@ocean quartz noooooo, in IntelliJ? noooo
#dev-general
ocean quartz
No no, i was the one that have my package in portuguese xD
ocean quartz
Yeah that's something i won't dive in either
astral quiver
lol
jovial warren
I mean, it's probably your best package naming I've seen
ocean quartz
Cuz I am Brazilean xD
jovial warren
cough me.mattstudios.mf cough
astral quiver
br.com.devsrsouza.arroz.batata
jovial warren
wtf is that
jovial warren
lol
it's kinda hard to tell the difference between Spanish and Portugese sometimes
jovial warren
yeah
astral quiver
it's kinda hard to tell the difference between Spanish and Portugese sometimes
@jovial warren Here we have something called Portonhol
jovial warren
I don't even wanna know what that is
astral quiver
is a combinnation for Portuguese and Spanish
Portonhol because spanish here is "Espanhol"
Spain = Espanha in portuguese
ocean quartz
Spain*
old wyvern
Languages have diff names in diff languages?
ocean quartz
Yeah
ocean quartz
English = Ingles
jovial warren
English = Ingles
same in Spanish
Estados Unidos da America
another thing that's the same in Spanish (except forda)
old wyvern
Some group who made Spanish - Lets name this thing "Spanish"
Some other people - Nah imma call it Espanhol
prisma wave
they say espanol in spanish though
old wyvern
Oh really?
jovial warren
^
old wyvern
Damn this is really messed up
old wyvern
L'espagne
sounds like less pain
ocean quartz
English = Ingles
same in Spanish
Actually it's not the same, spanish is Inglés, portuguese is Inglês xD
old wyvern
unless im pronouncing it wrong
jovial warren
or just Ñ as a character
old wyvern
welp
prisma wave
I think it's pronounced l-eh-span-ye
old wyvern
oooh
prisma wave
idk my french pronunciation isn't great
jovial warren
https://studyspanish.com/typing-spanish-accents this is really handy lol
old wyvern
spanish is Inglés, portuguese is Inglês
By god
jovial warren
yep
old wyvern
I guess yea, just remembered they call English, Angresi in hindi
ocean quartz
Ñ is the same as "nh" in portuguese
jovial warren
Ñ would be pronounced "ehnyeh"
dusky drum
old wyvern
ഇത് ഈ നിലയിലേക്ക് വരുന്നുണ്ടോ
jovial warren
@dusky drum gj
dusky drum
gotta drop to 0.01
old wyvern
When you realize 75% of that is symbols to modify alphabet sounds
dusky drum
gotta lkove šđčćž
ocean quartz
ഇത് ഈ നിലയിലേക്ക് വരുന്നുണ്ടോ
Looks confusing af, but tbh the characters are very pretty
dusky drum
love*
old wyvern
Very hard to learn tho
I dropped that subject in 8th grade xD
Thats my mother tongue btw
dusky drum
А Б В Г Д Е Ж Ꙃ[13] Ꙁ И І К Л М Н О П Р С Т ОУ[14] Ф
Х Ѡ Ц Ч Ш Щ Ъ ЪІ[15] Ь Ѣ Ꙗ Ѥ Ю Ѫ Ѭ Ѧ Ѩ Ѯ Ѱ Ѳ Ѵ Ҁ[16]
jovial warren
what language is that
ocean quartz
Portuguese is like getting the normal western letters and adding everything you can to it
dusky drum
Cyrillic script
astral quiver
I found brazillian in every simple place
how this is possible
@pastel imp is Portuguese
dusky drum
rip
astral quiver
Testing bluetooth stuff is hard
dusky drum
i gotta go to school sadly.
astral quiver
Android is fucking hard :c
dusky drum
gotta love when you're in class with 27 pepl
and noone wears mask muahaha
free corona
Muahahahhaha!
