#dev-general | HelpChat | Page 191

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 7:42 AM

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most people know us for placeholderapi

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not much blocky

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just exposure

analog crater Sep 13, 2020, 7:42 AM

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Oh oof. Thats why there's always the same group of people in #development and #dev-general

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 7:43 AM

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?

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wym jolly

empty flint Sep 13, 2020, 7:43 AM

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Oh oof. Thats why there's always the same group of people in #development and #dev-general
@analog crater Sounds like you feel like that's a bad thing?

analog crater Sep 13, 2020, 7:44 AM

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No? I just mean that there is always the same people dominating those xhats. I believe this is causated by the discord primarily known as a support server for PAPI not a development server.

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 7:44 AM

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the same people doing what?

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asking questions about papi?

analog crater Sep 13, 2020, 7:44 AM

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No....

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Dominating the chats by talking about topics such as kotlin or shit like that

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Honestly, I find it rare to see anyone new

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 7:45 AM

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I don't see how you could infer that from this server's relationship to papi

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papi has absolutely nothing todo with kotlin

analog crater Sep 13, 2020, 7:46 AM

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Oml thats not what I meant. It wa sjust an example of a topic. This server is known as a PlaceholderAPI not a hangout for developers. Thats why there's rarely any new developers who stay

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 7:46 AM

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ah

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we have been trying to branch out a bit over the last year or so

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the introduction of this very channel is an example of that

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the problem is, we're also trying to get partnered/verified (ironically in the same timeframe)

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so it's kinda one or the other

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papi vs diversity

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we chose papi

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if/when we get partnered, I'm sure we'll push the development aspect of hc a bit more

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 9:00 AM

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👁️

analog crater Sep 13, 2020, 9:00 AM

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Ei

distant sun Sep 13, 2020, 9:34 AM

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But @quiet depot :( I need it

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 9:36 AM

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then fix it urself

distant sun Sep 13, 2020, 9:50 AM

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Idk how

empty flint Sep 13, 2020, 9:50 AM

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@distant sun wanna send over the source code? I could maybe take a look?

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Or is that about something else?

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Also, why does processResources get executed when running the build in IntelliJ?

distant sun Sep 13, 2020, 9:51 AM

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https://github.com/games647/LambdaAttack I need 1.16.1+ support

GitHub

games647/LambdaAttack

Minecraft bot for servers. Currently supports stress testing. More features are planned - games647/LambdaAttack

obtuse gale Sep 13, 2020, 9:52 AM

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I can try, ill probably fail but im really bored

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 9:54 AM

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@empty flint https://github.com/PiggyPiglet/LambdaAttack for a head start

GitHub

PiggyPiglet/LambdaAttack

Minecraft bot for 1.11, 1.12, 1.14 & 1.15 servers. Currently supports stress testing. More features are planned - PiggyPiglet/LambdaAttack

empty flint Sep 13, 2020, 9:56 AM

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Ah jeez

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Why does it fail on version 1.16.1?

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And what the fuck is 1.16.3?

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wait

obtuse gale Sep 13, 2020, 9:58 AM

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the latest version?

empty flint Sep 13, 2020, 9:58 AM

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1.16.3 is already out?!

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when?!

obtuse gale Sep 13, 2020, 9:59 AM

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mm

empty flint Sep 13, 2020, 9:59 AM

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How

obtuse gale Sep 13, 2020, 9:59 AM

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like the other day I think

empty flint Sep 13, 2020, 9:59 AM

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Ah fuck then I gotta update my own shit as well

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:((((

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https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/buildtools/#latest

BuildTools | SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

The home of Spigot a high performance, no lag customized CraftBukkit Minecraft server API, and BungeeCord, the cloud server proxy.

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This doesn't specify anything about 1.16.3

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wtf

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 10:00 AM

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me when 1.16.5 adds support for commonlisp scripting 👍 😏

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Probably isn't out on spigot yet

dusky drum Sep 13, 2020, 10:04 AM

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maven so gud
Failed to execute goal org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-compiler-plugin:3.1:compile (default-compile) on project lambdaattack-version: Fatal error compiling****

obtuse gale Sep 13, 2020, 10:06 AM

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maven bad

dusky drum Sep 13, 2020, 10:06 AM

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yay

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not even dependencies work

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http://images.virtusdevelops.eu/shareX/avyec5gr.png

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http://images.virtusdevelops.eu/shareX/9dptpvmz.png

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wop

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wrong screnshot

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http://images.virtusdevelops.eu/shareX/bgnr2jhg.png

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 10:10 AM

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@dusky drum it will error in ij but maven can compile it

dusky drum Sep 13, 2020, 10:11 AM

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aha

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how

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 10:11 AM

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mvn package?

dusky drum Sep 13, 2020, 10:11 AM

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aha so compile doesnt work but package does wierd intellij

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 10:12 AM

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and @empty flint both spiglet and paper have 1.16.3 builds

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 10:12 AM

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I mean gradle is the same

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 10:12 AM

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no it aint

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gradle literally can’t do what maven does here

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which sucks

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or maybe it can, I personally haven’t figured out how to tho

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that is having multiple versions of the same dep

dusky drum Sep 13, 2020, 10:16 AM

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for me that lambada attack does nothing when i run it, like it just throws null

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 10:17 AM

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well duh, it’s broken

dusky drum Sep 13, 2020, 10:17 AM

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ow

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whats broken in it?

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 10:17 AM

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it throws null

dusky drum Sep 13, 2020, 10:17 AM

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imagine throwing entire error 🙂

obtuse gale Sep 13, 2020, 10:18 AM

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imagine null

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I can

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because spring is fucking giving me null for no reason and this is kotlin 😠

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 10:21 AM

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Well I mean make it not null

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Duh

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 10:21 AM

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ez

dusky drum Sep 13, 2020, 10:21 AM

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make it throw Frosty

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 10:24 AM

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It is not spring's fault

blissful sluice Sep 13, 2020, 10:41 AM

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Nah make it throw piggy

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 11:07 AM

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@quiet depot I mean it's the same in that compiling with intellij's system won't work

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 11:12 AM

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Elara build tool when?

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 11:14 AM

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we will need one

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Might just add gradle support

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Could be easier

obtuse gale Sep 13, 2020, 12:24 PM

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im bored what should i make lol

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 12:55 PM

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a familiar question

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one I usually answer by looking at other people's thingys and seeing how I could make them better

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 12:56 PM

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think of a simple idea and overabstract it

obtuse gale Sep 13, 2020, 12:56 PM

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like?

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 12:57 PM

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I usually love making libraries

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 12:57 PM

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I wanted to convert a POJO to a GUI and ended up making a reflection library AND a GUI framework for a simple thing

obtuse gale Sep 13, 2020, 12:57 PM

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I usually love making libraries
linraries for most things already exist lol

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 12:57 PM

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so?

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 12:57 PM

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Recreate it

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 12:57 PM

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and also, not true

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 12:57 PM

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But better / worse

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 12:58 PM

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Recreate it
this

obtuse gale Sep 13, 2020, 12:58 PM

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like theres nothing wrong with command/gui libaries that already exist

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 12:58 PM

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no matter how useless, recreate it

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 12:58 PM

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get a gimmick

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 12:59 PM

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all of my projects are either commissions or just recreations of others' ideas

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 12:59 PM

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make your own language

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Elara 2

obtuse gale Sep 13, 2020, 12:59 PM

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sounsd hard

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 12:59 PM

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eh

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ANTLR is pretty easy

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Ish

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And that does most of the work for you

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 12:59 PM

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yo bm do u know if conflicting file separators will fuck wit java?

