Why not both?
#dev-general
old wyvern
Yes 
prisma wave
So you can use interpreting in development but once you're ready you can compile for speed
old wyvern
Project Elara
unreal briar
skript is kind of dead now
onyx loom
u guys are thinking really far into the future when u barely have a working language 😆
hot hull
Did someone say the S word
old wyvern
xD
onyx loom
hot hull
You hecking sinners
old wyvern
I mean technically we have all the logic we need till parsing down
Moving it to go shouldnt be too hard I hope
prisma wave
Awesome
prisma wave
Go is super clean
old wyvern
Also km I need opinions on something
hot hull
Would something like the js placeholders make sense/be a good addition so people can easily add in actions without the need of another plugin (FJ)
hot hull
Bruh, go big or go home
prisma wave
Touché
old wyvern
So I was working on a Skyblock plugin, Initial plan was to force create a "Member" wrapper for all players even if they arent part of a Island, as in the IslandID field and Rank field would be null.
Alternative choice would be to delete records of a Member when they leave and island and not have a Member for players without an Island.
First option introduces 2 nullable fields inside Member
Second option makes Member itself nullable.
I feel like Second option should be the choice I should go for but at the same time feel like first option is more managable
hot hull
It's not the plugin, it's the fact that it's a good learning experience figuring that out
old wyvern
What do you recommend?
hot hull
First is better imo Yugi
prisma wave
First is definitely more manageable
You couldn't set it to null everywhere
So you'd end up with "invalid" members
prisma wave
or have a PlayerWrapper with a nullable Member field or something
old wyvern
Oh member is supposed to be the player wrapper here
astral quiver
Currently, I guess, Bukkript is the only script project for Bukkit that really compile to bytecode / jvm
And its use PDM
soooo its great!
prisma wave
old wyvern
we'll bring in the competiton souz
old wyvern
xD
astral quiver
😭
astral quiver
I don't have much time to improve it
And its opensource
improve it
if you do in will
if you are talking about Elara
old wyvern
You think Im sitting around free all day? xD
astral quiver
I will love to see it on Bukkit as well
old wyvern
Thanks bro 🍉
astral quiver
The Citizens folks done a scripting language as well, right?
astral quiver
But Elara looks like a real language, not a scripting
Yes denizens
never use it
I don't like scripting languages so much
prisma wave
because it is a real language
ocean quartz
Ugh denizen
old wyvern
😂
distant sun
🤢
prisma wave
Elara is the ultimate scripting language
old wyvern
jovial warren
unreal briar
If you want a real language, why not make a wrapper for javascript?
unreal briar
It's easy to learn, relatively performance effective, and java already has some javascript engines implemented
ocean quartz
TypeScript
unreal briar
so what's the point in creating another language which is less widespread and maybe even less advanced
old wyvern
Why make a wrapper for javascript when you already have a lot of work done for the language?
unreal briar
if not just use the javascript engines
old wyvern
No need
unreal briar
and some plugin to load the scripts in
jovial warren
It's easy to learn, relatively performance effective, and java already has some javascript engines implemented
and encourages bad coding practice, uses duck typing, and is a very premature language
prisma wave
js isn't duck typed?
jovial warren
oh sorry, I forgot, it's worse
prisma wave
and I wouldn't say any of those things are true
it's definitely more mature than it was
unreal briar
The main driving force behind skript was that it was easy to learn and you didn't need to know programming to be able to understand
jovial warren
^ exactly why it's awful
unreal briar
if you create a programming language that is more complex and more viable than java, you're already driving away off the path a looong while
It is awful for large networks, as it's not intended for use in production
it's cool for school projects or anything at a small scale
ocean quartz
Go for TypeScript over JavaScript
unreal briar
not to mention it's mature and widely explained
if you want something high performance then why not directly go for java development
or maybe java-native for paranoid people
prisma wave
if you want high performance then why not go for elara
old wyvern
^
prisma wave
we plan for it to be the fastest language ever made
old wyvern
😂
prisma wave
solving fermat's last theorem in approximately 10ms
old wyvern
10ms? oof nah, 10ns
ocean quartz
Do it in 1 plank time
prisma wave
it also supports every single cpu architecture
old wyvern
Yes. Orrrr lets make a smaller unit of time
prisma wave
even the ones that haven't been invented yet
old wyvern
😂
ocean quartz
1 elara, approximately 0.1 planck time
prisma wave
0.01*
old wyvern
😂
prisma wave
quantum computing made redundant after the elara language discovers the mysteries of the universe in 2ns
old wyvern
🍉
dusky drum
2ns what about 10^-100?