0.01ms!!
http://images.virtusdevelops.eu/shareX/9fi5i7bi.png
sorry its 0.00ms
and i just update holograms async hehe
jovial warren
we're not allowed to wear masks in class lol
it's optional to wear them in the corridors
astral quiver
@pastel imp you are not having school at home?
we're not allowed to wear masks in class lol
@jovial warren wait, what?
dusky drum
what
astral quiver
I allowed to wear, wtf
ocean quartz
That's pretty dumb lmao
ocean quartz
I could be wrong since I am no longer in school but here it's mandatory
dusky drum
but i kinda think mask is useless if you're not infected.
jovial warren
^ yeah
dusky drum
yes its consistent:
http://images.virtusdevelops.eu/shareX/dda67oph.png
jovial warren
well, my parents claim that the KN95s keep like 99% out
dusky drum
i wear mask that says fuck corona heheheh
jovial warren
lol
dusky drum
so gotta love when profresors see that
astral quiver
but i kinda think mask is useless if you're not infected.
@dusky drum But have a alot of people that has Covid but does not have symptoms
jovial warren
"professors"? you at university or something?
astral quiver
Is hard to tell if you are safe
with 30 people in the same run, without masks
I think is more dangerous
dusky drum
"professors"? you at university or something?
High school
jovial warren
you don't have professors at high school?
dusky drum
yes we do
jovial warren
what country?
dusky drum
Slovenia
jovial warren
weird
jovial warren
we don't even have high school, we have primary school and secondary school
dusky drum
we have like
9 year school
and high scholls
and universities after that
or so called fakultetes
or watever
so
astral quiver
we don't even have high school, we have primary school and secondary school
@jovial warren Here is the same
dusky drum
primary
high school
unviersity or fakultete depends on which high school you went
astral quiver
I do unviersity
old wyvern
What grades do high school come up?
dusky drum
1-5
old wyvern
wtf?
dusky drum
yes
at university or fakultete you have 1-10
basicly in highschool you do like "matura" exam at the end
its basicly a big exam where you gradurate or hows so called
astral quiver
Here in brazil we have a Big Exam as well, but is for "free university"
dusky drum
:?
old wyvern
not the "marking" grade
astral quiver
not just public university
but for private as well
to governament pay
but Is hard to you pass
and the university here is really shit
old wyvern
You guys have a country wide common final exam for university?
astral quiver
I do computer science and ......
dusky drum
so whoever needs to know edu in slovenia this is better:
https://www.gov.si/en/topics/slovenski-solski-sistem-in-slovensko-ogrodje-kvalifikacij/
dusky drum
we also have final exam but just some classes on it are the same on all schools but there are 2 types of final exams
old wyvern
It is conducted by a single entity or is it just the model of the exam thats given under "ENEM"?
astral quiver
is really shit because if focus on poor people but, the folks that pass the exam is the folks that the father pays private course for the exam
dusky drum
so basicly we have profesors in secondary schools XD
jovial warren
how old do you guys have to be to go to university?
ocean quartz
I don't think it's age required, just finishing highschool/secondary no?
astral quiver
It is conducted by a single entity or is it just the model of the exam thats given?
@old wyvern Here on brazil, single entity, the goverment
old wyvern
My country requires you to pass 12th grade which would be at the very least 17 yo
jovial warren
yeah that's what I mean @ocean quartz
hot hull
You're a funny man Bardy
jovial warren
wdym
old wyvern
Here on brazil, single entity, the govermentDamn
hot hull
Ne, fuck this shit
dusky drum
XDDD
old wyvern
You are in uni as well right @hot hull ?
hot hull
High school
dusky drum
^^
old wyvern
Werent you 18?
jovial warren
what's the minimum age you can leave school in your countries?
hot hull
I am 18 yes
old wyvern
Oh as in you are about to finish high school?
dusky drum
ye in last year of 3 year one you can be 18
basicly you can be 19 at the finish of high school if you dont fail a class (you can repeat classes)
(classes = years)
so basicly you can do like second year 2 times ..
jovial warren
basicly you can be 19 at the finish of high school if you dont fail a class (you can repeat classes)
one thing that we don't have in the UK
old wyvern
There should honestly just be a global standardization of something like this
jovial warren
the ability to "fail a class"
astral quiver
is pretty bull shit, the goverment here is bull shit
hot hull
Our system is actually nice ngl
jovial warren
you cannot "fail" a year or a class or anything
hot hull
In comparison to any other larger country where it's actual shit
dusky drum
here you can fail a year
astral quiver
We are in second place of covid
old wyvern
Whats the system in your country frost?
