#dev-general | HelpChat | Page 187

onyx loom Sep 5, 2020, 10:34 PM

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strip their limbs

prisma wave Sep 5, 2020, 10:34 PM

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What im saying is, people dont want to hear "wouldnt happen if you were using kotlin".
@distant sun what about "wouldnt happen if you were using clojure/haskell/scala/frigga/odin/elara"?

onyx loom Sep 5, 2020, 10:34 PM

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fingerguns

distant sun Sep 5, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Smh bm

onyx loom Sep 5, 2020, 10:34 PM

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clojure moon

remote goblet Sep 5, 2020, 10:34 PM

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I didn't say they would and I wasn't saying that being serious, I said it in a joking manner, which you clearly couldn't understand gaby. If someone genuinely asked for help I would give them an answer mmSitStareMocha

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now go fuck off somewhere else ASfacepalm

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don't take jokes too seriously

distant sun Sep 5, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Be polite Ori.

ocean quartz Sep 5, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Wouldn't happen in the language i made because it doesn't exist

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prisma wave Sep 5, 2020, 10:35 PM

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🙄

remote goblet Sep 5, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Honestly gaby, that's the most polite you're getting

prisma wave Sep 5, 2020, 10:35 PM

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your imaginary language is no match for elara

onyx loom Sep 5, 2020, 10:35 PM

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use them 1s and 0s instead

ocean quartz Sep 5, 2020, 10:35 PM

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I could never make a language, i'd probably end up making Kotlin

remote goblet Sep 5, 2020, 10:36 PM

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make kotlin again but in spanish

ocean quartz Sep 5, 2020, 10:36 PM

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disgustedjiro

remote goblet Sep 5, 2020, 10:36 PM

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impresiónlna("Kotlin cool")

prisma wave Sep 5, 2020, 10:36 PM

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el kotlino

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idk i don't speak spanish

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I could never make a language, i'd probably end up making Kotlin
@ocean quartz just think of everything kotlin does and either do the opposite or rename it

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works for me

ocean quartz Sep 5, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Fair

normal talon Sep 5, 2020, 10:38 PM

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lair

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pair

old wyvern Sep 5, 2020, 10:39 PM

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niltok

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Enforce Nullability

ocean quartz Sep 5, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Lmao, code will only run if it throws NPE

old wyvern Sep 5, 2020, 10:41 PM

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val a: String? = "a"
println(a ?: "its not null, sad")

prisma wave Sep 5, 2020, 10:41 PM

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there was something similar entered into the Repl competition I think

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It's a language without any valid syntax

old wyvern Sep 5, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Which one bm?

prisma wave Sep 5, 2020, 10:42 PM

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The only valid program is an empty file

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Can't remember the name

distant sun Sep 5, 2020, 10:42 PM

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o damn

prisma wave Sep 5, 2020, 10:42 PM

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But it was dumb

old wyvern Sep 5, 2020, 10:42 PM

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a lot were C and something in diff languages

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xD

ocean quartz Sep 5, 2020, 10:42 PM

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A language that can only be written in one line

prisma wave Sep 5, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Yea lol

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Oh god

old wyvern Sep 5, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Spanish C

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Turkish C

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Russian C

prisma wave Sep 5, 2020, 10:42 PM

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As soon as you add \n the program segfaults and causes a bluescreen

old wyvern Sep 5, 2020, 10:42 PM

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cyka blyat "blin"

prisma wave Sep 5, 2020, 10:42 PM

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lmao

distant sun Sep 5, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Imagine having to add accents to words

prisma wave Sep 5, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Imaginè

ocean quartz Sep 5, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Blyatlin

distant sun Sep 5, 2020, 10:43 PM

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privat final Ață nume = "Gaby";

old wyvern Sep 5, 2020, 10:43 PM

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общественный vodka пить() {
}```

distant sun Sep 5, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Lol

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"Stop abusing vodka"

ocean quartz Sep 5, 2020, 10:44 PM

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privado final Corda nome = "Matt"; lmao

old wyvern Sep 5, 2020, 10:44 PM

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😂

distant sun Sep 5, 2020, 10:44 PM

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:))

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or Sfoară, not sure

old wyvern Sep 5, 2020, 10:44 PM

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vozvratnyy blok

distant sun Sep 5, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Șir tf

ocean quartz Sep 5, 2020, 10:46 PM

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公衆 ストリング method() {
  返す "Hello";
}

distant sun Sep 5, 2020, 10:46 PM

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god no

ocean quartz Sep 5, 2020, 10:46 PM

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God yes

distant sun Sep 5, 2020, 10:46 PM

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!(god yes)

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TrChat's comments are written in some asian language (I think it's Chinese) and it's HORRIBLE to deal with smh

frail glade Sep 5, 2020, 10:47 PM

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TrChat does some shady stuff if that's the plugin I'm thinking of.

distant sun Sep 5, 2020, 10:47 PM

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=pl trchat

compact perchBOT Sep 5, 2020, 10:47 PM

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TrChat | 1.8-1.15

v1.7 R2 by Arasple
The all in one chat plugin | JSON Formats / Chat Filter / Bungee

Downloads:

2,039

Likes:

0

Reviews:

4

frail glade Sep 5, 2020, 10:47 PM

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It also ignores being cancelled and messes up with a bunch of stuff.

distant sun Sep 5, 2020, 10:47 PM

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dis

ocean quartz Sep 5, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Lmao this works

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distant sun Sep 5, 2020, 10:48 PM

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ok ..

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I see you are using rainbow brackets 🙃

old wyvern Sep 5, 2020, 10:48 PM

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https://repl.it/talk/challenge/Egua-Language-A-programming-language-in-portuguese/51787

repl.it

Egua Language - A programming language in portuguese

Egua Language - A general-purpose programming language in portuguese To be part of the technology world you need to know how to speak english, but in Brazil this isn't a easy job to do, as a research shows that only 5% of our population has english fluency. In this way, we've ...

prisma wave Sep 5, 2020, 10:48 PM

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if (!(!(!(!(!(!(!(!(!(!(!test!!)!!)!!)!!)!!)!!)!!)!!)!!)!!) return```

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:)

old wyvern Sep 5, 2020, 10:48 PM

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classe ClasseFilho herda ClassePai

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🙃

ocean quartz Sep 5, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Lmao the language name means Mare

distant sun Sep 5, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Mare?

ocean quartz Sep 5, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Female horse

distant sun Sep 5, 2020, 10:49 PM

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ah

old wyvern Sep 5, 2020, 10:49 PM

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lol

prisma wave Sep 5, 2020, 10:49 PM

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odd choice of name

distant sun Sep 5, 2020, 10:49 PM

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ok ..

prisma wave Sep 5, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Should've named it after an obscure moon

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All good languages are named after obscure moons

old wyvern Sep 5, 2020, 10:49 PM

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^

frail glade Sep 5, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Ya that plugin messes with DSRV

distant sun Sep 5, 2020, 10:50 PM

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I dont like the lib it uses

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it does some weird stuff

ocean quartz Sep 5, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Did you know spigot adds warnings?

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https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/⭐-feudal-⭐-kingdoms-gui-market-wars-professions-attributes.22873/

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distant sun Sep 5, 2020, 10:51 PM

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damn

prisma wave Sep 5, 2020, 10:51 PM

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bruh

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So they know it exists and yet let the plugin stay?

ocean quartz Sep 5, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Oh there is worse

old wyvern Sep 5, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Where is that from?

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yoo

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really

ocean quartz Sep 5, 2020, 10:53 PM

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prisma wave Sep 5, 2020, 10:54 PM

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so downloading stuff is NOT ALLOWED but literally having a force op is fine?

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wtf

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pdm discrimination

distant sun Sep 5, 2020, 10:59 PM

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damn, spigot also has useful stuff?