astral quiver
The main driving force behind skript was that it was easy to learn and you didn't need to know programming to be able to understand
@unreal briar KotlinBukkitAPI and Bukkript is kinda like that
So easy to use
I could do better
hopefully in the future this could replace Skript
I friend of mine is working on a Skript to Bukkript converter
prisma wave
lmaoo
distant sun
it wont replace skript at all
distant sun
not even then
astral quiver
lol
distant sun
some people won't leave skript
astral quiver
is kotlin sooo, I can't
ocean quartz
Skript is like a virus infecting people
astral quiver
This is exacly what happens with Java as well
distant sun
I mean, if they wanted to, they would have learned a real programming language
astral quiver
I know people that just don't like Kotlin because they don't know
hot hull
Bruh y'all fuckers sinning again smh
hot hull
I used to dislike kotlin, then I tried it
astral quiver
everyone that tries it, loves it
ocean quartz
People who refuse it will never understand it's beauty 🙏🏻
prisma wave
it's proven to be psychologically impossible to hate elara
astral quiver
it is a good language
prisma wave
lmao
ocean quartz
They have a Kotlin and a No Kotlin emoji
prisma wave
the paper people are weird
ocean quartz
Cuz no java is common sense
distant sun
"Pro skript!"
astral quiver
lol
old wyvern
The circlejerk is back bois
old wyvern
its already here
ocean quartz
I'd do a no Skript emoji but their icon is already enough to get people away
prisma wave
good god
old wyvern
who made that bloody shit
astral quiver
The Bukkript icon is just easy
ocean quartz
How many fonts in our logo? Yes
prisma wave
that is seizure inducing
astral quiver
Is a Kotlin in a Bucket
old wyvern
what?
ocean quartz
You should have called it Bucklin
old wyvern
oh nvm
astral quiver
old wyvern
I didnt see your last msg
astral quiver
Bukkript ! Bukkit Kotlin Scripting!
ocean quartz
I got you
ocean quartz
Fail
prisma wave
:elaramoon:
distant sun
where are the brackets coming from?
old wyvern
Fail
Not really, logo not ready xD
astral quiver
Jetbrains Mono
distant sun
kotlin script?
old wyvern
Didnt sx have something like that?
astral quiver
Take it back young man!
old wyvern
Did he delete it or something?
ocean quartz
Never! They are pretty similar, but Fira Medium is thicker
astral quiver
I have this project for 2 years+ I guess
But Kotlin scripting is really imature
two years ago
currently, still, but is better, with better IntelliJ support as well
jovial warren
Fira Code Medium > Jetbrains Mono
yes
ocean quartz
Yugi, don't think he ever finished it
Can't find on gh so idk what happened
astral quiver
Also supporting Compiler Plugins that currently I do not add to Bukkript because it breaks IntelliJ
old wyvern
ah
distant sun
astral quiver
The first commit we never forget https://github.com/DevSrSouza/Bukkript/commit/d1eb2ae8e20bd6c74a38cd92c09aa38a2a0cc07e
ocean quartz
jovial warren
@prisma wave what would freeCompilerArgs = listOf() be in Groovy DSL?
is it just [] or what?
jovial warren
also can you push a devel branch or something to the main project so I have somewhere to PR that isn't master?
prisma wave
yea 1 sec
jovial warren
alright
and we can kinda just merge W.I.P shit in there and make a draft PR to merge in to master to track progress or something
prisma wave
done
prisma wave
great
jovial warren
you can check it out if you want and request changes where you feel necessary (which I encourage you to do if you have time)
also you should create a milestone
dusky drum
hoho my plugin is growing:
http://images.virtusdevelops.eu/shareX/b8e68sy5.png
dusky drum
yep
jovial warren
what's the plugin called?
jovial warren
ah HolographicPlaceholders
jovial warren
7k downloads as well
dusky drum
all i wanted was baltop on holograms and i couldnt find any working plugin so i made a one
XD
and i was thinking of implementing animations that Niall has in his plugin but kinda need to wait for HD to add hex support
ocean quartz
Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/jetbrains/kotlin/psi/KtTreeVisitorVoid 
jovial warren
oof
astral quiver
oof
I need to do a better abstraction for my menu preview
because if you add a forloop, it will not get
ocean quartz
Perfect finally working again
dusky drum
um whats this
ocean quartz
Kotlin inspection for IJ plugin
dusky drum
innnnteresting
ocean quartz
Since the base is working, time to make a gh repo yay
dusky drum
:3
i gotta update my dinamic and static line handler tommorow :3
and then add all the commands and there we go plugin ready for public muahaha
ocean quartz
I actually love IJ's PsiViewer, it literally gives you everything
astral quiver
Yesss
pastel imp
psiviewer?
ocean quartz
Allows you to view psi elements (basically the code you're typing)
obtuse gale
https://i.imgur.com/XBbyrgi.png Does anyone know what this auto complete thing is called in intellij?