jovial warren
the only reason you'd ever have to retake a year is if you miss it due to crap attendance
hot hull
Yugi, me and Gasper are both from the same country
old wyvern
Ah
old wyvern
We are in second place of covid
Right behind ya at 3rd xD
jovial warren
Yugi, me and Gasper are both from the same country
"both"?
astral quiver
Slovenia looks really nice
old wyvern
old wyvern
He was answering to me bard
jovial warren
ah okay
astral quiver
We are the fucking 2 babyyyyyyyy
hot hull
Yugi, you're saying that like it's a competition lmao
old wyvern
xD
astral quiver
Takes to this bull shit governament!!!!
old wyvern
I mean honestly with the situation like its here Indias about to top corona charts
dusky drum
sory but slovenia has highest graduration rate
old wyvern
☠️
jovial warren
the only people I know here who are from the UK are me and @prisma wave , and maybe @heady birch since he sells all his plugins in Great British Pounds
ocean quartz
Hard to compete against the US, after all, always number 1!
astral quiver
Yes... 1bi people
hot hull
And Kali
astral quiver
always number 1
prisma wave
kali katsu
old wyvern
Its not even the population thats the issue
astral quiver
in everything
old wyvern
Idiots
prisma wave
the mccaut guy I think
jovial warren
@prisma wave oh yeah lol
old wyvern
Go about without masks
old wyvern
Other idiots randomly walk about in cities
dusky drum
only 4% pepl fail years
jovial warren
@onyx loom and @errant geyser are British as well
hot hull
That's a scam Gasper
ocean quartz
Interesting, didn't expect that from portugal lmao
Everyone drops out of highschool
dusky drum
thats like primary school frosty i think
hot hull
Kek
dusky drum
since you can fail year in primary school to XDDD
old wyvern
I swear in the future Japan will be the new atlantis
jovial warren
tags = "Varias personas están escribiendo"
dusky drum
but you're required to finish pirmary school
hot hull
Anyhow, time for Kali's nuke
jovial warren
yeah
jovial warren
so did the US
jovial warren
it was the Soviet Union back then silly
dusky drum
imagine making nuclear rocket to go to space but it explodes HEHHEE
old wyvern
This is the sorta shit they making us do 🙃
dusky drum
oh and btw most pepl from US didnt come from us but EU hehhahahahhaha
yugi do you know what we have to do?
we gotta know how exactly is fiber optic cable made to micro meters and everyhting
like YEY"đ
jovial warren
@old wyvern better than the shit we learn lol
old wyvern
xD
we gotta know how exactly is fiber optic cable made to micro meters and everyhting
Isnt that 10th grade stuff?
dusky drum
thats 3th highschool
old wyvern
I have no idea what highschool is supposed to be
dusky drum
oh and look at the prfect coding we do in 2nd grade
basicly its
primary is 9 years after that you go to high school that can be 2/3/4 years
old wyvern
Yea we only had an actual coding class in 10th grade as well
I chose Bio-Maths stream for 11th and 12th so didnt have any other classes til uni
jovial warren
@dusky drum you get to do programming?
dusky drum
yes
jovial warren
I mean it's C++ but still
dusky drum
and html and css
old wyvern
Whats wrong with c++?
dusky drum
and java in 4th grade if you want to
i mean there are different school in our cuntry and each has its own programing language
jovial warren
Whats wrong with c++?
I personally find it a horrible language to look at and a horrible language to write in
dusky drum
like you can do python, c++, c# and something
in university you can do c# and that stuff
jovial warren
what about Kotlin smh
dusky drum
no kotlin sorry
jovial warren
oof
old wyvern
I personally find it a horrible language to look at and a horrible language to write in
Its not tho
dusky drum
but we do quite a lot of coding in universities
jovial warren
yeah you're in university
old wyvern
I dont think kotlin is taught as academics anywhere atleast yet
jovial warren
"3th" noice
dusky drum
basicly 9 + 3 so 12
dusky drum
yes
jovial warren
lol
jovial warren
yeah
dusky drum
well all schooling is free here but ok
old wyvern
Same here, but we call it "Elementary school"
jovial warren
"pepčl" wat dis
dusky drum
pepl*
old wyvern
And its not mandatory, buts its free for people below the poverty line
dusky drum
here you must finish it haha!