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So they know it exists and yet let the plugin stay?
@prisma wave fr, why not remove all versions that have a force op

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though, what happened? Did the author said "time to remove the FORCE OP"? :))

prisma wave Sep 5, 2020, 11:02 PM

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"oh hey guys you know I severely violated the rules? Yeah I'm not any more so if you can just let me go free without any repercussions that would be great"

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It's pretty ridiculous

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Especially considering it's literally a premium plugin

distant sun Sep 5, 2020, 11:02 PM

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^

ocean quartz Sep 5, 2020, 11:04 PM

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There was a dude who leaked ezrankspro on spigot, it was removed but he didn't get banned lmao

old wyvern Sep 5, 2020, 11:04 PM

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lol

static zealot Sep 5, 2020, 11:04 PM

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wait he didn't

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?

distant sun Sep 5, 2020, 11:04 PM

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fair enough

prisma wave Sep 5, 2020, 11:05 PM

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I don't understand that at all

ocean quartz Sep 5, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Don't think so Blitz

prisma wave Sep 5, 2020, 11:05 PM

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the rules are so petty but they won't even enforce serious infractions

ocean quartz Sep 5, 2020, 11:05 PM

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He posted other resources

distant sun Sep 5, 2020, 11:06 PM

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tbh id rather wait 2 weeks for a resource to be approved than have the website filled with shit

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pretty sure you can check at least 10 resources in 20 minutes since most of them are basic stuff

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and by check i mean use a decompiler to check the code and such

static zealot Sep 5, 2020, 11:07 PM

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well not if they are messy I guess.

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like my resources xD

prisma wave Sep 5, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Just develop a machine learning algorithm that can instantly tell if a plugin is evil or not

old wyvern Sep 5, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Wasnt someone here staff on spigot or something?

prisma wave Sep 5, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Simple

distant sun Sep 5, 2020, 11:09 PM

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I would apply for staff but I know I wont get accepted since Im not active on the website

old wyvern Sep 5, 2020, 11:09 PM

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ah welp

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I mean not like theres much to do on there

distant sun Sep 5, 2020, 11:09 PM

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Wasnt someone here staff on spigot or something?
@old wyvern Gian

old wyvern Sep 5, 2020, 11:09 PM

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Ah

distant sun Sep 5, 2020, 11:10 PM

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I mean not like theres much to do on there
@old wyvern check resources

old wyvern Sep 5, 2020, 11:16 PM

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eh

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Almost everything is the same thing

remote goblet Sep 5, 2020, 11:37 PM

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okay mmSitStareMocha

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discord jda nerds

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am i being stupid

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event.guild.members.forEach { member -> print(member.user.asTag) }

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that's mostly correct right

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yes

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but it's literally only printing the bot and the command executor

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as if it like

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can't find anyone else

ocean quartz Sep 5, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Do you have the guild members intent turned on? On the bot dashboard and on the jda

remote goblet Sep 5, 2020, 11:50 PM

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mmSitStareMocha maybe

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ocean quartz Sep 5, 2020, 11:51 PM

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And is it in the dashboard as well?

remote goblet Sep 5, 2020, 11:51 PM

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whattf

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where

ocean quartz Sep 5, 2020, 11:52 PM

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https://discord.com/developers/

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Turn this on

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remote goblet Sep 5, 2020, 11:53 PM

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already on

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well fuck

ocean quartz Sep 5, 2020, 11:53 PM

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Oh, idk then xD

distant sun Sep 6, 2020, 12:00 AM

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So I want to create some kind of "CouponBuilder" for this POST request https://docs.tebex.io/plugin/endpoints/coupons, is there any way to display a warning when a required value is missing? Something similar to the warning displayed when a null value is passed to something annotated with @NotNull

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 12:20 AM

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I don't think so

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Not at "compile" time anyway

distant sun Sep 6, 2020, 12:23 AM

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I can just add a check on build() for each required method, just wanted to know if I can display some kind of warnings to the end user when they create the coupon

distant sun Sep 6, 2020, 12:42 AM

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is this ^\d{4}-[01]\d-[0-3]\d$ pattern ok to check a date string with the format yyyy-mm-dd?

astral quiver Sep 6, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Hey folks

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What about Elara fingerguns

distant sun Sep 6, 2020, 1:29 AM

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say hello to my little monster 🤣 https://paste.helpch.at/itimepinod.java

ocean quartz Sep 6, 2020, 1:39 AM

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dios

obtuse gale Sep 6, 2020, 5:19 AM

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If ive got a string like this,
Test string test how would I remove the spaces before and after the first and last word?

distant sun Sep 6, 2020, 5:20 AM

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trim

obtuse gale Sep 6, 2020, 5:24 AM

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welp

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time to go through and replace like 60 uses of .complete with .queue