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obtuse gale Sep 13, 2020, 1:00 PM

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is that something i should actually look into? itd be interesting but sounds very hard

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:00 PM

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I'd like to think they wouldn't @quiet depot

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:00 PM

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@quiet depot I believe Java should deal with that

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:00 PM

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@obtuse gale it's kinda tricky but quite fun

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:00 PM

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getting a java.io.IOException: The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:00 PM

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Even if it's very simple

empty flint Sep 13, 2020, 1:00 PM

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Is this working for anybody else with gradle: Could not find org.spigotmc:spigot-api:1.16.3-R0.1-SNAPSHOT. ?

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:00 PM

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Hmm maybe it is then

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just do a little string replace?

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:01 PM

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@empty flint you got the repository config?

empty flint Sep 13, 2020, 1:01 PM

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@empty flint you got the repository config?
@jovial warren Not sure what you mean

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What repo config are you refering to?

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:01 PM

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maven { url 'https://hub.spigotmc.org/nexus/content/repositories/snapshots/' } in Groovy DSL I believe

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:02 PM

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nah that didn't fix it bm :/

empty flint Sep 13, 2020, 1:02 PM

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I think I do, it works with 1.16.2

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lemme check

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:02 PM

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replacing / with \ or the other way around?

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:02 PM

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you sure Spigot even supports 1.16.3 yet btw?

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:02 PM

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\ with /

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:02 PM

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Could be a windows thing

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Would E:/ work?

empty flint Sep 13, 2020, 1:03 PM

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you sure Spigot even supports 1.16.3 yet btw?
@jovial warren Well I can build it with BuildTools so I think it should, right?

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:03 PM

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yeah

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might be todo with the fact it's an absolute path

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:03 PM

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if you're using BuildTools, you need mavenLocal()

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:03 PM

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not sure why it is an absolute path

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:03 PM

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idk

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maybe try with \ everywhere?

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:04 PM

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yeah tried that too

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same result

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:04 PM

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this is why Windows is annoying lol

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because Windows likes to be stupid and do things differently from literally everything else

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browsers use /, Mac & Linux use /, but Windows says "hey let's be dicks and say fuck everyone else, we're gonna use \ instead, just to make things more complex"

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:08 PM

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I mean

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I doubt / was a "standard" when DOS became a thing

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:09 PM

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Get that pepper of there

unreal briar Sep 13, 2020, 1:10 PM

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Windows is underrated

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:10 PM

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doesn't it have like

unreal briar Sep 13, 2020, 1:10 PM

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It just works

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:10 PM

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70% market share

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lol

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:10 PM

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more like 98%

unreal briar Sep 13, 2020, 1:10 PM

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By the technical community

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Market share for linux is mainly cloud

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:10 PM

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Apparently it's about 78% on desktop

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How is that underrated lol

unreal briar Sep 13, 2020, 1:11 PM

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(servers)

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:11 PM

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are you talking about windows being underrated for servers stef?

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cuz if so

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windows is overrated for servers

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:11 PM

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windows server sucks ass

unreal briar Sep 13, 2020, 1:11 PM

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Ah, for servers its overrated

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But with WSL 2 it's getting better

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Being able to run both windows and linux containers with native performance

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:12 PM

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WSL2 is nice

unreal briar Sep 13, 2020, 1:13 PM

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EEE

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:13 PM

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Apart from when it broke and I had to reinstall it lol

unreal briar Sep 13, 2020, 1:13 PM

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Embrace, Extend, Extinguish

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:13 PM

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meaning?

unreal briar Sep 13, 2020, 1:13 PM

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Meaning you embrace some tech

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You extend it with your huge microsoft resources

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:13 PM

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also can we all just sit back and admire Bukkit's deobfuscation of Minecraft server code

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:14 PM

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absolutely not

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:14 PM

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microsoft doesn't really do that anymore stef

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 1:14 PM

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nice one

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:14 PM

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lol

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let's not just select 10+ images and spam the submit button

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 1:15 PM

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imgur galleries 👀

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:15 PM

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wut

unreal briar Sep 13, 2020, 1:15 PM

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Yeah, they took a more open but the idea still stands

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For example a company may rather want a windows server that has no worry running either linux or windows VS just linux

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And yeah virtualisation but that's not the same thing

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:16 PM

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https://imgur.com/gallery/7rcpDdc

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there we go

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:16 PM

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I genuinely can't see a use case for Windows server apart from domains in schools and things

unreal briar Sep 13, 2020, 1:16 PM

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Cloud Gaming

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Spin up windows docker images with the games pre-installed

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:17 PM

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when you're starting your type names with I, that's supposed to mean it's an interface

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:19 PM

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lel

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prefixing with i is an anti pattern

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:19 PM

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yeah ik

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but if you're gonna use that anti-pattern, at least use it correctly

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:20 PM

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Favourite anti pattern

empty flint Sep 13, 2020, 1:20 PM

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How do I include classes from another project in gradle that is on my disk without declaring them as submodules?

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:20 PM

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also, AbstractHorse = interface apparently

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:20 PM

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use the flatfile repository format blocky

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there's an example on my tutorial

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https://wiki.helpch.at/piggys-barn/java/gradle/tutorial

Tutorial

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:21 PM

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"Piggy's Barn"
always loved that name lol

empty flint Sep 13, 2020, 1:22 PM

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use the flatfile repository format blocky
@quiet depot So I have to compile the other project into a jar and then I can import the classes from the jar?

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:22 PM

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believe so

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you might be able to only do specific classes

empty flint Sep 13, 2020, 1:23 PM

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Oh that's something else

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repositories {
  flatDir {
    dirs 'libs'
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How do I declare a dependency to that flatfile repo?

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:24 PM

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You just declare it as normal I believe

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:24 PM

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implementation name: "jar-name"

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 1:25 PM

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I'm still annoyed you name it placeholderapi instead of PlaceholderAPI as the project name Piggy -.-

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:25 PM

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you realise having it lower case is actually better right?

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it's the convention

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WebStorm actually has that built-in as of a certain update, where you can't have project names that have upper case characters in them

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:26 PM

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Webstorm != Gradle

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Afaik there is no convention

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:26 PM

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but still, placeholderapi > PlaceholderAPI

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:27 PM

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IDIOT

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absolute fucking idiot

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jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:28 PM

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what's so stupid about that?

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:28 PM

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returning "test" instead of the field

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:28 PM

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omfg lol

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:29 PM

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wew ok

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expansions can have configs now

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that took ages

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:29 PM

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@File?

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is PAPI 3 annotation-based?

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actually I know the answer to that

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:30 PM

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annotations are used where appropriate

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:30 PM

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also what's that key system I've seen in the API for?

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:31 PM

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everything

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:31 PM

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Key, Keyable, Keys, KeyFactory, KeyWhateverTheFuckElse, the list goes on

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 1:31 PM

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Lmao Piggy

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Gotta love those silly mistakes amirite

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:31 PM

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player.get(PlayerKeys.NAME)

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player.get(PlayerKeys.UUID)

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player.get(PlayerKeys.INVENTORY)

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etc

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 1:31 PM

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I assume all expansions will need to be rewriten for the new system right?