old wyvern
rip
jovial warren
we have primary school, secondary school, and then sixth form
and those are all free and compulsory
dusky drum
after that all schooling is optional
jovial warren
anything after sixth form (16-18) is optional
dusky drum
but depending on grades you had in elementary school it decides if high school is gonna accept you
basicly 7,8,9 years in elementary school you collect points
that count for high schools
since schools are free we have 22% VAT here .
so you pay schools using VAT bam
jovial warren
yeah similar for us
jovial warren
but we don't call it "high school", we call it "sixth form"
jovial warren
probably because it's the sixth key stage
jovial warren
ocean quartz
Damn that gif makes me dizzy lmao
old wyvern
Damn that gif makes me dizzy lmao
same
jovial warren
like English, Maths, Science, History, Geography, Spanish, etc.
those are faculties
dusky drum
so basicly we have
elementary school
high school
faculty
and
university
basicly highest graduration is making a doctorate
i belive
hot hull
Which is worth two shits 
dusky drum
yeh in slovenia its kinda garbage to even have it
old wyvern
Faculty means professors/departments if im correct?
dusky drum
you also have professors in high schools
jovial warren
@old wyvern you would be correct, yes
dusky drum
we only have teachers in elementary school
hot hull
You're pretty much set if you have highschool finished
dusky drum
after elementary school we have so called professors ha
old wyvern
You guys just reffered to "faculty" as a subject and level of schooling?
dusky drum
you can make magister using faculty
basicly what google says master's degree
in university you can go to doctorate
old wyvern
Bachelors, masters and doctorates are earned from universities afaik
old wyvern
?
dusky drum
we bettrer
old wyvern
What?
jovial warren
Bachelors, masters and doctorates are earned from universities afaik
you would be correct again
we just call it a "degree" though
old wyvern
Yea coz im not studying a masters degree rn, its a bachelors degree
I also have seniors who are studying for a masters degree
Some even take integrated courses to earn both together with a +1 year of study
astral quiver
i'm doing a bachelors degree as well
dusky drum
how do i add something like this to my github profile page:
http://images.virtusdevelops.eu/shareX/dtyok881.png
hot hull
Everyone is A+ for some reason
jovial warren
actually that reminds me that I still have to finish mine lol
hot hull
Sheesh
pastel imp
@pastel imp you are not having school at home?
@astral quiver I am in vacation bruh
summer vacation
3 months
welp actually 2 and 1/2
ocean quartz
hot hull
It's supposed to check your code, but I doubt it actually works
ocean quartz
I mean WIP xD
dusky drum
i forgot whats the name of that programing language or what is it that starts with C?
its not C, c++ or c#
prisma wave
COBOL?
prisma wave
Clojure
obtuse gale
How do I
Make a shortcut that does
@Override
public boolean onCommand(CommandSender sender, Command cmd, String label, String[] args){
return true;
}
In Intellij
prisma wave
just implement CommandExecutor and Alt + Enter?
jovial warren
it's not rocket science
obtuse gale
Unless you're making a bukkit plugin to work on a rover
pastel imp
@ocean quartz yo when's version 3.0(question mark?) of the cmd framework comin?
obtuse gale
I just recently got into Inteliij so Idk how things are setup yet
ocean quartz
@pastel imp 3.0? Not sure, shouldn't take too long though
static zealot
3.0 ? Isn't it on like 1.4 rn?
ocean quartz
I think so yeah xD
static zealot
are you just going to go 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 3.0? xD
onyx loom
😮
pastel imp
wait WHAT
pastel imp
yo bois
is sponge similar to bukkit
like plugin making sidewise
like ye
making a plugin for sponge
I mean
pastel imp
yes but is it the same for ex. to create guis, commands etc the same?
wdym by better also..
distant sun
it's not bukkit 🤷
pastel imp
ye ik that
regal gale
Fair enough 👀
quiet depot
@pastel imp the only similarity between sponge’s api and bukkit, is that they’re both for minecraft
pastel imp
oof
ocean quartz
What?
south parrot
there's a way for get my full customer's list from spigot and update it if i have a purchase in a pastebin? (for example)
regal gale
ocean quartz
Lmao
green trout
this version
@versed ridge tyty
odd cedar
hello everyone, I need to use spigot.sendTitle but it's deprecated and I would need to use PacketPlayOutTitle for doing it, but when I try to import it, it's not available...