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fun MessageChannel.embed(title: String, desc: String, footer: String = ""): CompletableFuture<Message> {
    val eb = EmbedBuilder()
    eb.setTitle(title)
    eb.setDescription(desc)
    eb.setFooter(footer)
    eb.setColor(Color.BLUE)
    val future = CompletableFuture<Message>()
    this.sendMessage(eb.build()).queue{
        future.complete(it)
    }
    return future
}
``` Is this like the basic usage of completable futures?

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Also what should I use to run stuff after? Like .thenApply or .thenAcceot ir?

quiet depot Sep 6, 2020, 5:28 AM

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erm no

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don’t do that

obtuse gale Sep 6, 2020, 5:29 AM

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what do i do then lol

quiet depot Sep 6, 2020, 5:29 AM

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queue returns a rest action right?

obtuse gale Sep 6, 2020, 5:29 AM

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idk how this works

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yeah

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o

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should i just return that

quiet depot Sep 6, 2020, 5:29 AM

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just return what queue returns

obtuse gale Sep 6, 2020, 5:29 AM

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alright

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yeah that makes sense lol

quiet depot Sep 6, 2020, 5:29 AM

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rest actions & completable futures are basically same thing

obtuse gale Sep 6, 2020, 5:31 AM

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off this is gonna make quite a thicc arrow

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f

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hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 5:47 AM

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Aj, smh

obtuse gale Sep 6, 2020, 5:48 AM

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I cant do anything about it cryingblob

quiet depot Sep 6, 2020, 5:51 AM

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I mean you can

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just don’t be a 4head

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ez

obtuse gale Sep 6, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Got 12 more to go

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bruh I have absolutely 0 memory of writing this code

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hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 7:49 AM

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:bruh what: https://paste.helpch.at/dinomonake.md

obtuse gale Sep 6, 2020, 7:52 AM

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The fuck

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nice

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spring good :))

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 7:54 AM

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Exactly

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Created a new database worked fine, seems to just shit itself randomly

regal gale Sep 6, 2020, 7:55 AM

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Why did you even make a table name with dot anyway

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 7:56 AM

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the first is the database name

dusky drum Sep 6, 2020, 7:57 AM

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you sure you do stuff like that

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you create database

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then select it

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then make table

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 7:58 AM

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More steps, ew

dusky drum Sep 6, 2020, 7:58 AM

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but it works

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and if doing it why use `?

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just do

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CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS supporter_codes.creators :??

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 7:59 AM

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It doesn't matter lol, it's the exact same

dusky drum Sep 6, 2020, 7:59 AM

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how doesnt it work then?

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and i belive you gotta add .dbo.

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so dbname.dbo.table

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 8:00 AM

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Nah

regal gale Sep 6, 2020, 8:05 AM

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What if you drop the first table then create `supporter_codes`.`creators` ?

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 8:11 AM

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kotlin would be so much better for statements :((

empty flint Sep 6, 2020, 9:04 AM

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I have a quick question regarding kotlin coding best practises

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I've read that it's better to define top-level functions instead of packaging them in a top-level object to declare a namespace for them. But I don't quite get why that is. What's the reason for the de-coupling of functions from classes and objects and why does it matter?

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This was one of the sources on this topic: https://discuss.kotlinlang.org/t/best-practices-for-top-level-declarations/2198/4

Kotlin Discussions

Best practices for top-level declarations

FWIW I love the way it works in Java. All utility methods may have multiple versions, even the methods in Math have a buddy in StrictMath (which nobody uses, but that’s a different story). I myself use three different versions of my own pow(long, long), namely checked (throwi...

lunar cypress Sep 6, 2020, 9:27 AM

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because objects shouldn't be used as namespaces

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when functions have no connection to a class why would you put them in one

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 9:38 AM

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^

empty flint Sep 6, 2020, 9:39 AM

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Well most of my top-level functions could be part of a class, or could be used as general lib methods. It's not always clear cut...

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 9:40 AM

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but why should they be part of a class?

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Unless they are part of an object, there's no reason to have them in a class

empty flint Sep 6, 2020, 9:41 AM

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Are objects regarded the same as classes in that regard?

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 9:41 AM

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yes

empty flint Sep 6, 2020, 9:41 AM

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Why?

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 9:41 AM

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Because they are still effectively classes

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You're binding the function to some sort of state for no reason

empty flint Sep 6, 2020, 9:42 AM

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Well the reason would be to have a common namespace. Be that Util or Utils or Maths or something else

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 9:42 AM

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a common namespace would be a package

empty flint Sep 6, 2020, 9:43 AM

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Hm yeah that makes sense actually...

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 9:44 AM

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look at functional languages: there's no such thing as a class

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Clojure has namespaces, not sure about languages like Haskell

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But if something doesn't need to be part of a class there's no reason to even consider classes

empty flint Sep 6, 2020, 9:45 AM

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So because it's unnecessary one shouldn't do it. I mean it makes sense, I just wanted to get an insight into why it is unnecessary

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 9:49 AM

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Indeed

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It doesn't provide anymore insight into what the function does (or it shouldn't)

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 9:57 AM

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@hot hull is that MySQL?

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just curious since all SQL seems to be different lol

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 9:58 AM

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yessir

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 9:58 AM

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just MySQL or the far superior MariaDB?

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 10:00 AM

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Maria

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 10:00 AM

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noice

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I used to use MariaDB, but switched to PostgreSQL after hearing it scales better, and tbh, I find it to be better than MySQL not just because of how well it scales

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PostgreSQL conforms much more strictly to the SQL standard than MySQL does, meaning thingys make more sense

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 10:03 AM

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I've honestly no idea how any of it works, I just know ish what to do to store data fingerguns

obtuse gale Sep 6, 2020, 10:03 AM

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imagine knowing how shit works

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 10:03 AM

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I rarelly work with it which is :((

hot heron Sep 6, 2020, 10:04 AM

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@prisma wave So not knowing oop wouldn't matter for clojure?

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 10:04 AM

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it might be worth learning SQL just so you can debug better and figure out how thingys go wrong

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@hot heron probably not, though knowing OOP is really handy, and it's not a hard thing to pick up either

hot heron Sep 6, 2020, 10:05 AM

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I just ask cause someone I know is lead dev at their work and they use clojure but they haven't learned oop

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 10:05 AM

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in OOP, there are four key principles: Abstraction, Encapsulation, Inheritance and Polymorphism

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literally those four are all you ever need to know

hot heron Sep 6, 2020, 10:06 AM

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I was surprised to hear they became lead dev without oop knowledge

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But I guess if it's not useful for the work then it wouldn't change anything

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 10:08 AM

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@hot heron clojure has very few object oriented concepts

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So yeah

obtuse gale Sep 6, 2020, 10:08 AM

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those are some big words

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 10:08 AM

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It's effectively unnecessary

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functional programming is a completely different paradigm

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 10:09 AM

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abstraction is easy, it's just extracting things that are commonly shared between thingys and putting them in another place
encapsulation is just hiding thingys inside of your thingy to deny access from the outside (I think)
inheritance is where one thingy has children and those children get attributes from their parent
polymorphism is basically method overloading, where you have multiple methods with the same name that take different thingys, return different thingys, and so do different thingys (afaik)

hot heron Sep 6, 2020, 10:09 AM

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yeah I've never touched it

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 10:09 AM

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functional programming is a completely different paradigm
that is true

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 10:09 AM

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The problem with FP imo is that it's hugely different to OOP

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Which makes it a lot more difficult to learn

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 10:10 AM

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I had to look up what encapsulation and polymorphism were because I forgot lol