It's unbound so I can't press enter to accept the completion or whatever it's called
ocean quartz
Pretty sure it's just Code completion
obtuse gale
nah, it opens up this: https://i.imgur.com/ and none of those work
ocean quartz
Was replying to this
Does anyone know what this auto complete thing is called in intellij?
Not how to fix it xD
Idk how to fix that tbh
obtuse gale
brUh
it was "Complete Current Statement" under Editor Actions if anyone has this issue
pastel imp
@ocean quartz soooo that means it's literally 20x easier to do the GUI viewer now
welp depends.. you need to images with different amounts of rows and edit the "chest" name out and now you can just check for the row number and just use the image you need
then draw the title in the correct position
and then.. you would kinda need to access a db with all the items xd
that's the mheee part
I don't see how you are actually gonna draw the items
regal gale
Finally.. it's been 2 weeks now that I will start to convert my AdvancedTP to kotlin for the sake of
prisma wave
regal gale
Well, ofc i might suck at kotlin in a direction
For example, no idea how to use object properly.
prisma wave
singletons
Objects are basically static, but everything is static
Internally they compile to singletons
old wyvern
I miss using enum singletons in Java 😂
regal gale
And no idea how to use ?: either ._.
old wyvern
Thats an elvis operator thie
If lhs is null, rhs becomes the result
val test: String? = null
println( test ?: "Welp" )
That would result in printing out Welp since test is null
prisma wave
extend Result<T> {
let ?: = (T other) => {
return if this is Some {
this.value
} else other
}
}```pretty sure this will work
regal gale
Anyway, I just used a kotlin converter tool in IntelliJ, and it showed me the solution. Between
var sbTeam: ScoreboardTeam? = null
private set```
and ```kotlin
private var sbTeam: ScoreboardTeam? = null```, which one's better?You forgot the arrow
prisma wave
Whoops
old wyvern
There we go
prisma wave
@regal gale they're different things
The first is public with a private setter, the second is totally private
regal gale
So it's acting like only getter in the other class?
old wyvern
I srsly hope kotlin separates them at some point
prisma wave
yes
old wyvern
Thie its basically a property implementation from other languages
regal gale
Ok thanks
old wyvern
Oh nvm he was using fields in both wasnt he
old wyvern
Yea thats really fucked up 😂
regal gale
"accept" -> {
if (tpr.state == TeleportState.NONE) break```
In this fragment of code, break is not allowed in a when statement. So what to use instead?probably nothing since it's an expression so every branch has to return a value
old wyvern
You could return unit if using it as a statement i think
ocean quartz
I'm sad, IJ doesn't like JavaFx so I'll have to use Swing
old wyvern
Rip
onyx loom
im with u matt
ocean quartz
Was so excited to use css and boom it didn't work
Now i need to have java in my project
onyx loom
😔
gonna try jfx one more time actually
last time it didnt work for me, hopefully my luck is better today
ocean quartz
If you're not doing intellij plugin use tornadofx
onyx loom
just been trying to get it working with no success 
bed time for me now so ill be back to pain tomorrow
silk kite
Huh, weird Mutual Friend 
Small world, I guess
proud kiln
Hi Im using deluxe tags but I would like the format to be [rank] [tag] [name] but I cant seem to get tag in the middle as its always either [tag] [rank] [name] or [rank] [name] [tag] format
I'm using Luck Perms
what do I do?
obtuse gale
vast ore
Basically it's not java ( it's lua )
script.Parent.BrickColor = BrickColor.new("Alder")
end)```
or
```script.Parent.ClickDetector.MouseClick:Connect(function(player)
if player.Name == "MyUsernameHere" then
script.Parent.BrickColor = BrickColor.new("Baby blue")
end
end)```
If anyone know then pls help meSomewhy it doesn't work
quiet depot
woo!