I'm using Maven, my import is
<dependency>
<groupId>org.spigotmc</groupId>
<artifactId>spigot-api</artifactId>
<version>1.8.8-R0.1-SNAPSHOT</version>
<scope>provided</scope>
</dependency>
already tried with <artifactId>spigot</artifactId> instead, but also doesn't work... all net.minecraft import doesn't exist in this repo
is there any way to get access to PacketPlayOutTitle using maven dependencies? or I need to include the .jar module?
obtuse gale
You need to add the full spigot to your project, not just the api
have you ran buildtools for 1.8.8 before?
odd cedar
nope, I didn't
obtuse gale
You need to run it so its installed to your local maven repo (I think thats the right terminology lol)
Then remove -api from the dependency
odd cedar
nice, ty 🙂
hot hull
Bruh
obtuse gale
I cant think of a better way to do it lol
its just a shit ton of JDA Utilities event waiters
scarlet sand
The ezprestige plugin I see is not compatible with legendchat, how do I make a suggestion to add compatibility?
glad spear
JDA Utilities 
obtuse gale
I only use it for the event waiter
fun main(args: Array<String>) {
runApplication<Main>(*args)
}
@SpringBootApplication class Main``` I think this is the smallest main class ive ever seen....
heady birch
Weird
obtuse gale
hm?
foggy pond
I know that when releasing a premium resource I have to wait a few days for it to be reviewed and possibly accepted
But what about releasing updates?
Do I have to wait days for those to be looked at before they are released?
heady birch
No updates are not reviewed
remote goblet
Aight so lesson of the day
@onyx loom
don't use pdm 0.0.27
it only minimizes the jar file slightly 
onyx loom
whats wrong with it
remote goblet
Well in short
my jar file size went from 200kb -> 1.8mb when going from 0.0.26 -> 0.0.27
onyx loom
doesn't that like
defeat the purpose of downloading the dependencies at runtime
basically
remote goblet
yep
my jar file would usually be like
4.6mb
so it like, minimizes the file size slightly
onyx loom
why does it sound like kotlin is already shaded inside pdm
so ur jar is normally 200kb
and iirc kotlin is 1.6mb 
onyx loom
normally 200kb with pdm working
onyx loom
ill have a look if i experience the same soon
distant sun
is there any tebex java sdk?
glad spear
steel heart
Yo if anyone knows Forge API 1.16, you’re more than welcome to my dms
distant sun
I know Forge, he's a nice guy
quiet depot
@steel heart you're more than welcome to #development
distant sun
it was a joke
obtuse gale
steel heart
No but seriously some stuff makes no sense
foggy pond
I don't need the break; segments in this switch statement correct
Since I would be exiting the method in each case
regal gale
Yeah
foggy pond
lunar cypress
Switch bad
obtuse gale
when good
hot hull
@foggy pond Should probably make white or some shit as the defaylt, to prevent any accidental npes
glad spear
Klyser, is that resource public :)
glad spear
Need a good 1.16 cc plugin lol
foggy pond
I mean I have made a plugin that's supposed to add hex colors in chat/scoreboard/tablist and stuff
Which is public
glad spear
DM me when its released if you dont mind :)
foggy pond
This isn't a chatcolor plugin though, that's just a method I have to convert 1.16 colors to 1.15 ones
glad spear
dammit
foggy pond
Again, I have made a ChatColor plugin for 1.16 a few months ago already
pastel imp
@onyx loom you having the size issue with kotlin?
you already fixed it do you need a fix?
onyx loom
let me see
onyx loom
@remote goblet
remote goblet
yes what
onyx loom
o wait wot
remote goblet
Brister's gradle plugin 
pastel imp
cause I was having a kotlin issue where my plugin went from 30kb to 1.7mb
when building my project using gradle
remote goblet
it'll do that
heady birch
Sometimes there is absolutley no need to use the dependencies your using
pastel imp
I already fixed it
remote goblet
you fixed it without using pdm 
onyx loom
onyx loom
how so?
