49 PM

#

@heady birch np how did you end up getting everything done?

#

how are you running it now? @prisma wave

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 8:49 PM

#

which bit?

#

the sftp image?

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 8:50 PM

#

everything

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 8:50 PM

#

version: '3.7'

services:
  sftp:
    image: atmoz/sftp
    volumes:
      - images:/img
    ports:
     - "2222:22"
    command: user:pass
    user: root
  img:
    image: svenstaro/miniserve:0.10.0
    ports:
      - 8080:8080
    volumes:
      - images:/img
    entrypoint: ["/app/miniserve", "--index", "index.html", "/img"]

networks:
  default:
   external:
     name: captain-overlay-network

volumes:
  images:
    driver: local

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 8:51 PM

#

why the network

#

also it looks nicer to have entrypoint below the image directive

#

but that’s besides the point

#

you could just ssh into the container and run chown

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 8:52 PM

#

why the network
@frigid badge caprover needs it to proxy apparently... i'm beginning to think this software isn't worth it

#

okay

#

docker attach?

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 8:53 PM

#

never heard of caprover 😛

#

no

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 8:53 PM

#

it's like a web gui for docker containers

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 8:53 PM

#

docker-compose exec container sh

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where container is sftp or ing

#

img*

fluid walrus Oct 4, 2020, 8:54 PM

#

This is the memes channel right

#

?

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 8:54 PM

#

close enough

fluid walrus Oct 4, 2020, 8:54 PM

#

📎 20201004_134916.jpg

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LMFAO

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 8:55 PM

#

@frigid badge so I should:
make a new user
ssh into container
chown the /img/ dir

correct?

#

and then set compose to run as that user

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 8:55 PM

#

the image is a completely different environment

#

so everything you do in your vps doesn’t go over to the container

#

so you cannot create a user outside of the container

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 8:56 PM

#

oh wait

#

so the mapped img/ dir on the img container will have the same permissions as the images volume?

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 8:57 PM

#

yes

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 8:57 PM

#

i see

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 8:57 PM

#

but honestly the best way is probably just making your own image

#

and chown in there

#

but you can test it using the ssh method

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 8:57 PM

#

but I should still be making a new user and chowning rather than chmoding?

#

hm

#

what would this image do?

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 8:58 PM

#

but doesn’t the sftp image not make a user and give permissions

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 8:59 PM

#

idk the documentation is a bit vague

#

it makes a user yes

#

oh

#

wait

#

yeah...

#

chown -R user img/?

#

ah nvm I think I've found the problem

#

Each user is jailed in their home directory (for security). That means root is owning the home directory, and the user can not modify it's content. The user can only do changes inside sub-directories.

You have to create a directory (i.e. mount a volume) inside the user's home directory, and then you can upload files there. In your case, this will be the "share" directory.

frigid badge Oct 4, 2020, 9:03 PM

#

well there you go

prisma wave Oct 4, 2020, 9:14 PM

#

omg

#

it works

#

thanks a lot for the help and patience lol

static zealot Oct 4, 2020, 9:27 PM

#

we finished reading the w3schools wiki boizz. Time to read another 😦

obtuse gale Oct 4, 2020, 11:09 PM

#

w3 🤔

hot hull Oct 5, 2020, 7:15 AM

#

@quiet depot So what do I compile now to test the placeholders?

quiet depot Oct 5, 2020, 7:19 AM

#

@hot hull are you using the test subproject?

hot hull Oct 5, 2020, 7:20 AM

#

Idk should I?

quiet depot Oct 5, 2020, 7:20 AM

#

yes

#

that's what I said when we were first setting it up

hot hull Oct 5, 2020, 7:26 AM

#

Could not set process working directory to 'C:\Users\Frosty\Desktop\Projects\IntelliJ\PlaceholderAPI3\test': could not set current directory (errno 2)

quiet depot Oct 5, 2020, 7:26 AM

#

?

#

idk what that means

hot hull Oct 5, 2020, 7:27 AM

#

Neither do I, that's what I get when I shadowJar the joint

quiet depot Oct 5, 2020, 7:28 AM

#

show me your test subproject, file structure

hot hull Oct 5, 2020, 7:35 AM

#

cba to mess with this right now cause I gotta leave soon, I'll mess with it when I get home if I have time

#

You explained it to Gaby in #development right? so I can just read that

quiet depot Oct 5, 2020, 7:40 AM

#

yea

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 10:54 AM

#

Anyone else got a project thats like... never finished?

#

Like I always work on it but its never finished

quiet depot Oct 5, 2020, 11:42 AM

#

rpf

steel heart Oct 5, 2020, 11:51 AM

#

Yes Aj that’s happens

#

Although it’s better if you’d finish it

distant sun Oct 5, 2020, 12:36 PM

#

Fr

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 12:36 PM

#

France

distant sun Oct 5, 2020, 12:42 PM

#

📎 unknown.gif

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 12:43 PM

#

Normandy

static zealot Oct 5, 2020, 12:43 PM

#

https://tenor.com/view/yes-dog-indeed-nod-gif-10818519

Tenor

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 12:45 PM

#

Yeste

remote goblet Oct 5, 2020, 12:45 PM

#

Gimme some copypastas to type to fill my time

#

I’m incredibly bored

static zealot Oct 5, 2020, 12:50 PM

#

oh man designing a bounty system is hard. 😦

eternal blade Oct 5, 2020, 1:21 PM

#

how i can obtain a jar file of purely nms without spigot or bukkit?