prisma wave
I saw that, seems pretty cool
quiet depot
yeah, was on the roadmap
although that's only a part of it
you should be able to generate indexes for any project
not sure if that's been implemented yet
but it'll help plebs like @hot hull
hot hull
@quiet depot Why you bully me
astral quiver
Kotlin Main Kts was only one problem, transtive dependencies
I need to go into the Maven ou Gradle from the project to get the dependencies
@ocean quartz if you want to use as well to retrieve all items renders
To your version of preview 😄
static zealot
yo I know EM told me how to use PDM a few days ago but I kinda left and forgot how to do it and can't find a message. I'm using kotlin and I get this error: https://paste.helpch.at/tidetetofa.cs and this is my onEnable(): https://paste.helpch.at/dasezudeho.cpp . I remember him saying something about the libraries not existing which is true becasue the folder did generate but the libraries are not inside. Btw this is my build.gradle: https://paste.helpch.at/ihigeyaboz.cs also I did not modify anything in settings.gradle and I compiled the jar using gradle build. Anyone can enlighten me? Ty 🙂
obtuse gale
I do it in one line but according to bm !! was also meant to fix it
I think the problem is that kotlin adds in a null check somewhere
static zealot
so just do this? PDMBuilder(this).build().loadAllDependencies() instead of the 2 lines ?
obtuse gale
"Loading dependencies".print()
PDMBuilder(this).build().loadAllDependencies().join()
"Loaded all dependencies".print()```Thats what I had
static zealot
ohh I forgot .join()
that's my bad
welp the libraries work now. time to see how much I messed up the code. I already have a 2 page error 😦
astral quiver
Remember to always use join
and and to the loadAllDependencies() be the first thing that your plugin does
ocean quartz
@astral quiver Oooh nice, thank you! ;p
heady birch
If only it was Swing 🙂
old wyvern
Did it work with gradle by any chance Kali?
tornado only seems to work with maven for me
ocean quartz
Yoo Kali, I just found something super cool for UI
onyx loom
hello
Did it work with gradle by any chance Kali?
@old wyvern yeah
i just installed the tornadofx IJ plugin for it to create a template for me, as i was stuck for like 4 hours trying to get it to work 🌝
onyx loom
using Swing.
🌝
ocean quartz
But swing is awful
heady birch
But swing is awful
Please indicate your statement was only to invoke humour
Swing + infonode + JIDE
onyx loom
looks cool tho matt
ocean quartz
No lol
Outdated technology, with way too many limitations
old wyvern
i just installed the tornadofx IJ plugin for it to create a template for me, as i was stuck for like 4 hours trying to get it to work 🌝
I have the plugin but it doesnt seem to work fine with gradle for me
🤷♂️
heady birch
Immature technology, with not enough restrictions
old wyvern
Every thing falls apart
onyx loom
are u using openjdk?
onyx loom
onyx loom
👀
ocean quartz
I wonder if i need to make a website for it to load or if i can create a local one and it'd load from file, but this is amazing already
Ooh you can read straight from a file 
prisma wave
@quiet depot made a reply to your Issue
dusky drum
wtf is open class in kotlin? and like object (not class)?
dusky drum
oke
dusky drum
kinda interesting
1 more question so i have hologram should i make runnable for each line and run that task repeating?
dusky drum
okay since atm i have 1 for all the holos.
heady birch
Holographic extension rip off 😦
dusky drum
?
i mean i have leaderboards in my plugin not the animations @heady birch
im making packet based holograms plugin atm?
heady birch
Im only kidding
dusky drum
update the info then :=?
ocean quartz
time to play around with ktor again 
dusky drum
interesting
ocean quartz
alias?
hot hull
Yes
ocean quartz
Working on it, the rewrite's abstraction is almost done
hot hull
grand hedge
@frail glade The latest post in #750658588766371953 is a troll.
hot hull
I got rick rolled
hot hull
I even told the dude to use a valid budget smh
jovial warren
frail glade
jovial warren
the funny thing is, is that actually works lol
@ocean quartz how did you pull that off?
ocean quartz
Magic
jovial warren
nah man I wanna know lol
ocean quartz
hot hull
Lots of magic
jovial warren
oh wow you cheat
ocean quartz
I cheat?
jovial warren
actually that's your project nvm lol
ocean quartz
lol
dusky drum
oh and @heady birch im gonna make my packet based hologram plugin realy easy to move from HD api to mine so you'll easily make your HoloExtension compatible muahaha
heady birch
ok
jovial warren
now to find out how this thing works by digging through source code lol
hot hull
Nah, OnlyFans in MC
dusky drum
wat=?
old wyvern
Discraft
jovial warren
lol
dusky drum
CraftCord
ocean quartz
Ez Yugi
onyx loom
hand reveal 👀
old wyvern
Ok bois time to move to Discraft
heady birch
@dusky drum What you gonna name it?