remote goblet
please tell so we can stop boosting brister's ego
onyx loom
@heady birch shut up
remote goblet
yes
onyx loom
kotlin is a need
remote goblet
using java is a sin
pastel imp
xd
heady birch
You can try shrinking jars it with proguard.
remote goblet
pastel imp
gradle?
heady birch
I hope your EnternalReports gets a StackOverflowException
hot hull
So rude sheesh
remote goblet
genuinely, it's fun 
try it sometime
pastel imp
welp
pastel imp
how I fixed it:
added compileOnly(kotlin("stdlib")) to build.gradle.kts
note: not using groovy
dusky drum
haha
remote goblet
dusky drum
removing kotlin from kotlin plugin
onyx loom
uh
dusky drum
totaly safe
onyx loom
thats not a fix
heady birch
Kotlin works nicely with Maven as well. Gradle didn't seem to have its own shade alternative. Or it was some third-party thing
onyx loom
shadowjar niall
onyx loom
much better than maven 🤮
dusky drum
ori, there is also FatJar
remote goblet
ChonkJar*
hot hull
heady birch
I mean that could technically be possible
onyx loom
heady birch
You would increase the radius as you approach corners
Probably some sine wave to determine the radius
pastel imp
ye welp worked for me xd
remote goblet
It worked for you until it doesnt
pastel imp
also when you do a new project using gradle kts it already has that line in it
by default
onyx loom
afonso is that the only plugin on ur server?
remote goblet
Is that the only kotlin plugin
onyx loom
^
pastel imp
afonso is that the only plugin on ur server?
@onyx loom nope have others
onyx loom
probably the issue then
hot hull
Making a new gradle project using mcdev is a pain
pastel imp
remove all the plugins and tell me if it works
@onyx loom wdym by that
remote goblet
im the dumbass here
pastel imp
only have 1 plugin?
onyx loom
having compileOnly means that u dont have the kotlin stdlib inside ur jar when compiling afaik
hot hull
Indeed Kali
onyx loom
so when u try to run it without any other external factors it 99.99999% wont work
pastel imp
lets see
dusky drum
what ta fuck do i see this right http://images.virtusdevelops.eu/shareX/bld7n1s1.png
dusky drum
and ?
pastel imp
commands seem to work
dusky drum
without kotlin sdk?
pastel imp
stdlib
dusky drum
then you shaded stdlib into spigot
remote goblet
kaliber is typing...
onyx loom
shut the fuck up ori
pastel imp
remote goblet
dusky drum
do you know what compileOnly does?
pastel imp
yup
onyx loom
pastel imp
maybe one thing may be that I am doing it in a localhost
and I already have kotlin somewhere in my pc?
idk
not sure
dusky drum
wtf is even like kotlin plugin you're using?
hot hull
He's using kotlin dls, you're not Gasper
pastel imp
that's why I have kotlin
dusky drum
ah i dO:
compile "org.jetbrains.kotlin:kotlin-stdlib-jdk8"
pastel imp
I don't rlly use kotlin
dusky drum
i actually dont care about plugin size hehe
pastel imp
means you need to use gradle with kts
?
i actually dont care about plugin size hehe
@dusky drum you should
dusky drum
why?
onyx loom
I don't rlly use kotlin
wait wot
hot hull
You shouldn't
remote goblet
You shouldn't
dusky drum
why should you care about size
hot hull
Just don't go shading unnecessary shit lol
pastel imp
You should.
heady birch
Spigot upload limits 🙂
hot hull
Bruh
pastel imp
in my big brain
dusky drum
othervise i have my dataserver so i can shit it up on dataserver
remote goblet
who said plugins are going on spigot 
onyx loom
@heady birch no one gonna reach the spigot upload limit unless ur using spring 🌝
remote goblet
pastel imp
in my brain the reason to me makes sense
remote goblet
Or using kotlin reflection
pastel imp
idk if it's true but anyways
heady birch
I managed to get spring fit into under 4mb. But had no room left for Jdbc in the future
onyx loom
frail glade
Just dropped the first live update using PDM. Let's hope all hell doesn't break loose after an hour.