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 1:22 PM

#

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/download/server

#

There 👆 👆 👆

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

As pure as it gets

eternal blade Oct 5, 2020, 1:23 PM

#

it doesnt contians the packets

#

https://prnt.sc/uth9a2

#

it is needs to be like this on the same path

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 1:24 PM

#

Run buildtools then

eternal blade Oct 5, 2020, 1:24 PM

#

i did

#

https://prnt.sc/uth9s3

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 1:24 PM

#

It will install the deobfuscated compiled jar on your local maven repo

#

Do I smell 1.8. 🤔🤔🤔

eternal blade Oct 5, 2020, 1:25 PM

#

well it is an example

remote goblet Oct 5, 2020, 1:25 PM

#

Burn it

eternal blade Oct 5, 2020, 1:25 PM

#

i have it for more version all

#

all i saw is md_5

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 1:25 PM

#

1.8 bad, latest good

eternal blade Oct 5, 2020, 1:25 PM

#

path there as well

remote goblet Oct 5, 2020, 1:25 PM

#

+1.16 > -1.16

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 1:26 PM

#

At very minimum 1.12

#

But 1.16 bettee

eternal blade Oct 5, 2020, 1:27 PM

#

jeez drop the version trash talk like eclipse and IntelliJ

#

I just wonder how i can get this jar file for other versions
https://prnt.sc/uthcdd

hot heron Oct 5, 2020, 1:28 PM

#

The packets are in net.minecraft.network anyway

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 1:28 PM

#

run buildtools

hot heron Oct 5, 2020, 1:28 PM

#

According to minidiggers tools

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 1:28 PM

#

it will install the deobfuscated compiled jar under org.spigot:minecraft-server:<version> in your local repo