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:32 PM

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nah ima make a compat layer

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 1:32 PM

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ew nah, make it not compatible so all the expansions look nice fingerguns

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:32 PM

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for the first few versions

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I'd say give people time to migrate over to the new system and then basically say "anyone who hasn't migrated their shit over to the new system can go fuck themselves"

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:33 PM

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yep

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:33 PM

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but in a nicer way than that

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 1:33 PM

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Basically the same thing that was done for the ez hook or whatever the fuck it was called

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:33 PM

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i'm still not sold on the api tbh

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I'm not sure on having two ways to register placeholders

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might change it up

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 1:33 PM

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Well then only have 1

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:34 PM

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what are the current methods Pig?

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:34 PM

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@Override
    public void enable() {
        System.out.println("Enabled test");

        registerPlaceholder("name", context -> context.getPlayer().get(Keys.NAME).orElse("null"));
    }

    @Placeholder("uuid")
    public String uuid(@NotNull final PlaceholderContext context) {
        return context.getPlayer().get(Keys.UUID).orElse(UUID.nameUUIDFromBytes("null".getBytes())).toString();
    }```

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:34 PM

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okay so with a lambda

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or?

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:35 PM

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or with a method

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:35 PM

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https://astonbitecode.github.io/blog/post/j4rs_0.6.0/

Aston's Programming Thoughts

Announcing j4rs

j4rs stands for “Java for Rust” and allows effortless calls to Java code, from Rust.
Some time ago, on a need to call Java code from Rust, I started the j4rs project. The main idea was to implement a crate that would give the ability to its users to make calls to Java easily,...

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PDM for rust?

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:35 PM

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Absolutely not

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:35 PM

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Maven download

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:35 PM

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also what about doing a Spring and using classpath scanning to register placeholders internally

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:35 PM

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// Create a JVM
let jvm = JvmBuilder::new().build().unwrap();

// Define a Maven Artifact
let artifact = MavenArtifact::from("org.apache.commons:commons-lang3:3.9");

// Deploy the artifact in order to call it from our Rust code
jvm.deploy_maven(artifact).unwrap();

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:35 PM

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oh no

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:35 PM

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wym bardy?

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:36 PM

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wow they stole my incredibly original idea wtf

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:36 PM

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Jvm in rust

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kind of cool

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:36 PM

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Rust in JVM

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:36 PM

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I want that

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bindings or whatever

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:36 PM

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Rust scripting support

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:36 PM

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Like

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How does it bind C to java

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:37 PM

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it's just implemented in the JVM I think

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:37 PM

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what about structs/objects

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:37 PM

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@quiet depot I mean basically looking for anything on classpath annotated with annotations for example and registering them internally

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:37 PM

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There are no natively implemented objects?

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:37 PM

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like what Guice does with it's DI

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:37 PM

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wait

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so can I use rust struct from java or not

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:37 PM

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erm that's basically what we do

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:37 PM

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@jovial warren guice doesn't do that?

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:38 PM

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what does it do then?

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:38 PM

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@heady birch idk probably not

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:38 PM

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nothing

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:38 PM

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it scans classes you tell it to

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:38 PM

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Guice doesn't do classpath scanning

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:38 PM

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guice does nothing

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except add 4 mb to the jar file

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:38 PM

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You bind classes statically and the rest is resolved with reflection

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Lol

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:38 PM

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ah okay

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:38 PM

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code gen

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:38 PM

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isn't classpath scanning easier though?

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:38 PM

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ehhh

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Easier for the user

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Trickier to implement

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:39 PM

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yeah

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:39 PM

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And it adds a degree of complexity

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:39 PM

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I mean, VMware did it (VMware are the ones behind Spring), and well

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:39 PM

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wat

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:39 PM

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Oh

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Spring makes a load of meta or something

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:39 PM

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Spring does big brain things

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:40 PM

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rpf does big brain things

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:40 PM

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If you try decompiling it

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All the actual project files are in like /boot-inf/ or something

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:40 PM

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yeah but RPF only works with Guice and it's still in-dev

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:40 PM

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Isn't spring boot just a wrapper for the XML stuff?

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What's wrong with guice

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Nothing

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:40 PM

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Everything

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First of all you need guava

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:41 PM

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Poppycock

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:41 PM

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No one wants guava

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Lol

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:41 PM

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Guice isn't as idiomatic as say Koin is for Kotlin users

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:41 PM

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koin bad

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:41 PM

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Koin good

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you bad

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:41 PM

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no

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:41 PM

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https://tenor.com/upk7.gif

Tenor

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:41 PM

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Pico container

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:41 PM

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It uses field injection for everything

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bad design

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:41 PM

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No

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No!

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:41 PM

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koin?

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or pico

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pico is strictly constructor iirc

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:42 PM

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Koin uses field injection

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:42 PM

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Koin

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:42 PM

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Apart from being made in like 2000 its fine

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:42 PM

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dumb decision

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:42 PM

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val yourField by inject<YourClass>()

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:42 PM

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Field injection bad

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:42 PM

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very idiomatic for Kotlin

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:42 PM

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No

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Field injection bad constructor injection good

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:42 PM

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Constructor injection means that the object needs to be controlled by the DI framework

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:42 PM

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Being idiomatic doesn't matter if it leads to bad code

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exactly

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:42 PM

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every used Jboss application server?

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:43 PM

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Which is what a DI framework should do

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:43 PM

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meaning you're basically taking away any instantiation

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:43 PM

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Which is what a DI framework should do

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:43 PM

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says who?

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:43 PM

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Both guice and spring heavily discourage the use of field injection

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Because it makes the dependencies of a class too implicit

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:44 PM

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field injection isn't against the law

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:44 PM

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it should be

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It's bad design

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:44 PM

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you're bad design

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:44 PM

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🙄

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:45 PM

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I mean, don't get me wrong, I think Spring is better than Koin, but there are some situations where you need to be able to control the instantiation of the object, especially when you're working with Spigot

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:45 PM

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You are hereby being sentenced to life in prison for using field injection within a java application

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:45 PM

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execution*

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death sentence

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:45 PM

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😮

empty flint Sep 13, 2020, 1:45 PM

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@quiet depot is there a way to use the + for jar versioning purposes?

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:45 PM

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evil

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@empty flint using + is an anti pattern

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:45 PM

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you try using constructor injection with Bukkit then

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:45 PM

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wdym

empty flint Sep 13, 2020, 1:45 PM

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I just always want to use the latest jar from the flatfile repo

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:45 PM

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with Koin, I can just load the modules in onEnable for use around the project

quiet depot Sep 13, 2020, 1:45 PM

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i use constructor injection exclusively with bukkit

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:45 PM

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Guice can do that too?

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That's kind of the point

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You initialise the modules upon startup

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:46 PM

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I think I'm confusing DI with Spring's method of DI

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:46 PM

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yes

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:46 PM

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because Spring and Koin are the only two DI frameworks I've ever used

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:47 PM

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Don't say guice bad if you've never used it

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:47 PM

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Spinjector

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:47 PM

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Elara inject

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:47 PM

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Also N had a better concept of DI

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:47 PM

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Just kidding

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No DI allowed in elara

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:47 PM

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N.get("itemName")

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:47 PM

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N.el?