dusky drum
XDDD
onyx loom
pastel imp
like in my mind.. when you load a plugin... if you have kotlin in each one of them wouldn't it take even longer to load?
hot hull
Glare, big rip
pastel imp
and load "unused" shits
pastel imp
I mean it uses kotlin nha?
heady birch
I don't know doesn't it crash because the class loader cant load two classes with the same fully qualified name
onyx loom
yea that dont make sense
heady birch
org/kotlin
org/kotlin
errant geyser
Yeah Niall, thats why relocation exists 5head
pastel imp
ok me big confused
hot hull
Otherwise you could be using an outdated ass shit version which doesn't work
pastel imp
but makes sense cause you guys actually using kotlin
hot hull
Also bruh, y'all needa stop saying JK
onyx loom
@pastel imp are u not using kotlin?
frail glade
Relocate doesn't exist when using PDM 
dusky drum
shadowJar {
relocate lel
pastel imp
@pastel imp are u not using kotlin?
@onyx loom I am and I am not?
dusky drum
thats why i dont use PDM
errant geyser
Glare he's working on it ok
hot hull
Indeed wafle boi
pastel imp
just using kotlin for gradle
onyx loom
wait WHAT
pastel imp
not actually coding my plugin in kotlin
onyx loom
no wonder ur plugin works for u
frail glade
I actually thought I was always going to use Kotlin but I still use Java like 80% of the time.
hot hull
The feeling when you're forced to use java
frail glade
Since I started doing private work again, I do most of it in Java so the server owners can understand it.
hot hull
When in kotlin the class could be 1 third of the size :((
frail glade
I mean I don't mind using Java.
dusky drum
why use kotlin if not use it?=
heady birch
When in kotlin the class could be 1 third of the size :((
Worst argument
pastel imp
you know...
heady birch
Why use yaml when we can use pure binary protocols?
dusky drum
wtf niall you No?
hot hull
Not an argument smh Niall, just pointing shit out ;(
frail glade
I mean, I actively am working on like 8 projects, I'd say 2 are Kotlin and 6 are Java.
heady birch
Ecloud? 😭
onyx loom
u should make it 8-0 🙃
frail glade
Lol
frail glade
Like I said, I don't mind using Java.
pastel imp
java is bad BUT java is og
and by default
everyone goes back to their start...
example: minecraft start of my gaming
then stopped.. fortnite... cod.. etc etc
now look at me
onyx loom
pastel imp
back to where I started
frail glade
Well with a lot of my clients using Java 11+, I don't have to declare types in Java.
That's one of the main reasons I went to Kotlin in the first place was no type declaration.
pastel imp
welp
I probs wont ever use any java version above 8
welp kinda depends
I make my plugins in 1.12.2
frail glade
Oh yikes
onyx loom
frail glade
Going back to private development was probably one of the best ideas I've had in awhile. They all use the latest version of MC.
pastel imp
oof that sucks
onyx loom
how?
frail glade
Well, to start, I tell them up-front I don't deal with 1.8.8 bullshit 😆
onyx loom
frail glade
I actually came across a project that I had to work on the other day that was started by another developer... can you guess who?
pastel imp
1.8.8 bullshit is one thing
onyx loom
does it start with a K
frail glade
Nope
frail glade
I won't make you guess, haha, it was Sxtanna. The dude is so good at programming like holy fuck the code was beautiful.
pastel imp
latest is even worse..
onyx loom
😳
ocean quartz
If it wasn't for his allman style
hot hull
Allman makes it even more beautiful
pastel imp
one of the reasons I think 1.8.8 good af is that it has years
obtuse gale
bruh
pastel imp
- it's optimized af
onyx loom
afonso, no
obtuse gale
its 6 years old
frail glade
Matt's is still my go-to, but it was really fun to try something else too.
pastel imp
kaliber, yes.
ocean quartz
Afonso 
obtuse gale
means... we all knows how to fix things on it
or just like learn to fix things on the latest...
ocean quartz
1.8 is a nightmare to work with
frail glade
The past few weeks of doing private work has actually been more fun programming than I have had in a long time.