dusky drum Oct 5, 2020, 2:02 PM

#

umm

java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: java.nio.ByteBuffer.position(I)Ljava/nio/ByteBuffer;
```?

#

http://images.virtusdevelops.eu/shareX/41md9rpa.png

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 2:05 PM

#

lol wth

#

that shit ain't in java 8

dusky drum Oct 5, 2020, 2:05 PM

#

?

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 2:05 PM

#

idk lmao

#

nor 11

dusky drum Oct 5, 2020, 2:05 PM

#

same like wtf is this

#

its java 1.8.0_261

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 2:05 PM

#

like bruh when did that get introduced

#

it doesn't have a "since" thingy in the docs

dusky drum Oct 5, 2020, 2:06 PM

#

works fine for me but just 1 user has issues

dusky drum Oct 5, 2020, 3:45 PM

#

why da fk do i have to login on oracle to download JDK 1.8?==0'

onyx loom Oct 5, 2020, 3:46 PM

#

?jdk

compact perchBOT Oct 5, 2020, 3:46 PM

#

FAQ Answer:

https://adoptopenjdk.net

onyx loom Oct 5, 2020, 3:46 PM

#

dont bother with oracle jdk 🌝

dusky drum Oct 5, 2020, 3:46 PM

#

danke

#

that download speed tho

distant sun Oct 5, 2020, 4:01 PM

#

Cuz it's an old version I guss

ocean quartz Oct 5, 2020, 4:40 PM

#

Hello fellow skin dwellers

#

How's everyone been?

#

I gotta check pdm, haven't had time yet 😫

prisma wave Oct 5, 2020, 4:41 PM

#

dw you're not alone

#

I haven't either

onyx loom Oct 5, 2020, 5:09 PM

#

@hot hull what u gonna do about it

hot hull Oct 5, 2020, 5:09 PM

#

Smack u

onyx loom Oct 5, 2020, 5:09 PM

#

ok

#

bet

#

can i smack u back thO?

hot hull Oct 5, 2020, 5:10 PM

#

Ooo a smack fest

#

I like it

ocean quartz Oct 5, 2020, 5:11 PM

#

dead_cyan

#

Frosty killed Kali

#

Vote him out

umbral mica Oct 5, 2020, 5:12 PM

#

idk red kind of sus tho

hot hull Oct 5, 2020, 5:12 PM

#

Red do be sus

umbral mica Oct 5, 2020, 5:12 PM

#

vote glare!

onyx loom Oct 5, 2020, 5:13 PM

#

📎 IMG-20201005-WA0002.jpg

hot hull Oct 5, 2020, 5:13 PM

#

Good thing I'm always aqua 😎

ocean quartz Oct 5, 2020, 5:13 PM

#

Watch disguised toast, he's always cyan and many times impostor and most of the times wins

onyx loom Oct 5, 2020, 5:13 PM

#

lmao im black 👀

umbral mica Oct 5, 2020, 5:13 PM

#

but toast is always teal lol

#

also dammit I guess that means I'm always sus since I'm always the carrot

hot hull Oct 5, 2020, 5:14 PM

#

Bruh cyan, teal, y'all colorblind?

ocean quartz Oct 5, 2020, 5:14 PM

#

That is cyan lol

hot hull Oct 5, 2020, 5:14 PM

#

That's aqua

ocean quartz Oct 5, 2020, 5:14 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

hot hull Oct 5, 2020, 5:14 PM

#

Whoever made that emoji is a 4head

ocean quartz Oct 5, 2020, 5:15 PM

#

The creators of the game lol

umbral mica Oct 5, 2020, 5:15 PM

#

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/17/d7/c1/17d7c15d2a896a20c4335f7453c5c54c.png

hot hull Oct 5, 2020, 5:15 PM

#

Bunch of idots

umbral mica Oct 5, 2020, 5:15 PM

#

ugh I forgot defaults don't have embed image perms here ARGH

hot hull Oct 5, 2020, 5:15 PM

#

Get gud

onyx loom Oct 5, 2020, 5:15 PM

#

its 100% not teal lmao

hot hull Oct 5, 2020, 5:15 PM

#

Nor is it cyan

#

It's literally aqua

umbral mica Oct 5, 2020, 5:16 PM

#

Get gud
hi am from planet mc can I have trusted to test your discord server?

ocean quartz Oct 5, 2020, 5:17 PM

#

https://among-us.fandom.com/wiki/Cyan

Among Us Wiki

Cyan

Cyan is one of the main colors in Among Us that the player can customize. Trivia Cyan was not in the original game, and was added later with Lime at the 2019.4.24 version., In the wallet that you...

hot hull Oct 5, 2020, 5:26 PM

#

Completely blind idots

onyx loom Oct 5, 2020, 5:27 PM

#

maybe u blind 🤔

hot hull Oct 5, 2020, 5:30 PM

#

Bruh

📎 IMG_20201005_193023.jpg

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 5:33 PM

#

bro frosty

#

got any more of them pixels?

#

also, needs more jpeg

#

📎 544By.png

hot hull Oct 5, 2020, 5:36 PM

#

It's a screenshot of a screenshot

#

Gimme a break

umbral mica Oct 5, 2020, 5:38 PM

#

https://i.imgur.com/05rRapK.png

#

wait why can fefo embed stuff but I can't 😦

#

oh dammit you need to be rank 10 dammit

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 5:41 PM

#

lul

prisma wave Oct 5, 2020, 6:23 PM

#

Which one of you was this then

📎 Screenshot_20201005-192252_Reddit.jpg

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 6:26 PM

#

It was me

#

I program in Maven

onyx loom Oct 5, 2020, 6:27 PM

#

thonking

#

yea idk why u didnt put gradle on the pic tho bm lol

prisma wave Oct 5, 2020, 6:28 PM

#

gradle sucks too

#

Elara build tool

onyx loom Oct 5, 2020, 6:28 PM

#

😳

hot hull Oct 5, 2020, 6:29 PM

#

Frozen build tool

#

Where it freezes your pc reversed_fingerguns

onyx loom Oct 5, 2020, 6:30 PM

#

😮

#

exciting

#

whens it coming?

hot hull Oct 5, 2020, 6:30 PM

#

When my pc unfreezes

onyx loom Oct 5, 2020, 6:30 PM

#

o

#

have fun with that 😅

#

and good luck

prisma wave Oct 5, 2020, 6:30 PM

#

while true {}

surreal quarry Oct 5, 2020, 6:31 PM

#

while false {}

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 6:31 PM

#

while !false

prisma wave Oct 5, 2020, 6:31 PM

#

average elara syntax

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 6:31 PM

#

while;

surreal quarry Oct 5, 2020, 6:31 PM

#

val foo = true
val bar = !foo
while (!bar) {}```

old wyvern Oct 5, 2020, 6:32 PM

#

ew

surreal quarry Oct 5, 2020, 6:32 PM

#

i think thats the best option tbh

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 6:32 PM

#

for (;;)

old wyvern Oct 5, 2020, 6:32 PM

#

let foo = true
let bar = !bar
while !bar {}

surreal quarry Oct 5, 2020, 6:32 PM

#

let me -> slap you

old wyvern Oct 5, 2020, 6:33 PM

#

how about -> no u

surreal quarry Oct 5, 2020, 6:33 PM

#

me -> z_UnoReverse

#

wow thats really small

ocean quartz Oct 5, 2020, 6:34 PM

#

Also wise people, can you enlighten me on what the fuck is this?

📎 unknown.png

old wyvern Oct 5, 2020, 6:34 PM

#

ha

📎 Z.png

surreal quarry Oct 5, 2020, 6:34 PM

#

https://tenor.com/view/reverse-card-uno-uno-cards-gif-13032597

Tenor

onyx loom Oct 5, 2020, 6:34 PM

#

NOOP

ocean quartz Oct 5, 2020, 6:34 PM

#

uno_reverse

prisma wave Oct 5, 2020, 6:36 PM

#

like Function.identity()

#

Just awful syntax

ocean quartz Oct 5, 2020, 6:37 PM

#

What is it used for?

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 6:37 PM

#

nothing

#

no-operation

#

maybe my method takes a transformation function, but if when calling the method I don't want to transform anything, I pass noop

prisma wave Oct 5, 2020, 6:38 PM

#

The identity function is as useful as 0 is

#

Especially in functional programming

steel heart Oct 5, 2020, 6:53 PM

#

Basically an empty function

#

Maybe it’s used in case you have to fill in a function parameter or something

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 6:55 PM

#

String::toString

steel heart Oct 5, 2020, 6:56 PM

#

That’s just for strings

prisma wave Oct 5, 2020, 7:01 PM

#

T => T

#

Haskell

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 7:01 PM

#

That’s just for strings
I know

#

still applies to that case lol

prisma wave Oct 5, 2020, 7:01 PM

#

identity :: a -> a
identity a = a

#

I think that's right

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 7:02 PM

#

I think I've used String::toString more times than Function.identity()

empty flint Oct 5, 2020, 7:18 PM

#

Has anybody used ResourceBundles to translate your plugins before?

steel heart Oct 5, 2020, 7:25 PM

#

Yeah I mean when it comes to strings that would be perfect fefo

narrow sandal Oct 5, 2020, 7:32 PM

#

lads, anyone able to give me the regex to find an instance of
@<string> but ignore * @<string>

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 7:34 PM

#

^ means "the beginning of a line" so you might want to stick that at the beginning of the pattern @narrow sandal

narrow sandal Oct 5, 2020, 7:34 PM

#

I know that much

#

Just confused af with negating

#

Oh someone fixed my group

empty flint Oct 5, 2020, 7:50 PM

#

@narrow sandal idk if it's still relevant but...https://regexr.com/5dctd

RegExr

RegExr: Learn, Build, & Test RegEx

RegExr is an online tool to learn, build, & test Regular Expressions (RegEx / RegExp).

steel heart Oct 5, 2020, 8:10 PM

#

\(^$^)/

#

^epic regex

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 8:13 PM

#

you forgot to escape

#

everything

#

java be like ^\\\\\$\\^\\$\\^\$/$

#

cuz strings

surreal quarry Oct 5, 2020, 8:14 PM

#

""" """

steel heart Oct 5, 2020, 8:14 PM

#

lol true

prisma wave Oct 5, 2020, 8:14 PM

#

Yet another problem that elara solves natively

steel heart Oct 5, 2020, 8:14 PM