dusky drum
no idea XD
heady birch
I might have to make my own 😼
heady birch
Lol. I'll probably contribute to yours at some point
dusky drum
a bit of a improvement:
http://images.virtusdevelops.eu/shareX/lrnx5d93.png
ocean quartz
Not that hard to do it, though the project is kinda paused i lost my way into it when people started contributing good changes xD
dusky drum
but i have no friking idea whats happening here
http://images.virtusdevelops.eu/shareX/livz6hc6.png
old wyvern
😂
jovial warren
142 ms
dusky drum
yes
jovial warren
what are you doing lol
heady birch
expand it
dusky drum
it only happens first time
heady birch
or go to hotspots and filter
dusky drum
thats akari
you cant expand this
i kinda think it constructs classes for first time.
i just do this
jovial warren
VisualVM
jovial warren
for loop
jovial warren
okay those for loops might be your issue
hot hull
Not really tho, unless you're looping through thousands
jovial warren
^ true
jovial warren
what else are you doing?
dusky drum
it only happens for first player
hot hull
How are you storing them btw?
jovial warren
^
hot hull
A map or a list?
dusky drum
mutablelist
hot hull
Cause like, map go brrr
jovial warren
have you tried using sequences?
dusky drum
whats sequence?
jovial warren
sequences are basically Kotlin's replacement for streams
dusky drum
how does it look?
jovial warren
they're supposed to be really fast but idk whether they make much difference
how does it look?
wdym?
dusky drum
how do i use it never used it.
jovial warren
asSequence to convert to a Sequence
jovial warren
then forEach to iterate?
dusky drum
holograms.asSequence().forEach
jovial warren
yeah sounds about right
jovial warren
yeah
dusky drum
oka gonna see
jovial warren
idk, might improve performance, not sure how much of a difference sequences make
ocean quartz
Do something like this
println(
"Time - ${
measureTimeMillis {
// put your register method here
}
}ms"
)
To see how long it takes for your register to run
jovial warren
yeah that will work
ocean quartz
It's literally just debugging no point in using logger
dusky drum
ocean quartz
Why?
Logger - Plugin messages
Println - Debug
This way you can get rid of debugging pretty easy when it's ready
jovial warren
logger.debug > for debug stuff
dusky drum
true
jovial warren
if logger.debug even exists in Bukkit logging
ocean quartz
Literally just search in path for println and delete everything
No point in overcomplicating it
jovial warren
it exists in java.util.logging and SLF4J
hot hull
bruh I just killed a big ass fly and it was everywhere
hot hull
Like the fucker legit exploded
dusky drum
yeh apparently first time it does it, it uses friking 150ms
next time it uses 1ms
wtf
ocean quartz
That's kinda normal, first time it runs it caches stuff
jovial warren
^ and that
jovial warren
wait so register calls register?
jovial warren
okay so it's putting in to a map, which has to be instantiated if it isn't, and then creates the hologram and puts that in to the map
jovial warren
yeah sorry I think that's what I was on about lol
jovial warren
and this is why we don't use Java
dusky drum
no
thats in kotlin
wait
nvm
its cause i remove user from map that is constatly being run thru foreach
for loop i mean
jovial warren
I was gonna say
it's either in Java or you're doing some horky borkyness by trying to access something within an init block which is defined underneath the init block
(very specific ik)
jovial warren
yes
dusky drum
should i clone viewers on each loop?
heady birch
And anything static
obtuse gale
Iterators
heady birch
static {} blocks
obtuse gale
And signal queues or something
jovial warren
anything static can be put in your companion object
and if it's required to be static, use @JvmStatic
heady birch
Yeah but Im saying when you first use that static it will be initialized. incase you have anything heavy happening in static blocks e.g
dusky drum
oh
jovial warren
you should rewrite your stuff in Kotlin Niall
dusky drum
so i should probably use iterator?
heady birch
No
jovial warren
or are you one of those nuts who thinks Java is better
heady birch
No
But things I've written in java work fine for now. But i have more java experience and it would take a great deal of time to upgrade years old code to kotlin
jovial warren
true
old wyvern
Also, Nothin wrong with Java 🤷♂️
jovial warren
I mean, it wouldn't take you as long as you think due to Ctrl+Alt+Shift+K
prisma wave
muh idioms
jovial warren
@old wyvern I didn't say anything's wrong with it lol
old wyvern
or are you one of those nuts who thinks Java is better
Sounded like it
Anyway
Ctrl+Alt+Shift+KIs not a great way to convert
jovial warren
yeah ik
prisma wave
i d i o m a t i c
prisma wave
many java design patterns are not idiomatic to kotlin
old wyvern
^
prisma wave
ctrl alt shift k will not account for that
jovial warren
like getters and setters
old wyvern
And the shortcut litrally converts it
prisma wave
it can convert getters & setters
jovial warren
even ones that aren't fields like in interfaces?