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:47 PM

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gives you the instance instantly

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Are you making elara

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Wonder how sxtannas odin is coming along lol

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:48 PM

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Bad

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Odin sucks

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Yugi is currently doing all the work for elara

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Ima make an interpreter or something eventually

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:48 PM

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Add let mut and &

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:49 PM

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we have let mut

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Pointers might be a thing

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Maybe not

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:49 PM

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use a different synbol for pointers

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use the hand cursor icon instead

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'pointer'

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►or this lol

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:51 PM

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we will use = and == for pointers

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:51 PM

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emoji

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:51 PM

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let a = ="hello"

let b = ==(a + 1)

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Hot

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segfault

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 1:52 PM

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ugly

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:52 PM

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lol

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Rust gets everything right

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:53 PM

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only a fool says a language is ugly
David 9:36

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Good old david

ocean quartz Sep 13, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Hmm I don't like that either
Why not use the common *

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Not readable enough

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 1:54 PM

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I may be a fool, but atleast I'm not a weirdo who thinks that's nice fingerguns

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:54 PM

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looks like multiplication

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= and == is very clear

ocean quartz Sep 13, 2020, 1:54 PM

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Imo == is confusing because it's already an operator

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:54 PM

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it's whitespace sensitive

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 1:55 PM

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» use this

ocean quartz Sep 13, 2020, 1:56 PM

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That one would be nice but it's not easily accessible
It isn't a character in english keyboard

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 1:56 PM

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julia moment

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Imagine not having a numpad, weak af

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 1:56 PM

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wait what

ocean quartz Sep 13, 2020, 1:56 PM

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I mean i have a numpad, but not everyone does

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 1:56 PM

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thats on the numpad?

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Alt + 1 + 7 + 5

ocean quartz Sep 13, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Every character is, Kali

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 1:57 PM

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oh das crazy

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had a pc for like 5 years and never knew that 🌝

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 1:57 PM

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lol

ocean quartz Sep 13, 2020, 1:58 PM

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I use alt + 2 + 5 + 5 a lot because it's a blank character that isn't whitespace

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 1:58 PM

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↓

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◙

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:58 PM

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https://github.com/grantmd/node-adsb/blob/37259661f62982c031ebc2f1e257c5be9135d247/lib/adsb.js#L164

GitHub

grantmd/node-adsb

An ADS-B decoder in node. Contribute to grantmd/node-adsb development by creating an account on GitHub.

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Related to earlier

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Here you can see same process used for 4 different messag types

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 1:58 PM

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It's funny cause you can only use alt and your numpad to write everything

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It's all caps tho :((

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:59 PM

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@hot hull you think alt codes work on all systems?

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 1:59 PM

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Well I mean get good if they don't fingerguns

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jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 1:59 PM

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they only work on Windows

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 1:59 PM

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windows good

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 1:59 PM

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WAIT

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How would A rust enum look in java???

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:00 PM

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and that's a problem when there are a hell of a lot of developers that use Linux for development

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 2:00 PM

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😭

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:00 PM

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rust enum { }```

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Lol speaking of Linux it randomly just stopped accepting my password

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 2:01 PM

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Linux is superior, but I ain't got the braincells to actually use it

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:01 PM

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@heady birch ```java
public enum MyEnum {

MY_ENUM_VALUE(1)

private final int value;

MyEnum(final int value) {
    this.value = value;
}

}

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 2:01 PM

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no

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because enums are kind of instances

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apparently closest thing is a class heirachy

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:01 PM

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enums in Java are instances

ocean quartz Sep 13, 2020, 2:01 PM

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Pretty sure it also worka on Mac

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 2:01 PM

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yes but arnt they singletons

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:01 PM

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yeah

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 2:01 PM

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rust enums are like non singleton

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:01 PM

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closest equivalent is probably sealed class + objects in kotlin

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 2:01 PM

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beans

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:01 PM

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No?

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 2:01 PM

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beans

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:01 PM

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closest equivalent is probably sealed class + objects in kotlin
yeah this maybe

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 2:02 PM

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elara moon

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comeone

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the background

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:elara_moon:

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:02 PM

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Elara's logo doesn't exist yet afaik

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:02 PM

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Elara moon

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It does

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 2:02 PM

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E

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 2:02 PM

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that is the logo

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🙂

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:02 PM

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📎 2.png

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elara moon

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:02 PM

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ah okay

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 2:02 PM

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Looks nice ngl

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:02 PM

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ikr

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:02 PM

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not what's on the GitHub page matey

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 2:03 PM

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altho u need to make it transparent

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:03 PM

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the one on GitHub is a variant?

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Yea

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:03 PM

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is that you asking a question or making a statement

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:03 PM

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Will probably remove the background and use this one

📎 7.jpg

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Both

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We've got lots of variants

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:04 PM

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also, still not sure about using let to define both variables and functions

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Why should functions be any different?

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If they're first class surely they're just variables?

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:04 PM

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because they do different thingys

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a variable is for storing thingys, a function is for doing thingys

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:05 PM

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consider them as lambdas rather than functions

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:05 PM

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then it'd make sense

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so Elara doesn't have the concept of functions then

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:05 PM

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Except functions and lambdas are the same thing

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strictly speaking no

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But a lambda is basically just a function anyway

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:06 PM

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strictly speaking no
okay mate

📎 2020-09-13_15-06.png

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:06 PM

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yes

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Because they are referred to as functions

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Because they are named

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a lambda is just a function without a name

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And vice versa

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:07 PM

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a lambda is just a function without a name
wat

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:07 PM

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that's the definition of a lambda

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In any language

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An anonymous function

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:07 PM

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actually you're right

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it's an anonymous function

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:07 PM

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i.e a Function without a name

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:07 PM

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not really

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actually, no, you're right

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it's a function that cannot in any way be identified

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:08 PM

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In computer programming, an anonymous function is a function definition that is not bound to an identifier.

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As far as elara is concerned, functions / lambdas are no different to any other variable

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:09 PM

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which seems a bit weird to me

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since like pretty much every other programming language makes a clear distinction between those, as it's much easier to read

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:09 PM

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clojure doesn't

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Not entirely anyway

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:10 PM

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one of the reasons I don't like the language

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:10 PM

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(defn name [args]) is just a macro that expands to (def name fn [args]) i.e a lambda

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Iirc anyway

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:10 PM

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wtf is that

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yeah this is why I don't use Clojure

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:11 PM

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🙄

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 2:11 PM

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I'm so bored I legit just watched a guy clean his car for 40min..