pastel imp
he already worked with some big brazilian servers
and they literally have a 1.8.8 server
running 1.5k players
NO PROXY
or whatever
frail glade
The main reasons being:
- I love the clients I work with
- They use newer versions of the game
- They actually test the stuff for me
pastel imp
only one single server
distant sun
Nice
obtuse gale
cool bro
hot hull
1.8 is shit
obtuse gale
doesnt mean its a good thing to do
ocean quartz
Only ever did like 2/3 commissions, and wasn't too bad actually
frail glade
Clients have been showing me old jars / projects they needed rewritten and dear god, I should show you guys some of the stuff that's in older code.
onyx loom
distant sun
Thread.sleep()
hot hull
Best one
pastel imp
doesn't mean it 's good
pastel imp
but 1.8 is optimized af
onyx loom
looks like my code 
ocean quartz
Alright time to get out of bed, Glare can you do my last multi? 
distant sun
Never compare you with hp
distant sun
Aha
frail glade
=multi spin
compact perchBOT
onyx loom
4x 
pastel imp
Never compare you with hp
@distant sun I am not rlly comparing myself to hp
frail glade
Matt, Warzone later today?
pastel imp
as my server didn't even opened
ocean quartz
Not bad, thank you ;p
And sure!
pastel imp
but I am looking at other servers that use 1.8.8
hot hull
Jesus Glare
onyx loom
can i join 😳
distant sun
Hypixel is full custom, cant compare public stuff with them
onyx loom
i redownloaded warzone again 😳
distant sun
So "hypixel still uses 1.8" isnt a valid argument
frail glade
I'll also mention that I rewrote that entire class in under 50 lines and it works better than it did before.
pastel imp
Hypixel is full custom, cant compare public stuff with them
@distant sun who said my server will be with public stuff?
frail glade
NBT is my new favorite 
pastel imp
also who said the servers I am speaking about use public stuff?
distant sun
Lmao
onyx loom
👏
obtuse gale
Hypixel would use a fully custom jar
hot hull
Sorry to tell you Afonso, but I doubt yours can/could be as custom as hypixel
distant sun
You as user not your server lol
pastel imp
Sorry to tell you Afonso, but I doubt yours can/could be as custom as hypixel
that's obvious
distant sun
Anyways
hot hull
Bruh vanity uses like mostly public plugins
onyx loom
anyways
hot hull
And they got like 1k
onyx loom
1.8 bad
pastel imp
Bruh vanity uses like mostly public plugins
say what?
distant sun
Quantity over quality @hot hull
onyx loom
😬
pastel imp
WAIT WHAT
distant sun
Lol
pastel imp
you said the S word
ocean quartz
Afonso, we all understand the performance of 1.8, but it is still a nightmare to work with, it's outdated, insecure, has a lot of broken things, lacks features, etc
hot hull
I have sinned yes
pastel imp
thought that was illegal
hot hull
But it's a friday so one sinn is allowed
pastel imp
Afonso, we all understand the performance of 1.8, but it is still a nightmare to work with, it's outdated, insecure, has a lot od broken things, lacks features, etc
tell me more
hot hull
Nah it's 3:30pm
pastel imp
ye ^^
onyx loom
aCtUaLlY iTs 2:30 pM
hot hull
Shut up weeb
onyx loom
:(
ocean quartz
2:29
pastel imp
lol
obtuse gale
11.29
pastel imp
don't be that agressive frosty
hot hull
For some reason I have my phone clock set to auto, but it's 1 min ahead
ocean quartz
Actually 14:29 cuz 24h best
hot hull
Which makes no sense
hot hull
15:32 apparently
ocean quartz
Why are you 2 minutes ahead of us 😢
onyx loom
hes fast as fuck
hot hull
Can't say the same thing for the bus
ocean quartz
Burn the time traveler!
pastel imp
hot hull
6 min late
ocean quartz
What should i do today, work on the rewrite or the gui previewer?
onyx loom
work on pdm and help get relocation done 😳
ocean quartz
Can just check lucko's code for relocation and adapt it ez
pastel imp
or do both
ocean quartz
2 different projects ;p
pastel imp
stonks
onyx loom
o