old wyvern
There is no point to direct conversion of something to kotlin with that shortcut except it adds the 1.5ish MB to your Jar
prisma wave
btw converting to elara will actually reduce the jar size
old wyvern
^
jovial warren
will it?
prisma wave
yes
heady birch
Yeah cos there's no jar 🤦♂️
prisma wave
by an average of 3.4mb
jovial warren
also why is JDK included in Kotlin code?
prisma wave
?
jovial warren
(if you don't use Java thingys)
prisma wave
because you're targetting the jvm?
jovial warren
and also why is JDK not one of those things that's provided by runtime
jovial warren
then why do you shade it
prisma wave
you don't
old wyvern
You shade the kotlin stdlib
prisma wave
^
frigid badge
not the jdk
jovial warren
yeah true
dusky drum
XD
prisma wave
the jdk is provided by the user's JRE
old wyvern
It has extensions for standard java stuff
jovial warren
why does Kotlin runtime not provide Kotlin stdlib then?
old wyvern
Because there is nothing or that sorts
prisma wave
because that would be annoying
frigid badge
because there’s no such thing as kotlin runtime
prisma wave
Kotlin runtime isn't a thing
jovial warren
yeah true
prisma wave
it's the java runtime
frigid badge
it’s the java runtime
old wyvern
Kotlin uses library of whatever it compiles to
prisma wave
and unless you want people to have to install something else
you can't have the stdlib provided at runtime
frigid badge
smh bm we talking the same stuff
prisma wave
¯_(ツ)_/¯
dusky drum
yay now i kinda broke stuff....
prisma wave
i won't let you steal my potential xp lmao
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lmao
old wyvern
or Elara 
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says the guy who knows jackshit about it
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unless you’ve been learning a lot lately, you’re still figuring out what traits are
old wyvern
tbh Go's interface typing is kinda like our contract generics xD
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or you finish the pr smh
heady birch
I have ironically paused the project I was working on but got round to using Mutexs and guards and lifetimes and stuff
impl Annoying for Lemmo
lmao
heady birch
Have any of you seen Primer CSS? Githubs css, It actually looks very nice
prisma wave
@old wyvern yeah they are lol
old wyvern
lol
prisma wave
why use rust when you could use insert language here
old wyvern
burn
prisma wave
no
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oh jeez
dusky drum
i kinda found a problem using iterators.
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what is it
jovial warren
"98.css" oh no
prisma wave
lol
dusky drum
i mean am i doing it right
http://images.virtusdevelops.eu/shareX/6wo1kcll.png
prisma wave
absolutely nothing
dusky drum
hehe so am i doing it correctly?
heady birch
I havnt read it yet
dusky drum
oke
heady birch
But it looks like big lag
dusky drum
lag?
jovial warren
arrow code
dusky drum
?
astral quiver
About migrating Java code to Kotlin, this wrong
dusky drum
i did try to migrate it but it didnt work
astral quiver
One of the most importants features of Kotlin is Interopbillity
jovial warren
dusky drum
what thats how we do it
hot hull
ew
dusky drum
its easier to read.
astral quiver
You should not migrate your previvous code, you should create API for better usage in Kotlin
astral quiver
KotlinBukkitAPI is basically that, I do not create a new Bukkit in Kotlin
dusky drum
why da fuk wouldnt you use indents?
astral quiver
I just create a set of better APIs for Kotlin
jovial warren
you think arrow code is better than no arrow code? what?
dusky drum
yes
hot hull
?plsnoarrowcode
compact perchBOT
FAQ Answer:
jovial warren
arrow code is an anti-pattern
jovial warren
oh my god
dusky drum
i wont fucking use
if ()
{
}
jovial warren
that's not what I'm suggesting
dusky drum
thats what page says
heady birch
No he means the amount of times you nest if's. Early returns e.g = better
astral quiver
I do not like
if()
{
}
as well
is not the Kotlin or Java convention
C# and C++, yes, but not Java
jovial warren
arrow code refers to when your code looks like this: ```kotlin
if (a) {
if (b) {
if (c) {
if (d) {
}
}
}
}
i mean
jovial warren
yeah allman is the worst style ever created in the history of bad programming styles
okay maybe not that bad
but K&R better
jovial warren
allman is actually against Kotlin conventions
dusky drum
i cant make 1 big if statement
astral quiver
Take that back!