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:11 PM

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defn

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lol

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:11 PM

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like I said it's shorthand for def fn

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 2:11 PM

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I'm so bored I legit just watched a guy clean his car for 40min..
@hot hull boy do i have the video for u then

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2Tzd7MiOj8&ab_channel=Avicii

YouTube

Avicii

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honestly, this is a great watch

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Already watched it

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 2:12 PM

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ow

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:12 PM

#

Also if functions are first class, then logically they should be declared in the same way as variables

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Having 2 separate syntaxes implies that they are different entities

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when 3 and ```
(Int a) => a * 2

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:13 PM

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is it just me or is programming like the worst way to relieve your boredom lol

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it just kinda makes you more bored

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 2:14 PM

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If you have a fun thing to work on it's actually a good way, atleast for me

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:14 PM

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I mean, don't get me wrong, I love programming, but sometimes, it can get really, really boring

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Like right now I've finished a plugin so I don't have anything to do, so I'm just fiddling around with shit and it's hella boring

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Also bruh why the fuck did youtube change the video size on mobile, like the entire video image is over the screen size

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 2:17 PM

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its all fun

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untill you stuck on decisions 🙂

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:17 PM

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I like programming, I just don't have all that many ideas

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 2:19 PM

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Random idea generator fingerguns

old wyvern Sep 13, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Also bard, about your argument about functions not being similar to variables, look into von neumann architecture

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:20 PM

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yeah but if I google "programming projects" or some bull shit, I either get projects that I can't be assed to do or that I have no use for

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also Yugi I think that was something we learnt in Computer Science at some point

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still uses data and instructions though, both of which are different from each other

old wyvern Sep 13, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Not computer science, computer org. And arch

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Von nuemanns style i.e, our current model stores both in the same place

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Data alongside instructions

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:22 PM

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ah okay

#

yeah but that doesn't necessarily make it very readable

old wyvern Sep 13, 2020, 2:23 PM

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Dont see it not being readable in any way

#

Also consider the fact that functions act exactly like variables in elara

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First class functions

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:24 PM

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yeah true

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:25 PM

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#dev-general message smh

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:26 PM

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I think I prefer OOP tbh

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Biased

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:26 PM

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also @prisma wave, making Discord bot not in Spring bad

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:26 PM

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ah you saw that

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meh

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Classgraph + guice is usually close enough

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and no 40s startup time

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:29 PM

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wdym 40s start time?

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BardyBot starts in under 3 seconds

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:29 PM

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spring slow

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For startup anyway

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:29 PM

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wat

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 2:29 PM

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Everything is slow

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:29 PM

#

@heady birch

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"Spring is slow on startup"

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 2:30 PM

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Robert de niro is waiting

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Yes I can agree

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You lose a little start up time

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For years saved on development

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:30 PM

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Lol

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:31 PM

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@prisma wave 40 seconds though? wtf do you have in this thing?

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:31 PM

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 2:31 PM

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just think of all that precious enterprise time saved while developing in spring!

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:31 PM

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^

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and Spring does thingys better

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Some of mine takes 50 / minute

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Spring >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Classgraph + Guice

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Absolutely not

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too much ceremony

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:32 PM

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wat

old wyvern Sep 13, 2020, 2:32 PM

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How about handle dependency yourself

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Register all commands in like 8 lines

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:32 PM

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@heady birch kill this man

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Spring overkill

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Thats like saying

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How about handling everything by your self

old wyvern Sep 13, 2020, 2:33 PM

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https://youtu.be/b8IOvFcBTvs

YouTube

Andy Balaam

Dependency Injection frameworks: reasons to avoid them

DI frameworks were written to solve real problems and work very well, but I prefer to avoid using them. I will try to explain why, and also how I try to structure my projects to avoid those problems arising in the first place.

Support: https://www.patreon.com/andybalaam

Sli...

▶ Play video

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 2:33 PM

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Like the whole world

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Let your tests drive you

old wyvern Sep 13, 2020, 2:33 PM

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🤷‍♂️

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:33 PM

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test driven development

frigid badge Sep 13, 2020, 2:33 PM

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guice sucks

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:33 PM

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test driven development
aaaaaaaahhhhhhh

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someone please teach me dis

heady birch Sep 13, 2020, 2:34 PM

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testIfThisMethodIsGoingToWorkWhenProvidedNullAndNotAndInteger

frigid badge Sep 13, 2020, 2:34 PM

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assembly best

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:34 PM

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because I have a habit of making software without writing a single test

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:34 PM

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justw rite unit 5est

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:34 PM

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for example, BardyBot is getting quite large now, and I haven't written a single test, at all

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:34 PM

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Junit3

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kunit5

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:34 PM

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there are like 20+ classes in BardyBot and not a single test

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:35 PM

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Eunit

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Gounit

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Assemblyunit

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:35 PM

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Cunit

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lol

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:35 PM

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C++unit jupiter

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Elara unit test

old wyvern Sep 13, 2020, 2:35 PM

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EUT

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:35 PM

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let test { validate

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assert-equal

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Google?

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 2:38 PM

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One of the craft evets jakub

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CraftItemEvent is cancellable iirc whereas PrepareItemCraft is not

hot heron Sep 13, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Yeah tdd is not taught enough tbh

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:43 PM

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TDD?

hot heron Sep 13, 2020, 2:43 PM

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yeah, test driven development

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:43 PM

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ah okay

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yeah I'm rubbish at testing anything

hot heron Sep 13, 2020, 2:43 PM

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My whole 4 years in college and I think 1 class touched on how to write tests

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but not enough to be useful

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:44 PM

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I test it manually rather than writing tests to test it automatically

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:46 PM

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Unit tests are easy

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And invaluable

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:47 PM

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yeah but they're not something that I've got in to the habit of doing

hot heron Sep 13, 2020, 2:47 PM

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They're one of those things that if you're not used to doing them, then you don't do them ha

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:47 PM

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^

hot heron Sep 13, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Or you don't even understand them, even if they are simple

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:49 PM

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I mean, I understand them, but I'm just not used to doing them, as you said

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and as I said, I test manually

hot heron Sep 13, 2020, 2:49 PM

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I'm the second one 😛

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I just haven't had much experience with them

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so i overlook them

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:50 PM

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I forget they exist

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PIT is really handy though

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https://pitest.org/

PIT Mutation Testing

#

mutation testing

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basically tells you what you've covered in testing and what you haven't

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a.k.a it tries as hard as it can to break your code and flags up where it wasn't able to break it

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Never got that working

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:52 PM

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oh I got it working easily

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in Maven

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:52 PM

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it ran but just didn't mutate anything

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Ew

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:52 PM

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this was before I started using Gradle

#

these days, I've got in to the pattern of create new project -> gradle -> unselect Java and select Kotlin, select DSL build script -> put in group ID and artifact name -> done

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because Kotlin DSL > Groovy DSL

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I haven't properly used Groovy DSL since I made my first Kotlin DSL project (which was a Spring project, since Spring Initializr will give you a Kotlin DSL build script if you select Kotlin and Gradle)

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 2:57 PM

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Such assholes

📎 unknown.png

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 2:57 PM

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that's a massive oof

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 2:59 PM

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Kotlin DSL bad

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 2:59 PM

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elara dsl 😳

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elara everything

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 3:01 PM

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Let's see if War Thunder still works on my pc fingerguns

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:02 PM

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I think an elara dsl might actually be possible

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Kotlin DSL bad
no matter how many times you say that, you're still wrong lol

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Everything is possible if you try hard enough

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Your only reason as to why I'm wrong involves personal preference

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The groovy DSL is much more flexible

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 3:03 PM

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:((

📎 unknown.png

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Oof

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:07 PM

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@prisma wave technically, both of our views are just opinions, but this is #dev-general, "personal preference" and "opinion" are meaningless here

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:08 PM

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Mine is facts

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 3:08 PM

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all opinions are meaningless imo

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:09 PM

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@prisma wave that is wrong

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:09 PM

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Elaborate

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the groovy DSL is more flexible than kotlin's, it's more mature (having more documenation etc), less verbose, and lets you say you know Groovy

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what does kotlin have

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nothing

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except so called "static typing"