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 10:10 AM

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And also, there's no functional languages I know of which isn't ugly and / or difficult to learn

hot heron Sep 6, 2020, 10:11 AM

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So what are the benefits of FP?

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 10:11 AM

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the latter includes Elara

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 10:11 AM

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Clojure is a lisp which is an instant turn off for many people, Haskell is pure functional so it's full of complicated CS concepts

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@hot heron consistency and arguably lower complexity. Everything is immutable so you don't have to worry about your data randomly changing, there's no complicated states to try and decipher

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You don't have to jump through OOP hoops, you can just write what you want to do

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Object oriented code tends to be much more overengineered too

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I saw some video where a guy took about 4 classes of object oriented code and turned it into about 3 short functions

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All because OOP encourages heavy use of abstraction

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 10:13 AM

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OOP is still a really, really useful thingy to learn though

hot heron Sep 6, 2020, 10:14 AM

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Yeah everything has its ups and downs

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 10:14 AM

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also I'm only 100xp away from overtaking frosty so thanks for the paragraph opportunity

hot heron Sep 6, 2020, 10:14 AM

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hahaha

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Explain away 😛

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 10:14 AM

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Anyway to conclude elara is the best functional language

dusky drum Sep 6, 2020, 10:14 AM

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howly

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yes

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go destroy the forsty

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frosty*

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 10:15 AM

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It's not pure FP so it's easy to learn, and doesn't have any syntax gimmicks

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But it also has a cool type system

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60xp fingerguns

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 10:17 AM

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oof

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 10:17 AM

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oh no chat is dead now

obtuse gale Sep 6, 2020, 10:17 AM

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I need help

compact perchBOT Sep 6, 2020, 10:17 AM

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There is no time to wait! Ask your question @obtuse gale!

obtuse gale Sep 6, 2020, 10:17 AM

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Could not initialize class org.codehaus.groovy.classgen.Verifier pls help

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gradle give error

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me sad :((

hot heron Sep 6, 2020, 10:18 AM

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What context is functional programming preferred?

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 10:18 AM

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wdym?

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@obtuse gale that's not much information but could be a JDK problem

hot heron Sep 6, 2020, 10:18 AM

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Like each kind of programming has it's pros and cons depending on the situation

obtuse gale Sep 6, 2020, 10:18 AM

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im using openjdk 14

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this project works fine on my main pc, but its being dodgy on my mac

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 10:19 AM

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You need 6.5.1 for jdk 14

obtuse gale Sep 6, 2020, 10:19 AM

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ah

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thatd be it

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 10:20 AM

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@hot heron yeah, I guess trying to use FP for say a plugin is a bad idea since spigot is based around object oriented structure. If you're starting from scratch it doesn't make much difference.

As far as I know clojure is widely used in backend design since it scales well with concurrency. Haskell is more of an academic language so I don't really know what you'd use it for

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Kotlin can be functional too though, and you can mix the two

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I usually use mostly object oriented design in plugins while taking advantage of Kotlin's functional features too

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Best of both worlds

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ffs 10xp to go

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Barry is really screwing me over here so I'm just gonna write this in hope that he'll give me enough XP thanks

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YES

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📎 XP_Leaderboard

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📎 20200906_112321.jpg

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At last

obtuse gale Sep 6, 2020, 10:23 AM

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oh

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 10:23 AM

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lol

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Discord strikes again

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 10:24 AM

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oof

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wow I'm still 19th

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how is cube still 1st even though I barely see him chat that often

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unless he's always on when I'm asleep lol

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@pallid gale how has one maintained this black magic

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 10:29 AM

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He whomst controls the database can have infinite XP

pallid gale Sep 6, 2020, 10:29 AM

#

o

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 10:39 AM

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He whomst controls the database can have infinite XP
lol

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seems legit

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 10:42 AM

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smh BM

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 10:49 AM

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😏

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It was inevitable

dusky drum Sep 6, 2020, 10:49 AM

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dont

onyx loom Sep 6, 2020, 10:57 AM

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i am also inevitable @hot hull

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👀

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 10:59 AM

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And I am about to loose my marbles

onyx loom Sep 6, 2020, 10:59 AM

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ok

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 11:00 AM

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I legit get it so close to working, everything works, but cause it's java boom random ass NPE

obtuse gale Sep 6, 2020, 11:00 AM

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java bad

onyx loom Sep 6, 2020, 11:02 AM

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why java

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cmon frostypoopy

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 11:03 AM

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I was forced

onyx loom Sep 6, 2020, 11:05 AM

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these scummy java users 🤮

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ok but like have u shown code and whatnot

obtuse gale Sep 6, 2020, 11:05 AM

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Is it worth deleting things from databases?

onyx loom Sep 6, 2020, 11:05 AM

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so we can help u 😭

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 11:05 AM

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Only help I need is mental help

onyx loom Sep 6, 2020, 11:06 AM

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i feel u 😭

obtuse gale Sep 6, 2020, 11:07 AM

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Should I remove shit from my db once im done with it

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 11:07 AM

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Well what are you doing?

obtuse gale Sep 6, 2020, 11:08 AM

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Support ticket details, the details are moreso used for functionality, not logging purposes, but I cant decide if i should keep them once the tickets closed

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 11:08 AM

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Probably keep them, and give the users the ability to view closed tickets

obtuse gale Sep 6, 2020, 11:09 AM

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hm alright, atm it doesnt even store the content of the ticket

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 11:09 AM

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Or ya know just make everything customisable fingerguns

obtuse gale Sep 6, 2020, 11:10 AM

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How would one store like a massive ass text chat log to a db as well?

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 11:10 AM

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as JSON or TEXT type I guess

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 11:10 AM

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JSON probs cleaner I guess?

obtuse gale Sep 6, 2020, 11:10 AM

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like a json file?

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Then have it store the path?

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 11:10 AM

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No

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JSON format

obtuse gale Sep 6, 2020, 11:11 AM

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Can I just chuck it in the database? Ive never put like a massive long bit of data in a db before

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 11:11 AM

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some sql variants suppourt JSON as a datatype itself

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so yes

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https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/8.0/en/json.html

obtuse gale Sep 6, 2020, 11:12 AM

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mysql?

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ooh

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alright

#

also itd be nice if spring stopped telling me it cant find something with ID 3 when I never asked it to find something wit ID 3

remote goblet Sep 6, 2020, 11:50 AM

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you disappoint me frosty angry_fingerguns

📎 unknown.png

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 11:51 AM

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ok but where is the .clj / .el / .hs / .go

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 11:51 AM

#

km

#

Does stacking items make items lose the PersistantDataContainer data by any chance?

#

@prisma wave

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 11:53 AM

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No idea

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Never used them

#

But maybe?

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 11:53 AM

#

hmm

#

I remember that happening once

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Dammit

#

rip

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 11:53 AM

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the well designed server strikes again

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 11:53 AM

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😂

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 11:55 AM

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@remote goblet angry_fingerguns

onyx loom Sep 6, 2020, 11:55 AM

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does java make u very angry frosty? angry_fingerguns

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 11:56 AM

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very angery

remote goblet Sep 6, 2020, 12:00 PM

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angry_fingerguns

empty flint Sep 6, 2020, 12:04 PM

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Can you guys recommend a good gradle release plugin for github?