dusky drum
no
jovial warren
not what I'm suggesting
astral quiver
Kotlin conventions is ❤️
dusky drum
i friking broke my plugin somehow
jovial warren
there is always, and that's so important let me say it again: ALWAYS a way to fix arrow code
astral quiver
Extracting code to a function for example
is a good way to prevent arrow code
I should be done
jovial warren
iterators can also fix arrow code issues in some cases
astral quiver
Uncle Bobs says that A function should have 3 lines
dusky drum
i have no idea how i broke my code.
astral quiver
(I don't agree, but, he was a point)
jovial warren
Uncle Bobs says that A function should have 3 lines
the three other functions it calls?
jovial warren
I'd just abuse the fact that Kotlin allows you to use ; to separate statements on the same line and just write a shit ton of code on 1 line
because I big brain
astral quiver
lol
jovial warren
but I'm used to writing things on a single line anyway
I'm one of those who completely abuses expression functions to stop me having to specify the type explicitly
astral quiver
So folks, I need to work, sad, but I need :c
jovial warren
want an example of "it looks shit, but hey, it works"?
astral quiver
I really don't have any example in mind
jovial warren
/**
* Converts an enum value name to it's common name
*
* e.g. "AREA_EFFECT_CLOUD" becomes "Area Effect Cloud"
*/
override fun toString() = name.replace("_", " ")
.split(" ")
.joinToString(" ") { string ->
var foundFirst = false
string.map {
if (it == string.first() && !foundFirst) {
foundFirst = true
it
} else it.toLowerCase()
}.joinToString("")
}
I wrote that yesterday
does exactly what it says in the title lol
it mixes imperative and declarative programming, completely abuses expression functions, takes a few minutes to understand what it does, overall I give it about a 3/10 readability
and it's performance probably isn't great either, but as I said, it works lol
prisma wave
allman is actually against Kotlin conventions
@jovial warren it is in Java too... Doesn't make it bad
jovial warren
it's bad enough to be against convention
prisma wave
Bruh that entire function probably breaks at least 10 conventions
ocean quartz
Convention isn't always great, following conventions blindly is even worse imo
jovial warren
not saying I follow convention either
prisma wave
You can't complain about a brace style when you're writing stuff like that
jovial warren
I spend time making my code contain the least amount of content possible
astral quiver
convention is great, be cause make all codes the same, helping new developers to join any company without need to learn a new convenction
jovial warren
basically I spend time making my code unreadable
astral quiver
Like, using k for constants and m for member properties
I do not like that, but this was when I do not have IDEs like IntelliJ
With time, your brain do not read the k or m, just know that this property is a constant or member of the class
this is why conventions exists in my opnion
is much easier to learn how to read the code when you continue to read the same code format
jovial warren
wdym k and m?
astral quiver
kFactor = 50 = "konstant"
astral quiver
I agreed with you,
jovial warren
I believe that's probably one of the main conventions I follow: naming
jovial warren
though doesn't the standard entail that I is supposed to prefix interfaces and Abstract supposed to prefix abstract classes?
astral quiver
You can now if is a member or not by the color that the IDE shows
prisma wave
@jovial warren there's no convention for that
jovial warren
ah it's just something that people do
astral quiver
Yes
jovial warren
I really don't know whether that's a good idea or not
astral quiver
Yes, is a BAD PRACTICE that people do
prisma wave
dumb
astral quiver
why? don't know
prisma wave
adding I conveys nothing
jovial warren
is it bad practice to prefix interfaces with I and abstract classes with Abstract and so on?
old wyvern
The proper way to name interfaces would be something like <Something>able ...ect...
old wyvern
Not sure what you call it in english grammer
jovial warren
The proper way to name interfaces would be something like <Something>able ...ect...
not exactly, interfaces aren't always there just to represent capabilities
astral quiver
It is, you should have something like Name = NameImpl
jovial warren
yeah
old wyvern
I thought you were talking about the convention
old wyvern
The "convention" is to use interfaces for that exact purpose
The issue is all use cases wont obviously fall under that
obtuse gale
Is there a hover over Create class for this.
astral quiver
I guess we are talking about code conventions
jovial warren
okay apparently you should not use Util in class names, even though literally everyone does for their utility classes lol
ocean quartz
Progress
dusky drum
howly animated?
astral quiver
👀
obtuse gale
for getCommand("test").setExecutor(new testCommand()); In Intellij. Is there a way to hover over and press Create class (name) Just like in Eclipse
old wyvern
okay apparently you should not use
Utilin class names, even though literally everyone does for their utility classes lol
Util makes no sense in Kotlin
jovial warren
Not in kotlin
true, but say for example you were for whatever reason using a util class in Kotlin, you'd be left to that
astral quiver
I'm not liking this!!!!
astral quiver
😭
dusky drum
@ocean quartz have you like seen trMenu?