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:11 PM

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Kotlin DSL in my opinion is more readable, and it's more idiomatic towards Kotlin users meaning it's easier to understand

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:13 PM

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that's not really a point

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"the kotlin dsl is more idiomatic for kotlin"

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well yeah

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that doesn't make it better

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And your other point is just opinion

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:18 PM

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well so are your points

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actually no, it's not your points that are opinions, it's you using them as reasons why the Groovy DSL is better that's opinion

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:20 PM

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wut

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Apart from the last one which is a joke all of mine are objective

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:21 PM

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the Kotlin DSL only has less documentation because it's been around for less time, that's like saying Java is better than Kotlin because it's got more documentation

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in what way is the Groovy DSL more "flexible"?

ocean quartz Sep 13, 2020, 3:22 PM

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Groovy is simpler

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:22 PM

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the Kotlin DSL only has less documentation because it's been around for less time, that's like saying Java is better than Kotlin because it's got more documentation
@jovial warren your analogy would only work if the 2 were not interoperable - the kotlin DSL usually has quite different methods of doing things so it needs documentation for everything

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^

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:23 PM

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there is no reason whatsoever why a build language should be less verbose, and the Kotlin DSL isn't all that much more verbose anyway, and it makes much more sense in my opinion

ocean quartz Sep 13, 2020, 3:23 PM

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For example shadowJar
shadowJar { vs task.shadowJar() {

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Groovy has collection literals, less syntax, dynamic typing in this case is actually useful since you don't need to worry about types as much

ocean quartz Sep 13, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Kotlin DSL in a way becomes more verbose

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:23 PM

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It is objectively more verbose

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:24 PM

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but tasks.withType<ShadowJar> means I can look at that and go "oh okay, so we're configuring the task ShadowJar"

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whereas shadowJar {} looks like we're defining a lambda

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:24 PM

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Again that's subjective

ocean quartz Sep 13, 2020, 3:24 PM

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So you can when looking at shadowJar { if you have a functioning neuron

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:25 PM

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You are only saying that because you're viewing it from a kotlin perspective

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:25 PM

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you're viewing it from a Groovy perspective

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Because I'm talking about the groovy DSL

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:25 PM

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the word "better" itself is subjective anyway, it's relative to one's perception and interpretation

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:25 PM

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not necessarily

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:25 PM

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yes necessarily

ocean quartz Sep 13, 2020, 3:26 PM

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I am not viewing it from any perspective only from the perspective of which is more intuitive and i am sorry but Groovy is way more intuitive
You can get the file and start to get it working without needing any sort of documentation explaining that it needs to be specific way

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And even then you can write in many ways

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Not just one

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:26 PM

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in your opinion, Groovy DSL is more intuitive, that's your perspective

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:26 PM

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but tasks.withType<ShadowJar> means I can look at that and go "oh okay, so we're configuring the task ShadowJar"
@jovial warren
whereas shadowJar {} looks like we're defining a lambda
@jovial warren

This entire point is "it's ambiguous because it uses the same syntax as a different language for a different thing"

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Also something can be objectively better

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:27 PM

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wrong (the above sentence)

ocean quartz Sep 13, 2020, 3:27 PM

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Lol that doesn't mean i am looking at it from Groovy's perspective lol
Just means that when looking at it from an intuitive perspective, Groovy comes ahead

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:27 PM

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no you're looking at it from your own perspective

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and so are the rest of us

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:28 PM

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#off-topic message

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lol

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:28 PM

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yeah okay, fine, I was also wrong there

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I'm surprised you bothered to dig that up

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:29 PM

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I just searched "objectively better" and copied the first thing I saw lol

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 3:29 PM

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lol

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no but he right tho

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Ok but let's be honest the XML DSL is objectively the best

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Elara dsl*

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:30 PM

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lol

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 3:30 PM

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xml thonking

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:30 PM

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not objectively, subjectively, and no, I'm not agreeing with that since I haven't seen it

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and I prefer Kotlin over Elara personally since I don't like the idea of functional programming without OOP all that much

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:32 PM

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Elara supports OOP

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To a degree

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It's just not the most idiomatic way to express most things

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:33 PM

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how do you call functions in elara?

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like in Groovy DSL we call plugins {} and we do the same in Kotlin DSL, what do you do in Elara?

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:33 PM

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oh boy

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yugi might correct me here

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:33 PM

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that doesn't sound good lol

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:33 PM

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since we are having a few problems

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but it's usually either identical to kotlin / java syntax, or ```
function-name arg1 arg2

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but the "infix" syntax might be a problem

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there is a lot of ambiguity

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:34 PM

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oh my

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so how would you deal with things like the plugins block?

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:36 PM

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We've not really got that far yet, at the moment you'd have to use something like plugins (config) => { config.id 'blah' version 'blah' }

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:36 PM

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jesus christ

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:36 PM

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might end up adding a shorthand and / or receiver functions

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actually

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that's partly incorrect

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:36 PM

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that's worse than a Java DSL would be