lunar cypress Sep 6, 2020, 12:05 PM

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what is a gradle release plugin

empty flint Sep 6, 2020, 12:06 PM

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hm maybe I dove too deep

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so I want to push a kotlin lib to github

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and import it using gradle in my other projects

lunar cypress Sep 6, 2020, 12:07 PM

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You want to publish it?

empty flint Sep 6, 2020, 12:07 PM

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I guess

lunar cypress Sep 6, 2020, 12:07 PM

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Look at bintray then

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Or jitpack if you're lazy

empty flint Sep 6, 2020, 12:10 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

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what's this then?

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 12:10 PM

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that's for distributing binaries

#

I think packages can support maven repostories but you need to authenticate

quiet depot Sep 6, 2020, 12:11 PM

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packages does indeed support maven repos

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but the auth requirement is a deal breaker

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 12:11 PM

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Very dumb

empty flint Sep 6, 2020, 12:11 PM

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I am a bit too overwhelmed by all this

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https://blog.gradle.org/introducing-source-dependencies

Introducing source dependencies

This post introduces a new Gradle dependency management feature called “source dependencies”.

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this is what I found

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 12:11 PM

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?

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just publish to a maven repo

empty flint Sep 6, 2020, 12:12 PM

#

on how to use github source repo in another project

#

just publish to a maven repo
@prisma wave sure but how? which repo?

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 12:12 PM

#

Bintray, maven central, personal one, jitpack

quiet depot Sep 6, 2020, 12:12 PM

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pls not the last

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for your own sake

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 12:12 PM

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Yeah jitpack kinda sucks

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If you don't want hassle you're welcome to use mine

empty flint Sep 6, 2020, 12:13 PM

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https://dzone.com/articles/publish-your-artifacts-to-maven-central

dzone.com

How to Publish Your Artifacts to Maven Central - DZone DevOps

If you're wondering how to publish your artifacts to Maven central, then this step-by-step guide from Mohammad Nadeem is for you.

quiet depot Sep 6, 2020, 12:13 PM

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central probably isn't what you're looking for

empty flint Sep 6, 2020, 12:13 PM

#

what am I looking for and why not central? ^^

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 12:13 PM

#

Yeah central is a lot of hassle

#

I'd only publish something that was going to be very widely used to central

empty flint Sep 6, 2020, 12:14 PM

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Do I need to create an artifact if I want to publish to bintray?

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 12:15 PM

#

uh

regal gale Sep 6, 2020, 12:15 PM

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Simple, but obvious question here 👀

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 12:15 PM

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That's kind of ambiguous

regal gale Sep 6, 2020, 12:15 PM

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Should I make a new plugin with Java or Kotlin

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 12:15 PM

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Artifact usually refers to something that gets published

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@regal gale personal preference?

regal gale Sep 6, 2020, 12:15 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 12:16 PM

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If you want to use Java use java, if you want to use kotlin use Kotlin

#

You can also make plugins in Clojure which I would highly recommend

regal gale Sep 6, 2020, 12:16 PM

#

ew

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 12:16 PM

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🙄

#

It's still less verbose than Java lol

regal gale Sep 6, 2020, 12:17 PM

#

Anyway, I've had no idea why kt evaluation in this 1.4.0 is giving me errors on Heroku (script engine not exist)

#

But it looks really fine on ide

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 12:17 PM

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That's not much to go on

#

Caching perhaps?

regal gale Sep 6, 2020, 12:18 PM

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It also works fine on 1.3.72 before

onyx loom Sep 6, 2020, 12:24 PM

#

You can also make plugins in Clojure which I would highly recommend
@prisma wave 🤡

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 12:30 PM

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🙄

#

https://www.github.com/knightzmc/jvm-plugins/tree/master/clojure-plugin%2Fsrc%2Fclojure%2Fclojure_plugin%2Fplugin.clj

GitHub

knightzmc/jvm-plugins

A simple plugin in each main JVM language. Contribute to knightzmc/jvm-plugins development by creating an account on GitHub.

#

Just look at that

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Hot

onyx loom Sep 6, 2020, 12:31 PM

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🤡

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 12:34 PM

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😕

dusky drum Sep 6, 2020, 12:36 PM

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howly wtf

#

whats that syntax

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 12:37 PM

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clojure

dusky drum Sep 6, 2020, 12:37 PM

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eww

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 12:39 PM

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everyone's a critic

#

It's just backwards

#

println("Hello") becomes (println "Hello")

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simple

quiet depot Sep 6, 2020, 12:41 PM

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fun fact lisp dialects are diabolically ugly

#

clojure continues the tradition well

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 12:41 PM

#

fun fact no

#

no AbstractFactoryFactory in clojure

#

Rich Hickey wins again

quiet depot Sep 6, 2020, 12:42 PM

#

excuse me

#

where's a jython plugin

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 12:44 PM

#

jython isn't a standalone language so it doesn't count

quiet depot Sep 6, 2020, 12:44 PM

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then remove your kotlin plugin lol

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 12:45 PM

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kotlin is a standalone language?

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Lol

#

What I mean is

quiet depot Sep 6, 2020, 12:45 PM

#

oh i misread

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 12:45 PM

#

Jython is just python

#

All the others are their own languages

quiet depot Sep 6, 2020, 12:45 PM

#

I thought you said it is a standalone language

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 12:45 PM

#

ah right

quiet depot Sep 6, 2020, 12:45 PM

#

jython is a python impl on the jvm, I don't see why that'd disqualify it

#

in that case it's the exact same as kotlin

#

the only difference is jython isn't official

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 12:46 PM

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welp

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 12:51 PM

#

but kotlin is a separate language, jython is just python

#

I'd argue it's therefore not a JVM language

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 12:51 PM

#

kotlin/JVM being jvm version of Kotlin is similar to Jython being JVM version of Python

#

Thats what pig meant (I think?)

empty flint Sep 6, 2020, 12:51 PM

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Cool, I got it working without publishing to maven

#

just pushed to github and imported and built using sourceControl

lunar cypress Sep 6, 2020, 12:53 PM

#

there is a difference between being a port and being a primary target

#

jython is a port, it does not embrace the jvm in any way

#

it has its own systems

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 12:55 PM

#

Wdym it does not embrace the jvm in any way?

#

Isnt Jython supposed to allow Java interop as well or something?

quiet depot Sep 6, 2020, 12:56 PM

#

when you make a jvm language, you're meant to follow the principles the jvm outlines

#

jython does not

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 12:56 PM

#

hmm

quiet depot Sep 6, 2020, 12:56 PM

#

I assume that's what he meant

#

not 100% sure

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 12:56 PM

#

What are the exact principles?

quiet depot Sep 6, 2020, 12:56 PM

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no clue

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 12:56 PM

#

ah welp

quiet depot Sep 6, 2020, 12:57 PM

#

ig "oop paradigm pls, no manual memory"

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 12:57 PM

#

Can you do:
(setExecutor (new ClojureCommand))
becomes
(setExecutor new ClojureCommand)

Or is new basically a method/function and requires ()

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 12:57 PM

#

new is a function

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 12:57 PM

#

python has oop as well right?

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 12:57 PM

#

yea

quiet depot Sep 6, 2020, 12:57 PM

#

python's impl of oop is widely criticized

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 12:58 PM

#

ah

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 1:00 PM

#

Python seems to be best with a procedural kinda style

#

In my experience anyway

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 1:01 PM

#

Rust kind of does everything in the best way

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 1:01 PM

#

Does it though

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 1:01 PM

#

Elara does tho fingerguns

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 1:01 PM

#

^

#

Rust has like 300 symbols

#

Annoying

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 1:02 PM

#

Yeah in my opinion it does except for when

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 1:02 PM

#

when?

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 1:02 PM

#

int8 int 16 int 32 int64 int128 int2^n

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 1:02 PM

#

when you use it with

#

i8 i16 i32

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 1:02 PM

#

xD

#

is there a long to replace int64?

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 1:03 PM

#

unsigned long long -> u128

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 1:03 PM

#

<'T: M<&UInt8>>

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 1:03 PM

#

ew

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 1:03 PM

#

not an exaggeration

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 1:03 PM

#

😂

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 1:06 PM

#

That syntax is just annoying

📎 Screenshot_20200906-140639_Google.jpg

#

Have you ever heard of Go

#

It's like Rust but not ugly

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 1:08 PM

#

Is it performance

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 1:11 PM

#

Pretty fast

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 1:11 PM

#

Does go have a spring alternative

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 1:11 PM

#

Probably

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 1:12 PM

#

https://github.com/google/wire

GitHub

google/wire

Compile-time Dependency Injection for Go. Contribute to google/wire development by creating an account on GitHub.

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 1:18 PM

#

MVC

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 1:19 PM

#

https://github.com/gernest/utron

GitHub

gernest/utron

A lightweight MVC framework for Go(Golang). Contribute to gernest/utron development by creating an account on GitHub.

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 1:26 PM

#

Rocket.rs

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 1:26 PM

#

https://revel.github.io/

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 1:29 PM

#

Using rust in 2020

#

How embarrassing

onyx loom Sep 6, 2020, 1:41 PM

#

💀

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 2:21 PM

#

Does anyone else make a plugin to just think shit through, then remake it from scratch properly so everything makes sense, or is that just me?

ocean quartz Sep 6, 2020, 2:45 PM

#

I normally think of an idea make it happen then rewrite it to be good yeah

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 3:12 PM

#

Gather requirements -> Technical design -> Implementation -> Testing -> Release

#

Or as the Agiler's like to go Program -> Test -> Program -> Test

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 3:13 PM

#

Ah yes the good old

Make the plugin