#

genius?

surreal quarry Oct 5, 2020, 8:14 PM

#

no escaped characters?

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 8:15 PM

#

elara escapes everything you type

prisma wave Oct 5, 2020, 8:15 PM

#

^

obtuse gale Oct 5, 2020, 8:15 PM

#

e v e r y t h i n g

prisma wave Oct 5, 2020, 8:15 PM

#

Exactly

#

Everything is automatically escaped

steel heart Oct 5, 2020, 8:15 PM

#

even the automatic escape is escaped

#

fingerguns

prisma wave Oct 5, 2020, 8:15 PM

#

It's a very elegant solution really

onyx loom Oct 5, 2020, 8:15 PM

#

elara sm0rt

surreal quarry Oct 5, 2020, 8:15 PM

#

wild

prisma wave Oct 5, 2020, 8:16 PM

#

It's honestly quite embarrassing that no other language has thought of this before

empty flint Oct 5, 2020, 8:52 PM

#

It's honestly quite embarrassing that no other language has thought of this before
@prisma wave HMMM??? """ """

#

Also, can you "unescape" anything? How do you use \n in elara?

prisma wave Oct 5, 2020, 9:02 PM

#

you don't

#

@prisma wave HMMM??? """ """
@empty flint hardly an elegant solution

#

trimIndent() sucks and is badly optimised

#

Incidentally I am joking, automatically escaping everything is an awful idea

old wyvern Oct 5, 2020, 9:03 PM

#

📎 2Q.png

prisma wave Oct 5, 2020, 9:04 PM

#

elara will have regex literals

surreal quarry Oct 5, 2020, 9:34 PM

#

@ocean quartz how would I broadcast a markdown message with mf-msg

ocean quartz Oct 5, 2020, 9:35 PM

#

Prolly need to get all players

surreal quarry Oct 5, 2020, 9:36 PM

#

yea but that won't include console i dont think

ocean quartz Oct 5, 2020, 9:36 PM

#

Needs to be done manually though, can't really do much about that since it's component related

surreal quarry Oct 5, 2020, 9:37 PM

#

alright

surreal quarry Oct 5, 2020, 10:14 PM

#

officially using mf-msg for chat styling lol

#

first time ive actually played around with it. pretty cool stuff matt

ocean quartz Oct 5, 2020, 10:14 PM

#

Noice ;p

#

@prisma wave Do you by any chance know how to add a file to the jar when compiling? Like, from a gradle plugin
The docs are horrible

prisma wave Oct 5, 2020, 10:19 PM

#

A file or a dependency?

ocean quartz Oct 5, 2020, 10:19 PM

#

A single file

#

Like creating a yaml file inside the jar when building

prisma wave Oct 5, 2020, 10:20 PM

#

I do indeed

#

Iirc you can make a file in project.buildDir/resources/main and it'll be included

#

That's what pdm does anyway

ocean quartz Oct 5, 2020, 10:21 PM

#

Ooo let me give that a try

#

It was getting offtopic, @surreal quarry wdym darker?

📎 unknown.png

surreal quarry Oct 5, 2020, 10:32 PM

#

idk i guess not

#

i feel like they are usually almost black but maybe someone else

#

https://discordapp.com/channels/164280494874165248/695431668944732270/762744511515983873

ocean quartz Oct 5, 2020, 10:32 PM

#

That was github fingerguns

surreal quarry Oct 5, 2020, 10:33 PM

#

ah lmao

normal talon Oct 5, 2020, 10:35 PM

#

Matt u the owner of mattstudios.mf ?

ocean quartz Oct 5, 2020, 10:36 PM

#

Yeah

normal talon Oct 5, 2020, 10:36 PM

#

oh xd noice

steel heart Oct 5, 2020, 10:43 PM

#

Lol

ocean quartz Oct 5, 2020, 10:43 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

#

cryingblob

steel heart Oct 5, 2020, 10:43 PM

#

F

static zealot Oct 6, 2020, 2:54 AM

#

Oh man I'm so afraid to compile this plugin xD

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 3:05 AM

#

God, testing a gradle plugin is so annoying

#

In other news, I love Kotlin

📎 unknown.png

static zealot Oct 6, 2020, 3:15 AM

#

same

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 3:16 AM

#

Was dreading having to write recursion to loop through all the files but Kotlin is like "here have some saving functions"

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 4:01 AM

#

Trying to check for an annotation on a class file after being compile, it's been so hard, won't sleep till i do it xD

frail glade Oct 6, 2020, 4:02 AM

#

Ooo whatcha up to

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 4:03 AM

#

Making a gradle plugin to generate plugin.yml, what I want is for simply marking the main class with like @Plugin and let the compiler get the package and file for the main class

frail glade Oct 6, 2020, 4:03 AM

#

Check how sponge does it?

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 4:04 AM

#

Sponge isn't done on compile time is it?

umbral mica Oct 6, 2020, 4:04 AM

#

uh that already exists matt I think

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 4:04 AM

#

I know

frail glade Oct 6, 2020, 4:04 AM

#

I could've sworn it was

#

Maybe not

#

Does velocity do it?

umbral mica Oct 6, 2020, 4:05 AM

#

https://github.com/Hexaoxide/Carbon/blob/master/build.gradle see here for example

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 4:06 AM

#

I can check Glare
And i know i know, just doing it so i can learn
(also that one requires you to add the main class path, that's what i am trying to change)

frail glade Oct 6, 2020, 4:07 AM

#

He's trying to scan for the main class via an annotation

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 4:10 AM

#

Ooh managed to extract the package name!

📎 unknown.png

#

Now I think i can class load it

frail glade Oct 6, 2020, 4:11 AM

#

That's so wack. Compiling and load the class at the same time

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 4:28 AM

#

Aight i give in, too late, i'll leave this for tomorrow me

static zealot Oct 6, 2020, 4:28 AM

#

yo this plugin turned out pretty good. Not to many errors xD I was expecting the whole plugin to be broken

#

gn Matt

#

I didn't sleep the entire night. 7:30 am already

frail glade Oct 6, 2020, 4:30 AM

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What plugin?

static zealot Oct 6, 2020, 4:30 AM

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I'm working on a BountySystem

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for my own server.

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Got like 10 errors but fixed all of them so far.

frail glade Oct 6, 2020, 4:31 AM

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Ayyy! Nice!

static zealot Oct 6, 2020, 4:31 AM

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I just have to see why players can take items from the GUI even tho they shouldn't be able to

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pretty cool tho: https://i.imgur.com/OLFmr59.png

Imgur

frail glade Oct 6, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Ooo

static zealot Oct 6, 2020, 4:32 AM

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the only thing I know for sure I can optimize is the way I store data 😦

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but I'm to lazy to learn sql

distant sun Oct 6, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Do it

frail glade Oct 6, 2020, 4:32 AM

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It'll help over time.

static zealot Oct 6, 2020, 4:33 AM

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well actually now that I think about it all I store is id, 2 UUIDs and an int(Bounty) which is not that much

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I know it will but its to hard for me xD

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 4:34 AM

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5am for me, have a bunch of stuff i still wanna try, like checking if the classloader has the classes, and maybe even bytecode reading, but i know if i don't sleep now I'll regret it xD

frail glade Oct 6, 2020, 4:34 AM

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Go sleep

distant sun Oct 6, 2020, 4:34 AM

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Go to sleep nerd

static zealot Oct 6, 2020, 4:35 AM

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yeah I understand you. I just broke my sleep times after I tried so hard to sleep at night and stay awake during the day. What I'll try to do now is stay awake til like 8-9 PM xD

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Aight imma head out
Night everyone xD

frail glade Oct 6, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Yeah it's almost midnight here, I'ma head out too. 👋

regal gale Oct 6, 2020, 6:20 AM

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Is it really dangerous to have a module dependency on js expansion though?

obtuse gale Oct 6, 2020, 6:43 AM

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This might be a dumb question

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is there a difference between

class A{
private final Thing thing = new Thing();
}```

And
```java
class A{
private final Thing thing;
public A(){
this.thing = new Thing();
}```