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:36 PM

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plugins () => {
  id 'blah' version 'blah'
}
``` it would be this at the moment

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I think

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since receiver functions are a thing

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kind of

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:37 PM

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so basically the Groovy DSL but slightly more verbose

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:37 PM

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kind of

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:38 PM

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and kinda worse

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:38 PM

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real talk it probably wouldn't try and replicate gradle

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and we might add consice lambda syntax

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making it syntactically identical to groovy

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but this is a very small very niche example

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monologue time

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where Elara really starts to shine is the type system

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:40 PM

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let name = "Hello"

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I don't think so

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let

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:40 PM

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that's not a type system

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also what's wrong with let

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:40 PM

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this keyword just lets the language down

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:41 PM

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why though?

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:41 PM

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lol

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didn't even react to the really bad pun

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:41 PM

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People seem to say they hate it but can't give a real reason

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soz

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:41 PM

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because it's just no

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:41 PM

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:/

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let reads naturally

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and is used in maths

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so

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val bad let good

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and I will fight anyone who disagrees to the death

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 3:43 PM

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val good let good FINAL STRING NAME bad

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:43 PM

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nahhh

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😦

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define final variable with type STRING with name hello with value "lol"

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 3:45 PM

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📎 delet.jpg

ocean quartz Sep 13, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Kali, this happened yesterday, was definitely not this person's lucky day kek

📎 Untitled.mp4

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 3:46 PM

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lmao

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:46 PM

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how about Transcript lang

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:46 PM

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dev general :(

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this is supposed to be for circlejerking not "gaminG"

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 3:46 PM

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we circlejerk the gaming

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:46 PM

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not on my watch

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the only circlejerking allowed is elara and sometimes clojure

ocean quartz Sep 13, 2020, 3:47 PM

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Games also had to be developed!

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 3:47 PM

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😱

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:47 PM

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but they use stinky c++

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 3:47 PM

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true

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better than java tho 🌝

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:47 PM

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:clojureangrymoon:

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wait no

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that's correct

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clojuremoon

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elaramoon

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clojure 🌚

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 3:48 PM

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kotlin

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:48 PM

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the only circlejerking allowed is elara and sometimes clojure
we should start a rebellion against the monarchy after this

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:48 PM

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yeah can't get kotlin moon can you

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suckers

jovial warren Sep 13, 2020, 3:48 PM

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off with the King's head

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:48 PM

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🙄

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 3:48 PM

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damn

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looks like i gotta make kotlinmoon now

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:48 PM

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it wouldn't work

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wont fit

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wrong shape

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 3:48 PM

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😦

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:48 PM

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meanwhile moons are idiomatic in elara

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another W for the best language ever to be ever made ever

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 3:49 PM

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has the replit competition ended yet lol

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:50 PM

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yeah they haven't announced the winners yet though

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I think we all know who it will be

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 3:51 PM

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🤞

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wait no need for fingers crossed

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its a unanimous decision

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 3:51 PM

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precisely

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if elara doesn't win then the judges must be deluded

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 3:52 PM

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clearly

frigid badge Sep 13, 2020, 4:26 PM

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what's the prize

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 4:27 PM

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10k

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 4:29 PM

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https://photos.app.goo.gl/bcpbesrQhMoQfQnY8

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Discord wouldn't let me send images smh

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 4:30 PM

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👀

frigid badge Sep 13, 2020, 4:30 PM

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lmfao

ocean quartz Sep 13, 2020, 4:34 PM

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For your meme

📎 a5f.png

lunar cypress Sep 13, 2020, 4:39 PM

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google photos

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wow

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new meme sharing page

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 4:49 PM

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lol

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Edited on mobile

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Hold on can you send images to this channel?

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If so discord must think it was malicious or whatever lmao

ocean quartz Sep 13, 2020, 4:50 PM

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Same rules for images as all other channels, tier 2+

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Hm

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📎 Screenshot_20200913-175142_Discord.jpg

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lol

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It must think it's nsfw

lunar cypress Sep 13, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Discord doesn't have such safety features, does it?

prisma wave Sep 13, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Pretty sure it has some degree of it

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📎 Screenshot_20200913-180628_Discord.jpg

jaunty maple Sep 13, 2020, 5:13 PM

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@chilly jungle https://img.mrivanplays.com/DiscordCanary_sZ6dprxHVX.png

dusky drum Sep 13, 2020, 5:16 PM

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yay tommorow i gotta rework line handler in my plugin

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 5:21 PM

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@jaunty maple was handled in #placeholder-api fingerguns

jaunty maple Sep 13, 2020, 5:23 PM

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aaand the guy told me that you've told him that it can't be done @hot hull

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why it can't be

static zealot Sep 13, 2020, 5:24 PM

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...

jaunty maple Sep 13, 2020, 5:24 PM

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why not implement player independent hooks

static zealot Sep 13, 2020, 5:24 PM

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we said its not a thing yet ...

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but the dev of the PlayerList expansion is working on adding that

jaunty maple Sep 13, 2020, 5:25 PM

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ok it looks between us and that guy has some language barrier

hot hull Sep 13, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Why does everyone just rush to conclusions lmao

onyx loom Sep 13, 2020, 8:31 PM

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theres no way my ij just crashed

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what the frick

remote goblet Sep 14, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Does anyone know if you'd be able to hide the items a player is holding in a plugin

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i'm sure it'd be mostly server side but im not convinced

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https://wiki.vg/Protocol#Entity_Equipment

Protocol

hot heron Sep 14, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Yeah you just change the packet or send the packet saying they don't have anything in hand

pliant dagger Sep 14, 2020, 4:32 AM

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@old wyvern are you going to complete my job?

finite cloud Sep 14, 2020, 6:53 AM

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Hey if anyone needs help with plugins or building or gfx then slide me a dm 😆 (Im really damn cheap lol)

obtuse gale Sep 14, 2020, 7:03 AM

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#750658586761232505

empty flint Sep 14, 2020, 8:08 AM

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can I add a dependency on a project to all its subprojects in gradle?

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something like

subprojects {
  dependencies {
    implementation project(this_project)  
  }  
}

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I just don't know how to reference this_project properly without using its name

steel heart Sep 14, 2020, 8:58 AM

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you can do this iirc
subrprojects.each { subproject ->

}

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Else referencing project inside the closure should work

obtuse gale Sep 14, 2020, 9:02 AM

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Anyone ever tried making a discord bot in js with kotlin?

regal gale Sep 14, 2020, 9:03 AM

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What?

obtuse gale Sep 14, 2020, 9:03 AM

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like with kotlin/js

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I found this

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https://github.com/dunste123/discord.js-kotlin/blob/master/src/main/kotlin/Main.kt

GitHub

dunste123/discord.js-kotlin

Using discord.js with kotlin. Contribute to dunste123/discord.js-kotlin development by creating an account on GitHub.

empty flint Sep 14, 2020, 9:43 AM