Test the plugin

Make it nice

Fix the broken shit

???

Profit

dusky drum Sep 6, 2020, 3:15 PM

#

profit = 0.

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 3:19 PM

#

@prisma wave hey any ideas on how we should handle statistics?

#

(MineKraft)

#

because according to the standard, it needs to be sent as an array of varints

#

the values in that array being category ID, statistic ID and then the value

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:23 PM

#

uh

#

for now I would just have a Table<Int, Int, Value> in whatever the class is for player data

#

we can worry about api design later

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 3:23 PM

#

okay

#

wait is Table built-in to Kotlin?

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:23 PM

#

no

#

it's from Guava

#

but I think I've bundled that

#

maybe

#

if not add it

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 3:24 PM

#

yeah it's already bundled

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:24 PM

#

thought so

#

cool

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 3:25 PM

#

how do I get the first row value in a table?

#

or do I want to send them all

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:25 PM

#

i presume you send them all

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 3:25 PM

#

I got no idea how this works lol

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:25 PM

#

but maybe not

#

lemme look at the spec

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 3:25 PM

#

alright

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:26 PM

#

yeah I presume you send all of them

#

with multiple arrays

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 3:26 PM

#

how do I send them all?

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:26 PM

#

just call writeArray multiple times?

#

or whatever it is

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 3:27 PM

#

there is no writeArray lol

#

I was more asking how do I access the data from the table

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:27 PM

#

oh

#

there might be entries/entrySet?

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 3:28 PM

#

okay

#

also should I have been using writeVarInt rather than writeInt to write data where the type on the spec is VarInt?

#

because if so I gotta go and change it all lol

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:29 PM

#

yes

#

varints are not ints

#

well they are

#

but they're encoded in a different way

#

presumably it's more efficient

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 3:31 PM

#

ah okay

#

what do I do about Unsigned Byte types?

#

can I just use writeByte?

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:35 PM

#

I believe so

#

as long as they're effectively unsigned it should be fine

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 3:35 PM

#

also, the Position data type can just be sent with writeLong right?

#

since it's just a long

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:36 PM

#

probably not

#

well

#

yes

#

but you have to pack x y and z into the single long

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 3:36 PM

#

I used the algorithm on there

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 3:36 PM

#

Can't netty bytebuf do writeUnsignedByte

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:37 PM

#

possibly

#

doesn't look like it

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 3:37 PM

#

yeah I tried writing writeUnsignedByte and it doesn't exist

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:37 PM

#

there's always the UByte type in kotlin but it's experimental

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 3:37 PM

#

yeah I guess

#

how do unsigned types even work in Kotlin?

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:38 PM

#

mostly compile time assertions I think

#

yeah they're inline classes

#

so they compile to Byte

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 3:38 PM

#

Let me open one of my ancient projects

#

Nvm I didn't write any unsigned data. But theres readUnsignedByte

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 3:39 PM

#

yeah

#

I wonder how readUnsignedByte works in Java

#

since Java doesn't have unsigned types

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:40 PM

#

just returns a byte

#

except it will always be positive

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 3:40 PM

#

its like data & 0xFF

#

or something

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 3:40 PM

#

okay

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:41 PM

#

kotlin barely has unsigned types

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 3:41 PM

#

Rust 🙂

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:41 PM

#

🙄

onyx loom Sep 6, 2020, 3:41 PM

#

disgusting

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 3:41 PM

#

😄

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:41 PM

#

clojuremoon

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 3:41 PM

#

proper unsigned byte would be kinda out of the byte range of Java

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:41 PM

#

yea

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 3:42 PM

#

Animated emoji doesn't exist

#

Animated emoji: 🌚

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:42 PM

#

lmao

onyx loom Sep 6, 2020, 3:42 PM

#

animated emojis do exist if u have nitro 😉

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 3:42 PM

#

self bot?

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:42 PM

#

he's still going

#

lol

#

or not

#

welp

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 3:42 PM

#

#BanNiallSelfBotter

onyx loom Sep 6, 2020, 3:42 PM

#

😂

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 3:42 PM

#

😂

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:42 PM

#

@compact perch

#

deal with him

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 3:42 PM

#

I need a self bot that tracks every emoji

#

I write

#

And then proceed to change it

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:43 PM

#

get that guy to make it for $1.5

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 3:43 PM

#

Quick question, so far I was storing a VARCHAR(36) as it was a UUID of another user (which the main user (user X) follows - This being user Y), however I need to make it nullable, but since a UUID can't be null, I'd have to keep converting from a string, should I switch it up so instead of UUIDs I use numbered IDs, (each being corresponded to a Y user) and then just identify them with that?

Let me know if I make any sense fingerguns

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:43 PM

#

doesn't make any sense

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 3:43 PM

#

Im not reading that paragraph

#

k tnx bye

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:44 PM

#

is the uuid the primary key?

#

if not why can't it be nullable

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 3:44 PM

#

the Y UUID no

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:44 PM

#

why not

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 3:44 PM

#

Why not what?

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:44 PM

#

oh

#

so basically

#

why can't it be nullable

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 3:44 PM

#

If I store a UUID type NPE's, cause java bad

#

Short explanation fingerguns

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:45 PM

#

| UserId | FollowingId (Nullable VarChar) |

#

ez

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 3:45 PM

#

Yea but I have to store it within data as a string and then keep converting to a uuid

#

Since a UUID can't be null

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 3:45 PM

#

Yeah use a id coloumn

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 3:45 PM

#

Which get's tedious

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 3:45 PM

#

No one wanna use a UUID as PK

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:46 PM

#

true

#

now seems like a good time to suggest Hibernate

#

I am a man of standards therefore this will be written in Java
@heady birch

Rust kind of does everything in the best way
@heady birch

the double standards of rust users, the media doesn't want you to see this

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 3:47 PM

#

😮

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:48 PM

#

exposed

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 3:49 PM

#

ngl BM, Hibernate looks nice

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:49 PM

#

indeed

#

until you realise that it's 10mb

#

:)

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 3:50 PM

#

Worth it probably

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:50 PM

#

pdm + hibernate best software stack

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 3:50 PM

#

Otherwise PDM fingerguns

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 3:50 PM

#

Double standard frosty Spring is trash until he actually needs an ORM

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:51 PM

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what a work of art

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 3:52 PM

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https://extract.co/-hibernate-companies-in-ukraine

Hibernate companies in Ukraine

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Hibernate companies in Ukraine

ocean quartz Sep 6, 2020, 3:52 PM

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What a rollercoaster of emotions in the reactions

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:53 PM

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And what an informative website

📎 Screenshot_20200906-165332_Chrome.jpg

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 3:53 PM

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I havn't clicked the link yet

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:54 PM

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please visit

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 3:54 PM

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You boutta get hacked fingerguns

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BM, ngl this is such an overkill..

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:55 PM

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they said please

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no it's not

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Hibernate good

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 3:55 PM

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I'm storing 6 things, it's overkill..

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Suggest something better

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That's right there's nothing

#

Hibernate is literally the best option in any possible situation

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 3:59 PM

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OvErKiLl

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:00 PM

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🙄

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It's only overkill if it doesn't work

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:00 PM

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I'll try it out when I have to store more shit, deal?

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:01 PM

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😕

dusky drum Sep 6, 2020, 4:01 PM

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ok

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:01 PM

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that's not a good deal

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Very good deal

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:02 PM

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not really 😕

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Btw have you ever heard of Elara

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I would recommend

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 4:03 PM

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ActiveJDBC works if you want to still kind of want to control the models I guess

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Elaborate Yugi

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:03 PM

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or ORMLite

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 4:04 PM

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As in if you just want to write SQL requests but in a more idiomatic way in Java/Kotlin or whatever

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 4:04 PM

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📎 Screen_Shot_2020-09-06_at_17.04.00.png

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how do I make gui better

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 4:04 PM

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It doesnt serialize for you

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You handle what to set to what

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It just handles table creation, the actual insertion.. ect

ocean quartz Sep 6, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Or you can always

📎 439xxc.png

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 4:04 PM

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xD

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Or you could wait till if I ever continue working on PersistanceFramework

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 4:05 PM

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📎 40777.png

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Too soon 😔

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:08 PM