hot hull Oct 6, 2020, 6:44 AM

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       ˇ Space here.
class A{

static zealot Oct 6, 2020, 6:45 AM

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xD

distant sun Oct 6, 2020, 6:45 AM

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The compiler will move it inside constructor i believe

static zealot Oct 6, 2020, 6:45 AM

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sane here A()X{

obtuse gale Oct 6, 2020, 6:45 AM

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so theres no difference really

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other than ones cleaner

hot hull Oct 6, 2020, 6:47 AM

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yus

hot hull Oct 6, 2020, 7:05 AM

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@quiet depot How do you mark a repo as hackoberfest?

quiet depot Oct 6, 2020, 7:09 AM

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add hacktoberfest as a topic

hot hull Oct 6, 2020, 7:12 AM

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I'm kinda blind, mind telling me where one does that

distant sun Oct 6, 2020, 7:20 AM

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Main page, about

hot hull Oct 6, 2020, 7:24 AM

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Neat, thanks

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Now if anyone wants to contribute to FJ fingerguns

frigid badge Oct 6, 2020, 7:31 AM

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there is definitely a difference lol

distant sun Oct 6, 2020, 7:40 AM

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Enlight us then @frigid badge

hot hull Oct 6, 2020, 7:41 AM

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There isn't a difference tho?

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 7:49 AM

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There's definitely a difference

hot hull Oct 6, 2020, 7:49 AM

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Englighten us please

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 7:49 AM

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afaik field values are evaluated before constructor calls

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or it's in the order

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So

frigid badge Oct 6, 2020, 7:50 AM

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fields are indeed intialised before the constructor is called

hot hull Oct 6, 2020, 7:50 AM

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Meaning there's a small order difference

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Which means there's no difference cause noone cares fingerguns

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 7:50 AM

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It can lead to subtle NPEs lol

distant sun Oct 6, 2020, 8:02 AM

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@SupressWarming("all")

hot hull Oct 6, 2020, 8:02 AM

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But your IDE would be yelling at you from the start tho

distant sun Oct 6, 2020, 8:03 AM

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Dont rely on your ide

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Esp on a slow computer lol

hot hull Oct 6, 2020, 8:04 AM

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Everyone keeps saying that, bruh I'm not going to code on a piece of paper, so I'll keep relying on the ide

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It's there for a reason

distant sun Oct 6, 2020, 8:04 AM

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Mine is broken on kotlin

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It sometimes say I can remove a variable even if its used

frigid badge Oct 6, 2020, 8:05 AM

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u prob f up

distant sun Oct 6, 2020, 8:05 AM

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:(

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Dont want to install it again

hot hull Oct 6, 2020, 8:09 AM

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Can someone seriously explain to me why I shouldn't rely on my IDE

regal gale Oct 6, 2020, 8:13 AM

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#dev-general message

distant sun Oct 6, 2020, 8:14 AM

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Sometimes it can give you false warnings or be unsure about stuff like casts

regal gale Oct 6, 2020, 8:16 AM

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I might add that if I wanted to 👀

static zealot Oct 6, 2020, 12:00 PM

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went from 10 lines of ideas to this left: https://i.imgur.com/FSBO0LJ.png I think this is for another decade not for this one xD

Imgur

old wyvern Oct 6, 2020, 1:09 PM

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Making a gradle plugin to generate plugin.yml, what I want is for simply marking the main class with like @Plugin and let the compiler get the package and file for the main class
@ocean quartz
Its probably better to just use an annotation processor than reading the classes for it

static zealot Oct 6, 2020, 1:11 PM

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in javascript can you multiply floats with integers ?

old wyvern Oct 6, 2020, 1:13 PM

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Yes

static zealot Oct 6, 2020, 1:14 PM

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so if I have a var test = 100 I can just do var newVar = test * 2.5 ?

old wyvern Oct 6, 2020, 1:14 PM

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sure

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Thats a thing in other languages as well, not specific to js

static zealot Oct 6, 2020, 1:16 PM

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oh

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I actually didn't know that. Never tested it

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thanks

old wyvern Oct 6, 2020, 1:16 PM

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🍉

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Also the specific diff in js would be that there is only 1 number type there, there is no specific int in a sense

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its all just doubles 🤷‍♂️

static zealot Oct 6, 2020, 1:18 PM

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yeah kinda makes sense.