old wyvern
Util pattern exists in Java because all functions must be in a class in Java
That is not the case in kotlin
obtuse gale
Thanks
ocean quartz
@dusky drum What is that?
dusky drum
astral quiver
I'm sad
jovial warren
er...
ocean quartz
Don't be sad!
old wyvern
Yes
dusky drum
its kinda animated Matt :3
old wyvern
Im pretty sure I told you that when you were working on Punishments last time
jovial warren
literally nobody follows that convention then
prisma wave
Speak for yourself again
old wyvern
The extensions should be in the Client file
jovial warren
or maybe it's just me who doesn't lol
prisma wave
Also I think that's for classes that you've made
ocean quartz
@dusky drum Oh, this is different though
jovial warren
the extensions should be in the file where they're used or what?
old wyvern
the extensions should be in the file where they're used or what?
@jovial warren
Yes
ocean quartz
@astral quiver Mine is only gonna be for my lib so dw, yours is still better ;p
jovial warren
what about if you use them in say 10 different places?
prisma wave
It makes no difference?
dusky drum
Oh, this is different though
i can see that you actually change like size of inv thats kinda noice :3
old wyvern
mhm
ocean quartz
Though this is a website not in game
ocean quartz
It is, but.. also website
jovial warren
what's the convention for the factory pattern?
ocean quartz
astral quiver
oh now
jovial warren
a function with the same name as the class seems to come up a lot
ocean quartz
It's great!
astral quiver
I'm really sad right now
ocean quartz
I'll have the backend in ktor and the plugin to read from it
astral quiver
I could use React or something :c
prisma wave
what's the convention for the factory pattern?
@jovial warren in regards to what?
obtuse gale
Is there a Build Artifacts shortcut
astral quiver
So, this is not being render locally ? @ocean quartz
you are sending to a backend ?
jovial warren
@obtuse gale I believe you can make one
ocean quartz
@astral quiver I could make it render locally, but thought it be easier to be done with a backend
jovial warren
or there might actually already be one idk
astral quiver
Yes :S
obtuse gale
uhhh
ocean quartz
Using ktor to make that i legit only needed this
<div class="inventory">
<#list 0..rows as i>
<#if i == 0>
<div class="top inventory-part">Test</div>
<#elseif i == rows>
<div class="bottom inventory-part"></div>
<#else>
<div class="row inventory-part"></div>
</#if>
</#list>
</div>
how
heady birch
What template engine is that?
obtuse gale
How do you make a shortcut @jovial warren
astral quiver
What template is it?
jovial warren
go to keymap in settings
astral quiver
html template, I mean
heady birch
Not exactly thymeleaf
jovial warren
thymeleaf?
ocean quartz
@astral quiver Freemarker
ocean quartz
Why such a hater Niall xD
jovial warren
I was just about to say "since when did thymeleaf generate templates" before I googled thymeleaf and it said:
jovial warren
wat
dusky drum
i don't remember getting any anwser (i applied for developer role #role-request )
heady birch
How is the IChatBaseComponent serializing? That was a big hotspot for me (Only due to using it excessively)
jovial warren
how do you serialize IChatBaseComponent often enough to worry about performance lol
heady birch
kiteboard animations
jovial warren
ah okay
heady birch
probably makes hundreds of them a second
jovial warren
is that done in adapters?
dusky drum
?
heady birch
yeah
jovial warren
ah the one that handles hex stuff yeah
the one that you said is "pretty unique to KiteBoard" xD
heady birch
Yeah
jovial warren
is it really all that unique though?
it just processes &#FF0000 in to an NMS hex colour
ocean quartz
It's not that simple
jovial warren
I mean I'm not complaining I'm just curious
actually, the way Niall does it, is pretty simple tbh
well, the way Niall processes it
astral quiver
I could not put color in mine yet
You are thing in add hover as well?
#DoNotKillMyProject :c
Item Hover
ocean quartz
Sounds complicated, but maybe xD
astral quiver
Yes, I do not do that because the user can put alot of different stuffs in the Item
with differents APIs
and for support it with PSI is really hard
maybe impossible
ocean quartz
This is how it looks on IJ now, JCEF is amazing
hot hull
That main class name tho, sheesh
static zealot
wait is that a photo or is that a live preview?
ocean quartz
I mean, it's an application, ofc it'll be called Main
astral quiver
Live preview
ocean quartz
^
static zealot
oh that's cool
hot hull
Yea IK, but still, it hurts
jovial warren
unless that's a different language lol
astral quiver
jovial warren
actually yes it's portugese
astral quiver
I let my portuguese there? offuck