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smh Matt

gray elk Sep 6, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Please how can i make mobs follow a player

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 4:10 PM

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PathfinderGoal

gray elk Sep 6, 2020, 4:11 PM

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But how can i import nms by maven

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i use maven

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:11 PM

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build tools

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 4:11 PM

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Run buildtools and specify the non "api" repo

ocean quartz Sep 6, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Run build tools and remove the api from the repository
Or use paper (exclusively paper)

gray elk Sep 6, 2020, 4:12 PM

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In intellij ?

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 4:12 PM

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org.spigotmc:spigot:1.16.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT

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https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/buildtools/#1-16-2

BuildTools | SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

The home of Spigot a high performance, no lag customized CraftBukkit Minecraft server API, and BungeeCord, the cloud server proxy.

gray elk Sep 6, 2020, 4:13 PM

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i have it but intellij dont let me include external classes except by maven

lunar cypress Sep 6, 2020, 4:13 PM

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And what is the problem

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You run BuildTools

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You include it via maven

gray elk Sep 6, 2020, 4:14 PM

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how ?

lunar cypress Sep 6, 2020, 4:14 PM

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What step are you struggling with

ocean quartz Sep 6, 2020, 4:14 PM

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You just run build tools and on your maven remove the api from spigot that's all

gray elk Sep 6, 2020, 4:16 PM

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Now im in pom.xml

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maven

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:16 PM

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project.clj >

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:)

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:17 PM

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BM

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shut

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:17 PM

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I'm not wrong

ocean quartz Sep 6, 2020, 4:19 PM

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Is this lib something for android only?
Sounds like a pretty cool way to handle databases

📎 unknown.png

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:19 PM

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Some indian dude explaining it I'm guessing fingerguns

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 4:19 PM

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Literally hibernate

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:20 PM

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literally not

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Worse

ocean quartz Sep 6, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Not really Frosty, just a coroutines video

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:20 PM

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ah, it's got that vibe

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 4:21 PM

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Okay thats a mess

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:21 PM

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What's with all those a's sheesh

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 4:21 PM

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Variable

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Jpa query

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📎 Screen_Shot_2020-09-06_at_17.21.50.png

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Ecloud

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:22 PM

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That's spring not hibernate

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Misinformation

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 4:22 PM

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This point is true

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:23 PM

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Whatever weeb keeps setting those emojis smh

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 4:23 PM

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There banned!

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:23 PM

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Finally 😁

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Or not!

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 4:24 PM

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Anyway creating a nice table based web gui

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Semantic ui looks quite nice

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:24 PM

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Would it make sense if I have statements stored within objects, so I can just invoke Object#store() or some shit and it would store it?

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 4:25 PM

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no

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more like

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Storer.store

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then

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StoreQueryResolver

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StoreQueryProvider<T extends Storable>

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:25 PM

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🙃

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 4:25 PM

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MyCoolObjectQueryProvider<MyCoolObject>

store {
return "INSERT INTO e.g e.g
}

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CRUDable would be nice

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Looks like Kotlin syntax

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wow

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Pseudocode

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Would get messy imo Niall

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Is it a public plugin?

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:26 PM

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sure

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:26 PM

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No Niall

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Is it limited to download size

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I see absolutely no reason not to use Spring boot

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:26 PM

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limited to 500kb, otherwise someone gonna be mad fingerguns

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Oh okay

foggy pond Sep 6, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Generally a GitHub wiki > spigot wiki right

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I had horrible experiences making a spigot wiki

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Yes

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:28 PM

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@ocean quartz what DSL is that?

foggy pond Sep 6, 2020, 4:28 PM

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It being buggy as hell

ocean quartz Sep 6, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Gitbook > all

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:28 PM

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GitHub good spigot ugly

ocean quartz Sep 6, 2020, 4:28 PM

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@jovial warren Idk

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Github darktheme even nicer fingerguns

foggy pond Sep 6, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Owoat how do i dark theme github

ocean quartz Sep 6, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Extension

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https://github.com/StylishThemes/GitHub-Dark

GitHub

StylishThemes/GitHub-Dark

:octocat: Dark GitHub style. Contribute to StylishThemes/GitHub-Dark development by creating an account on GitHub.

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:30 PM

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@ocean quartz look at the imports if there are any

foggy pond Sep 6, 2020, 4:30 PM

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It does look sexy

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:31 PM

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but looking from that screenshot, it looks like that's not your code, since afaik you don't use default light theme lol

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Not really Frosty, just a coroutines video
@ocean quartz

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:31 PM

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because who uses default light theme am I right

ocean quartz Sep 6, 2020, 4:31 PM

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There is none, I just know it's Dao for android

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:31 PM

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@ niall

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:31 PM

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cough @heady birch cough xD

#

okay yeah it's an Android DSL

#

if you want ORM though, Exposed good

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:32 PM

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wouldn't be that hard to make

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It's just retrofit for SQL

ocean quartz Sep 6, 2020, 4:32 PM

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I might make something like that for for myself using hikari

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:32 PM

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it's probably pretty simple

ocean quartz Sep 6, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Yeah i think so too

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:33 PM

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yeah just a bit of classpath scanning, instantiating, and implementing

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and other thingys

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Wouldn't even need classpath scanning

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Also dynamic proxies fingerguns

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One of the best hidden JVM features

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:34 PM

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dynamic proxies?

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Yup

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:34 PM

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and yeah, you're right, you wouldn't

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Implementing an interface dynamically

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It's like classgen but cheap

foggy pond Sep 6, 2020, 4:34 PM

#

How would you guys decide the price tag to put on your premium plugin

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:34 PM

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price tags are easy for me: £0

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lol

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:34 PM

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$5-10 based on how useful you think it is

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Any more is probably gonna be a turn off for many people

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:35 PM

#

yeah

foggy pond Sep 6, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Yeah

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:35 PM

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And any less PayPal will tax too much

foggy pond Sep 6, 2020, 4:35 PM

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I wasn't planning on going over 10$ in any way shape or form

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:35 PM

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just think about what you would pay for it if you were a customer

#

that's probably the best idea

foggy pond Sep 6, 2020, 4:36 PM

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I think that's not good, a customer might really need it while another one hearing about it would think that it's useless

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:36 PM

#

I got a better idea

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Random number generator fingerguns

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:36 PM

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there's plenty of people in here who could act as potential customers

foggy pond Sep 6, 2020, 4:37 PM

#

At the time when I was making a server of my own I really really wanted a plugin like this (Hence I made it now), so I would say I'd pay 10$ for it

But a minigame server developer would not pay a cent as it's not for minigame servers

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:37 PM