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 1:22 PM

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@old wyvern Don't I need the class' instance to process the annotation?

old wyvern Oct 6, 2020, 1:22 PM

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No just the annotation names

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the round environment argument has a function to get all classes annotated with a specific annotation

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 1:23 PM

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I can give it a shot

old wyvern Oct 6, 2020, 1:24 PM

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https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/javax/annotation/processing/RoundEnvironment.html#getElementsAnnotatedWith-java.lang.Class-

languid ore Oct 6, 2020, 2:58 PM

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any ideas what i could code tho?

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I'm not very creative

obtuse gale Oct 6, 2020, 3:00 PM

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a brainfuck interpreter

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 3:06 PM

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@old wyvern How do you get a RoundEnvironment?

old wyvern Oct 6, 2020, 3:08 PM

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You get it as an argument in your process method

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https://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/javax/annotation/processing/AbstractProcessor.html#process(java.util.Set, javax.annotation.processing.RoundEnvironment)

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I referred to this while i was using annotation processors a few months ago
http://hannesdorfmann.com/annotation-processing/annotationprocessing101

Hannes Dorfmann

Annotation Processing 101

My life with Android

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 3:22 PM

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I like how they don't give the one part i want to know lol

📎 unknown.png

old wyvern Oct 6, 2020, 3:27 PM

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use the earlier method I linked, youd need to check and cast to TypeElement

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https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/javax/annotation/processing/RoundEnvironment.html#getElementsAnnotatedWith-java.lang.Class-

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@ocean quartz

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 3:28 PM

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But that's what i mean though, idk how to get to there xD
For that i would need the RoundEnvironment which i don't have either
Basically all I have is a File which is a .class file

old wyvern Oct 6, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Could you explain what you are working on atm?

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Basically I have a gradle plugin, on compile it'll loop through the compiled files and check for a specific annotation then get the path to the class that has it, that's all

old wyvern Oct 6, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Oh you would require a normal dependency for this to work

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I assume you can add it just by them applying the plugin tho?

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 3:33 PM

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I am not sure, though that means i'd have to do the annotation stuff on the main project no?
All i want on the main project is to add the annotation, the plugin should handle everything else
Which means i can't really get any instances of any class or anything like that, only compiled class files

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Which is why i was trying to use the url class loader

old wyvern Oct 6, 2020, 3:34 PM

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Yea the annotation processor would go in the main project

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It doesnt need the instance of anything

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You simply need to register it in your META-INF

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http://hannesdorfmann.com/annotation-processing/annotationprocessing101#register-your-processor

Hannes Dorfmann

Annotation Processing 101

My life with Android

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 3:35 PM

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I can try it again in a sec, going to see if i can do the classloader one more time

old wyvern Oct 6, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Alrighty

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 3:40 PM

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This worked PogW

📎 unknown.png

onyx loom Oct 6, 2020, 3:41 PM

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but is the annotation present 🤔

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 3:41 PM

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No xD

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Works!

📎 unknown.png

onyx loom Oct 6, 2020, 3:43 PM

#

o

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pog

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Could have done that yesterday smh, the only error i had was because i was doing package.ClassName.class instead of package.ClassName..

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 3:44 PM

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annotation present: maybe

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Then it's always correct

umbral mica Oct 6, 2020, 3:44 PM

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lol I saw that but I assumed you were reading the raw file and so needed that

onyx loom Oct 6, 2020, 3:44 PM

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or is it??

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 3:45 PM

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5am brain doesn't think well

#

Now that I got it working time to close the research kek

📎 unknown.png

distant sun Oct 6, 2020, 3:59 PM

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lmao

onyx loom Oct 6, 2020, 3:59 PM

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a typical programmers day

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 4:50 PM

#

anyone got a mirror repo of mvdw's that isn't constantly going down?

umbral mica Oct 6, 2020, 4:54 PM

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I mean couldn't you just clone from gh & mvn clean package?

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 4:54 PM

#

just tried that

#

transitive dependencies

#

honestly cba

#

placeholder api depends on updater, which depends on spigot 1.9 (not spigot-api)

#

im just gonna use the jar for now

#

elara will have a centralised package manager that just works

#

none of this "sonatype nexus" rubbish

leaden sparrow Oct 6, 2020, 5:24 PM

#

hey i would like to make something in maven which automatically increases the version in plugin.yml by 1 (this should also include if the version is for example 0.0.9 and i add 1 it should switch to 0.1.0)

#

can someone help me with that?

umbral mica Oct 6, 2020, 5:25 PM

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(this should also include if the version is for example 0.0.9 and i add 1 it should switch to 0.1.0)
what versioning system is that

leaden sparrow Oct 6, 2020, 5:25 PM

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it says for example

umbral mica Oct 6, 2020, 5:26 PM

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anyways, what's your end goal here?

leaden sparrow Oct 6, 2020, 5:27 PM

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in plugin.yml i have major.minor.patch everytime i build the project i want the patch to increase by 1, but also if it reaches 9 and it adds 1 it should increase the minor (major is increased manually)

umbral mica Oct 6, 2020, 5:28 PM

#

why are you automatically increasing the major version if the minor version exceeds 9?

leaden sparrow Oct 6, 2020, 5:28 PM

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oops wait i need to edit the message

#

now

#

btw this is for a friend he wants it that way, so idk why it is made like this

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but hes german so i am asking for him

empty flint Oct 6, 2020, 5:30 PM

#

fingerguns toggle

📎 unknown.png

leaden sparrow Oct 6, 2020, 5:32 PM

#

so @umbral mica any idea how i could achieve this?