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Why in the everloving picklejuice is the project declared as its own submodule?

📎 unknown.png

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rootProject.name = 'Blocky Lib'

include 'Blocky Nms Lib'
include 'Blocky Nms Lib:v1_12_R1'
include 'Blocky Nms Lib:v1_13_R1'
include 'Blocky Nms Lib:v1_13_R2'
include 'Blocky Nms Lib:v1_14_R1'
include 'Blocky Nms Lib:v1_15_R1'
include 'Blocky Nms Lib:v1_16_R1'
include 'Blocky Nms Lib:v1_16_R2'

This is the settings.gradle

steel heart Sep 14, 2020, 10:07 AM

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Send ur gradle scripts

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Also prett sure you can declare a vararg of inclusions

hot hull Sep 14, 2020, 10:28 AM

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📎 IMG_20200914_122817.jpg

obtuse gale Sep 14, 2020, 11:21 AM

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Why would spring be giving me a : Null value was assigned to a property... class A on a ClassBRepo#findById line....

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oh wait

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hol up

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oh wait maybe not

empty flint Sep 14, 2020, 12:14 PM

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@steel heart I figured it out. It had to do with spaces in my Module names. Gradle is dumb like that...

astral quiver Sep 14, 2020, 12:58 PM

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fingerguns

empty flint Sep 14, 2020, 1:29 PM

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Do you guys know how I could publish a shadow jar to my local maven repo?

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I can't get it to work with the maven-publish plugin for gradle

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Ah I'm stooopid

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shadowJar already does it for me

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lovely

frail glade Sep 14, 2020, 1:46 PM

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Please keep it to a single channel.

lost edge Sep 14, 2020, 2:08 PM

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Ok so if any of you play 1.16 you would have noticed that cubecraft has hex colors in their motd but if you also play on a lower version of mc you will also see that they still have normal mc colors. Anyone have an idea of how they are determining if someone is using 1.16 or pre 1.16? Are they looking at the handshake packet then modifying the response?

pseudo owl Sep 14, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Hello, i have question about SQL

now i'm getting an input from player and store it to database
if player input is an SQL keyword what's gonna happen
how can i prevent this

example sitiation:

>> input: SELECT //player wrote 'SELECT' to input.

SELECT 'SELECT' FROM menu #probaly it will throw syntax error

because of 'SELECT SELECT' section probaly it will throw syntax error
so players can find an bug or something to break server or database.

hot hull Sep 14, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Well if you put it in `` it shouldn't

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Since it's looking for a string

pseudo owl Sep 14, 2020, 2:13 PM

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for every input

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?

hot hull Sep 14, 2020, 2:13 PM

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I'd assume so

pseudo owl Sep 14, 2020, 2:13 PM

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i will try that thanks

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i have a one small question too

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storing symbols like that in sql

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is it safe

astral quiver Sep 14, 2020, 2:37 PM

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shadowJar already does it for me
@empty flint Actually, if you want the true shadow jar type, you need to apply it in our publish configuration

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if you are using Kotlin DSL:

empty flint Sep 14, 2020, 2:37 PM

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@empty flint Actually, if you want the true shadow jar type, you need to apply it in our publish configuration
@astral quiver Yeah I found that on google

astral quiver Sep 14, 2020, 2:37 PM

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create<MavenPublication>("maven") {
  shadow.component(this)
}

empty flint Sep 14, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Didn't know shadowJar would do that so I didn't even consider it

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stumbled upon it by chance

astral quiver Sep 14, 2020, 2:38 PM

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I will make a PR for PDM to have something like shadow.component(this) as well

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Is a little different, because the focus is to add dependencies in to the Maven POM

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I shift my library that was shading using shadow

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to PDM

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and all my projects kinda break because now, the PDM is Compile Only

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I still use Shadow plugin for the bstats

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But I still have this problem that all the transtive dependencies from my libraries

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My plugin is not getting it because of the compileOnly

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So I will add a Utility to PDM to be able to auto insert in the POM this dependencies

empty flint Sep 14, 2020, 2:50 PM

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@astral quiver Do you happen to know how I can get a ReplaceTokens filter to work with shadowJar?

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import org.apache.tools.ant.filters.FixCrLfFilter
import org.apache.tools.ant.filters.ReplaceTokens

task filter(type: Copy) {
    from 'src/main/webapp'
    into "$buildDir/explodedWar"
    // Substitute property tokens in files
    expand(copyright: '2009', version: '2.3.1')
    expand(project.properties)
    // Use some of the filters provided by Ant
    filter(FixCrLfFilter)
    filter(ReplaceTokens, tokens: [copyright: '2009', version: '2.3.1'])
    // Use a closure to filter each line
    filter { String line ->
        "[$line]"
    }
    // Use a closure to remove lines
    filter { String line ->
        line.startsWith('-') ? null : line
    }
    filteringCharset = 'UTF-8'
}

Something like this

astral quiver Sep 14, 2020, 2:53 PM

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check if shadowJar task depends on it

heady birch Sep 14, 2020, 3:09 PM

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@lost edge They will receive a packet and it will probably contain the protocol version

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Using the protocol version they can tell if its below 1.16 and show old colours, else show the new colours

lost edge Sep 14, 2020, 3:18 PM

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Yea I figured packets... I now wonder if its better to do something like via backwards and look for the closet color for each hex or just edit the response..

heady birch Sep 14, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Depends on the content

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If it's just static text might as well have two seperate strings. one for 1.16 and one for below

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But it is possible to do that closest to thing.

lost edge Sep 14, 2020, 3:20 PM

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thx for the input!

prisma wave Sep 14, 2020, 3:26 PM

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@heady birch static abstract String color()

pseudo owl Sep 14, 2020, 3:27 PM

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hello, i need help i don't know how to do that

i have a folder named "kits" and there is {kit}.yml files
i want to load them and make configs and getting them

any tutorial any idea please

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i searched a lot on google but can't find any usefull tutorial or resource

prisma wave Sep 14, 2020, 3:28 PM

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loop over the directory

pseudo owl Sep 14, 2020, 3:29 PM

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and where can i save them config file variables

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lets suppose i created yaml file and its ready but where can i save

pseudo owl Sep 14, 2020, 4:00 PM

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@prisma wave is it okey?

private HashMap<String, FileConfiguration> configs = new HashMap<String, FileConfiguration>();
    
    public FileConfiguration getConfig(String config) {
        return configs.get(config);
    }
    
    public void createConfig() {
        File[] kitsFile = new File(ShinySystem.getInstance().getDataFolder() + File.separator + "kits").listFiles();
        for(File file : kitsFile){
            if (!file.exists()) {
                file.getParentFile().mkdirs();
                ShinySystem.getInstance().saveResource(file.getName(), false);
             }
            FileConfiguration config = new YamlConfiguration();
            try {
                config.load(file);
            } catch (IOException | InvalidConfigurationException e) {
                e.printStackTrace();
            }
        }
        
    }

prisma wave Sep 14, 2020, 4:00 PM

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https://tryitands.ee

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:)

pseudo owl Sep 14, 2020, 4:00 PM

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no 😄

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i'm asking how is it

prisma wave Sep 14, 2020, 4:00 PM

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:(

hot hull Sep 14, 2020, 4:00 PM

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Liskov

prisma wave Sep 14, 2020, 4:00 PM

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i mean

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does it work?

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^^

pseudo owl Sep 14, 2020, 4:01 PM

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i didn't try yet. i think its not done there should be something more

prisma wave Sep 14, 2020, 4:01 PM

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hmmm

#

well

#

initial observations

#

liskov

#

listFiles() can return null

#

and also, use File(File, String) instead of concatenating with File.separator

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no need to catch a runtime exception too

pseudo owl Sep 14, 2020, 4:03 PM

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okay thanks

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no need to catch a runtime exception too
@prisma wave where

prisma wave Sep 14, 2020, 4:03 PM

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InvalidConfigurationException is runtime iirc

#

maybe not though

hot hull Sep 14, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Pointless to catch that

pseudo owl Sep 14, 2020, 4:04 PM

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its giving error when i remove that

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config.load needs to check

hot hull Sep 14, 2020, 4:04 PM

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uh what

prisma wave Sep 14, 2020, 4:04 PM

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maybe use YamlConfiguration.load instead?

hot hull Sep 14, 2020, 4:04 PM

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loadConfiguration

pseudo owl Sep 14, 2020, 4:05 PM

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okay thanks a lot

steel heart Sep 14, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Yeah you should have a FileConfiguration instance nonfinal which you redeclare with YamlConfiguration.loadConfiguration() when you reload your config.

prisma wave Sep 14, 2020, 4:08 PM

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nonfinal
i'll pass

steel heart Sep 14, 2020, 4:08 PM

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fast_parrot

pseudo owl Sep 14, 2020, 4:08 PM

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what do you mean reloading config ?

steel heart Sep 14, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Just loading it again

prisma wave Sep 14, 2020, 4:09 PM

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plugin.reloadConig

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but not

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like

pseudo owl Sep 14, 2020, 4:09 PM

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i don't have to reload that

prisma wave Sep 14, 2020, 4:09 PM

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good

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make it final then

steel heart Sep 14, 2020, 4:09 PM

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^

prisma wave Sep 14, 2020, 4:09 PM

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immutablemap

steel heart Sep 14, 2020, 4:09 PM

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ImmutableMutableMap

prisma wave Sep 14, 2020, 4:09 PM

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MutableImmutable

steel heart Sep 14, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Lol

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But like immutability is nice

hot hull Sep 14, 2020, 4:10 PM

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mutability inception sheesh

steel heart Sep 14, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Just realized how much I hate static

prisma wave Sep 14, 2020, 4:10 PM

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rich hickey has joined weezer

hot hull Sep 14, 2020, 4:10 PM

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We all do

steel heart Sep 14, 2020, 4:11 PM

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No but I was kind of life with it in a sense

prisma wave Sep 14, 2020, 4:11 PM

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everything is staitc in elara

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apart from 1 thing

pseudo owl Sep 14, 2020, 4:11 PM

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inmutablemaps are java 9 feature i guess

steel heart Sep 14, 2020, 4:11 PM

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Guava