#

but they wouldn't need it, would they?

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:37 PM

#

What kind of plugin is it?, ie. what does it do?

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:37 PM

#

^

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Honestly I'd just start at $10 and if nobody buys it just lower the price

#

Ez

foggy pond Sep 6, 2020, 4:38 PM

#

I already have a free version on spigot, so I can link that here and I can say what additional features the premium version has?

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Oh you can change the price

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:38 PM

#

I think so

foggy pond Sep 6, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Yeah I mean fair enough you can

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Don't see why you wouldn't be able to

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 4:38 PM

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10$ and OS it meh

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:38 PM

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idk I've only ever published one thing on spigot

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 4:39 PM

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People who want to buy will buy

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Which is a shit API I made 3 years ago

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Others would help grow potential buyers

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:39 PM

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10$ and OS it meh
this is a good idea

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:39 PM

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OS or be gone

foggy pond Sep 6, 2020, 4:39 PM

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I already have a discord server with a bunch of people that like the free version of the plugin and some are impatiently waiting for an update or something, so I already have some potential customers

#

Yeah it's OS

ocean quartz Sep 6, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Yeah always OS

foggy pond Sep 6, 2020, 4:40 PM

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I have it on github but it is private rn (Until the plugin is released)

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 4:40 PM

#

What does the plugin do btw?

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:40 PM

#

To continue my DB topic from earlier, anyone got any smart ways of determing whether I should use INSERT or UPDATE depending on if the data is already present in the db

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Karma?

foggy pond Sep 6, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Can I send the link to the free version of the plugin and say what the premium version does?

#

yea

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:41 PM

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I was thinking of just storing a boolean in the object, but that could be messy

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 4:41 PM

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You might need to work on the thread design btw

foggy pond Sep 6, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Yeah I'm aware

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Yes Klyser

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:41 PM

#

To continue my DB topic from earlier, anyone got any smart ways of determing whether I should use INSERT or UPDATE depending on if the data is already present in the db
something I wish every ORM framework had is createOrUpdate (it's in ORMLite, but others lack it)

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Its better if the initial sections briefs the plugin in a simple sentence

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:42 PM

#

you wanna try and retrieve the info and update it if it's present, or insert it if it isn't

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:42 PM

#

Would that not be inneficient?

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:42 PM

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that's about the only way I can think of doing it lol

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:42 PM

#

As opposed to just storing a boolean within the object

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 4:42 PM

#

Anyway, if you think if anyone would consider buying it at 10, you can safely OS it and post at 10

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:43 PM

#

don't you still have to get it in that case @hot hull ?

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 4:43 PM

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In case people complain, reduce the price

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:43 PM

#

or you mean caching it, which is a better way than asking the database for thingys

#

you check if it's in the cache, and if it isn't, you INSERT it, if it is, you UPDATE it

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:44 PM

#

Well Bardy, when the object is first created I need to determine if the db info should be created, or inserted, (since insert will throw an error if the info doesn't exist, vice versa)

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 4:44 PM

#

What are you using Frost?

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:44 PM

#

^

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:44 PM

#

As in?

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:44 PM

#

ORM

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:44 PM

#

Hikari

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:44 PM

#

that's a connection pool

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:45 PM

#

smh MySQL

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 4:45 PM

#

https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/8.0/en/insert-on-duplicate.html

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:45 PM

#

that's a database engine

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:45 PM

#

leave

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:45 PM

#

you using raw queries then?

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:45 PM

#

Yes

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:45 PM

#

oof

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 4:45 PM

#

Frosty, look into ActiveJDBC if you want to use something close to raw queries

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:46 PM

#

or look in to something like Exposed for ORM, because ORM > raw queries 😎

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 4:46 PM

#

And why is that bard?

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:47 PM

#

I find mapping an object to an entry in a database allows you to access it more easily, it avoids mistakes in raw query strings, and a lot of things are handled internally, making your life easier

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 4:47 PM

#

Easier != Better in all cases

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:47 PM

#

true

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 4:47 PM

#

Efficiency is key in this case fingerguns

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:47 PM

#

why are raw queries better then?

#

Efficiency is key in this case
Exposed is efficient, and so is ORMLite, and so is Hibernate, and so is JPA

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 4:48 PM

#

You handle how the object is saved and loaded back completely

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:48 PM

#

true

#

but don't raw queries mean more effort for you if you want to support multiple databases?

#

e.g. Exposed has a DAO API, which is non-DSL, meaning you can just use that and have it work for all JDBC drivers

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 4:49 PM

#

as I said

#

Im not talking about "easy"

#

Ofc, the point of ORMs is to make it easier

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 4:52 PM

#

😠 Light theme

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:52 PM

#

you think light theme = good?

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 4:54 PM

#

During day yes

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:55 PM

#

wat

#

what kind of light do you have in your room?

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Just not at night or whilst driving

#

Programming at the wheel

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:55 PM

#

please tell me you're joking

#

(about the latter)

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 4:56 PM

#

About the programming while driving: yes of course I am joking 🤦‍♂️
About using light IDE theme during day: No I am serious

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:56 PM

#

fair enough

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 4:56 PM

#

I tried to find an image for programming while driving

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:57 PM

#

lol

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 4:57 PM

#

📎 71lko8407WL.png

jovial warren Sep 6, 2020, 4:57 PM

#

nobody programs on their phone ffs

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Oh you found one

#

It showed people programming sat-navs for me

old wyvern Sep 6, 2020, 4:57 PM

#

I actually found that on a yt video earlier today

#

Just searched that up by title from the video

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 5:07 PM

#

How would you properly handle a wide table on a mobile device. The content just doesn't fit (bootstrap 3)

onyx loom Sep 6, 2020, 5:07 PM

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tell them to get a pc fingerguns

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Lol found it table-responsive

foggy pond Sep 6, 2020, 5:11 PM

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What should I write in there? Should it be a link to my paypal? Or what

📎 unknown.png

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 5:13 PM

#

yes

#

Thoughts on this? (not finished) https://paste.helpch.at/owisusecet.java

#

Would be so much cleaner if it were kotlin, cause now I still need setters and getters :((

steel heart Sep 6, 2020, 6:00 PM

#

Lombok wesmart

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 6:02 PM

#

:nausea :

#

@GetMapping("/user/{id}")
public String getUser(@PathVariable("id") final int id) {
   final User user = userService.getUser(id);
}

vs

@GetMapping("/user/{id}")
public String getUser(final User user) { (map it by id or something)

}```

#

How can I acheive the bottom

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 6:06 PM

#

Where is the try with resources @hot hull

heady birch Sep 6, 2020, 6:07 PM

#

Lol it worked

foggy pond Sep 6, 2020, 6:13 PM

#

Wait wha

#

I uploaded the premium resource

#

And I can see it on the resource list??

#

Shouldn't it not show up until it is approved?

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 6:14 PM

#

@prisma wave Oh yea that exists

#

Klyser, it shows up for you

#

Not for others

foggy pond Sep 6, 2020, 6:14 PM

#

h okay thank god

hot hull Sep 6, 2020, 6:15 PM

#

There's a shield next to the resource info

crystal summit Sep 6, 2020, 6:32 PM

#

Hi, when you will do AutoSell 1.16?

prisma wave Sep 6, 2020, 6:33 PM

#

#general-plugins

steel heart Sep 6, 2020, 9:32 PM

#

is rotationYaw = prevRotationYaw += 180f; same as rotationYaw += 180f, prevRotationYaw += 180f; ?

pastel imp Sep 6, 2020, 10:09 PM

#

light theme = eca

old wyvern Sep 7, 2020, 2:35 AM

#

@ocean quartz Does latest mf-cmds have any issues?

#

This command doesnt seem to be able to run? It keeps saying that its the wrong usage

📎 unknown.png

static zealot Sep 7, 2020, 2:37 AM

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ugh I use it and had no problems

#

so far

old wyvern Sep 7, 2020, 2:38 AM

#

📎 unknown.png

static zealot Sep 7, 2020, 2:38 AM

#

Matt's in a game of WarZone I think

old wyvern Sep 7, 2020, 2:38 AM

#

ah

static zealot Sep 7, 2020, 2:38 AM

#

wait which is the latest version? xD

#

I'm using 1.4

old wyvern Sep 7, 2020, 2:39 AM

#

1.4

static zealot Sep 7, 2020, 2:39 AM

#

yep no problems with it so far

#

oh wait

#

actually

#

Integer is the problem

#

I remember

old wyvern Sep 7, 2020, 2:39 AM

#

oh?

#

Isnt the issue only if its the primitive

#

Im using the wrapper Integer

static zealot Sep 7, 2020, 2:39 AM

#

ugh maybe I could be wrong xD

#

we better wait for matt. I'm just trying to look smart

old wyvern Sep 7, 2020, 2:40 AM

#

Im still trying to debug this, but ive been up for way too long and have no idea what im doing anymore

ocean quartz Sep 7, 2020, 2:43 AM

#

It should be fine ;o

old wyvern Sep 7, 2020, 2:44 AM

#

Doesnt seem to work Matt

#

trying something out, gimme a sec

#

This may or may not be a bug

hot hull Sep 7, 2020, 2:45 AM

#

Don't use Player

#

For the arg

surreal quarry Sep 7, 2020, 2:46 AM

#

^^

#

use a string

#

and convert to a player

#

with the proper checks and stuff ofc

old wyvern Sep 7, 2020, 2:46 AM

#

Ok can confirm, Anything with over 1 args does not work

ocean quartz Sep 7, 2020, 2:46 AM

#

What's wrong with using a player?

old wyvern Sep 7, 2020, 2:46 AM

#

Its not just player

#

Anything with a single argument seems to work fine

#

Anything with more than that fails

hot hull Sep 7, 2020, 2:47 AM

#

Then you must be doing something funky

surreal quarry Sep 7, 2020, 2:47 AM

#

id assume player would be looking for a player object

#

but maybe im wrong

old wyvern Sep 7, 2020, 2:47 AM

#

Not doing anything out of the ordinary

static zealot Sep 7, 2020, 2:47 AM

#

I use player and it works for me

#

well actually Player? if that makes a difference

old wyvern Sep 7, 2020, 2:47 AM

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Its not the Player blitz

#

Its the number of args

static zealot Sep 7, 2020, 2:47 AM

#

yeah saw the message was just saying