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 5:34 PM

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There's a plugin for this iirc

#

Although it's for gradle I think

#

@steel heart didn't you make it?

leaden sparrow Oct 6, 2020, 5:34 PM

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I hope its for maven

steel heart Oct 6, 2020, 5:39 PM

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oh no I have one for gradle

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 5:39 PM

#

One probably exists

#

But gradle better than maven anyway

steel heart Oct 6, 2020, 5:40 PM

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I think its pinned on my gh profile

#

facts

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Isn't it better to just use the maven version as the plugin.yml version?

obtuse gale Oct 6, 2020, 5:44 PM

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I think at the add of the day it's just better to use local dependencies, and we all know it

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 5:44 PM

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probably

#

wait

#

I'm replying to Matt

#

Not you

#

That is wrong

obtuse gale Oct 6, 2020, 5:45 PM

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I don't believe it

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Now to figure how to add dependencies to the plugin 😩

onyx loom Oct 6, 2020, 6:13 PM

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😩

obtuse gale Oct 6, 2020, 6:13 PM

#

no

leaden sparrow Oct 6, 2020, 6:22 PM

#

Hey i am looking for a YamlConfiguration class to modify yml files without spigot, i had one it was standalone and didnt need anything else does anybody have one?

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 6:23 PM

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there's SnakeYaml but that doesn't have most of the bukkit stuff, there's also a port I just can't remember what it's called

obtuse gale Oct 6, 2020, 6:24 PM

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Simply-Yaml is identical to Bukkit's just without getItemstack or whatever

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 6:24 PM

#

you could also just serialize a Map with Snakeyaml

obtuse gale Oct 6, 2020, 6:24 PM

#

simple yaml**

leaden sparrow Oct 6, 2020, 6:24 PM

#

oh i dont need bukkit/spigot related stuff, i had a file which was just to modify simple yml files

#

but without dependencies

#

like just get, set and the basic stuff

#

but i will take a look at simpleyaml

#

@obtuse gale do you have experience with simpleyaml if i need help and stuff

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 6:26 PM

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it's simple

#

🙂

leaden sparrow Oct 6, 2020, 6:26 PM

#

haha SimpleYaml is Simple?

obtuse gale Oct 6, 2020, 6:26 PM

#

Can't you set a file with an object that implements serializable or something, then just read it back and deserializable it too

#

and yea, simple yaml is simple

#

it's almost like it's in the name or something

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Can't you set a file with an object that implements serializable or something, then just read it back and deserializable it too
@obtuse gale yes, but not to Yaml

leaden sparrow Oct 6, 2020, 6:31 PM

#

uhmm i cant seem to export it ( i am doing a maven plugin i get the following error : ) Failed to execute goal org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-plugin-plugin:3.2:descriptor (default-descriptor) on project SpigotVersion-maven-plugin: Execution default-descriptor of goal org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-plugin-plugin:3.2:descriptor failed: 13737

#

google wasnt a help at all

dusky drum Oct 6, 2020, 6:41 PM

#

any idea why my php throws html 500 error?

#

http://images.virtusdevelops.eu/shareX/26rrkjui.png

leaden sparrow Oct 6, 2020, 6:41 PM

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check php error log

dusky drum Oct 6, 2020, 6:41 PM

#

wheres that?

leaden sparrow Oct 6, 2020, 6:43 PM

#

you on linux?

dusky drum Oct 6, 2020, 6:43 PM

#

yes

#

php7.4 and nginx

#

linux ubuntu

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 6:44 PM

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check nginx logs then

dusky drum Oct 6, 2020, 6:44 PM

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ok

#

found it :9

leaden sparrow Oct 6, 2020, 6:44 PM

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check /var/log/nginx

dusky drum Oct 6, 2020, 6:46 PM

#

how is this wrong?
http://images.virtusdevelops.eu/shareX/dxepsw38.png

leaden sparrow Oct 6, 2020, 6:47 PM

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is this file in the root directory?

dusky drum Oct 6, 2020, 6:47 PM

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nah

#

wait

#

idk

#

works now

#

just did ctrl+f5

leaden sparrow Oct 6, 2020, 6:51 PM

#

uhmm i cant seem to export it ( i am doing a maven plugin i get the following error : ) Failed to execute goal org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-plugin-plugin:3.2:descriptor (default-descriptor) on project SpigotVersion-maven-plugin: Execution default-descriptor of goal org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-plugin-plugin:3.2:descriptor failed: 13737
@leaden sparrow Bump

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 6:53 PM

#

@prisma wave You messed with adding dependencies already?
Managed to add it but right now it requires me to add my repository to the buildscript which i don't want to (if it was on maven central it'd be simple i guess)

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 6:53 PM

#

as in dependencies for a gradle plugin?

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 6:54 PM

#

Yeah, like the plugin itself adds a dependency to the project

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 6:54 PM

#

oh that's easy

#

but yeah the repository has to be added too

#

but that's not really a problem imo

#

pdm implicitly adds my repo, it just doesn't show up in the actual buildscript

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 6:55 PM

#

This is what i have, the dependency works, but the repository doesn't, it never searches on that repository

📎 unknown.png

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 6:57 PM

#

uh pretty sure it doesn't need to be that complicated

#

            project.repositories.maven {
                it.setUrl(PDM_REPO_URL)
            }```

#

this is what pdm does

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 6:59 PM

#

Doing it like that still doesn't search on the repository when resolving the plugin 😦

📎 unknown.png

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 7:00 PM

#

hm

#

probably something to do with the afterEvaluate

#

pdm does it when the plugin gets "called"

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 7:02 PM

#

Same thing >.<
I might just send it to central i guess

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 7:02 PM

#

I don't think that's a good solution

#

the user might not even have central declared

ocean quartz Oct 6, 2020, 7:03 PM

#

Good point

leaden sparrow Oct 6, 2020, 7:03 PM

#

@obtuse gale any replacement for simpleyaml it doesnt seem to work with a Maven Plugin

obtuse gale Oct 6, 2020, 7:04 PM

#

it works with maven?

leaden sparrow Oct 6, 2020, 7:04 PM

#

no i am making a maven plugin and once adding it, it wont package anymore

obtuse gale Oct 6, 2020, 7:05 PM

#

oh, you can always just serialize an object and write it to a file, then reserialize it or something

#

I guess it depends on what you're doing

leaden sparrow Oct 6, 2020, 7:05 PM

#

no i am modifying the plugin.yml using a maven plugin

#

oh nvm i think i fixed it

dusky drum Oct 6, 2020, 7:15 PM

#

yay new error

#

http://images.virtusdevelops.eu/shareX/6614s3hp.png

#

http://images.virtusdevelops.eu/shareX/uht247mo.png

obtuse gale Oct 6, 2020, 7:15 PM

#

I think I know your problem

#

php

dusky drum Oct 6, 2020, 7:16 PM

#

php = good

obtuse gale Oct 6, 2020, 7:16 PM

#

doubt

leaden sparrow Oct 6, 2020, 7:21 PM

#

emtpy?

#

isnt it empty?

#

@dusky drum

dusky drum Oct 6, 2020, 7:21 PM

#

but how is it empty

leaden sparrow Oct 6, 2020, 7:22 PM

#

you check for emtpy($mail)

dusky drum Oct 6, 2020, 7:22 PM

#

yes

leaden sparrow Oct 6, 2020, 7:22 PM

#

but it should be empty

dusky drum Oct 6, 2020, 7:22 PM

#

no?

#

http://images.virtusdevelops.eu/shareX/r1fe4yjt.png

leaden sparrow Oct 6, 2020, 7:22 PM

#

not emtpy or is it a custom method?

#

what is emtpy?

dusky drum Oct 6, 2020, 7:22 PM

#

php default

#

check if variable is emtpy

leaden sparrow Oct 6, 2020, 7:22 PM

#

no there is no such word

#

its empty

#

check if something is empty

#

https://www.php.net/manual/en/function.empty.php

#

oops

obtuse gale Oct 6, 2020, 7:26 PM

#

Hey

#

I’m starting in dev

#

Anyone can help me by sending me a video or a website to learn how to begin

#

ThNks

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 7:27 PM

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lol

#

gonna need more information

#

developing what?

#

with what language?

#

etc

obtuse gale Oct 6, 2020, 7:28 PM

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I can work in English

#

And developing minecraft servers

old wyvern Oct 6, 2020, 7:28 PM

#

...

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 7:28 PM

#

lmaoo

#

hm

obtuse gale Oct 6, 2020, 7:29 PM

#

I just wana know the basics

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 7:29 PM

#

that's still pretty ambiguous

#

do you mean making plugins?

obtuse gale Oct 6, 2020, 7:29 PM

#

And then I can go into specified stuff

#

Yea I guess ?

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 7:29 PM

#

you don't sound too sure lol

obtuse gale Oct 6, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Well dev a server

#

Like modded stuff

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 7:30 PM

#

mods?

#

or plugins?

#

or both?

obtuse gale Oct 6, 2020, 7:30 PM

#

Both

#

Add new items with special uses

#

And plugins

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 7:30 PM

#

Both of them require knowledge of Java, with the Forge/Fabric and Spigot/Sponge APIs

obtuse gale Oct 6, 2020, 7:30 PM

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I want to learn in a 1 year time to start working for some money

#

Yes, can you refer me to something to learn to use them ?

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 7:31 PM

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I'd recommend you learn pure java (or another JVM language but Java is probably best to start off) and then start learning whatever framework you want to use

obtuse gale Oct 6, 2020, 7:31 PM

#

Is there a good website or good vids about it

onyx loom Oct 6, 2020, 7:31 PM

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(or another JVM language
do i say it

old wyvern Oct 6, 2020, 7:31 PM

#

http://hyperskill.org/

JetBrains

JetBrains Academy: A hands-on platform for learning to program

Introducing JetBrains Academy – a hands-on platform for learning to program. Learn to program by creating working applications step by step in an interactive environment integrated with JetBrains IDEs.

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 7:31 PM

#

uh there's loads, I used sololearn personally but if you want videos there's Hyperskill/Jetbrains Academy or a few udemy courses

#

do i say it
no

#

well

onyx loom Oct 6, 2020, 7:31 PM

#

😦

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 7:31 PM

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depends what "it" is

#

there's a very good jvm language coming soon

onyx loom Oct 6, 2020, 7:31 PM

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starts with a E

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 7:31 PM

#

yes

#

say it

onyx loom Oct 6, 2020, 7:32 PM

#

KOTLIN

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 7:32 PM

#

TRAITOR

obtuse gale Oct 6, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Is it worth dev for money ?

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 7:32 PM

#

what

old wyvern Oct 6, 2020, 7:32 PM

#

KOTLIN
@onyx loom
You seem to have spelt that wrong, let me correct you
ELARA*

onyx loom Oct 6, 2020, 7:32 PM

#

o

obtuse gale Oct 6, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Cuz I’m french and there a big French community that opens servers like weekly

onyx loom Oct 6, 2020, 7:32 PM

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my bad

obtuse gale Oct 6, 2020, 7:32 PM

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And they need dev

#

They pay 500+ for a project or a %

#

It’s very often

#

It depends

#

I don’t know if it’s more worth going into dev or into graphic

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 7:33 PM

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you will probably need at least a year of experience for professional development

obtuse gale Oct 6, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Like doing images and sites and all

prisma wave Oct 6, 2020, 7:33 PM

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but yes, it can pay very well

obtuse gale Oct 6, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Yes I know

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That’s why I’m gonna start training in my free time

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I’m 15 and my classm8 got a selling website

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He basically works like amazon but he doesn’t ship